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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3588175

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like ladies and gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct (embed)

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png (embed)
Doom download: https://yadi.
sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1476/78/1476783249877.png (embed)
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw (embed)
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg (embed)
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg (embed)

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0 (embed)

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS (embed)
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K (embed)

>> No.3593197

=== NEWS ===

[10-30] Doom4Doom 2.0 released - a gameplay mod that brings the Doom 2016 weapons into the classic Doom maps
http://www.moddb.com/mods/d4d-doom4-for-doom/downloads/d4d-v20

[10-30] Brutal Doom 64 released - merging Doom 64 and Brutal Doom (sort of)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64

[10-30] Wolfendoom - Blade of Agony trailer, first chapter coming November 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cyO9iq-tjA

[10-28] Ghosted 2, a mod for Doom that's like that Slenderman game where you look for pages while he tries to get you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_ogrQyISM [Embed]

[10-24]
Green Arrow, a new Wolf3D mod based on the Arrow comics and television show
http://www.moddb.com/mods/green-arrow/downloads

[10-22] The Dreamwell Enigma: Barlington Estate - map for Blood
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61367

[10-22] Dracula's Castle, halloween map for Duke 3D
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8996-rel-draculas-castle/

[10-22] https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/58h59q/announcement_ask_me_anything_with_id_software/

[10-16] ZScript to replace DECORATE at some future point
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=946680#p946680

[10-15] Zip of Duke3D files needed for EDuke32 plus addons
https://mega.nz/#!PMNmSa4Z!Wf02HdeRo2FPLBrwMrLzukrNxcom0IMLs-2e8bdaoAs

[10-15] PortaDOOM alpha 1 >>3561827
https://mega.nz/#!jtphlA4b!WoCJ1hUuZJi9ZZ17D7UJ1XJ8-D7X65Fk40pnp69-f8Y

[10-14] Johnnydoom (aka BDJ) updated to v20b
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47229

[10-13] Spooky fonts from Pinball Of The Dead
https://mega.nz/#!J4UyAY6I!2xa3LhzgpXN73iUbsD2onOhq0gyaoxCfORB1XAj1Ghc
https://mega.nz/#!Q4NV2TBD!hJcuIxRJYEK7yHAG9vqW0GermpKsAGsTwx3ilp2HP2g

[10-13] DUMP 3 released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sc9seej72ikajky/DUMP-3.pk3?dl=1

[10-12] Trailblazer v1.4 released
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47494
https://www.mediafire.com/?f9qegp1j4749wi6

===

To submit news, reply/backlink to this post.

>> No.3593202

First for Spooktober.
Where all the white skeletons at?

>> No.3593205

Revenant added to the spooky CSS when

>> No.3593206

Is it possible for someone to upload new D4D to mediafire? I can't download it from moddb.

>> No.3593209

Shitty Doom 4 OP on all hallow's eve instead of something holiday related...

>> No.3593213
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3593213

>>3593209
this

should of at least been a revenant

>> No.3593219

>>3593192
Is that bad?

>>3593206
Too bad. No mediafire. Here is a mixtape.moe link tho https://my.mixtape.moe/ziagjc.zip

>> No.3593224

SPOOKY THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13TOx7MviGc

>> No.3593235

>>3593224
nevermind that's the shit version

REAL SPOOKY THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBO6KX9qTA

>> No.3593236

>>3593219
Thanks, anon.

>> No.3593240

and for the first time in /Doom/'s existence, a brutal doom mod gets in the news section

no, BDJohnny and PB don't count, they're variants.

>> No.3593242
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3593242

So, what you lads have planned for this spooktacular holiday?

>> No.3593246

>>3593240
nope

>> No.3593248

>>3593240

Have you...never looked at the news post before?
Brutal releases have always been put in there.

>> No.3593252
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3593252

>>3593242
Gonna play Blood of course.

>> No.3593254

>>3593248

I've been here since we moved from /v/ to /vg/ and then here on March 18, 2014

I'm pretty sure the OPs have skipped including BD in the news section until now (and for good measure)

Not that it matters, mind you, I just simply wanted to point it out

>> No.3593256

>>3593254
>I'm pretty sure the OPs have skipped including BD in the news section until now

You are incorrect.

>> No.3593258

>>3593254
as someone who personally wrote the news posts for a while, this is wrong

>> No.3593260

>>3593242
Played Ghosted 2 for a while and next a map in Dark Doom.
I love Halloween.

>> No.3593262

So now what's gonna stop Kaiser from including DOOM64.wad with D64EX now that everyone's fine and dandy with Mark flat-out including assets from the game in BD64?

And let's not pretend otherwise, nobody who has ever played D64EX actually owns a N64 cart dumper

>> No.3593264

>the doomiwads url just gives me a 403
anyone know the when the next shortbus heads out to the iwads?

>> No.3593265

Is GZDoom ever going to have going to have death events or shit that lets mods blanket add stuff into monster properties without replacing the actors themselves

Imagine, gameplay mods compatible with monster replacers and custom monsters.

>> No.3593268

>>3593265

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Script_types

KILL is already a script types definition.
It has its niggles, but it's there.

>> No.3593274

>>3593268
So in theory, somebody could take a mod like RPGdoom or whatever it was called, and make a universal compatibility patch that gives XP from any monster killed, adjusted with a function that checks the monster's max health and maybe some other properties and calculates it's power level based on that.

>> No.3593276

>>3593242
Probably gonna play some Doom 64 and Blood.

>> No.3593287

>>3593274

In theory, yes.

>> No.3593290

Probably the wrong board to ask, but how exactly do Doom work?
From what I understood, it's a simulated 3D, but everything is on the same Y axis, so monsters and explosions have unlimited height.

>> No.3593305

Have we the duke nukem world tour levels yet?

>> No.3593307

>>3593290
Y is width.
Z is height which is the coordinate you meant.

Monsters have Z coordinates, and passing over/under actors is technically possible via Z-clipping, but in vanilla Doom it is generally ignered and reserved for monster-projectiles relations (projeectile can get under/above monster, other monsters can't). It's just explosions are calculated as cyllinders so they touch anything above/below anyways if they go off.

Heretic while using same engine without much alterations, applies same Z-clipping to all objects, allowing monsters like Gargoyles to fly over player's and mobs heads, as well as allowing player to run on barrels and other mobs.

So technically Doom is fully 3D, but it never uses that 3D to full extent. That's why many consider it 2.5D.

>> No.3593310

>>3593305
unless things changed, the levels themselves work but the custom weapon and the monsters don't.
also it's kind of shameful that the flamer was so pathetic when powerslave has a perfect flamethrower

>> No.3593315

>>3593290
>From what I understood, it's a simulated 3D, but everything is on the same Y axis, so monsters and explosions have unlimited height.
*sigh* no

Doom is a 3D game. Fireballs and bullets can pass over your head. You can jump out a window and pass above a powerup without collecting it.

However, because the original game didn't have a huge amount of height variation in the levels, Carmack took a bunch of shortcuts in the coding. So not everything bothers to take 3D into account. Solid non-fireball objects only check for collisions in 2D.

>> No.3593316

>>3593242
Spill d-man ketchup in Diablo 2 LoD.

>> No.3593317
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>>3593307
>Z is height
Is it exclusive to Doom? I always thought that Z was deptht.

>> No.3593327

>>3593317
Depends. Most games follow Cartesian system internally, in which Z is height.

>> No.3593328

>>3593262
Didn't absolution did this?

>> No.3593329
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3593329

So Kaiser said some time ago that he's currently working on three projects. I suspect two of them are Turok 2 and Blood EX, but does anyone know what the third one may be?

Also, has there been any new updates on Blood EX's status lately?

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>>3593317
>>3593327
Picrelated.

>> No.3593332

>>3593330
Then what is the system I'm used to, where Y is the height and Z is the depth? How is it called?

I think Worldcraft, Half-Life's level creator, used it.

>> No.3593339

>>3593262
Legal reasons. Same why people are brohibited from distributing actual Doom.wad and Doom2.wad alongside their mods.

>>3593328
Ansolution was /recreation/. Levels were remade from scratch, by look and feel. It looks near identical, but it's techincally not using same (legally protected) data.

Doom64EX extracts all the original data with no alterations - it is exactly as it is on the cart.


>>3593329
3d may be actual real steam release of Powerslave.

>> No.3593347

>>3593332
>Then what is the system I'm used to, where Y is the height and Z is the depth? How is it called?
its called functionally the same system, since swapping around two axis has no impact

>> No.3593349

>>3593339
>steam release of Powerslave
Might be cool, especially if we get a level editor and workshop support with it, I 'd like to see some custom missions

>> No.3593364

>>3593339
>Ansolution was /recreation/. Levels were remade from scratch, by look and feel. It looks near identical, but it's techincally not using same (legally protected) data.
From a copyright standpoint, this is basically irrelevant. If you trace over someone else's picture it is "technically not the same data" but it is still infringement (see: the famous Obama HOPE poster that the artist had to pay a big settlement over because he used someone's photo as a base without permission)

>> No.3593370

>>3593332
>Then what is the system I'm used to, where Y is the height and Z is the depth? How is it called?
in 3D graphics, most of the time you are concerned with the camera's point of view, so X and Y are moving around the flat image space and the Z axis is moving in and out of the picture, since that's the most natural in that context

when dealing with a 3D space like a doom level, usually you prefer to use X and Y as horizontal traversal and the Z axis for moving up and down, since that's the most natural in that context

>> No.3593371

>>3593242
training for the fucking reflex league I signed up for

>> No.3593373

>>3593370
Ha, okay.

>> No.3593381

I followed the guide of compiling gzdoom on Linux but I get a fluidsynth error:

"fluidsynth: error: Unable to open file "/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GS.sf2"
fluidsynth: error: Couldn't load soundfont file
fluidsynth: error: Failed to load SoundFont "/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GS.sf2"
fluidsynth: error: Unable to open file "/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2"
fluidsynth: error: Couldn't load soundfont file
fluidsynth: error: Failed to load SoundFont "/usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2"
Failed to load any MIDI patches.
Could not open MIDI out device"

Does anyone know how to fix this? I would like to have sound.

>> No.3593431

>>3593287
Is doing it that way really resource intensive or buggy or something, or is it just a recent addition? I recall mods that use "x thing happens when monsters are killed" needing to replace everything with their modified monsters to function.

What about changing the properties of existing monsters? Like for example, if you wanted to remove hitscan attacks from the game in a global way, could you do a script that iterates through the whole table of monsters at map start, checks if they use hitscan attacks and replaces those attack states with ones that use custom projectiles with the same damage, attack rate and so on?

>> No.3593450

I keep getting a 403 for doomiwads link in the DOOM info-graph. Is there a different link?

>> No.3593512

what are the best megawads for gameplay mods guys

>> No.3593515

Is it just me, or is D4D's Static Rifle TOO good?

>> No.3593516

>>3593512
Scythe 2

>> No.3593526

Would it be possible to backport D4D to ZDoom? Is it even necessary?

