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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3512095

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/GnWMDhg0

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Doom download: https://yadi.
sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.3519180

===NEWS===

[09-23] Anon map release: Fanta Base (for vinesauce contest)
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/q4ASm87y/file.html

[09-21] Final versions of Anon's DUMP 3 weapons
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ki532dzm1zoutml/Bio%20Eradicator.pk3?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9wueq78yvkhuso/Flakchette.pk3?dl=0

[09-19] MetaDoom v1.0 "Slayer" for the new GZDoom
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53010

[09-19] GZDoom 2.2.0 released (with flat sprites, after all)
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7165

[09-17] Doomradio: Intermission E1M2
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1670101

[09-16] Hexen Souls Dev Blog
http://hexen-souls.tumblr.com/

[09-15] The Flat Sprites Debacle
http://kinsie.tumblr.com/post/150415693677/metadoom

[09-14] Mutiny community project final version released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1668971

[09-13] Angst Rahz Revenge Doom TC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE8DAj-rX0Y [Embed]

[09-13] GZDoom Autobuilder currently down
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7146

[09-12] Unconstrained Aspect Ratio for ZDoom
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=939096

[09-12] What should the name of the Booty project be?
http://notepoll.com/p/what-should-the-name-of-the-booty-project-be

[09-11] Anon map release: exit.wad (boom compatible, requires cc4-tex)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpMEgzT2wyOXQ3Z2M/view?usp=sharing

[09-10] Vinesauce mapping contest: 150 submissions were made
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/774307787643969536

[09-09] Proper HUD Scaling
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53440

[09-09] Interloper by Notlea
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/intrlpr

===

TO SUBMIT NEWS REPLY/BACKLINK TO THIS POST.

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Second for /tg/

>> No.3519204

>>3519186
awesome

>> No.3519229

>>3512684
What map is that?

>> No.3519230 [DELETED] 
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So what was the record for beating Doom levels on nightmare? I'm assuming nobody got through the last level of knee-deep in dead, which is 8.

Welp, after some couple of hours I'm in mission 4. Habbit of having at least 3 savestates for "A-OK", "kinda risky at this point" and "likely impossible" is definitely helpful.
But by god is it a good waste of half an hour to get the blood going, adrenaline and all that shite in the cold autumn morning.

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>>3519186
https://soundcloud.com/plastiware/at-jazzs-gate-doom-e1m1-jazz-remix

>> No.3519236

>blank filename.png

same person as the mm8dm shitter.

>> No.3519241

>>3519186
Haha - awesome!

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>>3519236
> not having a programm to delete the filename
Bruh.

>> No.3519245 [DELETED] 

>>3519236
> several people mention mm8dm several time
>> shitter
I think you're the only one here who's shitter. And I don't even know what the fuck it means other than some deathmatch.

>> No.3519251
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3519251

So I beat TNT, which makes it a final doom. What now? Any other official releases I've missed?

I guess, I haven't played resurrection for doom 3 yet, and I dropped lost levels of doom 3 since at some point it seemed to just flow into the main campaign (does it btw or is lost levels a whole new campaign that's similar at point?), but aside from that is it time for duke nukem now? What about it?

>> No.3519265

>>3519251
I'm guessing you already played Plutonia?

>> No.3519278

>>3519265
> which makes it a final doom
Good guess, anon. I take it, you read my post?

>> No.3519280

>>3519229
anyone?

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>>3519234
1/1 this is marvelous.

Unfacetiously: you may have just introduced me to jazz.
Where can I download this piece?

>> No.3519284

>>3519280
One of the Japanese Community Mapset.

>> No.3519287

>>3519284
Following up, the map is actually called "my fave", he's not saying that's his favorite map

bunch of fruits on the map
JP-CP

>> No.3519291

>>3519283
Another noteworthy track from this guy. https://soundcloud.com/plastiware/spark-mans-electrobarn-breakdown

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>>3519190
Thanks for reminding me that I'll never have these miniatures. Jerk.

>> No.3519309

Somebody posted a webm about a half a dozen threads ago of E1M1 with a fuckton of fancy effects, like there was lighting, blood, fireballs, it was ridiculous. And no, it's not fucking bd.

>> No.3519317

>>3519309
Risen3D?

>> No.3519328

>>3519317
Lighting seems to be it, but I think the models and textures were old. There was cool new blood and amazing looking fireballs though. What I see on youtube is shit.

>> No.3519334

>>3519328
Sounds like Vavoom with hi-res textures and models

>> No.3519342

>>3519334
Definitely not fucking vavoom. Shit.

>> No.3519346

>>3518014
Who's this semen demon?

>> No.3519358

>>3519342
I'm stumped. Could be a shitty Doomsday mod, the only way to know is to see the video.

>> No.3519362

>>3519317
where download. im be assuming you can turn off the shitty models and shits back to original? the official site redirects to avira warning

>> No.3519363

>>3519358
I think it said risen3d in the title, just there were no retarded 3d models of monsters, and at the end near the exit there was this great lightshow of light through the net-like thing and it was amazing.

>> No.3519364

>>3519309
Why not go back and look for it? Every DOOM thread links to the previous thread, so if it's only a few threads back and you can recognize the thread if you see it, it shouldn't be too hard to find.

>> No.3519365

>>3519362
>Using Avira

Also, it locks Trilinear filtering on

>> No.3519375

>>3519364
I'm not 100% sure it was half a dozen threads ago and not half a dozen months.

>> No.3519376

Are there jumpscares in Unloved?

>> No.3519379
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>>3519346

>>3519376
There is a sudden scream in the hubworld, but not much more.

The shadow imps can catch you off guard though.

>> No.3519384

>>3519379
Scream as in screamer or just the sound?

>> No.3519387

>>3519384
Just the sound. I can't recall any screamers.

>> No.3519402

>>3519387
That sounds like something I can handle.
Thank you!

>> No.3519403

>>3519402
I can't guarantee it though. But as far as screamers go you are safe.

Be ready for some slaughter map like gameplay later on.

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It's been another week, time for the drill.

Post your shit, what you're working on, what you're making, what you're drawing, what you're mapping, what you're coding, etc.

>> No.3519405

>Next Quake Map Jam is about Film Noir

Okay? Like, all the previous themes had something that Quake supported aesthetically by its textures. I doubt you can make tech bases, castles and eldritch worlds Noir by just desaturating them.

>> No.3519407

>>3519404
Nothing related to Doom I'm afraid.

>> No.3519414

>>3519407
As if we care
now post it

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>>3519404
Haven't started texturing yet, but this is what I have so far. Part of my 1024 mini-wad I'm working on. All the buttons and scripting is all done, but I might do a complete overhaul for it. I feel like it's too focused on pushing buttons instead of just going through the level. Won't be done anytime soon because of school and work, but it's getting there.

one day

>> No.3519423

>>3519407
post it, fgt

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chaingun needs more love

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>>3519404
Been working on a test level of sorts for hexen souls.

Mapping certainly isn't my strong suit, and yes, I know the map is very grey, I'm still working out what looks best.

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>>3519435
And what Dark Souls inspired mod wouldn't be complete without an unnecessarily fuck-huge door?

>> No.3519459

>>3519436
needs more skeletons

>> No.3519463

>>3519434
What a qt!
I don't recognize her tho.

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>>3519434

>> No.3519472

>>3519435
>>3519436
looks good

>> No.3519479

>>3519459
Yeah, it does. I need some good skeleton sprites.

>>3519472
cheers anon.

>> No.3519483

>>3519467
amazing

>> No.3519485

>>3519467
So hot
hnnnng

>> No.3519495

Is there a way to have vanilla type skyes in non-tube like fashion in GZDoom?

>> No.3519496

>>3519495
no becuase graf hates you

>> No.3519497

>>3519436
>>3519435
Awesome.

>> No.3519501

>>3519496
hey that's not the full picture

graf hates *everyone*

>> No.3519503

And don't forget linguortals

>> No.3519521

>>3519501
Hey that's totally not true
He loves his mother
probably

>> No.3519525

>>3519521
nope

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>>3519404
please /vr/, I have literally no idea what to put in this space to connect the two doors, i've been at this one map for months, please end my suffering

>> No.3519601

>>3519587
A rectangular room, divided in two by a ooze/slime/lava/etc pit.

You have to hit a switch to raise a bridge to connect the two, but the moment you do that, pillars lower down to reveal shotgunners.

>> No.3519603

>>3519587
Linedefs

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>>3519404
Trying out themed fog, eventually it will be based on the majority monster type/s present in the level.

>> No.3519607

>>3519604
Is that the Unreal 1 HUD in Doom?

>> No.3519609

>>3519587
telenportenrs

>> No.3519612
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>>3519607
I don't even remember what unreal HUD looks like

But I always liked the "doll" hud of UT, one quick glance tells you if you're wearing armor, where you're wearing it and if you got jump boots or shield belt on.

Speaking of which, epic megashits simplified armor system in UT2014 to quake tier.

>> No.3519616

>>3519587
a VERY detailed square box with archviles everywhere

>> No.3519623

>>3518960
whats the money for?

>> No.3519628

>>3519607
An MSPaint version, yes.

>> No.3519629

>>3519623
shake it baby

>> No.3519634

>>3519629
so are there gonna be male strippers or is mel les

>> No.3519639

>>3519634
mel likes the ladies, yeah.

>>3519623
Right now, for nothing than showing your economic worth is higher than your peers...but I've got plans, oh yes...

...plans which include being able to buy stuff and all that sorta stuff in the future.

>> No.3519642

>>3519639
what kinda stuff?

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>>3519628
Do you have a DL link? Thanks.

>>3519612
Pic related
Also, wasn't the armor simplified all the way back in 2K4?

>> No.3519662

>>3519309
PLEASE deliver that webm I'm curious

>> No.3519667

>>3519662
Why would you be curious for a vavoom webm

>> No.3519671

>>3519653
Pretty shite hud. UT was a massive improvement.

>Also, wasn't the armor simplified all the way back in 2K4?
Oh yeah, I don't remember 2k4 much either (it's crap). So yes now UT2014 has the 50 and the 100, and the 50's stack up to 100. Which in usual UT armor fashion would mean you're wearing thigh pads on your shoulders.

>> No.3519672

>>3519604
what's the map there? your own?

>> No.3519673

>>3519667
It's 99% risen3d

>> No.3519678

>>3519667
not him but i'm vaguely curious too, just to be reminded of what everyone is talking about. that said, i don't care enough to go looking.

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>>3519673
>risen3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCigiEuRvrA

>> No.3519684

>>3519681
Jesus that looks awful.

>> No.3519686

>>3519684
but it's not risen3d

>> No.3519689

>>3519379
Oh. Looked cuter in the other pic.

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>>3519639
Well right now the vague plan is to be able to buy mods for weapons you pick up (like getting full-auto pistol, different shell types, etc. etc.), as well as other things that are kind of in the oven at the moment. Probably won't be in the next build though.

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Anyone else here prefer both Wolf3D and Quake to Doom?

Currently playing Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod and shit is fun.

