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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD, CACO EDITION - Last thread >>3455056

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/GnWMDhg0

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Doom download: https://yadi.
sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

RADIO
Found in http://liquiddoom.net/

>> No.3460387

[8-29]Vinesauce Mapping Contest Rules
https://vinesauce.com/vinetalk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=118438

[8-24] Func Map Jam 7 - Back to Base
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/mapjam7.html

[08-21] GZDoom Shaders Galore
- Retro Shader updates http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53250
- Lazy Palette Shader http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53252
- PSX Vertex Jiggler: >>3442719

[08-19] Anon mod: Unstealth >>3437946
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25843724/unstealth.wad

[08-19] Anon Release: Cute looking first map >>3435876
https://mega.nz/#!5I9DFbxY!jJLRdnfnYv4hVKUkmztjwsrt6caF97FHnhCPMO8SbJQ

[08-18] Anon Release: Drum Akimbo Shotguns >>3433687
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mlkl18wylos140p/AkimboDrumShotguns.pk3

[08-17] Quake 2] Mission 64 (Q2 N64 -> PC recreation attempt) >>3432010
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53046

[08-15] Anon mod: Brutal Basic >>3427361
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g970qa70a0af4na/Brutal_Basic.pk3

[08-13] MetaDoom first very early version released >>3423714
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53010

[08-10] Anon mod: Revenant Doom >>3418323
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi7j92ms6ns2jei/RevenantDoom.wad?dl=0

[08-10] Anon mod: Tex 2 Spek >>3418041
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0spu00qvoxe8g7/TEX2SPEK.pk3?dl=0

[08-04] Urania, new Plutonia megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/urania

[08-04] Anon maps update: Knee Deep Again >>3404968
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u1dec5iwynr6lm9/Knee_Deep_Again.wad

[08-04] THT Threnody (Ty Halderman Tribute project) released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/thtthren

[08-02] Anon map update: Earth >>3400398
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?showtopic=143

[07-30] Anon map WIP: Moonlit >>3397363
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0lh8qppkkmq2x7/Moonlit.pk3

[07-29] Anon map: HOUSE.wad >>3393371
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krtymf1c5am9saf/HOUSE.wad

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>> No.3460392
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>> No.3460393

The newest Func Map Jam for Quake is pretty fun. Glad I checked Quaddicted and found it.

>> No.3460394
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Personally, I wouldn't allow it.

>> No.3460395

I wonder what a Tacodemon tastes like.

>> No.3460398

>>3460395
Very gamey.

>> No.3460401

>>3460392
Is this Pom Pom disguised as a Cacodemon or a Cacodemon disguised as Pom Pom?

It's a mystery.

>> No.3460404

>>3460395
>Tacodemon

The Tacodemon appears about an hour or 2 after you eat tacobell. Eating the Tacodemon is not recommended, it is to be flushed down the toilet after it appears.

>> No.3460406

>>3460394
yeah it seems against the spirit to enter maps that weren't actually made for the contest. gives him a massive head start.

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>>3460404

>> No.3460420 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.3460425
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>>3460420

This is amazing

>> No.3460454

>>3460420
yes.
yes.
this is acceptable.

>> No.3460457

>>3460420
too many meems

>> No.3460459
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>>3460420
OVERLOAD

>> No.3460460

>>3460457
Agreed, fucking meme culture is ruining Doom.

>Walk into a room, super shotgun in the middle
>Pick it up, two hellknights are released from a closet
>You shoot them while circling around and move on

>Walk into a room, super shotgun in the middle
>Pick it up, two revenants are released from a closet
>AGITATING SKELETONS! SHITPOST RUNGO AT 500 DECIBELS

>> No.3460462

>>3460460
In general. Shit talking used to be funny shit back then in the days of 90s multiplayer. Now it's nothing but git gud, you mad, harambe and dicks out or whatever. Just repeat the same shit everyone else is.

>> No.3460463

>this mod requires a development version of gzdoom

how about fuck your shit?

i'm switching to zandronum, at least i can play that kind of mods online.

>> No.3460465

>>3460460
because that's the worst thing about the doom community

>> No.3460482

>>3460465
I don't believe I said it was, but if it would appease you, please feel free to assume I wrote "one of the things" between "is" and "ruining".

>> No.3460524
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>> No.3460561

>>3460524
>this switch lowers a wall across the whole room and releasing about 80-100 skeletons

>> No.3460582
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>til its impossible yet to rip doom 2016 models because of the fucking megatextures 2.0 format

>> No.3460593

>>3460582
is resex still unable to display textures on the models?

>> No.3460597

>>3460582

and don't expect idtech6 to be open source at all

propietary software up the fucking arse

they were just waiting for carmack to be gone

>> No.3460608

>>3460597

because everyone knows how fucking douchebags zenimax is...

this is why you have to pirate the last x64 iteration of the havok tools to mod animations into fallout 4...

and this is why it will take fucking months until someone manages to decrypt the textures format

>> No.3460610

>>3460597
it's got to do more with zenimax than them not willing to do it.

>wanting a modern idtech engine to be OS
what would people even do with it to justify this ever happening?

here I thought it was a given that modern engines aren't as flexible as they once were.

>> No.3460615

>>3460610
Learning, modify the engine to do what you want, or just use it in general.

Quadrilateral Cowboy uses Doom 3's engine on an open source license. Didn't expect that.

It would have looked better if they used UE3 or UE4 though.

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>> No.3460645

>>3460608
>this is why you have to pirate the last x64 iteration of the havok tools to mod animations into fallout 4...

I don't know shit about FO4 modding but what the fuck

Isn't it difficult as shit to get custom animations working into Skyrim, hence the need for FNIS for that game?

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>>3460631
He rotates.

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>>3460647
45 degree angles? This is too much, it's too good.

>> No.3460658

>>3460645

fallout 4 uses the last free version of the x64 havok tools, and its unobtainable, because of M$

no you need to pirate it somewhere, because some lazy fuck are saying that its "against the law"

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Got a regular Thomas Eichhorst in here.

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>>3460661
Maybe a blond Harrison Ford.

>> No.3460678
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>>3460674
Perhaps a Donald Trump.

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https://mega.nz/#!U8kyha4A!_SUkcAtQCQSptdxy4O4Hn_tEGDn0lVs0Nswr44DdziU

The Overtaker 3D. Wolfenstein clone with 3 enemies with rotations, some weapons, over 50 textures. The game recolours the 3 enemies for more variety, didn't see any palettes for them.

>> No.3460734

>>3460730

Can you do realms of the haunting?

>> No.3460737

>>3460734
Already tried, lots of people have, it's a mysterious format.

>> No.3460740

>>3460737

Fuck. What a damn shame, a lot of the sprites there are gr8

could you try to find some medieval/fantasy monsters and shit? Maybe Orcs & Elves?

>> No.3460745

>>3460740
Designed by John Carmack, I suspect it'll be as unrippable as Doom RPG.

I know someone got the 3D format for the levels figured out but they haven't shared, can't find the Doomworld thread.

>> No.3460812

>>3460740
>Orcs & Elves
FUCK IF I REMMEMBER THAT

_ ____ __ ____ the wand

>> No.3460835
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3460835

>playing through going down with doomrla
>tfw 200 mega hurts
Jesus take the wheel and save me from this martian/meatball combo meal

>> No.3460851

>>3460835
that map was pretty much cyriak being a massive cunt

>> No.3460862

>>3460678
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A .WAD

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>>3460851
in fairness he did bill the difficulty of GD as "chaotic evil"

but yeah 200 mega hurts can suck 200 mega dicks

>> No.3460945

>discardomg the entire prolouge section for the Vinesauce map I've made so far

Mainly because the default textures don't fit what I'm trying to do, and the custom's I found was a lot of effort for nothing.

10 days. 10 fucking days.

>> No.3460950

>>3460851
But that's the entire wad.

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Since that one anon asked nicely yesterday, rehosting another fireblu roundabout with the CH multiplayer version

[TSPG] fireblu

>> No.3460959
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Playing Project MSX.

Where the fuck do I find health? I'm getting REALLY sick of hearing that "heartbeat" sound the entire game. i can't even find a cheat that will give me health. I don't care about the challenge of the game having to play with 1 health and the regenerating shield. I just want to get rid of "bloody screen....sooo real"

>> No.3460963

>>3460835
>that moment in any map when you aggro a double digit number of archviles

>> No.3460969

>>3460959
you get health items that you have to use

check the controls, might have its own key

>> No.3460974

>>3460730
OK how do I play it?

>> No.3460976

>>3460959
I know, but I can't find any

>> No.3460985

>>3460974
You'd have to get the .jar and run it with microemulator or kemulator. Not sure if it'll actually run with them but those are the J2ME emulators we have.

http://phoneky.com/games/?id=j7j11250

>> No.3461000

Are there any mods that add weaker versions of the Arch-Vile? Be it smaller ones with no fire attack, less HP, or a higher pain chance.

>> No.3461017

>>3460959
The whole point of Project MSX is to replicate Halo/COD-style gameplay like bloody screens and regenerating health. If you don't like it just play something else.

>> No.3461020

>>3461017
>bloody screens
funny you mention that, its only a small transparent red aura thing, doesn't look like blood
>regenerating shields*
fixed it for you.

And for >>3460959
Bind a key for the use stim button, and for the shield charge too. that's how you recover health

>> No.3461023

How do I git gud, fellas? I see my friends whip through really tough maps packed with enemies and I try to do that same sort of swift, never idle, aggressive playing style and I get ripped to shreds by Chaingunners. I try the overly careful "clear out the enemies and then move on" approach and I get wasted, too.

I think I just have a genetic predisposition to suck.

>> No.3461043

Are there any textures packs made for Doom?

Like, I appreciate that I can use Quake textures, but they are were made with a much more possible map geometry in mind than what DOOM can offer.

>> No.3461047

>>3461043
Freedoom if you take the maps out of the WAD.

>> No.3461051

>>3461043
Lots, most notably the CC4 texture pack, and the as-of-yet-unreleased BTSX texture pack (to be released when BTSX E3 releases sometime in 2026)

>> No.3461059

>>3461051
>>3461047
Are there any lists? Realm 667 only has rips from other games.

>> No.3461062

>>3461059
wait are you asking for texture packs that replace the vanilla textures, or texture packs that provide you with more textures to use in mapping

>> No.3461063

>>3461062
The latter. Fan expansion texture packs, so to speak.

>> No.3461132
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what did i do?

>> No.3461136

>>3461132
two lumps are named SPIDB5, or SPIDB5xx, or SPIDxxB5, or any combination

>> No.3461142

>>3461059
a few texture packs in idgames/graphics
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/

afterglow's textures site
https://www.doomworld.com/afterglow/textures.shtml

nightmare's haunt
http://haunt.8m.com/textures.html

>> No.3461143

>>3461063
I could make some graphics for you anon~

>> No.3461146

>Only 10 days for a contest
>by the looks of it it's okay to upload stuff you didn't even make for the contest

Yeah, okay, I don't like walking on uneven ground.

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>>3461136
Near as I can tell that isn't the case though. I should be able to add new rotations in just fine, right? I've done it with other actors.

>> No.3461156

>>3461146
joel could have spent a few more days making better rules for a contest with steam cash prize

>> No.3461173

>>3461151
did you search for spidb5 in the search bar at bottom?

are you running it with other mods?

>> No.3461178

>>3461146
hopefully someone will cry foul if that is attempted, and before the winner receives his prize. although it would be a funny drama bomb if "Eccentric_Pagoda" won $200 for "Blunder.wad" and reputations were ruined in the fallout.

