New Duke Nukem 3D add-on

[NESfag No.3453748]

I can't believe this shit.

So apparently Gearbox's new version of Duke Nukem 3D will be out in a week. It will include a "new episode".

http://dukenukem.com/

[NESfag No.3453751]

>>3453748
That first screenshot is definitely the worst, everything is just so wrong about it, but even then everything here screams "shitty mid 90's mod".

[NESfag No.3453752]

There is no art direction whatsoever, it's like those shitty fan mods that take textures from many different games and put them together; all with badly done weapon reskins and alt-palette "new enemies".

[NESfag No.3453754]

But the worst part? Their "dynamic lights", which they ripped off from EDuke32 but re-built from the ground up to avoid paying royalities, just like their 3D renderer.

[Anonymous No.3453758]

>>3453748
>a "new episode".
>Gearbox

What?!?!?!11111oneone

[NESfag No.3453760]

The problem with the dynamic lights is that it seems to be their excuse NOT to build sector based shading.

None of the new levels shown in these pics depict any sector based shadow, and there is a lack of wall shading in many parts.

Sector/wall shading is one of the essence of 2.5D shooters. Mixing them with dynamic lights, can look good, if done in a right way, but this here is just lazy.

[NESfag No.3453763]

>>3453758
They acquired the rights to the entire Duke Nukem franchise through court shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.3453764]

>>3453748
Damn this is quite the news. Disappointing news, but news nonetheless.

[NESfag No.3453770]

Do not buy this.

[Anonymous No.3453773]

>>3453763
I hope I will live to see Gearbox burn to the ground.

[Anonymous No.3453843]

>>3453748
>>3453760

Neat looking levels.

[Anonymous No.3453859]

>>3453748
mite b cool

whats so bad about getting a new episode?

nesfag stop with the 'tism pls

[NESfag No.3453897]

>>3453859
>>3453843
Holy shit guys, grow some standard.

Do you not see how badly designed the flamethrower is? Even if you pass on how it's just a freezer reskin, there are still yellow parts in it.

What about the fact their idea of an enemy of fire is giving them the red palette and applying new fire sprites randomly, which can look very unfiitting. Not too mention the lack of consistency between the old fire sprites, which you can see here as well, and the new ones.

What about all those textures, that are completely unfitting for DN3D in terms of style and colour. Let's not mention the inconsistent resolutions for sprites like those damn trees. There is also the inconsistent texture resolutions in the 3rd screenshot.

Then you have all the visual noise, all at all that shit around the wall texture and pot sprite on the first screenshot.

But really the main problems is the mish mash of textures and themes and the way they handled, or didn't handle, shadows and shading.
For instance in the 2nd screenshot, they put an artificial light in the goddamn cliff, out of lazyness even though something like this CALLS for great looking strong sector based shadows.

This could be nice, as far as fan mods are concerned....

My only hope is that these are beta screenshots and all will be fixed, but I have a feeling the screenshots got "leaked" on purpose for viral advertising.

[Anonymous No.3453908]

>>3453897
true but the gameplay mite b cool

[Anonymous No.3453915]

>inb4 they add some of the Gearbox "humor" to the game

[NESfag No.3453917]

>>3453915
One the lines recorded by JSJ is

>bazinga

[Anonymous No.3453925]

>>3453917
>check it
>it's real

I bet Duke will say something about awesome feminism too. And possibly become bisexual, Just some of that Gearbox touch.

[Anonymous No.3453929]

> 20 year old game re-released with a shitty mod
> "episode" implies it's paid and new ones will come
Modern marketing is something

[Anonymous No.3453937]

>>3453897
I think you're hating on it for the sake of shitting on Gearbox.

[Anonymous No.3453938]

>>3453748
Besides this "new episode" it will be same game re-released for ps3/vita a year ago right?

[Anonymous No.3453941]

https://twitter.com/DukeNukemGame

the twitter is the cringiest shit i've seen in a long time

[Anonymous No.3453945]

>>3453897

>levels look cool
>BUT THE WEAPON IS A RE-SKIN

right, but the levels might be good fun to play.

You bleat on about art style in Duke3D like it wasn't wildly inconsistent itself.

[Anonymous No.3453952]

thank god I got duke on steam before it was removed and george lucas'd

[Anonymous No.3453954]

Hey, fucko. Why not just post the link to the thread on the Duke4 forums that you're stealing this all from.

[Anonymous No.3453974]

>>3453941
Is Randy Pitchford having an "argument" with "Duke Nukem" on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.3453978]

>>3453974
>He's the guy roleplaying Duke
BAD

[Anonymous No.3453987]

"You realize you are talking to the person who owns the Duke Nukem franchise, right?" - Randy Pitchford

"we did not acquire Duke to stop." - Randy Pitchford

Expect more shovelware releases next Fall.

[Anonymous No.3454012]

>It's a "NESfag spergs out over some irrelevant bullshit" thread

[Anonymous No.3454051]

>>3453952
The one by 3D realms? Yea that one is ok, even comes with the DOS version and community maps. Seriously, screw Gearbox and everything they stand for

[Anonymous No.3454059]

>>3454012
Those threads are fun desu

[NESfag No.3454094]

>>3453954
It was on reddit first, "fucko".

>>3453938
Not exactly; They made their own sourceport, so it's not the same. Also according to those screenshots they're adding dynamic lights to the original game, I hope they are optional.

Also, chances are that the add-ons that Megaton came with, the original add-ons (Caribbean Life, Duke It Out in DC and Nuclear Winter) won't be included this time around because that would mean paying royalties to a 3rd party; and as proven by how this port was made, they're pretty stingy with that, as they'd rather remake the entire sourceport from scratch rather than paying royalties for an existing one, even if the later costs more.

>>3453937
No. I REALLY want this to be good. I really hope I'm wrong. DN3D is one of my fav game ever and has a been part of my life for a long time.

[Anonymous No.3454095]

>>3453954
>Duke4 forums

kek, who gives a fuck about this duke4 forums you speak of or forums period

[Anonymous No.3454141]

>>3453897
I don't mind themes being all over the place. They're calling this "World Tour" so at least there's a clear idea.

I agree with visual inconsistencies you pointed out.

It's not yet apparent what level design will be like. Bad level design will ruin the new levels more than some visual inconsistencies in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3454145]

>>3454141
EDuke32 guy says the levels are good, he saw them because the mappers contacted him for help even after Gearbox kicked him out or something.

[Anonymous No.3454196]

>implying I'm not just going to drop the new levels into my current Duke folder to play in eduke32 anyway

[NESfag No.3454249]

>>3454196
That is not going to work.

First of all the dynamic lights they are using are new, different than the ones EDuke32 use.

Then, it's been confirmed already that they changed the original game's code, which broke compatibility with 20 years of mods.

This may also mean that, as is, the new code they're using won't be compatible with EDuke32.

Maybe someone will make a compatibility patch at some point though.

[Anonymous No.3454251]

>>3454249
bravo randy pitchford

[Anonymous No.3454253]

Now I'm wondering, how much will they charge for this

I have a feeling it'll make people scoff at it, just a feeling

[Anonymous No.3454305]

>>3454253
I don't expect Gearbox to charge less than 29.99 for this.

[Anonymous No.3454320]

Didn't TX confirm there were competent people working at this?

[Anonymous No.3454323]

>>3454320
the maps

[Anonymous No.3454325]

Didn't TX confirm there were competent people working at the mapping side?

[Anonymous No.3454327]

>>3454323
Yeah, sorry.

[Anonymous No.3454346]

Those fucking textures lol

[Anonymous No.3454350]

>"I came here to eat cake and say memes, and the cake is a lie. Us gamers huh?"

[Anonymous No.3454378]

>>3453945
It's Duke fucking Nukem! There are more levels for it than you could hope to keep track of!

[Anonymous No.3454583]

>>3453954
>fucko

[Anonymous No.3454591]

>>3454249
>Then, it's been confirmed already that they changed the original game's code, which broke compatibility with 20 years of mods.
JUST

[Anonymous No.3454595]

Duke Nukem can't even exist in modern gaming.
It's a gameplay relic of the past.

[Anonymous No.3454601]

>>3453915
Did you ever actually play BL2?
She says this in jest, like, sarcastically. The character is making fun of people for saying it so much.

[Anonymous No.3454616]

>>3454601
This character is a generic NPC and is not the only one saying this line, it doesn't sound sarcastic at all. Gearbox unironically believes this is funny. Besides if you think Borderlands meme humor is funny then be my guest, just don't put it in good games like Duke Nukem 3D.

[Anonymous No.3454625]

don't give the creators of battleborn money
pirate this shit

[Anonymous No.3454632]

>>3453929

What are you talking about? The chunks of maps with some sort of linking theme were always called episodes, kid.

>>3453751
>>3453770

OK, maybe it has been too long since I last played Duke and really looked around, but don't those skyboxes look fucked up?

[Anonymous No.3454634]

>>3454625
well of course, of course

[Anonymous No.3454635]

>>3453915
>"FEMINISM IS AWESOME"

[Anonymous No.3454640]

>>3454595
only because shooters have been casualized so heavily. Dukes macho attitude is going to be in style again soon once cuck culture is eliminated.

[Anonymous No.3454642]

>>3453925
>I Ain't afraid of some alien wang.
>No one steals our dicks... and lives!

[Anonymous No.3454647]

>>3454632
They were originally paralaxed skies so it would just pan the sky texture up and down which made sense for the distant buildings.

But now it looks like the damn buildings are leaning toward you / the centre of the map, and they're too close / big.

They're really fucked up.

[Anonymous No.3454680]

>>3454647

The way they're handled now seems to remove any illusion of depth.

[hobo-chan No.3454717]

>>3453748
can someone catch me up senpai?

[Anonymous No.3454760]

>>3453770
>>3453751

How the fuck did they manage to downgrade a game from 96? It looks absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.3454768]

>>3454760
I've seen it happen in Doom sourceports as well, they're trying to adapt old games to new technology / industry standards and they weren't made for it. They don't know dick about retro.

[Anonymous No.3454776]

>>3453770
>>3453763
>>3453760
>>3453754
>>3453752
>>3453751
>>3453748
Looks fun but the lighting looks like shit. Probably worth a torrent atleast. I guess we'll see next friday

[Anonymous No.3454781]

>>3454776
Wait or someone to get it working in eduke32 and not their rushed sourceport, you deserve a good first experience.

[Anonymous No.3454797]

>>3453748
Why couldn't they just put the new episode in megaton

I dont want 2 different Duke 3D in my library

[Anonymous No.3454905]

>"new episode"

Interesting, perhaps I will pirate this shit to see if it's any bit worthwhile. Judging from these screenshots, probably not. I'm not forgiving you for removing megaton edition from the steam store, you con-man fucks.

[Anonymous No.3454917]

By the way Duke Nuke 3D's 20th birthday was like 7 months ago. Well done, guys.

[Anonymous No.3454928]

>>3453917
It's over

[Anonymous No.3455072]

I've seen GZDoom mods that look much better than this. The community could have made a much better product, with a much better engine, at a fraction of the cost it took to make whatever the fuck this is. Come the fuck on, Gearbox. Why do you hate the community so much?

[Anonymous No.3455087]

>>3455072
$$$

[Anonymous No.3455107]

>>3455072
>seeing nothing but 4 pics
>WOW I'VE SEEN GZDOOM MODS BETTER
Wow, you're /v/ as fuck

[Anonymous No.3455109]

>>3455107
You can see things that look better than screenshots, anon didn't say it actually was better.

Please calm down.

[Anonymous No.3455110]

>>3455107
Well we have.
You want to check out Return to Saturn X, Project MSX, and Demons of Problematique.

[Anonymous No.3455112]

>>3455110
>Project MSX
Well that's just unfair.

[Anonymous No.3455113]

>>3453915
How many times will Duke say "kickass" and "badass"?

[Anonymous No.3455121]

Looking good!
https://youtu.be/V72P9-6S7qM

[Anonymous No.3455168]

>>3453770

Jesus that lighting.

[Anonymous No.3455178]

>>3453917

Every time Duke gibs an enemy:

"Heh-heh-heh, Ba-ZINGA"

[Anonymous No.3455210]

>>3455110
>Return to Saturn X

Back to Saturn X is a vanilla mod.

[Anonymous No.3455214]

>>3454905
Megaton Edition was shit that paled in comparison to a free sourceport.

[Anonymous No.3455215]

>>3455210
Doesn't change the fact that it looks a thousand times better than this.

[Anonymous No.3455219]

Whatever, new stuff doesn't ruin old stuff... if you aren't interested, don't play it.

It's not that big of a deal.

[Anonymous No.3455227]

>>3455219
the gossip is fun though

[Anonymous No.3455231]

>>3455219
>if you don't like, don't play it

This argument misses the entire point of criticism.

[Anonymous No.3455246]

>>3455231
I feel like we're too critical sometimes. We're turning into sourpusses like /v/.

https://youtu.be/mVassPVrdp0

[Anonymous No.3455250]

>>3455246
I don't feel too bad about being critical, even if it's somehow arguably overly critical, of a multi-million or multi-billion dollar company.

They aren't our friends. They're people selling us shit.

[Anonymous No.3455258]

So is this a quick crash grab to try and plug the giant hole Battleborn put in their hull?

[Anonymous No.3455260]

>>3454917
They pulled an "Independence Day"

[Anonymous No.3455271]

So what are some good fan made mods of duke3d?

[Anonymous No.3455275]

>>3455219

In my opinion, that argument only works if you are opposed to the general concept of the product in question. I think most people in this thread like Duke Nukem and older FPS games and would likely be happy with a new episode with new assets. However, from what has been shown it brings into question the execution of the thing that many of us probably want. For me right now the biggest "that looks like shit" point is the botched backgrounds.

