/mdg/ Metroid General

[Anonymous No.3439012]

how to hate Federation Force with HUGE GUTS Edition

Previous thread: >>3418928

AM2R: Another Metroid 2 Remake and 1.1 Update Link
>http://metroid2remake.blogspot.com/
>Magnet: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1ee2b46502d530f716973a60a2a6f87f21128b61&dn=AM2R%5F11
>http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0SMMVQZK/AM2R_11.zip

Super Metroid: Zero Mission
>http://www.metroid-database.com/reviews/mszm.php

Metroid: Dreadnought aka Metroid DOOM + Suggested maps to play(You will need the latest Gzdoom, Zandronum or Zdoom stable builds to play it, visit Doom general for troubleshooting)
>Metroid Dreadnought: http://www.moddb.com/mods/metroid-dreadnought
>Valiant: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/71704-valiant-wad-now-on-idgames/
>The Island: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35894
>Stardate: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/stardate
>Back to Saturn X 1&2: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69960-back-to-saturn-x-episode-2-public-beta-2-critical-map15-fixes-included/


Metroid Database and Wiki
>http://www.metroid-database.com/
>http://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Gameplay order for new fans
>http://i.imgur.com/7k4UKOy.jpg

[Anonymous No.3439016]

What are the point of playing rom hacks when none will surpass Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.3439017]

Why skip the 1st games?
>Even of the original NES GAME WAS GREAT, Time itself wasn't generous with him, the same goes to metroid 2, which was a Magazine made game thus kept exclusive to GB to increase sells, Both games were great, but Zero Mission and AM2R updated them

Why skip Other M?
>it has a bad plot, a bad gameplay, which is a bad ripoff of god of war and soul reaver 2 and horrible voice acting and bad characterization, if you ask why for any Metroid fan, they will say: They turned samus into a whinny bitch instead of the badass Bounty hunter that she was before, THE BABY THE BABY, ADAM, PTSD's EVERYWHERE, You need permission to use the varia suit, and etc.

Why skip Federation force, if it was released Recently?
>Same as above but the damage made everyone more bitter towards Nintendo, Followed by the Giant middle finger to the fans on the 30th anniversary, the community itself is rather divided atm, but most of them hates the game, and most of the gaming websites are rating the game as mediocre and bad.

Last Question, WHY DOOM 2016, That game inst a metroid game?
>in a strange twist of fate, maybe its the chozo last gift to all fans along with AM2R, The Doom 2016/Doom 4 made almost everyone of the Metroid community rejoice in glee, as the game itself ended up being a Spiritual sequel of Metroid Prime series, which was originally a love letter to the Doom Games, as the Doomguy was created based on Samus, which was confirmed by old id crew itself. Ironically, most of the Doom's new lore mixes both of Metroid and the Classic Doom games lore, Even the Praetor Suit looks something made out of the Varia and Legendary Power Suit, also its origin, thus there's an special easter egg for all metroid fans at VEGA central processing. if you love prime series, thus you're looking for something made with passion for both communities, this game is for you.

[Anon No.3439031]

Protrays women as most women, cycks get mad at alternative reality samus.

[Anonymous No.3439079]

>>3439016
Because they can get damn close.
Hyper Metroid is fucking fantastic.
Same with Z-Factor, and while I wouldn't say it for the original Redesign, the updated "Axiel Edition" is pretty damn good.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3439123]

>>3439017
I have a hacked 3DS and even I don't want to touch Federation Force.

[Anonymous No.3439125]

>>3439016
I like AM2R better to be honest

[Anonymous No.3439225]

>>3439125

Metroid 2 is virtually unplayable nowadays, unless you have a lot of patience

[Anonymous No.3439230]

Can this be skipped?

[Anonymous No.3439250]

>>3439230

come back later when you get speed booster and screw attack

[Anonymous No.3439251]

>>3439250
The speed booster is just in two rooms over, I'm asking if the upgrade can be skipped

[Anonymous No.3439283]

What in the...?

A Metroid general styled after the Doom general? "Doom 4 is a Metroid game"?

This is surreal. Am I dreaming?

[Anonymous No.3439303]

>>3439283

nope, you're not :)

now we need someone to post the prime manga, and the best hack lists for SM, zero mission and Fusion

[Anonymous No.3439306]

>>3439303
Wait, Zero Mission and Fusion and Prime aren't retro.