>> No.3461186

>>3461173
thought: the one in the iwad is named spidb5e5. a lump named spidb5 only would not override/replace it.

>> No.3461190

>>3461173
I did. No other variations of SPIDB5 in the wad, only running it with doom.wad

>> No.3461196

>>3461186
but mods that add in the missing rotations for zombies do the same thing, at least it looked like it when i checked a few minutes ago

>> No.3461208

>>3461186
Aha. This is definitely the issue. Well tits.
Now I gotta work in some tighter confines.

>> No.3461217

>>3461208
you'd think there'd be a way round that - it's unlike zdoom to restrict replacement monster sprites to the symmetries of the iwad versions

>> No.3461225

>>3461217
maybe you're meant to use a completely different sprite prefix (not SPID) and then decorate inheritance to create a copy of the spider demon which replaces the original while using the different prefix. The original SPID* sprites from the iwad are ignored.

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>>3460745
are you sure?

(i cheated and used a texture ripper thing on the ds version)

>> No.3461229

>>3461151
>>3461186
>>3461208
>>3461217
i put a random graphic in, named it SPIDB5, works fine in WAD and PK3 in GZDoom dev build and ZDoom 2.8.1

that's not the issue

there has to be another lump somewhere, like a SPIDB5 and a SPIDxxB5 in the mod

>> No.3461234

>>3461226
No, I only suspect it.

Using GL Interceptor to rip sprites from a game like that is such a pain, I tried it on some other fantasy game and I had to get a 100% save and even then you could only have a few items on you at a time and I could only rip what was loaded on screen.

It's not a a solution that gets you everything unless you complete the game 100%, on an emulator, while it chugs away at your HDD dumping copies of copies of sprites. It's a truly awful experience.

>> No.3461235

>>3460386
What's the best way of playing DM? What client do I get? I remember some great DM megawads back in the day, are those still in circulation or is it all just custom BS with gimmicks?

>> No.3461237

>>3461217
Not using zdoom is my issue. Works fine in zdoom

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>>3461229
Nah, I'm just an idiot is all. Jumping around from source port to source port is messing with me a bit.

>> No.3461242

>>3461237
oh. well fuck.

>> No.3461320

What are the loot chances in drla?

>> No.3461368

>>3461320
there's never enough modpacks. especially the super ones. found maybe 2 sniper mods and 1 firestorm over 4 or 5 megawads. don't think i saw a nano mod ever

>> No.3461375

i found more legendary weapons in chests than i found exotic modpacks. even those bloody twin shotguns with a reload you don't understand

>> No.3461381

>>3461320

Despite the fact that Power, Bulk, Agility and Tech mods spawn at the same chance, I always seem to find Agility and Tech mods the most.

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Alright. What about this one?
Doom wiki says "A sprite has both frames for a normal rotation and for a single view. ", which means almost nothing to me, since all sprites have single view deaths. Is that the only case where it's allowed?

>> No.3461470

>>3461457
the single-view death *sprites* only have rot=0 lumps.
a monster uses many sprites.

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>>3461470
Hmmm. Alright alright alright... After all this fucking with this game I still have no idea what I'm doing. Guess I'll keep screwing with it.

>> No.3461502

>>3460959
What annoys me in Project MSX are those fucking goat imps.

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What would you estimate as the average map count of wads with more than one map?

>> No.3461510

>>3461508
3

>> No.3461541

>>3461508
find the guy who runs wad-archive.com and ask him to query his database

>> No.3461557

>>3461508

My knee-jerk reaction would be 16, right in the middle.
Mappers tend to either make 2-3 maps, 13-16 maps, or a full 32 megawad.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a deviation.

>> No.3461567

>>3461557
There's also those "episode length" wads that go up to e#m8 or to Dead Simple.

>> No.3461621

10 years ago or so I used to play zdoomgl. You could jump, look up, jump over sprites, it had opengl graphics acceleration, and there was a monster pack which replaced all the sprites with 3d models. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT SINCE!

>> No.3461626

Question to this general. If I am to make a monster replacement, would it be too jarring if double the sprite resolution?
What about x1.5?


>>3461621
But all models suck, anon

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im gonna do it lads
im going to fucking do it
i will put day of defeat, down to its exact models, sounds, animations, and gun handling

into doom

>> No.3461636

>>3461628
YOU GODDAMN MADMAN

>> No.3461639

>>3461628
Fucking do it, faggot.
Sorry, you're not a faggot. Do it anyway though.

>> No.3461642

>tfw no mf doom doom wad

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>>3461628
>having the MGs with recoil so fucking massive that itll get in the way of Doom's gameplay

wew

>> No.3461657

>>3461628
gun too big

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>>3461628
doom needs more moist nuggets, and you're just the man for the job

>> No.3461674

>>3461653
bipods

>> No.3461680

>>3461628
<some shitpost about using filters>

>> No.3461684

>>3461674
fair enough, I was mainly joking tho

>> No.3461691

>>3461680
this but unironically

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>when you want to map but you're completely out of ideas

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Boy, these 40mm teargas rounds are the bees knees.

>>3461728
Welcome to me for the past several years.

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>>3461737
This baby just keeps solving my problems.

>> No.3461747

Is lump filtering the only way to check if a player's using Ultimate Doom in ZDoom?

>> No.3461751
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3461751

>>3461745

>> No.3461754
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3461754

>>3461751
Well, almost, this Vile was behind a thick set of bars and I couldn't put a teargas canister between them, I had to prod him and shoot him with me rifle.

>> No.3461764

>>3461728
>when you full of ideas but completely suck at mapping

>> No.3461767

>>3461754
>>3461745
>>3461737
What's with this cringy blogposting?

>> No.3461769

>>3461747

It's not the only way.

But it is the sane way.

>> No.3461773

>>3461751
>>3461754

>center & angled weapons in the same mod

eeeew

>> No.3461774

>>3461767

Cringy? I know they're not terribly interesting posts, but something has to be wrong with you if you're cringing while reading them.

>> No.3461781

>>3460463
I actually really like Zandronum for offline play aswell. I use it over Zdoom and GDZDoom whenever possible.

>> No.3461782
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3461782

>>3461767
>cringy

>> No.3461787

>>3461782

the fuck is that

>> No.3461795

>>3461728
http://www.inc.com/kevin-daum/7-ways-to-generate-great-ideas.html

http://stoney.sb.org/eno/oblique.html
>What mistakes did you make last time?

>>3461767
Here we go again with the "blogging" complaints

>>3461787
That is a genetic yalgo, if you'll just read the filename.

>> No.3461807

>>3461795
>if you'll just read the filename.

>yalgo
>yano

back to elementary you go

>> No.3461815
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3461815

>>3461807
>not catching "genetic"
>criticizing another's reading comprehension

wew lad

>> No.3461831

>>3461807
>>3461815
teehee

>> No.3461853

>>3461745
>>3461751
>>3461754
What wad?

>> No.3461873
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3461873

>>3461767
>>>/v/

>>3461773
Yeah, I know, but it's like 15 years old, there were less standards back then.
Some of the ideas in the mod are still really good to this day though (and it's still kinda fun).

Like, if you step on a large healthkit or ammobox while being almost topped off on health or ammo of that type, you won't pick up and waste the entire pickup, you'll just leave the open box and you can come back and grab the rest of it later, you'll even see how many cartridges remain in an open box of shotgun shells.

I think it's probably also the first time anyone made an actually fragmenting grenade for Doom, and it's really useful, those fragments really fuck up pretty much anyone or anything that gets caught nearby, ESPECIALLY in tight quarters, where the fragments just bounce about and 'rip' like crazy, if there's a cyberdemon in a tight space, and if you can pitch in a couple of grenades in there (and take cover), that shrapnel will just fuck him (on the flip side, cybies also have itchier trigger fingers and faster, more powerful rockets, so this is even more dangerous to do).

All monsters also hurt you more, specters are sped up, all bullets hurt more, I feel it makes for higher stakes, it's harder, but it's not like Hideous Destructor hard.
I also love the flares, they can keep a dark and dank area lit up so you can get a good look of what's going on, what to run from or take cover from, what to shoot first.

>> No.3461880
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>> No.3461894

>>3461873
>Like, if you step on a large healthkit or ammobox while being almost topped off on health or ammo of that type, you won't pick up and waste the entire pickup,

Oh, that's cool. My 'Smart Scavenger' mod did something similar.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35091

>> No.3461895

>>3461880
Is Happy Time Circus 2 the best Blood-like mod for Doom out there?

>> No.3461901
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3461901

Best Samsara hero or best Samsara hero?

>> No.3461903
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3461903

>>3461853
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/bstain
Mapset is Bloodstain (Bstain.wad), it's pretty good, fairly even difficulty, it's kind of like the medium strength salsa of Plutonia-ish mapsets.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48036
Gameplay mod is a modern ZDoom port of Cory Whittle's Immoral Conduct: Special Edition (icd-se.wad), a mod which was exclusive to Edge for well over a decade (I don't count the old DeHacked minimod).

The way the port works is slightly unorthodox (because Cory was very touchy about people using his assets) you first load the original icd-se.wad for all of it's assets and then you load a second .wad which contains all the code to use the assets and running it in ZDoom.

It's very faithful, it even gets the dynamic lighting to look very close to how it did in the old Edge engine.

>> No.3461904

>>3461873
i too prefer glass-cannon monsters/players instead of bullet sponging

>> No.3461912

>>3461901
BJ's chaingun is pretty good.

>> No.3461913

>>3461895
what.

>> No.3461921

>>3461903
>Mapset is Bloodstain (Bstain.wad)
Just looking at your screenshots here and the thumbnails on onemandoom, I'm really liking the visual style of this wad, I've gotta try it out.

>> No.3461924

>>3461921
Bloodstain is good shit. Very tightly designed.

>> No.3461927
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3461927

>>3461904
I'm fine with a bit of bulletsponging when it's reasonable, like, a Mancubus is a fat fucker, obviously a bullet that would penetrate deep enough to kill a person might not be adequate for a Mancubus, not without a whole lot of tries or a bigger gun.

I'm generally fine with big and bad boss monsters taking a beating, because you want a boss fight to not be over in the blink of an eye, but there's of course always exceptions.
NeoDoom is an example of unforgivable bullet sponging, those stupid Super Vixen bosses had like 65000hp, which is just obscene, this was a mod where you carried like 35+ different weapons at a time, as well as probably 15+ inventory items of various kinds, yet there wasn't anything you had which would really make those fights not last forever, particularly that time you had to fight several of them.

>> No.3461929

>>3461924
Yeah.

I'm a guy who's a sucker for eye candy in .wads, but Bloodstain manages to look pretty good while having pretty basic detailing.

>> No.3461941

Let's just agree that Barons of Hell were poorly designed.

>> No.3461943

>>3461941
Barons are just imps with much more damaging projectiles and more health.

>> No.3461956
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3461956

>>3461941
No, just poorly utilized over the years. Pic related is good utilization.

>> No.3461961
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3461961

>>3461956
>that texture alignment

>> No.3461964

>>3461956
Just earlier in the level to the left there was a couple of barons blocking a 64-unit wide staircase, though.

>> No.3461969

>>3460862
It's gonna be the best .wad, believe me.

>> No.3461970

>>3461969
i've got good sprites, i've got the best sprites

>> No.3461972

>>3461941
They're just abused is all.