I'm guessing the way the game now handles the backgrounds is by placing the original, unmodified texture onto a skydome that covers the play area. That'd explain why the perspective is all fucked up.

[Anonymous No.3455283]

>>3454797
Money. Also JDuke.

I'm guessing this is the version that makes it to GOG at least?

[Anonymous No.3455413]

This is outrageous. It's nothing but a reminder to recognise Rise of the Triad and Shadow Warrior as the pinnacle of Apogee's achievements, and appreciate those.

And they've both had their source codes released to boot! Duke doesn't even have that to make it special anymore!

[Anonymous No.3455420]

>>3455413
I do wish Shadow Warrior had a bigger community.

[Anonymous No.3455441]

>>3453917

[Anonymous No.3455443]

>>3454781
Aw that's kind of you to say anon

[Anonymous No.3455449]

>>3453763
Ouch. And apparently Apogee had barely made it reacquiring the Rise of the Triad licence. Damn.

[Anonymous No.3455451]

>>3453748
And where are those screenshots from?
You stole them, or where they officially communicated somewhere?

[Anonymous No.3455503]

>>3455451

[NESfag No.3455525]

>>3454797
It's complicated. When Megaton was made, someone else had the rights to DN3D, or at least thought they did (the result of the last courtcase is still unclear).

Gearbox had to take it down for a while to shift the rights, but yes they could have put Megaton back with their name on it.
However, that would have meant paying royalties to a bunch of people they don't want paying royalties to, including the EDuke32 makers who had a role in it, and whoever still owns the rights to the original add-ons, which so far are nowhere to be found in this new release.

Besides the key here is to have something "new" enough to make people pay the high price.

>>3455072
I'm sorry but if we're going that way, the DN3D community would have obviously been better suited than Doom's.
This being said, I don't know many mappers who have made great classic style maps, myself included, but perhaps it's just because they don't try.

I believe pro level designers are more likely to study mid 90's FPS level design than to sit on their ego, but what do I know really.

>>3455451
Some redditor found the screens first. I'm not going to give a reddit link here.
I don't go there btw, I was given that link, for all that matters.

I really HOPE these are beta screenshots not meant to be shared, and that all the shit in them have been fixed already, but I have the feeling that the screens were shared, or put where they found, only for "viral advertising", which is what modern games are all about.
I mean why else would we conveniently have screens of the most famous parts of the original game alongside a variety of new stuff, that really really look like promo pics?

[NESfag No.3455541]

>>3455271
Can't find the "you want to play some Duke" pic.

Download the "EDuke32 add-on compilation" for pre installed way to play a long list of the best and most famous fan made episodes and TCs, or map collections, from all era.

If you're looking for something so modified it's not really DN3D anymore, but really fucking awesome anyway, try AMC TC and WGRealms2.

For gameplay mod there are Nuclear Showdown, Duke Plus, War of Attrition.
I don't believe they are compatible with other episodes or mods but most (all?) of them come with usermaps and stuff. Dukeplus should be compatible with most maps.

For maps :
www.scent-88.com
http://msdn.duke4.net/

>>3455413
>>3455420
Play my SW map.
Please, nobody cares about it.

https://youtu.be/_f7AHHwehe0

[Anonymous No.3455549]

>>3455525
>really HOPE these are beta screenshots not meant to be shared, and that all the shit in them have been fixed already
The absence of HUD kinda hints that those are promotional screenshots, so it might even look worse in-game.
I HOPE I'M WRONG

[Anonymous No.3455583]

>>3455246
I'm not sour about this! Apogee released so much stuff. Like Stargunner. I'm just acknowledging Duke Nukem Forever and everything that derives from it as a hopeless mess.

[Anonymous No.3455680]

>>3455549
>bullshots that look worse than the final game

That's counter intuitive

[Anonymous No.3455764]

>Just making a shittier version of Megaton Edition
why

[Anonymous No.3455796]

>>3455541
>Can't find the "you want to play some Duke" pic.
Here ya go. It's in the Doom thread.

[Anonymous No.3455863]

>>3453974

[Anonymous No.3455873]

>>3453917
Link?

[Anonymous No.3455902]

>this thread
it's like I'm on/v/ again!

[Anonymous No.3455913]

>>3453897
>Even if you pass on how it's just a freezer reskin, there are still yellow parts in it.

I don't think the gun is re-colored, it's just the red light source. The enemies are also red, implying that there is a red light source behind duke. The flamethrower is most likely just a modified version of the freezer gun ie. alternative firing mode. Just like with the shrink/expand ray, which are pretty much the same gun but with slightly different tubes and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.3455919]

>own all Duke games on steam
>bought DNF Balls of Steel edition
>excited of Duke Nukem 3D World Tour even though it's released by Gearbox and their SJW goons

Oh who am I kidding, I'm going to buy this game anyway like the sucker I am. I'm too deep already, I can't stop now.

...h-hail to the king, b-baby... I guess...

[Anonymous No.3455925]

If you didn't already know; you can extract eDuke files to Duke Nukem Megaton steam folder and switch the dosbox exe to eDuke exe, and be able to play eDuke via steam with all the steam benefits.

You can show everybody how much of a badass hardcore Duke Nukem fan you are with your high play hours and screenshots. Same thing also works with Open X-COM.

[Anonymous No.3455927]

>>3453941
Cringy? Yes. Politically correct? Hell no.

As much as I hate Randy Moneymemeford, but if he knows what makes Duke a Duke and keeps it that way, it's going to be fine.

As long as he doesn't force his politics or any social justice agenda in the game.

[Anonymous No.3455934]

>>3455925
Just tried that, didn't work.

[NESfag No.3455939]

>>3455913
No. If that was the lightsource, other stuff would be red too. Also look at all the small light sources, being white/yellow, here, they would be conflincting.

The enemies are red because "lol they're on fire" and the weapon recolouring is just bad.

[Anonymous No.3455941]

>>3455934
Ech, I forgot to mention that you have to extract the files to "classic" folder so that when you start Duke Megaton, you click the classic mode and it will launch eDuke.

[Anonymous No.3456191]

>>3455902
/v/ doesn't receive source releases and have access to tons of other add ons all around
see:
>>3455583
>>3454378

[Anonymous No.3456196]

>>3455902
You're right we should worship this halfassed mappack because WE'RE NOT /v/ GUYS!!!

[Anonymous No.3456282]

>>3455941
Oh. Will try that, then. Thanks

[Anonymous No.3456302]

>>3454640
>once cuck culture is eliminated

>implying

It's the hip and trendy fetish anon. It's gonna spread further until it becomes a normal socially acceptable thing like gay relationships. The degeneracy won't end until society collapses like Rome did so many years ago

[Anonymous No.3456489]

So, are we getting anything for Blood & Shadow Warrior next year? They are almost 20.

[Anonymous No.3456548]

>>3455525
>Creating a thread completly based on some rumours of Reddit

Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.3456892]

>>3456302
It's gonna die down, just like 80's died down once 90's hit, and how 90's "hip and cool" culture died down in 2000's. Maybe they will return some day like 80's nostalgia. But for 90's and 10's I'd say never ever.

[Anonymous No.3456895]

>>3453897
Wow, it's like you never played the original. Don't you have to be 18 to be on here kid?

[Anonymous No.3456897]

>>3453917
If you're unfunny, why are you criticizing humour?

[Anonymous No.3456917]

>>3455246
Calling shit shit doesn't make you /v/. Calling everything shit while acting like a retard makes you /v/.

[Anonymous No.3456948]

that reminds me that I forgot to play THE GATE 4 episodes addon I wanted 10 years ago

[NESfag No.3457943]

>>3456895
Why don't you explain how anything I said is like "the original", instant of blatant trolling.

>>3456548
At this point, between the website and the screenshots conveniently left where people would find them, it's an official announcement.

>>3455873
Got deleted, or hidden.

[Anonymous No.3457984]

>Duke kills a pig cop
>ONE MORE FOR TRAYVON

>Duke kills an enemy with a dildo
>DICKS OUT FOR HARAMBE

>kill every single pig cop
>Achievement Unlocked: Black Lives Matter

[Anonymous No.3457992]

>>3456897
What does that even mean?

[Anonymous No.3458010]

>>3456489
You're getting Shadow Warrior (2013) 2. And not even the next year, but this year!

[Anonymous No.3458016]

>>3457984
kill every alien
Achievement Unlocked: Chick Lives Matter

[Anonymous No.3458139]

>yfw Douk makes anti-GG reference
>yfw Douk says "Black lives matter, baby!"
>yfw Douk calls aliens fat neckbeard white male nerds for objectifying women
>yfw Douk advocates gun control
>yfw Douk makes meme references
>yfw the final boss of the new episode is called King MRA (King Master Race Alien)

[Anonymous No.3458145]

>>3458139
back to /pol/ nigger

[Anonymous No.3458149]

And the most autistic nitpicking of the year goes to this thread.

It looks fine you sperglords. Christ you guys are whiny fucking babies

[Anonymous No.3458178]

>>3458145
Make me, ahmed.

[Anonymous No.3458223]

>>3458139

>implying anyone still gives a shit about gamergate

[Anonymous No.3458226]

>>3458223
that faggot does. he's still thinking about it lol

[Anonymous No.3458247]

>>3458223
>implying they didn't beat the shit out of gawker and held them down while Hulk Hogan cannonballed from a 10ft ladder

[Anonymous No.3458315]

>>3454094
A stupid question for you.. Who have already bought the game will have the new episode PLUS the add-ons? (Caribbean Life etc.)

[Anonymous No.3458323]

And the leak on Duke4 and shitgaf is right

they will replace john st John and make some BAZZINGA jokes

it will be a Millennial Duke

[Anonymous No.3458332]

>>3458223
I do care if they try to turn Duke into far left political mouthpiece.

[Anonymous No.3458336]

>>3458323
Replace JSJ? Is it at least going to be a very good impressionist like the one in Duke Caribbean? Someone who sounds exactly like Douk. Maybe LGR, he already did a Duke voice in some game.

[Anonymous No.3458339]

>>3458336

-Millenial duke
-No Classic duke jokes
-Fully Millennial
-BAZZINGA!

[NESfag No.3458417]

>>3458336
>s it at least going to be a very good impressionist like the one in Duke Caribbean?

Wait, what?!

[Anonymous No.3458442]

>>3458323

[Anonymous No.3458461]

>>3458417
Duke is voiced by some guy named Dave Manuel in Life's A Beach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqqNi5DwXg

He does excellent 10/10 job with it. I believe he also did the voice in Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.

[Anonymous No.3458567]

>gearbox

[Anonymous No.3458584]

[Anonymous No.3458604]

>>3458567

he forgot

Being fired from 3drealms for being a complete fucktard, and buying Duke's rights as a vendetta

[Anonymous No.3458612]

>>3453748
Is that some kind of half-assed attempt at "ambient occlusion" around the plant sprites? That looks like complete dogshit, like compression artifacts.

[Anonymous No.3458621]

>>3458612
It looks more like ambient occlusion is being applied to the entire screen, like on the steps too.

[Anonymous No.3458634]

>>3458612
MS Paint®™ JPEG artifacts.

[Anonymous No.3458743]

>>3453897
this might be the most autistic post i've ever read in my 10 years on 4chan

[NESfag No.3458772]

>>3458149
>>3458743
>>3456895
>>3455902
>>3455246
>>3454012

Honestly, have a closer look.

If you still think this looks somewhat decent by any standard, I am very sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.3458798]

>>3458139
Didn't they fire the memespewing machine called "Burch"?

>>3458223
I hope you can enjoy transgendered Dyke

[Anonymous No.3458803]

>>3458772
i get your point, it does look lazily shooped.

lets hope its just a placeholder...

[Anonymous No.3458820]

I'm still annoyed we didn't get to see the betas. Thanks Gearbox.

[Anonymous No.3458826]

>>3458223
Both sides are unbearable, but look at what we're dealing with here.

https://twitter.com/dukenukemgame/status/768919165654544384

[Anonymous No.3458837]

>>3458826

Are they really trying to make Duke a fan of men?

That's it, I'm fucking out.

[Anonymous No.3458865]

>>3458837
>men
THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL WOMYN, SHITLORD
#andimalloutofprivilege

[Anonymous No.3458929]

>>3458820
>I'm still annoyed we didn't get to see the betas

But anon, they're in this thread defending Gearbox.

[Anonymous No.3458953]

Let's be optimistic for a moment. The name of the game and screenshots imply that Douk is going to visit famous landmarks and big cities around the world. Where do you hope to see Douk visit? I want to see him in London and the climax of the map would be him exploding Big Ben or something.

Also, what would be some new cool references/oneliners for Douk?

>Mediocre!
>You're a big guy! (when entering a boss fight)
>Triggered (when blowing up a pipe bomb)
>Procedurally generated mass destruction, baby! (Duke blows up alien planet)
>What a shame (Duke sees mangled J.C. Denton)

[Anonymous No.3458959]

>>3458953
Those last two are acceptable. Keep non vidya meme shit out.

[Anonymous No.3458979]

>>3458959
But Duke Nukem 3D is full of non-vidya references.

[Anonymous No.3458981]

>>3458953

Why? I'm not saying whatever they put in will be good, but the original had plenty of references to non-VG related stuff.Duke isn't a parody of videogames.

That being said, we'll probably get shit like:

>Your privilege just got checked.
>Eat lead, shitlord
>Bazinga
>Looks like you took a bullet to the knee, heh-heh-heh
>Epic.
>You can haz bulletburger
>Haters gonna hate
>*I'M* making America great again.

