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What is positively the most essential and most complete Dragon Quest experience??? Can you give me a brief lowdown?

>> No.3581730

Try to be as Japanese as possible. Imagine yourself as an Japanese boy in the late Showa era with no prior experience with RPGs or the like.

>> No.3581767

Nevermind, puta.

>> No.3581779

Messing around with DQ7 after the beating the game and I have some plot questions.

Is Faraday's past ever expanded on? Does it have anything to do with why they were removed by Orgodemir? Why can't I visit Faraday as part of the victory tour if the game just resets to before the final boss anyways? What was the deal with the Blood Rubies? What's the deal with this mirror thing I found in Orgodemir's palace? Why did they show me random monsters like the cloak and devil when going to Buccanham's past?

Those are the immediate concerns I have, and I don't see how the game is going to answer those, because I don't see a lot of post game wiggle room beyond the bonus dungeon stuff.

>> No.3582198

Is playing 1+2 on GBC considered a decent version?

>> No.3582207

1-3 on SNES or GBC. Everything else on the DS and 3DS systems.

>> No.3582220


I'd personally go for the SNES versions of the first three games. Especially 3.

It helps that fans translated them so that the script isn't that forced shakespearian shit.

>> No.3582414

tfw Dragon Quest Thread is dead and I haven't made a new one yet because I'm not sure if there's enough interest

I+II GBC is just a downport of the SNES version. Same with III, except with a little more bonus content. So go with SNES

>> No.3582435

The fan patch broke the game though.
Play it in Japanese if you can. If you can't read Japanese, learn it for a while and then use the series as reading practice.

>> No.3582440

I'd recommend one of the DS SNES remake trilogy (IV-VI) first.

IX is really good too, it has more content than most other DS games.

The series has some connected locations and stuff but it's so minor that it can actually be hard to notice.

>> No.3582456

Cool, thanks, Im gonna try the SNES version, I've been playing the GBC version but didn't know if it was drastically different.

>> No.3582508

None. They're all shit.

>> No.3582687

Truthfully, the snes and gbc versions are pretty much identical minus the obvious graphic and sound differences.

Go with SNES if you prefer great visuals and sound, go with GBC if you have nostalgia for the Gameboy era. The GBC version arguably feels the least clunky since all the actions can be done with the A button, and because of the faster walking speed, so there's that, too.

The thing about DQIII in particular is that the original NES version still holds up as a great NES rpg (even if it's extremely clunky,) and the SNES remake feels like an above average SNES rpg, but the GBC demake of the SNES remake is easily the best traditional Rpg on the GBC. It's worth playing that version if you were ever really into your Gameboy.I

>> No.3582695

I was waiting for a new thread. Was wondering if it was worth it to grind to beat the bonus dungeons, or should I just move on.

>> No.3582698

Are there any guides on DQ7 that doesn't use the old PSX version?

>> No.3582701

and this is DQ7

>> No.3582706

The best fights in Dragon Quest games are usually the final bosses and bonus bosses. So yeah, I would say go for it. Just find something to listen or watch while you're doing it. Shouldn't be outrageously long unless you need to job grind to the max. If you have another game that you're dying to play though, you should probably just play that first, and then come back later when you've got nothing else to play.

It's been about a week since the last thread died, so either this thread will take off or I can make a new Dragon Quest Thread after this thread dies. We'll see.

>> No.3582753

Just use the psx guides. You can usually decipher the name differences.

I guess I'll do it. Do I need every job or just get everybody to Champion or something and level grind?

>> No.3582757

cool contribution dude

>> No.3582812

No problem man.

>> No.3582847

>The fan patch broke the game though.
which and how so

>> No.3582893
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I had Dragon Warrior 1, 2, and 3 on my NES as a kid, and I think Dragon Warrior 3 will always be my favorite. Just so much content and playing as Erdrick was pretty cool. Plus I could be a girl too, which before the sexes were hard set.

>> No.3582904
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>play as a girl
>still the son of ortega

>> No.3582907
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Yeah... the feels never end...

On the bright side, that was fixed in the BG and SNES versions.

>> No.3582923

Do you really consider this a good route to both learning and understanding the game? Is learning "a bit" of japanese then jump straight to a game a good idea?
I'm planning on doing this with another game that has small kana over kanji symbols (Digimon World ReDigitize Decode, not retro), and I already started with some basic japanese, so I'd like to hear similar experiences

>> No.3583051

1+2 at least. On occasions the dialog will loop endlessly.

>> No.3583092


>> No.3583192

It's always good to try. See how far you have progressed and where you need to improve. If it doesn't work at all you can always go back to studying and return at a later point.
These games are made for children so they won't have too many complex words or sentences.

>> No.3583330

I think 3 was the pinnacle of the franchise to be honest. I mean 8's characters and stuff were neat, but the battle system had barely evolved even by then.

The over world music in 1 is still the best. Humble yet epic... Actually I think the whole game fits that description, which made it very endearing despite how grindy it gets.

2 is okay but forces you to play with premade characters. It feels about twice as long as the first one. There is a boat this time, wee.

3 lets you choose your own party members and switch them out mid-adventure with a bunch of classes to choose from.

4 is compromised of 'episodes' where you play as 1 or 2 characters at a time, until they all eventually meet up with the hero. You even play as a store owner in one section. It was a fun twist on the usual formula.

5 had you start off as a kid and then grow up and play as an adult with your own kids in your party. Also I THINK you could capture the monsters and add them to your party. It was cute. Also slavery.

I had gotten several hours into a fan translation of 6, but it didn't really stand out as something different or new for the series to me.

Haven't played 7 but I hear it's huge, and the first 3d entry in the series, much like ff7.

8 has the most well defined characters/plot I think... and crafting... and boobies. I remember it being hard as fuck in the beginning though.

I played and beat 9 for DS... I think it let you build your own team like 3, but I can't even remember... meh.


Play the SNES remakes if you play 1-3.
4 has a Playstation remake which looks real nice as well.

>> No.3583998

>made for children so they won't have too many complex words or sentences.

While I haven't played these games in particular, in general this is wrong. While the subject matter of children's ententertainment tends to be simple, it often uses more complex vocabulary than day to day conversation or even adult literature (sorce: worked in early education for a few years and read childish manga sometimes).

In japanese especially, you'll find that if there are furigana, some writers see that as an excuse to use obscure kanji, readings, and vocabulary. I would expect that in Dragon Quest, you would encounter lots of terms for european nobility, weapons, and religious concepts that will be unfamiliar, as well as japanese accents that will be difficult to decipher if you aren't very comfortable with the language.

But I hear that DQ 1 is pretty slow and repetitive, so a beginner should be able to get through it if they try.

>> No.3584012

As someone who has played through Dragon Quest I-VI in Japanese, I can tell you that Dragon Quest I-III have very basic sentence structure and vocabulary. Most of the NPCs are just there to provide direction or give a little backstory to the town you're in, or to give hints for the location of an important item or place.

Dragon Quest games aren't a bad place to start if you're learning Japanese. If you're going to play a game in Japanese, make sure it has Kanji in it. Do not fall into the trap of only playing games that only use Hiragana and Katakana. You don't even need to know any Kanji before you play a game with Kanji in it either. When I encounter Kanji I don't know, I take a picture of the screen with my phone and translate it using google translate. It's pretty simple. Radical search takes too damn long.

You really just need to make sure you know Hiragana and Katakana before you jump into one of these games. Yeah, it'll take a while, but practice makes perfect. JRPGs are usually the best video game genre for practicing language anyway

>> No.3584042

>you would encounter lots of terms for european nobility, weapons, and religious concepts
And then you learn those words as they will be more useful to you than day to day content. A word like 異端 isn't that hard to remember. Concepts like heresy shouldn't be hard to grasp for an adult.

Tengai Makyo is a series were you will find unusual readings and difficult puns but that's really more of an exception than the rule.
Furigana or obscure kanji will normally be prevented by technical hurdles on retro systems.

>> No.3584104

>Not Stoli

>> No.3584121

I've never seen a series ranking be so wrong before.

>> No.3584195
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Bikini Roto is cute!!

>> No.3584245

"bikini" mage is definitely the cutest despite not being an actual bikini

>> No.3584253

Fighter is also absolutely adorable, looks like a little girl on the beach

>> No.3584269


There's a patch that fixes that bug.


>> No.3584358

Really don't like how DQ7 keeps on fucking my party around. I don't like Mervyn, and I definitely don't like this new dancer bitch. It keeps replacing characters I liked and had a connection with for characters that I just met, forced their way into my party, and I don't give a shit about at all and have no personality whatsoever.

>> No.3584416

I agree on your 2nd point but if you hate Mervyn and think he's bland then you have absolutely no taste. I do miss Kiefer though

>> No.3584435 [DELETED] 

I can't stop masturbating to pictures of Jennifer Connelly someone help

>> No.3584445 [DELETED] 

Paper-cut your dick.

You're welcome.

>> No.3584478


I'm mostly just mad about losing Maribel. And then as if that wasn't enough, this new bitch comes in and goes YOUR ADVENTURE IS ABOUT ME NOW! LET'S GO FIND THE STUFF I WANNA DO! To say nothing of the fact that she's a roamer and I'm still annoyed about them taking Kiefer away pointlessly.

>> No.3584487

Yeah, I'd rather have Maribel over her. Pretty much every party member is more likeable. It hurts even more that you lost Kiefer for her.

>> No.3584494

If you don't like Cool Grandpa I don't know what I can do about your poor taste.

>> No.3584528

Use party chat and you will like him.

>> No.3585305

>the GBC demake of the SNES remake is easily the best traditional Rpg on the GBC.
I'd say that this honor belongs to Lufia TLR.

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Are there any balancing differences between the SFC, PS2 and DS versions of Dragon Quest 5? Is one of them easier?

>> No.3585864

In SFC you only get three party members as opposed to PS2 and DS, so it's automatically the hardest (but there are more enemies in each battle in the remakes to compensate)

You can recruit about 40 monsters in the SFC version, while you can recruit about 70 in the PS2 and 2 more than that in the DS version.

Also you get a bag to hold all your items in the remakes. It's not in the SFC version.

Overall PS2 and DS are less difficult than the SFC version (enemies have less hp and give more gold/exp)

>> No.3587098

The newer, the easier. The original version has a three-man party all remakes have a four-man party, so it's more like a brand new game with reused plot and maps.

>> No.3587116

If anyone wants to see the previous Dragon Quest Thread, you can find it here. It has a handy FAQ about Dragon Quest that I made.

I'm trying to play through Dragon Quest Monsters GBC, but I'm seriously stuck at the A rank tournament. I can beat the first round easily, but then in the next round with the two grizzlies they do insane damage to my party and they have multiheal, so any damage I do to them is negated.