It's fine to put one in as kind of a mini boss monster, but if you're thinking of having a bunch of them, consider using knights instead, it makes for better flow of gameplay.

For example, 8 barons at once is just going to be tedious no matter what, but 7 knights and 1 baron can make for a good arena encounter provided there's space to maneuver, and the player isn't stuck with the chaingun or shotgun.

>> No.3461979

>>3461941

I keep hearing this but nobody explains why, so no.

>> No.3461982

>>3461943

Zombies are just imps with hitscan weapons and less health.

>> No.3461983

>>3461982
or are imps just zombies with fireballs and more health

>> No.3461986

>>3461979
Health sponges that aren't anymore difficult to dodge than an imp, I assume. They hit harder is all.

They're okay, but more often than not I end up using Hell Knights instead

>> No.3461993
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3461993

>>3461983
>post yfw imps are just demons with fireballs

>> No.3462000
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3462000

>specters are just demons that you cant see
really makes you think

>> No.3462002

>>3461982

Cyberdemons are just bigger imps that fire rockets instead of fireballs, fire in bursts and have more health.

>> No.3462003
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3462003

>>3461993
FUCK THAT'S NOT THE PICTURE I WANTED TO USE

>> No.3462005

>>3462000
wwhoa

>> No.3462006
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3462006

>>3462000
trips of truth

>> No.3462008

>>3461993
>hell knights are just imps with 6 times as much health
>barons are just knights with twice as much health
>cacodemons are imps that can fly
>pain elementals are unfun to fight

>> No.3462009
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3462009

>>3462000
>>3461993
>pain elementals are just lost souls that shoot other lost souls

>> No.3462010

>>3462003
it's too late, you want imp dick

>> No.3462020
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3462020

Boy this thread is going places

>> No.3462025
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3462025

>>3462009
>arachnotrons are just rapid-fire pain elementals with projectiles that die on impact

>> No.3462030
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3462030

>>3462020
you must be new here, this is fairly standard

>> No.3462034
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3462034

>>3462020

This is pretty standard stuff, honestly.

>> No.3462035

>>3462030

oh god that shirt

>> No.3462039
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3462039

>>3462025
>arachnotrons are just chaingunners with projectiles

>> No.3462040

>>3461912
The laser-accurate machinegun ain't too bad, either.

>> No.3462041
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3462041

>tfw no baron bf

>> No.3462042

>>3462030

I'm not new, far from it, but damn guys, I haven't seen this level of back to back lewd image posting for awhile now.

>> No.3462045

doomguy is just a player controlled demon with guns
AND THEN JOHN WAS A ZOMBIE

>> No.3462048
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3462048

>>3462042
>lewd image posting

SHIT MAN YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING

NOW HERE'S SOME FUCKIN' LEWD SHIT

>> No.3462049

>doomguy is just b.j. blazckowicz with more guns

>> No.3462050
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3462050

>>3462042
cropped lewd isn't really lewd

it's actually better

>> No.3462051

>>3462048
MODS

>> No.3462052

>>3462045
cool doom meme reference.

>> No.3462053

>>3462048
OH MY GOD

THIS IS A BLUE BOARD

>> No.3462054

>>3462048
you sick fuck!!!

>> No.3462056

>>3462048
REPORTED

MOOOODS

>> No.3462057
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3462057

>>3462039
>hell knights are just arachnotrons with a slower rate of fire

>> No.3462058

>>3462048
now kiss

>> No.3462059
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3462059

>>3462048

>> No.3462062

>>3462050
>>3462048
OH THE HUMANITY

>> No.3462063

>>3462048
And here we were all having good healthy fun and you had to post that.

>> No.3462064

>shitty anime porn crop posting
back to >>>/v/

>> No.3462065
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3462065

>>3462048
That ain't nothing, faggot.

>> No.3462067

>>3462065
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING MODS

>> No.3462068

>>3462065
lewd
LEWD

L E W D
E
W
D

>> No.3462069

>>3462065
i think i'm going to faint
this shit is too hardcore for my puritan upbringing

>> No.3462071

Great, not once but twice?

This thread's getting nuked, nothing will stop that now.

Thanks, faggots.

>> No.3462079

god dammit /doom/ i fucking love you all.
never change, you glorious winged faggots.

>> No.3462080
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3462080

>>3462071
It had to end this way.

>> No.3462086

>>3462080
how many times are you gonna post this image?

>> No.3462089

>>3462086
>posting images on an imageboard

>> No.3462090

>>3462086

I'm pretty sure I've only seen that image like twice or so before. Why are you speaking like he's spammed it every day for the past week or something?

>> No.3462091
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3462091

>>3462086

>> No.3462096
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3462096

>>3462086
>getting mad about reaction images on an imageboard

>> No.3462098

>>3462086
eh, this guy posts this image >>3461815 a lot, the doom/retro fps thread has a lot of regular posters.

>> No.3462106
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3462106

>>3462098
and regular boners

>> No.3462107
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3462107

>>3462086

I posted that pic earlier over skeleton related shenanigans, that post you're quoting isn't me though, note the lack of a filename on it.

>> No.3462113

>>3462091
Different guy that doesn't mind the reaction image, but does mind bad detective work.

>>https://warosu.org/vr/image/gKLaCTwEPU_Ue3cc73cLFA
>>https://warosu.org/vr/image/02WD4rhH4O670OhKoGMebA

>> No.3462115

>>3462086
how many times are revenants going to appear in this map?

>> No.3462118
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3462118

>>3462113
>>>>https://warosu.org/vr/image/gKLaCTwEPU_Ue3cc73cLFA

>6 of those posts were mine

>> No.3462120

>>3462118
Post it more.

>> No.3462162
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3462162

Doom needs a post modernist movement and I'm just the critical theorist to give it that.

>> No.3462171

>>3461508

Post more Demonsteele girl.

>> No.3462174

>>3462162
>a MGS2-esque Doom mod that questions the passing of information to future generations and whether mankind deserves to be free whilst you blast demons at breakneck speed like usual

>> No.3462182
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3462182

>>3462171
i wish shi-hong and hae-lin's designs were swapped

>> No.3462190

>>3462030
is that fucking loss?

>> No.3462191

>>3462190
no that's fem!squidward

>> No.3462209

>>3462182

why though

>> No.3462221
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3462221

>>3462209
because i literally thought that was the case for ages for some reason, and learning that it was the opposite ruined me

it just makes more sense to me for shi-hong to be the swordswoman and the shortstack to be the cyborg

knowing that hae-lin is the sword-weilding badass that i thought was shi-hong for the longest time has legitimately been fucking with my head ever since i realised this

>> No.3462239

>>3462221

...
Wait
WHAT THE FUCK.

>> No.3462241

>>3462221
>it just makes more sense to me for shi-hong to be the swordswoman and the shortstack to be the cyborg

See, to me, it's the exact opposite. Since Shihong punches, I'd go with the taller and broader and bustier one to be the slugger. A sword is easier to do damage with, so it'd make sense for the smaller one to be the stabber.

>> No.3462243

>>3462221
why a shorty a cyborg

>> No.3462246
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3462246

>>3462243
because traditional anime trope of younger/smaller actually being stronger

>> No.3462250

>>3462246
i think bigger is stronger is the more common trope if that soothes your mind

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3462251

>>3462246

>> No.3462253

>>3462246
i'd say the opposite is just as true

makoto kusanagi, one of the most famous chinese cartoon cyborgs, is supposed to be pretty ripped

>> No.3462256

>>3462251

Dayum.

>> No.3462261

>>3462251
>never actually a playable character

ugh

>> No.3462262

>>3462251
Aiki is the greatest manga of all time

>> No.3462263

>>3462262
what about dilbert

>> No.3462265

>>3462263
Second greatest

Not enough boobs

>> No.3462268

>>3462263
Not as good as Cory in the House.

>> No.3462284
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3462284

Guys, I need your help here. I wanna do some basic bitch modding shit but I have no friggin' idea what I'm doing.

See, I want to take this monster:
http://realm667.com/index.php/en/beastiary-mainmenu-136-69621/doom-style-mainmenu-105-73113/545-slime-worm

and replace the Pinky demon with it using SLADE or some equivalent program.

Obviously, I do not know how to do this. If any of you know, please explain it to me like I'm an idiot.

>> No.3462289

>>3462284
In the actor name definition, add "replaces Demon".

Like
>actor SlimeMonster replaces Demon

>> No.3462291

>>3462289
Shit, it's that easy?

Thanks!

>> No.3462295
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3462295

>>3462291
it's not that easy because you'll have to import all the sprites and write that shit out in decorate, also import sounds and write a sndinfo if you want to replace the noises it makes

but at any rate just ask questions as you go, this thread is pretty damn helpful

>> No.3462298

>>3462251
I want Shi-Hong in this outfit, fucking pronto.

>> No.3462304

>>3462295
Shit, man, I don't want to morph the Pinky into this thing, I just want this thing to spawn when the Pinky is supposed to.

>> No.3462312

>>3462304
yeah, but to do that properly you have to edit/replace all of the pinky's animation sprites and sounds

>> No.3462316

>>3462312

Or you could just put "replaces Demon" in the actor's definition.
Then every time you load the wad it replaces the fucking Demon.

It isn't fucking rocket science, it seriously is that easy.

>> No.3462317

>>3462304
>I just want this thing to spawn when the Pinky is supposed to.

then just add "replaces demon" to the actor name

don't listen to the other anon

>> No.3462326

>>3462317
It worked perfectly! Thank you anon.

>> No.3462327
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3462327

>>3462316
oh shit i thought it was a sprite-pack, not a full-on monster

whoops

so yeah, just change "actor SlimeWorm" to "actor SlimeWorm: demon replaces demon"

>> No.3462335

>>3462098
> the doom/retro fps thread has a lot of regular posters.

>>3462246
>>https://warosu.org/vr/image/prErt9PRpoDasKGSRwOzMA
Keep being you, Considerthefollowing Anon

>> No.3462350
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3462350

Is there a way to combine multiple wads into one?

>> No.3462406
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3462406

>>3462350

yeah, combine the files manually

good luck

>> No.3462413
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3462413

>>3462406
>yeah, combine the files manually

Oh, boy. That sounds like it could go horribly wrong if I don't pay attention.

>> No.3462418
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3462418

>>3462413

it could potentially not go at all

welcome to modding doom

>> No.3462432

>>3462418
I just wanna put my monster replacing mods together...

>> No.3462436

>>3462350
You could try throwing them into a pk3 somehow?

>> No.3462447
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3462447

>>3462432
cactus if you put those fireblu monsters into singleplayer i will find you and i will kill you

>> No.3462450

>>3462447
I swear I'm not that guy and I am not planning on that.

I am very afraid right now and want to go home.

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3462459

>>3462327
>>3462317
Is there a "Sometimes Replaces" command or something along those lines for those times you only want a monster variant to spawn occasionally?

>> No.3462460

>>3462459
For that you want a randomspawner, and from there things get a little more complicated.

>> No.3462467

>>3462350
Yes, but for what purpose?

>> No.3462473

>>3462467
I'm currently adjusting monster wads from Realm667 to replace certain enemies. I'd like to put them all together into one big pack so I don't need to load eight different wads every time I start the game.

>> No.3462485
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3462485

>>3462450
you have nothing to worry about if you are not Cactus

>> No.3462553

>>3461320
Is DRLA any good? What wads and other mods should I play it with?