[Anonymous No.3458990]

>>3458323
>they will replace john st John and make some BAZZINGA joke
fugging dropped

[Anonymous No.3459002]

>>3458981
and
>I like my women both male and female

[Anonymous No.3459064]

I just want that Total Meltdown TC. Be nice to play these levels without slowdown.

[Anonymous No.3459327]

>>3459064
The pigcop looks so fucking out of place. I need to find this shit in motion.

[Anonymous No.3459820]

>>3458981
>but the original had plenty of references to non-VG related stuff

Yeah, specifically, movies! Kind of unfortunate for Duke3d, that it got one up on that homage thing by Action Quake!

[NESfag No.3460541]

>>3453748
This screenshot seem to be based on Amsterdam, for some reasons I didn't realize that.
Besides, there are bicycles too.

inb4 420 jokes.

[Anonymous No.3460932]

>>3458981


WHICH is the same shit that it was leaked back the at gaf and Eduke Forums

Dickford wants to fuck Duke community as payback for 3dRealms fucking him back when he worked for them, and the community bashing him for his stupid shit

[Anonymous No.3462525]

>>3453987
This is what happens when you put time and money into a game like Battleborn only to get shit on and be DOA in 2 months.

[Anonymous No.3462557]

>>3458772
But I thought it was the gameplay that matters. People don't play /vr/ games for the look, they look like shit by today's standards. The reason people are still playing duke and are interested in the new episode is because of the gameplay and levels, not muh textures muh reskins muh lighting

[NESfag No.3462616]

>>3462557
>People don't play /vr/ games for the look, they look like shit by today's standards.

I'm very sorry you if you feel that way. Beautiful art isn't dictated by the advancement of the technical execution.
As far as video games are concerned though, it is a common belief, what publishers and hardware sellers want you to believe so that you keep buying their shit at the high price. A belief that is also spread by video game journalists and their shitty reviews measuring the number of pixels and polygons visible on a screen.

>It looks better!
No, it doesn't. It's technically more advanced, but that doesn't mean that anything made with it will automatically look better than everything made during the past generations.

You should open your eyes and make up your own taste instead of having your thoughts dictated by corporate technological shenanigans. You'll appreciate retro games more.

Duke Nukem 3D has its own visual style. The colours are harmonious, sprites and textures fit together. It has strong contrasts due to a good use of sector and wall shading.
And above all, it doesn't have unfinished weapon sprites which colours bleed and which screams "interns' first shoop".

And this, is why these screenshots look like shit. Either they're not taking it seriously because, like yourself, they think "who cares it's old, it looks like shit anyway", or they don't want to pay too much for a re-release and use untrained interns, or making a 2.5D FPS is so different than a modern one that they don't know how to do it.

[Anonymous No.3462718]

>>3462616
>>it looks better!
>quoting me on something I never said
Get out of here NESfag you're getting straw everywhere.

I fully understand the appeal of the art style of retro shooters but am pointing out that bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete. You shouldn't even care this much. As I said earlier, it's about chewing ass and kicking gum and running through well designed levels at 40mph

[Anonymous No.3462748]

>>3462718
>bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete.

[NESfag No.3462764]

>>3462718
I'm not quoting you. You're not the only person in the world. I was talking about publishers/hardware sellers and pro reviewers and their ways to make you believe technological advancement equals better looking graphics.

>that bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete.

So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them, and also change all the light/shading work with a technical standard of the next generation that doesn't fit with those games.

Doesn't matter right, these games are obsolete.

What are you even doing on this board.

Worst part is that some of the devs working on this probably have the same mentality as you do. The cult of the Techonogod is strong within an industry that strives on constantly new technology.

[Anonymous No.3462771]

>>3454094
>even if the later costs more.
How do you know that? How do you know they didn't try already? Or if paying royalties would fuck them up till the end of time for everything Duke Nukem related that'll be released by them or whoever buys the IP later?

[Anonymous No.3462806]

>>3462764
>So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them

no, because that is actually fucking obvious. If you weren't here sperging out about those screenshots for an entire thread I would not have even noticed it this stuff you keep bringing up.

>What are you even doing on this board
I play retro shooters. I play them because they are fun as fuck and I couldn't care less about the visuals or if the lighting is 2 shades to bright or if the sprites have had some pixels rearranged

although I will admit that it was the graphics and art style that got me playing games like DOOM and Blood and D3d in the first place. Its just that it matters less to me than it does to you

[Anonymous No.3462839]

NESfag is right but idiot doom babbies would never understand something so obvious.

[Anonymous No.3462906]

>>3462764
>So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them, and also change all the light/shading work with a technical standard of the next generation that doesn't fit with those games.
Go ahead, I'll just not play your version and keep the original.
>something I don't like/agree with exists so I must go on a retarded crusade for the betterment of mankind

[NESfag No.3462947]

>>3462771
I don't know if they tried to negotiate for Megaton edition, but it's unlikely considering the way it got taken down.

They definitely haven't tried to make a commercial version of EDuke32, which would have been a sensible solution considering their version is a rip-off of it and they even used EDuke32's map editor to make the new levels.

So they could have used EDuke32, and the only thing they would have had to work on was the multiplayer. It would have saved a lot of development time and manpower, which is money.

Instead, they re-made from scratch with the same features (while fucking up compatibility with existing mods at the same time). Granted, the EDuke32 source is available to anyone, so they were free to rip it off at will, which probably saved time, but they still had to remake it their way.
In case you wonder "how do I know that" again,
it's not assumptions. One of the devs of EDuke32 got hired as "consultant" for a while, and he witnessed huge chunks of their code used as placeholder.

>Or if paying royalties would fuck them up till the end of time for everything Duke Nukem related that'll be released by them or whoever buys the IP later?

No, not Duke Nukem franchise, just THIS version of DN3D. A third party work used on "Duke Nukem 3D: World Tour Edition" isn't going to give that person royalties for Duke Nukem Forever or Duke Nukem 5.

And if it's a problem to "whoever acquires the IP later", then they can do just like Gearbox did with Megaton and the GoG version. Take them down.


tl;dr Yes, when I'm saying that paying royalties for product A costs less than re-making product A from scratch, I'm making assumptions, I don't know the actual numbers.

[NESfag No.3462957]

>>3462947
>>3462771
But think business for a second, the EDuke32 wouldn't have asked for royalties if the sum they'd demand was greater than the potential profit Gearbox could make if they built the product themsleves.

Because if they did, they knew Gearbox would refuse and go for the cheaper option. They must have people whose job is to estimate the long term profit in each case.

This is why paying royalties for EDuke32 would have necessarly been the cheaper way.
It's not like Gearbox needed to have it done very quickly, or didn't have the skills to do it themselves; and the EDuke32 devs are a small company who could REALLY use money. Gearbox would have had the upper hand, by far.

Honestly, I feel the only reason is that Pitchford wants to claim Duke Nukem for himself, and himself alone. And he'd rather use more company for that.

>>3462906
>Go ahead, I'll just not play your version and keep the original.

Which got taken down from both Steam and GOG. Only way you'll be paying for DN3D, PC version, will be their new version, and will remain for years.

>>3462806
The skyboses, the lights and all the visual artifacts are really obvious. I wasn't even nitpicking really, they're the only thing I could see on those screenshots, to the point I didn't even realize the first screenshot was Amsterdam.

[Anonymous No.3462985]

Wow this looks great!

[Anonymous No.3463001]

>>3462839
Doom babies don't care about the quality of their series. They can't even get their source ports to run the game in the correct aspect ratio, even Chocolate Doom gets it wrong by default.

[Anonymous No.3463135]

>>3463001
because it's not really 'their' series. 'their' series is halo and COD where they really belong. they've merely attempted to jump onto a bandwagon because memes and 'gamer cred'. doom babbies are a disgrace to doom and all the other retro fps's.

[Anonymous No.3463208]

>>3463001
Are you really a doom baby if you only play heavily modded doom in sourceports that don't resemble the original in any way?

[Anonymous No.3463248]

>>3462957
I bought Atomic Edition a couple months ago. Not on Steam. Not on GoG. And not from Gearbox.

Shut up.

[Anonymous No.3463256]

What settings do I need to have for EDuke32 for the game to look like the original in DOSBox?

[NESfag No.3463275]

>>3463248
You can't deny that the vast majority of people use whatever version that is easily available and playable online. This is why Megaton is the most commonly used even though it's inferior and full of glitches.

>>3463256
Use the 8bit (8bpp) classic video mode.
4/3 resolution.

Status bar set to "classic" for original HUD.

That's it.

[Anonymous No.3463315]

>>3463275
One more question because I'm retarded. Can I just copy the addon folders from megaton edition like dc, nw, and vacation and set them as the custom game content directory or should I just paste the GRP files into the eduke main directory?

[Anonymous No.3463326]

>>3463315
I ended up doing both and it seems to work.

[NESfag No.3463347]

>>3463326
>>3463315
EDuke32 automatically detects grp from Megaton (original game + add-ons) and they should show up to be select in the startup window (you can re-enable the startup window in the game's options if it doesn't show). Megaton made playing add-ons much easier.

Forgot to mention, originally the game's resolution could only go as far as 800*600. However, there were simple patches for higher resolutions. Later stock Build games could go up to 1600*1200 and above.

So don't feel bad for using higher resolutions. But there isn't much difference between 800*600 and above for Build anyway.

One last minor thing. EDuke32 uses Atomic Edition behaviour, even if you're using the original 1.3 version GRP.
Originally in 1.3 you could use both mighty boot kicks at the same time and couldn't kill slimers with the boot kick. This got changed in Atomic Edition, and EDuke32 goes by that rule, even for 1.3.

[Anonymous No.3463553]

>>3463347
Is it worth using anything but software rendering? The rest don't seem to cast any shadows.

[Anonymous No.3463850]

>>3463275
Who gives a shit what a vast majority of other people do? How does it affect you?

[NESfag No.3464852]

>>3463553
"classic" is the original 2.5D Build renderer
"polymost" is a true 3D renderer, which has the advantage of looking very close to the original while being true 3D (no distortion when looking up and down). Light and shadows remain the same. It should also be faster than classic.
"polymer" is true 3D and can give shiny lights and shadows like for Gearbox's upcoming version. However they're turned off by default now for some reasons so you have to go in "polymer setup".
I just tested myself and wasn't getting any shadow either, which is weird.
I rarely use it myself so I can't say much more.

>>3463850
Excuse me for caring about the fate of one of my fav game.

>How does it affect you?
I've been making maps for DN3D and been part of the community since 2004. This will affect the game to some degree. Look at Megaton, it had its lot of pros&cons. It brought tons of players some of which downloaded maps on the workshop, that's the pro. The con is that it was full of glitches, which speedrunners abused and made famous, giving the game a bad rep, as people will say and think "DN3D is full of glitches" rather than "Megaton is full of glitches".

[Anonymous No.3464867]

>>3464852
Everything but classic gives me z-fighting issues. Have you ever had issues with the HUD flickering in Blood? I never really played that one apart from the first level and I want to give it a shot but DOSbox is giving me weird issues related to flickering.

[NESfag No.3464872]

>>3464867
Yes, in the conf file try changing machine to "vesa_nolfb", that fixed the HUD for me.

[Anonymous No.3464889]

>>3464872
Thank you so much. I was having the same issue with Shadow Warrior.

[Anonymous No.3467512]

>still have 3 incomplete achievements on Duke Nukem: Megaton
>they're all multiplayer achievements
>tfw servers are probably dead already

Also, what's going to happen with Duke Nukem 1, Duke Nukem 2, and Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project? They also were removed during the great Duke purge. Are they going to be bundled together with the new Duke Nukem 3D anniversary edition?

[Anonymous No.3467517]

What would be the chances of Gearbox not being such faggots for one moment, and doing something nice ie. giving free copies of the new Duke 3D for people who already own the Megaton Edition on steam?

Or do they honestly expect people to buy the same game for the second/third/fourth time? I already have 2 Duke Nukem 3Ds in my steam library. 3 if Megaton Edition's classic Duke Nukem 3D is included.

Titan Quest anniversary edition was released yesterday, and the devs gave free copies for everyone who already owned the original. The anniversary edition came bundled with all the expansions and whatnot, so even if you didn't own the expansion originally you got it for free anyway. I hope Gearbox will do something similar.
If Gearbox handed out free copies for loyal Douk fans, that would be pretty cool.

You reading this, Randy? Gibi free Douk!

[Anonymous No.3467523]

>>3467512
>servers are probably dead
Why don't you just go find out yourself, dickfist?

[NESfag No.3467546]

>>3467512
>multiplayer achievements

Here is how I got mine. Took a few minutes.
I had a 2nd copy of Megaton for free for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about and I installed it on my GF's laptop. Made this map.

>>3467517
Exactly. Not to mention that, fuck, Megaton sold WONDERS, eveyone has the game already.

Also Quake 20th anniversary got a free new episode. I know it's not the same but...

We'll see, but for some reasons I doubt any of this will be free. At best Megaton owners may get coupon.
Watch as the coupon will be for the main game and new episode will be DLC.

[NESfag No.3467548]

>>3467512
>multiplayer achievements

Here is how I got mine. Took a few minutes.
I had a 2nd copy of Megaton for free for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about and I installed it on my GF's laptop. Made this map.

>>3467517
Exactly. Not to mention that, fuck, Megaton sold WONDERS, eveyone has the game already.

Also Quake 20th anniversary got a free new episode. I know it's not the same but...