>> No.3519701

>>3519671
Yeah, as affectionate as I am for the U1 HUD, I must admit the UT99 one was better, as you could quickly tell how much of each armor type you had.
Also, 2K4 didn't have ShieldBelts. BLASPHEMY

>> No.3519703

>>3519681
Learn to read: the textures and monsters were ORIGINAL.
That looks dope though.

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slowly plodding along.

I really liked how Dark Souls handled item drops, as souls on a corpse, it was really cool

>> No.3519709

>>3519701
>Also, 2K4 didn't have ShieldBelts. BLASPHEMY
It had shield guns and adrenaline combos for regenaration. It's all good. Really not

>> No.3519710

>>3519681
Your Path Of Destruction: The Sequel

>> No.3519716

FINAL DOOM = DONE. What now? Any later or more obscure official releases or should I take on duke/quake now?

>> No.3519721

>>3519234
How do you download it?

>> No.3519725

>>3519653
I don't, it's for the mod I'm working on and isn't really meant for default Doom (That's 10 ammo bars there!).

>>3519672
It's MAP01 of BloodStain.

>> No.3519726

>>3519716
now you spend the rest of your life playing ten thousand PWADs

>> No.3519729

>>3519709
The shield gun was fucking useless, it drained ammo too quickly. Also, the only gud 'drenaline combo was the one that turned you into a wall pillar, that still cracks me up to this day.

>> No.3519736

>>3519716
master levels? no rest for the living?

>> No.3519739

Speaking of Risen3D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_9LzKS6s4
Is it just me, or is that BJ Blaskowicz from RTCW?

>> No.3519752

>>3519739
>Speaking of Risen3D:
If it wasn't for hilariously inept animations on display this might have been a halfway decent novelty port

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>>3519404
Spent today putting together a document to hopefully help mappers from doomworld. Whether it's actually useful or not, we'll see.

Next I gotta look into setting up a doombuilder cfg to make mapping for REKKR easier. Anyone know anything about that?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWEjvTgOOQ

>FUCK YOU YOU BASTARD MUTANT PIECE OF SNAIL SHIT

>> No.3519768

>>3519725
>It's MAP01 of BloodStain.
hmm i thought bloodstain was more hellish

>> No.3519769

>>3519736
Done.

>> No.3519771

Final Doom isn't even worth playing.
It's just bad.

>> No.3519772

>>3519771
plutonia is fun

>> No.3519773

Okay so after briefly playing with risen3d, it does SEEM to feature some effects that were in that webm namely potions, fireballs and maybe some more minor things, but I remember definitely seeing some blue light going through the net-like barrier (like the 2 before the exit in e1m1 or something). Unless I'm mixing 2 webms together.

But the waste is still without that effect and, again, lighting is not as detailed.

>> No.3519774

>>3519764
>nuoooo I killed every one of those bastards!

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>map gives you a shitton of energy cells and puts the plasma rifle behind a secret and expects you to find it to deal with a cyberdemon that will block you if you dont

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>>3519764
The enemy models are actually better than the Generations models, simply because they're based off the vanilla sprites. Could use more polys tho.

>> No.3519782

>>3519778
They fucking suck and are shit, period. There's nothing more retarded than going from 2d that works to 3d that's shit. And even worse than that is putting great 2d effects together with shitty 3d models.

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>>3519404

Been working on a private mod for some friends to play.

>> No.3519791

>>3519782
Still, the YPOD models are (slightly) less retarded than the Risen3D ones, probably cos they don't look like stuff from a Digital Homicide game.

>> No.3519803

>>3519587
A garden-like corridor, put a secret zone to the north, and a window that allows you to see it from that corridor.

>> No.3519807

>>3519782
If john romero wasn't a useless piece of shit he could've LADAR scanned the clay originals (cyberdemon is definitely still intact, and some others)

But until risen3D gets skeletal animation support the models will still shuffle unconvincingly about like gerry anderson puppets

>> No.3519808

I remember there being a Minimap mod talked around here. It was based around generating a map image with software, then scrolling it around in the corner of player's view as he moves around with an ACS script.

Anybody knows what came out of it?

I posted this here already and got no replies.

I remember template colors were white lines on cyan background.

>> No.3519813

>>3519778
killing that poor thing'd be doing it a favour

>> No.3519816

>>3519807
Heres the thing tho. I dont NEED anythinig 3d in doom. I just want cool effects like blood spilling, supersymmetric ultradynamic coloured lighting, amd shit

Explosions in risen3d are shit by the way, fucking shit.

>> No.3519818

>>3519808
only very vaguely, wasn't it years ago ?

>> No.3519820

>>3519778
Axehead


Also any news on REKKR?

>> No.3519825

>>3519816
I'm one of those weirdos who prefers quake aesthetic to doom

doom will always have the advantage of slaughter maps though, thanks to sprites

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>>3519404

>> No.3519835

>>3519818
No. Years ago there was a pull request for minimap into the base ZDoom. It was rejected for not being customizable enough.

The one im talking about is an ACS script, and was discussed a few weeks ago. I remember the guy getting incorrect movement due to not taking aspect correction into account, he fixed it, and then was discussing it for some more. After that I wasn't visiting much, so release or whatever was there slipped under my radar.

>> No.3519837

>>3519820
I'm not saying I prefer 3D, I'm just stating that the YPOD models are less dope than the Risen3D/Vavoom ones.

>>3519807
>But until risen3D gets skeletal animation support the models will still shuffle unconvincingly about like gerry anderson puppets

Low vertex accuracy 4lyf

>> No.3519839

>>3519692
oo neat

>> No.3519850

How do I git gud at Project MSX? Those goat imps wreck me too quickly.

>> No.3519858

>>3519850
Rifle/Pistol-Butt them. They always die in one or two hits.

>> No.3519891

what happened

>> No.3519907
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>>3519891
hell froze over & came up to earth for warmth

>> No.3519920

>>3519907

Every time I see that hideous hud, I cringe at the thought that there are people who actually think it looks good.

>> No.3519925

>>3519920
My thoughts with Project MSX as a whole.

>> No.3519928

>>3519925
MSX is actually barable and not as clutered.

>> No.3519930
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3519930

>>3519920
>>3519925
the jelly is real

>> No.3519937

How do you guys organize your doom shit? My doom shit is just such a mess.

Someone needs to make like an itunes for doom or something.

>> No.3519938

>>3519930
>HUD
>226 Mb

Kill it with plasma then glass the earth.

>> No.3519939

>>3519930
holy shit 200+ mb for a fucking hud

how horrifying

>> No.3519940

>>3519930
>222.46mb

WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.3519941

>>3519930

Every day we stray further and further from Carmack's love.

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>>3519930
>almost 40k people downloaded this piece of shit

>> No.3519948

>>3519942
those 40k are probablty Halo kiddies that are used to this shit and think this is the norm

>> No.3519951
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3519951

>>3519937

Pic related is how I organized my WADs and stuff.

>> No.3519956

>>3519937
Each source port has its own folder
All the IWADs go in one folder
PWADs are in the same folder as the source port executables for easy drag and drop, some have multiple copies if I want to play them in a different source port
Level sets are in uppercase while gameplay mods are in lowercase

>> No.3519959

>>3519951
What's the difference between a TC with no maps and a gameplay mod?

>> No.3519964

>>3519959

My reasoning is that if the mod essentially makes DOOM into a whole different game, it qualifies as a TC rather than a simple gameplay mod. Even if the maps are untouched.

Though, perhaps I should give my organization a touch up.

>> No.3519970

>>3519959
>>3519964

I should provide an example: I classify DemonSteele as a TC with the reasoning I mentioned, while I consider; to randomly pick a mod; Samsara as a gameplay mod because playing with Samsara still feels like DOOM, just with different characters.

>> No.3519985

>>3519964
>>3519970

Yeah, that's fair.

>> No.3519995

How do you 200 min speedmap well?

>> No.3520008

Has anyone ever beaten Doom using only a mouse?

>> No.3520016

>>3519606
fully agree, just like how the plasma rifle is a chaingun doing plasma things, or the rocket launcher is a shotgun doing shotgun things

>> No.3520018
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>>3520008
Probably.

>mouse turning
>using mouse to move backwards and forward
>bind a button for mouse strafing (or if you have a tilting wheel, use that)
>bind left button as shoot
>bind right button as open
>bind mousewheel for selecting weapons
>always run, no time to stop
>using menu to save isn't really part of the actual gameplay so keyboard can still do that

It takes some getting used to I imagine, but it could likely be very smooth and fast.

>> No.3520057

>>3519930
>a lot of people have eaten a ~200Mb download for a single file so it must be good
memes

>> No.3520078

>>3520008
>>3520018
It's not that hard. My preference is:
> Mouse turning and forward/backwards movement
> Left button to shoot
> Right button for mouse strafing
> Mid button to move forward which is better than having to slide the mouse all the time.
> Mouse wheel for selecting weapons (IIRC that doesn't work on the vanilla executable, so you would still have to use the numbers in there).
>Double right mouse button to use/open (Yes, vanilla supports that).
>Menu stuff still requires a keyboard, yes.

>> No.3520091

>>3519405
old castle maybe
like, go rescue the mayor's daughter in the cultist-ridden manor/castle

>> No.3520101

>>3519405
time to rip textures like there's no tomorrow, start with kingpin

and don't forget to put fedoras onto ogres

>> No.3520109

>>3519930
Sp why it is so bloated?

>> No.3520117
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3520117

How can I edit a mod so that weapon swapping is instant?

>> No.3520126

>>3520117
http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_Raise

>> No.3520131
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>>3519179

What's a good spooky (mainly hell/medieval maps) megawad that doesn't devolve into a slaughterfest

>> No.3520135

>>3520117
Make A_Raise work in 0 tics.

>> No.3520139

>>3520131
Bloodstain has some medieval maps, and some really fucking good hell maps, it doesn't get very slaughtery except in a select few instances.

The gameplay of the .wad is kind of intended for you to use cover a lot though, so consider that.

>> No.3520146
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>>3520139

Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks.

>> No.3520164

>>3520135
>>3520126
Got it working, thanks yall

>> No.3520179

>>3519706
Ooh, neato.

>> No.3520205

>>3519179
Any good megawads that are Plutonia level difficulty or lower on UV? I want to ease my way onto the harder ones like Sunlust and Ancient Aliens.

>> No.3520207

>>3520205
Alien Vendetta.

>> No.3520208

>>3519287
i found a hom in that map. while spectating the author playing it.

feels bad man!

>> No.3520214

>>3520207
Admittedly the late levels became too much for me to handle, but thanks anyway

>> No.3520221

>>3520214
Then you keep practicing until it clicks.

You won't be able to do Sunlust if you can't handle AV.

Shit level 2 of Sunlust is harder than AV.

>> No.3520271
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>>3520008
I've done it once with a Razer/Belkin Nostromo.
Awhile back I had repetitive strain injury on my right wrist (not because computer stuff, but I work as a freighter and I constantly cut open boxes and grip things improperly), so it would hurt to use a mouse for a long time.

Had one of these lying around, gave it a go. It was okay.