>> No.3593528

>>3593431
recent addition

>> No.3593530

>>3593512
Speed of Doom

>> No.3593532

>>3593516
if you're a masochist maybe.

around map20 I realized that playing D4D with this was a mistake, the Doom 4 bfg (i.e: very scarce ammo) is not tuned to play those maps that were made with you bfg-ing everything half the time.

maybe d4d 2.0 is a different case.

>> No.3593536
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3593536

>beat boss in final level
>"congratulations, you truly have brought DOOM™ to your enemies"

are you fucking kidding me?

>> No.3593540

>>3593532
Yeah, it gets brutal when you get to the jungle maps but the first few episodes are a good time.

>> No.3593574

>>3593381

Which distro are you using?

I installed timidity as midi player, and worked as a charm.

>> No.3593576

>>3593532
Use the orbiting shot and rely on Gauss Cannon siege shots

>> No.3593578

>>3593528
BD blood mod using KILL when? WoC using KILL when?

>> No.3593580

>>3593576
>orbiting shot
not a thing in D4D 1.0.

>> No.3593590

>>3593193
Oh my GOD valiant is an amazing wad, why haven't i played this sooner?

>That level where you have to protect the mancubus before turning off the deadman switch

Is there any other wads like this? (new balanced enemies and weapons, gimmicky levels, great boss fights etc)

>> No.3593593

>>3593536
>not named cuckodemon
I will say this everytime untill you remain it.

>> No.3593594

https://youtu.be/KwEQ9To-7m0

>> No.3593596

>>3593593
but anon why would I ruin the joke like that

>> No.3593598

>>3593593

You realize that's admission of reposting/spamming, right?

>> No.3593602

>>3593598
It would be both of us, because i'll only say it when he posts it. So he'd be reposting/spamming just as much as me

>> No.3593603
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3593603

>>3593602
>posting one image is spamming

what

>> No.3593606

>>3593602
>>3593593
I bet you're the same autist who spergs out whenever someone posts a screenshot with filters on.

>> No.3593610

>>3593606
filters are awful, though

>> No.3593613

>>3593606

Filters being terrible has nothing to do with "I will repost this every time until you change it".

>> No.3593615

>>3593606
but that's a lot of people.

hell /doom/ was circlejerking over making their games look more pixelated than even vanilla a few weeks ago.

>> No.3593621

>>3593610
They are

>>3593613
There is one guy who posts the same post verbatim in reply to filtered screenshots

>> No.3593629

>>3593621
>there is one guy

So you know for sure it's one single person and not a variety of people that have that opinion?
Because I call bullshit on that.

>> No.3593631

>>3593242
Work the graveyard shift at job. I'll get off early tomorrow morning and as soon as I get off I'll play some more BD64.

>> No.3593640

>>3593574
Linux Mint

>> No.3593647

>>3593640

sudo apt-get install timidity

I should do the trick. Then you can select timidity as MIDI software in gzdoom sound settings.

>> No.3593664
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3593664

Is this laser supposed to look like this?

>> No.3593678
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3593678

>>3593664
i am a representative of the red cross, you must cease and desist the abuse of our trademark immediately

>> No.3593691

>>3593593

>remain it

>> No.3593695

>>3593678
I ain't afraid of no post.

>> No.3593697 [SPOILER] 
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3593697

>>3593695

even this one?

>> No.3593698

>>3593697
>underage skeleton giving head
L-lewd.

>> No.3593735

>>3593252
Oh dang, I just recently played the entirety of Blood, I should have held off until the spoopiest time of year

>> No.3593737

>>3593735
Go play Deathwish

>> No.3593764

Is there a wad/map for the doom 64 opening cutscene thing? You know the one that spells "doom"

>> No.3593816
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>> No.3593837

What .wad do you guys would recommend for Doom4Doom 2.0?

Already played the Japanese community wad, valiant and Scythe 2

>> No.3593842

>>3593837
Memento Mori 1 and 2.

>> No.3593851

http://www.strawpoll.me/10426064

>> No.3593856

>>3593851
>anything but Going Down

is that even a question m8

>> No.3593859

>>3593856

>not giving props to zen dynamics

>> No.3593871

>>3593859
Is that the most overrated map wad ver made?

>> No.3593882

>>3593851
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10426064
>scythe 2 more votes than valiant
in what world

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3593887

your opinion on The Chasm

>> No.3593890

>>3593887
distinct compared to most Doom 2 maps.

inescapable death pits near the exit is always bullshit though.

>> No.3593891

>>3593887
It's shit, like most of doom 2 maps.

>> No.3593893

>>3593891
I think I hate Doom 2 more than 64, somehow.

>> No.3593912
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>> No.3593935

>>3593912
yeah?

>> No.3593943

>>3593851
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10426064
>All those non-megawad options
It's that poll spamming guy from a few months ago again, isn't it?

>> No.3593949

>tfw you're too bad at the game to enjoy Going Down's later levels even on HNTR
just

>> No.3593952

Why are my settings for voxels not saved in D4D? I turn them off, exit, and the're back on when I start the game up again.

>> No.3593957

>>3593943
try putting 2 and 2 together

>> No.3593960

Finished Map03 of my project.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/91404-aracnocide-the-hives-of-madness-wip/

>> No.3593983

But what about Quake 2?

>> No.3593985

>>3593949
You dont have to be good, you just have to be patient. Pot shot take everything SUPER SLOW.

>> No.3593989

>>3593983
Eh, it's okay. Really the epitome of "just okay."
Thanks to Yamagi Quake 2 existing though it's worth giving it a shot without it crapping out on you, but I don't think there's a link to it in the OP pastebin. You'll probably need to install it through a GoG installer.

>> No.3593993

So D4D is crashing on runes and the quad damage.

>> No.3593995

>>3593989
>You'll probably need to install it through a GoG installer

can confirm this

GoG + Yamagi is best

>> No.3594009

>>3593262
>>3593339

>Legal reasons. Same why people are prohibited from distributing actual Doom.wad and Doom2.wad alongside their mods.

And this is what I don't understand. Every time a new episode of BTSX is released a few Doom moralists throw a fit because of the bundled IWAD sprites that had to be adapted to the new palette in order to look normal.

We also have D64EX where Kaiser had to develop a tool to dump the ROM data, not just because of authenticity's sake, but also because of the reasons you just mentioned.

But Mark is getting a free pass, even on fucking Doomworld of all places.

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3594010

it's dark

>> No.3594045

>that easy skill selection in Zerstörer

lmao

>> No.3594047

is TFC even worth playing? E1,2 and 9 so far have been complete garbage

>> No.3594051

>>3594047

Hard =/= Garbage

when will you fucking idiots understand

>> No.3594052

>>3594051

especially when it comes to fucking episode 4, of all bundle of maps to ever be released for doom

>> No.3594054

>>3594051
because it wasn't actually hard to play through just annoying

>> No.3594061

>>3594054
>because it wasn't actually hard to play through just annoying

Oh please. Why is it 100% always the maps that are consistently considered hard by the community that you pull the "its not hard, its annoying" bullshit? Its gotten tiresome by now.

>> No.3594064

>>3594054

and that's why you call it garbage, because it annoyed you

please don't play any modern wads ever

>> No.3594065

>>3594061
yeah those jumping puzzles were super fun

>> No.3594067

>>3594065
>jumping

oh no what did you just do

>> No.3594069

>>3594065
>jumping puzzles

TFC has none of those.

>> No.3594082

>>3594054
Git gud.

>> No.3594094

Does save scumming make me a fag? I'm Hard.

>> No.3594106

>>3594094
If you do it every room then yes. I usually save whenever I find a key if it's a long level.

>> No.3594116

>>3594106
I do it every time I feel the game is going to fuck my shit up. And I'm pretty good at predicting those things, even if I say so myself.

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3594118

This is giving me flashbacks of Valley of Defilement

>> No.3594140

>>3594009
>But Mark is getting a free pass, even on fucking Doomworld of all places.
feel free to narc on him, then.

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3594153

>>3594065
>jumping puzzles

>> No.3594175

>>3593193
who's the artist?

>> No.3594179

>>3594094
no? you can play whichever way accommodates your pacing, it's mainly got to do with preconceiving encounters, with just enough time experienced players know just when the map's going to pull some nasty shit on them, and some are tougher than others. I would advise, though, you should strive for making it as far as possible without saving every once in a while.

>>3593209
it's funny to think you'd be perfectly fine with it if it was yet another rehashed doom meme by any other name and that so much as a still of something you don't like is enough to put you off. some pretty petty shit.

>> No.3594180

>tfw after all these years you replay through an old level and find a secret on your own

timeless feels

>> No.3594182

>>3594118
what mod?

>> No.3594183

>>3594179
It's just that non-retro OP on retro board even if it is a tiny bit relevant, still loks grating and inapropriate. It can easily be overlooked in other cases, but on holiday thread one would expect something more tasteful.

>> No.3594185

>>3593615
Was there a version of that pixelated shader which wouldn't warp the weapon or hud graphics?

Also how resource intensive was it?

>> No.3594186
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3594186

SONIC PENIS HOG IN DOOM II BOTS ON MOBIUS

>> No.3594187

>>3594182
It's mfx's map from Map Jam 3

>> No.3594190
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3594190

>> No.3594193

>>3594183
I mean, yeah, it could've been something Halloween themed instead, but to interject that with your own distaste for something you don't particularly like while fending off the 'it's not retro' card, when there's been OPs with non-retro content a couple times before... I don't know.

>> No.3594196

>>3594061
There is a difference between challenge and tedium though.

>> No.3594198
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3594198

my eyes

>> No.3594208

>>3594198
>>3594190
IDK about other effects, but bloom really looks grating with that aestetic. Try making a screenshot with ambient occlusion.

>> No.3594210
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3594210

>>3594208
ReShade has ambient occlusion?

>> No.3594214

>>3594210
>how would you like your eyesight senpai

JUST BLOOM MY SHIT UP

>> No.3594215
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3594215

what just happened

>> No.3594218

>>3594210
mark did a nice job on in the void I see

>> No.3594220
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>>3594208

>> No.3594226
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>> No.3594227

>>3594215

This actually looks nice.

>> No.3594228

>>3594226
jesus.

>> No.3594229
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3594229

what's going on here

>> No.3594230

>>3594226
>>3594229
>depth shading, semi realistic occlusion
>rough, 90 angle geometry
everytime

>> No.3594232
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3594232

>>3594230
i don't get what you're saying

>> No.3594237

>>3594215
>>3594226
>>3594229
>>3594232
What are you using?

>> No.3594238

>>3594232
shading looks cool
furniture is however still limited to basic geometry and looks really off in contrast

>> No.3594239
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>>3594238
Ah, gotcha. I thought you were being negative about it.

>> No.3594240

>>3594239

Oh wow. This is comfy

>> No.3594241

>>3594239
this one actually looks really nice and comfy with a bit better lighting

>> No.3594242

>>3594239
so where's Toriel

>> No.3594243
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3594243

>>3594239
>and here is anon's room
>he's quite the doomer

>> No.3594246
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3594246

oh wow look what happens with map look
>>3594237
ReShade.