We'll see, but for some reasons I doubt any of this will be free. At best Megaton owners may get coupon.
Watch as the coupon will be for the main game and new episode will be DLC.

[Anonymous No.3467616]

>>3458981
What if he says BAZINGA in a scene that's a jab at The Big Bang Theory?

[Anonymous No.3467619]

>>3460541
I thought it was New Orleans

[Anonymous No.3467623]

>>3467616
Nah, Gearbox employees must love that show.

[Anonymous No.3467625]

>>3467623
Why?

[Anonymous No.3467759]

>>3467625
He's memeing you. There are no legitimate reasons.

[Anonymous No.3467981]

>>3467616

Ever since I heard of that, whenever someone posts Bazinga, I hear it in Duke's voice.

[Anonymous No.3469558]

Today is the day. 12 more hours to go.

Oh please great gods of gaming, Lord Kek, and the others. Please don't make this suck.

[Anonymous No.3469573]

>>3467759
>He's memeing you.

What did he meme by this?

[Anonymous No.3469582]

>>3456302
>It's the hip and trendy fetish anon. It's gonna spread further until it becomes a normal socially acceptable thing like gay relationships.

That doesn't make sense. The excitement factor of cucking hinges on the taboo aspect. Over-saturation and acceptance will make it boring and people won't get off on it anymore.

[Anonymous No.3469591]

>>3469582
Spoken like a true cuck.

[Anonymous No.3469596]

>Shadow Warrior Classic remains one of the only three games I got all achievements for
>had tons of fun
>the remake was shitty but it moved in a good direction with certain things
>SW2 rolls around
>it's a Borderlands clone

any comment, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3469626]

>>3469596
Shadow Warrior remake was pretty nice, but it was super repetitive and not "old school" like the reviews made it sound like. It was more like Serious Sam and Painkiller:
>walk in room
>room gets sealed
>bunch of enemies teleport in the room
>kill the enemies
>room gets unsealed
>proceed
>repeat

The swordplay is great and feels just right, but I wish the game was more like the original Shadow Warrior with actual multilayered mazelike levels.

[NESfag No.3469635]

>>3469596
I don't know. I enjoyed the remake a lot for what it was, but it was limited and had balancing issues (above Hard difficulty, only the sword and rocket launcher are useful) and enemies tend to be bullet sponges.

I've never played Borderlands. It doesn't look interesting to me, but SW2, I think I'm going to get. Plus, it only costs 30bucks and the recommended specs are low.

If you like the original SW, check out my map. It's on Redux' workshop, but it's also vanilla and SWP compatible.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=672903269

[Anonymous No.3469648]

Anyone with experience using eduke32 know how I can get the menu backgrounds images (atomic symbol, duke splash image on title screen) to display in widescreen using Duke high resolution pack? I literally see a folder in the zip file of hrp in \highres\screen\menu\ called widescreen which has all those 4:3 images in widescreen mode but I can't for the fuck of me get them to show in-game. Even replacing the 4:3 images in \highres\screen\menu\ doesn't do jack shit.

[Anonymous No.3469863]

I actually AM interested, but I don't like Gearbox, and the levels only look so-so.

I'll likely pirate it.

[Anonymous No.3469885]

You know I wouldn't mind seeing Duke plowing a trap.

[Anonymous No.3469889]

>>3469596
H-How Borderlands clone is it? You don't mean it's open world pointlessly RPG full of memes, do you?

[Anonymous No.3470029]

>>3469635
Is Redux worth getting over the original?

[NESfag No.3470082]

>>3470029
If you ask me the best way to play Shadow Warrior is still in DOS(box).

Redux uses a true3D renderer, so it's good if you're allergic to the way 2D engines look when yo look up and down, and it also has some remade art but mostly stuff like menus and HUD.
Depending on your computer you may get higher framerate more easily with Redux than with DOSbox.

Good thing about it was that it came with the 2 add-ons, but they're now free as well as the original on GoG in a DOSbox version.
https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

[Anonymous No.3470264]

>>3470029
Redux is fine and at least on Steam it comes with the DOS version, so if you have none you might as well get it when it's on sale. If you have the original I wouldn't bother.

[Anonymous No.3470485]

9 minutes!

[Anonymous No.3470508]

Hugged to death. Anybody getting anything?

[Anonymous No.3470514]

>>3470508
Nope. It seems that the servers got.... nuked.

[Anonymous No.3470528]

>>3469889
Bulletsponges, "random" weapons with "funny names", characters giving you fetch quests, really generic "open" levels.

It looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.3470571]

>it's a stream with gearbox talking about borderlands

[Anonymous No.3470583]

>>3470571
>it's a randy pitchfork baits duke nukem fans to watch his stream where he calls them bigots for calling him mean names on twitter episode

He also mentioned gamergate, as if they're bigots. Even after that broteam brought up those chatlogs that prove Zoey etc. are complete assholes who harass people and make shit up, and that GG was right about everything.

[Anonymous No.3470587]

>>3470571
>think you're shitposting
>refresh page
>it's real

i still hate you though

[Anonymous No.3470590]

>>3470587
Hate on Randy, he's the devil.

[Anonymous No.3470595]

F

[Anonymous No.3470603]

The king is dead.

[Anonymous No.3470609]

https://wwwDOTtwitchDOTtv/gearboxsoftware/v/87224479?t=41m41s
i can't believe this is real

[Anonymous No.3470620]

>>3470609
>that houston joke
that's pretty funny
>i unfollowed the guy cause it's sexist
oh...

[Anonymous No.3470626]

I'm sorry to all OG 3D Realms devs who worked on this but:

I cannot give Gearbox my money. They are too shit a company for me to do that and not feel bad about myself.

[Anonymous No.3470631]

>pre-order
>20 BUCKS

Kek. At least give us Megaton Edition owners a gift copy of it, or at least a coupon. Are we really going to have to buy the same game again?

>>3470626
This. I don't want to give a single penny to Gearbox and Randy Pitchford. I might buy this game if it's bundled in Humble Bundle, just so that I can get the game and give the money to charity.

[Anonymous No.3470635]

>>3470609
>this fucking song
fuck me I wanted the new Duke, but I don't want to give money to this absolute autistic idiot

[Anonymous No.3470636]

>>3470626
3D Realms is long dead. What's left is a disease wearing its skin.

[Anonymous No.3470640]

>return of levelord
>return of lee jackson
>return of SJS

Fuck you Gearbox and fuck you Randy. If this was published by literally any other company this would be the tightest shit ever.

[Anonymous No.3470643]

I was actually kinda excited to see this new thing but they're advertising the fact that it's the same duke but on modern consols like this is a new thing and eduke and megaton edition don't exist.

[Anonymous No.3470648]

>>3470643
He did mention how it was removed from steam

but ya, sounded more like he was talking to consoler gamers

[Anonymous No.3470652]

you can tell Randy clearly fucking hates Duke Nukem. I mean he got offended by the most innocent joke on the internet and then got triggered that people called him an oversensitive idiot, so he had to sing a song in front of thousands of people to validate his feelings. Imagine what babe jokes and throwing money at whores does to him, I bet he is fucking boiling inside, but needs that Duke Nukem money so he puts up with it.

[Anonymous No.3470659]

>>3470640
Fucking this.

[Anonymous No.3470660]

>no mention of Duke it out in D.C., Duke Caribbean, and Nuclear Winter

So apparently these are not included with the game.

[Anonymous No.3470672]

>Duke (SJS) makes a really raunchy sex joke on stage
>Randy laughs nervously, gets up, and shakes as if he's literally triggered like in those [TRIGGERED] memes

What in the name of fuck? I can't believe these people exist for real. The joke went something like this:
>I had eggs for breakfast... your mom had sausage

[Anonymous No.3470678]

>>3470672
timestamp?

[Anonymous No.3470679]

>>3470672
Maybe it's cause you choose to see it that way?
He clearly found it funny.

[Anonymous No.3470689]

>>3470679
Hard to believe he's a fan of dirty jokes after seeing him publicly flaunt his hurt feelings over some science porn joke.

[Anonymous No.3470714]

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows Vista/7/8/8.1/10 x64
Processor: Intel Core i3-530 (2*2930) or equivalent AMD Phenom x4 9850 (4*2500) or equivalent
Memory: 2048 MB RAM
Graphics: GeForce GT 610 (1024 MB) or equivalent Radeon HD 6850 (1024 MB) or equivalent
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 1200 MB available space

Time to rev up those RETRO GAMING COMPUTERS for some Duke Nukem 3D!

[Anonymous No.3470718]

>>3469889
>>3470528

Dick jokes, selfie sticks and randomly generated levels too

[Anonymous No.3470885]

>>3467548
You sucked a dick for a copy of Megaton lmao. I got those achievements playing legit and it was hard as fuck I played against some very good players.

[Anonymous No.3470903]

Does Megaton Edition have fully working multiplayer? Should I just play with YANG for co-op?

[Anonymous No.3470904]

>>3470714
Regardless of this being Duke 3D, that's a toaster, m8.

[Anonymous No.3470907]

>Greetings and welcome to my review of Gearbox's re-release of the greatest game ever Duke Nukem 3D. Upon layering it with added modern visual effects and re-recording all of the original lines with the great Jon St. John. Though the lines had some tweaking to make them more appropriate for modern times, They have never sounded better in quality. Gearbox also went out of their way to graciously add Dukes World Tour, a new campaign featuring new levels and a new weapon. Thankfully Duke has brought his topical wit to him, making references to modern pop-culture. The Big Bang Theory, Fury Road, and the dreaded Gamergate are targets of Dukes one-liners, and while some may call them "references" or "memes" Duke has always been about taking culture and making it his own, parodying it if you will. With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.
>In short: While many criticize Gearbox for their handling of the series, Duke couldn't be in better hands. As the man with the shades once said "Come Get Some!"

What did you think of Lazy Gamers Review of Duke 3Ds re-release?

[Anonymous No.3470910]

>>3470907
Fuck off this isn't real.

[Anonymous No.3470912]

>>3470907
shill/10
I don't use that term often but that reads like Randy gave him a script to write off of.

[Anonymous No.3470914]

>>3470910
you know it will be

[Anonymous No.3470920]

>>3470907

>With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.

What?

[Anonymous No.3470925]

like flies on shit

[Anonymous No.3471118]

>>3470626
It's alright, the levels and the assets will be ripped in seconds.

[Anonymous No.3471120]

>>3470907
>With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.
KILLYOURSELF

Sorry, it was on reflex, I just lose it when someone defends Duke Nukem Forever.

[Anonymous No.3471134]

>>3470714
>Quadcore recommended
>Higher end 2011 gpu recommended with 1GB VRAM
>directx 11 needed
>For a game from 1996 with a prettier look
What happened to optimization where we take games from 20 years ago and make them even more bloated? How the fuck did we get to this point?

[Anonymous No.3471237]

>>3469626
>It was more like Serious Sam and Painkiller

Doesn't help that the new Doom is in the same style of those further spreading the misconception that's how older shooters played.

[Anonymous No.3471251]

>>3470626
Yeah even ignoring the stupid shit Randy says all the time I just can't support a company that pulls some of the shady shit they've pulled before. It amazes me they've gotten away with blatant plagiarism and outsourcing a game to a super cheap company so they can use the money that was originally meant for said game on their own project instead.

[NESfag No.3471278]

So the rumours about the original level designers were true. That makes me feel even more sorry about the art.

And judging from the video, the "flamethrower" WAS a beta after all. Phew. Except it's not exactly a flamethrower, and honestly it looks kinda terrible.

>>3470648
Megaton was on console too. And there was also DN3D XBLA.

>>3470660
I told you about the original add-ons, man I told you.

>>3470714
OMG this can't be real!
>check it
It's real. Holy shit their new lights are even worse than EDuke32's in terms of performance.

>>3471134
It's the lights. They "made their own" but ripped it off from EDuke32, and those are famous for having terrible perfromance, ESPECIALLY if you don't know what you're doing.

>>3470885
I didn't suck a dick. I got hired and paid to do a thing that was never used but which required testing in multiplayer. The NDA I signed isn't valid anymore, and Megaton is down, but I'm still not going to say more.

>>3470903
Megaton's multiplayer... has a lot of latency.

[NESfag No.3471286]

>>3471278
>And judging from the video, the "flamethrower" WAS a beta after all. Phew. Except it's not exactly a flamethrower, and honestly it looks kinda terrible.

Or not. went very fast in the video and didn't notice even in "firing stance" the colours are shitting all over the place.

[Anonymous No.3471289]

>>3470904
>that's a toaster, m8.

That's not really the point m8y. The specs being so demanding for Duke 3D is probably a sign there's a bunch of other things they screwed up as well. My computer is above and beyond the recommended specs but it makes me wonder what the hell they're doing to recommend those specs.

[NESfag No.3471291]

>>3455913
Looks like you were right in a way. In the video, you see a red enemy for a split second because he's near red light. This being said, I see no red light in that original screenshot so I still think it's their way to make "enemy on fire".

[NESfag No.3471324]

I am guessing this is Amsterdam.

The lack of new sprites to depict weed plantations is VERY disappointing.

This here screams "USERMAP" rather than pro. I'm sorry Levelord, not your fault, you just had to work with shitty art.

[NESfag No.3471342]

Censored health kits, apparently because the red cross was complaining about the use of its symbol in violent video games. Just repeating what I'm told.

[Anonymous No.3471351]

How much of 3DRealms' work is actually in Blood? Didn't Monolith rewrite a lot of the engine? Who did the level design?