>> No.3462564
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3462564

>>3462553
It will not be everyone's taste. Some people might be annoyed at the extra management. Curiously, it's the only mod I know of that imposes a weapon limit (default is at six) and thus will have to swap out guns every now and then, something I actually wouldn't mind seeing in more gameplay mods if done right. Unfortunately, it does not support Z& and so you're stuck with GZDoom's shitty netplay if you wish to do co-op stuff.

Since I have shit taste, I use this load order that uses some furry's OBLIGE build from their forums that also has extra themes and other tweaks I can apply. If I want to run a m3u playlist of nothing but Eurobeat I simply take out the Demonsteele MIDI randomizer.

Also, the usefulness and overall experience of each class and weapon varies on the map set. There's no way in hell that silenced or accurate long-ranged weapons that aren't the Anti-Materiel Rifle would be useful in an OBLIGE fuckfest or slaughter, but maybe on other mapsets they'll be more useful.

>> No.3462568 [SPOILER] 
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>>3462564
Also, here's a cheat sheet of all assemblies available in 1.05. You're likely not to bother with a ton of these and the Advanced ones aren't always better than the Basics. High power anything (PB), Heavy [any] Shotgun (BB), and the micro launcher (TT) are some personal favorites that are easy to make and get started with.

Pistols are generally shit but the Scout makes great use of them, Revolver downs pinkies so easily

I've had fun with most of the master assemblies except the Plasma Refractor

>> No.3462576

>>3462564
> I use [...] some furry's OBLIGE build from their forums that also has extra themes and other tweaks

please, PLEASE tell me more

>> No.3462582
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>>3462576
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=441.0

Click on the May 30th update text for the Mediafire link, use the theme control for shit like snow/gothic maps and see the gameplay tweaks. The texture set wad that's in the root of the folder has to be loaded with whatever new maps OBLIGE shits out for you or you'll get an assload of missing textures.

I assume the guy was a furry with that dragon or sergal-thing avatar

>> No.3462653
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3462653

Thoughts on BLOODCRUSHER II? I just found out about it, looks like development has been paused for quite a while on indiedb.

>> No.3462657

>>3462568
What's not to like about the Plasma Refractor?
it's plasma
it refracts
what more could you want?

>> No.3462660
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>>3461457
Usually for sprite rotations the game uses:

the first 4 letters as the id for the sprite
the fifth letter to denote the frame of animation
(for player skins A,B,C,D for walking, E,F for firing, G for pain, H-W for death and gib)
and then a number for the rotation.

Usually for non-death sprites you have a full set for each frame like
PRGIA1
PRGIA2A8
PRGIA3A7
PRGIA4A6
PRGIA5
which are five sprites for facing south, southwest, west, northwest, and north, with simple mirroring done to get the east-facing rotations.

If the number is 0, that sprite is displayed regardless of what direction you view the sprite, usually used for death animations.

So what I think is happening is you accidentally added or mislabeled a sprite such that there is both rotated sprites as well as one that's designated to be displayed from all directions for that frame, like

SPIDJ5
...
SPIDJ0

I peeked into doom2.wad and found that SPIDJ is a death frame so you probably have mislabeled something somewhere, there should only be one entry in the "J" series and that should be SPIDJ0.

>> No.3462679

>>3461901
everyone loves a good bj

>> No.3462692

>>3462657
Yeah but the Plasma Cannon
It's plasma too
But it booms

>> No.3462704

>>3462582
Oh, Glaice aka Mr Chris aka BrutalVideoVault and a few other names. Slightly self-important but fairly harmless. If furry, he doesn't make a song and dance about it.

>> No.3462714
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>>3462704
>he doesn't make a song and dance about it

Kind of what I figured by taking a nosy

Until OBLIGE gets updated his edited build for now is quite nice

>> No.3462715

>>3462692
but i can kill you

>> No.3462721

>>3462715
Not with netcode like that!

>> No.3462724

>>3462692
You make an excellent point.

>> No.3462725

>>3462721
i may be missing he leer ""
you know he on ha looks like an upside down caital l

>> No.3462726
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3462726

Term please tell me there is a way to work out a map progression check on a spawner without putting an awkward 5 tic delay because the item loads before the OPEN script does. Is some way to wait for the map to be fully loaded?

>> No.3462737

>>3462726
argh, race conditions. my sympathies to you.

>> No.3462740

Joel just clarified that your map has to be made for the contest. Itd be unfair otherwise.

>> No.3462751

>>3462737
All I can think of is having EXIT and ENTER scripts alongside the OPEN one, along with a fourth script that the spawner runs and a global variable.

EXIT script - sets butt to 1
ENTER script - sets butt to 0
spawner script - waits for butt to = 0

I bet ENTER scripts run before OPEN scripts somehow anyway

>> No.3462763

>>3462653
Every now and then I forget its name and I struggle to find it, and then try to cope with the no development.

I think it looks cool.

>> No.3462773

>>3462740
sanity prevails

>> No.3462785

>tfw your creativity is so completely fucked you can't even decide on the tfw image to accomodate the post
mapping: no
sounds: no
decorate: no
ACS: no

>> No.3462790

>>3462785
Depression?

>> No.3462794

>>3462790
nah
brain constipation
also i want to go to bed but i have a delivery i have to stay awake for that's in like 3-4 more hours

>> No.3462801

>>3462794
90 minutes is the length of one complete sleep cycle, give yourself 2 hours on the alarm.

>> No.3462949

jesus christ is DooM 2 a piece of shit, Industrial Zone, fucking ughhhhh

>> No.3462953

>>3461956
what are you talking about you retard, this is fucking awful level design. It's literally just luring them to a small open doorway and hoping the autoaim hits them.

>> No.3462958
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>Decide to make BFG replacement a toggle-able x3 damage powerup that uses plasma ammo as a battery
>Realise some maps just give you the BFG by itself at the start
>"I'll just make the pistol replacement have a larger multiplier!"
>Realise pistol replacement also has infinite recharging ammo
Gameplay balance is hard.

>> No.3462960

>>3462958

What're you working on?

>> No.3462961
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>>3462949

>> No.3462978

>>3462961
Actually that's the agreed consensus here, are you new?

>> No.3462981

>>3462978

nope, its because,who knows if will ever have the chance of post this here

>> No.3462983

>>3462981
>,who knows if will ever have the chance of post this here
what.

>> No.3462986

>>3462983
anon is considering becoming an hero

>> No.3462987

>>3462958
Just replace it with a fedora and a katana

>> No.3462991

do you guys play with saves or no saves?
i cant imagine playing shit like plutonia 2 without saves

>> No.3462994

>>3462991
I quicksave when I pick up keys.

>> No.3463003

>>3462991
No saves, otherwise I don't feel challenged at all nor do I feel tension.

>> No.3463013

>>3462960
Unreal/Turok tribute thing, I don't want the BFG of the Unreal loadout to be a nuke weapon, because the original game didn't have one (more focus on strategically using your arsenal and equipment), and the Turok loadout's going to have the nuke weapon anyway.

>> No.3463015

>>3463013

Can you show us some screenshots or gameplay?

Or are you the one posting screenshots of the HUD with the little bars on the bottom right and the unreal weapon rips?

>> No.3463084
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3463084

What if... strigoi in Doom?

>> No.3463086

>>346295
>being this shitter shattered
wanna know how I know you died over 20 times in that map on your first run, and still struggle to get past it now?

>> No.3463090

Was there ever a full log of what changed in Doom & Doom 2 after each patch?

>> No.3463094

>>3463086
you've got to calm down, you even fudged the post number in your haste to be a tough guy online

>> No.3463102

>>3463094
>still here
>still this sensitive
only replying to this post will save you from E4M2 now

>> No.3463104

>>3463015
The latter, yeah. Not much to show that you haven't already seen.

>> No.3463106

> video games
> arguing
have you two considered doing something else
i see that there's new posts, thinking someone might post somethin interesting
but no, it's just two idiots yelling at one another

>> No.3463109

>>3463104
Might wanna work on that HUD a little, last time I saw it was really busy.

But your goal is noble as fuck and I'm excited to play it

>> No.3463114

>>3463094
ah, I see, sorry. meant to quote you here:
>>3462953
thanks for pointing that out. now I feel a bit comfier.

>> No.3463119

>>3462978
It's the consensus here because this general is a faggot. And Industrial Zone is a great map.

>> No.3463123

>>3463119
>this general is a faggot
Damn, you sure told that general.

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>>3463119
Industrial Zone is my favorite map

>> No.3463126 [DELETED] 

>>3463123
indeed, faggot. circle jerk some more in your complete and utter plebdom.

>> No.3463129

>>3463119
might want to slow down on your posting since it seems you broke your english in your haste to shitpost :^)

>> No.3463137

>bawwww
lol cry more unreal autist

>> No.3463138

>>3463090
Something like this perhaps?
https://tcrf.net/Doom_(PC,_1993)/Revisional_Differences

>> No.3463150

>>3463106
oh no a grand total of four posts off topic

thread ruined

>> No.3463153

new thread when

>> No.3463159

>>3463153
hell, at this point i'd take it
maybe there we can discuss doom and not pointlessly argue

>> No.3463167

>>3462991
No saves if I want a real challenge.
Saves if I just want to relax or check out the map or... Just in case the game crashes or something.

>> No.3463169

>>3463159
Are you the same faggot who goes on a whining fit when new threads don't get made?

>> No.3463171

>>3463159
>pointlessly argue
nice damage control.

your veins are still itching for more shitposting, better bail out before your posts get deleted.

>> No.3463201
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3463201

Alright guys, I want to commission someone to do a sprite replacement overhaul thing. Which one of these two options would be more practical?

1. Commissioning a sprite sheet of each character.

2. Commissioning 3D models of each character and having them converted into sprites.

>> No.3463207

>>3463201
Latter would be cheaper. Just a 3D model and a few frames of animation plus tiny renders VS drawing over and over and over.

>> No.3463215

>>3463201
If you pay someone to make sprites, be sure to specify that it needs to be made with 1.2x tall pixels in mind, so 83.333% shorter.

Also that there's a palette and the outline needs to be aliased.

>> No.3463217

Everyone shut up and look at this

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/85042-doom-snes-hacking-guide-documentation/3/

They're fucking hacking the SNES doom. MADMEN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j1PWNX1cYI

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>>3463109
What do you mean by busy? The layout's basically the same as the Unreal's, just the boxes at the top right aren't being used for anything yet.

>But your goal is noble as fuck and I'm excited to play it
I'm glad to hear! Just please be aware that the goal isn't to port the game assets into Doom a la Samsara.

>> No.3463221

>>3463207
Right, so obviously the 3D model idea is the best. Cheaper, easier for the artist, less time consuming.

It'll be just like Doom 64.

>> No.3463227

Im playing no rest for the living with colorful hell and legendoom. I made it to map 3 before i came to a room with a lot of pinkies and countless bees some of which were legendary.

>> No.3463231

>>3463220
personally i don't like armor and health being so far apart

>> No.3463242
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>>3463221
Absolutely, plus it's not far off from how most of Doom's enemy sprites were made, just a model on a turn table with a lamp and a camera.

Also if you try to find an artist to just draw them then you run the risk of paying for something like this which will stick out like a sore thumb.

>> No.3463250

>>3463221
>>3463242
Also, simplify that design. Notice what details went away when scaled to sprite size.

The arm bands are just single pieces, the skull codpiece just a cup, the shoulder ridges just epaulettes, the nose is just one pixel wide, the pants just became striped.

>> No.3463253

how do you implement damage dropoff in doom?
if possible can it be done with a single acs function so i can apply it to every gun?