Would it be worth it to just start breeding boss monsters at this point if I use a guide? My only problem is that it requires so much breeding and the catch rates in this game are frustratingly low.

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>> No.3587736

Why does SFC DQ 5 have a three man party anyway? DQ 3 and 4 had four people

>> No.3587741

I'm OK with this, but mentioning others that there are disagreements about would've been nice. Like the GBC version of 3 having more postgame content.

>> No.3587747

Could've been RAM limits.

>> No.3587750

The popular theory is that ChunSoft had trouble with the jump from FC to SFC, so they had to limit the party size to 3 when developing Dragon Quest V. That's probably why Enix switched developers from ChunSoft to Heartbeat, which would explain the drastic graphical and technical difference between Dragon Quest V and VI.

To be fair, unless you love being a completionist, the extra postgame content is total shit. I'm planning on doing it after I beat Dragon Quest Monsters, but I can't imagine that spending hours and hours grinding for medals is fun for most people.

>> No.3587751

Original. 3-person party. 2D.

Completely 3D, looks beautiful. Has some new improvements that previous games had like most remakes. 4-person party.

2.5D-ish like IV and VI. Has all enhancements of those due to being on the same engine. First officially translated version. Also introduces a new bride who is funny as fuck in the party chat.

>> No.3587754

Also what I mean by "2.5D-ish" is that it runs with sprites on a polygon background, similar to BoF3 or the Pokemon games of the time.

>> No.3587783

>best version
>fan translation
>fan translation
>only version with party chat
That's not what best means. Maybe good enough for illiterates.

>> No.3587792

Best version of Dragon Quest IV is the Japanese DS version, fuck your mobile shit.

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I wonder if 1+2 SFC really is the best version. It does have the sweetest castle and overworld themes though.

>> No.3587986

Wow, how can a simple fan translation patch fuck the game up that much? I played the Japanese version on console so that image is really amusing to me.

>> No.3587990

They thought it was a good idea to allow longer character names.

>> No.3587997

Easier than you think.
You generally have to do a lot more than just translate the text when making these patches.

>> No.3588504

Anyone got .cia files for a hacked N3DS for the Japanese SNES versions of Dragon Quest I-III?

Been looking around, and I can't find shit.

>> No.3588526

Why do you need a .cia? Shouldn't a regular SNES rom be sufficient?

>> No.3588537

I could run it on a homebrew emulator, but the SNES emulator that Nintendo uses for N3DS is pretty good and has a pixel perfect mode.

>> No.3588546

Your best bet for a .cia would be if they were released on Virtual Console for 3DS in Japan, which they aren't. You can keep looking but I doubt you'll find anything.

>> No.3588551

I'm back at square 1, then. First place I had checked was the Japanese VC, since my system is a Japanese one.

I wonder why there are no Dragon Quest games on the virtual console?

>> No.3588556

pixel perfect mode is a marketing term for the games being able to play in their native resolution with no warping.
Which is possible with any SNES emulator on 3DS because 3DS has a higher resolution than SNES.

>> No.3588782

Does party order or gender matter in Dragon Warrior III? Just curious. I started out a part with a fem hero, fem mage, male cleric, and male warrior and don't know if I've fucked up, or if my party order (hero, warrior, Cleric, Mage) matters.

>> No.3588785

Gender matters, particularly in the SFC remake where girls get to wear bikinis.
Party order can be changed later anyway.

>> No.3588787

I'm playing the SFC version actually. I don't care about the bikinis though.

>> No.3588795

Why not? They offer good protection.

>> No.3588802

Oh, I thought you meant there are just asthetic bikinis. They're more powerful..? Sigh.. good. Someone was really programming with their dick that day.

>> No.3588828

There's some female exclusive equipment that's very good, but it's not absolutely necessary to beat game. Also there are some gender specific personality types, most don't matter but Sexy Gal is pretty much the best personality type in the game for stat growth. But again it's not absolutely vital to have that. If you're trying to min/max the game, an all female party is best, but if you're just playing the game for fun pick whatever gender characters you want.

Party order does matter in regards to who get's hit more often in battle. You want your high HP/Def characters up front.

>> No.3588893 [SPOILER] 
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The Sun Seal was supposed to be in the Flame Shrine, a "blazing hot place".

Why the hell is it here?

>> No.3589454

That spot is the blazing hot core of the game designers hatred for you and everyone else who plays the game.

>> No.3589478 [SPOILER] 
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Nah, that would be this spot right here.

>> No.3589610

I've only gone through the first four games, but in my experience, the remakes aren't necessarily better. I started off only playing the remakes, but I eventually tried the originals and found I enjoyed them a lot more.

Added content and updated graphics/mechanics are nice, but not essential. There's a lot to be enjoyed from the original games, and something to be said about playing the "true" original version (especially for "retro" enthusiasts).

>> No.3589616

Exactly! I loved it when my characters all attack empty air after I've already killed an enemy. Why the fuck did they remove that feature?

>> No.3589625

I don't remember having issues with that rank and I didn't use boss monsters. It's possible to breed some really powerful non-boss shit, you just have to explore your options a bit.

And make sure you're using the best meat you can afford when you're capturing things. I feel like Sirloin usually had a 50% success rate.

>> No.3589626

>and something to be said about playing the "true" original version (especially for "retro" enthusiasts).
The important part to the true experience is playing them in Japanese. Everything else is just mockery.

>> No.3589631

This anon speaks the truth.

>> No.3589636

Yeah, that's archaic, but I never found it to be a big issue. It actually makes you think about what you should target rather than vacantly mashing the attack command.

Good point. But I'm a lazy filthy gaijin, so this is "true" enough for me.

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I legit searched for a week to find a jail key. I refused to listen to the guy saying a shop has it. Mfw he was right all along.

>> No.3589692

>so this is "true" enough for me.
The North American NES releases, especially DW1 and 2, are pretty far from the original Famicom games.

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>> No.3589816

What, did you think he was lying or something? The directions that NPCs give in Dragon Quest I-III are generally straight-forward.

>> No.3589845

to be honest I searched for this shop at first, but the part I didn't immediately grasp is that it wasn't some hidden shop I haven't found yet but in fact a regular shop in disguise.

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>month and a half later
>finally managed to find a copy of Dragon Quest VII
>everyone else is already finished

>> No.3590291

GBC is on par with it. Mobile versions of 1-3 ended up terrible because they used a shitty old mobile versions, unlike 4-6 which were straight ports of DS.

>> No.3590302


See, most times the script is long done and translated while we wait on the hack work. This is because you're not only editing in the text but every single event and text-related graphic in the game, plus dealing with the RAM and... generally everything but the text in the end. There's a reason why places like AGTP take so long to put out decent work.

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Anyone have any good DQ wallpapers?

Most of what I can find are those weird official ones Nintendo put out with the DS remakes of 4-6.

>> No.3590428

DQ games are weird. They seem like they *should* be fun, but they always end up being the most boring games ever created.

>> No.3590495

1 on NES

3, 5 on SNES

>> No.3590516

You could still learn the language.
It significantly improves the games at your disposal.

>> No.3590565

It was just trying to be different. Any and all theories are wrong. The battles take place in first person and you cannot see your party, an extra member would not have been any trouble at all. There was no reason there could not have been a 4-man party, they just didn't want to, the end.

>> No.3590986

Took me like a month of on and off play. Still need to do the bonus dungeons.

>> No.3591043

Should I henshin like a good boy or should I join Shocker instead?

>> No.3591076

Don't worry anon, I got it the day after launch day and I'm only at the island with the dragon tower. I'm slow with my RPGs.

>> No.3591136

I've had it pirated since before launch only getting my physical copy a week ago because it was sold out fucking everywhere and I still haven't finished it, so you're good, anon.

>> No.3591238

Only ADHD retards don't play the games in release order. If you're too lazy to play the original then why are you even on this board?

>> No.3591362

Shocker aren't really Japanese.

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And i'm about to drop it. Is long as fuck, but i'm not really enjoying it. This summer i played through DQVI, demonized by most people, but i enjoyed it. The problem with DQ VII to me is that every quests looks the same because of the shard system, whereas previous installments had a clearer epic journey look.

>> No.3591504

The enjoyment for me comes from seeing the world take shape from your journeys through time. Especially those parts in the past where the island connects to one you've already saved and you learn a bit more about them. Kind of wished the victory tour at the end would be longer

>> No.3592307

> every quest looks the same

But that's not true at all.

>> No.3593861

Thanks for the advice. I did a lot of breeding to get my monsters to +10, but I didn't end up making the boss monsters. I had to grind for a bit, but I finally beat that fight and A rank.

How fucking bullshit is that first S rank fight though? Seriously, I had to reset the game multiple times because my party got wiped on the first turn from the Dance of Death. If I didn't save the game beforehand and had to pay 10k every time, I'd be fucking pissed.

>> No.3594104

Playing the first game at the moment. Should I buy the magic armor?

>> No.3594217

not worth it imo

>> No.3594989

Just finished Dragon Warrior 1 on GB and it was such a relaxing game. I did do some grinding but the overall pace felt pretty quick. Liked the lack of hand holding too, I usually ignore NPC's but having to talk to people until you got that 1 bit of info you needed felt like you really are on an adventure to stop the DragonLord. This was one of the few times I used a notebook to jot town locations and important facts.

Hope 2 isn't a pile of shit. So far it feels a lot more open ended than it's predecessor

>> No.3595216

2 is nice, even though the second half is rushed and throws you many curveballs.

>> No.3595593

2 is 1, but more, for better and worse. Keep that notebook handy and prepare for 2/3 of your team to not be helpful for a good chunk of the game.

>> No.3597171

I think VIII is the best. Classic DQ story and gameplay with the added benefit of good graphics. That game is classic JRPG heaven to me

>> No.3597494

I honestly prefer the GBC version of I to the SNES version, if only because it actually feels like it could be a NES conversion.

>> No.3597512

What a fucking mistake that was, considering 6 was such a bore. And then 7 went right back to being technically unimpressive but loaded with content.

>> No.3597583

It's not Heartbeat's fault, y'know. They didn't write and direct the game. They only programmed it.

>> No.3598189

But that's wrong, the music in the DS version is fucking low quality garbage thanks to the DS being a piece of shit. Mobile version is OBJECTIVELY the best.

>> No.3598358

Dragon Quest VIII confirmed for January 20th

>> No.3598413

Mobile games aren't even real games.

>> No.3598438

What about the PS1? What does mobile have that the PS1 DQ4 doesn't. The differences between PS1 and DS are minor.
Don't say translation.