>> No.3520273

>>3520271
e r g o n o m i c s

>> No.3520276

>>3520271
what the fuck is that.

>> No.3520280

>>3520273
I T ' S A L L I N Y O U R H A N D

>> No.3520291
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>>3520276
That is one-fifth of a keyboard. Here is one-fourth.

The main appeal of these is supposed to be the ergonomics, but they're expensive as fuck and obviously won't replace a proper keyboard.

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>> No.3520305
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>>3520303
Doom memes

>> No.3520307 [SPOILER] 
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3520307

>>3520305

>> No.3520308

>>3520305
>>3520307
CHRISTIAN
BOARD

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>>3520308
Fine, have some hugging

>> No.3520319

>>3519303
The Spider Mastermind looks kinda bad compared to the others. Pretty small, too.

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>>3520305

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>> No.3520327

>>3520319

According to http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Reaper_Miniatures it's supposed to be an arachnotron.

>> No.3520334

>>3520221
>Shit level 2 of Sunlust is harder than AV.

Huh? Level 2 of Sunlust is easy.

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>>3519681
jesus fuck

>> No.3520347
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>make mediocre but flashy mod years ago
>It's your most famous mod, and people want you to update it
>but you have no passion for it anymore

Getting into modding was a mistake

>> No.3520351

>>3520347
I wonder if Android/iOS devs think the same thing with their software

>> No.3520367

>>3520326
fuck, any more anon

>> No.3520371
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3520371

So... Where's the guy who posted the risen3d webm?

>> No.3520372

>>3519716
play quake and the two official expansions, they're phenomenal.

>> No.3520374

>>3519716
You forgot ID's pol.

>> No.3520386

>find fun server
>everyone start leaving minutes into my arrival
>jump to another server and it happens again
It can't be coincidence

>> No.3520402

>>3519930
What people fail to realize is that the reason it is so big is because it has a shit load of files to make the hud compatible with other mods and a lot of other various shit

>> No.3520404

>>3519787
DoomPaint

>> No.3520408
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3520408

>>3519787
Neat. Speaking of: what unconventional mods are out there for Z&? Like Who Dun It, or DoomPaint here? That sort of thing.

pic unrelated

>> No.3520416

So whats the story with hdoom anyway?

>> No.3520423

>>3520416
Someone wanted to make a Doom mod where you fucked the monsters instead of killing them and the monsters look like anime girls a bit. It's not much.

>> No.3520426

>>3520423
Did they make it?

>> No.3520427

>>3520416

I heard a story that it was designed as a response to Brutal Doom's ultra-violence, but I don't remember the details or even whether that's true.

>> No.3520428

>>3520427

I heard the same thing from Mike, he specifically wanted everything tongue in cheek and really lighthearted. That's why nobody dies, not even the protag, you just run out of stamina and pass out, same thing with the monster girls.

>> No.3520447

>>3519309

Pls tell me when that anon shows up

>> No.3520473

>>3519820

>>3519758

>> No.3520481

>>3519820
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/90862-rekkr-anyone-wanna-map-for-a-vanilla-tc/

>> No.3520527

>>3519435
Would you happen to mind sharing the sprites for the fire? Looking everywhere for something simple like that, but all I can find is ridiculous particle spam crap.

>> No.3520530

>>3520527
it's the flame on the firestorm pickup in hexen

>> No.3520531

>>3519695
I'm in that camp, but I play Doom more than either of those just because of the MASSIVE modding community. I mean Quake and Wolf3D aren't slouches either, but come on, Doom is the most modded game in history by far. So that's probably why I keep coming back to it.

But, yeah, I prefer Wolf and Quake to Doom, gameplay wise. Wolfenstein's high-octane hitscan action gets my heart pumping, and Quake's somber, dark, medieval, surreal worlds are a joy to lose myself in.

>> No.3520536

>>3520530
thanks bro

>> No.3520645

>>3520531
>I'm in that camp, but I play Doom more than either of those just because of the MASSIVE modding community.
i assumed he meant the original levels of the mentioned games. if you include user modifications of course doom will "win"

>> No.3520647

>>3520645
then why would he have mentioned wolf3d mods

>> No.3520649

let's make a quake mod

>> No.3520653

>>3520647
i suppose i read "Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod" as gameplay mods, not new levels. i'll go and kill myself now.

>> No.3520663

>>3520531
I don't enjoy the kind of maps Doom's community have been producing and the novelty of gameplay mods last shorter and shorter for me.

What I mainly enjoy about Wolf3D and Quake over Doom is the level design. I just find them more fair and balanced games. I hate having to save in the middle of a level and I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity. How do I know that running past a swarm of monsters teleporting in is the best choice when other similar encounters block the player's way out? Is staying put and holding your ground the best option? I only get the solution to such encounters right half the time and I usually feel cheated. MAP02 of Mutiny is a good example of a map that features such encounters and reminded me why I don't enjoy most user made maps.

Wolf3D only has one ammo type so you always know what to use and it doesn't have teleporter traps or monster closets. Even the weakest enemies are extremely deadly and are capable of killing the player in a couple seconds yet they are easy to anticipate. I enjoy tactical shooters and this game is the prototypical one.

Quake has four ammo types just like Doom, but their distribution is more even and predictable (thanks in part to Ogres dropping rocket ammo). I commonly hear from people that Quake is a lesser game than Doom because of its bulletsponges, but I can only assume that the only reason why people who say that have that kind of experience with the game is because they're still playing it like Doom--using the shotgun all the time and stockpiling rocket ammo. Quake's level design features most of the same tricks from Doom, monster closets, teleporter traps, crushers, etc. but the levels made with the game are just more fair than Doom's and the use of teleporters is more limited. These qualities are reflected in its user made maps, they feel fair and I never feel cheated when I die.

>> No.3520667

>>3520653
>I enjoy tactical shooters and this game is the prototypical one.
I'm so glad at last someone else here sees this.

>> No.3520668

>>3520667
Meant to quote >>3520663

>> No.3520671

>>3520663
>I commonly hear from people that Quake is a lesser game than Doom because of its bulletsponges, but I can only assume that the only reason why people who say that have that kind of experience with the game is because they're still playing it like Doom--using the shotgun all the time and stockpiling rocket ammo
I'd be willing to bet a big part of it is Doom players being surprised that Quake's super shotgun only does double-ish damage instead of the three times damage the Doom 2 SSG does (hence its usage as the go-to gun for EVERYTHING once you get it).

>> No.3520679

>>3520671
>being surprised that Quake's super shotgun only does double-ish damage instead of the three times damage the Doom 2 SSG
And doublish the damage of a pistol-role light shotgun at that.

>> No.3520695

>>3520679
To be fair, the standard shotgun is always useful, like when there's Scrags floating around out of SSG range and you don't want to use your nails/can't aim well enough to predict. I find myself using it way more often than Doom's pistol, at least.

>> No.3520702
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>scar3crow: Why does Quake have nailguns rather than machineguns?
>John Romero: Because it's different :)
>scar3crow: That it is, and makes for more thrilling visuals in a deathmatch seeing a swarm of nails coming your way from a SNG wielding rival marine.
>John Romero: I think it came out of the fact that we had a huge Jesus mural on the wall so we thought it would be funny to just blast the nails into him.

>> No.3520727

>>3520695
Oh no, I didn't mean it wasn't useful at all. It's rapid fire and tight spread comes in handy a lot of times.

>> No.3520728

>>3520702
Romero's my favorite edgelord.

>> No.3520730

>>3520728

He's a cheeky edgelord. He's the kind that makes all of his edgy remarks with the biggest fucking grin.

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>>3519681

>> No.3520745

>>3520728
>those rejected Doom exit quotes
Based Romero

>> No.3520769

>>3520347
What was it?

And it's okay to move on, your past work won't be who you are.

GMOTA Guy isn't just that GMOTA Gu-FUCK
I'm kidding of course

>> No.3520771

>>3520347
Are you the Dakka guy?

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>>3520769

To be fair my other projects aren't as well recieved, look at combined_arms and blastmaster.

Though blastmaster was mainly me just going full retard and seeing what I could get away with under 64kb, a tech demo and me playing with the tools at my disposal. Gonna be recyling a lot of the code and ideas from that into other projects.

On the plus side I've been donating code and weapons to other projects too, DRLA's getting an altered version of the fists from Combined_Arms, and Term's making use of a removed projectile from GMOTA for the booty project

>> No.3520778

>>3520774
I thought Combined Arms was alright, only issue I had would be that despite the super shotgun replacement being alright it wasn't nearly as satisfying as the regular shotgun.

I think all you'd need to get well received is just playing it like GMOTA:
>Satisfying weapons
>Good music
>Fun enemies
>Don't go full retard like Zharkov or something
Not even saying something like Zharkov goes to the store is bad, just it's only something that is played for a little bit then left alone after the joke wears off.

That's what I got when my friends played it at least.

Unrelated note, is Hideous Destructor multiplayer compatible?

>> No.3520780

>>3520778

I'm genuinely flattered you like the monsters and weapons. Though I'm gonna tweak some of the monsters slightly to make them more managable in melee, because right now Hellfos are fucking shitbastards in melee because of that dagger spam I gave them.

I might make Chaos revenants spin less too, but I don't want to mess with those guys too much because they're a 12 out of 10 on the fun scale.

>> No.3520781

>>3520778

HD does have some support for multiplayer, but I don't know how well it works.

No Zandronum compatibility though, so I hope you can make ZDoom's netcode sing.

>> No.3520783

>>3520781
I have no idea how to make it run in multiplayer but it would be nice.

>>3520780
I still play GMOTA quite a bit and am really looking forward to the next update with all those new weapon attacks.

Just seeing the new thrown sword in that last webm alone looked nice.

>> No.3520785

>>3520774
Combined_Arms is one of my favorite gameplay mods ever.

>> No.3520798
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3520798

A bit of fluff, but I got the character selection looking pretty nice.

>> No.3520804

>>3520783
zdoom mp is really limited but works well enough most of the time
>open port 5029 in udp
>load wads in ZDL in multiplayer
>send your ip to your buddy, tell him to load the same wads (in the same order) and join using ZDL
and it should work
save often, desynch is your bane

>>3520798
the "random" bothers me when there's just two options as we have something more precise for that (a coin flip) but that's probably just me sperging out

>> No.3520832

Whats wrong with UDV? i think it looks nice

>> No.3520871

>>3519778
All doomguys coat their arms in Vaseline. It's handy for when you have to punch your arm up an imp's ass.

>> No.3520873
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Is there a use for argent cores in Metadoom yet? I'm sitting on six of them and unsure how to use them.

>> No.3520884

>>3520873
Argent Cores is just BFG ammo.

>> No.3520885

>>3520205
Reverie

>> No.3520887
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Anyone have any good centered sprites for a 9mm SMG and some kind of battle rifle?

>> No.3520894

>>3519525
[No]

>> No.3520895

>>3520887
Does an MP40 count

>> No.3520897

>>3520895
It could.

Anything in 9mm and used with two hands.