>> No.3463267
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>>3463242
Ohhhh, lookit the baby~

He's so fucking cute, holy shit.

>>3463250
>Also, simplify that design. Notice what details went away when scaled to sprite size.

Hmm. I've seen people do "high resolution" sprites before. I think I can make it work. If not, I can work with compromise.

>> No.3463270
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>>3462653
so much dakka

>> No.3463272

>>3463242
That really looks like something out of Ken's Labyrinth for some reason.
I like it!

>> No.3463279

>>3463267
I tried for a while but I can't think of anything HD that worked in Doom, the inconsistent pixel size would be bad.

If this was an entirely new project and assets wouldn't mix with Doom's originals, then it would be fine.

>> No.3463283
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3463283

Since it never seems to end

[TSPG] Fireblu Revisited

multiplayer colorful hell with combined arms this time around and some plutonia revisited community project
Note; 3.0 zandro server

>> No.3463284

>>3463283
oh no more white enemy variants that stall the server for 10-20 minutes.

>> No.3463285

>>3463279
Well, I mean, there's this

http://www.moddb.com/mods/x24-sprite-pack-doom

>> No.3463286
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>>3461668
i tried your idea just for the fuck of it, but im not sure now if i should include a mosin in a supposed 1:1 clone of day of defeat

>> No.3463287

>>3463284
only if you didnt eat your lucky charms today

>> No.3463291

>>3463286
>magic mosin nagant

>> No.3463294
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3463294

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EosAcVKZiMk

>> No.3463295

>>3463279
Action Doom 2 did HD Sprites, and scaled them with Decorate.

>> No.3463296
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3463296

>>3463291
magic garand

>> No.3463301

>>3463285
I still can't think of anything HD that worked in Doom

>>3463295
That looked good in the Doom engine, but only because it was all new assets with the same style and didn't mix with Doom's original graphics.

>> No.3463303

>>3463296
That's one hungry gun

>> No.3463306

>>3463301
Yeah, you got a point there. It doesn't help that most HD Sprites look butt ugly,

>> No.3463314

>>3463301
I dunno man, a lot of original doom assets are in Action Doom 2. Namely, every enemy.

>> No.3463319
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>>3463314
That's not how I remember Action Doom 2 at all.

>> No.3463320

>>3463319
He's thinking of Action Doom 1.

>> No.3463321

>>3463319
Oh sorry, got confused. I was thinking of Action Doom 1.

I've seen people mix Doom 64 sprites into regular doom, and it didn't look too bad. But I guess that's subjective.

>> No.3463324
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>> No.3463343
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>>3463301
Best thing Action Doom 2 did style-wise was the faux toon shading by flipping normals.

Works surprisingly well, and sometimes looks better than normal poly toon shading. Neat trick.

>> No.3463390
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3463390

Hey, I have a basic idea of how to replace weapons and monsters, but how do I replace the weapon the player starts with?

>> No.3463397

>>3463390
You need to modify the player class to put it into the starting equipment.

>> No.3463404
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3463404

>>3463390
>posting a Punisher picture in a Doom thread
>not using this one

>> No.3463406

>>3463397
Okay, so, step by step, how do I do that within a preexisting weapon mod? Namely, this one:

http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/other-sources-styles-mainmenu-160-29963/741-revolver-ps

Do I just make a new mod and combine them, or do I do it within this mod? What do I do?

>> No.3463428

>>3463406
You'd need to add a new class definition inheriting from DoomPlayer with the line "Player.StartItem <item>" in DECORATE, then make this new class the player class in GAMEINFO. This should help.
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:PlayerPawn

You may also need to add in the 50 bullets as well.

>> No.3463436

>>3461764
this is my hell

>> No.3463439

Is anyone on here even participating in the Vinesauce mapping contest?

>> No.3463442

>>3463439
Why bother? He's letting people who've made maps prior to the contest participate.

>> No.3463446

>>3463442

I thought he clarified that you can't enter maps you made before the contest.

Unless you think the contest should only be first-time mappers, or something.

>> No.3463447

>>3463442
No, he clarified today.

http://vinesauce.com/vinetalk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=118438
>Map must be made for this contest, no prior maps you've made can be submitted.

Should have had it the first time but I guess he thought it was obvious.

>> No.3463450

>>3463446
>>3463447
>I thought he clarified that you can't enter maps you made before the contest.
And how is he going to confirm that? I could have a wad that I've been working on for months that I've never told anyone about, take 3 maps off it and presto.

>> No.3463451 [DELETED] 

>>3463442
See >>3462740

>> No.3463453

>>3463450

Couldn't you say that about any mapping contest?

>> No.3463457

>>3463451
see
>>3463450

>>3463453
For one with barely any rules like Joel's? Of course.

>> No.3463458

>>3463450
Yeah that's a good point.

>>3463453
Then they're all shit, and the prizes offer more incentive to cheat.

>> No.3463472

>>3463439
I guess I'll join just as an excuse to map. I have an idea that could work for DUMP but since it's probably going to die after the third one...

>> No.3463473

>>3463301
>>3463267

Would it be too grating, if I, say, make enemy replacement with x2 pixel density (double resolution) with the old textures in the background?

>> No.3463479
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>>3463404
>I will say this for Frank Castle...

BUT WHAT DID HE SAY

>> No.3463481

>>3462726
>Term please tell me there is a way to work out a map progression check on a spawner without putting an awkward 5 tic delay because the item loads before the OPEN script does.

Considering all of the changes to netcode since then, it's possible. It'd be beyond my current knowledge, though.
Which isn't that high a bar to pass, admittedly.

>Is some way to wait for the map to be fully loaded?

OPEN is when the map first opens, not when it fully loads. ENTER is technically that, since it would activate when the player enters the map, ergo when the map is in a playable state, but then the script would run on a player basis rather than a world basis.

>> No.3463494
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>>3463472
>it's probably going to die after the third one...

I doubt that, but I also expect that once DUMP 3 is finished Term and Yholl and crew will want to take a well-deserved break before 4

>> No.3463505
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3463505

GIVE ME SOME WADS TO PLAY FUCK

>> No.3463507

>>3463505
Checked out Maps of Chaos? Another anon mentioned it and it's quite good.

>> No.3463518
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>>3463473
Yes. The answer isn't make it bigger, the answer is don't have tiny details that necessitate HD sprites. Stylize it. Don't waste your money on HD sprites just to have a plethora of unnecessary details that will stick out like a sore thumb. There's a lot that can be done with a 56px sprite.

Even Doom64 is just 130% wider (comparing shoulders) and 150% taller (130% if you vertically scale the Doom 1/2 zombie 120% so it appears as it would in-game).

>> No.3463528

"Thinking about porting Metroid (Dreadnought) to 3DGE"

??????

>> No.3463532
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>>3463518
So how would you suggest toning these designs down so they're less overly detailed but still translate the original meaning and overall look well?

>> No.3463554
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>>3463528
who uses 3DGE?

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3463556

>tfw finally switching to modern controls instead of arrow keys + ctrl + alt
i am genuinely perplexed why i didn't do this sooner
i still suck though

>> No.3463557

>>3463532
Same thing I said 3 hours ago, but with some additions.

Lose the stripes on the pants, perhaps only have knee pads or single plates of metal for the thighs and knees and shins. Remove the skull codpiece so it's just a cup, but if you made it bigger you could possibly fit eyes and a simple mouth on it. Turn the shoulder spikes into plates, the arm bands into single pieces of metal. Give him a boxier nose instead of a triangle and a boxier jaw. Look at the zombies' trapezius muscles and how you don't see their neck, bulk up the same muscle on the demon and lower the head or give him a thicker rugby neck. Replace the 7 small back spikes with 4 or so larger spikes, perhaps not on the spine but instead on opposite sides of the spine, spread out a bit. Then some basic shoulder blade, pectoral, abdominal anatomy cleanup.

>> No.3463558
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3463558

Erhmmm...

>> No.3463564

>>3463558
Yeah, I was cheating through an Oblige genertaed map and then I found... that wall texture.

Just how? How the fuck do you get such JPEG artifacts on such a small texture?

>> No.3463565

>>3463554

The people who keep posting their Edge projects in the ZDoom forums and nobody else.
By the way, have you made your regular donation to Chronoteeth yet? It really helps him make mods!

>> No.3463569

>>3463557
Doesn't the Imp have shoulder spikes?

In fact, I've seen very spikey variants of the Imp that look great.

>> No.3463574

>>3463564
Does it generate the textures in any way too? Otherwise who knows.

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3463580

>>3463569
Yes, but most are larger and they're all drawn by hand, and not scaled-down photos. You could tell the artist to make the model and sprites without the small spikes and then add them yourself on the renders, otherwise they're going to blur away.

>> No.3463582

>>3463574
Looking through Oblige_Epic_Texture_Set_V620.wad, It was apparently intentional.
It's also the only texture in that wad that has those artifacts. The other recolors are regular.

Guess the creator of Oblige resents the color yellow for some reason.

>> No.3463585

>>3463554
what the hell is going on there

>> No.3463589

What megawads should I play with DoomRPG and RL Arsenal?

>> No.3463590

>>3463585
I THINK Shephard got Samus to sign a helmet for one of his crewmembers?

>> No.3463591

>>3463589

Oblige maps are pretty good in my experience.

>> No.3463593
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3463593

Wads where you play as doggo?

>> No.3463596

>>3463591
Meh. I think that they get really boring after some time.

>> No.3463597

>>3463593
Reelism, sometimes.

>> No.3463603
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3463603

>>3463569
>>3463580
Scaled to imp's height, which is a little bigger than the old sprite.

Scale your drawing down, redraw sections that look wrong, and you'll have a sprite-friendly design.

>> No.3463616
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>>3463593
Wads where you plays as pic related?

>> No.3463626
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>>3463616
Very fast baba running at incredibly hihg speed

>> No.3463629
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>>3463556
>Tries WASD
>Randomly presses the wrong letters when looking away

I... Think I'll keep using my arrow keys.

>> No.3463651
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3463651

>>3463603
Experimented a bit. Tried a few different things.

I don't know if we're quite there yet, but I feel like we're getting close.

>> No.3463657

>>3463651
It's a lot better, just keep at it. Shrinking, refining, making those changes to the larger image, and so on.

>> No.3463658

>>3463390

ACTOR NewDoomGuy:DoomPlayer
{
Player.StartItem "AShotgunForExample"
Player.WeaponSlot 3,"AShotgunForExample"
}


Then you need to make a MAPINFO lump that defines the new playerclass as one that is available, like so:

gameinfo
{
// Other stuff goes here, look at the ZDoom wiki's page for the MAPINFO lump
playerclasses = "NewDoomGuy"
}

>> No.3463664

>>3463658

why the fucking fuck do boards other than /g/ not support codetags, fucking hell

>> No.3463678
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3463678

http://www.mediafire.com/download/re9ii0cqi7ctm4w/akimbomod.pk3

You might have seen this thing if you checked out the last few Doom threads. It's a mod I'm working on, mostly to test the use of overlays in dual-wielded weapons. Now, the dual-wielding is ACS-free, thanks to the addition of the Decorate version of GetPlayerInput.