>> No.3594259

>>3594242
What.

>> No.3594260

>>3594259
not him but it kinda reminds me of the house in the ruins from undertale.

>> No.3594261

>>3594242
>>3594260

i think you're seeing something that isn't there, anon

>> No.3594262

>>3594260
That looks nothing like Toriel's house at all. It's Jerry's house from Seinfeld

>> No.3594265

>>3594261
>reminds me of

>> No.3594267
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3594267

it's an interesting way of playing Doom

>> No.3594268

Can I wiggle through bars in ZDoom

>> No.3594269
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3594269

i like how the blood has a shadow

>> No.3594294

>>3594196
Its not as simple as that when someone consistently only pulls the "its not hard" card on stuff thats otherwise consistently considered hard by the community. At this point I'm no longer convinced its a simple case of "its just tedious", and more see it as a case of someone stubbornly not wanting to admit their lack of skill and patience, and that anything that isn't within their comfort zone is automatically tedious and annoying.

>> No.3594297

>>3594294
I dunno man, I've certainly played enough things that are supposed to be "hard" that end up just being tedious by virtue of extremely punishing gameplay that slows the experience down to a crawl (Not just talking about Doom here). Calling someone unskilled for disliking the type of difficulty in a "hard" game/map/whatever comes off as pretty snobbish.

>> No.3594314

>>3594297
Its just as snobbish to always say "its not hard guys" whenever you don't enjoy something and find it tedious. It comes across as you undermining the skill and patience of those who do indeed enjoy such maps. I mean, You do realise hard and tedious are NOT mutually exclusive, right?

>> No.3594318

>>3594314
Nice pseudo-accusations there, I'm not even the guy you were talking to. Hard and tedious are not mutually exclusive, but there is precious little overlap between them. When the "skill" needed to enjoy a map boils down to "take cover, shoot" and "press F5 every 3 seconds" there isn't much to be said for difficulty. Now, I don't find TFC to be particularly hard personally, but I'd be lying if I said parts of it weren't completely tedious. The ammo conservation required in some parts really slows down the gameplay and makes it less about dodging and shooting and more about counting bullets and having the patience to use suboptimal weapons to kill certain monsters.

>> No.3594326

>>3594318
>When the "skill" needed to enjoy a map boils down to "take cover, shoot" and "press F5 every 3 seconds" there isn't much to be said for difficulty.

Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.3594345

>>3594326
You don't have a point.
Your claim that people who don't enjoy tedious BS say so because simply because they lack skill for it is retarded.

Hellbound by map 20 it becomes a boring and tedious snoozefest despite looking great and throwing hundreds of mobsinto the fray at the same time. Sunlust does much better job at entertaining me, despite being bullshittingly hard and slaughtery towards the end. Does that mean that mean that Hellbound too hard for me? Not at all.

>> No.3594350
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3594350

>>3594269
What are you doing?

>> No.3594352

>scar3crow's map in Map Jam 3
>mostly just revolves around one arena encounter
>waves of fiends, then shamblers, then vores mixed with some spawn
>wow, ok, this is pretty challenging
>killed nearly all of them, just mopping up some stray zombies
>suddenly get gibbed
>the pitch black ceiling was slowly lowering the whole time and I only noticed it after I had been crushed

Wooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.3594362

>>3594345
>Your claim that people who don't enjoy tedious BS say so because simply because they lack skill for it is retarded.
What? They can find them as unenjoyable and tedious as they want. My problem is that these people insist on also spouting "its not hard" when they're talking about something thats generally considered hard, like they're trying to disprove their difficulty. This is what pisses me off.

>> No.3594364

>>3594362
that is a very strange and very specific thing to get pissed off about

>> No.3594367
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3594367

Now this is just getting too far.

Im all for festive spirit and all, but not when it messes with basic useability.

>> No.3594374

>>3594367
Halloween's basically over now so it'll probably disappear soon.

>> No.3594409 [DELETED] 

>>3594242
>bringing up Undertale when no one mentioned Undertale in the first place
Fuck off to the Zandronum forums.

>> No.3594421

https://youtu.be/hzPpWInAiOg

>> No.3594426

>>3594421
Here's Entryway but it's less ear-rapey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATTddlfGHQM

>> No.3594447

I'm trying to make Doom look "prettier" but not too overboard. Any opinion on:

>Beautiful Doom
>Particle Fire Enhancer
>Smooth Doom
>Extra Textures like DHTP

>> No.3594450

>>3594447
Any high res content looks grating with Doom's simple environment, so no high res textures or models.

>> No.3594459

>>3594447
I appreciate the extra animations and other goodies from Smooth Doom.

>> No.3594462

The skeletons are gone

>> No.3594464

>>3594462
An enjoyable Halloween. Till next year.

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>>3594462

we're not ALL gone

>> No.3594521
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3594521

>Gameplay mod has a shitload of keybinds
>Decide to play other mod later
>Also have to set another lot of keybinds with no common keys

>> No.3594528

>>3594521
>play a mod that works with multiple iwads
>have to redo keys and shit for every one

>> No.3594530

>>3594528
That is also irritating since it also covers other options as well than just keybinds. What's the deal here anyway? You'd imagine people wanting to use ZDoom ports for Heretic/Hexen/Strife also play Doom and thus sharing common settings between all of them would be a no-brainer.

Knowing Randy it would probably get a [NO]

>> No.3594541

>Someone in the last thread says D4D doesn't work on maps reliant on the BFG for killing lots of enemies
>Cites Scythe 2 as an example

>Orbiting BFG shots shits on every level for free and is so ammo efficient and powerful that you are basically guaranteed 16 seconds of invincibility with it on and can clear out so much
>Blitzing through all of Scythe 2's levels with this alone
>Normal BFG shot wipes out 475 monsters in a single shot at the start of map 30
>BFG ammo is handed out like candy in slaughtermaps like that

D4D is really fun but this is some Russian Overkill levels of power right here so that anon was a dummy

>> No.3594581

>>3594541
Fairly certain that anon stated he was using an earlier version of d4d that didn't have the orbiting shot.

>> No.3594584

>>3594541
>>Orbiting BFG shots
oh hey look, the very first thing someone else said as well,.

the D4D with orbiting BFG shot only came out 2 days ago you know.

>> No.3594613
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>> No.3594618
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>>3594613

>> No.3594627
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3594627

BRAVO MARK

B R A V O

>> No.3594629

>>3594179
It's still a shit OP

>> No.3594631

>>3594627

people are willing to pay for sprites like that

fool's gold

>> No.3594632

>>3594210
where did you get your reshade from? every time i install mine, it fucks up the MENUDEFS

>> No.3594637
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3594637

>>3594631
>people paid money for this shit
>I can't find someone to paint me one frame for a centered weapon

>> No.3594638
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3594638

>>3594632
I got mine from this site.
https://reshade.me/

>> No.3594641 [DELETED] 

>>3594638
fuck of with your furry mod.

>> No.3594643
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3594643

>>3594641
I wonder if Pillowblaster is actually a scalefag

>> No.3594646

>>3594643
Well his profile picture is a reptile man, so who knows. I don't think it really matters anyway.

>> No.3594647 [DELETED] 

>>3594638
Are there any versions of that wad in which we do not play as someone's scalie OC? I'd really love to know.

>> No.3594649

>>3594647
play the first version. the one thats only heretic compatible.

>> No.3594650
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>>3594409
what the fuck is your problem?

>> No.3594651

So now that Brutal Doom 64 is out should I just move my map over to that or continue with Doom 64 EX? Will people still play on EX?

>> No.3594654

>>3594629
cry more

it's not like people with your mindset do anything else in these threads and we're all aware by now

>> No.3594660

>>3594651
I think most people would rather play the actual D64 that EX provides over the alternative.

>> No.3594661

Is it possible to play the brutal doom 64 release without the client that comes bundled with it?

>> No.3594662
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3594662

>>3594646
Pretty much. Other anon is kind of overreacting.

>>3594647
It would be a fair deal of work to remove all traces of Cyg, but honestly being an OP dragon dude is effectively the entire point of the mod, both in theme and practice. It's a Pillowblaster mod, given how flashy it is I think of it more as silly, the work put in is definitely of higher caliber than what you'd expect out of a typical OC donut steel mod.

You might as well play something like Trailblazer otherwise, or if you want the off-hand powers gimmick, Psychic.

>> No.3594667

>>3594638
what version of gzoom do you have

>> No.3594672

>>3594662
bringing up furries whenever guncaster is posted is something I keep noticing shitposters do. kinda like the mong who kept spamming epin shock images he grabbed off e621when somebody mentioned shadow of the wool ball.

>> No.3594673

>>3594667
gzdoom-g2.3pre-113-g750c194

>> No.3594674

>>3594672
God I remember that. Please don't remind me.

>> No.3594691

>>3594672
"Shadow of the wool ball"?

>> No.3594693

>>3594691
"Shadow of the wool ball".

>> No.3594697

>>3594651
Depends of what experience you want.
Making a map for BD64 will allow you to have multiplayer on Zandronum, while 64EX will provide you with a more Vanilla alternative.

>> No.3594698

>>3594691
a furry wolfenstein clone

>> No.3594703

>>3594651
I'd say that multiplayer possibilities is more attractive.

I mean, people playing fucking cdoom64.wad constantly on Zandronum servers.

>> No.3594705
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3594705

this bus goes to infinite space

>> No.3594706

>>3594698
Not really.
Your goal is to save your girlfriend

>> No.3594708

>>3594706
>your girlfriend
that's what he said, it's a fantasy game /doom/ should play sometime.

>> No.3594712

>>3594698
>>3594693

...Right. Thanks for the warning.

>> No.3594715

>>3594673
huh, i didn't know it worked on newer builds.

>>3594706
from evil space cats. biker mice from mars wad when?

>> No.3594720

>>3594715
NIGGA FUCK MICE, they piss me off. I have mice in my apartment and they won't leave my room alone, they're always scratching at stuff and running around with their little feet on the floor

>> No.3594721
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3594721

explain the sausage

>> No.3594728

>>3594720
you do know those green pellet poison things cost tew fitty at the local discount store right?

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>>3594721

>> No.3594734
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3594734

"cozy"

>> No.3594736
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>>3594730
>sauerkraut

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believe it or not it crashed the game

>> No.3594752

>>3594736
>Not liking sauerkraut
Get out of my HOUSE!

>> No.3594771

>>3594752
>liking shreds of pickled cabbage

poor taste

>> No.3594794
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3594794

Found some H-doom fanart I haven't seen before

http://arbuz-budesh.tumblr.com/post/152156005755/i-didnt-really-played-h-doom-im-just-sucker-for

>> No.3594803

What's the last version of gzdoom that can run pirate doom?

>> No.3594804

>>3594803
you mean the latest one can't run it?

>> No.3594805

>>3594794
Is H-Doom even still a thing?

>> No.3594807

>>3594805
What do you mean ''still''?

>> No.3594818

>>3594807

You didn't heard? If a mod stops updating for a week it disappears from thin air.