>> No.3520909
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>>3520887
Grab the one from Rise of the Triad, perhaps?

>> No.3520910

>>3520798
How did you go about creating the space background?

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>>3520909
Maybe.

I want to put a silencer on it too, and for it to be visibly distinct from not using a silencer, perspective matters a bit.

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What are some GOOD-ASS atmospheric spooky mods that don't have jumpscares.

>> No.3520951

>>3520941
Unloved.

>> No.3520954

>>3520941
Nihilism.
Strange Aeons.

>> No.3520957

>>3520910
Which part? If you're talking about behind the selection screen, that's the TITLEMAP which has a skybox for the fancy space shenanigans. If you're talking about the selection screen itself, that's mostly fancy brushes and gradients.

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>>3520941

AAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN SEE HIS SKELETON

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>>3520957
Release when anon my dick has been twitching uncontrollably on its own for days.

>> No.3520975

>>3520957
I mean, the pixely space part.

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>>3520941
>cyberlegs level 1

>> No.3521047

why are my guns invisible in D4D?

>> No.3521050

Are there any superhero themed gameplay mods?

>> No.3521064

>>3521047
nevermind, used a more recent gzdoom version and it got fixed.

>> No.3521068

>>3521050
Of course not, that would be stupid

>> No.3521079
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3521079

So what's the secret to using Oblige and not getting retarded levels?

>> No.3521089

>>3521068
You're no fun.

>> No.3521091

>>3521079
Not using it, and instead playing human created levels.

Honestly, I've played better maps in D!Zone than the crap that OBLIGE produces.

>> No.3521134

>>3521079
Get 7, idk what they did but its much better.

>> No.3521164

>>3521079
Trial and error.

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>>3521079
>>3521091
Strangely, it says "For Doom and Heretic" on the tin, but I can't find "Heretic" game on the menu.

It can generate some decent bits and pieces. Definitely not the worst thing ive seen, mileas ahead 90% of showelvare disks (other 10% being renown maps being put on the shovel)

>> No.3521179

>tfw hdoom is like three years old now
>tfw you remember mike showing off the first animations in this thread

>tfw it's still unfinished as fuck

>> No.3521221

>>3521169
OBLIGE can produce decent looking aesthetics. The problem is the gameplay. Theres no real structure to it, other than "populate the sectors". If you want some mindless fun, thats okay. But I will never accept the notion that its better than the gameplay found in 90% of shovelware maps.

>> No.3521245

>>3521221
Most shovelware maps do much worse job "populating the sectors", especially compared to 7.45 version that sets up teleport ambushes, monster closets, guards for the key items and switches, etc.

>> No.3521254

>>3521245
I've played a LOT of D!Zone and Maximum Doom, and I'm telling you right now, OBLIGE is no better in the gameplay side of things.

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3521295

Is there anything similar to quake injector for doom?

>> No.3521320

>sergeants are the most dangerous enemy in D4D besides the spiderdemon and cyber, even chaingunners and archviles are jokes now compared to them
How did that happen?

>> No.3521360

>>3521320
Whats d4d?

>> No.3521368

>>3521360
Doom(4) for Doom.

>> No.3521379

>>3520663
>I hate having to save in the middle of a level and I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity.
you sound like a pussy

>> No.3521403

>>3521368
What's the drill?

>> No.3521408

>>3521169
only really old versions (up to 4.28 ) handle heretic (and others), but they're really, really rough

>> No.3521440

>>3520663
I don't find myself being ''cheated'' if the map's well done, which is most of the time for my picks, because you'll have the bfg by the time the large group of archviles pop up.

Monster randomizer mods and ones that involve player progress like Doom RPG make it so that replayability lasts a ton for each wad. I don't feel that way for Quake or Wolf3D.

>> No.3521446
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So blue

>> No.3521449

>>3521446
Wad? I love blue

>> No.3521463
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Red

>>3521449
Japanese Doom Community Project

It's really only that one part of this level though.

>> No.3521470

>>3520663
>I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity. How do I know that running past a swarm of monsters teleporting in is the best choice when other similar encounters block the player's way out? Is staying put and holding your ground the best option? I only get the solution to such encounters right half the time and I usually feel cheated.

From my understanding, you hate it when maps are unpredictable?

>> No.3521479
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3521479

>>3521470

>> No.3521515

>>3521295

Doom Injector.
That's about it.

>> No.3521547

>>3521515
>Doom Injector
no such thing

>> No.3521593

>>3521379
you sound like you throw a fit everytime people argue about enemy balance, which makes this post extra amusing.

>> No.3521614

>>3521547

Pardon, Doom Launcher.

>> No.3521616

>>3520663
>Quake
>fair

Remember the shambler out of nowhere on hard in E1M3? And the SECOND shambler that spawns right after should you defeat the first one?

>> No.3521625

>>3521616
>on hard
hm.

>> No.3521627

>>3521616
that shouldn't even pose a threat at all unless you made a run straight for the exit

besides shamblers are hardly that difficult

you also have like, two perfectly fine pillars to take cover behind

>> No.3521643

I was thinking about getting a Piko Interactive copy of Duke Nukem for Mega Drive, but the $30 for a stripped down version of Episode 2 is way too much.
I guess I'll just stick with Zero Tolerance.

>> No.3521664
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What are some essential /a/core wads?

>> No.3521681

Is there a mod that lets you play with the Doom 2016 soundtrack or did I just imagine that existing at some point?

>> No.3521685

>>3521664
DemonSteele

>> No.3521686

>>3519695
>Currently playing Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod and shit is fun.

You might be able to help me; what should I be using to play Wolf3D and what mods are available?

(there needs to be a "so you want to play wolf 3D" image in the OP...)

>> No.3521687
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3521687

>>3521664
Swan Fox

>> No.3521691

>>3521664

Radys Class, or whatever it was called.

>> No.3521694

>>3521681
Doom4Doom?

>> No.3521726

>>3521694
>Hey devs when are you adding executions?
>you know the most surprisingly fun aspect of Doom 4?
>what do you mean never?
>what do you mean it's not a very "Doom" thing?
>what do you mean "just play Doom 4 then, faggot"?
Why would anyone make a Doom 4 gameplay mod and leave out one of the most important aspects of the Doom 4 gameplay?

>> No.3521732

>>3521681
There was one bundled with Merser's BD sprites pack. But it kind of sucked imo, because, in true Doom 2 fashion, he choose the worst song for MAP01, and some of the songs aren't even from Doom 2016. It's just some generic ass metal tracks

>> No.3521734

>>3521470
I think good level design requires a certain amount of predictability; it's the way the player can make meaningful tactical decisions in playing a level. If a map were totally unpredictable, then that would remove decision-making in a map and reduce it only to player skill and trial-and-error.

When it comes to teleporter traps, there's generally only two ways a player can best deal with them which I have already described. They're only unpredictable in so far as that you often can't tell what the correct choice is between the two. Picking the wrong one leads to frustration, and picking the correct one only makes me feel lucky.

>> No.3521737

I've been using the GLDEFS skybox implementation. Am I correct that I do not need to compose anythong in the map editor, so long as I only want to use the GLDEFS sky?

If I want to use weather in the skybox, do I need to do that in the GLDEFS lump in Slade?

>> No.3521739

>>3521726
To their credit, the glory kills thing doesn't work so well with sprites. Anything more complex than the punch/kick-only glory kills doesn't look good at all.

>> No.3521741
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>>3521734
>Picking the wrong one leads to frustration, and picking the correct one only makes me feel lucky.

Pic very much related

>> No.3521745

>>3521726
>>3521726
People don't like executions, if you want that just play Brutal Doom. The ammo drop kill thing is still there, it's the chainsaw's alt fire and requires fuel.

>> No.3521749

>>3521664
Demonsteele (good), Doom Radys (difficult to find), Swan Fox (awful but fun to play through with mates), Black Warrior (fun but what the fuck is happening)

>> No.3521751

>>3521749
>>3521691
>>3521687
>>3521685
>>3521664

Don't forget Psychic and Stranger, the original cool weebweapons

Though Stranger has not aged well at all

>> No.3521757

Is there a best of Oblige maps pack?

>> No.3521760

>>3521745
>comparing D44M's execution to Brutal Doom

Doom 4's last half a second (less with an upgrade) and offer a slight item bonus rewarding you for going out of your way to do it

Brutal Doom's last at least anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds long, are in 3rd person so you "see all its glory" grant you invulnerability for the entire duration of the exection, the ability to still shoot midanimation, instant heal AND has a retarded voice in some of them.

>> No.3521778

>>3521760
Make your own mod then. It's no one's obligation to cater to you.

But I agree, Brutals executions are kinda retarded once you get past their initial "cool" factor.

>> No.3521786

>>3521760
>Brutal Doom's last at least anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds long

I know you really hate Brutal Doom, but don't need to lie about it.

>> No.3521787

>>3521734
>I think good level design requires a certain amount of predictability; it's the way the player can make meaningful tactical decisions in playing a level. If a map were totally unpredictable, then that would remove decision-making in a map and reduce it only to player skill and trial-and-error.

A certain amount of unpredictability is equally as important, though. It requires the player to keep on their guard, and actually think about the many possibilities of what could happen next. Maps that are too predictable can make for very mundane gameplay after you've figured out the one strategy, and lessens the need to really put any thought into playing anymore.

>> No.3521792

>>3521786

It's not too far an exaggeration, especially in previous builds when they weren't sped up.

>> No.3521801

>>3521792
>the mod still is shit because it had a bad design decision that was removed several years ago.

>> No.3521805
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>>3521745
Depends, some games do them well.

Like in Far Cry 3, where you can do a quick stealth kill on a low level mook who hasn't noticed you (or, if you're fast enough, you could sprint over and stab him before he has the chance to call for help or raise his gun), they'd be pretty fast, typically, taking about a second on average.
There was also special variants and methods, allowing you do double ones, drag someone down from beneath a ledge, pull the pin of a grenade in their belt, to do a stealth-kill on a big and armored mook, or do a successive chain of stealth kills for as long as there were close-by and blissfully unaware mooks (I think I once managed five or six in one go, which is kickass because the game rewards you for longer chains of those kills)

But basically, it was a game where you had special kill animations which fit, and didn't bring the flow of the game to a grinding halt, because nothing stops you from immediately do your next move afterwards.

I have yet to play Doom 4, but from what I recall from the E3 demo, the kills looked reasonably brief, as well as being optional (them being an opportunity to be rewarded for doing something that can be more dangerous, which I think is a good thing for a videogame)

I remember BD had really annoying and drawn out animations, feeling like more trouble than they're worth, and having short-lived novelty.

>> No.3521806

>>3521801
>removed
Slightly less shit is still shit

>> No.3521807

>>3521741
Left is always the answer to those puzzles.

>> No.3521812

>>3521807
Is that some kind of unspoken Doom mapper rule?

>> No.3521813

>>3521806
Unlike nuDoom, BD provides enough ammo on early game and doesn't forces you to use this feature if you don't like it.

>> No.3521819
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Are there any mods that recreate levels/worlds from other (non Doomclone) games?
Like, say, the Resident Evil 1 mansion? Silent Hill? Halo?