>> No.3598446

I finally got a PS4 a few days ago, and while browsing through PSN, I noticed that PS4 has a small selection of PS2 classics in the store.

Since it seems like this generation they've decided Sony systems are the one getting new DQ games, what are the chances of DQVIII finally getting a digital release on PSN?

>> No.3598641

>Since it seems like this generation they've decided Sony systems are the one getting new DQ games
But that's completely false. Dragon Quest XI will be on Nintendo Switch as well as PS4. And they're still making a lot of new Dragon Quest spinoff games + Dragon Quest XI for 3DS.

Chances of PS2 DQVIII getting a digital release on PSN are slim to none because Square Enix prefers to remake Dragon Quest games rather than re-releasing them.

>> No.3598808

VIII's battle camera is pretty bad though.

>> No.3598987

I think the keyword here is new
3DS has gotten more remakes than actual new titles.

>> No.3599005

It's retarded to discuss this in the first place because Dragon Quest has no publisher favoritism at all. It just goes on the most popular system for the most part.

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>What is positively the most essential and most complete Dragon Quest experience???
Playing all the games in release order.

If you're asking for one game which I consider the pinnacle of what Dragon Quest did well, it would be Dragon Quest VIII. Only thing it lacks from the other games is parcheesi and classes.

>> No.3599076


I still haven't even finished it. I just got done with the final tablet area and still don't have Maribel.

And now I have to rush to finish it before Dragon Quest VIII comes out.

>> No.3599363

I'd like to add that if you're really into retro games, DQI-VI on their original consoles will (for the most part) all feel more fun and look better than their respective FF counterparts, but the remakes are leagues better than the FF remakes.

>> No.3599419

I forgot how short most of the older ones used to be actually. Most of the series can be beaten in under 12 hours. After 7 they made sure they were much longer.

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You mean with DQVII, the longest in the series.

>finally Disk 2

>> No.3599659

How do I get my party to equip better stuff in Dragon Quest 7. When I change the vocation of my party to like a warrior they can't equip heavy armor and stuff. Is equipment forever tied to a characters personality? I'm playing the 3ds version btw

>> No.3599661


Your characters always equip the same stuff, regardless of class. The hero and Ruff are the only ones who can use boomerangs. And always can equip them regardless of class.

Are you mixing up DQVII and IX?

>> No.3599678

Nope you answered my question.
Sucks though. Wish there was an alchemy pot so I could do something with all the worthless trash I keep finding in pots and closets.

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>70 hours into the game
>open a cupboard
>you found a pointy hat!

This game out of any DQ game kind of mocks you with the items. But still, you can sell them. Last time I stopped to sell duplicates, I got 30,000 gold.

Also, DQVIII started alchemy so yeah. The games before don't have that. After playing DQVIII, you start to miss the things it did.

>> No.3599691

Normally the remakes add new mechanics but I guess this is one of those that would kinda break the game.

>> No.3600058

The oly one i'v played is V in English and I loved it. I am struggling a bit with IX in Japanese. Can someone recommend me a good starting point on 3ds or ds for playing in Japanese. Are the 3ds titles easier to read the furigana? They are pixelated to the point of being illegible in IX

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Currently playing through DQ VI and VII simultaneously. Oh man, do these games feel samey. Heart Beat I guess only really knew one formulas, with slight variation.

Unlocking classes 20 hours into the game is a bad idea.

Anyway, I think I prefer VII so far, even though I can't tell if Maribel actually cares for the towns we save or is just there because it's not like she likes the Hero or anything.

Also VI, just defeated Mudraw in the real world, fucked up recruiting the optinal party member that turns into a monster, and just visited Alltrades to get my vocations.

I assume now its just wander the world map right? Should I focus more on Dream or Real world?

VII I'm enjoying more, at least I never wonder what the hell to do next, but I do enjoy the cast more in VI. Milly and Ashlynn are top tier waifus. Especially Ashlynn.

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The technically unimpressive is totally Heart Beats fault. Considering that FF9 and 10 was surrounding DQ 7's release, and DQ 7's spirtes wouldn't be impressive even on SFC, yeah, it was dated.

>> No.3601658

I wouldn't recommend wandering the world map at this time until you get better vehicles, since a lot of both of the worlds are closed off. The next place you have to go in VI is a kingdom to the right of the town where Amos is. Once you get there, the game becomes more linear again, and you'll know where to go for the most part.

I hope you were enjoying Dragon Quest VI up to this point, because you're about to enter the filler arc of the game. It's a fucking pain to play through, especially if you're playing VII at the same time.

>> No.3601690

The furigana is definitely easier to read on the 3DS games, but it's not impossible on the DS games. You just have to get used to it.

The DS remakes do not have any furigana whatsoever, but I think most of the 3DS games have furigana.

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>filler meme.

Well, just like the fucking rest of the game: you go to town, then move to dungeon, and so on. Muh 'lack of incentive' meme have to die. It is technically the same mechanics and the same game that the rest of the saga. If you actually care for the plot, you'd be playing FF instead.

It is not filler, it is the most epic part of the game. Crearly, people spreading this cancer doesn't understand what the DQ experience is about.

>> No.3601727

>>filler meme.
Not him but I didn't even know this was a meme until today when I looked up your complaints. I just thought of it as more game to play. Just goes to show that if a stupid term buzzes around people will flock to it. Christ.

>> No.3601745

>If you actually care for the plot, you'd be playing FF instead.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You think that there aren't Dragon Quest games with a good plot? The fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.3602006

Was going to get Dragon Quest 2,3,4 and Famicom Faxanadu yesterday from a retro game store but ultimately passed on them. Barring the fact I cannot into moon I thought if I did get them I could use an online guide. Did I gouf?

>> No.3602062

There are an abundance of guides and maps for the DQ games, you would have been totally okay playing them that way imo. If the price was good and maybe you're some kind of Famicom collector, it might have been a good deal.

>> No.3602070

The Famicom Dragon Quest games aren't exactly abundant online. If you're serious about reading moon, get them. If not, pass.

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You fucking imbecile. DQ V's plot is better than any Final Fantasy.

Doesn't excuse VI having awkward structure. II get's criticism for the same thing.

>> No.3602180

I think you replied to the wrong person, mate.

>> No.3602189

Well, Horii agrees with me that it sucks, and I'm pretty sure he's more of an expert on what the "DQ experience is about" than you. So frankly, you can go fuck yourself.

>> No.3602218

Wow rude

>> No.3602431

>If you can't read Japanese, just learn it and try again.

>> No.3602452

Yeah, pretty much. GET GOOD, 外人!

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>> No.3602739

Wrong. If you don't play the originals first, you belong in /v/. And by the originals, I mean of course the Japanese versions, not the butchered localization.

>> No.3602897

Was Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart ever translated?

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>> No.3605571

Dragon Quest 7 is my first DQ game, and it's the best RPG I have ever played. The world building, music, gameplay, it's all stellar. And now I'm hearing some of the other titles are even better. I'm almost done with 7, but once I finish I am starting IV-VI on the DS. How the hell did I skip this series for so long?

>> No.3605698

>on the DS
Don't do this to yourself

>> No.3605768

>on the DS
Fucking do it

>> No.3605772

Only the overseas DS versions are shit.

>> No.3605817

not even remotely true

>> No.3605917

For IV it definitely is. They left out half of the script and rewrote the rest with retarded dialects in mind.

>> No.3605962

5 too. Bianca's speech is completely ruined just to shill that fanfic-tier Deborah.

>> No.3606038

Can someone tell me what the point of all the questions in DQIII is?

Do they determine your stats or something?

>> No.3606108

they determine your personality, which determines stat growth

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Good man. DQ V is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, and IV is no slouch either.

I'd also recommend I and III on the GBC. Games are perfect to play on the go. And III is surprisingly solid for a GBC title. This thread will try to move you towards SNES. The translation is a little lacking, however if you prefer to be tied down to a single area, it might be better.

On my end I have a DS flash cart that emulates GBC personally, being able to play 1-6 on one console was glorious.

>> No.3606228

>implying you can't make SNES games portable

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>Implying you can do so reliably.
Don't fucking throw PSP at me SNES is shit on it.

>> No.3606256

3ds snes emulation is great. Snes on psp isn't much worse thant gb on nds.

>> No.3606562

You've got an official Nintendo emulator on 3DS. All ya gotta do is inject the rom.

>> No.3607049

>Playing DQM2
>Kameha is a useless dick everytime he shows up so far

Does it ever change

>> No.3607216

>This thread will try to move you towards SNES
That's because it's the better game. Translation might suck but I played the Japanese version anyway so it doesn't really matter to me.

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The translation is fine. Better than Anglo Saxon shit at the very least.

The bugs suck though. Gotta make frequent save states.

>> No.3607628

I didn't run into a single bug.

>> No.3607739

I like the SNES DQ version. This is kind of a low bar, but it's the best fan-translation of a game I've ever played. The GBC versions are fine, and they have official translations, but the names of items and monsters being condensed because of character space triggers my autism for some reason.

The only bug I'm aware of in the translated SNES version is that the Merchant's appraise ability is broken and gives you wrong information most of the time. But that's a pretty minor thing.

>> No.3607787

>SNES is shit on it.
There are plenty of SNES games that run like dogshit on PSP, but all the DQ games I've tried run fine. Just finished the SFC version of III and it was great. A few minor battle animation glitches, but nothing that took away from the overall experience.

I still wouldn't suggest PSP if you're mainly interested in portable SNES emulation, but the DQ games are an nice exception. That said, PSP is great for a shitload of other things.

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I'm playing DQIII right now and I just got to the dragon boss that's in Japan and man... I'm just getting rekt. Guess it's time for more grinding... Oh I can make a sage now at the Shrine of Dharma. Is this worth it? Kinda hesitant to give up literally *20* levels of Exp...

>> No.3607793

Should have specified, I'm playing the SNES version. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

>> No.3607796

SNES on Vita or 3DS

>> No.3607803

Class changed characters start with 50% the stats they had before changing, which makes them considerably stronger than they originally were at level one, and add your better equipment to that and they'll still hold their own against the monsters outside the shrine. You can level them up pretty quickly.

But I'd need to know what party you currently have to say if a Sage is worth it.

>> No.3607805

Class changing is not necessary but there can be benefits. Also, while the character does return to level 1, their stats are only halved, meaning that they're not completely useless. Plus, they'll level up fairly quick for a while.

Finally: Orochi is basically when the game starts to get serious.

>> No.3607808

I have a female hero, a male warrior, a male cleric, and a female mage.

I managed to kill him once, but got rekt on the second fight. Do I just need to grind a shit ton or what?