It happened to me twice in the span of two months. It just, wasn't there when I woke up.

>> No.3594823

>>3594804
it does not, Ol' Graf Zahl changed some stuff with the inventory, which broke a bunch of stuff

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>>3593193
>rocket launcher with LOTS of ammo right before teleporter

>room is nothing but close quarters pinkies

Every single wad does this. fuck even ID does it.

>> No.3594896
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>>3594846
it is part of the challenge

>> No.3594917

>>3594581
I think he mentioned it was D4D 2.0

But even in 1.0 it still wipes out the 475 monsters in map 30 of Scythe 2 because of travel time.

>> No.3594923

>>3594917
>I think he mentioned it was D4D 2.0
I am that man and I mentioned that it's D4D 1.0. In fact I mentioned this very scenario months ago, when I actuallyed played Scythe 2 with D4D.

I am also not talking about map 30.

>> No.3594925

>>3594923
Interesting.

I didn't really find D4D as being a mod where it wasn't capable of tearing through a whole level set though even in 1.0 though.

I always felt stupidly strong in it thanks to the Gauss Cannon

>> No.3594930

>>3594925
It's because by Map 20 or so the game expects you to be bfg-ing rooms half the time, which is why it gives you tons of plasma.

In fact the orbiting shot addresses that very issue.

>> No.3594945

>>3594930
I really like the orbiting shot but it's power is really overwhelming to me.

I don't really see a reason to use the normal shot at this point unless I get a BFG cell from a monster and I already have the orbiting shot up.
And that's just because those pickups disappear

The new SSG sprites are sexy

>> No.3594954
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3594954

Was it ALL A LIE??

>> No.3594956

How do I get inside of a .wad file and extract stuff? I just want Unloved's music and I can't find any working downloads for unwad.

>> No.3594959

>>3594956
Download and install Slade:
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads

Then just drag the .wad or .pk3 into slade, and it will open the file

from there, once you found the Midi, MP3, OGG or in the rare occasion FLAC you want, just rightclick on it and select "Export"

>> No.3594963
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>>3594959
Thank you, dude.

>> No.3594973
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3594973

w-what's going OOOOON here

>> No.3594978

>>3594973
>>3594954
That's actually a really cool aesthetic.
To bad it won't show the enemies like that but otherwise I'd play through Doom like this.

>> No.3594996 [DELETED] 

>>3594641
>>3594647
>>3594712

>still this butthurted about anthropomorphic animals in 2016

bet you never posted in this thread until brutal doom 64 dropped

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>>3594959
Amazingly, the song I was looking for was in a .dat file. Slamming it into winamp worked though, and I found the actual title of the song and where it's from. Thanks again.

>> No.3595016
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3595016

nobody puts square in the corner

>> No.3595017

>>3595000
You're welcome. Glad I could help!
Also, congrats on your trips

>> No.3595019
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3595019

interesting

>> No.3595026
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3595026

>play Hexen
>somehow break the scripting on the Dungeons map
>it turns into a slaughtermap with literally hundreds of ettins because they keep spawning limitlessly from the room with the 6-pronged cage and flooding the rest of the level

>> No.3595028 [DELETED] 

>>3594996
yih

>> No.3595029

>>3594996

>repkying to three-hour old posts when people moved on from the subject already

desist from doing that

>> No.3595035 [DELETED] 

>>3595029
I just got back from having floors redone, chill out.

>>3595028
>>>/reddit/

>> No.3595040 [DELETED] 

>>3595035
>hating furfags is reddit
You're trying way too hard to fit in here.

>> No.3595047
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3595047

Is this what you call


"Sketch Doom"?

>> No.3595048 [DELETED] 

>>3595040
>calling other people tryhard

No one who isn't underage or a redditor has used the terms "furfag" or "yiff in hell" unironically since 2013 at the latest.

>> No.3595049 [DELETED] 

>>3595048
>can't use reddit due to being called out
>uses underage
Your next reply will be: "Whatever you cuck"

>> No.3595053

>>3595049
Nah, I'm not a fucking retard.

>> No.3595056

>>3595053
Your previous posts indicate otherwise.

>> No.3595061

>>3595047
what does it look like without the map?

>> No.3595063
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3595063

>>3595061
like this

>> No.3595067

>>3595063
what wad

>> No.3595072

>>3595067

Unloved, looks like.

>> No.3595074

>>3595072
thanks m8

>> No.3595080
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3595080

HERE COME LASHANDA

>> No.3595084
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3595084

goth girl from high school

>> No.3595085

>>3595080
>nigger ghost attacks wandering bathroom barbarian

>> No.3595090
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3595090

WTF WHY AM I SO BIG

>> No.3595093
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>>3595084
>remember old goth gril from highschool
>meet her in hs reuinion
>she's a happily married normie with a husband and a few kids
>meanwhile I'm still just as edgy literally playing the same games (Doom)

I wasn't expecting to get all these feels from your pic anon

>> No.3595101
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>>3595093
it's okay anon sometimes you gotta start fights to filter out those thoughts and feels

>> No.3595141
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3595141

and striffer

>> No.3595143
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>> No.3595146
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3595146

wait a minute why is everything


green

>> No.3595147
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3595147

anyway it's that easy to get into the base, huh?

>> No.3595148
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3595148

>> No.3595151
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3595151

What was his problem?

>> No.3595171

>>3593197
D4D 2.01 update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6K9PU6Pn_s

>> No.3595175

Man, I really appreciate well designed Vanilla wads. Because of the engine limitations, the mapper can't get too carried away with complex detailing. This means if they push the engine to its limits, the end result will be aesthetics that are complex enough to look great, but also simple enough to not look beyond ridiculous in the context of Doom. BTSX is a great example of this.

>> No.3595187

>>3595093
>doom
>edgy
Epin memay. Doom is the least edgy game you could play, only a baby could call it edgy.

>> No.3595191
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>> No.3595194
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3595194

>> No.3595195

>>3595187
idk m8 I never really consider it that edgy myself, but back then everyone usually associates video games with bright sprites and kiddy themes like Mario or Pokemon, not guns, blood, demon shooting and satanic symbols

>> No.3595196

>>3595187
He didn't say Doom was edgy, he said he was edgy and still played Doom.

>> No.3595202
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3595202

best aesthetics and no other wad has ever able to capture it

>> No.3595207

>>3595195
Killing monsters to survive and save humanity isn't edgy, even if you're extremely violent while doing it.
>>3595196
How.

>> No.3595208

>>3595207
>Playing Doom and have fun
>Dress up in all black and talk about death all the time and how humanity sucks or whatever
Two separate things, easy.

>> No.3595209
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3595209

Ever wanted to defeat Hell's hordes to sick tunes from the childhood you never really had as you were born and raised after the 80s and early 90s, but for some reason, probably thanks to Far Cry Blood Dragon, you are obsessed with 80s inspired retro music?
Look no farther, for I have made my very first mod for any game, SYNTH DOOM!

https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE

Extract the pk3, drag n drop into your source port/launcher folder and select it along with any other wads/maps/mods you play.

>> No.3595210
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3595210

>>3595208
That's absolutely hypocritical though and I'd hope that anyone who does that is self-aware and being ironic. Also, dressing up in all black isn't edgy.

>> No.3595213

>>3595209
>133 MB
This isn't midi is it?

>> No.3595214

>>3595210
>dress up in all black
>playing doom
>listening to rock/heavy metal music
>possibly drinking/doing other recreation drugs

guys i'm t-totally now edgy ok?

>> No.3595215

>>3595209
were you the guy who said you're good at making music but didn't know how to make wads and asked for modding advice?

your soundcloud is dank btw

>> No.3595220
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3595220

>>3595171
I want a UDV Hud mod for D4D
.>>3595213
No sir. More or less high quality MP3's. Here is the tracklist.

>> No.3595221
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3595221

>tfw decided to play the JPCP with the HUD
Time to learn to count in anime language.

>> No.3595223
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3595223

Finally making decent progress.

>> No.3595227

>>3595214
>drinking alcohol is edgy
Rock and Metal are only slightly edgy, you shouldn't really be listening to those though because they don't fit Doom's gameplay in the slightest.
>>3595220
Would it be possible to make a midi version?

>> No.3595230

>>3595220
>MP3s

Stop that.

>> No.3595232

>>3595230
Would you prefer a FLAC version?
>>3595227
I can try.

>> No.3595234

>>3595221
>doomguy doesn't have slanty eyes

fucking dropped

>> No.3595235

>>3595232

How about a file format that isn't bloated in size? Compress that shit into OGG.

>> No.3595236

>>3595232
ogg, nigga

>> No.3595238

>>3595209
>>3595220
That's a nice idea and a good playlist but I don't really see a point in making a mod for this if you can just turn off the music ingame and run it in the background.
Also please look into getting good sound files and not downloads from youtube.

>> No.3595239

>>3595210
I was thinking dressing up like a goth or something rather than black shirt and black jeans.

An edgy person can like nonedgy things
Back to Doom

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>>3595209
>synthwave doom

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>>3595220
>I want a UDV Hud mod for D4D
there's brutal d4d for that

>> No.3595262
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3595262

Does anyone else get surprised when they gib an enemy? It never gets old for me.

>> No.3595276

>>3595258
>brutal d4d
You mean D4D + BD Lite? But then I dont get D4D's enemies.

>> No.3595281

>>3595238
I have abysmal upload speeds and I am an unfortunate being who cannot really tell the difference from a purchased song in FLAC or an MP3 rip from youtube.

>> No.3595283

>>3595276
>I dont get D4D's enemies

they're really tame in comparison to BD's extreme hitscanners

>> No.3595287

>>3595283
True, I also like D4D's mechanics. I kinda grew tired of BD.

>> No.3595292

>>3595281
Isn't that more related to download speed?
That's no big deal but there is quite a difference between these two but you need good headphones to hear it in the first place.
Whatever, for doom soundtrack there is generally only two acceptable options: midi(prefered) and ogg(good too). everything else makes the file size too big.

>> No.3595294

>>3595283
Different anon but I think BD's hitscanners are pretty weak.

The Chaingunners do so little damage compared to vanilla and zombie riflemen don't hurt very much despite the boosted fire rate and accuracy.

Shotgunners can hurt but it always feels like they hurt less.

Then again I also play D4D on Nightmare only so everything hits hard when they land a hit

>> No.3595296

>>3595292
Alrighty. I'll start on making a midi or ogg version asap. Took me an hour to upload the original mp3 based version of the pk3.

>> No.3595310

>Open up D4D
>Fucking doomscript inside
God damn how do you even read this?

>> No.3595317

>>3595310
very carefully

>> No.3595325

>>3595317
But I mean, what is "####" "########" 5 A_Blahwhatever? It doesn't even specify the sprite it's working with. Plus you can inline if statements? What? What is this bastard child of DECORATE and ACS?

>> No.3595329

>>3595325
>It doesn't even specify the sprite it's working with.
Yes, that is the point.
"####" for a sprite name inherits from the previous sprite.
# for a frame inherits from the previous frame.