>> No.3521823

>>3521812
Nah.

>> No.3521826

>>3521819
IIRC, a level designer from Bioshock recreated two levels from that game (Arcadia and Farmer's Market) into Doom.

>> No.3521830

>>3521819
I'm pretty sure I've seen someone create atleast some of the rooms from RE's mansion in doom before, but I can't remember where. It was on youtube, but I can't find it. I did find this though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouug3GnYahc

>> No.3521834

>>3521801

I said nothing of the sort. I think you may have me confused with someone else, anon.

>> No.3521836

>>3521786
>>3521801
god damn brutal babbies are so defensive

>> No.3521840

>>3521836
At least they don't make up stuff to defend the mod.

>> No.3521842

>>3521819
Hamplanets aside, BMI is kind of a flawed metric and should be used only as a general pointer, given that a person who's a bodybuilder can genuinely be considered to be obese if they happen to match the height and weight of someone who's actually just a fatass.

>> No.3521845

>>3521787
No shit.

>> No.3521846

>>3521826
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/arcadia here it is

>> No.3521852

>>3521845
Clearly its not a case of "no shit" to some players here.

>> No.3521858

>>3521840

You innocent little man, either blind or ignorant.

>> No.3521867

>>3521760
>Doom 4's last half a second
Yeah right, maybe with the upgrade they are that short but they are pretty damn long without it. It always takes me by surprise how slow the glory kills are without savagery, totally kills the pace of the game (same with in-flight mobility not being a built in feature)

>> No.3521879

>>3521852
You're talking to the wind, buddy.

>> No.3521945
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>tfw every wad you try is fun until the 4th or 5th map when you start getting swarmed by revenants and archvilles

>> No.3521958
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>>3521945
>having fun in a wad
>turns into boring slaughter maps once you hit map 21 or something

>> No.3521970
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Would you fuck Doomguy?

>> No.3521973

>>3521970
I want him to fuck my butt hard.

>> No.3521974

>>3521970
if he was genderbent maybe

>> No.3521983
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>> No.3521985

>>3521983
This is not okay. Doomguy is a guy

GUY

>> No.3521987

>>3521983
No

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>>3521983
I'd rather Crash desu

>> No.3522001

>>3521970
Is this a rhetorical question?

>> No.3522009

>>3521970
FUCK YOURSELF

>> No.3522013
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>> No.3522015

>>3520347
Hey, at least you don't post a mod that is super flashy, smooth and all sorts of badass and then disappear from this dimension. :v)

>> No.3522020

>>3521983
Why isn't she wearing any pants?

>> No.3522026

>>3522020
Because only Knights and higher ranking demons are allowed to wear pants.

Nothing to do with my inability to draw good looking pants no siree.

>> No.3522035

>>3522015
The pain is too real.

>> No.3522056
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>>3522035
I embraced it. Project MSX as of right now, is the most complete mod, gameplay-wise, i feel like it should be forgotten as of now, its showing its age and people are starting to point out some big flaws (such as multitasking, you have to take care of your regenerating shield, reloading weapons, the grenades, the powersuit abilities (dash, highjump, charges), medikits and the shield boosts. The gameplay eventually falls into a flow that people can't handle without having brain pain)
And this also applies to other mod i'd like to call the sister mod of project msx, crossfire [http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36667]. Mod is about as fast-paced as MSX (just because of monsters jumping out of their nests and swarming you from the other side of your map) and it also suffered the same fate of an author leaving the mod forgotten for whatever reason.

So yeah, embrace the pain, its better that way-

>> No.3522068

>>3521842
ah yes the ole "maybe i'm just a secret bodybuilder" gambit

>> No.3522084

>>3522056
I just wish the fucking goat imps weren't so OP.

>> No.3522096
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>>3522056
>Main gameplay features are big flaws

>> No.3522098

>>3522026
Admit it, you wanted fanservice points.

>> No.3522114

>>3522056
>MSX
>Brain pain
What?

The only thing people complained about was it being incomplete or about the regenerating shield and HUD.

Nobody said it was complex, it's simple and easy enough to play.

Crossfire was much harder to manage because there's no actual safety net and the guns suck

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>>3522098
Yeah.

>> No.3522119

>>3522116
>Eager beaver
L-Lewd

>> No.3522125

>>3522056
As far as gameplay mods go, Project MSX is rather simple.

>> No.3522153
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>>3521686
I made a starter pack
https://mega.nz/#!ikVlQBpQ!AtTZGvnFZgw_I96tsaOK-dbyLf6Usps1nVjLSdxUGz8

Here's a pastebin of the included readme to give you an idea of what's in it
http://pastebin.com/mRmhVWce

>> No.3522162
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3522162

>>3521985

>> No.3522171

>>3522162
My favorite genderbent Doomguy by far.

>> No.3522179

>>3522162
she's perfect

>> No.3522181

>>3522162
aww yea

>> No.3522182

Friendly reminder that filling a map (especially the first map) with nothing but chaingunners and revenants doesn't make it a hard map, just a shitty one. Looking at you, BTSX Episode 2

>> No.3522234

>>3522182
BTSX Episode 2 is a continuation of the first one.

The difficulty kept going upward from the previous episode.

Try looking at it from that angle and it makes sense why they just threw a bunch of cunts at you so early on.

Episode 3 is most definitely going to be harder.

>> No.3522251
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3522251

>Hitler was never a secret enemy in any Doom game where he tries to take vengeance on BJ's great great grandson

Is there any mod where I can fight Hitler in hell?

>> No.3522259

>>3522251

Bratwurst?

>> No.3522260

>>3521813
glory kills are entirely optional, though

>> No.3522264

>>3522251
That Cyberdemon in Grosse should've been Mecha Hitler. There were already too many Cyberdemon fights in Doom 2.

>> No.3522273

>>3521813
The only time in Doom 4 where you'd be low on ammo is right when you get the shotgun.

Seriously, after level 1 you have so much ammo always that you actually can't run out unless you have Polygon's aiming skills. And that's before they give you the chainsaw.

And in level 1 ammo issues go away after the second fight with the shotgun.

Each playthrough I ran in Doom 4 was without glory kills and I only used the chainsaw about two or three times since I was afraid I'd run out of fuel for it if I ever needed ammo.

Now I just say fuck it, saw a zombie and all my ammo is stocked up for the whole level.
It's nuts how little ammo issues there is.

>> No.3522283

>>3522273
yeah, it's not like the low ammo cap did anything to mend it either

at least it's nowhere near as bad as it was in Doom 3

>> No.3522290

>>3522264

Flat-out putting Hitler in the easter egg would've guaranteed Doom 2 to be banned forever in Germany.

I have no idea how laws work there though so take my opinion with a small grain of salt.

>> No.3522294

>>3522290
I'm pretty sure even so much as having a reference to the SS and the swastika will render your game illegal to sell in germany, so those 2 levels were cut out in the german version.

>> No.3522295

>>3522290
It's true. Anything that has Nazi imagery in it is banned. It's only recently even that Doom became not illegal to actually play in Germany.

>> No.3522297

>>3522290

They already made a special version of the game for Germany that had the Wolfenstein levels cut though. Couldn't they have just cut Hitler, too?

>> No.3522302

>>3522290
weren't RTCW and TNO sold in Germany?

>> No.3522305

>>3522302
Yes but censored.

>> No.3522313

>>3522302
TNO dances around by never mentioning SS or Hitler directly.

>> No.3522323
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How can you lower the menu so you can preview crosshairs before you pick them?

>> No.3522326

>>3522323
do you seriously find it troublesome to press escape three times just to find out

>> No.3522328

>>3522323
Use console commands to swap crosshairs.

>> No.3522336

I decided to continue working on a meme wad I started back in 2009/2010 and then accidentally deleted and am now rebuilding. I want you guys' help for suggestions on what new stuff to add to it.

So far what it has planned:

Monsters:
Moot: The new player character.
WTSnacks: The final boss like the 4chan city flash.
Rick James: A demon with the sound pallet changed to clippings from the Dave Chapelle show.
"Sneaky Weegee": A weegee that is completely invisible and makes no sound until it attacks with it's spaghetti.
Furries: Basic enemy like the zombiemen. Some melee only will try to assrape you.

Power Ups:
"Shoop da Whoop": Shoots a high powered laser beam for a short duration and will violently disintegrate most enemies.
Rickroll: Creates a dancing hologram of Rick Astley that distracts most enemies.

Weapons:
Pingas: Replaces the fist.
Spaghetti: Replaces the chainsaw. Whips a noodle repeatedly to keep the same effect as the chainsaw. I may try to make it like a grappling hook for alternate fire mode.

What else should I do?

>> No.3522337

>>3521739
Yeah, pretty much. D4D felt a bit off-kilter without them for the short time I spent playing it, though. That, and all the movement options for maps and AI that can't utilize them properly. Doom 4 gameplay is probably best kept to Doom 4 because of the verticality and the way the movement and AI works with said verticality. It'd be a smoother transition to add the gameplay to Quake rather than Doom 1/2.

That said, here's how I'd handle glory kills:
-Melee button, D4D already has this I think? I didn't play it much
-Add the flashing, stunned low health state from Doom 4
-Melee does its usual thing but does a forceful punch/kick animation if attacking a stunned enemy and makes the enemy gib in a flashy way if it connects, since that's all it really needs to be satisfying (Would've loved for an early rune in D4 to replace glory kills with exactly this, honestly)

>> No.3522339
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>>3522336
Cancel it and work on something else.

>> No.3522342

>>3522336
>moot
>snacks
Get with the times you geezer.
What's next, cockmongler and happy negro? TWINKIE HOUSE?

>> No.3522343

>>3522336
A lot of that stuff would be seen as terrible outdated nowadays, even among those who would've otherwise found it funny.

>> No.3522346

>>3522339
>>3522342
>>3522343
Alright I will cancel it.

>> No.3522365

>>3520774
I think Combined Arms does have a few weird traits, especially the SSG replacement running on cells and needing the Ripper to get more with a ranged attack at no cost, but overall it's a pretty okay package with fun ideas.

>> No.3522416
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>>3521664
From the last thread. Most fun i've ever had, even it's practically a TC now.

I am now addicted to Demonsteelse's crazy fast running and double-jumping, to the point that I'm contemplating forking it into a separate mod to use with other weapon mods (Let me know if one already existed).

>> No.3522425

>>3520351
Everyday. Back when Android was new I made a little app that is just a toggle button on blackscreen that powers on your camera's flash until you toggle it off.

WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE ME ALONE PEOPLE. Worst thing is how few phones it is compatible with given the years and yet I still get a stray email.

I'd love to get into Doom/Quake modding though.

>> No.3522461

>>3521664
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/otakondm

>> No.3522462
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New hit effects, need to find something for the big swipe though, and I have no idea where the fuck to find it.

>> No.3522470

>>3520402
nice try. half the file size is an ambient mp3.