There's also a new weapon to play around with; a pair of pistols that replace the starter weapon. When enemies are killed, they'll drop green skull gems. Once you collect 50 of them, you can upgrade the pistols. At the moment, only the pistols can be upgraded, so the green skulls only count towards the pistols. Anyways, the pistols get two upgrades each for magazine capacity, reload speed, and rate-of-fire. When the pistols are equipped, you'll see a little green skull above the ammo readout in the bottom right. The numbers next to it indicate some additional info; the bottom number shows how many gems you've picked up, and will display green when you have enough to upgrade, and the top number will display how many upgrades you've acquired. Once you have enough gems, press the 'use inventory' key and some text will pop up, explaining what button you should press to recieve the respective mod. Press 'use inventory' again to dismiss the message and cancel upgrading.

If you're familiar with the damage that Doom's weapons do, you may notice that the pistols do less damage per shot than Doom's standard pistol. This is intentional; otherwise, once the pistols are fully upgraded, you wouldn't have much reason to use the Chaingun. Also, it's to balance out the fact that you get a free refill of ammo when you upgrade the magazine capacity.

As mentioned, this mod uses overlays, as well as many other recent additions to ZDoom such as anonymous functions, so you will need a very recent devbuild to run it.

>> No.3463680

>>3463664

Probably the same reason why some boards don't have spoiler tags: Its usefulness is rather limited outside of the intended boards.

>> No.3463685

>>3463678
>thanks to the addition of the Decorate version of GetPlayerInput.
Well, this is interesting.

>> No.3463687
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>>3463651
>>3463657
Oh shit! I totally forgot I made my own sprite of this guy a while back for practice.

>> No.3463692 [DELETED] 

>>3463678
>you will need a very recent devbuild to run it.
No thanks.

>> No.3463706

>>3463692
I never get what's the issue, it's just downloading one small ass file.

>> No.3463713

>>3463692

Why not? It's not like you have to get rid of your stable official release to use a devbuild.

>>3463685

Yeah, it's pretty cool. Dualwielding, among many, many other things, just got a whole lot simpler.

For example, you could use it with A_JumpIf on a monster to check if the monster's current target(at least if the current target is a player) to see if they're looking at the monster and pressing the fire button, and if so, have the monster jump to a state where it does a dodge.

>> No.3463716
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>>3463687
>>3463657
Well, I scaled them down and back up, and they look surprisingly good.

Spikes on the back might need a bit of work, especially if they're going to be translated into a 3D model, but overall it's looking really good.

>> No.3463720

>>3463706

It seems like some people (or just one guy, I can't really tell) in here are finally getting fed up with all the issues the dev builds are having and are swearing off them and any mods that require them.

I can kinda see where they're coming from, but I think they exaggerate the trouble involved.

>> No.3463728

>>3463713
>For example, you could use it with A_JumpIf on a monster to check if the monster's current target(at least if the current target is a player) to see if they're looking at the monster and pressing the fire button, and if so, have the monster jump to a state where it does a dodge.

I mean you could do that before with ACS giving out items, and then a A_JumpIfInTargetInventory

(monsters that use input reading are disgusting pls don't do it)

>> No.3463753

>>3463720
>I can kinda see where they're coming from, but I think they exaggerate the trouble involved.

This.
If you don't wanna use the dev builds, fine, just don't throw a fit when other people make stuff for it.

It's like complaining when someone's mod doesn't support Zandronum.

>> No.3463767
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3463767

YOU GUYS

http://gamerant.com/duke-nukem-3D-world-tour-leak/

>> No.3463774

>>3463767
cool
gearbox doesnt deserve duke desu
garbage company

>> No.3463775

>>3463767

Yeah, I'm not trusting Gearbox.

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3463784

>>3463767

>> No.3463787
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>>3463767

>they got rid of megaton for this ugly thing

Not that megaton was amazing but it looks tons better than this.

>> No.3463790
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3463790

>>3463767

Well, I guess we now know why Gearbox were trying to fuck TerminiX in the ass.

>> No.3463791
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>>3463767
Look okay to me. OP of another thread on it brought up the lack of sector lighting and that the flame thrower was just a reskin. If they polish it up a bit it could at least be fun. Hopefully they don't shit the bed with it.

Real world locals are my favorite in Duke, so world tour is up my alley anyway...

>> No.3463805

>>3463790

its dickford's vengeance against 3dR and duke community

>they shunned me, so i'll buy the franchise and fuck them

>> No.3463820
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3463820

gearbox's new logo lowkey looks dank but i dunno about the name change

>> No.3463821

>>3462949
>have to enable noclip atleast 3 different times in my 100% secret playthrough

DooM 2 might be the most overrated sequel of all time

>> No.3463834

>>3463821
step before teleporter on map15
teleporter pad on map27
can't think of a third one

>> No.3463840

has someone made a wad thats doom 1 with all the monsters from doom 2 + ssg?
i think it'd be pretty cool to have the best of both dooms in 1 game

>> No.3463848

>>3463821
>DooM 2 might be the most overrated sequel of all time
That'd be Super Metroid.

>> No.3463849

>>3463821

Doom 2 is only good for modders/mappers, everything else doom 1 does better.

>> No.3463856

>>3463840

Nobody seems to be interested in making it, probably something to do with the fact that DOOM I's maps simply weren't made with the DOOM II monsters and the super shotgun in mind.

The closest you'll probably find is PSX DOOM TC, but even then it doesn't place the SSG in DOOM I levels to my recollection.

>> No.3463857

>>3463849
I personally detest E2 and E3 and would gladly take any Doom 2 map over them any day.

>> No.3463869
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>>3463848
>Super Metroid
>Overrated

>> No.3463870

>>3463869
Well yeah, it's an okay-good game treated as one of the best games of all time.

>> No.3463871

>>3463848
the gap from metroid to super metroid is more like the gap between wolfenstein and doom

>> No.3463874

>>3463871
there's a game inbetween.

>> No.3463879

>>3463874
yeah and it was even less technically impressive than its predecessor

>> No.3463881

>>3463874

and no one gives a shit about it, your point?

>> No.3463882

>>3463879
>technically impressive
so?

>> No.3463885

>>3463881
yeah it's not like someone spent years making a remake of it.

>> No.3463892

>>3463885
okay, one guy pitied it and made a better version of it :^)

>> No.3463894

>>3463885

i think it says a lot that somebody felt that the game needed a remake

>> No.3463896

>>3463882
One of the biggest praises of Super Metroid was its fantastic use of the SNES hardware; it still looks good today.

>> No.3463897

>>3463879
It played way better, for one you could actually fucking CROUCH as well as aim diagonally. Powerups that wouldn't be seen for another decade too like the spider ball.

>> No.3463903

>>3463894
Yeah it says that the person in question cared about the game since he even released it for free. You don't remake games you're not interested in and then give it out to people.

>> No.3463904

>>3460582
Um. No it isn't.

Just as you can rip brink you've just gotta know the right tool, someone ripped using that format not that long ago if you can find him on facepunch he'll tell you how.

>> No.3463905

>>3463896
...okay?

>> No.3463906

>>3463857

They may not be as good as E1 but I think they never hit as low as doom 2's levels hit. To each their own though.

>> No.3463907
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3463907

>>3463879


say that at metroid general here on >>>/vr/ and some people there will go apeshit and say that NES and metroid 2 are superior than zero mission, AM2R and Even Prime

>> No.3463908

>>3463848
>>3463870
>>3463879

You're a dumbass.

Also talk about Doom, faggots.

>> No.3463916

>>3463908

can we compromise and talk about metroid dreadnought

>> No.3463920

>>3463857
wow, really? that's pretty extreme

>> No.3463921

>>3463908
>You're a dumbass.
I sure got told.

>> No.3463925
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3463925

what in doom attracts these weirdos?

is it the simplicity in map making?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53320

>> No.3463930
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>>3463916
no

>> No.3463934

>>3463930
get out of here there's no tubes for you

>> No.3463936

>>3463920
It's true, while they have open areas here and there, they're mostly cramped, hell looks weird, both their secret levels are just awful (especially E2M9) and their level design is completely unmemorable no matter how many times I play them. For comparison I have E1 pretty much embedded in my brain. I even remember Plutonia levels more than E2 and E3.

Doom 2's city levels may be dull-colored but I like their level design more.

>> No.3463943
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3463943

>>3463936
>not liking warrens

>> No.3463945

>>3463916


if someone manages to replace term's samus sprites with SM and Fusion SA-X, thus add a Zero Suit mode using D4D, Marathon weapon pack or any weapon that fits metroid, it would be nice

im even trying to rip some hand motions and face hud using XPS/XNA Lara using Other M and Wii U models

>> No.3463956

>>3463943
>copypasting E3M1 BUT WITH A TWEEEST
nah.

>> No.3463957

how was i not aware of this till now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvT1QOuuH7s

>> No.3463958

>>3463945

I guess a Zero Suit mode is nice, but I'm not really terribly interested in the concept. I just prefer Samus in her Power Suit. Unless it's Smash. I'm generally not very critical of Sakurai's decisions, but man is he awful at balancing and there's few better examples than Samus.

>> No.3463963

>>3463925
Holy shit it's the same guy who made hitlerkk.wad

>> No.3463965

>>3463945
>and Wii U models
you mean from Smash Bros?

>> No.3463968
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3463968

>>3463925
>3,000 monsters in a map
>in zdoom, which adds significant overhead to monster processing

>> No.3463969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbs6Om9jyI

>> No.3463973

>>3463965

what other wii u game has samus in it

>> No.3463976

>>3463973
nintendoland

>> No.3463981
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3463981

>>3463969
fuck me, he's a wizard

>> No.3463984

>>3463976

mii doom when

>> No.3463986

>>3463973
does Prime Trilogy count?

>> No.3463987
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3463987

>>3463965
>>3463958

its a pain in the ass to make that, im almost ditching this shit to start using SFM

facial anims are easy to do

>> No.3463992

>>3463986

Might as well call all virtual console games "wii u" if you're going that route.

>> No.3463994

>>3463992
Well you could rip the models from the wii u version, I don't know why you would but, it's there.

>> No.3463997

>>3463934
We need more doom maps with tubes

>> No.3464013

Photoshop's default hard brush is really soft, if you're using it then sharpen the final image a little. 1px or 0.5px, Unsharp or Smart Sharpen.

Maybe GIMP could also use it.

Gives things a finer edge.

>> No.3464014

>>3463969
you can see how he does it, but like, how does he *know* it

god damn this stuff is fascinating, even though I have no idea how to use any of it

>> No.3464028

>>3463874
that game is the doom 2 equivalent, but its out of chronological order so I didn't mention it

>> No.3464065

>>3464028
>the game inbetween Metroid (Wolf 3d) and Super Metroid (Doom) is the Doom 2 equivalent
what.

>> No.3464084
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3464084

>play hideous destructor
>hear archvile laugh at random interval
>every single fucker I disemboweled is magically back on their feet
>every
>single
>one
>tl;dr bleed to death

>reload game
>no laughter
wow, it almost actually feels like the game itself is actively joining the tryhard party too.

>> No.3464085
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3464085

>>3464028

>> No.3464102

>>3463481
>OPEN is when the map first opens, not when it fully loads. ENTER is technically that, since it would activate when the player enters the map, ergo when the map is in a playable state, but then the script would run on a player basis rather than a world basis.
Well if the spawner was told to wait for *any* ENTER script before it checked the value the OPEN script altered, I don't think it would really be an issue. The question is if ENTER scripts actually work as you said in singleplayer, I'll have to try it out.

>> No.3464139
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>> No.3464145

>>3464139
>tfw jpcp was the best wad you've ever played
granted i probably havent played as much as most people here but still

>> No.3464146

>>3464139
The world could use more Doomguys

>> No.3464159
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3464159

Mmmmm... don't put Doom into the Atari palette.

