Sonic General

[Anonymous No.3489659]

Anything Sonic goes here.

Let's get this thing going!

S&K > S2 > S3 > S1 > SCD > Spinball > 3Dblast

Thread Music Theme:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVEyGntyOZQ

Also, what do you guys think of Sonic Mania? Looks great! Hate to say it but my hopes are high. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fEfKC4sxTG8

[Anonymous No.3489663]

>>3489659
>General

>S2 above anything

[Anonymous No.3489664]

Sonic 2 (MD) > Sonic 1 (MS) > Sonic 3 > Sonic and Knuckles > Sonic 2 (MS) > Sonic 1 (MD) > Sonic 3D (Saturn) > Sonic Chaos > Sonic 3D (MD)

[Anonymous No.3489667]

Wow wow wow

Sonic CD > everything

[Anonymous No.3489671]

>>3489659
Sonic mania isn't retro, keep it on /sthg/ on /vg/. That being said, it looks great, /sthg/ is hyped for it.

[Anonymous No.3489672]

Pretty hyped about Sonic Mania, DESU.

It could be amazing.

[Anonymous No.3489686]

>>3489659
>General

>>>/vg/

[Anonymous No.3489690]

>>3489672

[Anonymous No.3489705]

Megadrive

>Sonic 3&K > Sonic 2 > Sonic CD > Sonic 1 > Knuckles Chaotix > Mean Bean Machine > Sonic 3D >>> Sonic Spinball (utter shit)

SMS/GG

>Sonic 1 > Sonic Triple Trouble > Sonic 2 > Sonic Drift 2 > Mean Bean Machine > Tails Adventure > Sonic Drift > Sonic Chaos > Tails Skypatrol > Sonic Blast >>> Sonic Labyrinth

Saturn

>Sonic R > Sonic 3D >>> Sonic X-Treme Beta

Dreamcast

>Adventure 2 > Adventure 1 >>> Shuffle (good insomnia cure though)

[Anonymous No.3489709]

>>3489690

>Thinking the cycle applies to a fangame

SEGA aren't even involved beyond sending money, famalam.

[Anonymous No.3489724]

>>3489709
>Sega's not involved
It's kinda funny watching the Mania vids and thinking "now was that so fucking hard Sega?". At least they are embracing a great looking fan game tho. Just think of what Nintendo could of done with the Metroid 2 fan remake.

[Anonymous No.3489728]

>>3489709
A fan can make a game significantly better than any game sega has made since post dreamcast. Aint that just embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.3489734]

Sonic 1 > Sonic 2 > Sonic CD > Sonic & Knuckles > Sonic 3

[Anonymous No.3489737]

>>3489724

The thing is SEGA already tried the same thing and it came out as Sonic 4. This arrangement is definitely for the best.

[Anonymous No.3489749]

>>>/vg/

[Anonymous No.3489758]

>>3489724
>Just think of what Nintendo could of done with the Metroid 2 fan remake.
Nothing? Didn't the person who made it say they are not interested in doing any more Metroid even before the takedown?

[Anonymous No.3489771]

>>3489709
>SEGA aren't even involved beyond sending money

They must be, it's their product. Just as much as they were involved with Dimps. And since they're sending money, the devs are officially working under contract, therefore they are not independent, thus making any indie-fangame moniker carry absolutely zero contextual sense.

[Anonymous No.3489790]

>>3489758
It could of went down different.

>Nintendo
Hey bud! That game your making looks good!
>guy who re-made Metroid 2
Thanks! I really appreci-
>Nintendo
Alright let's cut the crap. If you release this we WILL get it taken down immediately. We do not Fuck around.
>guy or re-made Metroid 2
....I-I'm just a struggling indie developer..
>Nintendo
Yeah cry to someone who gives a flying Fuck. How about Instead why don't you finish the game then let's us sell it exclusively on virtual console? Of course you will be compensated handsomely and will look great on your resume. How about it dipshit?
>guy who re-made Metroid 2
Well I'll have to think about it
>Nintendo
You do that. Talk it over with your parents Joe and Sarah.
>Guy who re-made Metroid 2
H-how do you know my parents names??
>Nintendo
Let us know what you decide champ! Keep in touch!

[Anonymous No.3489794]

Sonic CD (jp/eu) had best soundtrack

[Anonymous No.3489813]

>>3489771

You're certainly right there but, given what we know about Taxman and the developers, they only really got to this point due to their independent success and, most recently, the Sonic CD remake. You can think of it as a kind of major label debut - same stuff, bigger budget, actual support.

SEGA seems to have far less corporate meddling than Nintendo, Capcom, Konami or any other big publisher these days, so hopefully it stays on the straight and narrow. It's not out for ages yet anyway, it should at least avert the traditional 'rushed to release' problem.