>> No.3522478

>>3522470

after the shit I've seen for the past five years I'm inclined to believe you but I'm going to need a confirmation of that anyway

>> No.3522482

>>3522462
Those hit effects look more like your sword's bouncing or deflecting off the enemy (i.e. their armour or shield) rather than hitting them. To me at least.

>> No.3522483

>>3522482

Can't make the hit effect red though, then it'd look really weird when you hit skeletons and armors

>> No.3522484

>>3522182
I did a search for chaingunners and revenants in BTSX E2M01 on gzdoom builder. There are 40 chaingunners, and 12 Revenants, and if I exclude the multiplayer only ones, then there are 30 Chaingunners, and 8 Revenants. And when I look at the total monsters on SP UV in a source port, it comes up with 180 in prboom+ and 192 in zdoom (because it counts lost souls). The combined 38 of the Chaingunners and Revenants isn't even a quarter of either of those totals. Hardly what I'd call "nothing but chaingunners and revenants".

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>>3522478

>> No.3522490

>>3522483
I'm not referring to the colour.

>> No.3522492

>>3522486

jesus fucking christ

I think I woke my 2-month old brother with the deep sigh I just made

>> No.3522501
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>>3522486
What?

>> No.3522505
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>>3522501

>filename

>> No.3522509
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>>3522470
>>>>>>mp3
fuck me in the sinuses

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>>3522486
My fucking sides.

>> No.3522514

>>3522509
Now imagine if it was a FLAC file

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>doom 4's hellknight uses a pissed off cheetah roar
it's the little things

>> No.3522527

>>3522182
I am so sick of this bitching and moaning towards certain enemies. And it's especially obnoxious when they pull the "its not hard" card while doing so, like I'm supposed to be impressed that an apparently skilled player manages to still get annoyed by the same exact enemies so many goddamn times.

>> No.3522531

>>3522486
are you supposed to load all of those at once? i don't get it

>> No.3522532

>>3522337
I must be one of the only people here to think D4D is only okay. It just doesn't really have that D'16 vibe to boot. Some of the guns feel pretty cool I guess. Other than that though I wished Zion updated instead.

>> No.3522549

>>3522527
I am so sick of generalizing OCD-tier posters taking every single post that dares comment on the quality of enemy encounters on a 20 year old game at face value regardless of nature, and drenching themselves in unwarranted self importance as they do so.

>> No.3522559
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>>3522549

>> No.3522562
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>>3522462

>> No.3522563

>>3522559
I have no idea what you're trying to say to me here but okay. I now have a lead on where you're going at the very least.

>> No.3522567

>>3522527
>if i force the argument to revolve around me only then i'll invalidate their posts!
screw you, buddy.

>> No.3522568

Just finished TVR!.wad, it was a pleasant romp, and the maps are short and sweet. Nice to play a wad that isn't out to murder you and your family for once.

>> No.3522572

>>3522568
have you given Garrulismo or Dmonfear a try?

both make for some pretty comfy play

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>>3522559

>> No.3522575

>>3522568
>>3522572
i also suggest Rebirth

>> No.3522579
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>>3522568
This texture was weird though

>> No.3522584

>>3522575
>3522572 (me)
oooh didn't know about that one. can't wait to try it out with HD as soon as I get done with purgatory

>> No.3522585
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>>3522572
I haven't played Dmonfear, never even heard of Garrulismo, I'll try them out.
>>3522575
Thanks, I'll check out Rebirth as well!

>>3522579
At least it's not those hilariously bad marble textures from Hell Revealed.

>> No.3522589

>>3522585
that almost looks like a chibi version of a baron in a way

>> No.3522595

>>3522579
putting the status bar graphics into the actual game world is along the lines of a fourth wall break (possibly not the correct phrase, but i hope you can see what i'm getting at). still, i'm not going to hold it against it.

>>3522584
>>3522585
rebirth is in the same vein as tvr. small maps, some unique but still fitting graphics / sprites (winged barons, headless troopers, evil snowmen in the secret level). i think it's harder than tvr, but never too dreadful.

>> No.3522608

>>3522595
>custom monsters
well crap.

guess it's either beautiful doom weapons or smooth weapons again.

>> No.3522617

>>3522608
they're only sprites. no gameplay changes, as i recall.

>> No.3522626

Why are angry goatmen red

>> No.3522627

>>3522626
Suntan from hell

>> No.3522629
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>that boss that fires BOTH hitscan bullets and projectile rockets
>that seamless transition from when you get the spear to the start of the next level, giving the illusion that the world around you just transformed into a hellish landscape after grabbing the spear

That was a hell of a finale

>> No.3522651

>>3522567
Nothing was even offered in the post he's responding to besides the guy hating chaingunners and revenants and acting like it isn't hard when it's clearly a thorn in his side.

And as said >>3522484 there isn't even that many, making the post complaining about those two enemy types completely wrong.

>> No.3522652

>>3522629
>Go get ammo after fighting the boss
>Lose complete track of the Angel of Death
>Get lost in the maze
FUCK

>> No.3522656
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3522656

tfw dead game

>> No.3522701

Doom the Way it was meant to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8Lb9G7ul8&ab_channel=ImpPossible

>> No.3522703

>>3522701
bootiful

>> No.3522704

>>3521958
That's the case with most popular wads.

>> No.3522707

>>3522701
What the fuck is up with that shotgun?
Why are the monsters all so slow?

>> No.3522719

>>3522701
>"comments are disabled for this video"
Gee I wonder why.

>> No.3522723
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3522723

Is anyone else a bit confused with how to "properly" play Space Pirates? It has both powerful guns AND melee moves that can get you to distant enemies. I just don't know when to use which. Seems a bit... redundant at times.

>> No.3522724

is rise of the triad any good?

>> No.3522727

>>3522724
eh.

>> No.3522734

>>3522549
>>3522567
>Friendly reminder
>doesn't make it a hard map, just a shitty one.
Don't pretend the people complaining about monsters aren't putting self-importance in their posts to begin with.

>> No.3522735

>>3522701
>he couldn't figure out how to make multiple projectiles and made the shotgun shoot a 7-round burst

>> No.3522736

>>3522701
>those animations
>the pinkie in general

What the actual fuck?

>> No.3522742

>>3522724
Just imagine Wolfenstein with a vertical axis and jump pads and shit. Also you can be a dog.

>> No.3522746

Is marathon any good?

>> No.3522750

>>3522746
Fine for Mac only FPS games.

>> No.3522764

>>3522701
>No raising the walkway

>> No.3522765
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>>3522701

I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks that looks good in any way.

>> No.3522767
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Finishing the basic touches for the MEGA PUNCH. Still needs some tlc and what not, but they're in at a basic level. Also, showing off the combo switching mechanics between the normal melee and the MEGA PUNCH, which will be a lot flashier once I stop being lazy.

>>3522723
Use both for maximum effectiveness! Some enemies aren't as vulnerable to melee, and if you're fighting a bunch of dudes, guns are the way to go. As of the current released build, things aren't quite as refined so the divide is different. With the one I'm working on, gun play/melee are gonna a lot more interconnected.

>> No.3522773

how does doom manage to run on such high fps on everyones webm's? Is it just a webm thing? Or some setting that i missed in gzdoom? Or is my pc just that shit?

>> No.3522774

>>3522773
your pc is shit.

>> No.3522785

>>3522563
Archviles everywhere + moving cover.

>> No.3522786

>>3522773
There's a cvar that caps the FPS to 35, cl_capfps, it's disabled by default but you better check just to make sure.

>> No.3522787

>>3522765
how much time/effort does it take to go from downloading unreal4engine to what we see in the video?

if significant, i expect the author thinks it looks good, a conclusion further given further weight by his decision to show his efforts to the world.

>> No.3522803

>>3522723
The trick to TSP is use guns until Marty gives a proper reason to melee, last I checked the melee attacks just aren't strong enough yet.

>>3522767
You need to give a reason to use regular fists first.
As cool as it is to switch combo styles you need a reason to want to do this.
Especially whenn these gauntlets here don't attack slow enough to warrant using the regular punches/kicks

>> No.3522814

>>3522803
regular fights are lightning fast and put enemies in a stunlock state

agree that the gauntlets are super fast so switching doesnt seem to do much other than style

>> No.3522817

>>3522814
fuck meant punches not fights

but yeah the gauntlets seem to attack really fast, maybe slow them down to balance the two out?

>> No.3522821
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>>3522773
Actually yeah it's kind of funny

Like you view a WebM and it appears really fluid at 60 FPS, but then you go play a game fullscreen at 60 FPS and it doesn't feel as smooth by comparison

>> No.3522823

>>3522814
Lightning fast isn't actually good enough except in 1v1 situations.

Doom generally sends enemies in packs so ultimately the power gauntlets that can shove people around will be better to create space and do more damage.

Personally I'd make the bare arm melee more for group fighting by having sweeping kicks/backhands/whatever and the gauntlets for single target beatdowns.

They need to have separate purposes in order to have value.

Like how the Chainsaw/Berserk fists both still function for different needs.

I just wouldn't want to see all this work on melee get invalidated because it's just different flavors of damage with the gauntlets sorta wrecking face and moving enemies.

>> No.3522852

>>3522823
The current build of TSP is quite a bit different from the one you guys have played, so the vanilla melee actually does really well against groups of smaller enemies, but I think you're right about the gauntlet's role. Thanks for the feedback!

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>>3522821
I know right? WHY IS IT LIKE THAT I CAN'T GET OVER IT

>> No.3522870

>>3522852
Will there be a Berserk/Powerup that boosts ungloved melee or will the gauntlet end up being the undisputed best?

>> No.3522880
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>>3522870
Well considering I just put the weapon in and haven't balanced it, I doubt it's going to be the best past today. And even today, using the normal melee is more effective even with the gauntlet's increased damage.

But yes! There will be a berserk that affects normal melee. Probably not this upcoming build, though.

>> No.3522903

>>3522856
if i play doom immediately after waking up, it looks smoother and higher fps than if i leave it for an hour to wake up fully.

>> No.3522907

>>3522880
What is normal melee like now?

>> No.3523021

>>3522856
Your monitor isn't displaying Doom at the speed its actually running, but the webm is recording it at that.

Either mess with your Doom/port's settings to get it to show like that (I have no fucking clue how) or maybe Doom just can't show how smooth its running.

>> No.3523076
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not bad for a quick test of something i've never done before

>> No.3523080

>>3523076
Is this Reelism?

>> No.3523112

>>3522734
not even him but just what qualifies as self importance to you? can I not make a casual comment on how I, for instance, find shotgunguys to be annoying every once in a while lest I want to be automatically looked upon and assumed a bad player? that's bullshit, dude.

I don't know why some people are trying to hoard one type of discussion to a single type of user here. It's as annoying, if not more, than trying to single them out.

>> No.3523119

>>3523112
>can I not make a casual comment on how I, for instance, find shotgunguys to be annoying every once in a while lest I want to be automatically looked upon and assumed a bad player?
That's different though. It's one thing to find a monster annoying, it's another to claim a level is shit because of it.

