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3472525 No.3472525 [Reply] [Original]

SEGA used to be incredible, but can you decide on your favorite in-house SEGA studio?

>AM1/WOW
>AM2
>AM3/Hitmaker
>AM4/Amusement Vision
>AM5/Sega Rosso
>CS1/Smilebit
>CS2/Overworks
>CS3/Sonic Team

http://www.strawpoll.me/11147665

>> No.3473481

bump

>> No.3473509

>>3472525
Anything but Sonic Team.

>> No.3473516
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3473516

>>3473509
Come on, Sonic Team is cool even if you don't like Sonic.

>> No.3473517

>>3473509
I dunno, Sonic 1~3&K were excellent platformers.

>> No.3473524

>>3473516
AM7 actually made that (aka Shinobi/SoR Team), not Sonic Team.

Common mistake since the art-style is so similar to Sanic.

>> No.3473528
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>>3473524
Fug. Ok, Nights then.

>> No.3473538

>>3473517
>>3473516
I was thinking about modern SonicTeam. Pre-2000 they were goat.

>> No.3473602

AM2 without question. Sega's video game dominance was first earned with spectacular arcade releases. AM2 had their hands on the all the best of them.

It's the cherry on top that the last commercially successful title they released was Shenmue. A rough game, but years ahead of its time in terms of game design (think about all the walking simulators/monotonous games that emulate working for a living we have now)

>> No.3473613

I like Sonic but Sonic Team as a whole is the most overrated studio in video game history

>> No.3474154

>>3473602

Shenmue still stands alone in a genre all it's own. Nothing has come close.

>> No.3474209

>>3473602
>Shenmue
>commercially successful

Pick one

>> No.3474213

>>3474209
>over 1 million sales on the fucking Dreamcast when modern AAA games struggle to sell that many on much more popular hardware
>not commercially successful

Pick one.

>> No.3474226
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3474226

>>3474154
>Shenmue still stands alone in a genre all it's own

>> No.3474227

>>3474213
By definition it can't be commercially successful since it didn't even recoup half of its costs

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>>3474213
>not understanding what ROI is

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>>3473602
>>3474213
>commercially successful
It's penguin time!

>> No.3474260

>>3474230
Look, I can gladly admit the game lost SEGA a shitload of money, but over 1 million sales for a video game isn't some arbitrary goalpost. It's a measure of commercial success.

If it wasn't commercially successful to some extent, this wouldn't have happened
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3

>> No.3474291

>>3474260
>actually trying to argue that a game whose sequel has a fucking Kickstarter is proof of its past success
I know what you want to say, but you're not doing a very good job of it. Take advantage of the fact that this is an anonymous board, and just vanish from this thread. You're digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole.

>> No.3474295

>>3474291
Nah, I'll leave with integrity and admit I did a shitty job of proving my point.

I concede.

Shenmue's still bretty good tho ;-)

>> No.3474419

>>3474295
Yeah, it's comfy and fun.

>> No.3474526

>>3473602
>choosing the studio that killed Sega with Shenmue's grossly huge budget

No, just no. Their arcade games weren't very great either, with the possible exception of Virtua Fighter.

>> No.3474662

>>3473538
You can't call them Greatest of All Time if they aren't. That acronym gets bandied about far too much.

As for best SEGA studio, AM2 hands down.

>> No.3474665

>>3474226

Find me any game that comes close

>> No.3474668

>>3474154
Shenmue is just a gayer GTA

>> No.3474674

>>3474227
>>3474230

The game was so far overbudget, they acknowledged this. I believe the quote was that every Dreamcast owner would need to buy 4 copies of Shenmue for it to make a profit.

Shenmue was another example of the crazy risks Sega was willing to take. It's a shame developers lost that adventurous spirit.

>> No.3474679

>>3474668

It has nothing in common with GTA at all.

>> No.3475179

>>3474260
>I can gladly admit the game lost SEGA a shitload of money
So then it's not a commercial success

>If it wasn't commercially successful to some extent, this wouldn't have happened
That only happened because the first two games failed to meet sales expectations so it was stuck in development hell for almost twenty years. That doesn't mean it wasn't a good game though...

>> No.3475185

>>3474668
Congrats anon, you're even dumber than the people that compare Shenmue to Yakuza.

