/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3597223]

What's your favorite retro fighting game?
Mine's Eternal Champion.

[Anonymous No.3597229]

DBZ Super Butoden 2.

I still play it from time to time with a friend who also knows how to play fairly well, this game is seriously fun as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3597239]

I'm calling troll thread.

OP cannot be serious.

[Anonymous No.3597247]

>>3597239

I don't like Eternal Champions but I think it's cool if some people like it, probably they can find some enjoyment out of it that I can't and that's nice.
I like to see people being fan of fighting games that aren't the usual capcom and snk arcade hits.

[Anonymous No.3597279]

>>3597229
>>3597229
I prefer Hyper Dimension over at Butoden any time. I just never got into any of them because of the god awful music.

[Anonymous No.3597284]

>>3597239

Perhaps you missed the part in the OP where they said FAVORITE retro fighting game, not best.
This is not /v/, where everyone is browbeat into one unilateral opinion.

Wish I had a clear choic, OP. But quite honestly, I enjoy each and every fighting game for what it tries(and in a lot of cases, fails) to do.

[Anonymous No.3597285]

>>3597279

Hyper Dimension is pretty good too, but it's more traditional. Butoden series has its own style that can't really be compared to any other fighting game, I like it because of that originality and because it's really fun once you get the hang of it.
Butoden 1 isn't too good, but Super Butoden 2 nailed the gameplay. You played second game, right?

>godawful music

First time I see someone say Butoden games have bad music.

[Anonymous No.3597295]

Garou for sure. I love the music (stolen or not). I also like the versitality of the combo system

[Anonymous No.3597323]

>>3597223
KoF'98 and Super Street Fighter II Turbo. The former is SNK most refined fighter, and the showcase of all the best KoF has to offer. The latter is the blueprint of fighting games, the game that took SF to a new level of depth and made it more balanced than ever before.

[Anonymous No.3597334]

Samurai showdown

[Anonymous No.3597340]

KoF 98, easily.

[Anonymous No.3597361]

>>3597223
EC is a cool game. Still play it from time to time, love the dithering going on in it. My favorite fighter is a close tie between MK 1&2

[Anonymous No.3597380]

>>3597239
Why? EC isn't amazing or anything but it's not super terrible either and does some things that make it pretty unique. Did you just look up some "Top ten worst MK knock offs" list or something and see it there? Cause if you played it you'd know it's not bad.

[Anonymous No.3597572]

>>3597223

[Anonymous No.3597586]

>>3597380
My biggest complaint with EC is the AI. It's pretty brutal to downright almost cheating at times.

[Anonymous No.3597636]

Darkstalkers 3/Vampire Savior. I suck at it, though.

[Anonymous No.3597647]

>>3597223
Is there anyone in this world who didn't main Larcen? Everyone I talk to who knows about this game mained Larcen.
I also mained Larcen

[Anonymous No.3597663]

>>3597647
I main Xavier the Warlock

[Anonymous No.3597684]

>>3597647
I used Xavier, Trident, and Slash mostly.

Trident for his 40% damage trident spin move, his powerful kick attacks, and that phasing move.

Xavier because I could pull off the easiest stun combos with him (his LP move) plus he had a freeze move similar to Sub-Zero, as well as the ability to summon a snake to do something like 20% damage. Oh, and they were all charge moves, meaning they were easy to pull off (the game had some retarded special move motions, like press B and X together and so).

And Slash because if you jumped back and pressed HP, he changed directions mid-jump; and the AI always ate this attack. But more importantly he could ALWAYS pull off his MP throw, even when he had no inner strength meter (it was considered a "special" move, drained meter, but always worked even if you had none).
The jump-back-HP trick is how I managed to beat the Eternal Champion.

[Anonymous No.3598357]

>>3597647
Used often:
Rax, Larcen, Shadow, Xavier

Used moderately:
Blade, Slash, Trident

Could not get the hang of:
Jetta, Midknight

[Anonymous No.3598392]

I really like ClayFighters 63 1/3

[Anonymous No.3598401]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafjtfJgDLQ

[Anonymous No.3598405]

>>3597223
JoJo's Venture CPS3.

I still think this is maybe the most gorgeous-looking game I've ever seen, and I have no idea why it doesn't get as much love as Street Fighter or Darkstalkers.

[Anonymous No.3598423]

>>3598405
>I have no idea why it doesn't get as much love as Street Fighter or Darkstalkers
It's a CPS3 game. That's it.

Just like Street Fighter III didn't used to get as much love, and the reason why even now not that many people talk about Red Earth/Warzard, CPS3 games just don't get a lot of love as they're on a more obscure arcade board. You also don't hear a lot of SNK fans talking about Buriki One and Sam Sho 64, despite them being incredible games, or SEGA fans talking about Model 3 games like SpikeOut. They just aren't known as well, and most people don't bother to expand their knowledge for some reason.