Wait, Doom? Huh?

[Anonymous No.3439317]

>>3439306
>Why skip the 1st games?
>>Even if the original NES GAME WAS GREAT, Time itself wasn't generous with him, the same goes to metroid 2, which was a Magazine made game thus kept exclusive to GB to increase sells, Both games were great, but Zero Mission and AM2R updated them

[Anonymous No.3439324]

>>3439306
Yeah, this Metroid General is already shit.

[Anon No.3439349]

>>3439317
Nes metroid is great.

[Anonymous No.3439350]

>/vr/ creates a organized metroid general after years
>/vr/ creates a general guide for new players too as doom general does it all time
>/v/ comes to shitpost and say that AM2R, romhack and general is bad and everyone should play Metroid 2 on GB with bad controls and dated gameplay that makes even the most retro player cringe in hatred
>/v/ also hates Metroid Prime but praises Federation Force
>The circlejerk bait continues until the janitor shows up and bans the samefags from /v/ as they do on /vg/

just another fine day here on 4chan

[Anonymous No.3439357]

>>3439225
Where does this meme come from? It fixes the annoying energy farming by giving you life recharching spots, and the layouts are still simple enough for you to map your way through the game. I'm enjoying it a lot more than 1, it actually feels like some sort of proto Super Metroid.

[Anonymous No.3439358]

>Skip Metroid 1 and 2
Hell no, the originals are great.

[Anonymous No.3439371]

>>3439350
None of that has happened.

It's weird that half of the OP is about Doom.

[Anonymous No.3439398]

>>3439303
Super:
Cliffhanger
Darkholme Hospital
Dependence
Eris
Escape II
Golden Dawn
Hyper Metroid
Ice Metal: Uninstall
Limit
Legacy
Mockingbird Station
Oxide
Phazon Hack
Project Base
Redesign: Axiel Edition
Rewind
Revolution EX
Super Zero Mission
Wet Dream Extended
Z-Factor

There aren't any good hacks for Zero Mission and Fusion.
You can find everything at Metroid Construction: http://www.metroidconstruction.com/

[Anonymous No.3439405]

[Anonymous No.3439410]

>>3439016
Some are pretty good. Gives you the similar "where the hell am I and where do I go?" feeling that Metroid 3 did. New maps, sometimes new physics, and new gameplay. Maybe you could try some of them out and actually play a game or two before asking what's the point and being a no-fun nigger. Just saying.

[Anonymous No.3439414]

>>3439017
>Time itself wasn't generous with him

Wut?


Also I didn't know about that doom connection. Never really got into the prime series but that is still pretty fuckin cool.

[Anonymous No.3439417]

>>3439017
>Metroid Prime
>love letter to the Doom games
Nope.

[Anonymous No.3439448]

>>3439324
It would be much better for the board and the thread if you could contribute relevant content instead of being a naysaying no-fun nigger.

[Anonymous No.3439457]

Is there a GNU/Linux ips patch application? I have an XP partition on my netbook but I would rather use an operating system that respects my freedom. ;^)

[Anonymous No.3439474]

>>3439350
AM2R is a fine game, made with love and care.

But to say "avoid the classics" is kind of a crappy mindset.

Also, I'm pretty sure hating Metroid Prime is a sin, but it's NOT RETRO so whatever. Federation Force looks fun.

[Anonymous No.3439476]

>>3439474
>I'm pretty sure hating Metroid Prime is a sin, but it's NOT RETRO
On the contrary...

[Anonymous No.3439493]

>>3439474
Yeah everyone should play the originals. Especially 1 because of the secret worlds. When I found out about that I shat bricks. Everyone thinks Metroid 3 is tbe epitome of eerie and surreal, but the secrets worlds win that hands down imho.

[Anonymous No.3439540]

>>3439476
I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.3439720]

>>3439405
I like how relaxed samus's arm is in fusion

[Anonymous No.3439725]

Why the fuck is this here and not /vg/.
AM2R is not retro.

[Anonymous No.3439728]

>>3439725
it says metroid general that just mentions AM2R, and metroid is /vr/

[Anonymous No.3439729]

>>3439725
>remake of a retro game
>not retro
man, you couldn't BE more wrong

[Anonymous No.3439739]

>>3439725
Wrong, no-fun nigger. Delete this and stop trying to look smart in front of the cool kids.