>> No.3523160 [SPOILER] 
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Post doom waifus

>> No.3523165

>>3522821
>Like you view a WebM and it appears really fluid at 60 FPS, but then you go play a game fullscreen at 60 FPS and it doesn't feel as smooth by comparison
because all the visual information from fullscreen motion at 60fps is literally starting to saturate your optic nerves and you lose the same feeling of fluidity that you get from something smaller within your field of vision at the same fps.

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>tfw oc you made is in the OP
I feel so happy right now

>> No.3523191

>play in widescreen
>status bar is all stretched out
>disable stretching out status bar in the hud options
>now its the size of a goblin's testicle

Help

>> No.3523206

>>3523165
Would that be solved by playing on a smaller screen or in windowed mode?

>> No.3523217

>>3522787
It wouldn't take long. If you knew what you were doing this would be an quick project. The weapons he's using are just UE4 example weapons.

>> No.3523229

>>3523172
Did you also draw that high quality waifu pic in last thread?

>> No.3523230
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>>3523160
I'm in love with the Immoral Conduct 40mm launcher, the grenades in themselves are good, but the teargas canisters are just wonderful.

>> No.3523250

>>3523229
the alpheen one? yeh. I'd be more willing to ask for a random/doom unrelated request if I weren't so tired right now, ugh

I've also got a roomful of shit to clean

>> No.3523294

>>3523165
This is fucking retarded, sorry.

Webm and YouTube videos have interpolation. That's literally it.

>> No.3523297

>>3523294
>Webm and YouTube videos have interpolation. That's literally it.
lmao ok einstein

>> No.3523302
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>> No.3523306

>>3523297
>he believes that videos are smooth because the video is smaller and requires less brain power
>maximising the webm completelty disproves this

>> No.3523310

>>3523302
what is this, and why does it remind me if doom '16 so much

I like it

>> No.3523314

>>3523310
I added a spacesuit to AMC TC and went back and made that intro sequence to an earlier map since originally you just started in that airlock which I was never too fond of. It's a tiny thing but I think this sets the scene a bit more.

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>>3522701
>10 seconds into the video
>Lost souls flying at you as fast as a speeding snail
>They look like generic human skulls. Not expressive at all like Doom's lost souls
>zombie sound as they die

I'm already crying with laughter here

>> No.3523382
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>> No.3523386

>>3523382
MY SOUND WE COME FE TAKE OVER
MC YUH BETTA LOOK OVER YUH SHOULDER

>> No.3523389

>>3523382
>pharaoh

where did that come from?

>> No.3523390

>>3523389
TNT map 31.

>> No.3523412

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP_1Zx79Loo

>> No.3523417

Other than smoothing out walking animations, is there a reason monsters have 8 chase states? Could you reduce the chase states of flying monsters (to re-purpose them) without affecting the functionality of the monster?

>> No.3523429

>>3523302
reminds me of alien: isolation
looks great

>> No.3523438

>>3523412
This is so retarded but I still laugh, fuck.

>> No.3523440

>>3523412
Reminds me of all those old HL1 mods that added in tons of unnecessary and silly shit like that.
Just needs the fucked up weapons, textures, and scientists with afros.

>> No.3523473

>>3523440
>Jaykin Bacon Source
>tried playing with an IRL
>sniped him in the playground map whilst he was on the spin wheel thingy
>he ragequits and never plays it again

damn that felt good.

>> No.3523479
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3523479

>start Doom RPG
>"player killed himself"

What the fuck? It happens every fucking time.

>> No.3523517

>>3523294
it's both. i notice if i lean back while playing it looks a little smoother.

also when you're watching gameplay you're not focusing on certain things like you are when you're playing so it's easier to take in the full fluid picture at once

>> No.3523536
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>>3523302
>Gigantic far away 3d landscape

>> No.3523558

>>3523302
>when somebody modifies this>>3519930 to use for their own purpose it's looks cool, but when people use it normally, it's shit

>> No.3523564

>>3523172
Is this a dendrophilia thread?

>> No.3523581

>>3520745
HEY RON, CAN WE SAY 'FUCK' IN THE GAME?

>> No.3523589
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hah, i thought it looked like a scythe level. oh well, another one off the list.

>> No.3523591
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>>3523581
Good old John.

>> No.3523604

>>3523558
it's probably because it's fittingly low-res and serves as a gimmick in gameplay

>> No.3523621
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I need a mod that replaces pinky demons with pugs.

>> No.3523634

i've been learning a lot about Romero from his twitter, like his favorite cassette brand was TDK and he's a massive apple fanboy

>> No.3523636

>>3523634
he also doesn't have the heart to shoot his mama in doom deathmatch.

>> No.3523637

>>3523634
>>3523636
He likes Buckethead

>> No.3523643

>>3523637
now it's been a long time since college but i never found it too interesting to have a bucket on someone's head while they suck you off through a hole

can't believe he still does it

>> No.3523661

>>3523643
You meme about it but my first blowjob happened when I had an empty bucket of KFC on my head

I highly recommend such an experience to others if you get your hands on happy grass

>> No.3523668

>>3519180
>Fanta Base
Can't wait to see Joel try this.

>> No.3523670

>>3523634
He was into Apple computers way back in the day when they actually had something to offer besides expensive branding, probably why.

>> No.3523752
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>Temple of the Lizardmen MAP27
>Red skull key area doesn't have a lantern
I'm tired of this darkness bullshit

>> No.3523756

>>3523752
Temple of the Lizardmen 3*

>> No.3523762
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>>3523752
>Next map is more fumbling around in dark tunnels
Thanks

>> No.3523764
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Cool.

>> No.3523776

>>3523764
wad?

>> No.3523781
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3523781

>>3522531
No, The visor hud mod is modular, but in terms of filesize it's poorly optimized. I really like it though, it plays very nicely with project brutality.

>> No.3523785

>>3523781
What game is that image from?
Don't tell me you are playing doom in cygwin.

>> No.3523789

>>3520774
I fucking love combined arms, the brick summon spell is great

>> No.3523791

>>3523785
Angband

>> No.3523809
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>>3523781

>> No.3523829
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>>3523776
JDCP

>> No.3523997

>>3523479
Like Zork always says, suicide is not the answer.

>> No.3524009

>>3522114
>The only thing people complained about was it being incomplete or about the regenerating shield and HUD.
I am surprised nobody has complained over
-Pistol having a retarded as balls spread that makes it unviable to spam and holding it does nothing, it should auto fire at least with the same rate of fire as the Halo CE pistol
-Nailshotgun also having a retarded spread making it only viable at point blank (while a single shot of that can kill the red viles, getting on their faces is just suicide)
-No way to get out of the scoped mode of the OrionSniper without either using the melee or grenade or reloading.
-To bring back the point of multitasking being bad, here's an example of it: Reloading
When you dump a mag of any weapon, you have the hud flash with a dododoot sound but that's it, you have to manually reload and this could make some people buttymad because reloading while just pressing fire when you have no ammo in your mag is a standard of shooters (even goldeneye had it!). While the hud isn't cluttered, you have to admit, there's a lot more than regen shields to take care, not a bad thing but its definitely a casual filter.

>> No.3524012

>>3523997
Is there any way to stop it? I start the game and literally die as soon as the game starts and all enemies on the map disappear as well.
It worked fine a few days ago so what the fuck, reset the GZDoom settings to default too just to be sure but nothing.

>> No.3524023

>>3523302
I feel like the helmet should bob up/down

>> No.3524050
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3524050

>>3523302
looking pretty damn good there, anon

>> No.3524117

>>3524009
>Pistol accuracy
It's not a sniper rifle, it's a close range weapon and is spammable as such
>Nail shotgun having retarded spread and only viable at point blank
That's what your dashes are for, also it completely obliterates everything but Cyberdemons and Masterminds but still powers through them rather quickly. If it had a tight spread it would be even more dominant and it's already one of the best guns
>Orion sniper scoping
I think this didn't get complaints because either people didn't bother scoping when using it(It's pretty accurate) but yes that is definitely an issue. I use it without the scope since it's a boss tier weapon.

>Manually reloading
I don't think anyone really minds it and dryfiring isn't bad.
I might be biased on this though because I love Hideous Destructor so much it's not even funny

I think ultimately what happened is MSX hit a lot of fun and cool points so people sort of glanced over some issues or maybe didn't even find it to be one in the first place.

I think just super jumping and air dashing alone trivializes most management issues unless you're in a really cramped spot, but if you have that energy rifle you can tap to shoot and it stunlocks everything to let your energy/shields recharge.

Things like that.

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>>3523412

>those engine whirrs for the controller turning
>that pistol that somehow actually sounds better than the original

>> No.3524186

kjk

>> No.3524229

I wonder why no one's ever "fixed" Project MSX like with the hundreds of Brutal Doom spin-offs?

>> No.3524234

>>3523634
Not surprising, since they made Doom on NeXT computers.

>> No.3524240
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3524240

Anybody got any cool levels for me to play?

I got one for you: Arcadia. Sweet atmospheric level that'll be appreciated by Bioshock lovers. NOT to be played by those who just want some action.

>> No.3524242

>>3523112
Finding an enemy annoying, and having a little harmless vent about it is fine. The problem with >>3522182 is that he makes his vent out like its supposed to be an important PSA to mappers, hugely exaggerates the quantity of such enemies in the particular map (as proven by >>3522484), and then strokes his ego with an "its not hard, its shit" comment.

>> No.3524257

>>3524240
Strange Aeons is cool.

>> No.3524258

is there anyway to make the movement in doom tighter? right now when you let go of the movement key, it takes a second or two to actually stop moving

basically is there anyway to make it like wolfenstein

>> No.3524260

>>3524229

Probably both due to lack of popularity compared to BD, and the fact that MSX simply doesn't need a fix mod as much as BD does.

>> No.3524283

>>3524258
>is there anyway to make the movement in doom tighter? right now when you let go of the movement key, it takes a second or two to actually stop moving
you're insane

>> No.3524294

Do you have any cool levels for me to play?

I got a level for you: Arcadia. A recreation of the Bioshock level in Doom. NOT for those who seek action, but for those who appreciate atmosphere. Bioshock fans will love it. I think there's even another level from Bioshock?

>> No.3524342

>>3524240
>>3524294
Um....

>> No.3524348

>>3524283
not him but doom's literal ice skating grew really tiresome for me

>> No.3524350

has anyone made a build engine-styled jumping mod for doom?

jumping in dn3d and the such just feels so satisfying. I vaguely recall demonsteele having something along the lines of that but I'm not too sure

>> No.3524354

>>3524342
Couldn't find my post haha, though the site swallowed it.

>> No.3524361

>>3524257
Not really a level, is it tho? Yeah, I said LEVEL.

>> No.3524365

What can you say about Doom the Way id Did? Is it really as solid as original doom?

>> No.3524368

>>3524365
I really liked it. It kept the feel of the id maps pretty well.

>> No.3524371
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3524371

Where would you place all the PWADs you've played in here, /doom/?

>> No.3524374

Why no picture or anything for wolfenstein? Where do I download wolf3d and just play it with no dos bullshit or anything.

>> No.3524378

>>3523429
>>3524050
>>3523536
thanks a lot!