As a game, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is great, and very unique, but a bit more difficult to get into than most other Capcom fighters. What's more, the fact that it's based on an existing property is probably a bit off-putting to some, as you need context to fully appreciate the characters, or understand some of the wackier parts of the game (the N' Doul desert battle, characters being named after bands and artists, etc).

[Anonymous No.3598435]

>>3598405
This game was for Dreamcast wasnt it.
It had a guy who could stop time in it, that was OP as fuck

[Anonymous No.3598436]

>>3598423
>SpikeOut

Holy fuck thank you for reminding me of that. That never got ported, did it?

[Anonymous No.3598440]

>>3598435
CPS3 arcade, PSX and Dreamcast. Dreamcast version is supposedly the better port.

[Anonymous No.3598447]

>>3598440
I've heard the DC version is practically arcade-perfect, but lacks the Super Story Mode from the PS1 version. I've only played the PS1 release, so I dunno.

[Anonymous No.3598457]

>>3597647
I mained Riptide.

From the CD sequel, barely played the original EC.

[Anonymous No.3598461]

>>3598436
>That never got ported, did it?
Nope. A damn, damn shame too, but it's now emulated extremely well by Supermodel, so it's not as big a deal anymore.

I always found it kinda strange how few people know about SpikeOut, considering it essentially is Streets of Rage 4, but then again I only know about it because I got to play it in the arcades, along with other obscure games like Fighting Layer, which luckily eventually did get the recognition it deserved.

[Anonymous No.3598476]

I'm very convinced that this one fighting game existed that I havent been able to find anywhere. People keep saying it's these other games, but no, I fucking remember playing this shit at a laundramat.

One character I remember is this guy who held a cigar in his mouth and had a large gun. I think he wore shades, too. Another was this ninja character with a handgun. It was so bizarre but it had that MK feel to it.

[Anonymous No.3598481]

>>3598476
Survival Arts?

[Anonymous No.3598503]

>>3598476
Shadow: War of Succession?

[Anonymous No.3598507]

>>3597223
I preferred the gamebooks.

[Anonymous No.3598514]

>>3598503
This is the noisiest piece of shit ever.

[Anonymous No.3598698]

>>3598435
i dont know about venture, but in bizzare adventure there's about 3 characters who can counter time stop with their own time stop. It's also easy to stop it if you are near them, so it's not all overpowered.

[Anonymous No.3598707]

Flying dragon is by far my favorite retro fighter

[Anonymous No.3598901]

>>3597572
This. Hands down. Very preferably arcade version.

[Anonymous No.3598928]

>>3597323
This. Only two legit choices, really.

But props to the weirder stuff you don't see so often mentioned ITT.

[Anonymous No.3599195]

>>3598901
Arcade is superior indeed, but the SNES version is still pretty good. Having a training mode makes it better for players that are just getting into it.

[Anonymous No.3599214]

This is the only game you fags played when you were kids.

[Anonymous No.3599221]

>>3597636
This is it right here
But that is too obvious.
I love me some Gundam Wing Endless Duel

[Anonymous No.3599230]

For a game that's just fun as fuck, Tech Romancer/Kikaioh. I'm a huge /m/ fag so this game is like a wet dream.

For a more traditional, competitive game, Third Strike. Yeah, kinda boring choice, but I play it on Saturday nights with a bunch of people at a nearby arcade, and it's always great.

[Anonymous No.3599238]

>>3599230

Ever tried Super Robot Spirits?

[Anonymous No.3599247]

>>3599238
Tried to, but it doesn't emulate well, and I don't have an N64.

The idea is cool though. I love the concept of SRW but I'm too impatient for it.

[Anonymous No.3599279]

>>3599238
This game is very weird. It´s a like a solid 6 or 5 i dunno, the final boss is cool.

[Anonymous No.3599434]

>>3597586
so just like every other fighting game then? SNK games are notorious for this shit and pretty much every fighter uses input reading to feign artificial intelligence

[Anonymous No.3600896]

>>3599214
To this day I have never played a Street Fighter game - but I have played SNK, JoJo's CPS3, Capcom's Marvel games, Tekken 1-3, Virtua Fighter, Bloody Roar, whichever Soul Caliber was on the Dreamcast, Power Stone, Battle Arena Toshinden and Tobal.

What am I missing out on and which version should I start with?

[Anonymous No.3600903]

>>3598461
SpikeOut was ten years ahead of its time. I remember reading in an arcade mag how it had this revolutionary system that would chain cabinets together so an arcade could run something ridiculous like 8v8 fights, and the aim was eventually to have them online so you could fight people in arcades around the world.

It needs to be remastered and released with online multiplayer, ASAP.

[Anonymous No.3600947]

>>3600896
Start with the first one (MAME version) and then go with release order.

[Anonymous No.3600953]

>>3600903
>SpikeOut was ten years ahead of its time. I remember reading in an arcade mag how it had this revolutionary system that would chain cabinets together so an arcade could run something ridiculous like 8v8 fights, and the aim was eventually to have them online so you could fight people in arcades around the world.