>> No.3607830

I'm guessing you took the pre-made characters from the start of the game? That's a solid team so you'll be fine if you don't class change. If you really want to you could change the mage, offensive magic a little less useful late in the game, and you'll get a back-up healer and a boost in physical power. But you should still be okay if you don't change anyone.

>> No.3607834

I did not. I made custom characters and rolled for better stats.

>> No.3607860
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I'm going to start DQV soon and wondered what version everyone recommends. So far I've beaten GBC I&II, SFC III and NES IV. I dabbled with DS IV but found the localization obnoxious so I went back to NES.

I'm partial to originals versus remakes, but I hear that V's remakes have big improvements. Any suggestions?

>> No.3607870

PS2 for the gorgeous environments and music.

>> No.3607873

When you get to the dragon you can explore the rest of the world and come back much later, that's what I did. And he's vulnerable to Surround.

>> No.3607890

The remakes let you have a four-person party as opposed to the original's three. That's by far the biggest improvement. They also add party chat.
Wether you get the PS2 or DS version really just depends on how you like your translation and graphics.

>> No.3608943

The music also randomly stops and the game freezes.

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>the ultimate weapon in chapter 3 of Builders is a fucking car

holy shit

>> No.3610346


Is there something like this for Final Fantasy? There are a few versions of all of those games out.

>> No.3610405

It's insanely powerful, too. I love it.

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It's not quite the same thing, but there is this.

>> No.3610518


I was more looking for the best version of each. I swear there was a website that compared game versions, but I haven't been able to find it for years.

>> No.3610595

Starting with DQ I+II on SNES. I've never played Dragon Quest, but I did play and finish the remake of FF1 on ios/psp.

Anything I should know when starting DQ1 any minimal guide I should follow to make sure I don't get too lost? Or is it pretty straightforward?

>> No.3610709

yeah just buy the best versions on iPhone :^)

>> No.3610931

Talk to every NPC you can. They'll give you all the information you need. If you do that you shouldn't ever need a guide. For DQII you probably will need to use a guide at least once though because parts of the game are bullshit.

>> No.3610938

The number one thing you need to know when playing the first Dragon Quest game is to beware of bridges.

>> No.3611325

1+2: PlayStation
3: NES
5: GBA with color and sound patches
6: GBA with color and sound patches
7: PC with mods
8: PlayStation or PC (for 8 and 9 I don't know as I only tried PSX for both)
9: Playstation or PC
10: PC, PS4, or PS2 (international)
11: lol mmo
12: PS4 version coming soon so wait and see
13: PC
14: lol mmo
15: PS4 Pro

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>155 Silver Monster Medals? I'm sure it can't be THAT bad!

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Thread is dying so I'll bump with what I got in the mail yesterday

Post recent Dragon Quest purchases?

>> No.3614758

Just Builders and 7 3DS like everyone else

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>> No.3614974

What about the PSP versions of 1+2? Are they bad?

>> No.3615158

I guess it's fine to go PSP for 1+2 or 4.

>> No.3615206

they changed a bunch of stuff, mostly the spell system. This is a DQ thread though.

>> No.3615215

Why not both?

>> No.3615219

Final Fantasy has a general on /vg/, Dragon Quest doesn't. So go to /vg/ if you want to talk about Final Fantasy.

>> No.3615234

finished the third game recently. What version of 4 should I play?

>> No.3615237

Japanese DS

>> No.3615239

Japanese DS.

That's the one you SHOULD play, but you're probably going to play the Western version anyway.

>> No.3615242

The accents and lack of party talk should be enough to scare most people away.

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Japanese DS, but since you can't read Japanese play NES instead. No simmering doon and bairns.

>> No.3615248

You'd be surprised. There are Dragon Quest """fans""" out there who honestly believe the accents are part of the essential Dragon Quest experience.

>> No.3615306

Then I'm glad they aren't on /vr/.
Do they also defend cutting out the party talk?

>> No.3615324

But they are on /vr/. Just two months ago in the Dragon Quest generals.

I don't think anyone can defend the party talk removal though.

>> No.3615541

How long would it take to learn Japanese?

>> No.3615549

5 japanese years folded one thousanf times

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95% percent of Japanese is kanji, so spend about a week or two mastering hiragana and katakana, then move onto learning basic grammar using Tae Kim's online guide. From there, you can play anything you want, as long as you're okay with relying on using jisho.org as a dictionary for the kanji. You could be playing Dragon Quest in Japanese in a month if you're really committed.

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95% of Japanese is kanji, so spend about a week or two mastering hiragana and katakana, then move onto learning basic grammar using Tae Kim's online guide. From there, you can play anything you want, as long as you're okay with relying on using jisho.org as a dictionary for the kanji. You could be playing Dragon Quest in Japanese in a month if you're really committed.

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95% of Japanese is kanji, so spend about a week or two mastering hiragana and katakana, then move onto learning basic grammar using Tae Kim's online guide. From there, you can play anything you want, as long as you're okay with relying on using jisho.org as a dictionary for the kanji. You could be playing Dragon Quest in Japanese in a month if you're really committed.

why do i keep fucking up this post

>> No.3615580

A week for hiragana and katakana, is it really that easy? My only language is English and the closest I've been to studying a language was bullshitting through French class. I have also never studied in my life.

>> No.3615605

If you want to learn how to write it, it will definitely take longer. But since you're probably only going to use Japanese for reading anyway, it shouldn't take more than two weeks to memorize all the letters in both of the alphabets and their pronunciations. Additional practice will come just through repetition while you're playing games.

Hiragana and Katakana really is easy. That's why there are a lot of weeaboos who can read it with no problem. Kanji is the reason why most people stray from learning Japanese in depth. Don't stress out about learning Kanji, just look it up if you don't know it with jisho.org and eventually you'll be able to recognize it without needing to review it. It will take years to be fluent in reading and speaking, but that shouldn't stop you from playing Japanese video games to practice. Point is, you want to master Hiragana and Katakana as fast as possible and get to Kanji as soon as possible.

You'll definitely be able to learn Japanese if you're motivated. My primary motivator for learning was just how much I fucking hated the new Dragon Quest translations, and I didn't want to have to wait years and years for new games anymore. I haven't even been practicing for all that long (a little over a year now) and I can read a lot of Dragon Quest games without having to look up a majority of the kanji anymore.

>> No.3615613

Time for me to start shilling shit.

The android app Obenkyo has Tae Kim's guide in it and also has a fully customizable flashcard interface for testing yourself on hiragana, katakana, and kanji. It covers characters to romaji, romaji to characters, and drawing the characters. It's really good for working on your literacy and vocabulary, but not so much for grammar.

Tsukiji is similar to Obenkyo in that it lets you use flashcard practice, but is exclusively for kanji and has a much nicer interface than Obenkyo's barebones interface.

Human Japanese is also good, covering grammar and various aspects of Japanese social norms. It's paid but it has a lite version that covers kana and some basic grammar.

>> No.3615626

Yeah I'm definitely interested in learning because I'm not fond of some changes to games like DQ accents. Also I could be playing P5 right now if I knew Japanese. Not to mention all of the good games with no official or fan translation.

>> No.3615628


Use the first to learn them, and use the second to memorize them. What I did was pick the first row and keep that up until I got 20 right in a row, then I added the second set and did 40 in a row, then the third and did 50 in a row, and when I got to the fourth I stopped learning the first column and worked my way across until I got 50 in a row. Then I fired up the whole shebang and spent an entire hour going through every kana. Repeated this with katakana then did them both at the same time for an hour. Devote about 2 hours a day and you'll master the kana in no time flat. Mnemonics help a lot.

t. A guy who mastered hiragana in a fortnight despite being thick as pigshit

>> No.3615641

I'm glad I'm not the only one learning Japanese in this thread. I keep telling other Dragon Quest fans that they really should start learning Japanese at this point.

>> No.3615694

So I'm on chapter 5 of DQ 4, I've taken control of the true hero and met up with Maya and Meena, what should I do now? Torneko is nowhere to be found, and I can't reach Zamoksva to meet up with precious Alena.

>> No.3615709

You need to go to the right of the castle near where the Hero's hometown is. There's a house and a desert there, and that's where you need to go next.

>> No.3615721

Where the guy with the wagon is? He is in process of losing faith in humanity, and doesn't want to talk with me.
Also, there is a cave with metal doors, but the monsters there are brutal. Is it time to grind?

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>> No.3616460
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I recommend Kanjitomo. It combines a dictionary with OCR and works with various emulators and screenshots. When you find a word you don't know, add it to the list and later import it to Anki.
Type in an English word for reverse lookup or add a space after Japanese to add wildcards in the front.

>> No.3616571

Do they have a mobile version of that? That sounds awesome, but it seems like it would only be useful for PCs and emulators. Surprisingly, google translate has a very good kanji identifier if you take a screenshot with your phone, and it only takes about ten seconds to look up in jisho from there. I use it for console/handheld games and manga

>> No.3616621

It should run on any device that has Java though the interface is more suited for pointing devices and keyboards.
There was some manga reader with OCR for Android that might do the trick.

>> No.3616624

Trying to get into DQ7 but this start is so fucking slow. I just slogged through the rainbow mines, does the game pick up in intensity?

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>> No.3617792

>hear about kiefer coming back in DQVII remake
>decide not to look up specifics, just wait until the postgame tablet
>finish the quest
>no kiefer


Apparently this is part 1 of a three parter, but will he actually join at the end of it all?

>> No.3617908

no that screenshot was just a nip gamer who powerleveled him to 99.

>> No.3617917


I was really excited for that. Seems like a missed opportunity. I mean, Dragon Quest IV did a similar thing in its remake and that was awesome.

Well on the brightside, at least people don't need to worry about missing a character once the dlc service finally goes down.

Remake has been nice regardless, now that maingame's over its time to tackle the DLC stuff. Its weird seeing stuff like Drackys in the game, as realizing that they don't appear in the original is mindboggling. That's like having Dragon Quest without Slimes.

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I just finished the class temple in vii, and I made them cleric, mage and thief. But my party feels really weak, should I reroll

>> No.3618038

Maybe make one of them a warrior to lessen the chance of death.

Cleric is good, keep that. Thief eventually unlocks good classes.

>> No.3618058

assuming 3DS, you can always just grind them out with tablets

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>get to La Bravoure in the VII remake
>can't read shit because of the accents

This wasn't by Treehouse, was it?

>> No.3618132


>not making the MC a sailor

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>made a tablet with 3 mad mole (using barns)
>infinite seed of strengths


My Arus (Hero) has 999 strength right now but its only doing 300+ damage per hit with multifist

I guess its impossible to deal higher damage per turn was hoping I can get it up close to 999x4 in this case

>> No.3618168

It was a different group than the one that did the DS games, but still not Treehouse. It was never Treehouse.