[Anonymous No.3489835]

>>3489813
>the Sonic CD remake

Don't forget about Sonic 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.3489869]

I came here to say that the other thread where there's shitposting about which Sonic game is the best is stupid.

Also, S3&K best "games"

[Anonymous No.3489991]

Sonic 2 is the Castlevania IV of the franchise. Game is too fucking easy and then finally starts to get interesting at Metropolis Zone, but then it's over.

[Anonymous No.3490267]

>>3489663
>people still pretending S2 isn't GOAT

[Anonymous No.3490302]

sonic 2 is for amerifats

[Anonymous No.3490404]

GOTTA SPEED KEED Tier:
Sonic 3&K

High Tier:
Sonic CD

Mid Tier:
Sonic 1

Low Tier:
Sonic 2

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING Tier:
Knuckles' Chaotix

[Anonymous No.3490634]

>>3489813
>Sonic CD remake
remake? I thought they just tuned up the programming a little better...did I miss some other things?

[Anonymous No.3490645]

My list is Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, then Sonic 1. Sonic CD was very good looking and sounding, but everything else just didn't mesh; the time travel thing was mostly aesthetic and redundant especially since you can just get all the time stones, and the bad futures are pretty pointless, then the mechanics didn't work together with exploring the level...you know, the usual complaints. Sonic 1 was pretty much a prototype before they balanced the gameplay with level design in Sonic 2, then Sonic 3&K perfected everything (including the special stage).

[Anonymous No.3490665]

>>3490645
I think they should've just went with the original plan of making a Sonic 1 port for the CD. Better yet, they should've just made it a N64DD-styled expansion pak to the game, kinda like an early CD spiritual predecessor to S&K.

[Anonymous No.3490686]

>>3490645
>including the special stage
The only thing I disagree with. Sonic 2 special stages were the best overall even tho all the special stages in sonic are all kinda garbage IMO.

[Anonymous No.3490728]

Sonic 3 was always my favourite.

Rest would go something like this:

3 > 2 > CD > 1 > Knuckles > Blast (Saturn) > Spinball

Not really holding a torch for 3&K anymore because I think all the good zones were used in 3. Flying Battery and Mushroom Hill are okay.

I think Knuckles being in Sonic 2 was cooler though.

CD is overrated. People who say CD is the only good Sonic game should be shot.

[Anonymous No.3490730]

Sonic 1 > sonic 3 > fuck the rest

[Anonymous No.3490943]

>>3489659
>Mystic Cave Zone 1-Player
nigga plz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIVVoqGPEFY&index=62

[Anonymous No.3490946]

>>3489667
everything > Sonic CD

[Anonymous No.3490967]

Sonic 3D Blast is my favorite Sonic game

[Anonymous No.3491672]

sonic 2 > sonic 3&k > sonic 1 > everything else can blow me

to be fair, after all these years I still have not played CD, I will eventually and on that day I will have a fair judgement...but I've seen enough gameplay footage to at least have the opinion of "not muh sanic"

Sonic 2 hate is as much of a meme as I assume Sonic CD love is, it was the most popular and many people's favorite so it must be the worst, meanwhile Sonic CD was largely unplayed by the masses so it must be brilliant

Sonic 2 haters just seem asinine to me and the points they come up with for hating it contrived, like people who say Jack Nicholson wasn't the greatest Joker....we all know he was, but some people hate the fact that we know he was so they will try any dumbass argument against it just to be special snowflakes

[Anonymous No.3491749]

>>3491672
>call other opinions memes
>didn't even play the game

pls go and stay go

[Anonymous No.3491838]

>>3490967

[Anonymous No.3491849]

>>3491749
I said "assume" for a reason. Like I said though I've seen enough to know it doesn't offer the gameplay I know I like from classic Sonic games at the very least.

[Anonymous No.3491891]

So i'm guessing i'm one of the very few who actually really prefers Sonic 1 on the MD.

[Anonymous No.3492145]

>>3490634
The new versions of CD ,1 ,and 2 are running on a completely different engine, there is no emulation whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.3492260]

>>3489659

Sonic doesn't hold up well and in retrospect was pretty gimmicky. The controls are loose, and much of the game, is above average platforming at best. The game doesn't really move as fast and is just used for auto sections that look cool at first, for the time, but get old.

The game can be played fast but that requires memorizing the level. His whole edgy attitude is now annoying and just marketing gimmick. The game relies on speed gimmick, which is mostly automatically done, cool basic momentum based physics, and graphics to overcome the fact that it isnt a great platformer.

To be clear for the time it wasn't a bad platformer, in fact it was good early 90s, but nowhere near Mario games released years earlier. It was already outdated a few years after release and it why Sonic Games struggle today. It was a good but not great game, that relied more on graphics and speed gimmick to overcome the fact it was nothing special. Where I will give it credit is for multiple paths through a level.