Basically that line means repeat the previous sprite and the previous frame for five tics each iteration.

>> No.3595336

>>3595329
Huh, I guess that makes sense, still, I can't help but feel this would be better served by not trying to work itself into decorate.

>> No.3595338

>>3595175
The only things I'd want to see break vanilla engine compatibility in a high quality megawad are an expanded bestiary and jumping, just to see what experienced mappers could do with it and to see the world burn

>> No.3595341

>>3595338
expanded bestiary is possible in vanilla.

>> No.3595342

>>3595336
ACS can't work with weapons or weapon frames at all, so that really just leaves Decorate.

>> No.3595343

>>3595342
What a mess.

>> No.3595345

>>3595325
>>3595336
one of the things about d4d is that graf and cooke work veeeeeery close together, with cooke even coding stuff in gzdoom specifically for his mods
so a lot of stuff in d4d is pretty much feature requests personally granted and implemented

>> No.3595351 [DELETED] 

>>3595345
>ZDoom devs one again being ingroup faggots
Won't someone please just fork the damned thing and let us rid ourselves of these shitters?

>> No.3595353

>>3595341
I don't think you can go farther than two additional monster types by replacing the secret nazi level stuff, or is it possible to do more than that?

>> No.3595356 [DELETED] 

>>3595351
adding features is a bad thing?

>> No.3595357

>>3595353
I remember All Hell Is Breaking Loose, which came out in 1996, having custom monsters.

>> No.3595359 [DELETED] 

>>3595356
>Hey let's add features my friend wants
>Let's also spend years telling everyone else to fuck off with feature requests
>Let's also continue to tell everyone else to fuck off with feature requests while adding my friend's desired features

>> No.3595365 [DELETED] 

>>3595359

Frankly, it's a step up from [NO], even if it's a small step up.

>> No.3595370 [DELETED] 

>>3595365
No, it's a step back. What's worse than "No I'm not adding more features"? "No, I'm not adding YOUR feature because you're not a member of my friendgroup". It's to be expected from the PC hivemind that is the ZDoom & ZDoom forums dev/moderator team, but still.

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>>3594954
>>3594973
>>3595047
>>3595141
We Kairo now

>> No.3595376 [DELETED] 

>>3595370

Where in the fuck do you get THAT idea?

God damn I've seen some jumping to conclusions before but fucking seriously.

>> No.3595378 [DELETED] 

>>3595370

You're a dumbass.

>> No.3595379

>>3593590
Skillsaw's other WADs also do this, but not to the same degree. Ancient Aliens doesn't have the weapons but it has a degree of the other stuff.

I remember a much earlier WAD being about killing cyberdemons but without weapons, can't remember the name.

>> No.3595381 [DELETED] 

>>3595376
Which one?
>Graf not adding features
He's always told people to fuck off
>Graf now adding features from his buddies but not anyone else
You
>ZDF being a PC nofun zone
Just cruise the offtopic section, or find the reason people get banned from there. It's almost always WW banning them for "not being nice" i.e. disagreeing with their bullshit.
>>3595378
Nice retort.

>> No.3595387
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ass, blood and guts everywhere

>> No.3595389 [DELETED] 

>>3595381
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=18

boy look at all that [added] from people that aren't his inner circle

boy look at all that anger in your post

>> No.3595390 [DELETED] 

>>3595381
>It's almost always WW banning them for "not being nice" i.e. disagreeing with their bullshit

So what did you get banned for?

>> No.3595396 [DELETED] 

>>3595370
>>3595370
this is embarassing.

>> No.3595412 [DELETED] 

>>3595390
Probably called other people faggots and autists as if he was still posting here on 4chan.

>> No.3595413 [DELETED] 

>>3595381
>Just cruise the offtopic section, or find the reason people get banned from there.
This is what you're really angry about, I take it.

>> No.3595415 [DELETED] 

>>3595389
I see few examples of added features that fit that requirement, and people from his inner circle posted in those threads supporting the idea. The others are things that require no code changes, and were basically just content submissions.
>>3595390
Not banned, but I don't post much either. ZDF is total shit.
>>3595413
Nope, it's just a very good example. Here's another: People like Edward850 are unbanned after literal years of being a dick to everyone they talk to, but some new people simply take the wrong side in an argument and get banned for it. ZDF is the pinnacle of shit moderation and post-count favoritism.

>> No.3595418 [DELETED] 

>>3595415
But the pinnacle of shit forums is still the Zandronum Forums, right?

>> No.3595424 [DELETED] 

>>3595418
I mean, they seem to have a much higher population of 12 year olds and fetishfags if that's what you mean.

>> No.3595426 [DELETED] 

>>3595415
>I see few examples of added features that fit that requirement
you said that Graf always tells people to fuck off and doesn't add features from anyone but his buddies.

all those [added] prove you otherwise, don't try to move the goalpost all of a sudden.

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>>3595426
>not reading the rest of the post

>> No.3595430 [DELETED] 

>>3595427
I covered that with ''don't try to move the goalpost''.

all of sudden he said ''w-w-well some of those don't require code changes so they don't count!''.

>> No.3595431 [DELETED] 

>>3595426
A lot of the shit that's been [added] is usually git pull requests dumbass. so 99% of the work has already been done by the user

>> No.3595434 [DELETED] 

>>3595431
thanks for posting something irrelevant.

>> No.3595436 [DELETED] 

>There are Grafdrones here too
And just like that I'm outta here.

>> No.3595438 [DELETED] 

>>3595415
>People like Edward850 are unbanned after literal years of being a dick to everyone they talk to
Edward has been banned several times.

>>3595436

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

>> No.3595441 [DELETED] 

>>3595430
>It's moving the goalpost when I made the goalpost different from yours
Guess what buddy, go look back and check who said
>Graf always 100% of the time tells people to fuck off
>Graf only ever adds things from his friendgroup
Because it wasn't me. What I said was
>Graf not adding features
>He's always told people to fuck off
As in, he has a history of just telling people to fuck off.
>Graf now adding features from his buddies but not anyone else
>You
As in, Graf is now going against his historic trend of being a lazy fuckwit when his friends request something. Guess what? Most of those [added] features were content contributions or suggested by/endorsed by his friends. Anything suggested that required him to lift a finger that is not endorsed by his buddies is still rejected 99% of the time.

>> No.3595443 [DELETED] 

>>3595438
Is he banned now? No? What a surprise.

>> No.3595446 [DELETED] 

>>3595443
So what is it? You want him banned right this moment at your whim?

>> No.3595447 [DELETED] 

>>3595446
>People like Edward850 are unbanned
>b-b-but he was banned a few times
>Is he banned now?
>No
>What, you want him banned?
You must be stupid to not understand the point that was being made.

>> No.3595448 [DELETED] 

>>3595447
>people like Edward850 are unbanned, other people are banned
>he's been banned
>BUT HE'S NOT BANNED RIGHT NOW

you must be stupid to not understand the point that was being made

>> No.3595451 [DELETED] 

>>3595441
>Anything suggested that required him to lift a finger that is not endorsed by his buddies is still rejected 99% of the time.
All of that [added] completely proves you wrong, it's amazing you're still going on with this.

>> No.3595452 [DELETED] 

>>3595431
Except that's also what Cooke mostly does. Git pull requests.

>> No.3595485

For whatever reason I can't hear a lot of the sounds in D4D, is there something wrong? I'm using FMOD for sound and I'm on Linux.

>> No.3595489

>>3595485
Mine won't even run, I assume because I'm on sub 2.0 GZDoom. Maybe you need to update?

>> No.3595505

>>3595489
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Compile_GZDoom_on_Linux#Make_gzdoom_build_directory
I used the guide from here to compile. Using Mint is a pain, I miss the AUR.

>> No.3595508
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3595508

Hmmm, what weapon is this?

>> No.3595551

>>3595508
Clearly a double barreled shotgun, anon.

>> No.3595554
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>>3595508
looks like a shotgun to me

reminded me of the shotgun from T:A

>> No.3595594
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3595594

>dart traps in Brutal Doom 64

>> No.3595608

>finished Hexen
>tfw all this shit in my inventory I didn't use
>kraters, urns, porkolators etc out of the ass
fucking 99 potions syndrome

>> No.3595637

>>3595594
>playing brutal doom 64

you do it to yourself, anon

and that's what really hurts

>> No.3595640

>>3595325

"####" "#" can also be used to 'pass' a sprite to an actor spawned through A_SpawnItemEx, by using SXF_TRANSFERSPRITEFRAME.

>> No.3595645

>>3595187
It was pretty edgy for it's day.
Hell, Wolfenstein 3D was considered quite edgy for the Nazi imagery and the bloody violence

>> No.3595689

First time playing Quake 2, coming out of the first Quake.

What the fuck happened?

>> No.3595690

>>3595689
Romero left.

>> No.3595698

>>3595689
bear with it, Quake III Arena is pretty fucking dank though

>> No.3595702

>the levels Sandy Petersen is most proud of in Doom and Doom II are E2M9 and MAP13

Fucking hell

>> No.3595703

>>3595084
Mai waifu

>> No.3595706

>>3595379
cyberdreams

>> No.3595713

>>3595689
Q2 is good. Notably the multiplayer.

>> No.3595717

>>3595387
what mod is that?

>> No.3595747

>>3595702
He's most proud of E2M9 because he probably made it in 10 minutes.

>> No.3595752
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>>3595717
Claustrophobia 1024.

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>> No.3595762

>>3595702
Sandy Petersen is the king of gimmick levels, someone needs to make a Doom The Way Sandy Petersen did and fill it with every gimmick imaginable, from 1 monster to 64:64 to 1024.

>> No.3595769

>>3595702
>Somehow never played E2M9 before right now
>Play it
>Miss the weapons in the first room
>Think it's a level where you have to abuse infighting
>Realize there are guns
>It's actually just a super quick 2 room level with a delay at the end to stop you from completing it in 5 seconds
Fuck this guy.

>> No.3595774
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3595774

Oh yeah this is the hidden level where you fight the barons in a ninja star shaped map.

>> No.3595779

>>3595774

>sapphire wand

Anon what are you doing?

Good taste in weapons though

>> No.3595784
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3595784

>>3595779
old wad called "hexen weapons in doom"

>> No.3595806
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>> No.3595813

>>3595227
>you shouldn't really be listening to those though because they don't fit Doom's gameplay in the slightest
>a half of the soundtrack of the game are MIDI renditions of hard rock and post-thrash metal songs

(You)

>> No.3595816
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3595816

HA HA HA

DATS MEEEE

Fuck, this game is amazing, I like this better than Duke Nukem

>> No.3595830

>>3593891
i agree, the 'doom 2 style' of maps are huge, underdetailed and full of arbitrary confusing bullshit (ie the yellow key area of The Pit). theyre like draft concepts that never got cleaned up. the first 6 maps by American McGee are different though, they're pretty good

>> No.3595831

So I realized I sort of hit a wall at a certain point.
It's pretty easy to come up with standard shit to do (like turn something off, blow something up, kill all of these kind of monsters, destroy all of x, etc.), but I'm having a bit more trouble coming up with some more unique objectives for the player to complete. I've got a rough draft for six levels, but the variety is already starting to wear on me, and I really don't like the feeling.