>>3524023
I thought about that but the helmet is very tightly fit so it wouldn't really move around on the player.

I have made a fairly simple glass sheen system where if you're stood in a dark area and look at a bright object, the glass briefly shows up a bit. it looks great.

>> No.3524396

>>3524365
I think its decent for what it tried to do. But a lot of maps lacked an identity, IMO. Felt too generic

Doom 2 the way id Did has a lot more maps that stood out to me.

>> No.3524409

>>3524350
I do prefer Duke 3D/Build jumping, cause of its height, allowing for more vertical level design.

>> No.3524425

>>3524374
>play it with no dos
ECWolf, presumably

>> No.3524434

>>3524374
>>3524425

There's also Wolf4SDL which I hear is a more faithful experience, though it doesn't have an automap which is a deal breaker for me.

>> No.3524438

>>3524425
Is there even a download of all the Wolf 3D files anywhere like what we have for the Doom internal wads?

>> No.3524446

>>3524438
I haven't a clue, sorry

>> No.3524461

>>3524438
>>3524374

Read >>3522153

>> No.3524476

>>3524461
Oh hey, thanks very much for linking that. I've been wanting to play the actual Wolf 3D instead of the ZDoom conversion for ages.

>> No.3524490

>>3524461
Why does the game give me a fatal error when I try to use the minimap?

>> No.3524494

>>3524461
Download link doesn't work.

>> No.3524502

>>3524494
Mega is shit. I don't know why people suffer it. Hmm yes I want to run several megabytes of compressed obfuscated encrypted javascript on my machine, just to download a file! Fuck off, Kim dotcom. You're an ultrafat piece of shit.

>> No.3524540

S-so anyone gonna provide a link to download that wolf package?

>> No.3524549

>>3524540
That Mega download link works fine.

>> No.3524567

>>3524549
Not in mozilla.

>> No.3524568

>>3524567
I downloaded it through Firefox fine. Dunno what's wrong on your end.

>> No.3524581

>>3524568
Why would you lie about something like this?

>> No.3524582
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>>3524581

>> No.3524638

Picked up GMOTA for the first time

This is pretty fun

>> No.3524694
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3524694

>>3524638

I appreciate that, and I hope you have fun with this update when I finish with it.

>> No.3524705

>>3524371
Plutonia is probably bottom middle

>> No.3524707

>>3524694
>ice sword
cool and with a really cool animation

but the light effect is kind of weird, makes it looks like you're waving a glowing sausage around imo

>> No.3524710
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>> No.3524713

>>3524707

I'll consider swapping it out for an effect like the fire sword later maybe. But I'm fond of smear effects

>> No.3524717

>>3524713
if it's supposed to be for the ice moves, maybe make it a lot more transparent/light and add a few glowing stars?

>> No.3524721

>>3524717

Transparancy is a strange and fickle thing in the Doom engine, but I probably should add some extra particles

>> No.3524738

>>3524710
>Ancient Aliens

Man, it looks so great, and while the ideas aren't bad it just feels so tedious to play.

>> No.3524761

>>3524710
I'd actually quite like to see a serious one of these.
Maybe create a survey where people can rate popular pwads and then plot the average rating.

>> No.3524765

>>3524710
>>3524738
am i the only one who enjoyed AA

>> No.3524773

>>3524765
with 6 billion other people on the planet, no
also in general, no
i think it should be aboe the center line there

>> No.3524775

>>3524765
No, I loved it.
My feeling is that most people agree that it's very good, and that the minority of dissenters are just more vocal.

>> No.3524782

>TNT Evilution
>Wormhole

Well, that was largely pointless.

>> No.3524790

>>3524765
AA is actually pretty popular for the most part, and is guaranteed to win a cacoward this year.

I think its just some people in these threads dislike Skillsaw's mapping style for some reason.

>> No.3524794

>>3524782
It being finishable without even visiting the alternate world was probably an oversight. I still like the level, though.

>> No.3524797
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3524797

Since we're discussing actual quality in wads.

What are the absolute WORST trends people use in their maps?

I'll start with the more obvious ones:
>chaingunners in the distance
>stealth skeletons
>hidden archvile
>mandatory boss fight in an impossibly easy big environment
>"I cant believe its not nuts"

>> No.3524801

>>3524765
It looked nice, but I didn't particularly like the gameplay style.

>> No.3524803

>>3524794
I think it's worse that the alternate world has nothing justifying a visit to it. Aside from 100%-ing.

>> No.3524808

>>3524803
I do think the concept could've been done better.

I always preferred how Icarus Map20 did alternate worlds, by having the second major area be an upside down version of the first major area.

>> No.3524812

>>3524710
>complex doom
>hard
nigga the bfg10k is beyond broken, especially with the skulltag runes that you get, like the one that's a combination of rage, strength and resistance.

>> No.3524815

>>3524812
I don't think its a serious image.

>> No.3524817

>>3524797
Multiple Archvile fights.

>> No.3524818

>>3524761
It would be an alright idea but strawpolls don't necessarily turn out well

>> No.3524826

>>3524808
I haven't played that one. I'm UVing TNT right now.

I think the one I remember best is the time travel one in Gong Down.

>> No.3524827
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3524827

>>3524694
This update is supposed to be quite the overhaul isn't it? Looking forward to it.

>>3524797
Someone made this a while ago.

>> No.3524832

>>3524827
So when are we hanging John Romero?

>> No.3524834

>>3524827
But faraway chaingunners are best dealt with a chaingun to snipe them, not a shotgun since the bullets spread a lot at that distance. Hell even a pistol is better in that scenario.

>> No.3524835

>>3524773
>with 6 billion other people on the planet, no
People need to stop saying this, do they not know what a rhetorical question is?

>> No.3524837

>>3524834
Chaingun has much worse spread at snipe distance though.

>> No.3524840

>>3524229
Well there's project badass

>> No.3524841

>>3524837
shotgun and chaingun have the exact same spread parameters

>>3524834
doesn't work past 2048 units in any port that isn't zdoom, because after 2048 units autoaim stops looking for enemies

and at that range, the shotgun is still fairly effective

>> No.3524846

>>3524837
>Chaingun has much worse spread at snipe distance though.
Only if you hold down the fire button, if you just click repeatedly you can snipe, it's why it's better to use it for faraway enemies than the shotgun.
>>3524841
If we're gonna talk about pre-zdoom limitations, then the shotgun is also useless if it's not gonna autoaim to compensate for height. We're talking spread. And at that distance you'll hit maybe one pellet if it's dead center. Meanwhile the first few bullets of a chaingun will always be centered, so you can abuse this by spam clicking instead of holding it down.

But the distance in the screenshot is close enough for autoaim anyhow.

>> No.3524850

>>3524841
Hitscanners can't even hit you if you're further than 2048 units away in non-zdoom ports.

>> No.3524852
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>>3524797
>pick up key, door closes, 2 archviles 1 doomguy
>D_RUNNIN
>using the generic Doom 2 sky textures, they're SO boring and just swapping them out is very little effort that does a lot for a map's atmosphere and feel, this goes for music as well
>archvile fights without cover, basically forcing you to take damage, unless you're lucky enough to RNG it into the pain state enough times
>cyberdemons in tight quarters without any cover (cyberdemons in large open areas is fine without cover)
>pits you can't get up from (this isn't as egregious if there are damaging floors to at least make it end)
>inconsistent use of damaging floors, like red blood or brown poo water being damaging in one map, but fine in another, or even worse, in the same map
>baron without a decent weapon (or other method) to fight it, turning it into a lengthy slog, not actually difficult
>lots of barons without at least a rocket launcher, this shit is tedious, not challenging
>entire wad being predicated on "door locks, now fight in this arena =)" kind of gameplay and nothing else
>several pain elementals at once

>> No.3524853

>>3524827
I love how all these examples are from Plutonia

>> No.3524859

>>3524827
That arch-vile example i can agree with. I generally didn't find Plutonia as hard as people made it out to be, but that shit in MAP31 definitely felt like the author was giving me the finger.

The other two examples don't bother me that much.

>> No.3524860

>>3524827
>shotgunners behind doors
They don't have lightning fast reflexes, either slam the door shut and back off, or shoot them first, they'll usually bumble a bit before thinking to open the door, and even then they have to think a bit before leveling their gun at you

>> No.3524864

>>3524850
>>3524846
turns out I confused max autoaim distance and max hitscan distance for monsters

the max autoaim distance is actually 1024, at which distance the shotgun can still take out a single chaingunner in a few shells, and a group of chaingunners with more efficiency

>> No.3524982

>>3524827
I'll give you the arch-viles and chain gunners, but there's nothing wrong with shot gunners behind doors.

>> No.3524987

>>3524797
>small room
>collect a key
>when you come out you either face 3 things: 3 chaingunners, 4 boners or 10 imps

or

>small corridor
>8-10 pinkies in one room
>no chainsaw

>> No.3524993

>>3524987
you can dodge pinkies attack by luring them and then moving backwards, doing it quick also stops them from moving forward and thus pushing you, and they should be dead by then.

>> No.3525000

>>3524993
>you can dodge pinkies attack by luring them and then moving backwards
This, bait their hungry mouths, done correctly you can almost entirely avoid damage even when surrounded by them.

>> No.3525002

we're on page 10 boys.

>> No.3525004
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>>3524797
- Fluids being randomly hurting or non hurting. One map green shit hurts, next map it's just like water. Retarded fucking bullshit. Have some hint at least you fuckos.

- Pain elementals when you don't have ssg, plazma or chaingun.

- No monsters above demons or chaingunners as if wad is trying to be the godlike TNT:E

- Hoards of revenants to be shot from rl or circle'n'ssged

- Fucking small objects around when you're fighting arch-ville, cyberdemon, mastermind or a bunch of revenants - like bushes. Retarded fucking shit. Whoever does this must feel really clever, and special. Autistic cocksuckers.

- Doom 2 city skyboxes - the ugliest and most nausiating fucking
things in existance before big handed square-jawed transes became a thing. It's literally 5x5 pixels of fire, smoke and cement stretched two hundred times.

- Places where you can't see enemies high above and they just hit-scan you.

- Lifts that drop you right to hit-scanners so you immediately get shot.

- Hoards of hit-scanners round the corner when you don't have rl.

- Hit-scanners behind illusory walls.

- Hit-scanners.

>> No.3525006

>>3524987

>not using the SSG for pinkies

If it's doom 1 that's a legit complaint but the SSG one shots them if you're relatively close. Unless you don't have it yet for whatever reason.

>> No.3525013

>>3525002
And one thing about page 10...

...There is no page 11...

>> No.3525019

>>3525017

new thread

>> No.3525024

>>3524229
Well theres's project badass

>> No.3525026

>>3525004
>bawww hitscanners ;_;

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3525262

>>3524694
>verily, taketh a chill pill

>> No.3525348

>>3524827
You could have spent the 5 minutes it took to make this gitting gud at Doom

>> No.3525608

>>3525348
>someone made this
oops.

>> No.3525610

>>3525026
thanks for the (you)

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