[Anonymous No.3439834]

So hypothetically, would DM64 be able to release the assets for AM2R so that other people could use them for Metroid homebrew? I have no idea how GM works but could the sprites/scripts/engine be shared easily?

[Anonymous No.3439839]

>>3439405
Zero Mission is so incredibly ugly because of that awful manga artstyle they used. The creator of AM2R did a really good job of mixing the best qualities of Super and ZM sprites together.

[Anonymous No.3439843]

>>3439350
some dumb faggot keep going into /v/ Metroid threads and tells those underage redditors to come here

[Anonymous No.3439850]

>>3439350
>every /v/ metroid thread
>at some point one mouthbreathing retard says /v/ is shit and that everyone that wants REAL metroid discussion should come to /vr/
>every underage reddit /v/ kiddy comes to /vr/ to shitpost

who the fuck does that

[Anonymous No.3439865]

hey hey, it's screenshot saturday

post your dev progress, your wip, bugs, the stuff you've been working on

[Anonymous No.3439929]

Holy shit. Fuck off to /vg/.

[Anonymous No.3440002]

>>3439834
He already stated he won't share the assets, Kind of a prick move.

Is it possible to patch a vanilla Super Metroid rom with both Control Freak's controls patch AND a hack like Super Zero Mission or would that send everything out of whack?

[Anonymous No.3440003]

>>3440002

If memory serves right, Super Zero Mission already has the control freak's patch built in.

You can somersault in the air, shoot/get hurt, hit jump again and continue flipping

[Anonymous No.3440004]

>>3439016
what's the point of living if you know you've already reached your peak and it's all downhill from there

[Anonymous No.3440020]

>>3440003
according to the readme of SZM he indeed changed the jumping mechanics, but I really wanted CF for the ZM/Fusionlike button layout for missiles, and the readme doesn't mention them

[Anonymous No.3440119]

>>3440020


maybe is because SM and SNES cant hold that

its like megaman X3 zero romhack, you can play as zero but you don't have the sword attacks for the bosses weapons, its just a sprite swap

[Anonymous No.3440151]

>>3440004
Who's to say we have reached our peak.

[Anonymous No.3440165]

>>3439729
>remake resident evil 2 for current consoles
Welp, guess we can talk about that here now.

[Anonymous No.3440180]

AM2R attracted the biggest morons to this board, didn't it? Now you get people claiming that Metroid and Metroid 2 are unplayable unless you play remakes and no one calling them out for their bullshit.
Anyway, generals belong on /vg/.

[Anonymous No.3440191]

>>3440180
Oh, get over it. Metroid I and II have aged like milk compared to Super and aren't the timeless classics some people think they are.

[Anonymous No.3440193]

>>3440191
Metroid 1 and 2 are fine games, by telling new players to avoid the originals and play the remakes is a shame. That's a shitty way to go about it.

[Anonymous No.3440196]

>>3440191
Please do us all a favor and go back to /v/. You clearly don't appreciate retro games, so what are you thinking posting on this board?

[Anonymous No.3440198]

>>3440191

They're still important landmarks in Metroid history, as well as the genre as whole.

I wouldn't recommend either for a NEW player though, Zero Mission is an excellent way to gain some bearing on the Metroid franchise and the genre.

Ideally I would say the best order for a new guy to play the Metroid games would be

Zero Mission
Super
Fusion
The Prime trilogy
then dip further back with the original and Metroid 2

All of the Metroid games deserve some love. Even the spinoffs like pinball and hunters.

[Anonymous No.3440208]

>>3440191
They've gotten better since they are no longer limited to shitty displays.

[Anonymous No.3440221]

>>3439350
but I like Metroid 2

[Anonymous No.3440228]

>>3440198
>play Zero Mission first
>canned shinesparks and bad walljumping is okay for a newbie
literally any metroid would be better than zero mission to start

everyone should start with either Metroid or Super Metroid

even Metroid Prime would be a better place to start than zero Mission

[Anonymous No.3440236]

>>3440228

it might be a fluke but I have a friend of mine that was so retarded he got stumped on shooting the super missile blocks to find Kraid's lair.

Zero Mission is borderline retard proof and a good way to ease even the biggest dummies into Metroid, if they like the game, then they can go straight into Super.