Any anons have some good, objective ideas? No pun intended.

>> No.3595837

>>3595831
timer starts counting down

"don't die"

>> No.3595841
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3595841

bleh

>> No.3595845

>>3595813
But it doesn't sound like Metal, it's just normal video game music. Metal is god awful for Doom's pacing and it's only when you really play a lot of it that you begin to notice that only a select few levels would fit with metal.

>> No.3595850

>>3595845
Doom is still a e s t h e t i c for metal thoug

I like to listen to Black Sabbath while replaying vanilla doom pls no bully

>> No.3595852
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>>3595762
As much as I love the guy, I probably wouldn't want to play that.

>>3595769
Sandy is cool though.

>> No.3595853

>>3595831
Deliver a pizza with a bomb strapped to you that blows up in 2 minutes, getting hurt flips the pizza and ruins it, a satisfactory delivery defuses the bomb

>> No.3595854

>>3595845
Black Sabbath, Megadeth and Alice In Chains fits Doom quite well tbhfamicom

>> No.3595857
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>> No.3595859

>>3595854
>Black Sabbath

I always think of the song "Into the Void" whenever I play Doom and "The Wizard" whenever I play Hexen/Heretic for some reason

>> No.3595864

>>3595852
Not knowing all the features doesn't excuse some of the bullshit he made.

>> No.3595874

>>3595852
Tom Hall is such a fucking faggot though.

>> No.3595876

>>3595784
What preset ?

>> No.3595879

>>3595874

wew
that's rood

>> No.3595882

>>3595879
John Carmack's refutation of story in games, and by extension the Doom Bible, is 100% correct, 100% infallible, and can be applied to every genre of games.

>> No.3595884
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3595884

Amazing.

>> No.3595889

>>3595853
>>3595837
What the fuck guys? I ask for good ideas and y'all end up giving me, basically, the same thing.

>deliver the pizza on time without dying
>don't let your pizza meter reach zero!
>sick deliveries increase your combo meter
>deliver them all!

More ideas.

>> No.3595906

>>3595752
the hell? does that mod screw with your vision or something?

>> No.3595910

>>3595831

Water themed level, player is given a unique weapon for this stage, either do full on swimming or low gravity jumps

Medieval themed stage where the player has to use projectile based weapons and melee to fight through dudes, include more traps like spikes, arrows, crushers, and shit

Movie set themed level, different sets represent different vidya, like a Douk set, Shadow Warrior, and Doom set.

Kaiju themed staged where you're a giant doomguy stomping through a tiny city, include tiny monsters using inheritance and scale, ez pz

>> No.3595914
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>>3595906
only if you turn on map

>> No.3595917

>>3595889
"Find the exit"

Really objectives don't matter that much unless it's important to storytelling

>> No.3595918
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3595918

I bet you guys can't recognize this level

>> No.3595930

>>3595918
Is it from an official mapset?

>> No.3595936
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>>3595918

>> No.3595960

>>3595816
it has its problems but it's really fun

blood is better though

>> No.3595964
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3595964

I timed my shot on the last episode boss and became


ONE


SHOT


JOHNNY

>> No.3595990
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3595990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWVdBk_rd1w

>> No.3595992

Do the people at /vr/ ever play skulltag/zdaemon together?

If not we should find a day/time that works with most people and start it up.

>> No.3595996

>>3595992

>skulltag

bruh

>zdaemon

BRUH

>> No.3596000

>>3595996
well...WHAT WOULD WE USE THEN!? I don't mind being made fun of, but at least throw in a better option.

>> No.3596001

>>3596000
z&

>> No.3596002

>>3595608
I know that feel. Even when I made a mapset to try and force you to use items, I still ended up with 25 quartz flasks by the end of the playthrough... ah well.

What are you going to play next?

I can recommend a few good hexen mods:
Necrosis
Serpent: Resurrection
Scourge of Viscerus
Shadow of Chronos
Wolfen
and my "a Morte" if you want some ww2/outlaws/S.T.A.L.K.E.R in your hexen

>> No.3596004

>>3596001
fair, I just never see any servers on it figured people don't use it anymore. Where zdaemon always has lots of people

>> No.3596006
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>>3595223
Looking nice anon. subtle lighting

>> No.3596012

>>3595990
How do people even come up with these

>>3595992
Skulltag is long dead

>> No.3596019
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>> No.3596023
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>>3595990
but why

>> No.3596029

>>3596019

aeiou

>> No.3596039

>>3596029
john madden john madden john madden

>> No.3596067

>>3595223
Is that another stab at GZDoom 64?

>> No.3596104

>>3596004
>I just never see any servers on it
but there's literally always servers on it, loads of em in fact.

>> No.3596106

>>3596067
Its gotta be a Doom64EX map - legit colored lighting

>> No.3596128

>>3596019

I require a Doomguy drawn in the style of ZUN.

>> No.3596130

>>3593193
What's the best way to play Doom on Android?

>> No.3596162

>>3596130
Doom Touch also known as D-Touch. Author was kicked from Goolge Play and went to Amazon Store.

Costs 2 or 3 bucks.

Has Chocolate, prBoom+ (both software and OpenGLes), GZDoom 1.8.5 and GZDoom 2.0 pre (plays all the mods that play on those too, including old versions of BD, Samsara and Demonsteele as well as ZDoom and GZDoom specific maps)

Has good and fully customizable controls.

>> No.3596185

>>3596162
> Author was kicked from Goolge Play
Why?
>Costs 2 or 3 bucks.
Haha no thanks

>> No.3596187

>>3596019
I wish there was a custom monster touhou mod.

>> No.3596190

>>3593193
Is Painkiller retro?

>> No.3596191

>>3596190

No but it's a really cool game, and I don't think anyone is gonna mind if you talk about it.

I sure don't.

>> No.3596192

>>3596190
Well it wasn't released before 1999, so technically no. Great try at bringing back Quake style gameplay to the early 2000s though.

>> No.3596195

>>3596191
I mostly just want to complain about all the sequels. I tried Overdose recently, and it feels like they completely failed to understand what was fun in the game.

>>3596192
Great, now I want to reinstall Quake.

>> No.3596196

>>3596195

Oh yeah they COMPLETELY screwed the pooch after the first one. But that first game is great, it still has one of my favorite starter weapons I've ever used in an FPS.

>> No.3596197

>>3596195
Everything after Painkiller and it's first expansion are basically fan sequels sold in stores that missed the point entirely and were all awful.

Also if you want to play Quake again, there's a handy pastebin in the OP (the dated one) which has all the game files you need to run it with Quakespasm.

>> No.3596204

>>3596196
Damn right. I'm thinking of reinstalling it and see how far I can get with just the first weapon.

>>3596197
Yeah, they completely missed it. I mean, Overdose introduces a lot of new weapons.
Pretty neat, hu? Except most of them are reskins, and the others either require you to micromanage (the dagger's alt fire), or lack the "third shot" option that many weapons had in the first game.
And let's not talk about the fact that they attached to souls to the enemies' heads, heads that are often sent flying due to the massive knockback, and thus the souls are lost.

>> No.3596206
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>>3596195
There's a lot of good custom maps that came out in the past couple years.

>> No.3596207

>>3596206
The only things I dislike with Quake are the useless melee weapon, and the enemies having so many HP.
I understand they beefed enemies to compensate for having less of them, but I don't like enemies that can take half a magazine in the face.

>> No.3596209

>>3596207
I think the problem is not the enemies having a lot of HP, but the weapons being so weak. It's like the only strong weapons are grenade, rocket launchers, super nailgun and lightening gun.

>> No.3596210

>>3596207
>boom-shck
>URRRRRRRR
>boom-shck
>URRRRRRRR
>boom-shck
>URRRRRRRR
>boom-shck
>*dies*

>> No.3596213

>>3596207
Nothing anywhere near as bad as having to deal with cacodemons at long range or without an ssg

>> No.3596215

>>3596213
The migun was pretty good at this.

Damn, just talking about it reminds me of how awful the shotgun is in Overdose.
>lot more dispersion, making it useless at mid-long range
>shoots weird bones things that aren't instant
>random damage
Sometimes it gibs enemies at short range, and sometimes you need two point blank hits. What a mess.

>> No.3596216

>>3596213
chainguns, rockets and plasma do the job.

>> No.3596219

>>3596209
The grenade launcher is given to you early on in each of Quake's episodes and in most custom maps so what's the problem? It certainly can't be the ammo since ogres drop them and they're the most common enemy in Quake maps.

>> No.3596221

>>3596162
I was considering getting it, but it looks outdated. Is there nothing better?

>> No.3596243

I still have no sound in gzdoom. I installed timidy like an anon here suggested but nothing changed. Please help. I want to play.
I'm on Linux Mint 18.0 and installation works and I can run it but I don't hear any sound.

>> No.3596247
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>Generate OBLIGE megawad
>Get this

>> No.3596251

>>3596247
>I LIVE... FOREVER

>> No.3596260
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>>3596247

>> No.3596263

>>3596243
Did you actually set GZDoom to use Timidity?

>> No.3596305

>>3596219
Actually, it takes 2-3 grenades to kill an ogre and they only drop one.

>> No.3596309

>>3596305
They drop two. And if you're retarded enough to use a third grenade on an ogre instead of finishing him off with a shotgun blast, it gibs him and you don't get the ammo drop.

>> No.3596310
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Making a saturated palette like this is hard without having a contrasty pixel mess where colours meet on a texture

>> No.3596328

>>3596002
>What are you going to play next?
I'll probably start playing Deathkings today and if I'm feeling insane enough I'll do Strife after that, I'm playing iwads I have never gotten around to playing yet.

>> No.3596346

>>3595813
So, I checked know your meme and I couldn't find anything about "(You)" or "Here is your (You)"

>> No.3596362

>>3596346
kek

>> No.3596365

>>3596328
good luck. Deathkings is tough - I never finished it due to puzzles and "where am I supposed to go"-ism

>> No.3596382

>>3596365
Even the normal Hexen had some parts where I was completely lost. I had to leave a trap with a chaos device because I had no idea how to escape, and I had to noclip through a wall couple of times because I had completely exhausted my options and had no idea how to open them.

>> No.3596385
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3596385

> watch Mike's stream of BD
> actually pretty cool
So can you tweak all the settings like in smoothdoom?

If you can, it's the gem I've been fucking searching for (maybe even that's what it was on that lost webm).
If you can't, it deserves all the hate.

>> No.3596398

>>3596385
>lost webm
The one which I kept saying was Vavoom?

>> No.3596404

>>3596221
No, not really. There's DoomGLes which is atrocious and several ports of chocolate with terrible controls, that also cost money.

>>3596185
Kicked from google play because he got carpet bombed with copyright strikes claiming that his Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy and Return to Castle Wolfenstein ports contain game data (they don't). Regarding cost - all other doom ports on android cost more. Even the pure chocolate ones.

