So I heard that /vr/ likes fart noises

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Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:00:37 2016 No.3570452 [Reply] [Original]

So I heard that /vr/ likes fart noises

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:18:07 2016 No.3570483 /vr/ is full of contrarian hipsters, that's why they like farty SEGA Genesis music, like Streets of Rage, over Super NES music, like Super Castlevania IV.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:31:28 2016 No.3570505 >>3570452 Stop listening to emu recordings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:34:24 2016 No.3570512 >>3570505 Emus make farthing noises?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:44:46 2016 No.3570536 >>3570483 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY >Someone has different tastes than I do. >Obviously they must be a hipster! Never change /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:46:19 2016 No.3570542 >>3570512 They make fully aliased sound at least giving the sound more harsh nature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 13:49:10 2016 No.3570549 >>3570452 GLORIOUS FARTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOagvSmosBg

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 14:07:12 2016 No.3570581 >>3570452 That's not the SNES.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 14:08:31 2016 No.3570585 If you never learn to love the sound of crisp, live synthesis then you'll just never learn to love Mega Drive sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MozqL_HkHF4

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 14:20:00 2016 No.3570608 >>3570452 I chuckled, and I love the Gensis. Here, have some tasty farts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGCVvzCaik

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 14:25:40 2016 No.3570618

Lol, both systems have shitty audio processors. The SNES is low/muffled and very reverby. Genesis has farts and high pitch squeels.

But if done right SNES can sound fantastic and genesis sounds much like games in arcades.

Verdict: genesis has much clearer and nicer sound when used properly, much better than snes. But since its not always used properly I'd say more games on SNES have better soundtracks. So the genesis has the best potential for sound, but developers were better at making sound for SNES.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 15:10:35 2016 No.3570728 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGWSijvWxFI I unironically fucking love this track.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 15:20:26 2016 No.3570746 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJCQDbSn1w

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 16:03:23 2016 No.3570823 Here, have some pure, unadulterated farts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie1yVhXkpCU

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 16:13:22 2016 No.3570838

How could anybody prefer Genesis over Super Nintendo? It's not even a true 16 bit machine.

Genesis has only 64 colors like an 8 bit console.

Genesis still uses primitive non-sample based synthesis like an 8 bit console.

I really don't understand. It's just not fair that people like Genesis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 16:16:36 2016 No.3570846 File: 113 KB, 500x446, Genesis does.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3570838 >It's just not fair that people like Genesis. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 16:33:26 2016 No.3570875 File: 376 KB, 569x470, Reggie shitpost.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3570838 Please sir, shall i guide you to the noose?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 16:42:02 2016 No.3570893 >>3570728 try a recording that is less fucked up, it's decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8CmCG91gI

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 17:50:03 2016 No.3571009

>>3570838

Bit talk...thought that died in the 90s with the console wars. FM synthesis isn't something that's "8 bit". Do you even know how FM synthesis works? Do you know what a bit is? Do you understand how SNES sound sampler has such a limited memory that severely bottlenecks it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:06:07 2016 No.3571026 >>3570838 8-bits consoles weren't 64 colors FM synth was still used in some arcades until late 90s get fucked

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:06:44 2016 No.3571028 >>3570483 Theme of Simon (YM2612) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm7sT87AXFA

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:08:34 2016 No.3571032 >>3570893 Know anywhere I can find a proper recording of Starlight Zone from Sonic 1? The one floating around YouTube hardly sounds anything like my actual cart. I've only even had a model 1 Gen using headphone out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:16:06 2016 No.3571048 >>3570452 i love muh megadrive, i always did, but games like streets of rage or golden axe, i cant even go there because of the LOUD FARTING

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:17:03 2016 No.3571053 >>3571032 Try the same channel, those are real hardware recording. Also these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjePRDSxjyU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPLo8-zVWEQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:20:27 2016 No.3571059 >>3571048 kys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eN70eh9gvc

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:20:59 2016 No.3571062

>>3570452

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6f-tSK6RTw&list=PL297790C8658C53FA&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlVqDnlE6ZQ&list=PLEEC0D764EB9074BD&index=28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn1-0ElaYhI&list=PL0E86AA386BD11845

I sure love me some farts OP. Let me post some of my favorites.

And one for you fine fellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijEPu2dH4mM&index=21&list=PLirSddeMOYZ5ee1zRVpE9WwLEKQzCF2-3

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:32:58 2016 No.3571093 >>3570452 Gimme some "farts" bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nny-_SaGh9A

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 18:45:15 2016 No.3571109

>>3570483

The only contrarians are the console war kids/oldfarts who can't get over the fact not all people back in the day were poor as fuck and many of us could afford to have both SNES and Genesis.