>> No.3618171

La Bravoure accent is retarded

They just put garbage before every sentence and the real dialogue after

Its like repeating itself

>> No.3618178

I made Maribel a sailor.
She wanted to go on the fishing trip so badly at the start of the game, after all.

>> No.3618862

>finally beat 7 at 95 hours
Holy fuck I was starting to lose my patience there at the end.

After going through 2 and 7 in a row, I don't know if I have it in me to do another, but how long are 6 and 9? I'm trying. to go through the DQ games I never finished, but 2 and 7 just killed me a little.

>> No.3618871

Answered my own question. Seems they're both about 50 hours without extras, so I guess I'll just start six and see how that goes.

>> No.3618876

>playing VI right after VII
Are you some sort of masochist?

>> No.3618907

I guess so since I'll be going 2 7 6

>> No.3618916 [DELETED] 

You should have played VII before VI in my opinion. The second part of VI is basically prototype VII. So now when you play through it, you'll probably keep thinking "VII did this way better."

First part of VI is really good though. I'd say it rivals IV and V.

>> No.3618919

You should have played VI before VII in my opinion. The second part of VI is basically prototype VII. So now when you play through it, you'll probably keep thinking "VII did this way better."

First part of VI is really good though. I'd say it rivals IV and V in quality. If only the whole game was like that.

>> No.3618921

To be honest, I was just going to not play 6, but then I just wanted to start 7 since I had it on my back burner for years, and by the time I thought about going back to 6 it was too late.

I don't have too many issues going back to older games, though, but, yeah, I'm already aware 6 is the prototype to 7.

>> No.3618927

Sounds good. Might want to consider taking a little break after 7 though, so you don't burn out.

>> No.3619856

I am 120 hours in and still enjoying the game
Though I am just doing DLC tablets and collecting stamps now. This game doesn't seem like it has the end game as extensive as IX though

Most of the DLC is just a walk in the park

>> No.3621303

What's a good place to job-grind in VII's postgame? My party (Hero, Maribel, Ruff, Mervyn) is low 40s and everyone's either on or mastered one third tier job (Hero for Hero, currently going to Champion, Maribel is finishing Druid, Druid for Ruff, currently on Hero, Mervyn is finishing Champion). I managed to beat the bonus boss in 39 turns, so should I be getting levels or job experience? I have no interest in Monster hearts currently, not sure what purpose they fill in the game, only used one HealSlime heart so far. My save file is 90 hours.

>> No.3621317

Jugding from your names, I'm assuming you're playing the remake. As a result, just make tablets out of monsters. No level caps there. Alternatively, anywhere in the modern world doesn't have a level cap so just job grind anywhere.

>not sure what purpose they fill in the game
Monster classes. You put one in somebody's inventory and then they can become the monster and learn shit from the monster class.

They have more of a purpose in the remake since skills you learn from jobs aren't carried over between them outside of the basic ones. So, let's say you grind to a Platinum King, class-wise. Along the way you will have a permanent Gigaslash and Omniheal. Sure, you could just have a hero, but you could have those two skills on a Champion right from the get-go or a Druid.

Really, they're more important early on. For fun, you could also make a dedicated monster character like I did, so that way you have more variety in your team's classes.

>> No.3621473

>FF4 on SNES
It's made obsolete by the PSP and DS versions. I mention both because they both do things a bit differently and obviously have very different styles graphically, but they';re both superior. FF4 DS is also one of those rare situations where the remake is actually more difficult than the original. It's sort of like Resident Evil Remake (crimson heads) too, in the sense that it messes with the expectations of veterans by changing boss strats and stuff.

>> No.3621482

I guess I should have been clearer in my question about monster classes. It felt like they interrupted the flow of the game's progression through the normal classes. I can reasonably understand that the game wants the player to have a few or everyone in the party at a third tier job by the final boss, so interrupting that progress with monster jobs seems counterproductive. Is it too late to care about going through monster jobs if I've already beaten the game?

>> No.3621484
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What are the best DQ5 recruits and why are they Slime Knight and Hulagan?

>> No.3621490

Slime Knight, Restless Armour, Golem, and Healslime are my homies.

>> No.3621493


DWM2 is the superior Dragon Quest game.

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Wish me luck lads

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Dissapointing fight honestly. Way easier than DQ4's boss, only had about 4 moves, no phase changes midfight, battle music sounded like it should have been field music instead. He was just tanky as hell and wouldn't stop healing himself.

I had the father casting either absorb magic, or attacking via Dragon Staff transformation which does alot of damage and makes him invulnerable to Blistering Fire. The Son was casting Insulate, Kabuff and rarely multihealed between attacks. Saber did literally nothing but attack. Had to switch him out twice with an Orc King to cast Kazing on a dead Son. Based Slime Knight pretty much did nothing but use the Safe Stone and occasionally full or mid heal. I hope the secret boss isnt such a pushover. Thanks for reading my blog

>> No.3621543

The secret boss is never a pushover.

>> No.3621605

Unless you really care, no, not really. You don't even need monster jobs. I got to platinum king without much grinding just by getting hearts from casinos, so I had Ruff starting out as my monster guy right after all-trades, but you don't really need them at all. It's nice for a few skills early on, like putting heal slime on somebody for group healing, but that's about it.

>> No.3621632

Yep. Just got my shit pushed in on the first attempt. It really came down to the son being underleveled and being outsped. He was throwing out breath attacks before I could get insulation out.

>> No.3621730

Messala the bessala.

>> No.3621943

They really made the final boss fight a lot easier. When I played the DS version, I beat Mirudraas on my first try.

Then I played the Super Famicom version some time after and expected to win on the first try also. Fuck no, that shit doesn't happen. He is legitimately challenging in the Super Famicom version.

>> No.3621947

There's also the fact that you've got three party members in the snes version vs four in both remakes

>> No.3621954

Man, the problem is after playing dq8 the others just don't do it for me.

DQ8 is my favourite JRPG to date. Nothing has come close yet.

>> No.3621957

Dragon Quest VIII is the first Dragon Quest game I played and still my favorite, but I still enjoy the others. They're good games.

>> No.3621961


They just lack the PIZZAZZ of VIII

Don't get me wrong they are not bad games by any means and I can still enjoy them. I played all before it first but after 8 nothing has come close. Neither before or after.

DQIX was disappointing desu.

Didn't bother with DQX mmorpg's can get out of here.

All the off shoots are "ok" but whatever

If the new one is shit I'm gonna be mad.

>> No.3621963

Well everyone thought IX was disappointing. I would love a remake of all the previous Dragon Quest games in the style of VIII, but that's probably never going to happen unfortunately.

>> No.3621969

I could never recruit one of these, and I was masochistic enough to try and recruit king cureslime

I'm in the final stretch of V's main game and I decided I really want to recruit this great dragon fellow and grind up everyone how much pain am I in for?

>> No.3621970

Unless you're seriously underleveled, you might want to wait until post-game to start doing that. Save the grinding for the bonus boss.

>> No.3622236

Who thought it was a good idea to make you have to fight Divinegon four times before you can fight GranDragon?

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Its a feature

>> No.3622410

I have the sale problem. I'm currently playing VII on 3ds and enjoying it, but it doesn't come close to VIII in my opinion.

>> No.3622568

This is why I've stuck to beating the games in order. They're all fun and it's nice see how the series evolved.

>> No.3622669

I actually don't like 8 that much. I don't like the way it did party chat, I'm not a huge fan of the characters, battles feel way too slow, and I prefer the class sytem over weapon trees.

I liked the presentation of the world, that was nice, but I'd rather have the other stuff from the older games.

>> No.3622694

>I don't like the way it did party chat
Yeah, it's a bit cumbersome, I agree.
>I'm not a huge fan of the characters
They're standard Dragon Quest characters really. At least they don't have lazy Toriyama DBZ designs like VI does.
>battles feel way too slow
I think they're just about right actually. VI SFC will always be the king of irritatingly slow battles.
>class system over weapon trees
Which class system are you talking about? III's class system is outdated, and VI and VII's job systems just add unnecessary battle grinding to their games. As much as I like to shit on IX for being mediocre, it's the only game in the series to actually get the class system right.

>> No.3623430

What if DQXI has monster recruit and Pachisi

>> No.3623450

Recruit? Nice. Pachisi? Please don't.

>> No.3623451

>play DQVII
>encounter a monster called Zepling
>his name is Led


>> No.3623452

Is that word commonly known in America? It seems like a poor translation for Sugoroku since you're just replacing one foreign word with another.

>> No.3623453

I bet they renamed the species just so they could do that joke.

>> No.3623454

well pachisi is an actual board game

>> No.3623945
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When do I get my new party member in 7? The chick or the old guy. Im 35 hours into it, and I just did the "inside-a-painting-time-spain-land" area.
I have been avoiding fights like they were the plague, afraid of overleveling. My plan is do ditch Gabo when I get my two others. As old warrior man is one of my favorite archtypes, and hot dancer swordlady is well.

>> No.3623954

You can't ditch Gabo/Ruff until endgame.

Melvin/Mervyn is your 4th and you're close to getting him, Maribel leaves for a big chunk to make room for Aishe/Aira

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Ah, I see. Thanks. I'm glad they did it that way then, I guess? It's not that I want to ditch him, but choices have to be made.
Also, wount Melvin suck when I get him? My plan was not to grind any classes/levels until I had them all.

>> No.3623975

Oh, and I forgot to ask, am I long away from getting the chick?

>> No.3623980

He starts with no jobs at all if I remember correctly. The girl starts with dancer mastered and I think 3 levels in warrior.

I don't remember, but when Maribel leaves is when you get her. Besides her looks she's really bland.

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Ah, that's a shame she is that. DQ girls are so often pretty top tier both in personality and looks. I really wish that I could fill out my party before at least 40 hours.

>> No.3624086

Is DQ7's final boss supposed to be easy? I just spammed multi fists on him and he died pretty quickly. Barely did any damage to my party as well. I guess a party of maxed out heroes is overkill for him maybe

>> No.3624096

You're still in for a long ride, enjoy.

>> No.3626520

What's the context for what happens to Frobish/Faraday in Disc 2? Am I ever able to reverse that? It feels like VII had a few too many plot threads lying around by the end of the game.

>> No.3626557


I liked how they made the people of that land Spaniards since the weird buildings there are inspired by Gaudí.

That's a grand total of one of those accents that didn't come off as completely random.

>> No.3627058


I've bought Dragon Quest Builders and I'm having a blast. I thought it would only be another minecraft clone with generic Toriyama designs, but boy, was I wrong.