>> No.3475194

>>3473602
When I look at my favorite arcade games, AM2 is a very prominent studio.

>> No.3475208
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3475208

>>3475194
Yu Suzuki is the greatest figure in retro vidya history.

>> No.3475232

>>3474674
Those risks are why they're smaller now.

>> No.3475283

AM7 and Ancient just for dat SoR2

>> No.3475367
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>>3472525
AM2 will probably always be my favorite on principle.
but seriously, look up the games AM2 has worked on, and pretty much ALL of the absolutely famous not-Sonic Sega games are from them, and they had the most consistently high quality output of the lot

Excluding AM2, I love AM3 the most. Crazy Taxi, Virtual On, Sega Rally are pretty much some of my favorite games of all time.

>>3473602
>last commercially successful game was Shenmue
didn't VF4 make back all the money they spent on Shenmue in like no time flat?

Shit, AM2 has never stopped being successful, even if they're stuck doing Miku games nowadays.

>> No.3476786

>>3475283
I always forget Ancient made SoR2 instead of Sega.

>> No.3476796

>>3475367
My game center has Project Diva Arcade. I'm not a fan of Vocaloid, but a rhythm game that has Magical Sound Shower, Like the Wind, After Burner, and Quartet theme is fine by me.

>> No.3476858

Which team made Panzer Dragoons?

Them

>> No.3476916

>>3476858
CS1/Team Andromeda/Smilebit

They also made Jet Set Radios

>> No.3477383

>>3473509
Depends which era you're talking about
~1990-1995 Sonic Team was GOAT

>> No.3477402

>>3473524
Sonic Team made Ristar you fucking idiot
Stop spreading misinformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ristar

>> No.3477406

>>3477402
>unironically citing Wiki
>a source anyone can edit

oh i am laughin hard

>> No.3477426

>>3477402
Yeah well my source says AM7 made it, bitch nigger.

http://segaretro.org/Sega_CS2

>It was founded in the mid 80's when Sega decided to grow their home console development, and establish CS divisions similar to their AM divisions. It was involed with ports from the arcade mostly from Sega AM1. However it has developed popular original projects in particular the Alex Kidd games, Phantasy Star games, Streets of Rage, Super Shinobi series and Ristar. During the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn era, it has mostly developed orginal games, with no association with arcade titles. In 2000 it became Overworks.

>> No.3477428

>>3477406
>Muh wiki is unreliable bullshit meme
The game was made by Sonic Team moron
You even have 3 damn citations there

>> No.3477458

>>3477426
AM7 was the co-studio helping
Sonic Team was the main developer

Ristar was based on a previous concept for Sonic and the game even shared the same engine as Sonic 1

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>>3477458
You're full of shit, mate. The guy that directed Ristar previously had never worked on ANY Sonic videogame.

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,71288/

>> No.3477490

>>3477463
>The guy that directed Ristar previously had never worked on ANY Sonic videogame.
http://segaretro.org/Akira_Nishino

Just stop talking

>> No.3477494

>>3477490
Akira is a game DESIGNER. Not the actual director. You fucking cretin.

>> No.3477513

>>3477494
No Akira Nishino along with Takeshi Niimura was the Director/Game Planner of Ristar
Nakamura was the Project Director

>> No.3477531

>>3477513
And only one of those guys worked on a Sonic Team game before Ristar. And it wasn't even one of the main ones.

Try again, nigga.

>> No.3477546

>>3477531
>And only one of those guys worked on a Sonic Team game before Ristar.
Try again retard
http://segaretro.org/Ristar#Mega_Drive_version
Most of these names have worked on Sonic games before and Sonic CD was a "main title" you're a fucking retard

>> No.3477553

>>3477546
Just fuck off. You lost, dumbass.

>> No.3477564

>>3477553
Yeah no I didn't
Most of these names have worked on Sonic before and this is a fact

Now run along little boy
>>>/v/

>> No.3477797

>>3477546
Sonic CD isn't a main title. The main Sonic games were the ones tha Naka developed, or 1, 2, 3, and S&K.

>> No.3477802

>>3477564
"Most"? Only 1 did, and that was Sonic CD. The director never touched Sonic. The other designer you mentioned? Never touched Sonic. You failed.