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345519 No.345519 [Reply] [Original]

doom 64 was my favorite of the franchise and IMO the best of the series, anyone else agree?

>> No.346202

I liked it. It wasnt a port but an original campaign and the weapons had a better design. My only problem was that some of the levels were a little too dark.

>> No.346226

>>346202
>a little too dark
>a little
>little

its was doom 3 before doom 3

>> No.346261

Get out of my head OP. I downloaded Doom 64 and played it for the first time last night. I was pleasantly surprised. I've been playing it ever since.

Kinda wish I had tried it earlier, because it's a legit Doom experience. Also, I'll echo the complaint about it being too dark. Gotta go into the options and turn the brightness all the way up.

>> No.346270

>>345519
The levels felt too cramped and small and the walking speed felt poor compared to the originals. Other than that, it was a pretty cool experience.

>> No.346286

It's legit, and the N64 puts out some damn good looking enemy and weapon sprites. But I don't feel its as solid as the original.

>> No.346593

>>346202
have u tried the PC port?
http://doom64ex.wordpress.com/

>> No.346869

The level designs range from really good to needlessly confusing, but the aesthetics and style are definitely the best DOOM has ever been. Hell is a much richer setting than in the previous games and DOOM has never felt any more haunting. Aubrey Hodges sound design is marvelous, and DOOM 64 manages to have a terrifying atmosphere despite its simplicity.

I'd say this is the only shooter on the n64 that holds up. The PC ports are even better. This is my personal favorite DOOM game and is easily a must play for any true doom murderhead.

>> No.347147

funny, waiting on my copy I ordered from ebay. good on you op, can't wait. once i beat it, then I might look into the total conversion for pc, since it has more levels.

>> No.347193

>>347147
It's not a TC anon, it's basically a direct port, you even use the Doom 64 rom so it can extract game data before running.

It's also damn good, and very faithful.

>> No.347856

>>347193
Nice, I'll definitely get around to playing it once I beat the 64 version first.

>> No.347905

I disagree. DOOM II was the best in the series imho, but I'll tell you this much: DOOM 64 was what DOOM 3 should have been. Anyway, enjoy your good taste, sir.

>> No.347938
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347938

h-h-hey guys, can I come out to rip and tear?

>> No.347957

I disagree. It had a nice atmosphere and music but the game had secrets that were both way too generous and easy to find. By the third level I had a rocket launcher, chaingun, chainsaw, super shotgun, 200 health, and the ammo backpack with nearly maxed out ammo for most of the guns. Was playing on the difficulty before the highest if that matters into the secrets at all.

>> No.347991

>>347938
No, no you cannot. You are blocky and slow, even if your music is good.

I vastly prefer the 32X port of Doom, even with its missing content and shitty music, because it runs so much smoother than the SNES version, and is still fun to play

>> No.348040

>>347991
Honestly the 32X port was not that bad. All the ports at the time had missing content so it's not like you can shit on the 32X exclusively for that. It seems like people target only the music when talking about it. Granted once the PS1 port came out the 32X one was pretty much useless but it is still no where near as bad as people make it out to be. If anything people should be shitting all over the Saturn port. That one is nearly unplayable.

>> No.348083

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IE1NmyrbWA

>> No.348120

>If anything people should be shitting all over the Saturn port. That one is nearly unplayable.

How so? never played it, just curious.

>> No.348148

>>348120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg

It is just the PS1 Doom but with a really slow choppy frame rate. It is really inexcusable too because the Saturn handled games like Quake and Hexen perfectly fine.

>> No.348162

>>348040
The 32X port plays great, looks good, and runs fast. Really, in 1994, what more could you expect from a home console? The Jaguar port was great, but very few people had Jaguars. Granted, not a ton had 32Xs, but it was still a good port.

I still find it fun to play even today.

>> No.348172

>>348148
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg

Reminds me of the borderline unplayable port of Duke Nukem 3D on the Saturn. How they messed that up so badly I'll never understand.

>> No.348236

>>348148
>Meanwhile the N64 doom runs like the original

>> No.348245

>>348236
Well, sorta. It's a different game entirely. An incredible game, mind you, but still, there was no direct port of Doom for N64.

>> No.348259

>>345519
Fuck no.
But it was an interest and good entry into the series taking it's own spin. The rest of the time were fairly mediocre ports.

>> No.348285

>>348245
you have a WAD that runs on the original doom thats just as good as any port. Doom64 absolution i think its called its been out for like over 10 years now

>> No.348308

>>347991
lol and SNES doom only has enemies that face you

>> No.348310

>>348285
I think there was misunderstading. I said that Doom 64 runs as smoothly as the original, while being a wholly different game.

>> No.349542

>>348285
doom 64 EX is the improved version of that

>> No.349613

>>347938
I remember playing this as a kid and loving it. Needless to say I was surprised that it's pretty much one of the worst ports.

>> No.349620

>>349613
good music though, only redeeming factor. same with the 3do port

>> No.349691

>>348148
Quake was unplayable garbage on Saturn, are you serious? perfectly fine my ass

>> No.349730

>>347938
That's one thing Doom 64 lacked...the red cartridge.

My dad was a huge Doom fan (so was/am I, to be fair) and I remember preordering it with him at Electronics Boutique. We had it for SNES and the computer but damn did we love Doom. Doom 64 was really well done for a console version. Hours and hours of fun.

>> No.349761

>>349542
Yes, EX is the direct port, Absolution is the irrelevant remake.

>> No.349795

>>349761
so which one is better then?