Thing is I've never played a DQ per se. I have every DS release (so, if I'm not mistaken, that counts for every DQ from 4 to 6 and 9?), the 3DS one and the PS2 one. I'm missing any?

I also know some NES games where re-released on SNES. What's the deal with those? Which version is better? Were all of them released on the US or EU?

Which game would you start with first? In its original platform, or it's better to emulate it?

Thank you!

>> No.3627072

You'd be missing the first three games, then.

The SNES remakes of 1-3 are generally better. All three of them were also remade for GBC, using the SNES versions as the base. Some people consider those even better than the SNES versions.
The SNES versions remained in Japan while the GBC versions were released internationally. There are translation patches available for the SNES versions.

IV, V, and VIII are generally recommended as starting points for the series. Other people will recomend that you start from the first game and go through the series in release order. I consider IV a great starting point myself.

As for platform, Original platform or emulation, it doesn't matter for me.

Welcome to Dragon Quest!

>> No.3627096

Play in Japanese. It may require more effort in the beginning but it allows you to get deeper into the series and avoid various issues in the English versions.

>> No.3627107

Would you just sod off already?

>> No.3627124

What? Everybody here agrees that playing in Japanese is the best way.

>> No.3627131

>hey guys i'm curious about a series where should i start
Nobody is going to fucking do that to try out a series. Are you fucking serious? Whether or not it's the best way is irrelevant since you should be able to have the self-awareness to see why that's a stupid suggestion.

>> No.3627132

Just don't give them any attention.

>> No.3627135

No. They absolutely do not.

>> No.3627138

Have you read this thread? There are numerous posts recommending the Japanese versions, providing tips on playing the Japanese versions, saying that they learn Japanese by playing the games and so on.

>> No.3627141

This isn't Ultima with its runes. Japanese is useful well beyond Dragon Quest.

>> No.3627143

And I bet every one of them were by one or two of the same people.

>> No.3627146

>There are numerous posts recommending the Japanese versions, providing tips on playing the Japanese versions, saying that they learn Japanese by playing the games and so on.
Right, for people already interested in the series.

If some guy goes, "hey, i'm curious about this thing", you don't go "WELL FIRST YOU GOT TO LEARN A NEW A WHOLE NEW LANGUAGE" like what the fuck. Are you really that dense?

>> No.3627152

Yes, always that Anonymous guy.

>> No.3627154

Holy shit, he's everywhere.

What a samefag.

>> No.3627157

But that's how it is. Stop scaring people away from it.

>> No.3627158


>> No.3627159

He's also behind all the anti-Japanese posts.

>> No.3627216

>You'd be missing the first three games, then.
I don't care. As far as I know, Dragon Quest series aren't actually related, doesn't them? So if I'm only going to play one, I'd prefer to start with the most fun one.

>IV, V, and VIII are generally recommended as starting points for the series. Other people will recomend that you start from the first game and go through the series in release order. I consider IV a great starting point myself.
Now we're talking. Thank you! Also, would you prefer the SNES or the DS version of 4? Are there any significant differences, apart from graphical overhaul?

>Welcome to Dragon Quest!
Thank you!

>Play in Japanese.
Dude, I'm not going to master a language just for one game. Don't be ridiculous. Given that I don't have the time to try every DQ to see which one is the better one to start, what makes you think I have the time to learn japanese just to play one game?

>> No.3627226

>Also, would you prefer the SNES or the DS version of 4?
There is no SNES version of 4. The DS version is pretty much the same as the PS1.
Don't play the English DS version. They cut out half of the dialogs and rewrote the rest with barely comprehensible dialects.

>Dragon Quest series aren't actually related, doesn't them?
2 is a sequel to 1 and 3 is a prequel.
4-6 also have a bit of continuity.
1 can be fun in its simplicity and 3 is a pretty interesting game.

>what makes you think I have the time to learn japanese just to play one game?
Because you're on /vr/. Everybody here dreamed of learning Japanese one day.
You don't have to master the language before playing nor is it feasible to master a language without using it.
Asking for help where to start is a completely normal approach to a series, especially when there's multiple ports and remakes to pick from.

>> No.3627229

>Everybody here dreamed of learning Japanese one day.
Maybe if you were all massive wapanese.

>> No.3627236

It's what this site is about.

>> No.3627243

Funny, I thought we were on /vr/ to talk about retro video games.

>> No.3627246

Predominantly Japanese games and systems.

>> No.3627249

No, just retro video games.

>> No.3627378

I have a question about DQ4.

Do whips and boomerangs attack more than one enemy in the FC version? I tried thorn whip and the first boomerang that you can get and they seem to hit only one enemy.

>> No.3627406
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I do agree that newcomers to the series shouldn't be forced to learn Japanese right away. That seems like an unnecessary learning wall that will just drive people away from the series. However, I do have a message for the rest of you in this thread:

The unfortunate reality is that if you're a hardcore Dragon Quest fan and have been for a while, you absolutely should be learning Japanese by this point. Regardless of all the accent and pun localization woes. There was a four year gap in Dragon Quest games between Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 and Dragon Quest Heroes (unless you count mobile shit, which I don't), while Japan got over five new Dragon Quest games in that time.

Need I remind you that we got the inferior version of Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 six months after Joker 2 Professional was already RELEASED in Japan? And then we never got Joker 2 Professional. And we never will. There are so many spinoffs that we're never going to get now, including Rocket Slime 3, Dragon Quest Monsters 1+2 3DS, Dragon Quest Monsters Victory Road, etc. We'll be lucky if we even get Joker 3. Fan translations aren't perfectly reliable either, since Terry's Wonderland 3D took four years to come out.

Face it, you're going to miss out on lots of Dragon Quest games if you continue playing the western games. Hell, you're going to miss out on a mainline game, since Dragon Quest X is never, EVER, coming out here. And you're going to have to wait a long time for the localizations anyway (Dragon Quest VII 3DS took 3 years to localize).

There is an unfortunate stigma that you need to study Japanese for years and years before you can even touch a Japanese game, but that's completely false. Not to mention you're going to burn out if you just stare at flash cards all day. After taking a little bit of time to understand the basics of Japanese, just start playing a game you enjoy or want to play in Japanese and start learning in depth from there. It's that simple.

>> No.3627423

No, but they do in the remakes.

>> No.3627435

>There is an unfortunate stigma that you need to study Japanese for years and years before you can even touch a Japanese game, but that's completely false

Maybe that anon isn't a neet that can be all day every day studying. Maybe learning japanaese is a matter of a month to you with all your free time, but years to another average-Joe anon who is lucky to have half an hour to an hour a week to get into gaming.

So I wouldn't blame for that unfortunate stigma anyone else but people llike you. If the man wants to start DQ, just tell him which one. Leave your politics out of here.

Start with DQVIII, it's pretty cool. But prepare to pour hours and hours into it.

>> No.3627438

Ok, thanks. I thought maybe only certain characters could use those weapons like that or something.

>> No.3627446

>Maybe that anon isn't a neet that can be all day every day studying.
I go to Uni five times a week for my STEM degree, and most of the time I'm there until late at night. And yet when I come home, I still have time to put some practice into my Japanese.

So if you don't want to start shit for no reason, then I suggest you fuck right off with your assumptions.

>> No.3627452

>but years to another average-Joe anon who is lucky to have half an hour to an hour a week to get into gaming.
Someone with that little time shouldn't waste it here. How are they even supposed to finish a DQ game which take dozens of hours to complete?

30 minutes a day shouldn't be that difficult.
NEETs aren't exactly known for their work morals either.

>> No.3627465

>I go to Uni five times a week for my STEM degree, and most of the time I'm there until late at night. And yet when I come home, I still have time to put some practice into my Japanese.

Five times a week? That's cute. I got my STEM degree and a master's degree while working 8 hours a day. But not everyone can waste their time that way.

That's my point. Playing a game by itself won't be that difficult in that little time. But asking him to go and learn an entire new language with different sillables, grammar and so on before playing? You've just told him to fuck off.

>> No.3627472

My point was that I'm not a NEET, not who has the biggest dick here. Come on man.

Japanese is nowhere near as difficult as you are making it out to be.

>> No.3627479

I'm not talking about difficulty. I'm talking about being time consuming.

>> No.3627480

>You've just told him to fuck off.
I've told him the objectively superior way. What he makes of that is his decision.
Most people interested in DQ have already interest in other Japanese media and experience with Japanese.
Even if not, the 50 syllables and bit of grammar you need shouldn't take more than a few hours to acquire.
After that it's mainly playing games and the like so you gain proficiency and expand your vocabulary.

>> No.3627482

>I've told him the objectively superior way

>Which game should I begin with?
>Play in Japanese

You didn't even answered his question, to begin with. No sweat why /vg/ is so hatedin and out 4chan.

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>> No.3627505

He was talking about playing 4 on the DS.
He shouldn't make the mistake of playing it in English. And instead of simply warning against that particular warning it was more appropriate to generally recommend the Japanese originals over localizations or fan patches.

>> No.3627514

the DS translations really improve on the dry script of the originals though.

>> No.3627521

I like this bait.

>> No.3627795

I think some EOPs actually believe it, probably a way to justify to themselves their inability to actually read the originals.

>> No.3627943

Let me tack on to that one.

I-III on NES are (from a gameplay point of view) the same game with refinements as they progress. They had minimal story with emphasis on exploring the world map and revisiting towns with new information and means to access new areas. The size of the maps and the amount of information gathering expanded exponentially between games. The SNES/GBC Remakes of I+II are arguably better in virtually every way, but you miss out on what made them special if you don't play them on NES. III is so much better on SNES/GBC that it would be a shame to miss out on the extra features by playing the NES version. SNES III is honestly a fun classic JRPG, with huge ambitions for it's time.

That being said, if you skip the first three and go straight to IV on NES, you don't really miss much from the NES era. IV on NES plays similarly to I-III, but with much better story narration at the cost of sandbox style exploration. The DS remake has a terrible English translation, and you miss out on how great the NES sprite art was for it's time. Just play the NES version.

A note on versions for the first three. The GBC versions of I-III are basically direct ports of the SNES versions with downgraded graphics and music. However, they have the best gameplay speed because of menu layouts, remapping the A button as an 'everything' button, and because the narrower FOV and map scaling make for much faster travel in dungeons, towns, and even the world map. To add to this, they tend to look and feel like traditional RPG versions of gen I/II Pokémon, which makes for very fun gameplay if you're at all nostalgic for those.

>> No.3627960

>ut you miss out on what made them special if you don't play them on NES
You miss out on what made them special if you don't play them on Famicom. They removed various important aspects such as the revival spell from the American versions of 1 and 2 to make them more in line with later games.