Besides, it was available for free for a few months when it first appeared on google play, and then again for 2 weeks after it migrated to Amazon.

>> No.3596420

D-Touch is pretty neat but without a controller I get wrecked early on in UV. Also tried using a bluetooth mouse, but it doesn't seem compatible with it.

>> No.3596432

>>3596385
You can only change some minor things in BD, like blood amount, or play a vanilla-style gamemode.
Use Project Brutality instead.

>> No.3596441
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>>3596398
It's not fucking vavoom, as I told you already. It looked like tweaked up doom. Vavoom is legitimately the ugliest thing I've ever saw.


Also I gave up on nosave on 7th or 8th floor of 4th chapter of Wolfenstein. Pretty good run, I think.

I really don't understand how people think Wolf got unnecessary with Doom. I finished every official release as well as TWiDs and Wolf is still fun as fuck.

>> No.3596446

>>3596432
Does it work with smoothdoom or does it include it?

>> No.3596453

>>3596441
I know it's not Vavoom, I was just messing with you. Your description sounded more like Doomsday/Risen3D without any model/texture packs.

>> No.3596458

Is FKER any good?

>> No.3596464
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>>3596453
I'm 85% I saw risen3d in the title, so I'm leaning towards it being some anon's mod or whatever, that he used with risen3d. It was mainly a light effect show off, there was blue light just fucking drowning the room through some net-like structure or whatever.

Pretty sure it's not doomsday.

>> No.3596467

Is mapping for Quake any more difficult than mapping for Doom?

>> No.3596468

>>3596458
It's okay, don't say anything bad about the plasma pistol or you'll upset the dev though

>> No.3596478

>>3596467
Not harder, just different.

>> No.3596482

>>3596467
Doom is connecting lines while Quake is smashing blocks together.

>> No.3596486

>>3596478
>>3596482
Cool, just something new I have to get used to I guess. I've been playing a lot of Quake maps recently and I wanted to try my hand at it.

>> No.3596487

>>3596486
Trenchbroom is your go-to tool. It's the GZDoom Builder of Quake.

>> No.3596497
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3596497

Remind me the easiest way to screenshot in ECWolf (no, not thru win ffs), pls.

>> No.3596504

>>3596497
with a phone

>> No.3596519

>>3596468
The plasma pistol suck dicks.

>> No.3596520

>>3596519

It really does

>> No.3596534
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>>3596504
thx

>> No.3596561

>>3596441
Why do the nazis like to eat food off the floor?


Can't they see there are tables? Or are they like "oh no BJ is coming hide the food somewhere"

>> No.3596576
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>>3596561
It's for the dogs. Ranks were kept hungry to increase the battle fierceness.

>> No.3596581

> 9th floor of 4th chapter
> level finished as the boss is killed
> can't pick up his rocket launcher and massacre the dozens of enemies tightly packed in the ammo room as a reward for killing the boss with no extra pick ups

Missed opportunity! Are there mods that add that rl?

>> No.3596591

>picking up snapmap
>shit like custom rooms with old doom textures is now possible
neato bandito.

>> No.3596656

So how do I turn off the gun sprites in PB? Can I even turn off everything?

>> No.3596701

>>3596656
r_drawplayersprites 0

>> No.3596704 [DELETED] 

>>3596701
Retard, I just want default sprites.

>> No.3596710

Where are saves in Heretic? How to use them with another port?

>> No.3596721

Is there smoothdoom for heretic?

>> No.3596732

>>3596247
Well? Post the wad.

>> No.3596734

>>3596710
>How to use them with another port?
Dude what

>> No.3596738

>>3596446
Includes it

>> No.3596739

>>3596704
what in his post warranted an insult

you weren't even clear what you meant. no, it's not possible as is. you'd have to make a custom sprite replacement wad yourself for use alongside it

>> No.3596752

Is it possible to have too many textures in a textures.txt ? Seems like whenever I add textures right now, the textures.txt comes out all fucked up.

>> No.3596756
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>>3596721
Yes.

>> No.3596761

>>3596247
>Caleb now has regenerating health (called "edge meter" in the game)
>You can enlarge your edge meter by kicking puppies and stealing candy from babies

>> No.3596773 [DELETED] 

>>3596734
Are you saying saves are glued to the port and you can't separate them from it?
>>3596739
Obviously I fucking meant I don't want those ugly-ass shit-weapons. Your post looked like a troll attempt. Also stop being a pussy and hidinig behind the third person.
>>3596756
> no download link

>> No.3596790

>>3596773

You're a dumbass.

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3596802

>>3596761
>stealing candy from babies
nah i'm good

>>3596773
>I don't want those ugly-ass shit-weapons

play traditional mode then.

>> No.3596848

>>3596802
I want some nice effects it has.

>> No.3596850
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3596850

> tfw literally almost dropped Heretic on the very level it gets interesting
e3m3

You can pretty much skip first two chapter, unless you're playing for the atmosphere or whatever.

>> No.3596854
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3596854

Why did no on tell me the creator of my favorite map in AV is dead? Died 5 years ago.

>> No.3596887

>>3596752

Well shit, that seems to be the case... My textures.txt file was 3445 lines long and adding anything corrupted it.

I made a second "textures.txt" and renamed the other "textures.uno" seems to work right now.

I may be creating a monster.

>> No.3596894 [DELETED] 

>>3596854
No one gives a fuck. Mappers are expendable.

>> No.3596897

>>3596894
fuck off

>> No.3596898

>>3596894
Fuck you, Espi was a treasure and we'll never have another Suspended In Dusk

>> No.3596912
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>>3593193
What are some good Doom episode one like megawads?

I'm playing through all sorts of mods and they often have things that replace the chaingunner or supershotty, so I'd want to load it with Doom 2, but I'd much prefer e1m1 style maps to test them on.

>> No.3596936

>>3595338
I personally find required jumping in doom maps feels too contrived. Like its a feature requirement they decided to have for the sake of having it. I also don't like how it feels overall in Doom's physics.

>> No.3596938

>>3595816
just about to post some this as I have been replaying Shadow Warrior
I love SW and Blood way more than Duke 3D, which is probably an unpopular opinion.

>> No.3596959

>>3596938
Not at all, most people know duke is shit and was always shit.

>> No.3596962

>>3596887
I had that when I, for testing purposes, imported several fully animated movies frame by frame as textures and animated them.
I also had a few custom decorations in that wad aswell.

loading up that .wad file would cause GZDoom to crap out on boot up, and every single texture and sprite would be replaced with only the first frame, and the TEXTURES file got replaced by the DECORATE file, which in turn got replaced by the ANIMDEFS file.

It was a fucking mess.

>> No.3596982

>>3596912

knee deep in zdoom xD

>> No.3596984

>finally play Thy Flesh Consumed after all these years
>nowhere near as atmospheric as the first 3 episodes

what gives?

feels more like a challenge wad than an actual continuation

>> No.3596991

Horror wad saves: nay or yay?

On one hand with nosave the stakes are higher which is conductive to the fear factor, but on the other hand constant repetition will make the level up to the dying point annoying which is the opposite of scary.

What you think?

>> No.3597000

>>3596984
Episodes 1-3 are the original episodes and were released for mail order in 1993 as "Doom". Episode 1 also had a shareware release.

Episode 4 was released in 1995, as part of the new retail release "The Ultimate Doom". People who already owned the mailorder version could download a free patch to get episode 4, however.

>> No.3597006

>>3595917
>Really objectives don't matter that much unless it's important to storytelling

I'll assume you didn't read anything before hand, don't notice that "find the exit" is an objective onto itself, and you just saw "OBJECTIVES" and had to post. The point is to create different kinds of playthroughs based on what the player accomplishes in each level. Don't want to fight the archvile in level 1? Ok, but don't expect the processing plant in level 2 to be open, and if the processing plant isn't opened, then you can't shut down the toxic sludge run-off, which leads to level 3 having a good deal extra damaging floors. There are multiple of these in each level that affect the next level, etc. Some people, like you, just want to run to the finish line as quickly as possible; that's fine, but things will be hard, you'll get kicked in the dick on a few occasions, and you'll probably get the bad ending.

And Cold as Hell would like to see you in his office after class.

>> No.3597007

>>3596991
There are a lot of opinions on save scumming, just do whatever you want.

>> No.3597026

>>3596984
I know right? Challenge wads without the SSG are slow paced and boring.

The only reason to play doom 1 is for the atmosphere and thy flesh consumed only has that in map 1

>> No.3597027

>>3596959
can we report people for bad opinions?

>> No.3597038

>>3597026
I feel even challenge wads WITH the ssg are tedious. The sheer amount of enemies with a lot of hp to burn down just bogs you down. Beating the boneheads 2 the punch gets real old when you do it dozens of times per map.

>> No.3597040
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3597040

>Find AEons of Death exists
>"Wow this is so big and has so much stuff"
>Keep seeing comments that call it "complete lunacy"
>Finally try it out for myself
>mfw

They were right. This is a whole new level of lunacy.

>> No.3597045

>>3597040
there's like 6 different aeods though, each with different gear and monsters.

also you ain't seen nothing yet, try Doomguy's Warzone Gold Edition.

>> No.3597050

>>3597038
I find non-challenge easy wads with the SSG are bland and mindless.

>> No.3597051

>>3597045
Six different AEoDs? Are you telling me that 6.06 isn't the latest, all-encompassing package?

Also, now that you mention it, I gotta see this Warzone Gold Edition thing.

>> No.3597056

>>3597038
this is why I find doom to be an acquired taste, and most mods that give this approach a far simpler alternative (like Russian Overkill to name one) to be looked down upon by some others. I guess the community has grown accustomed to seeing lots of enemies per encounter per map that they crucify anything that has to do with doom that either doesn't make use of that style of play, or affects it in any way.

>> No.3597060

>>3595209
Dou you will upload it to jewtube?

>> No.3597069

>>3597038
The main point behind the SSG was for the higher HP monsters, though. You don't know true tedium until you try dealing with them with only the regular shotgun.

And if you're talking about slaughtery kind of maps, then you should be relying more on rockets and cells anyway.

>> No.3597073

>>3597051
I played 4, 5 and 6, they all have different gear, monsters and even mechanics. I actually prefer v5's arsenal and bestiary over v6's by a lot, it even has things like type-specific monsters weaknesses (robot enemies are weak to explosives, humans are weak to bullets, demons are weak to magic etc.) and the monster item/weapon drop system is nice.

v6 is the one that lets you pick a theme for the monsters in the options menu so that it's not a mish mash (eg: mechanoids only) but I actually like the big monster mixup, then again I also watch saltybet a lot.

but yeah, play Warzone, it's the biggest mess of all.

>> No.3597083

>>3597056
The Doom weapons are made for the vanilla game, but all the most acclaimed custom mapsets have massively increased enemy counts and use the more tankier enemies on top of that. The vanilla difficulty level is too easy for people who've played a lot of Doom, but the hard maps use a lot of dick moves and copious amounts of barons, mancubi, etc to raise the challenge. The regular shotgun, the chaingun and the plasma rifle are just dogshit at that point, and the rocket launcher's blast radius gets eaten up too easily by wide enemies or is useless against cybers and masterminds. The chaingun especially suffers from the way the challenge is upped.