>> No.3464194

how would I go about opening the hideous destructor pk7 in SLADE?

I got it to open simply by renaming the extension to zip but I don't feel like fiddling about with RAR

>> No.3464201

>>3464194

unzip it

put the contents in a new zip archive

change the extension to .pk3

boom you're done

>> No.3464202

>>3464194
nvm, sorted it out

turns out you don't open the file itself, just the zip. there are like four wad files inside, mostly graphics and sprites. p cool.

>> No.3464208

>>3464145
JPCP was terrifyingly good and makes my metaphorical dick shrink when I try my own hand at mapping.
There's no way I'll ever be able to match Toooooasty.

>> No.3464209
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3464209

>>3464202
no wait fuck
>>3464201
this is the proper way to do it

have a screenshot of the inside of a rocket

>> No.3464312
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3464312

Why doesn't Freedoom just use the fucking DTWID maps instead of not having any quality control and expecting something decent to eventually come of it

>> No.3464317

>>3464312

There might be permission issues with using the DTWID maps? I mean, it was a group project wasn't it?

>> No.3464319

why hasn't doom been made public domain yet

>> No.3464321

well, fuck XPS

i'll download SFM and find an animation pack

>>3464319
because it belongs to zenimax

>> No.3464323

>>3464319

blame disney

>> No.3464324

>>3464319
Its creators are still alive and it's only been 23 years.

>> No.3464331

>>3464319
It's still profitable.

>> No.3464337

>>3464312

There's literally no good reason for Freedoom to exist in the first place.

>> No.3464341
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3464341

i have a bunch of animations here, everytime i export the md3 and load it into doom it only shows the animation i loaded up

the animations should all be there, but how the fuck do i get doom to pull up the rest of the animations in the md3? i tried to play like a thousands frames but after the first animations frame time is done it goes blank

>> No.3464347

>>3464337

Theoretically, it could serve as an source of free resources like textures and sprites for DOOM-styled games, and as an IWAD for any hypothetical mods turned into full games.

In practice though, I don't think either of those are likely to happen.

>> No.3464360

>>3464323
i think disney is a pile of shit from the culture they make already anyways.

>>3464324
why release the source code and not make it public domain

what is the possible reasoning behind it, other than the stupidly obvious one that the lads at id were being jews and still wanted to make some pretty sheckels

>>3464331
im sure it is on paper, but in reality nobody really buys doom or doom 2 anymore, right? they know how easy it is to find the full wads online for free, right?

>> No.3464363

>>3464360

>they know how easy it is to find the full wads online for free, right?

I didn't know, and I bought them.

To be fair, I was like 13 at the time. But on the other hand, I bought the BFG Edition years later and I don't think the same excuse works there.

>> No.3464364

>Triggering you was the least of my agenda, as it was not my motive to pretend that you did not credit me. Not sorry for your reaction, however.

of course this is the person that wants to port dreadnought to 3DGE

>> No.3464371

>>3463616
Who dun it
Little known fact, you can bunny hop in WDI, just hold m1 and jump, the stabs boost you so you can get the fuck away of crowds.

>> No.3464373

>>3464364
>port dreadnought to 3DGE

Good fucking luck.

>> No.3464375
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3464375

Sorry to ask this here but does anyone have a high res shot/vector of the helmet icon from d44m? Tried looking the game files using doom resource explorer but couldnt find it there

>> No.3464382

>>3463481
>>3464102
Tried it out with an Inventory item since I'm unsure how to make DECORATE check global variables, but it worked, doesn't even matter if the ENTER script is above the OPEN script in the acs code! You just need to make it a global boolean instead of inventory based.
Basically I did this:

Script "MapLoad" ENTER
{
GiveInventory("MapLoaded", 1);
}

Script "MapUnload" UNLOADING
{
TakeInventory("MapLoaded", 1);
}

>> No.3464386

>>3464382
cool
so how does it work online

>> No.3464391

>>3464386
the same if you used a global variable instead of inventory as i said

>> No.3464394

>>3464364
That exchange was embarrassing.

>I was never credited for my map for something that I didn't finish. PS can I use Dreadnought as a base for my mod?
>Uh yeah dude you were credited. Here's a picture.
>I didn't play the mod so I didn't know

>> No.3464396

>>3464364
just checked the dreadnought topic, assuming this was just exaggeration

holy shit he actually said this

>> No.3464405

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53352&sid=539bd18aacfd341a4ad5a0546273c19a

>making a mod for 3DGE
>in this fucking day and age
But its a chronoteeth mod so its not even worth playing let alone getting mad about

>> No.3464410

>>3464405
CT mods are good to rip graphics from.

That's about it.

>> No.3464412

>>3463956
I thought it was a neat twist, personally. First time playing through you think "wtf, why is this the same map, weird" and then suddenly everything changes.

Was a neat TWEEEST in the 90's, and just plain fun.

>> No.3464413

>>3464412
it's also lazy as hell.

>> No.3464414
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>>3464405
Engine Looks Great

>> No.3464419
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>>3464414
No

>> No.3464421

>>3464414

this reminds me of that one image in underhalls where the guy's playing with brutal doom, hd sprites and textures, filters and a bloom shader

>> No.3464423
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3464423

>>3464410
And even then...

>> No.3464424

>>3463957

because ignorance is truly bliss

>> No.3464428

>>3464413
Considering nothing like doom had been made before doom I don't think any of it was lazy. Rushed, at best.

>> No.3464429

>>3464414
>looks like it has an entire jar a vaseline smeared on the screen
>great
who is this, I swear I've seen this kind of posting before

>> No.3464431

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=53319

Graf did something beneficial to the user for once. Does anyone else feel colder?

>> No.3464432

>>3464405

>took the Shadow Warrior Quad Shotgun
>and made it ugly

And that's before you slap on that awful hq4x or what-fucking-ever filtering that looks like somebody broke out the family size jar of Vaseline.

>> No.3464434

>>3464429
I would love to taste one of your steaks, but I just had a delicious salad from room service.

>> No.3464441

>>3464431

At least he pulled his head out of his ass and stopped pretending that there weren't valid reasons for leaving some actors undefined in present lumps; case in point, DRPG-DRLA compat. It isn't just a case of 0.L tier fuckup modders not checking their shit.

>> No.3464451
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i just realised that even though i have been playing Doom for literally decades, i have never paid for it

or Quake, for that matter

>> No.3464452

>>3464451
Paying for it now won't do any good cause you're just giving money to Zenimax to fund the next Elder Scrolls game.

>> No.3464454

>>3464451
I paid for it exactly twice. On Xbox

>> No.3464458

>>3464451
I bought it back when it meant something.

Feels Good

>> No.3464460
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>>3464452
if i sent money directly to one of the creators should i send it to john or john?

>> No.3464461

if doom is so great how come they felt the need to remake it?

checkmate, cacofags.

heh.

>> No.3464462

>>3464460

send it to Carmack or Carmack

>> No.3464464

>>3464460
I think Romero would appreciate it more.

>> No.3464465

>>3464405
>making a mod for 3DGE
>in this fucking day and age
Get GZDoom to not have godawful model support, then.

>> No.3464467
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>>3464460

didn't some kid try to give john carmack $25 for pirating doom back in the day or something

>> No.3464470

>>3464461

They... didn't remake it though?

>> No.3464473

>>3464460
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/doom-ii_/credits all these people

>>3464465
>3dge is filtering out all the mods with 3d models
excellent

>> No.3464474

>>3464470
then what's the new doom?

checkmate AGAIN!

>> No.3464480

>>3464474

While it does try to be a DOOM "for the new generation" if you will, I don't recall Bethesda or id ever referring to it as a remake, and it's more like a sequel if you want to get into the story.

>> No.3464481

>>3464470

what's Brutal Doom then?

:^)

>> No.3464483

>>3464480
I thought it was a reboot / "soft-reboot".

Sequels don't replace the name.

>> No.3464484
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>D44M cites Brutal Doom and the Doom comic as inspirations
but why though

both of those things are objectively terrible

>> No.3464487

>>3464474

the old dooms happened, according to nudoom.

Doomguy fucked hell's shit up; that's why you're shackled to a stone table in the intro.

>> No.3464489

>>3464473
ok i'll mail them all a dollar, except for the french and the krauts

unless they're dead

how many of these people are dead

>> No.3464491

>>3464484
but they're "popular with the doom crowd"

that's not a quote but scare quotes

>> No.3464493

>>3464484
That's what has gotten the public's attention is recent years.

>> No.3464494

>>3464484

blame casual fans loving both

i actually wouldn't be surprised if nearly all of the developers' exposure to the franchise was through that mod and the comic

>> No.3464495

>>3464484
at least the comic is so terrible that it became amazing

>> No.3464496

>>3464483
>Sequels don't replace the name.
This one does.

Doom 3 had a number yet it was a reboot.

>> No.3464497

>>3464484
>Brutal Doom
[citation needed]

>> No.3464501

>>3464497
are you serious.

>> No.3464504

>>3464497

Well, it's never outright cited but it's kinda obvious in the ultra-violent nature and the Glory Kill system.

>> No.3464508

>>3464504
>Well, it's never outright cited
Okay then.

>> No.3464509

>>3464504
I thought it was in an interview.

>> No.3464513

>>3464495
>>3464495
>so terrible that it became amazing

Eh.

2016, I guess.

>> No.3464515

>>3464509

Must've missed it, then.

>> No.3464523

>>3464515

IIRC they specifically mentioned Project Brutality talking to fans at the E3 multiplayer booth and mentioned Brutal Doom in a couple interviews.

Can't be assed to find which specific ones, but yeah id took cues from BD.

>> No.3464525

>>3464523
>Can't be assed to find which specific ones
hmmmmm

>> No.3464526

>>3464501
you're an idiot.

>> No.3464529

I heard that Doom 4 took inspiration from Guncaster. It's pretty obvious if you look at the upgrade system.

I asked them at the E3 booth, so yeah. Confirmed.

>> No.3464534

I heard Doom 4 is actually a Metroid spiritual sequel

>> No.3464536

>>3464534

then where is my nintendo v. zenimax lawsuit

>> No.3464538

>Doom 5
>DRLA + DRPG inspired string of huge slaughtermaps
be truthful

would you?

>> No.3464539

>>3464538
Sounds like it'd be a bad Doom game, but a fun game, so yes.

>> No.3464540

>>3464536
zenimax asked nicely.

>> No.3464543

>>3464504
>in the ultra-violent nature
which the comic totally didn't have

and before you go 'b-but brutal doom is also inspired by it!!' the devs cited multiple Doom related stuff over the course of the game's development, such as Doom 64's music serving as inspiration for the map design, Dead Space and Doom 1-3 for anything visuals related, and shit like Bayonetta and Metroid for combat style

they also disclosed some footage of what was then the prototype for the game in a Q&A last week which dated from 2008 or so, and a very rough draft of what was then the glory kill system was showcased as well

checkmate atheists

>> No.3464547

>>3464497
>>3464508
>>3464515
>>3464525
>>3464540

Hi Linguica

How's it going?

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>>3464540

>Or you you give us the blessing, or our lawyers will rape reggie and NoA, and rip the metroid rights of your dead corpses.

>> No.3464550

>>3464538
When it goes on sale for less than 50% of the normal price. Unless it has a good multiplayer mode and mod tools.

>> No.3464551

>>3464547

Going well, Memfis, thanks for asking.