>> No.3628005

>I've told him the objectively superior way.
You told him a way that nobody who is curious about trying out a video game is going to do. I don't even disagree with >>3627406 or that learning Japanese is a bad thing, but you gave him a non-answer more or less. Whether or not it's the best way, it's unreasonable to assume somebody would go out of their way to do that just to try out one game in a series they may fucking hate afterwards.

>> No.3628068
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I'm doing the optional quest in the city after El Ciclio (Spain)
I follow the maid outside to feed the dog, but nothing happens after that.Talked and checked everything, even checked out some walkthroughs, but the quest wount continue.

>> No.3628142

What is, objectively, the best and most essential Dragon Quest game?


>> No.3628174

What, no Dragon Quest X?
This poll is RIGGED.

>> No.3628191
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>when Dragon Quest General starts arguing over whether to play in English or Japanese

>> No.3628287


Its a combination of him not hitting hard enough and the vocation being broken

Multifist / Sword Dance in general are broken. Blade of Ultimate Power is broken too but it cost 20MP

>> No.3628314

That's what people get for feeding a very prevalent and obvious troll.

>> No.3628412

This is completely unrelated but they really make Terry as unlikable as he is in Heroes

>> No.3628416

Better than retards going around recommending remakes everywhere, especially GBC

>> No.3628421

>implying the anti-remake fags aren't as bad as the japanese only fags
you're both equal in faggyness, and I wish you both would leave.

>> No.3628456

nope. if you play remakes first then you need to go back to /v/.

>> No.3628476

DQVI battle theme is so rad

>> No.3628535
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When you typed that out, did it sound as retarded to you as it does to me right now?

>> No.3628610

I didn't know it was a meme, but that shit was so bad I fucking dropped the game. All I can even remember was the BattleRex (because I loved DQM as a kid) and DarkDream. The rest is a blur of forgettable nothing.

>> No.3628615

I think 1 is better on GBC desu. The pros outweigh the cons there and I prefer that aesthetic.

2 and 3 should be played on SNES, though.

>> No.3628709

How many hate the series for ye olde Englishe, accents or other shit from the translations?
If playing something in its original form makes it twice as good then it's obvious to recommend playing it that way.

>> No.3628723

Just stop.

>> No.3628729

You have to stop acting like recommending Japanese is a bad thing.

>> No.3628731

Just stop.

>> No.3628792

I bet he thinks that playing Doom with a keyboard is more fun.

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Is something wrong?

>> No.3628917

How's VII 3DS?

>> No.3628920

It's great.

>> No.3628923

Are the dungeon simplifications everyone was fawning over so problematic? Does it "feel" right? Any general problems with translation?

>> No.3628930

>Any general problems with translation?
You mean besides the fact that it sucks?

>> No.3628932

it has a game breaking bug that is hard to trigger as well as altered music, though I wouldn't call it a downgrade.

there are some quirks with the localized version missing pictures of items in shops for w/e reason too.

the game was simplified in the sense that they cut out a lot of shit people complained about, the games length has been reduced a bit, and the intro is condensed down from about 3 hours to about 30 mins - to an hour in length before you fight your first battle, due to the fact that they removed most of the puzzles from the introduction.

Overall its a preference thing, but to be fair dragon quest 7 was long winded in some bad ways, so most people that complain about the changes are probably a bit too purist

>> No.3629878

Okay lets start

- game reported to be run slower compare to japanese version due to some changes to the menu and shit, you are going to get used to it after awhile though it might be annoying
- never play the original but from what i heard it makes everything easier to find, which is a good thing. With the radar for fragment and the "Wheres the next tablet info" its hard to get lost
- still the same ole too much dialogue for confirmation like every other DQ. It gets really bad especially sharing tablet (why the fuck they don't just let me specify the detail once and run with them?) Also saving details like three times just to share once
- game difficulty depending on how much you get on the vocation
- the final boss is a pushover for me but i am not sure if i grind too hard (i fight him with a Hero, Sage, and another 2 intermediate ones). Certainly not at that point where I can spam UltraHit
- too much palette swap for my liking but this happened to most jrpg in that era
- postgame is quite disappointing, but its understanding given the length of the actual game

Overall its a very good game, with minor annoyance

>> No.3630253
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>never beat a single DQ game
>decide to try again
>load up DQ1 on GBC
>can't figure out where the fuck to go

I'm never gonna beat this, am I

>> No.3630260

The golden rule in RPGs is "Talk to everyone."

>> No.3630261
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Dragon Quest Suite (OST, MP3, ~180kbps, 54MB):

Dragon Quest I Remix Symphonic Suite + Super Famicom Version (OST, MP3, 192kbps, 55MB):

Dragon Quest I•II Symphonic Suite (OST, MP3, 192kbps, 84MB):

Dragon Quest V Symphonic Suite ~Bride of the Heavens~ (OST, MP3, ~192kbps, 120MB):

Dragon Quest VII 3DS (OST, MP3, 192kbps, 165.4MB)

Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (OST, MP3, 254kbps, 214MB)

Anyone else got any music?

Also, why is this guy strong as fuck in the DQM remake?

>> No.3630263

Most that stands out is some guy asking for proof that I'm from the hero's bloodline

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>> No.3630354

Wheres the one for IV and VI

>> No.3630476

I feel like VII could edge that much further to greatness if the postgame had a bit more meat.

>> No.3630486

Am I entitled for wanting more Dragon Quest in the west, but not wanting to take the time to learn Japanese?

>> No.3630512


>> No.3630638

You're stupid for not learning Japanese.
What games get released overseas doesn't matter.

>> No.3630695


>> No.3630776 [DELETED] 

No, but that does mean after Dragon Quest VIII 3DS bombs just like Dragon Quest VII, you're going to be stuck with no western Dragon Quest games again for years and years.

>> No.3630778

No, but that does mean after Dragon Quest VIII 3DS bombs just like Dragon Quest VII, you're going to be stuck with no western Dragon Quest games again for years and years. Meanwhile I'll be happy playing my superior nihongo DQ games during that time.

>> No.3630786

maybe dragon quest 7 3DS shouldn't have been a butchered port filled to the brim with bugs and music downgrades, its always a self fulfilling prophecy with enix's opinion about dragon quest in the west

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>> No.3631031

*gun jams* SH*T!

>> No.3631054

I've tried off and on to play DQ for ages, and now I stand ready for dracolord for the first time. You can do it anon.

>> No.3631182

I can't find them

>> No.3631783

>Heroes has 4 DQIV characters
>Heroes II has 5

Jesus christ the only one left in the cast that's not in the games are Ragnar and Borya

Meanwhile VI only has Carver and Terry...

>> No.3631789

and they fucking cut Bianca and Nera/Flora for fucking Gabo

like who the fuck wanted Gabo

>> No.3631790

>only has Carver and Terry
Just how it should be.

>> No.3631791

I did.

>> No.3631802
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Well I think they choose character based on weapons

so Bianca has to be replaced for Angelo

Too bad for Nera though I think she was pretty good with the bubbles.

Should've added Deborah since there's no representative for V but the OG girl is already using axe/hammer

>> No.3631815

Debbie technically also used claws but that would probably overlap with Alena

>> No.3631878

>Keifer is forgotten again

>> No.3631995

Who cares, he's a dick.

>> No.3632035

When I unlock a higher tier job, should I get to work mastering it immediately or continue mastering requisite low-tier jobs to unlock more first?

>> No.3632049

You need to get back to low tier job after that so it depends if you're able to beat the next big boss with those jobs

I personally grind jobs like Jester in the slime tablet (assuming you mean DQVII)

>> No.3632202

surely you don't believe those things lead to disappointing sales

>> No.3632208

Don't bother. Just don't.
He honestly does.

>> No.3632209

they merged with the company that created final fantasy, and you can say w/e you want about that game series, but Square markets the shit out of final fantasy.

there is nothing that leads to sale increases or decreases for dragon quest besides word of mouth, and the word of mouth when it comes to dragon quest localizations are that the games force shitty pun infused dialogue with annoying to read accent imitations, and the composer of the games hates gaijins so much he won't let them release outside of japan with unbutchered soundtracks, and now they have a bunch of stupid bugs, including game breaking bugs in DQ7 3ds as well as a bunch of missing shit for no discernible reason

That's my analysis all shit posting aside.

It's just a self fulfilling prophecy, its probably what they want anyway, I mean, what with the composers hatred of gaijins, they probably just wait for an excuse to not localize the games

>> No.3632217

Do they add bugs compared to the Japanese version or just don't release fixed versions?

>> No.3632218

>and the composer of the games hates gaijins so much he won't let them release outside of japan with unbutchered soundtracks
Why do I have a feeling this part is bullshit and the composer would be told "We own the music, you made it for us, not for yourself"?

>> No.3632219

I am still surprised they bothered to localize Builders

>> No.3632232

>passing off unsubstantiated rumours as fact
kindly jump off a cliff

>> No.3632234

>what with the composers hatred of gaijins
Where is this from? I know Sugiyama is involved in politics but this seems far-fetched

>> No.3632259

He's on record for saying that Japan did nothing wrong or something or other during WWII, so that combined with the changing of the music to synth for the overseas releases of VII and VIII have just about everyone on 4chan convinced that he hates "dirty gaijin" with a passion

>> No.3632263

the fuck are you even on about?

>> No.3632265

>answer question
>what are you on about

>> No.3632273

But some gaikokujin were their friends in WW2.

>> No.3632530

It has nothing to do with Sugiyama's political opinions or beliefs.Square Enix (or whoever is responsible for this shit) just couldn't afford to license the orchestrated soundtrack for the west, and it looks like they won't be able to for Dragon Quest VIII 3DS either.

Why aren't you filthy gaijin learning Japanese again? You get a better script AND better music!

>> No.3632531

>start talking about world war 2 for no reason

>> No.3632840
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Which is the better translation patch for Dragon Quest V for SuFami, byuu's patch or DeJap's?

>> No.3632851

You wanted to know where it came from, I gave you the answer.
And that answer is "It's all in their heads."

>> No.3632902

Both are shit in different ways. One is too literal and wooden as fuck, and the other takes too many liberties. So just pick whichever.

>> No.3632920

If you want a more accurate translation, byuu's is super literal. However, as such, it feels lifeless and dull because it's not native.

The DeJap translation feels much more natural, but takes some liberties in order to accomplish that. The liberties taken hear aren't nearly as bad as some DQ games' official NA releases though.

Pick whichever you think you'd enjoy more

>> No.3632930

Do I have to spell the obvious out for you?