Also, Australia-kun should be locked in a mental institute WITHOUT internet access, period.

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:37:05 2016 No.3571187

>>3570452
SNES fanboys praised the system for its superior audio-quality however many releases, including Zelda: Link To The Past, Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger, all sounded exactly the same as the previous generations NES titles. The cause of the SNES's shitty RAM and inability to stream from the cartridge was down to the programmers (mainly Japanese) being too poor to buy a good sound font. Thus they had to use GM, the shit you play for MIDIs in Microsoft Windows from DOS, and shortened them so they could fit it in Shigeru Miyamoto's ass. This resulted in a sound resembling something being played from a fucked-up cassette-recorder with clock-radio speakers. Most people remember the SNES for its orchestrated games but in retrospect they all sounded like complete shit taken to account how muddy the audio was. The music wasn't even that good. Some FF6 and Mariotards praise Nobuo Uematsu and Kji Kondo for "utilizing the power of SNES's sound hardware". Some argue that it at least sounded better than any music composed for the Genesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvKOx4uIPg

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:56:37 2016 No.3571219 >>3570452 Genesis is the patricians choice for audiophiles Why tf else does it have a headphone jack?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:59:46 2016 No.3571234 >>3571187 >Zelda: Link To The Past, Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger, all sounded exactly the same as the previous generations NES titles What. No, seriously. What? How can you possibly think those games sound at all like NES games? Are you high?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 20:02:49 2016 No.3571245 >>3571234 Shitposting is a art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 20:22:55 2016 No.3571265 Nintendo is what Genesisn't? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkP2BCviSuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRaczFXmd7I

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 20:26:37 2016 No.3571271 >>3571187 That extra sound quality sure is useful for hearing those farts in all their glory

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 20:41:11 2016 No.3571293 >>3571265 Those tracks are so comfy and this is coming from a Genesis fanboy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 21:02:38 2016 No.3571349 I'll never get this me me. I've tried and tried and tried but I cant hear these "farts" everyone else is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 21:15:15 2016 No.3571378 >>3571349 You will someday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWWIpECf3Sg

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 21:17:52 2016 No.3571384 Why does every SNES track sound like muffled cartoon trumpets?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 21:49:05 2016 No.3571426 genesis sound was pretty good, unfortunatelly for sega, the snes had the best soundchip of the generation soundwise: snes > neogeo > genesis > pc engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3anHMXmAr5Q

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 22:35:29 2016 No.3571508

>>3571426
To me the SNES's PCM tends to sound like cheap shitty sampled synths where the YM2162+SN76489 actually has some meat to it. Though I think the SNES does orchestral or atmospheric better than the Genesis, the Genesis kills the SNES in rock/heavy style of music. My only problem with the Genesis is it's too easy to make it sound like wet farts.

I'd also put the PC Engine higher than the SNES in terms of sound. I've worked with the Genesis and PCE and I've found that the PCE has better PCM than the Genesis but the wavetable synthesis keeps it from being another shitty sounding PCM sample machine from the 90's.

I'm more a PSG kind of person rather than PCM or FM so that kinda explains my PCE love.

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 22:55:24 2016 No.3571531
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Quick someone explain to someone with a surface-level knowledge of video game music tech (console makes audio output make noise by reading music files and changes the pitch of notes by reading certain bits in the music file) how FM synth works

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 23:02:40 2016 No.3571546 >>3570483 both consoles are ok,fuck it's like the 90s when I was at school , sega vs snes , I loved snes but when I grew up I learned to appreciate all the good games like popful mail and sonic 2 , the only shitty console I had was the cd I

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 23:03:29 2016 No.3571548

>>3571531
Well, your description is accurate for the SNES. On the SNES you have to load the system with sound samples and the system will play what is essentially a MIDI file, and it'll use those samples that were loaded and play them at different pitches to simulate instruments.

It's pretty similar on the Genesis, except there are no sound samples. FM stands for frequency modulation, which means each sound channel has a bunch of parameters you set the way you want, and what happens is the sound chip will generate a pure sine wave but use the settings to distort or modify it, so you get different sounds. And certain settings will change over time so you can get sounds that change while they're being played.