By 1995 the gameplay was nothing special, which is why they keep trying to make updated games and failing. Mario, or say Donkey Kong Kountry never had this problem as the gameplay is still good, even for today.

If someone played it today for the first time, they would most likely be unimpressed and not understand what the deal with the game is.

[Anonymous No.3492412]

>>3489705
>Shuffle (good insomnia cure though)
Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.3492427]

>>3492260
nice opinions. I think you're almost completely wrong; I wish I had time to share mine as thoroughly as you do.

[Anonymous No.3492610]

CD is still the best sonic game, there's nothing to discuss, only meme spouting faggots disagree.

[Anonymous No.3493118]

>>3489659
Objective list
3K>1>2>CD
That is all

[Anonymous No.3493121]

>>3490686
You're a masochist

[Anonymous No.3493145]

>>3489659
Backgrounds look great.
Music is pretty good. Dont like the invincibility music.
I think the levels are too long.
But other than that looks good.
Better then the recent Sonic shit

[Anonymous No.3493246]

>>3489659
Sonic 2 Comparision

Sonic 2 Virtual Console Wii: Distorted sound
Sega Genesis Collection: Distorted sound, input lag
Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection: Less distorted, but low quality music/sfx and slight input lag
Sonic Mega Collection: Distorted sound
Sonic Mega Collection Plus: distorted sound
Sonic Classic Collection DS: haven't tried

That leaves us with only three good versions:
Sonic 2 2013 iOS
Sonic 2 on Genesis GX for the Wii
Sonic 2 on Sonic Jam

(Sonic Jam works well on SSF)

[Anonymous No.3493553]

>>3492427

It is controversial. Lots of people agree with me, many would disagree and would love Sonic. I still feel people mostly like this game due to nostalgia. However, I would love to hear a different opinion on why these games. And I am not saying they are bad, just that they were merely good, and nothing special that uses grahpcis and gimmicks (speed) to hide this, that Sonic games dont hold up well, as well as the concept is dead and no longer fun.

[Anonymous No.3493574]

>>3493553
It's okay. I feel the same way about most of the Mario games after 3, and I feel as if DKC is still loved for the same reason you feel Sonic is still loved, only with the factor being graphics/music instead of speed as I think the platforming is while decent, isn't much special either. Eh, I thought Crash did the latter's approach to platforming better anyways.

[Anonymous No.3493581]

amy is listening... go on >>3493553

[Anonymous No.3493585]

you know to be honest the comics had a lot of interisting themes going and bordered on greatness a few times...

too bad sega won't listen...

[Anonymous No.3493623]

>>3493574

Id disagree about DKC. yes they had good graphics, music, and gimmics but at its heart they had great gameplay that sitll holds true today.

The problem is Sonic didnt have great gameplay. It was merely good, for its time. It was 7 out of 10 at best, it got another +2-3 for graphics and gimmicks, at the time. That is why by mid-90s they stopped making them. The graphics and speed gimmick no longer gave that +2-3 and they had a slightly above average game.

[Anonymous No.3493628]

>>3493623
>The problem is Sonic didnt have great gameplay. It was merely good, for its time.
And while I don't disagree, I still feel the same about DKC as well. While being being a visual and audio marvel technically, gameplay-wise it isn't really "great" so much as "just decent and playable", which is what I felt best described Rare's platformers from that point onward.

[Anonymous No.3494058]

>>3493246
>Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection: Less distorted, but low quality music/sfx and slight input lag
>slight

>Sonic Jam

I recall hearing some of the levels had slowdowns not present in the original. Also, although some of the sound effects have been obtained from the original pre-FM incarnations, the music tracks run at 22050hz 8bit (probably, same for effects), they have an hard time looping/resuming properly, and every other music track will fuck the previous one up.

[Anonymous No.3494894]

>Creator of the character named him Eggman
>Name inspired by the Beatles song "I am the walrus"
>Large rotund, egg shaped body: "I am the Eggman"
>Yellow sections on costume look like walrus tusks: I am the walrus
> Mustache looks like walrus whiskers
>Obsession with eggs
>Egg-themed boss robots
>Death Egg

Robotnifags, are you even trying?

[Anonymous No.3494897]

>>3494058
>I recall hearing some of the levels had slowdowns not present in the original

Only on Sonic 2

[Anonymous No.3495381]

>>3489794
It had everything man

>house
>new Jack swing
>techno
>rave
>breakbears

Is there a more early 90s soundtrack?

[Anonymous No.3495662]

>>3494894
THE STORY BEGINS
WITH WHO'S GONNA WIN
KNOWING THE DANGERS THAT LIES WITHIN

[Anonymous No.3495781]

>>3489671
I wish these anons would fuck off. If it's related to retro gaming, it should be discussed here. There's a 12" statue of Sonic standing on a Genesis for christ sake.