[Anonymous No.3440241]

>>3440193
I disagree. The first two Metroid games don't have any substantive merits at this point other than being pioneering titles. That's not really enough to warrant playing them for the sake of retro novelty. I mean, really, why would anyone want to put up with shit like Metroid I's copypasted rooms, shitty password system, or having to start with 30 energy every time you boot up them damn game? And Metroid II's even worse with its half-empty tunnels and repetitive mini-boss fights, despite all the improvements in made in controls and gameplay. They're just not fun games anymore.

[Anonymous No.3440248]

So guys I know this isn't exactly Metroid, but, I think I found the example game that would show how Metroid 64 would of played.

The game itself is called The Divide Enemies Within. You play as a guy in a mech exploration suit waking up hundreds of years after a disaster and now how to survive the new world he is in.

It is a very surreal experience if you're a Metroid fan. I picked up my copy for 2 dollars in mint condition. It is for both the PlayStation 1 and PC. I think there is an article where the devs themselves stated that Super Metroid was their main inspiration for it. Definitely given it a shot.

[Anonymous No.3440279]

>>3439398
>Super Zero Mission
What version of the Super Metroid ROM do I use for this hack?

[Anonymous No.3440303]

>>3440279

the japanese/eng rom supports it


>>3440196
>>3440180

and you /v/fags should stop with the shitposting

if you like it or not, this thread belongs to /vr/

/vg/ its already full of /v/, Reddit and tumblr autistic nintendofags loving other M and Federation force

and even if this thread was created there, they would say that this belongs to /vr/ or nintendo general

[Anonymous No.3440307]

>>3440236
You can legit get stuck on it if you miss a map station, which you can't go back to. This way you have no other way of knowing the way than randomly bombing shit.

[Anonymous No.3440309]

>>3440221
me too

[Anonymous No.3440310]

>>3440241
>I read too many video game reviews and think that's how to actually talk about them the post

[Anonymous No.3440312]

metroid 1 would be better if killing a boss didn't shower you with missiles

so much of the game's exploration revolves around finding missile tanks, which don't matter because ridley is a shitter and you can just gun him down for 75 missiles

[Anonymous No.3440328]

>>3440310
>stop disliking what I like the post

[Anonymous No.3440331]

>>3440303
pretty sure this garbage copy paste of gba sprites in game maker is discussed plenty on /v/. so no, you don't have to shit up what should be a decent board with your shitty fangame if you don't even actually like retro games.

[Anonymous No.3440347]

>>3440331
now that a bait shitposting

[Anonymous No.3440362]

>>3440312
That doesn't make any sense. If you killed enemies if you went along you'd always be at full missile capacity.

[Anonymous No.3440476]

>>3440241
Speak for yourself, your whining doesn't count as actual critique.

[Anonymous No.3440486]

>>3440002
It depends on the hack. Hacks that change how Samus moves, even with something as simple as the ability to go back into a spin, will get overwritten and potentially break the hack when patched with Control Freak.

IIRC, Super Zero Mission is one of the ones that breaks with Control Freak.

>>3440003
Control freak doesn't include that ability.

[Anonymous No.3440536]

>>3440196
appreciating retro games merely for the sake of being retro is completely fucking retarded
>>3440310
I'm a retard with no arguments and I must post

[Anonymous No.3440558]

>>3440486
>>3440002
Control Freak rarely gets along with hacks that make their own changes to Samus's mechanics. Doesn't work at all with AngryFireChozo, for instance. It does surprisingly well with SZM -- the result is actually playable (which can't be said for Redesign with CF). But it overwrites both the rechargeable shinespark and respin.

[Anonymous No.3440563]

>>3440119
http://metroidconstruction.com/hack.php?id=161

[Anonymous No.3440605]

>>3440476
>I read too many video game reviews and think that's how to actually talk about them the post
>Speak for yourself, your whining doesn't count as actual critique.
Getting some mixed messages here, folks. Heheh.

[Anonymous No.3440737]

>>3440536
You don't appreciate Metroid 1 & 2 solely because they're retro but because they're decent games on their own and helped start the series and are worth playing. Saying to play the remakes only which aren't retro on /vr/ is completely fucking retarded. You might as well go to /v/ and start a metroid thread there, since we don't need generals to discuss Super Metroid and rom hacks aren't retro.

[Anonymous No.3440806]

>>3440737

what did you say, was dumb as

>the battlenet version of warcraft 2 int retro, i'll play dos with the non cd soundtrack
>Doom sourceports and mods aren't retro and they are shit shit, i'll play only DosBox Doom


you guys are just shitposting

[Anonymous No.3441370]

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion.