>> No.3632940

>guy with little translation patch experience asks an honest question
don't be an ass, anon.

even if you google it, one of the top responses you find a thread where byuu talks about how the official DS translation is better than both which is lol

>> No.3632949

I dunno, I thought that Count Uptaten and cities being renamed to random German towns was pretty great...

>> No.3632958

Dragon Quest IV

>> No.3632964

I wasn't talking about Google. I wanted to voice my disdain about translations but wasn't sure how to express it in a nice way.

>> No.3633825

I mostly play with the sound off in order to not disturb everyone else around me

>> No.3633882

Dude, just move to Japan already.

>> No.3633909

Come on now, this is a Dragon Quest thread. You don't even need to be passive-aggressive about translations here.

>> No.3633972

dq 5 > dq3 > dq 7 > the rest of the games

end of story

>> No.3633973

also, dragon quest 3 definitive version is GBC

if you disagree you're wrong and blinded by nostalgia

>> No.3633976


dq8, not dq7, sorry typo

>> No.3633994

I disagree, I like SNES more and I played that after the GBC one.

>> No.3634009

>still no news of DQ Heroes II

*urge to import intensifies*

>> No.3634261

>Dragon Quest III
>Better than Dragon Quest VIII
ok buddy

The added bonus content in Dragon Quest III GBC actually makes the game worse and far less enjoyable.


Japan is a great place to visit, but not a great place to live.

>> No.3635653

Do you guys collect DQ ?

>> No.3635756

i love dairy queen, especially their oreo blizzards

>> No.3635758

>collecting ice creams

>> No.3635886
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Why is she so perfect?

>> No.3635902

cuz she got minority skin tone without minority features

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Yes, but my collection isn't perfect, still working on it. For what it's worth I think I have most of the retro Japanese Dragon Quest games. (And yes, I do play them).

>> No.3636182
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Yes, but my collection isn't perfect, still working on it. For what it's worth I think I have most of the retro Japanese Dragon Quest games. (And yes, I do play them).

>> No.3636183
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Part 2

>> No.3636187

So what's really missing are the MSX ports?

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>> No.3636204

Yes, and according to GameFaqs there's also Dragon Quest for the PC-98 and the Sharp X68. I still have a ton of Dragon Quest games I need to get for the DS and 3DS so that's definitely low priority right now (if I ever decide to get them).

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>tfw just need one more monster medal to get 155

The pain is almost over!!!

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>> No.3638124

they really butchered the music in the DS version.

This is my favorite town theme.

>> No.3638218

I'm glad you posted this because I haven't called anyone a faggot all day and it might as well be you.

>> No.3638225

I'm pretty sure "autist" would've been more fitting, to be honest. Here's your (you).

>> No.3638245

Alright boys, it's time to finish Dragon Quest III GBC. Can I beat GranDragon with this team?

Lv. 90 Hero
Lv. 55 Sage
Lv. 70 Sage
Lv. 55 Sage

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>Bianca in Heroes

Why is this allowed

>> No.3638280

cause she's the best and you are waifu shit

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>bianca has the most porn of any other character
>surprised she gets into heroes
that's japans way of saying shes popular

>> No.3638309

Its not because she's in the game

Its because she's extremely broken

>> No.3639104

Gran Dragon is literally the exact same fight as Divinegon, just with more HP

Kill me

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Being a Britfag, I missed out on the whole DQ thing, gutted as when I read that issue of The Games Machine with the RARE feature showing some scans of DQ I actually went to Chinatown and bought a famicom, but it would be another decade until I met my wife who taught me Japanese so I could only look at Famicom Tsushin etc and long to play it.

When we lived in Japan, I would occasionally try, and fail to win DQ toys in UFO catcher machines.

Fast forward until last year, I wanted to experience what a Japanese kid did when playing DQ so I started reading a chapter of the DQ manga each week and on Sunday mornings watched the DQ anime. During the week, I would play DQ on the GBC for the remakes, but didn't like them much, so skipped to the DS remakes. I also flicked through the scans of the DQ guides that are just about still seeded on Nya.

Still having fun, I hope you do too OP, even though you'll probably never read this.

>> No.3639250

I doubt OP is still here. He probably did not expect us to use his thread to set up a Dragon Quest General thread.

>> No.3639257

First time I've posted in maybe 3/4 years on 4chin too.

>> No.3639273

It was the first Dragon Quest thread up since the previous general had died. It was inevitable.

>> No.3639312

Yeah, I made several of the previous threads, but when the last general died early, I just let someone else make the next one.

I might make the next one after we reach 500 posts. Or after I finish Dragon Quest Monsters.

>> No.3639780

bring back pachisi/treasures and trapdoors

>> No.3639802

they did in X

>> No.3641498

>pachisi in MMO

>> No.3641507 [DELETED] 

Has anyone here actually played Dragon Quest X?

>> No.3641510

Is that even possible if you're not in Japan

>> No.3641515

I'm pretty sure you can still play offline.

>> No.3641613

How is the Dragon Warrior 1+2 GB port? I might get 1, 2, and 3 on GB if I like the GBC I just bought.

>> No.3641616

It's an inferior port of the SFC version.

Still a good game though.

>> No.3641898

> How is the Dragon Warrior 1+2 GB port? I might get 1, 2, and 3 on GB if I like the GBC I just bought.

Honestly? Between GBC and SNES, The SNES versions look and sound better, but the GBC versions are by far the most playable. Almost double the walking speed, the A button is a contextually aware action button, the menus are much faster, combat animations are quicker, etc. The SNES version feels like a chore after playing the GBC version. Also, GBC RPGs tend to have a really comfy and childlike aesthetic, and III is one of the best examples there are.

That being said, if you've never played them before, the SNES ones are a really good experience and you shouldn't cheat yourself out of the fantastic sprite work.

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>> No.3641924

>Almost double the walking speed
They have the same walking speed. GBC seems faster because of the smaller screen.
>the A button is a contextually aware action button
L and X are context sensitive buttons.
>the menus are much faster
You have to wait for an entire transition to get into the menu in GBC, making it slower by default. Other than that, navigation is the same speed.
>combat animations are quicker, etc.
This is the only one I can't refute. GBC has smaller, less detailed sprites and animations, that play out quicker.

>> No.3641964

Man, /pol/ really is everywhere these days

>> No.3641970 [DELETED] 

You can't escape it now that literally Hitler is the US President and literally brownshirts are on the loose rounding up gays and Mexicans.

>> No.3642003 [DELETED] 

It's terrible. Just yesterday I was sitting at the bus stop playing Dragon Warrior for the Game Boy Color when the man next to me snatched my Game Boy Advance SP and threw it in the trash. He turned around and said "You know that Trump won, right? Remake fags aren't allowed here anymore." My eight year old son, who was sitting next to me, started crying. Through his tears, he asked me "Dad, are we getting deported because we're EOPs?" I sat there motionless and silent. Fuck Drumpf.

>> No.3642031

Is Psaro the Sephiroth of Dragon Quest

>> No.3642584

No, but Sephiroth is the Psaro of Final Fantasy

>> No.3642776
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Got to the final boss of DQ7 today on the 3ds version.

He whopped my ass in phase 4 because I ran out of Mana trying to stay healed. I was lvl 35 at the time. Now I went to farm some metal king slimes and my whole party is 40 now, I'm just curious will this be enough?

I'm only asking because I'm at work and goofing off on my lunch break wishing I could have finished the game this morning.

>> No.3643596

Job levels are more important though. I had the MC as a champion and everyone else as the Hero job class and kicked his ass very easily by spamming multifists/sword dance every round. If you don't want to use MP to heal have someone with hustle dance or get the sage's stone for 85 mini medals

>> No.3645109

>heroes MC
>Akuto changed to Luceus
>Mea changed to Aurora
>for reasons..

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with DQ localization team.

>> No.3645401

I guarantee there's either a shitty pun or a reference associated with those names, but nobody cares enough about the shitty Dragon Quest localizations to figure them out.

>> No.3645613

How are you spending your MP if you're having trouble?

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>tfw you did the island with the vines, finished the island with the wizards, went back to the island with the vines, and had to go back in time AGAIN to finish the island.

>> No.3646428

That's why its called Nottagen

Get it? Nottagen


>> No.3646476

I purposefully didn't call it that for that purpose

>> No.3646482

I swear DQ8 3DS is going to be a trainwreck with the town names and shit

Probably won't change the main characters name though

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"Not tagen"


"Not again"




>> No.3646653

gettin real sick of all this faggotry

>> No.3646658

Sorry anon, it never ends.

>> No.3646984

Count Uptaten! Lots of hilarious puns related to counting and numbers haha!

>> No.3649564

> El Ciclo
> The Cycle

I don't understand how people can hate the puns, they're great.

>> No.3649589

I managed to crash Dragon Quest Monsters

That counts as beating the game, right?

>> No.3650032 [DELETED] 

I've finally started playing Dragon Quest VII for the PS1. It's the only mainline Dragon Quest game I've never played before. Why is it so damn ugly?

>> No.3650036

I've finally started playing Dragon Quest VII for the PS1. It's the only mainline Dragon Quest game I've never played before. I'm not sure what to expect, so what do you guys think of it?

>> No.3650057

Puns are best when they're subtle. Like Braev Lee.

>> No.3650064

It puts a lot of emphasis into npcs, a lot of jobs and big world. Other than that i prefer 6, but i know faggots around here will call me a contrarian.

>> No.3650124

Sounds like you may be in luck after all


>> No.3650131


>> No.3650327

That's not subtle. Subtle is something you don't even recognize as a pun and you only find out later when someone tells you.

>> No.3650534

I just imported the game

Oh well

>> No.3651351

>tfw you fall for the DP on your own wakep

>> No.3651460


>> No.3651708

What, are you saying you never fall for the double penetration when you wake up?

>> No.3653846

you whiffed your post big time, missed the hitbox for fighting game general completely

>> No.3654348

>people actually think the puns in recent DQ games are exclusive to the localized versions

>> No.3654359

Most of them actually are. Like 90% of them.

>> No.3654450

>people actually make ridiculous claims like this even though they obviously haven't ever touched the JPN versions

>> No.3656620

Anyone tried that Classic DQ4 patch from the RH forums that replaces the DS script with the original from the NES version?
Looks good, and I never played the remake because the accents annoyed the hell out of me, so...

>> No.3657121

I just don't like the name change

unrelated but
>mfw just found out Angelo is called Kukuru in original

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Shit that came out? Didn't know that.

>> No.3657451

these job and weapon progression in DQH2 is killing my autism
I want to max them all. So many characters to use, only 4 fucking slots

the original cast is way better than Heroes 1. I fucking love Orneze, Cesare and Teresia

>> No.3657589


Can't find full DQIV one

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