Genesis sound is pretty cool because of how unique it is, but the fact that you can't get "realistic" sounds is the main problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 23:24:06 2016 No.3571562 >>3571265 Its Berenstein!, i am pretty sure its Berenstein!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 00:02:09 2016 No.3571620 >>3570483 >Hipsters like Sega over Nintendo The delusion is strong with this one

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 00:14:14 2016 No.3571637 >>3571508 People also forget the Genesis has PSG too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 04:57:37 2016 No.3571964 >>3570452 >not down with the bleep-blop fuckin nugamer plebs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 05:24:29 2016 No.3571997 >>3570838 >64 colors >FM synthesis >these are somehow 8 bit shit Retards need to be euthanized

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 06:27:21 2016 No.3572050 >>3571548 >Genesis >unique What? a huge bunch of systems used fm synth so how can it be unique?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 06:29:44 2016 No.3572053 File: 65 KB, 438x423, 1475855557542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like Genesis farts They make everything sound metal

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 06:33:27 2016 No.3572058 File: 357 KB, 402x302, bnb.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Genesis rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXhq66CFS4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DnpZdJ_yY

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 07:40:10 2016 No.3572104 >>3571531 >and changes the pitch of notes by reading certain bits in the music file Different pitches are achieved by playing a sample faster or slower. It's that simple.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 00:01:50 2016 No.3573558 >>3572104 >how FM synth works >sample kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 01:07:08 2016 No.3573656 >>3572104 You're an idiot.

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 02:12:39 2016 No.3573730

>>3570838
>Genesis has only 64 colors like an 8 bit console.

64 out of 512 global color palette

Also the only reason games that were on SNES also had shit colors was because devs were idiots and went with mustard/saturated/greyish color palettes due to choice/lack of knowladge.

Just look at how many Genesis games are getting Patches to color correct them, SF2CE is the PERFECT EXAMPLE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZOrpJP7DUw

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 02:25:19 2016 No.3573746 Why were Sonic games so good at disguising the instruments that are so obviously heard in even the other great Mega Drive soundtracks?

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 02:55:53 2016 No.3573776
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genesis music sound more like buzzsaws than farts. In fact I have heard more snes music that sounds like midi farts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpXX1qN2ILc&list=PL0EDC0A321638BF84&index=2

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 03:51:07 2016 No.3573832 the genesis gives FM synth a bad name http://youtu.be/WuU4f9MI8no

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 04:47:22 2016 No.3573883 >>3570452 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18RLdMMJ9Y&list=PLirSddeMOYZ4PmDoymoNUwdoXoTsSQapR

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 04:54:36 2016 No.3573892 >>3570452 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqJQxWgOjJo Wew lad

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 05:25:43 2016 No.3573917

>>3573832
Im sure Ryu Umemoto or Ryu Takami could have made some amazing music for the Jenny. Its a shame they didn't.

Anyways here is some top tier fm synth on gene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSoW_CnwHB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pGvfMx5TZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFImEqSFsNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J-EWsc-V_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl8FI5vxhoY

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 05:27:54 2016 No.3573919 >>3571109 >Australia-kun Your boogeyman/strawman should be locked in a mental institute? I think you should join.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 05:30:32 2016 No.3573920 >>3570608 holy fuck that boxart is an abomination

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 06:02:37 2016 No.3573941

>>3573917
here are a few more top tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIGHrFJkOjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcL9OTPitwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L_dwhze0TE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVHmkZXS9yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6R9NSXuPz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qH-yr_84Sw

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 08:00:38 2016 No.3574060 >>3573558 >>3573656 he's talking about how SNES-like hardware would work though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 08:26:23 2016 No.3574090 File: 14 KB, 327x240, 88.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3572058 >tfw there's no good metal rendintion of Full Metal Fighter like there is for Metal Squad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM HEIKIIIIIIIIII

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 08:39:57 2016 No.3574103 This thread is making me feel alright about the fact that my Genesis is one of the tail-end Model 1's that have a VF7 board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 09:32:35 2016 No.3574171 >>3570452 >fart noises Pretty much every game that falls under that description used Sega of America's GEMS sound driver.

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 10:10:40 2016 No.3574203

I'm pretty sure OP just wanted a mega drive music thread. I don't approve of troll OPs but I do love mega drive music so I'll post some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjaW4ZYzVHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDXxGsEzxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxP5lH6DBkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF_BaqtJOAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLr_B3uYVHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5b8CNZKshA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HhIcbZ5LeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENqIz_x5jU

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 16:08:59 2016 No.3574745 File: 23 KB, 292x268, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3571109 >muh only poorfags can be console warriors meme I could have bought a SNES (seeing as I had a fulltime job in the '90s), but I didn't, because Nintendo a shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 16:39:49 2016 No.3574815 File: 3 KB, 173x137, Namnlös4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3574745 Yeah we all know the amiga is the only good 16bit gaming machine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 19:56:45 2016 No.3575164 >>3574745 >proving the only poorfags can be console warriors meme