[Anonymous No.3441375]

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion?

[Anonymous No.3441380]

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion!

[Anonymous No.3441387]

>>3441375
I like the atmosphere, but it's too linear for me.

[Anonymous No.3441431]

>>3441375
I love metroid fusion, probably my favorite metroid other than AM2R

I know a lot of people's favorite metroid, it has a fantastic world, gameplay is great, the story is decent and it has lots of cool gameplay secrets, like the crystal flash and the charge beam stuff

but I had some issues with conveyance with Super metroid and I never had that issue with other metroid games

[Anonymous No.3441436]

>>3439012
>>/vg/

[Anonymous No.3441441]

Which Metroid game is this metroid from?

[Anonymous No.3441453]

>>3441441
>the one for ants

[Anonymous No.3441484]

>>3441453

[Anonymous No.3441651]

Fuck bomb jumps and fuck Wall jumps. It's 4am and I've been stuck in that bitchass sand level from Super Metroid for an eternity.

[Anonymous No.3441698]

>>3441651
Ah, takes some time getting used to, but that's the fun of it. You need to time when you can do a circle jump. Atleast that's what I do.

[Anonymous No.3441761]

>>3440236
Getting stuck is the fun part you mong

[Anonymous No.3441973]

>>3439012
If you're going to link Valiant, you should be using the Vaccinated Edition for compatibility.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/84919-valiant-vaccinated-edition-on-idgames/
Also,
>The Island
Maximum nah.

Try these:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dark7
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/hg
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/ma_val
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/ma_put

[Anonymous No.3441982]

>>3441651
you have to roll into a hole on the ground with the crabs that you cant see, I would blame the game for this, but the x-ray exists

the problem with that is later in the game you have to go through a false wall that even the x-ray cant see

[Anonymous No.3441987]

I beat all the 2D metroids but I never got into the prime series

hopefully I can find a proper mouse and keyboard configuration because I am not using a controller

[Anonymous No.3442001]

>>3441987
Shut the fuck up, bitch.

[Anonymous No.3442412]

>>3441987
You'd need a hack like the goldeneye n64 mouse hack. But even then it'd still be a bad game.

[Anonymous No.3442483]

>>3442412

too bad that no one can rebuild the game on UE4 without nintendo of AMERICA going apeshit

[Anonymous No.3442501]

now heres a small project that is a bit more ambitious than AM2R

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kjwg_Nv50g

[Anonymous No.3442504]

>>3442501

>HE POSTED A NEW VIDEO

OH YES I JUST CHECKED HIS SHIT A FEW DAYS AGO

[Anonymous No.3442521]

>>3442501
The HUD looks cool, but what makes it more ambitious than AM2R?

[Anonymous No.3442526]

>>3442521

complete reimaginating of metroid fusion

as a super metroid ROM hack. so all of this is done within the constraints of SNES limitations.

[Anonymous No.3442534]

>>3442526
Ah. Breddy coo.

[Anonymous No.3442546]

>>3442501
>am2r took 10 years
>MFW this wont be finished until 2025

[Anonymous No.3443041]

>>3441375
I fucking love Fusion. It controls perfectly, has great boss patterns, and is pretty spooky compared to most of the other games.

Shame about the story though.

[Anonymous No.3443134]

>>3442526
The work he's done so far is astounding.

[Anonymous No.3443150]

>>3443134
Would be awesome if saxes would show off secret techniques, it could be a tutorial for new players.

>fight sax, almost win
>crystal flash out of fucking nowhere

>chain shinespark based boss battle

[Anonymous No.3443401]

>>3441375
>not wall jumping
>not bomb jumping
>not fun allowed

fuck this gay game

[Anonymous No.3443416]

>>3443401


ok /v/fag, nice bait

[Anonymous No.3443425]

>>3443416
but you fucking cant nerd

[Anonymous No.3443432]

>>3443401
Metroid Fusion is actually my favorite Metroid even despite those problems.