You might also be thinking of Spikers Battle there, which was a sort of sort of semi-sequel which played like an arena fighting game, with a player fighting in an enclosed arena, in a four-way match, though using the beat-em-up engine from SpikeOut, and it was released on NAOMI. Supposedly, Sega were going to skim over releasing a port of SpikeOut and would instead port Battle to the Dreamcast, although that never happened.

There was also a sort of spin off on NAOMI called SlashOut, which was SpikeOut but with a more fantastic, anime-esque setting. It's okay, but pails in comparison to the surprising complexity of SpikeOut's battle system.

You've reminded me why they probably decided not to port SpikeOut though. Cabinets were linked up, and that was how multiplayer worked. Considering much of the able of beat-em-ups to casual fans of the genre is the ability to play 2-player, I suspect they didn't want to port it or potentially risk alienating their audience, although that's just a theory. You could have had console link-up of course, but the appeal of an beat-em-up to most is the ability to sit down and play it with friends.

That's the thing though, as you brought up, SEGA always had this tendency to make games which were years ahead of their time, and it bit them in the ass continuously. You had to wait 10 years for an arcade perfect port of OutRun on the Sega Saturn, not to mention all those amazing Model 2 and Model 3 games which were either downgraded graphically when ported or never ported at all.

[Anonymous No.3601041]

>>3598707
This guy is my nigga right here. The chibi version where it had RPG elements was pretty fun. I also liked Fighters destiny as well.

I think pretty much no one will agree with me on this but I think Ehrgeiz had a surprising amount of depth in the fighting game, as fan friendly as it looked with having Cloud and Tifa being playable characters, the game was pretty complex and rewarded good players who understood the mechanics.

I wish more fighters had a decent "tourney mode" of sorts comparable to VF4evo's did, where you played in various fictional arcades to prove your worth until you got good and became a legend. I miss that shit

[Anonymous No.3601340]

>>3597223
>having taste this good

[Anonymous No.3601446]

>>3600896
Street Fighter Alpha 3

[Anonymous No.3602420]

>>3598461
>>3598436
SpikeOut wasn't ported, but it got a non-retro sequel for Xbox. Why, I still don't know.
The first Xbox had some unexpected exclusives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE-7Epc6sUo

[Anonymous No.3602428]

>>3602420
I do remember reading about that years ago. Sega actually had very good ties with Microsoft (mainly because of being allowed to use Windows CE on the dreamcast), and so they effectively wanted the Xbox to be the successor to the Dreamcast, hence titles like that, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crazy Taxi 3, House of the Dead 3, etc.

In fact, they were initially in discussions with microsoft to make the Xbox also able to play Dreamcast games, although that eventually fell through for whatever reason.

As for Battle Street, it mostly seems to be a decent remake for SpikeOut, albeit it with significantly less appealing visuals. One thing I hate about Gen 6 is that the PS2 and Xbox kinda purposefully killed bright, colourful visuals.

[Anonymous No.3602432]

Probably the only one who loves the shit out of Time Killers.

[Anonymous No.3602530]

>>3597223
This game has some brutal finishing moves.
>The lady who comes out of the ticket booth and just rapes you with a tommy gun

[Anonymous No.3602597]

>>3602530
Actually, she shoots them twice with a pistol, then blows their head off with a shotgun. The guy in the car is the one with the tommy.

[Anonymous No.3602649]

>>3598405
because it's a meme game
pic related

ZA WARUDO

[Anonymous No.3602791]

Why so many western fightans had time-travel/time travellers?
Time Killers, Time Slaughter, Eternal Champions, Savage Warriors, and all have a caveman with a dumb name like Ug, Thugg and Slash.

[Anonymous No.3602810]

>>3598405
>why it doesn't get as much love
The amount of mashing it needs, for one. The limited availability for two. Darkstalkers has been on a shit ton of platforms and has had crossovers for days. Arcade jojo on the other hand did not have that vast amount of exposure.

[Anonymous No.3602826]

KOF '97, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Psychic Force 2 and Real Bout Fatal Fury

[Anonymous No.3602829]

>>3597223
prolly vampire savior

[Anonymous No.3602905]

[Anonymous No.3602906]

>>3602432
EXCALIBAAR EXCALIBAAR EX EXCALIBAAR

[Anonymous No.3603048]

I loved playing this at the arcade. Could play for hours with 1 token

[Anonymous No.3603236]

>>3603203
They look like generic nineties comics characters, like the Image ones.

[Anonymous No.3603203]

>>3597647
Say what you will about this game, but those character designs were the shit. Still are, mostly.

The Sega CD version even had 4 extra characters.

[Anonymous No.3603218]

>>3603203
>The Sega CD version even had 4 extra characters.

Oh it had a lot more than just 4.

[Anonymous No.3603314]

>>3597223
ultimate mortal kombat 3

[Anonymous No.3603906]

Me and a friend get together to play some Power Instinct on the SNES every now and then. I love the series' satirical approach to the genre. Despite the latter installments having better mechanics, the first one is the best rendition of a parody fighting game.