>> No.3464553

>>3464547
what

>> No.3464556

>>3464547

man i wish i was linguica, then i could do crazy shit like hexediting maps to see what weird stuff i can make the engine do

>> No.3464558

>>3464551
Good to hear, ribbiks

>> No.3464560

>>3464538
that sounds like shit, so no

>> No.3464563

>>3464538
That sounds godawful.

>> No.3464567
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>Doom 5 is announced
>Creative Director and Lead Developer is named as Sarge Mark

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>>3464550
>there are still people unironically asking for mod tools for a modern Doom game as if an updated version of GZDoomBuilder it were

>> No.3464572

>>3464568
>as if an updated version of GZDoomBuilder it were
Has anyone even gone so far as to what they look like?

>> No.3464574

>>3464568

I think people want mod tools more out of spirit, than for actually using them.

>>3464572

I think what he meant was "as if it (the map tool) were an updated version of GZDoomBuilder."

>> No.3464580

>>3464568
I want Probuilder.

>> No.3464581

guys i had an idea for a wad

what if it was alien isolation

but in doom

>> No.3464583

>>3464581
pretty sure theres a pwad for that

>> No.3464587 [DELETED] 

>>3464572
>can't even make out a simple slip in a sentence
you'd go about making some great maps with astounding ease, I can tell already

>> No.3464591 [DELETED] 

>>3464587
>gets so flustered over a simple joke
Damn bro. ;)

>> No.3464594 [DELETED] 

>>3464591
your joke sucked shit.

>> No.3464601 [DELETED] 

>>3464594
Nah, I got a laugh and you seem flustered as shit, so I'm happy.

>> No.3464602 [DELETED] 

>>3464543
care to spoonfeed a lil' retard and lay some source on the footage?

>>3464591
just think of all the maps you could be making instead of moving goalposts.

>> No.3464603 [DELETED] 

>>3464594

Calm tf down, dude.

>> No.3464604 [DELETED] 

>>3464602
>instead of moving goalposts.
I don't think that means what you think it does, anon.

>> No.3464607 [DELETED] 

>>3464602
>just think of all the maps you could be making instead of moving goalposts.
There was nothing about moving goalposts there, anon.
That's not what that means.

How about y'all lighten the fuck up and take a little bants.

>> No.3464610 [DELETED] 

>>3464603
>>3464601
you sure having two browsers open at the same time don't stack up your toaster

>> No.3464612 [DELETED] 

>>3464610
>you sure having two browsers open at the same time

What the hell does two browsers have to do with anything.
Why are you so upset.

>> No.3464614 [DELETED] 

>>3464610
are you one of those retards that thinks people can bypass the post time limit with a second browser

>> No.3464615 [DELETED] 

>>3464610
That's not how 4chan works, anon.

>> No.3464616 [DELETED] 

>>3464610
>two browsers open
That isn't how posting works.

>> No.3464619 [DELETED] 

this kind of stuff always happens at late night while the janitors sleep.

>> No.3464620 [DELETED] 

>>3464610

why would you open a second browser when tabs exist

>> No.3464627

>>3464558
Shut up, Term

>> No.3464629 [DELETED] 

>>3464619
They literally only do their jobs if there's a report at all and their response time and actions taken vary heavily if they even feel like doing their jobs at all unless it's regular fucktards like barneyfag, DKG, hambone or catfucker.

>> No.3464630 [DELETED] 

>>3464629
Meant to say nambona. Fucking autocorrect

>> No.3464631 [DELETED] 

>>3464629

>catfucker

D-Do I want to know how he got that name?

>> No.3464635

>>3464627
Don't be a boner, Kegan.

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>it's an 'a handful of /doom/ regulars collectively shit the bed' episode

>> No.3464653

>>3464635

That's pretty rude, dew.

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>>3464568
shitposts aside, I just can't come to grips with how people could possibly expect proper flexibility and friendliness from a modern idtech engine mod tool.

Doom 3's was pathetically unintuitive and time consuming to get ahold of, rage's was downright godawful, heck even quake's engine requires patience to get so much as a medpack to work. To let the presence of mod tools single-handedly make out your choice on whether to buy a doom game or not in this day and age is improperly naive. plus it's not as though the campaign wasn't fun enough to guarantee multiple runs as is

>> No.3464673

>>3464653

That's objectively wrong, Tarnsman.

>> No.3464676

>>3464668
I don't think "it's been done badly" is a convincing argument against having mod tools.

>> No.3464678

why are Joe-Ilya and Eric samefagging the thread?

if only Linguica was here.

>> No.3464679

>>3464673
nice try yholl

>> No.3464684

On one hand I want to guggest the Vinesauce mpping contest to extend the deadline so it isn't a speedmapping one. Like, Halloween is soon, and DOOM certainly has horror elements to it, so why not put the deadline one week before it?

On the other hand I really do not not want to create yet another account on a website.

>> No.3464687

>>3464684

jackolantern-headed revenants when

>> No.3464691

>>3464676
the point of my post wasn't to ultimately neglect mod tools, it had more to do with the stand certain people take on the game for not having them released in the first place, and it becoming such a super important vital thing to have otherwise they won't buy it.

especially seeing as how most of the time they either make no mention of the campaign's quality or downright deem the entire thing as bad so it makes no sense at all.

>> No.3464697

>>3464691
Personally, I don't actually hinge a buy based upon mod tools, I got and enjoyed the game even with how utterly shit Snapmap is.
But modding is part of the official Doom ~*~experience~*~. Even if Doom 3's tools were awful, we still got a handful of excellent mods out of it.

Leaving modding out of Doom is like leaving modding out of Neverwinter.

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Good night /doom/

>> No.3464703

>>3464702
Night anon.

>> No.3464710

>>3464702
Don't let the Spider Masterminds bite!

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>>3464702
sleep tight you pile of guts

>> No.3464714

>>3464697
snapmap isn't the ultimate, be-all end-all as far as map making goes (shit, I even recall Marty Stratton himself casually commenting on how he basically could tell no fucking body would even think about coming anything near it from a mapping perspective) but I really encourage you to try and brainstorm some stuff up with the static hell props and the player blocking volumes. or give some maps featuring those a try if you haven't so you get an idea of the kind of stuff that can be done with them. It's no Trenchbroom but it's a pleasant surprise.

Regarding Doom 3, I enjoyed it for what it was worth, poorly executed horror and terribad shotgun and all, and what little taste we got from hell in it I more than made up for with usermade stuff. I still believe Doom 3's base gameplay feels weird when translated to a more fast paced sorta thing somehow though but I can't quite put my finger on it.

>>3464702
sleep well, anon. here's to hoping you don't dream of the starting elevator room in going down, that'd be nasty.

>> No.3464720

How much time did Term give to contribute to DUMP? 1 month, wasn't it?

>> No.3464721

>>3464720
which one

>> No.3464725

>>3464721
I think there were three, right? I tried finding their announcement threads, but I only ever stumble upon their release announcements.

Do you know the timeframe for all three?

>> No.3464727

>>3464725
>>3464721

To clarify, I'm not asking to make a map for it, just to know what the timelimit was.

>> No.3464731

>>3464720
>>3464725

DUMP 1 was a couple hours. DUMP 2 was a week. DUMP 3 was about half a month.

>> No.3464736

>>3464731
Was there a reason why it kept extending?

I'm mainly just looking for arguments as to why extending the Vinesauce contest deadline to more than 11 days might be a good idea.

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>>3464727
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=52276

see for yourself

daily reminder that DUMP 3 isn't actuallly finished

but please don't finish it before i replace my weapon sounds

>> No.3464739

>>3464405

Don't forget he's accepting donations, make sure to support him to keep pumping out quality content. :)

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>>3464713

>> No.3464748

>>3464736

Mostly because each time I'd found that it wasn't a comfortable span of time to actually do things. With a couple hours, everyone was in full panic mode, and even with a week a lot of people were wrestling with school/home life.

A month was a mistake, though.
If I do DUMP 4, I'm reeling it way the fuck back.

>> No.3464751

>>3464748
Like what, two weeks?

>> No.3464761

>>3464751

A very strict two weeks may be good, yes.

>> No.3464762

>>3464714
here's some stuff I thought looked neat, just for kicks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hp9gMBkJKk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gv6qdXg4KC4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LVk92OIqQg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d3rxS8wW1Xs

>> No.3464763

>>3464745
Oh fuck I remember this

>> No.3464771

>>3464713
too cute

>> No.3464793

>>3464763
Fuggin Witchaven
Lemme just check the date on this here...
March 24th 2013

>> No.3464819

This has been bugging me for years.

Somewhere between Doom v1.666 and v1.9, the music track Hiding the Secrets (E1M9) was altered, causing the beat to drop earlier than intended. Why? Is there a fix to this?

>> No.3464826

>>3464819

>Is there a fix to this?

Couldn't be that hard to fix. Downgrade an IWAD, pull out the old song with SLADE or something, make a PWAD with the old one and boom.

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>>3463505
>filename

>> No.3464918

>>3464917

i don't get it

>> No.3464927

>>3464918

I'm not sure, but I think she's basically... WASDing her head.

>> No.3464932

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9qSuQapFY

>> No.3464956

>>3464932
My head is AEUHHHHH?

>> No.3464960

>>3464918
In doom if you push ASD in that fashion,
>adsadasdadsasdads
Doomguy makes a similar motion, like in the gif.

>> No.3464976

>>3464960
Wouldn't it be more:
>adsasdsasdsads

>> No.3465027
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3465027

>don't normally get motion sickness from games
>try to play Duke 3D
>fishbowl effect from the fake 3D and the required mouselooking is making me feel really sick

guess I'm not playing Douk then

>> No.3465037

>>3464065
>its out of chronological order so I didn't mention it
thats why the analogy doesn't work

>> No.3465039

>>3464581
just play alien: colonial marines

Even the Alien: TC is pretty isolation-esque. not even any enemies on the first map

>> No.3465052

>>3465027
Are you using EDuke32?

>> No.3465064

>>3460959
It's super late, but you can delete some of the assets. I have my own modified version with reduced screen borders and fewer annoying sounds, if anyone is still interested.

>> No.3465065

>>3465052
Yeah. I managed to solve that problem, but now I'm encountering a new one.

Every time I finish Hollywood Holocaust, it takes me to the results screen and then just drops me back in to Hollywood Holocaust with the equipment I finished the level with. I can't proceed.

I just wanna play douk.

>> No.3465072

>>3465065
That is very strange. Never heard of that happening before.
Maybe your Duke 3D files are corrupted? I think there's a set of all the Duke 3D files somewhere in the pastebins that I use and it runs fine.

>> No.3465078

>>3465072
Dunno, must have been. I grabbed the "ready to play" version of Duke from the pastebin just now and it worked with no troubles.

Serves me right for trying to do things the legal way.

>> No.3465109

>>3464691
People have a right to consider good mod tools an important feature due to how Doom has had such a strong mod community for more than 2 decades. Hell mod tools could actually make the game fun for them.

>> No.3465114

>>3464976
Actually, yes

>> No.3465116

>>3465037
then it was silly to make it in the first place considering Doom is Wolf 3D's successor whereas that's not the case with Super regarding the first one, especially since 2 added a bunch of key features that would be in Super as well as its story being vital to the latter.

>> No.3465131

NEW THREAD
>>3465129
>>3465129
>>3465129

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>>3464635

>> No.3465474

>>3464084
You're meant to use the chainsaw or fists to gib the corpses so they don't resurrect,I think.

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>>3463767
>they're remaking some parts of dook forever in dook 3D

HAIL TO THE KANG BBY

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