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 20:04:16 2016 No.3575174 >>3574815 Don't forget PC Engine, Mega Drive, and Neo Geo. >>3575164 How so?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 20:17:02 2016 No.3575192 File: 672 B, 52x44, Namnlös5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3575174 >PCE >16bit No >Mega Drive Are you implying something with fm-synth can even be good? >Neo Geo Are you implying something with fm-synth can even be good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 20:25:11 2016 No.3575213 >>3570549 Pffffft, there's barely any farting at all in that. I'd say it sounds practically fartless except for that farty bass. Here's some goddamn farts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oyweqZ7WM

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 20:26:07 2016 No.3575216 >>3575192 >FM synth is inherently bad Hello Autismoposter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 20:27:11 2016 No.3575218 File: 2 KB, 98x99, Namnlös2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3575216 FM-synth is only bad when it's a console australia-kun likes

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 21:23:12 2016 No.3575293

>>3574171
Earthworm Jim and Cool Spot both used GEMS but Tommy Tallarico is a good composer and knew how to make it sound good. But I agree the default sound drivers were not optimal for custom fm synth sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLn7z5x2Rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7KXrj8s64

Anonymous Fri Oct 21 21:33:47 2016 No.3575319

>>3571265
One thing I think the SNES lacks in music is the ability to tell which company the game is from just by the "instruments" used. You could do it for NES and Genesis. A Capcom game SOUNDED like a Capcom game, Konami games had a very distinct sound.
On the SNES everything had the same sampled sound.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 04:37:16 2016 No.3575829 >>3570452 lol shit tier sound on the shit tier genesis, a console for literal autists

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 05:52:51 2016 No.3575896 File: 49 KB, 1158x608, BDHBlackMirror.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://youtu.be/YF99oeiaznk

Anonymous Sat Oct 22 10:43:02 2016 No.3576196

>>3575174
>i totally could have bought a snes in the 90's because i'm totally not underage and totally had a full time job at the time.
That's how so.
I had a part time job in the early 90's and had a PCE+CD, Genesis, SNES, Neo Geo, Amiga, PC, and a buttload of stuff that came before including a few arcade cabs. Most of my friends who were into gaming had similar stuff.
No gamer who was an adult with a real job in the 90's didn't have a SNES because it was poppy shitty poo poo. The guy I replied to probably wasn't even born when the SNES was released and is underage flipping burgers part time for minimum wage today.

Anonymous Sat Oct 22 10:47:47 2016 No.3576206

>>3571531
In the Genesis soundchip there are 6 channels of sound with each channel having a single FM voice. In the Genesis FM synthesis implementation a single FM voice consists of 4 operators which are basically a digital sine wave generator with an ASDR envelope (to control the level of the operator's output over time). You can configure the operators into different combinations to create different instrument sounds. Operators will be either carriers or modulators. Carriers are the operators that are actually heard. Their output is generated into audio that the chip outputs. Modulators always come before carriers in sequence and they modulate the carriers. So in other words modulators shape the timbre of the instrument. To compare to subtractive synthesis the carriers are almost like VCA's in that part of their responsibility is to control loudness and the carriers are like the filter in that they are responsible for altering the timbre.

The soundchip has many 8-bit sized registers that control a different aspect of the 6 channel FM synth on the chip. You basically call up the address of the register and plug in an appropriate value. It's a lot of work but for each channel you have to input the instrument settings, specify pitch, and trigger the "key on" register. With creative use of the 6 channels you could do chords and with creative use of the operator settings you could do evolving "acid" type sounds like Yuzo Koshiro did in Streets of Rage 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 12:15:31 2016 No.3576315 >>3570452 Op you clearly have had been fucked deep in your eardrums by Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 17:55:35 2016 No.3576864 >>3573883 Love that soundtrack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrDkvhTmUvA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 17:59:15 2016 No.3576871 >>3575213 Here is how it might have sounded like if it hadn't been ported by incompetents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AztvCF9XsBo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 18:01:43 2016 No.3576872 >>3575293 CD Versions > Genesis > SNES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BLJZnqq4U Normally, I'd defend the Genny, but this is just pure sex.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 19:53:24 2016 No.3577024 >>3573832 Ehem, nigger............... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46-mGN1D9z8 Yeah, pretty sawchain farts right there

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 19:56:30 2016 No.3577029 >>3570452 OP is baiting for attention, and was born after 1993...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 22 20:10:11 2016 No.3577050 >>3576872 true nothing can beat the sega cd version.

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