>> No.349941

will doom 64 EX work on 64 bit windows 7?

>> No.349947

>>349795
EX, because it's a direct port with the expected enhancements a PC version would have. It's more recent, better programmed, doesn't come in tow with the not-too good community additions the absolution had thrown in (especially the monsters added), and EX is still being worked on.

>> No.349996

>>349941
anyone?

>> No.350079
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350079

>>349996
yep, works just fine. was just playing it.

are you ready, /vr/?

>> No.350140

>>350079
why does the guy say it only works for 32 bit systems?

>> No.350143

>>347938
A mediocre port, but a technical miracle on the SNES.

>> No.350151

>>348285
Absolution TC is for niggers, use Doom64 EX.

>> No.350159

>>350140
I don't know, almost every single program made for 32 bit Windows works for 64 bit Windows.

>> No.350191
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350191

>>350140
I don't know, but I'm running win7 64.

I need to update to the latest version.

>> No.350240

>>350191
so tell me about the EX version, what is different, graphics improvements?

>> No.350249
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350249

>>345519
Absolutely agree. I remember getting this for my birthday when I was 12. It was like I had seen the face of god.

>> No.350263

>>350240
It's a 1:1 port of the N64 game, with the expected PC centric improvements. and a few small additions like directional damage indicators (because there was no face to indicate damage direction in d64). I believe it runs on a version of the zdoom engine, modified to support d64 stuff like floors over floors.

http://doom64ex.wordpress.com/

He's also working on a proper turok port of the n64 game. Which if you don't know, the PC port was rather shitty. He aims to support stuff like coop, multiplayer, and modding with his latest project, TurokEX.

>> No.350267

>>350240
It's closer to the original N64 version, you can play it as the N64 version with a gamepad, or with a Keyboard and Mouse like Classic Doom, it also adds features like Widescreen support, uncapped framerate, optional freelook and jumping, and a multiplayer feature (i haven't tried that one out).

The guy who made the port even created a special version of Doom Builder to make custom levels for Doom64 EX, there are some levels for it uploaded on the /idgames archive if you are interested.

>> No.350279

>>350263
i dont know what any of that stuff means lol

>> No.350274

>>350263
>I believe it runs on a version of the zdoom engine, modified to support d64 stuff like floors over floors.

No, it uses a custom engine called Kex Engine, which it was based on an old Doom port called Doom3D (Doom with Direct3D features), but the code has been re-writen to a degree that is just it's own thing.

He even has plans to port it to the Nintendo DS (there is a video of it somewhere).

>> No.350292

>>350267
u could not jump in the original version?

>> No.350295

>>348148
I always get depressed when I see ports like this

>> No.350297

>>346869
>The level designs range from really good to needlessly confusing, but the aesthetics and style are definitely the best DOOM has ever been.
If you discount fan-made maps that is. Nothing beats Unloved.wad in the aesthetics department.

>> No.350307

>>349691
And i still don't know why they didn't made a PS1 version of Quake 1.

>> No.350339

How is Doom64EX better/different than Absolution?

>> No.350348

>>350339
See>>350267
>>350263
>>350274

>> No.350361

I disagree, it lacked the speed I desire from a Doom game.

>> No.350452

One thing I like about Doom 64 is that the knights/barons were redesigned by someone who has actually knows what goat legs look like (i.e., two joints instead of one).

>> No.351040

>>345519
gtfo, doom2 was so much better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K62uWgB2HDE&list=PLK0SqkN6eubLUXxZi5nYonLceuTCVsNyy

>> No.351050

>>350151
I havent played that shit in 10 years anyway shows what I know haha

>> No.351596

>>347957
> Was playing on the difficulty before the highest

Fucking weak. Well done for ruining your experience.

>> No.351663

>>351040
>brutal

That's a mod you dolt.

>> No.351708

It was the most scary out of all the Dooms

>> No.351724
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>>351040
>that vid

Holy crap are you serious?

>> No.351798

>>345519
No.
But it was quite good.

>> No.351803

>>351773
>It plays just as smooth as a PC version I guess

Have you lost your mind? I skipped into the video and the first thing I saw was the game moving at like 4 fps.

>> No.351809

>>345519
It was more Quake than Doom.
But Doom 64 is still:
too easy.
have horrible sprites.
soundtrack just isn't as good as Doom or Quake.
Don't get me wrong, the game is really fun, but it's just not perfection such as Doom 2 or Quake.

>> No.353589

>>351809
I disagree with every one of your points.

>> No.353630

>>351809
>>353589
I however agree with everything he said.

>> No.353751

>>350307
Yeah, odd considering PS1 got a decent version of Quake 2, much better than the N64 version.

>> No.355146

why was there a baby crying at the end of the doom 64 intro?

>> No.355363

>>353630
Fair enough but:

Music is ambient / creepy. Very enjoyable to listen to. I'll always appreciate the original doom soundtrack.

Difficulty? I didn't find the game to be very hard but far from 'easy'.

Horrible sprites I disagree with, along with the music that's what sets doom 64 apart from the pc counterpart. I don't see how the sprites are horrible at all.

>> No.355390

There's a fanmade PC port that's pretty fucking cool. I've been playing that, mainly.

>> No.355768

I tried it out for a little bit and the levels do remind me of Quake. Lots of narrow corridors and just slightly strafing from side to side in those corridors. Also makes it easy to mow down a ton of guys at once with the super shotgun.

Though the Lost Souls are on steroids.

>> No.355819

Started playing last night because of you guys. Looking like a blast.

>nightmare imps = what regular imps should have been
>all projectiles are faster