A lot of the time I start getting to the later maps of a megawad I'm just wishing that all my weapons were upgraded a tier like shotgun->ssg, including the ssg, so I could kill the enemies faster and just get it over with. Gameplay mods often go too far in the other direction and make the weapons TOO powerful.

>> No.3597086
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>> No.3597089
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3597089

> atmospheric wad
> comment section
>> HURR BORING 0/10

>> No.3597093

>>3597083
>comparing Plasma rifle to chaingun and regular shotgun
>and the rocket launcher's blast radius gets eaten up too easily by wide enemies

I get the feeling its more you're not good at utilizing your weapons effectively.

>> No.3597095

>>3597089
What wads are you talking about?

>> No.3597102

>>3597069
It's the awkward point where it's not quite slaughter yet, and they expect the player to use the SSG a lot.

>> No.3597110

>>3596310
This looks good, anon

>> No.3597113

>>3597102
So what maps are that? Most Plutonia-ish stuff don't limit your options to just SSG.

>> No.3597115

Why is the iron maiden SO FUCKING COOL

>> No.3597125

>>3597115
it's fantastic

>> No.3597126

>>3597093
The plasma rifle shares ammo with BFG, and as long as you have a BFG using the rifle is a waste. With the scale of the monster encounters they'll probably hand you the BFG in a timely fashion so you'll be done killing the enemies during this decade.

And you can't deny that arachnotrons and mancubi eat up those rockets by being fat fucks. I also forgot to mention that cacodemons are often given a lot of room to move and be blown around, so the rocket splash damage is diminished against them too.

None of those things actually become real problems in vanilla Doom maps because there aren't shitloads of enemies to kill.

>> No.3597127

>>3597095
Stuff like Arcadia and Asylum of the Wretched

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>>3597126
> as long as you have a BFG using the rifle is a waste
Look at this fucking noob

>> No.3597130

Only time I personally felt something was tedious were maps like Holy Hell, and Sunder map11, where it can truly reach a point where I'm like "you know what, fuck this" and quit before finishing.

>> No.3597136

>>3597130
don't play sunlust

>> No.3597142

>>3597129
no srsly when are you supposed to use the plasma rifle after you get the bfg? Its ridiculously more efficient

>> No.3597143

Vinesauce Doom Contest resuming tonight.

https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/793934210427973632

>> No.3597146

>>3595171
>>3593197
yet another D4D update, 2.02.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/d4d-doom4-for-doom/downloads/d4d-v20

>> No.3597151

>>3597142
The BFG is clunky as hell, only worth dragging out for massive crowds and bosses. Plasma Rifle is a solid jack of all trades that you can rely on to perform adequately in just about any situation a mapper could throw at you.

>> No.3597152

>>3597126
>The plasma rifle shares ammo with BFG, and as long as you have a BFG using the rifle is a waste
But it's so fun

>> No.3597163

>>3597159

I think he was asking when you're supposed to use the Plasma Rifle over the BFG; not the other way around.

>> No.3597165
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3597165

What in thirteen cthulian fucks is up with that ceiling.

>> No.3597168
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3597168

Is there any Zdoom mapset that does NOT use custom enemies? Or atleast keep them to a minimun?
It's so annoying that you can't play Zdoom mods with Zdoom maps, because most of them include monsters that aren't compatible with the gameplay mod you're using.
I think BD's Starterpack was relly good in that regard, but I played it so much I'm bored of it.

>> No.3597169

>>3597165
A classic case of over-detailing.

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3597172

Listening to a military sci fi audiobook just rekindled my interest in modding a bit. I'm thinking I'll pick up this power armor milsim project patterned after Terra Nova: SFC during the winter. Actually got the scrolling automap working for all resolutions just now.

Really looking forward to making a lot of autistic "realism" features, like sharing position and target data between squadmates being more important than aim or reactions.

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>>3597165

It's the 'blunderbuss approach' to level detailing.

>> No.3597178

>>3597165
>>3597174
needs more linedefs

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3597179

>>3597174

As a compostion, the eye is drawn all over the place, and as a result, you never get the sense of what anything actually IS, or where you need to go. It clashes stylistically, and it's a damn mess.

>> No.3597181

>>3597165
>>3597174
>>3597179
what wad

>> No.3597185

>>3597181

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49089

>> No.3597193

>>3597185
the ceiling and overly high walls definitely ruin it

>"I got inspiration from the 2016 doom"

hmm

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3597197

Can anyone please tell me the name of this map?

>> No.3597201

>open up the wrath of cronos pk3 to see how abilities and weapons interact with what stats
>mfw some of these calculations
>necromancer's summons melee damage uses strength
>warrior's weapon ranged attacks get buffed by intelligence and not strength or dexterity because they're technically magic
>hunter's ultimate weapon has a small random intelligence damage bonus in there
>hunter's fan of knives scales from dexterity and equally from both melee and range damage passive skills
>hunter's raven summon scales off dexterity which makes even less sense
>some abilities have unmentioned added powerups when they have enough levels
What did I just read

>> No.3597207

>>3597197
I'm pretty sure that's Alien Vendetta's map 20.

>> No.3597209

>>3597207
You are right. Thank you.

>> No.3597225

>>3597168
Try all of the DUMPs

>> No.3597240

>>3597142
Same as pistol and shotgun, except even more relevant: saves ammo. ACTUALLY SAVES AMMO.

>> No.3597250

>>3597240
>pistol and shotgun
>save ammo
Anon pls

>> No.3597252

>>3597250
try shooting single bullet from them retard

>> No.3597276

>>3597252
You do realize that nothing in the game dies from one pistol bullet, right? You do realize the chaingun does the same damage as the pistol and is actually MORE accurate because the first two shots are on target?
You do realize that the SSG magically gets more pellets per ammo spent, and your insane fringe scenario would only be relevant if the map consisted of dozens of encounters where you fight a single imp or a former human again and again in a row?

>> No.3597280

>>3597252
>fire shotgun once
>seven shots
>fire pistol once
>one shot
>one small shotgun ammo pickup = 4 shells = 28 shots
>one small pistol ammo pickup = 10 bullets = 10 shots
I'm not seeing it.

>> No.3597297

>>3597276
> You do realize that nothing in the game dies from one pistol bullet, right?
Everything that has 1 bullet hp left dies from 1 bullet.
> You do realize the chaingun does the same damage as the pistol and is actually MORE accurate because the first two shots are on target?
WASTE OF FUCKING AMMO IMMINENT
> You do realize that the SSG magically gets more pellets per ammo spent, and your insane fringe scenario would only be relevant if the map consisted of dozens of encounters where you fight a single imp or a former human again and again in a row?
You'd be surprised.

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> implying it's not the coolest thing ever

>> No.3597308

>>3597301
ive never understood what that's supposed to be? Why is it crushing the floor of a basement that's already made with rooms and everything? It's not like its drilling a hole.

>> No.3597313

>>3597308
Basement is made from the other way. It's like cave drilling only downwards and outside.

>> No.3597314

whats the best doom song and why is it kitchen ace?

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3597318

>>3597165
>>3597174
>>3597179
>This is the same person that made Putrefier
What happened?

>> No.3597326

>>3597318
They're both shit maps so it makes sense.

>> No.3597328

>>3597314
It's actually this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHZr3TMjYDY

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>>3597314
>anything other than I sawed the demons
What's it like having such shit taste?

>> No.3597331

>>3597314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

>> No.3597332

>>3597136
Sunlust is nowhere near like those two examples. Holy Hell and Sunder map11 are overly lenthy repetitive monotonous slogs. Sunlust more reminds me of Speed of Doom, in that the levels are generally standard length, and never have encounters overstay their welcome for me.

>> No.3597336

>>3597329
>that doot doot midi trump solo

>> No.3597337

>>3597314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34N_D2ecAFc

>> No.3597341

>>3597331
This song STILL gives me fuckin' chills man. Just you, a few lost souls and a cyber demon. Definitely a bad ass moment.

>> No.3597342

>>3597314

Does TNT music count? Because I love Death's Bells.

>> No.3597346

>>3597337
we tend to forget how amazing the sound track was to such a shit wad.

>> No.3597349

>>3597346
Still better than Plutonia.

>> No.3597352

>>3597172
Was it The Forever War? That book is as pretty good military sci fi read. Has mech suits.

Dunno if there is an audiobook version though.

>> No.3597353

>>3597349
But Plutonia is way better, it's why everyone remembers it and played it on servers nonstop back in the ZDaemon days a decade ago.

>> No.3597357

>>3597172
Oh. Also, keep up the power armor project. Shit looks neat.

>> No.3597360

NEW THREAD

>>3597354
>>3597354
>>3597354

NEW THREAD

>> No.3597362

>>3597349
>>3597346
I like both pretty much equally. They have their faults, but they're still a lot of fun, and there are some neat gimmicks in there.

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>>3597342
Death's Bells is the fucking SHIT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Be7ZoJjPoI

I also love AimShootKill and Lets Kill At Will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cobTfz-1VBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haqet7XKAos

TNT had really groovy music in general.
My favorite remix/cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYu7a68XGw

>> No.3597364

>>3597346
>>3597349
>tfw I love both Final Doom iwads

>> No.3597368

>>3597346
I think TNT in general is better than 2/3rds of Doom 2

>> No.3597372

>>3597360
We're only on page 4, though...

>> No.3597409

>>3597201
>some abilities have unmentioned added powerups when they have enough levels

Care to elaborate further on what you have found; especially this little tid bit here?

>> No.3597431

>>3597314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HZEF6Ujsl0
Love this song.

>> No.3597465

>>3597301
Doom 64 overall is the coolest thing ever.
I like it a bit more than classic Doom.

>> No.3597516

>>3597165
>>3597174
>>3597179
This almost makes me want to start a little "No Detailing" map compilation where the objective is to make the best gameplay without any visual distractions to color players' opinions of the gameplay.

Holy fuck it runs at like 25FPS

>> No.3597627

>>3597516
Completely bare maps are just utterly unfun to play, I mean, did you see a bunch of the submissions to Vinesauce Joel's contest? The early ones were tripe in more ways than just gameplay.

What you should do instead is to insert a limit, like a room can only feature one to three kinds of detailing, like maybe a room can have fancy indented walls with lights at the bottom (to contrast with the lighting in the room), and then it can have either a carpet, or a skylight, but it can then not add computer panels or pipes on the walls. Or a hallway, it can have carpeting and ceiling lights, but then not piping or stuff.

Detail, but minimalist.

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Working on a new enemy. This is one nasty little bugger - you thought Basilisks were bad? those bug eyed fuckers don't have shit on wormy mcsquirmy here.

>> No.3598286

>>3597308
Its the Terraformer - and the name of the map

>> No.3598321

>>3598236
And here's a video for you all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cfiz1BU8w

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