[Anonymous No.3471352]

>>3462616
>I'm very sorry you if you feel that way. Beautiful art isn't dictated by the advancement of the technical execution.
>As far as video games are concerned though, it is a common belief, what publishers and hardware sellers want you to believe so that you keep buying their shit at the high price. A belief that is also spread by video game journalists and their shitty reviews measuring the number of pixels and polygons visible on a screen.

> Beautiful art isn'tdictated by the advancement of the technical execution

Stick figures confirmed for beautiful. Hey, beautiful art is not dictated by technical execution! Everything is beautiful!

[Anonymous No.3471354]

>>3471342
>apparently because the red cross was complaining about the use of its symbol in violent video games.

That was their justification but I'm sure it's really because they didn't catch onto people using their symbol in video games until a few years ago and finally started cracking down on it. Think the same thing happened with the versions of Doom included in the BFG edition.

[Anonymous No.3471356]

>>3471352
Neck yourself for such a shitty strawman

[NESfag No.3471361]

>>3471351
3DRealms didn't "develop" anything for Blood. They were publishers of it, when Q Studios was the developer. Q Studio was acquired by Monolith and 3DRealms sold them the publishing rights.

As for the engine, any Build game's engine is divided in two.
There is the "Build" code, developed by K. Silverman on one side, taking care of things like the rendering, and the "game" code on the other side taking care of things like gameplay behaviours and in game effects.
This is why most Build games are completely different, despite sharing that same base. This is the reason why you can't just play other Build games in a DN3D sourceport like you could play Heretic in a Doom port.

Here is an explanation on how it works :
http://fabiensanglard.net/duke3d/index.php

Anyway, so this together creates what we'd call an "engine". The "Build" code, developers of game had no access to. If they wanted changes, they had to ask Silverman. Unsatisfied with his response, Monolith reverse-engineered part of it to make their changes. But things like TRoR and in game effects are actually on the side of the "game" code.

So, Q Studios/Monolith did the level design. They did everything in Blood except the "Build" code, but which they modified to some extent anyway.

[Anonymous No.3471363]

>>3471361
I always see people credit 3Drealms for the game and hear how it was sold off to monolith late in development so I was curious.

[Anonymous No.3471364]

SO THIS
IS THE POWER
OF GEARBOX

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Vzg92DMev1

[Anonymous No.3471369]

Hate to derail but Shadow Warrior Classic Complete is free on GoG. I know Steam offers it for free but I'm not sure if it offers the expansion so there you go.

[NESfag No.3471372]

>>3471363
I think people just mix up publishers and developers, like they often do.

>>3471364
Honestly I find the re-recordings of the old lines heard in the video sound a little apathetic. Where did you find this though?

[Anonymous No.3471375]

>>3471351
>>3471361
Monolith went on to create the Lithtech engine, and likewise released the source too. They look seriously legit.

[Anonymous No.3471385]

>>3471369
Fuck those slavshit sellouts.

[Anonymous No.3471395]

Remember when Forever came out and everyone was like "Duke Nukem can't exist in today's society! Gaming is so much progressive now!"

Game reviewers should be shot.

[Anonymous No.3471401]

>>3471385
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.3471485]

>>3471395
I remember that. I also remember them trying to explain the failure of Duke Forever because "it simply doesn't work nowadays". It just showed that the so called experts of gaming didn't know jack shit about video games. The game sucked ass because it completely missed what made Duke Nukem 3D so damn good.

Duke Nukem Forever is the perfect example of what is wrong with modern gaming.

[Anonymous No.3471504]

>>3471134
its nessesary because it runs on modern OS, ms dos was an alot leaner

[Anonymous No.3471507]

>>3471369
>free
It says 2.49€ here. That's cheap as fuck but still not 'free'.

[Anonymous No.3471510]

>>3470904
Right now I'm on a netbook with a 2.16 > 2.58 GHz Celeron, Intel HD 4000(?) & 2GB RAM. Now this is a toaster, but it runs the web well and I actually use it to play a lot of games, many much more advanced than Duke Nukem 3D. Max Payne 1 & 2, Rollcage I & II, Red Faction; all at max settings. It runs eduke32 just great (but not polymer with lights on).

What gearbox are doing is pure bullcrappen, and people who hand-wave away specs are part of the problem. This is shit programming and lazy-af development practices.There is no justification under the sun to require a damned i3 for a game with <1000 polys on scene and billboard sprites.

[NESfag No.3471512]

>>3471507
He means this, the one running in DOSbox which is free and now has the 2 addons as well, not Redux.

https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

>>3470082
Forgot to mention Redux has true widescreen support.

[Anonymous No.3471516]

>>3471504
Bullshit. Even original duke running through DOSbox (on top of "modern OS") will be faster on lower specs than what gearbox are asking.

I set my laptop to cap the CPU at 600 MHz on battery and was able to play 3D games from 2000/2001 without speed loss. Modern CPUs are crazy efficient with near-1 IPC.

[NESfag No.3471519]

>>3471504
It's the lights. Hopefully they can be turned off like their shitty normal maps and any modern post processing they throw on it and everyone will be happy.

[Anonymous No.3471534]

>>3471519
It's bad programming of the lights, let's be correct here. What's the fillrate of a modern card now -- gigapixels, right? So you're telling me that a medium range GPU is required to colour <1000 polys (there are about 30 polys max in that particular screenshot) and even at per-pixel that's still only 2M at 1920x1080, hardly anything even for a integrated graphics.

[Anonymous No.3471536]

>>3471278
Nda because you went down on a dude

[Anonymous No.3471557]

>>3471512
>He means this, the one running in DOSbox which is free and now has the 2 addons as well, not Redux.
Ah my bad, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3471571]

I hope the new episode can be run in Eduke32.

[Anonymous No.3471576]

>>3471571
They used eduke's editor to make them -- outside of sabotaging the format on purpose then yes, they should work.

[Anonymous No.3471815]

>>3471364

By the way, this is the dreaded "Bazinga!" that JSJ recorded and people thought it wasn't real

[Anonymous No.3471819]

>>3471361
>This is the reason why you can't just play other Build games in a DN3D sourceport like you could play Heretic in a Doom port.
You actually can't play Heretic in a straight Doom source port, it's just that most of the modern Doom source ports have pulled in the code from Heretic and can run in Heretic "mode".

[Anonymous No.3471859]

>>3463850
It's a NESfag, everything that happens here is personal for him. He's attention whore.

[Anonymous No.3471914]

>>3471519
Do they also add HD textures into the mix?

[Anonymous No.3471928]

>>3471571
>>3471576

If they do actually work outside the new game, that would be the tits. Literally no reason to buy the new edition if you already own any of the older ones.

[NESfag No.3471938]

>>3471928
Even if the new episode doesn't work in EDuke32 at release, someone will make it work.

>>3471815
It might not be bad. DN3D is known for its easter eggs of famous dead characters.....

>>3471914
No

>>3471819
My bad. My point is, Blood is very different than DN3D, most likely more so than Heretic compared to Doom.

[Anonymous No.3472396]

>>3455919
Welp, after reading about the shady Gearbox shit and Randy Pitchford being a dick, I've decided not to give my money to Gearbox ever again. What a shame, I would love to play the new episode, but perhaps it will be playable with eDuke.

And I really did buy Duke Nukem Forever: Balls of Steel Edition back then... and Aliens: Colonial Marines... and the DLC!

Never again.

[Anonymous No.3472412]

>>3472396
I bought DNF used for a dollar and I still feel wronged.

[Anonymous No.3472703]

>>3472396
DNF could have been redeemed had it gotten a modding community, the potential for interactive environments was in the campaign, but it meant nothing when there was no way to mod it. Gearbox being utter cunts really did fuck it up and it's a shame that if it did had a modding community, it would be worth pirating or buying used. But no.

One of the greatest things about DN3D was the modding community that still keeps it alive and relevant today, DNF on the other hand was always a vaporware joke in development, a polarized mess at launch, and after all that and 2 short DLC packs that are useless, it's pretty much dead. Had there been a modding community, it could have at least been mentioned as one of those games where "It's horrible, but the mods make it fun", but of course Gearbox didn't want to light the spark for a modding community, despite the fact that the modding community is what made DN3D so great and that the game was on the mother fucking Unreal engine.

[Anonymous No.3472886]

>>3454350
Why is 'CASINO' reflected in his glasses the right way around?

[Anonymous No.3472896]

>>3472703
>2 short DLC packs that are useless

I'm pretty sure those were part of the original intended game. But if killing Dr. Proton like some QTE mini-boss was in the prototype than I would agree it was useless to sell them as DLC.

Multiplayer was good though.

[NESfag No.3473504]

IGN posted some preview gameplay videos.

The sound quality of the old effects is ATROCIOUS. They succeeded in making it worse than a 1996 sound.

Then there is the new JSJ. There is a dichotomy between the sound quality of the that and the rest, and it looks like at least half of the re-recordings sound worse then the original.

Thank fuck the community will fix all of this with a mod, or make the new content playable in EDuke32 with the original sound quality which is all that matters.

One of the videos show a gameplay "rewind" feature.

Good thing is you can turn off the dynamic lights by the press of a key.

https://youtu.be/ASYRgHcNXVo

[Anonymous No.3473520]

>>3473504
It looks worse other than looking up doesn't distort everything

[Anonymous No.3473521]

>>3473504
Dude, you don't have to post the exact same shit you're saying and taking from the Duke4 forums. Fuck off.

[NESfag No.3473545]

>>3473521
That forum isn't the center of the universe. People who care about the fate of retro games need to know. For instance someone who hasn't played the original game in some time may not realize the worse sound quality if not told so.

Once they have all the important info, people then can take the decision wether or not they'll buy it.

Also what does it matter, nobody fucking goes on this 4chan board anyway.

As for "taking" from the forum.... That is a video taken from IGN, Made to be shared. If you're pissed because you think you deserve credit for "your link" you have worse issues than fucking namefags on an anonymous imageboard.

[NESfag No.3473553]

>>3473545
>For instance someone who hasn't played the original game in some time may not realize the worse sound quality if not told so.

The IGN guy clearly doesn't seem to have noticed and he's supposed to be a "pro".

[Anonymous No.3473562]

>>3473504
everything about that looks shit

[Anonymous No.3473601]

>>3473553
The guy playing the game for IGN was probably born after the original game was made. I'm sure "game journalists" are hired for their journalism "skills" and not game skills or knowledge.

[Anonymous No.3473605]

>>3471485
Playing Deus Ex and then Human Revolution immediately afterwards last week really made me realize just how awful modern UIs are now. Damn near every action you take has XP prompts popping up and hacking causes like three of them with at least one ALWAYS blocking out a portion of the email you're trying to read.

[Anonymous No.3473609]

>>3473605
they brought vegas game designers on to help the ui design for modern games sometime around 2013 or so. those little popups have been proven in brain scans of players to trigger dopamine rewards

[Anonymous No.3473626]

Summoning NESfag to >>>/v/350695287 to explain the difference between BloodCM and original Blood

[Anonymous No.3473638]

>>3473609
For your average kid who thinks that is progress once they get a taste of a real game those little xp shuts will lose their satisfaction

[Anonymous No.3473651]

>>3473638
They'd probably give up after five minutes when playing a real game cause a wave of numbers didn't fly up after shooting someone.

[Anonymous No.3473661]

>>3471485
>battleborn ui.jpg

[Anonymous No.3473684]

>>3458223
Some still follow the old ways. We don't make ourselves known, but we abide, in the shadows, patiently ready for the time of need that calls us to action again.

It is not a simple job, but it is a necessary one. For Vivian. For /v/. For the gamers. We endure. We wait. We rest. Ever faithful, ever vigilant, ever ready. We are #GamerGate.

[Anonymous No.3473689]

>>3458826
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE WHENEVER I LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH DUKE

[Anonymous No.3473693]

>>3473684
fag

[Anonymous No.3473695]

>>3473693
don't encourage them by responding

[Anonymous No.3473696]

>>3458223
Randy does.

Probably as a way to distract people from how he's actually a snake in the grass and an embezzling crook.

[Anonymous No.3473706]

>>3473684
>>>/8ch/

[Anonymous No.3473709]

>>3473706
just report

[Anonymous No.3473716]

>>3458826

[Anonymous No.3473761]

>>3473553
>>3473601
Pro Tip: Game journalists are casuals.

[Anonymous No.3473764]

>>3453748
>World
>no Tokyo
>no Berlin

wat

[Anonymous No.3473770]

>>3458826
holy fuck why

[Anonymous No.3473776]

>>3471364

[Anonymous No.3473781]

>>3473761
ya think?

[Anonymous No.3473783]

>>3473695
>>3473709
ohhhhhh nooooo it's so spooookyy and scaaarrryyy ooooohhh

[NESfag No.3473793]

Found another screenshot on some random website. No idea where they got the screenshot, but it certainly is the new Russian level.

>>3473626
haven't been on /v/ since /vr/ was made and I don't intend to

>>3473761
Yeah I know, hence why the word need to be spread.

>>3473776
Wait for it. There is good chance this will be for an easter egg featuring a dead shelton.

>>3473764
There could be a secret level? Who knows.

[NESfag No.3473795]

>>3473793
And another screen although this one is nothing special. Looks like it's from The Birth.

[Anonymous No.3473801]

>>3473684
I sincerely hope you're just bored trying to elicit some funny responses right now.

[Anonymous No.3473802]

>>3473504
>that contrast between original sound effects and HD duke talk

What the fuck. Why not just re-record all the sounds while at it?

[NESfag No.3473804]

Someone on twitter took a pic of the XBOX ONE pre order page and on the bottom left there is another unseen screenshot, but it's cut.

Anyone here with an XBOX ONE and a PS4 could take better pics of the new screenshot?

[Anonymous No.3473808]

>>3473504
>that terrible IGN player
>doesn't pick the secret rpg from the ledge
>doesn't kick the projector room glass
>that weird duketalk where JSJ sounds like he's tired of voice acting and makes everything sound sarcastic (especially the "where is it?" at 2:41)

[Anonymous No.3473815]

>>3458826

[NESfag No.3473816]

>>3473804
Here

[Anonymous No.3473817]

>>3471342
That lighting looks terrible. Why does it have to be a multi colored mess in that room?

[Anonymous No.3473819]

>>3473816
IMO lighting actually looks better than in EDuke32, but SSAO isn't dispersed according to numerous factors, and is instead made uniform which makes it look jarring and unnecesary tacked on.

[Anonymous No.3473823]

>>3473808
I'd probably be tired if I had to deal with Gearbox's shit too. But seriously though why the fuck did they even rerecord his lines? Will there at least be an option to use the original audio?

[Anonymous No.3473826]

>>3471342
LEL

anybody got a trailer for this new one?

btw the gameplay will be the same right? Thinking about getting the PS4 version only when it's dirt cheap

[NESfag No.3473845]

>>3473817
>>3473819
I don't care. In the IGN videos you can turn them off with the press of a single key so hopefully that's in the final release and I'm going to do that.

>>3473826
>trailer

Here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYuGRhArXw

Gameplay looks the same but who knows, they could have changed somethings, intentionally or not, but it should be pretty minor.
The IGN Death Row gameplay video shows the "rewind" feature.

There is a new weapon in the new episode, that doesn't look that interesting if you ask me, and there should be a new enemy as well called "Firefly".

[Anonymous No.3473846]

>>3453748
Wasn't there already an enhanced DN3D on steam or something?

[Anonymous No.3473849]

>>3473846
It was "unhanced". With brand new glitches and multiplayer latency. Also it was removed from Steam when Gearbox acquired rights to DN franchise.

Real enhanced version is EDuke32.

[Anonymous No.3473852]

>>3473849
I already know about eduke. I'm saying why essentially do the same thing again as something that was literally done a few years ago and already has a source port?

[Anonymous No.3473862]

>>3473852
Because the guys who released Megaton were a different company who lost the distribution rights and now Gearbox owns it and they wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna do what they want instead even if it means some idiot like you is gonna bitch about it cry your little bitch tears bitch boy they make me rock hard yeah that's the stuff I just wanna use your tears as lotion to masturbate with it's gonna feel so good oh man I'm cumming just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.3473865]

>>3473862
>>3473862
>they wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna do what they want instead even if it means some idiot like you is gonna bitch about it cry your little bitch tears bitch boy they make me rock hard yeah that's the stuff I just wanna use your tears as lotion to masturbate with it's gonna feel so good oh man I'm cumming just thinking about it.
fuck off randy nothing your company has ever made has been funny

[Anonymous No.3473878]

>>3473862
Is this a textual version of a verbal diarrhea?

[Anonymous No.3474091]

>>3472886

The real casino has the letters reversed, just like an ambulance

retard

[Anonymous No.3474146]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpjQ0rPwDk

What the...

[Anonymous No.3474148]

>>3474146
It's like quick loading on a slider, I don't see the actual problem with that.

[Anonymous No.3474152]

>>3474146
>Save scumming but made more convenient AND powerful
You have to be the most casual of casuals to actually need something more than save scumming.

[NESfag No.3474153]

>>3474146
Wait a minute, I just realized they made extended widescreen weapon sprites. The RPG looks cool, at least.

[Anonymous No.3474161]

>>3474152
Then don't use it you little bitch.

[Anonymous No.3474173]

>>3474146
They had the same feature in xbox 360 version of Duke Nukem 3D.

[Anonymous No.3474319]

>>3471364
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Vzg92DMev1
how_do_you_do_fellow_kids.jpg

[Anonymous No.3474330]

>>3470714

[Anonymous No.3474353]

This video shows you can turn between the 2.5d sector-lightning based rendering and the full 3d colored lightning rendering. I would prefer a mix of full 3d and sector lightning as 2.5d and low fov gets me mad dizzy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvE1pqS7JnQ

[Anonymous No.3474363]

>>3473862
I didn't know Randy Pitchford posted on /vr/.

How's your embezzling going?

[NESfag No.3474409]

>>3474353
I can't get over how badly they fucked up the original sounds quality. It's so muffled and distant.

It probably gets worse in the new episode, if the old muffled sounds are mixed with new ones.

[Anonymous No.3474412]

>>3474409
Sounds will probably be easy to replace unless there's something in the audio rendering engine that makes them come out as this. Unlikely though

[NESfag No.3474420]

>>3474412
Yeah sure, well, if they had to change the sounds it's probably because they're using another format and the conversion was handled terribly. Meaning, you probably can't use the old sounds "as is" but converting them, properly, shouldn't be an issue.

But really, the issue is, you can't patch the console versions. Then, not everyone on PC will patch them either, it's a minority.

But the worst about is that, it proves that this was handled poorly, by people who either didn't care or didn't know what they were doing. That is not a good sign.

[Anonymous No.3474442]

>>3455541
I played your map anon

[Anonymous No.3474487]

>>3474420
>you can't patch the console versions

[Anonymous No.3474640]

>>3474353
The new lighting reminds me of when 3D cards were first coming into popularity and everyone discovered colored lighting, so they used it everywhere without consideration.

That ambient occlusion is also obnoxious as hell. They need to tone it down.

[Anonymous No.3474686]

>>3455541
I'd play it if I still had a laptop/gaming PC my nigga. You made it look really good from the trailer btw lol

[Anonymous No.3474808]

>>3474686

I'd say something about how Duke Nukem 3D runs ojn toasters but considering the remake has higher system requirements than Crysis (not joking, look it up) I guess you're just shit out of luck.

[Anonymous No.3474821]

>>3474808
he's talking about SW m8. that shit wont run well on my gf's macbook or my smart phone no matter what, especially custom maps

[Anonymous No.3474847]

https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/772294044063895553

Just fuck you, Randy.

[Anonymous No.3474849]

>>3474847
What a scumbag.

I wonder just how sad he is if this is how he leads his professional life.

[Anonymous No.3474854]

>>3474847
>those aren't 20 years old yet ;)

[Anonymous No.3474858]

>>3474847
Piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.3474883]

>>3474353
That new Duketalk sounds so stupid. The old scream of agony was much better.

[Anonymous No.3474890]

>>3474847
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What the fuck man? Megaton Edition had those included by default! BY DEFAULT!

Also
>ShodanFreeman
I saw that guy in the gearbox stream chat, what a small world.

[Anonymous No.3474903]

>>3474847
He will release them as DLC, $4.99 per expansion, you'll see :^)

[Anonymous No.3474915]

>>3474847

Don't get him too mad on Twitter, he might get on stage at the next PAX and sing a song about how butthurt he is

[Anonymous No.3474917]

>>3474903
>Duke It Out In DLC

[Anonymous No.3474923]

>>3474847
>You want the complete experience that was up before? Fuck you, you don't get it!

[Anonymous No.3474926]

>>3474917
DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.3474927]

>>3474917
*shiver*

[Anonymous No.3474934]

>>3455541
I just played your map. It was pretty cool! Liked the openish layout and how there was a bunch of stuff to find in the water, definitely a very "3D" feeling level. I played in Redux on the hardest difficulty and thought the health/ammo balance was just about right.

The only part I didn't like was that battle in the field with the turret and trenches and all the guys spawning in. I'm not the biggest fan of SW to begin with (compared to Duke and Blood), and that part just rammed home how I find the enemies annoying, especially with their ducking behaviors.

[Anonymous No.3474936]

>>3474917

First time I have laughed all day, thank you.

Honestly it doesn't matter, the new episode will get uploaded and you'll be able to download it and play it in eDuke and there will literally be no reason to buy this (especially not at $20) unless you absolutely have to have Dook on your PS4 or something.

Everyone who isn't a dumbshit is just going to either pirate it or wait until it's $7 in a Humble Bundle in two months next to Battleborn again.

[Anonymous No.3474938]

>>3474917
>Duke it out in DC, sold as DLC, for PC. It will make you pee. If you buy it on humble bundle, you'll get a download key.

[Anonymous No.3474941]

>>3474938
>Blow it out your season pass.

[Anonymous No.3474945]

>>3474934
>especially with their ducking behaviors.
lol enemies duck in blood too u goofball

[Anonymous No.3474962]

>>3471289
Probably because companies only test on the weakest modern shit they have around and call it good.

[Anonymous No.3474969]

>>3474917
>>3474941
fuck you assholes for making me laugh at this

[Anonymous No.3474989]

>>3474917
Kekkaroney

[Anonymous No.3475005]

>playing Duke Nukem 3D: World Tour
>graphics look old as shiiiit, but whatever
>Duke Nukem 3D says "BAZINGA!"
>I laugh so hard I spit Mountain Dew all over my Alienware computer

[Anonymous No.3475014]

>>3475005

> Midget Duke Nukem angrily dual wielding shotguns

Remember when videogame ads used to be based?

[Anonymous No.3475036]

Here's some fresh OC, enjoy.

[Anonymous No.3475040]

>>3475036
What's his name again?

[Anonymous No.3475050]

>>3475040
Bartholomew Zinger

[Anonymous No.3475062]

>>3475005
Maybe you shouldn't try being funny anymore, pal.

[Anonymous No.3475145]

>>3474945
It's totally different. Cultists only duck in Blood at a reaction to your fire, and it's usually to your advantage because you're effectively stunning them for a bit so it can be a good strategy to pepper them in groups to keep them from all shooting you at once.

Not even comparable to the way those dickbags in Shadow Warrior pop up and down behind boxes and crouch down to avoid your rockets. Fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.3475468]

>>3475014
>Remember when videogame ads used to be based?
>based

Not you.

[Anonymous No.3475471]

>>3475468
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.3475485]

>>3474808
>higher system requirements than Crysis
I love this.

[Anonymous No.3475547]

>>3475485
Not him, but it really pisses me off when games that don't look like Crysis and should be less CPU taxing than something like Crysis or even Half Life in that matter end up being more taxing than Crysis. I want to bet it's because of the shitty programming libraries devs use, or the fact that Duke 3D is forever cursed to never have a well optimized source port. Megaton collection crashes at various points, Eduke32 uses 15% of my CPU at the fucking title menu, not to mention Polymer is bloated as all fuck. It's so weird how Doom gets Zandronum, which uses practically nothing of my CPU in OpenGL and everything, along with various other homeports, yet Duke just has EDuke32.

God damn, fuck modern PC game devs and their shitty programming and attitude of "What the fuck is Optimization?"

[Anonymous No.3475578]

>>3453748
Its out in october fuck head

[Anonymous No.3475582]

>>3475578
mind the FUCKINNNNNNNNNG language

[Anonymous No.3475597]

>>3475578
>It's going to come out all buggy and unoptimized and tank everyone's computer because Randy's too lazy to fix it
>All the reviews are going to be "This is a game from 20 years ago, it shouldn't be doing this"
>Randy won't care
>That is until all the loss of sales as everyone just pirates Megaton pack with eduke32 and expansions.
>Randy will just be begging for money.

[Anonymous No.3475605]

>>3475597
Randy "The Rat" Pitchford should just kill himself.

[Anonymous No.3475620]

just pirate it
>they are deliberately fucking up duke because he is a sexist mysoginyst shitlord.

>Instead of "shake it baby" you'll have Duke do a woman in a suits taxes as she abuses you for being a beta male.

>welcome to the new Duke Nukem.

[Anonymous No.3475635]

>>3475620
>DN3D: 20th anniversary edition is going to be an even more censored version of the N64 port.

[Anonymous No.3475645]

>>3475014
Based on what?

[Anonymous No.3475647]

>>3475620
Instead of
>mmh, mmh, mmh
>where is it?

You'll get
>knock, knock, knock
>Penny

[Anonymous No.3475651]

>>3475620
It's going to be easy to pirate too

[Anonymous No.3475656]

>>3475620
Randy is actually quite the SJW, heck he did a whole proud to be beta male/nu-male song at the beginning of the stream

Pirate Duke

[Anonymous No.3475659]

>>3475656
NOBODY LIKES TALKING TO A DRUNK

UNLESS THEY'RE BUYIN'

[Anonymous No.3475668]

>>3475620
He said "shake it baby" in the trailer though.

[Anonymous No.3475676]

This image came to me as I was reading this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8imLWbEWx8

[Anonymous No.3475680]

>>3475676
>>3458584

[Anonymous No.3475683]

>>3475680
OK so i wasnt the only one.

[Anonymous No.3475714]

>>3475656
>he did a whole proud to be beta male/nu-male song
He...

He didn't actually really do that, did he?

[Anonymous No.3475717]

>>3475714
how low can one go, right?

[Anonymous No.3475731]

>>3475005
I'm still mad the granny didn't also wear a tanktop

[Anonymous No.3475735]

>>3453748
>>3453751
>>3453752
but anon, is it fun?

[Anonymous No.3475758]

>>3475735
No

[Anonymous No.3475768]

>>3475547
>Polymer is bloated as all fuck
This is true, but I hardly see how that makes EDuke32 a poorly optimized source port. The new features that they've hacked into the engine are poorly optimized, but if you want to play vanilla-ish Duke, you can get your 1000+fps just fine.

There are GZDoom wads that bog shit down with effects overload, too.

[Anonymous No.3475807]

>>3475547
Use software mode familiams. Polymer and Polymost have z-fighting issues and Polymer has no shadows for enemies for me

[Anonymous No.3475835]

>>3475714
fuck off nambona

[Anonymous No.3475839]

>>3475668
He's trolling, don't give it attention.

[Anonymous No.3475843]

>>3475835
But I'm not that terrycuck

[NESfag No.3475927]

>>3475145
Crouching for Cultists in Blood is part of their natural AI behaviour.

In Shadow Warrior, ninjas only crouch when the mapper wanted them to. They're like a Ninja variant, the crouching variant, that will only do these crouching/crawling behaviour until he's dead.

FUN FACT : You know how coloured ninjas can fire grenades/rockets? Well crouching coloured ninjas don't, but they still retain the extra HP of the coloured ninja variants. I had never realized that before until I made my own map and read about it in a tutorial.

Thanks to those who played my SW map.

[Anonymous No.3475984]

>>3474808
EDuke32 runs surprisingly well on toasters. I was playing it just fine on Asus ReeePC with dualcore 1.86 Ghz celeron with Intel HD 4000, even with polymost+lighting. Polymer runs like shit though.

[Anonymous No.3476004]

>>3474936

I'm going to pirate the new episode because fuck Pitchford and Gearbox.

[Anonymous No.3476196]

>>3456489
like we WOULD get something new for Blood
it would suck since it wouldn't even have the og caleb voice or hooded guys screaming in korean (which is what i thought back in the day)

[Anonymous No.3476208]

>>3476196
>since it wouldn't even have the og caleb voice or
If they wanted to do a blood sequel or remake there's no reason they wouldn't have access to Stephen weyte. Dude is still around, recently did the voice for some movie called FPS. Apparently he did the cultist voices too btw.

[NESfag No.3476239]

>>3476196
>like we WOULD get something new for Blood
Jace Hall teased this 2 months ago.

>"Sitting here with OG game designer Nick Newhard discussing secrets.. U do the math. #iLiveAgain"

His facebook post claims that he was with Matt Saettler, Kilstorm and Newhard. Saettler is likely person to have the sourcecode.

[Anonymous No.3476392]

>millenial reviewers play Duke like call of duty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASYRgHcNXVo

CRINGE

[Anonymous No.3476395]

>>3476392
>starts walking backwards, randomly taking steroids and using the rpg for everything
WHERE DA WAYPOINTS AT WHERE DA WAYPOINTS AT

[Anonymous No.3476462]

>>3467625
It's 2016. Anyone that hates it will keep quiet because they don't want to rock the boat with the HR girls and PoC.

Imagine working in a tech company: all day long people are saying you're just like Sheldon XDDDD and you can't punch them.

[Anonymous No.3476497]

>>3476392
>runs straight at enemies
>doesn't use strafe buttons

[Anonymous No.3476521]

>>3476497
JUST

[Anonymous No.3476550]

>>3454642
>Blow it up my ass!
>It's time to eat ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of gum.
>So many gays... so little time.

[NESfag No.3476562]

>>3476550
There is already a mod called Hard G.

>>3476392
And don't forget, they're being paid to do that.

[Anonymous No.3476579]

>>3476392
>that moment where he's this close to finishing the level
>he falls off the walkway

[Anonymous No.3476620]

This makes me want to play Duke with EDuke32. Thanks Randy!

[Anonymous No.3476631]

>>3476392
>3:18
What a waste of steroids

[Anonymous No.3476664]

>>3476631

Not like Steroids are all that useful unless you're speedrunning or doing a gimmick "kick everything" run. :')

[Anonymous No.3476869]

>>3454642
In all fairness, I think Duke actually would object to aliens stealing our dicks.

[Anonymous No.3477189]

>>3476392
If he's a millenial he should have played Duke Nukem growing up

[Anonymous No.3477256]

>>3477189
Millenial defines a person born as early as 1980, so if he had any interest in PC gaming or first person shooters, Duke 3D would be one of those must plays.

[Anonymous No.3477427]

>>3476392
>Pills on med kits
WHY!? I fucking hate this shit! Fuck you red cross! Medkits should have a cross on them. Having pills on them just doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.3477446]

>>3477427

Most medical kits have a green cross on them. Can't they use that ? I get that red is generally associated with healing and green with poison but... Pills just look weird.

[Anonymous No.3477453]

3D Realms should revive some of their old characters now that their baby (Duke) has been taken away from them. I would love to see Bio Menace and Alien Carnage return. Bio Menace especially; the main character is a CIA agent named Snake Logan, motherfucking Snake Logan! That is one badass 90s action hero name.

[Anonymous No.3477459]

>>3477446
>>3477427

[Anonymous No.3477502]

>>3477453
John Passfield still owns the rights to the Halloween Harry franchise, so it's not likely 3D Realms will be making a new game out of that anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.3477510]

>>3476392
Watching this reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZ3cMXxwOk

[Anonymous No.3477998]

>>3477453

Biomenace is legit my favorite PC game of all time.

Plus, Snake Logan makes the lady nips rock hard.

[Anonymous No.3478015]

>>3477453
Neat, looks like we're roughly on the same page about this...
: >>3455413

[Anonymous No.3478027]

Gearbox could learn a lot from Nightdive and their Strife remake re: lighting.

[Anonymous No.3478039]

>>3478027
Add excessive bloom and bad shadows?

[Anonymous No.3478045]

>>3478039
And options to turn all that fuckin' shit off.

[Anonymous No.3478049]

>>3478027
That's a really bad example, seriously.

[Anonymous No.3478176]

>>3478049
Show me a good example.

[Anonymous No.3478257]

>>3477998
its free on gog.com I used to have the shareware episode on my 286 and loved it

[Anonymous No.3478362]

oh the made the original shadow warrior free on gog now too

[Anonymous No.3479063]

>>3478362
Fuck I just bought it in the last sale

[Anonymous No.3479073]

>>3479063
Dammit anon, one job, ONE JOB

[Anonymous No.3479674]

>>3479063
no worries lad, I'm pretty sure the money goes to devolver now though since they own 3dr

[Anonymous No.3479817]

>yfw Doug Huggem became reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGu4zQgTvg

[Anonymous No.3479830]

>>3458461
>I believe he also did the voice in Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.
Not according to IMDB

[Anonymous No.3479849]

>>3479830
>David K. Manuel - Additional Voices (voice) (as Dave Manuel)

I'm not sure, but didn't they re-use most of the JSJ duketalk from DN3D, and then add some new with David Manuel? Duke Manhattan was a budget game so it could be very possible that Manuel was cheaper than JSJ.

[Anonymous No.3479868]

>uses shady business loopholes to steal someone else's work because he has a studio to save after his other shady schemes have failed
>publicly mocks the people who are angered over this
>calls others bullies for calling him out

[Anonymous No.3479870]

>>3474146
>>3476392

>none of these chumps use the quick mighty boot

fucking faggots, is it even in this version of Duke 3D?

Did they remove the ability to kick with both feet?

[Anonymous No.3479889]

>tfw still haven't made a single Duke Nukem 3D map after all these years of playing the living shit out of Douk

When I was a kid and went to vacations with my parents, I used to imagine what the locations would look like as Duke Nukem 3D levels. After almost 20 years I haven't made a one goddamn map.

[Anonymous No.3479897]

>>3479674
I do like Devolver a hell of a lot more than I like Gearbox.

Probably because I've never felt cheated and betrayed by Devolver. HEAR THAT RANDY?

[Anonymous No.3479909]

>>3479870
>Did they remove the ability to kick with both feet?
It was removed from original with patches.

[Anonymous No.3479917]

>>3479817
I've been thinking about this a lot mainly because JSJ puts way more effort into a minute and a half joke video than he did returning to Duke 3D. Just makes me wonder what the hell Gearbox did to make him so tired cause he seems like he loves voicing Duke still.

[Anonymous No.3479921]

>>3479917
JSJ is probably the biggest Duke fan himself, so he's probably pissed off just like most oldschool Duke fans are. He's probably part of the Duke contract and has no choice but to voice act or get sued.

[Anonymous No.3479975]

>>3479921
>JSJ is probably the biggest Duke fan himself
Well it's a really fun and recognizable character (as well as an outrageous one) that a lot of people love and have come to be one of the icons of gaming, his voice is really what makes that magic work too, any performer would be proud of something like that.

I mean, regardless of how bad DNF actually was, he saw people wait expectantly way over a decade for it to actually come, people REALLY wanted to see his character again still, for all that time, and even after the critical flop, I don't think people hold any real ill will against Duke as a character, more just the game itself as a whole, and that really tells you something about a performance (and obviously of the quality of game that performance was originally part of).

I mean, I still want another Duke Nukem, as do many others, but Gearbox isn't exactly treating the property with respect, which is where I feel one of the big problem lies. Listening to his line readings for the rerecordings, I sort of get the feeling that he has a pessimistic attitude towards the future of Duke Nukem as a character and game franchise, draining him of his usual enthusiasm and spirits.

[Anonymous No.3480012]

So why exactly did they replace the medkits with 'pillboxes'? I'm assuming it's an obvious censorship matter, but it bugs me when I see them. It looks much shittier in my opinion seeing it like that. I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.3480019]

>>3480012
Red Cross got a hair up their ass.

[Anonymous No.3480037]

>>3480012
Red cross went absolutely anal a couple years ago and demanded that from now on, every single med kit in games shouldn't have a red plus, but a red and white pill.

[Anonymous No.3480095]

>>3480037
It wasn't specifically demanded that it was a pill, just that it wasn't the red cross on the white background.

[Anonymous No.3480274]

>>3480012
Red Cross finally caught on that video games for like the last thirty or so years have been using their symbol.

[Anonymous No.3480283]

>>3480037
>>3480095
>>3480274

What the fuck, they copyrighted a red cross symbol?

[Anonymous No.3480287]

>>3480283
It was always their symbol, it's just so many people use it without permission that it became a common misconception it's public domain. Don't know why they just now suddenly started cracking down on it though.

[Anonymous No.3480298]

>>3480287
I thought the excuse people used for enforcing trademarks and copyrights like that was because if you didn't, you lose it. Why didn't they lose it?

[Anonymous No.3480305]

>>3480298
Maybe that's why they started enforcing it lately. Their site gives some description about not wanting it depicted in violent media(mainly games) so they started cracking down really hard to prevent that happening in the future if they lost it.

[Anonymous No.3480312]

>>3480305
But they should have already lost it then.

[Anonymous No.3480316]

>>3480312
I think I phrased my response wrong. What I'm trying to say is they started cracking down hard on it because they thought they were on the verge of losing it, I'm not defending them or anything this is just the only reason I can see them suddenly being so harsh about its usage.

[Anonymous No.3480327]

>>3480298
>>3480287
Isn't there laws and stuff about genericized trademarks and shit?

You'd think that would be relevant to this case.
I mean, it's their symbol, obviously, so they do have the rights to it, but still.

[Anonymous No.3480452]

>>3480327
EDGE was trademarked until recently. The guy who owned the trademark was a huge cunt about it too, going after anyone who dare uses "EDGE" in the title of anything and then intentionally screwing over people because of it. The phrase "Thank you" is also trademarked apparently, by some phone company (forgot whether it was sprint or verizon).

[Anonymous No.3480454]

>>3480452
Found out it was citi who trademarked "Thank you" or something like that, or at least tried.

You'd think there would be laws about this, especially since it causes a shit storm everytime, but no.

[Anonymous No.3480536]

>>3454051

Is it "Megaton Edition"

That's the one I have.

[Anonymous No.3480545]

>>3455919
>bought DNF at retail preordered paid full modern price and everything

>bought all the DLC's

>Expected shitty meme-level toilet humor wrapped around a buggy, bog-standard engine

>Got exactly that

>Even got a 2Fort variant map in it

I liked DNF. I think it's biggest issue is what will also plague Half-Life 3. People expected the second coming, completely forgetting the original games weren't all that good technology-wise or story-wise and were just dumb fun.

In the Duke3d days, we had QUAKE. Quake was the gold standard for technology and atmosphere. Duke was what you played when you wanted dick jokes and tig ol' bitties.

[Anonymous No.3480552]

>>3457984
this is Douk, it'd be mroe like.

>Douk kills a pig cop.
>"Shit, I didn't want Skittles anyways."

>Douk kills an enemy with a dildo
>"You think that's impressive, wait until you see the real thing!"

>Douk kills every single pig cop
>New pig cops spawn elsewhere on map

[Anonymous No.3480554]

>>3480545
>duke3d
>not all that good technology wise
Yeah fuck off faggot. Build engine was very advanced for a "2.5D" engine and had a lot of clever level design. You're trying to tell me Half-Life was "just dumb fun" too?

[Anonymous No.3480587]

Anyone got an hiv-free link for Megaton Edition?

[Anonymous No.3480602]

>>3458981
>Blow it in my ass

[Anonymous No.3480604]

>>3480545
I expected DNF to be a sequel to DN3D. What I got was more akin to Half-life and Halo, just with Duke Nukem thrown in.

[Anonymous No.3480606]

>>3480454
>>3480452
Thing with trademarks is that they're context sensitive, what gives you exclusivity in one field will not give you exclusivity in another.

You can trademark a phrase for marketing purposes in a particular field, but that doesn't give you exclusive rights to that phrase in any and all contexts.

Even if you were to successfully trademark the phrase "Thank you" as a phone company, that would only apply in the business of telephony, so you couldn't sue or Cease & Desist just any person using the phrase "Thank you"

[Anonymous No.3480614]

So how bad is Gearbox fucking Douk aside from the fucked lines and graphics? Did they take out the strippers/babes?

[Anonymous No.3480617]

>>3480545
The final build of Duke Nukem Forever was genuinely a fucking atrocity though, on top of people holding their breath for 14 years waiting for it to finally release.

If it had been just mediocre, I don't think people would have been even close to as mad.

Half-Life Ep3 turning out like Duke Nukem Forever hinges on how the development looks, because the development of Duke Nukem Forever was a genuine shitshow, SO many blunders and errors and bad decisions, one of the big ones was desperately trying to keep up with current technology and constantly falling behind, the game really should have been finished and released before, or at, the year 2000, after that, I think it was too late and the mess had just compounded too much.

If Ep3 has even been developed for all this time is questionable, they may have writing, level layouts and resources available, but put the project on ice, then waiting for whenever they feel is appropriate to actually do a proper development and get the game released, assuming Valve has even been working on Ep3 at all and not just forgotten about it.

Also, though the Build Engine that was used for Duke was certainly janky, it was very advanced and traded graphic fidelity (true 3D) for speed and quantity, the levels in DN3D are all rather detailed and populated, enemies are plentiful, there's miscellaneous items everywhere, beer bottles, coffer brewers, trashcans, chairs and computers, vending machines and what have you.

Compare to the rivaling Quake of the same time, which had more advanced graphics, but also a more barren and less detailed world because of the limitations of that, less enemies, less effects, less doodads and objects.

Duke was advanced in it's own way and was impressive still for how well made it actually was for the way it rendered.

[Anonymous No.3480620]

>>3480604
I don't know about Halo, but it's really nothing like Half-Life, because Half-Life lets you carry all your weapons, lots of ammo, you had to find health and the game rewarded exploration (with health, ammo and weapons), as well as having more than one type of enemy encounter (closing arenas where enemies slowly come in).

[Anonymous No.3480621]

>>3480554

Nope.

Half-Life was fun, innovative, and engaging. And the technology was, at the time, mindblowing.

Half-Life 2 introduced facial expressions and realistic reactions with them. And making the environment HUGE using linked maps and clever skyboxes didn't hurt either. All the while keeping up the excellent story Half-Life 1 started.

Half-Life 3 is going to need to have a monumental leap forward in order to keep up with the hype that builds for it every single day or it will suffer the same fate DNF did, where "more of the same" isn't enough and everyone gets pissy.

and yeah. Duke3d was great fora 2.5D shooter. It was one of the best... In a world that had just been given it's first 3D shooter and on the cusp of a "3D is the future!" bandwagon. Face it, DOUK wasn't TECHNOLOGY incarnate. But it WAS damn good fun.

[Anonymous No.3480625]

>>3480621
>suffer the same fate DNF did, where "more of the same" isn't enough and everyone gets pissy.
Except DNF was a really shitty game and not at all as good as DN3D, it's not at all "more of the same".

[Anonymous No.3480631]

>>3480621
Quake is 2 years older than Descent which was fully 3D and 4 years older than Ultima Underworld which had 3D environments.

[Anonymous No.3480647]

>>3480620
Hmm, yeah true. I still stand by my Halo comment, though.

[Anonymous No.3480658]

>>3480617
DNF suffered through pretty bad level design that was trying hard to be Half life 2, to the point where it does feel like a game from the 2005-2008 era of "We want to be like HL2" shooters where the whole game has to be one pathway and have obligatory Vehicle and torrent section. It was pretty obvious that Gearbox just took what was essentially a 2007 build of the game, touched it up a bit, and put it up for release (Which is pretty much the true story). The biggest sin I feel though is the lack of modding capabilities, Duke 3D essentially had this out of the box, and it made for one of the best modding communities of all time. DNF's Campaign did have a bit of neat sections with interactive environments that would have been pretty cool to experiment with in a map editor, but alas Gearbox didn't want that. It really is a shame, as meh as DNF's Singleplayer campaign is, a good modding community could have done wonders with what was there, maybe make a full on casino, maybe do straight up remakes of DN3D's levels, or very nice contemporary city levels with interactive environments and exploration based level design, but Gearbox wanted none of that, so after the whole bitter taste left our mouths, no one ever really spoke of DNF ever again.

Had a modding community been given a spark, it probably wouldn't have completely redeemed the game, but it would make it good enough where it would be one of those "Shitty game, but modding community makes it worth the price of entry" products, and made the game still relevant today, but as it stands, it's just going to be known as a huge disappointment forever.

Fuck you Gearbox.

[NESfag No.3480767]

>>3479889
This will help
http://infosuite.duke4.net/
http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Level_editing

>in the Duke3d days, we had QUAKE.

Quake came out 6 months after DN3D. That's a lot, ESPECIALLY for PC gaming in that period. If you check stuff 6 months older than Quake, you'll be surprised too.

Also, DN3D does a lot of stuff that Quake doesn't. What he said >>3480617

[Anonymous No.3480783]

>>3480614
>Did they take out the strippers/babes?
They'll probably replace them with male or trans strippers.

>Check it baby!
>stripper flashes his pierced dick

[Anonymous No.3480825]

>>3480012
Goddamn, why not just replace the cross with big red H? It's close to the red cross, and obviously indicates health. What would pills even do against gun wounds? Wouldn't a first-aid kit with bandages and stitches make more sense?

[Anonymous No.3480829]

>>3480545
If Duke Nukem Forever played like Duke 3D with big well thought out maze-like levels, secrets, no hand-holding, no-regenerating health etc. just a DN3D with modern engine, it would had been great. The problem with Duke 3D was that it didn't follow up to Duke 3D. The only thing common with DN3D and DNF is that they're both first person shooters.

I wish Gearbox had given us the modding tools, we could be playing Duke Nukem 3D on Duke Forever's engine right now. (not that DNF engine is any good, but having custom levels would at least make it worth to play DNF again every now and then)

[NESfag No.3480831]

I really can't decide whether I'll be buying this or not.

The cons:
- Fucking Gearbox and the way they handled this version. I don't want them to give them my money.
- Shitty sound quality, redone Duke lines that sound worse, and censored healthkits. Can be patched though.
- Lot's of the new art are of bad quality and look out of place

The pros:
- I can play in the original 2.5D renderer and don't have to deal with the lights and post processing. Even Megaton wouldn't let you play with the original renderer
- New levels by the original level designers, with new musics by the original composer and new JSJ Duke lines. After 20 years, that sounds like a dream come true.
- Workshop support. My maps got an INSANE amount of download on Megaton's workshop and it could be the same here. I also contributed to upload lot's of quality maps by other mappers I love on Megaton's workshop among the tons of shovelware map, and someone's got to do that too for this new version. Due to how the workshop rating works, for better visibility you have to upload the maps as early as possible. Then agian is it worth it if most people play it with shitty lights and post processing not made for those maps?

I also feel shared about the price. On one hand, 20€ is a lot compared to Megaton, also considering this doesn't have the add-ons.
On the other hand, I am very confident this is about the equivalent price of something like Plutonium Pack and Caribbean Life back in the day. Had Megaton come out with a 10-20 bucks DLC consisting of a 8 new levels episode by the original level designers and music composer, I would have bought it right away.

wat do?! Piracy is not an option, can't upload workshop maps that way.

[Anonymous No.3480836]

>>3480831
Move on to Redneck Rampage.

[Anonymous No.3480842]

>>3480825
>hentai to relieve pain

[Anonymous No.3480847]

>>3480842

[Anonymous No.3480848]

>>3480831
>tfw you still run XP on a toaster so couldn't play the new release even if you wanted

I'll just wait for the eduke32 guys to port the maps and new enemy behaviors, even if it means using stock tiles and dethtoll.mid, and I'm not giving gearbox money in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.3480850]

>>3480825
>replace the cross with big red H
I wouldn't pick that up, there's probably hornets inside

[Anonymous No.3480859]

>>3480831
Personally I'll just wait for a sale and eventual updates that include the add-ons. I also want to see if the douk community moves to that version because if nothing is posted in the workshop then what's the point?

[Anonymous No.3480860]

>>3480831
What maps did you make on megaton workshop?

[NESfag No.3480869]

>>3480848
>I'll just wait for the eduke32 guys to port the maps and new enemy behaviors

The EDuke32 devs aren't going to port anything themselves. The main dev of EDuke32 worked as a consultant on this for Gearbox.

But don't worry, other people will, and it shouldn't be a legal problem just like it's not a legal problem to play DN3D in EDuke32 as long as you have the game's files. There is also no reason why the new textures, sounds, musics, and code for the new episode wouldn't work with EDuke32. I'm sure most of it will work as is, and the rest could be converted faithfully.

I hope someone fixes all the visual issues we see in the new art, but that, is less likely.

>>3480836
I love RR, or rather, I love RR:RA and Route66; but come on, that stuff is dead, or maybe you were being ironical. Maybe one day I'll make a small map for RR:RA even though I know noone will ever play it, but not before I make one for Blood and finish another current project on another Build game.

[NESfag No.3480875]

>>3480860
Sin Center (with the help of another mapper), Sex City, Galbadia (with 3 other mappers) and deathmatch maps Canyon Bunker and Atomic Bunker. First two maps are the first two "top rated all time" on Megaton's workshop but it's mostly due to the fact I uploaded them early and due to how the workshop's rating and visibility system works. Also I guess sex sells. I don't claim these to be the best maps ever, I can't play Sin Center myself anymore, I only see its glaring noob flaws. I also made other maps which aren't on the workshop because they were made to be part of episodes for EDuke32.
I also uploaded plenty maps on Megaton's workshop, which is what I think is the most important. Most people in the community didn't bother, but I think it's important to give visibility to good maps. If nobody does it, only the sholverware stuff (which is plentiful on the worskhop) will get visibility

>>3480869
>The EDuke32 devs aren't going to port anything themselves. The main dev of EDuke32 worked as a consultant on this for Gearbox.

Forgot to mention, I'm talking out of my ass here, I'm just assuming .

[Anonymous No.3481330]

>>3474847
What a fucking asshole!

[Anonymous No.3481332]

According to wikiquote, Duke supposedly says
>Mess with the best, you will die like the rest
in Duke Nukem 3D, which is a reference to movie Hackers (1995), but I don't recall Duke ever saying that in DN3D. I don't think I recall Duke ever saying that.

Did he really say that, or did someone fuck up the quotes?

[NESfag No.3481339]

>>3481332
Doesn't exist, at least not in DN3D. Maybe in another Duke game though.

here is the list of all the DN3D game sounds, including Duke quotes

http://infosuite.duke4.net/index.php?page=references_sound_list

[Anonymous No.3482182]

>>3476392
What the fuck is wrong with Duke's voice?

[Anonymous No.3482208]

>>3482182
Imagine being the voice actor for one of the most iconic video game badasses. Now imagine being told to "tone it down" and "be more politically correct". You'd be depressed too.

[Anonymous No.3482218]

>>3482208
>implying it isn't because he does NOT want anything to do with Gearbox or Bitchford

[Anonymous No.3482226]

>>3480545
>People expected the second coming

No they just expected a game that wasn't fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.3482232]

>>3482226
I was expecting it to be garbage but in a so-bad-it's-good kind of way. Forever was just painfully mediocre.

[Anonymous No.3482264]

>>3480614
The audio is also fucked in general. The two gameplay videos from PAX had this really muffled sound for everything. Randy is claiming this version of Duke was never meant to replace Megaton Edition and the $20 is really for the new episode not for Duke 3D itself which is just a freebie that comes with it. Personally I don't buy it considering he could've always looked into getting some deal with Devolver Digital(the guys who published Megaton) to have the new episode be DLC for it instead of removing the better, cheaper and more content filled alternative. Really fucking doubt Devolver would turn something like that down either since they actually seem to give a shit about their customers unlike Gearbox.

[Anonymous No.3482802]

>>3482264
It's just Randy Bitchford being a powertripping asshole.

[NESfag No.3482862]

>>3482264
I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Gearbox took it down without discussion, and also that the devs didn't get their part of money for the last couple of months sales because Gearbox kept it. I could be remembering wrong though, and the thread were this was discussed is now hidden.

As for Megaton being a better alternative, this remains to be proven. I liked and respected Megaton for what it was, I even wanted to contribute, but it has some huge flaws or lacking in some aspects, some of which we can already guess is not the case in World Tour.

For instance in Megaton you couldn't use the original 2.5D renderer. It's not really Build without it. In World Tour, you can.
Megaton didn't have true widescreen support (it's a zoom in), World Tour seems to have that.
Also Megaton's online had a lot of latency, and we can hope this one has better online.
Finally Megaton was full of glitches. Not only already existing glitches became a LOT easier to pull but it also introduced new ones. There is a reason why speedrunners use Megaton (just look at the speedrun.com page...) but if you ask me those aren't real DN3D speedruns, they're Megaton speedruns. Most of the stuff pulled in those speedruns couldn't be pulled so consistantly in the original game, if at all, and it gave a bad rep to the game, those speedrun have become quite famous after being seen in charity liveruns and I've heard people claim "DN3D is a glitchy mess" when it is in fact Megaton they're thinking about.
I don't believe the new port can be as bad in that regard, but who knows what else Nerve software fucked up.

[Anonymous No.3482974]

>>3482862
>For instance in Megaton you couldn't use the original 2.5D renderer. It's not really Build without it. In World Tour, you can.

Megaton edition can be launched in "classic" mode from the splash menu that lets you select which Douk expansion you play. Yeah you can't switch it during the game like you can with World Tour, but still.

[Anonymous No.3482979]

>>3456489
Where's muh Gloom anniversary edition?

[NESfag No.3482983]

>>3482974
Yes, but that's launching the original game in DOSbox. It's a nice addition but the whole point of those ports is to avoid doing that.