[Anonymous No.3444047]

and here's another Metroid 2 remake

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv_bBEE7Rz0

[Anonymous No.3444056]

>>3444047
I doubt anything will be better than AM2R to be honest

[Anonymous No.3444071]

>>3444056
my honest opinion is that metroid 2 is already better than am2r

[Anonymous No.3444075]

>>3444071
okay

[Anonymous No.3444081]

>>3444071


nice bait /v/irgin

[Anonymous No.3444104]

>>3444081
Let me know when they fix AM2R to not have cringeworthy artificial difficulty Metroid battles requiring typical modern gamer cheapass tactics instead of actual skill, like the original.

[Anonymous No.3444106]

>>3444081
Honestly the best part about AM2R was the backgrounds. Mediocre music. Awkward boss fights. Queen fight is a big let down. Puzzles are too easy. A distinct lack of large rooms that aren't either ruin exteriors or Metroid nests. There's a little bit too much direction, you don't get to lose your bearings often enough. The beam weapon is too weak. By and large bosses take too many hits. The maximum firing rate for missiles and beams is too slow. Bosses don't allow for enough alternative strategy in the way you combat them. When you actually kill a metroid it's not very satisfying. Too many morphball mazes. Game is rarely if ever scary or unsettling.

It might be better than Zero Mission or Metroid 1

It is not better than Metroid 2, Super, or Fusion

[Anonymous No.3444107]

>>3444104
>artificial difficulty Metroid battles
what a spicy meme

[Anonymous No.3444109]

>>3444107
>meme
Ah yes, the word 4chan kids trot out every time they encounter someone that knows what the fuck they're talking about to hide their ignorance.

[Anonymous No.3444110]

>>3444104
>every other missle will get deflected
>super missile gets deflected every time
>can't alternate them or anything like that
>most reliable way to get a super missile in is to go melee and eat a claw swipe for each one
smhtbqhwtyf

[Anonymous No.3444112]

>mfw I go to /vr/ expecting actual discussion instead of /v/ shit flinging

whelp, I don't know what I expected

[Anonymous No.3444128]

how stubborn should i be about not using guides or maps on metroid 1 and 2? i get lost for long enough that i don't pick up the game for a while and then it gets worse
how mad did y'all get when you saw the federation force samus cameo? my blood pressure is already too high but nintendo doesn't care

[Anonymous No.3444136]

>>3444112
and yet you contribute nothing of your own

[Anonymous No.3444360]

How in the shit...?

[Anonymous No.3444367]

>>3444360
shienspark from outside, store it on the incline, drop a bomb then shinespark horizontally

[Anonymous No.3444380]

>>3444367
Thanks m8, god I hate shinesparking so much. Also, where do you access the room in your vid? I've been there but had to quit the game before I got the missile, now I can't remember where it was.

[Anonymous No.3444381]

>>3444380
top right of the map

[Anonymous No.3444383]

>>3444380
Shinesparking is gr8 m8

I still remember when I got the super secret in Metroid Fusion, felt like my hands were moving faster than my thoughts

did it on a real life DS exactly once

never been able to do it since, not on real hardware, not on emulator

[Anonymous No.3444397]

>>3444381
Thx bb

>>3444383
I just don't think the mechanic works well with the gameplay style. Metroid is about exploring and taking your time working things out rather than pixel-perfect maneuvering. I mean yeah there's always a puzzle element with any shinespark, but more often than not you'll spend a couple of minutes working it out and a couple of hours trying to execute the bloody thing. The game doesn't even teach you the fundamentals like storing charges, using slopes, morph sparking etc.

[Anonymous No.3444404]

>>3444397
>The game doesn't even teach you the fundamentals like storing charges, using slopes, morph sparking etc.
that's why it's fun

[Anonymous No.3444456]

Gentle reminder that the Chozo statues in Zero mission were marked with a bird head on the map, but unless you looked close it looked like simply a red circle with a shine. I made that mistake too, and it seems like the AM2R guy made it too.

[Anonymous No.3444804]

God now I wanna play Metroid again, fuck you guys

I've only ever played Zero Mission, what should I know if I want to play Metroid II? How difficult will the map making be? I've done it for Wizardry before but like, literally only the first floor

[Anonymous No.3444810]

>>3444804
Expect a somewhat similar experience to Super metroid, only more of being confused of where to go. Not a strong title in the series, but still worth playing.

[Anonymous No.3444882]

>>3444804

play metroid II then AM2R

1.2 may come soon

[Anonymous No.3444954]

What metroid games to play on a new 3ds?

[Anonymous No.3444970]

Okay, so I'm having some real issues with the queen fight. I've got the attack patterns down so I can get through to the fourth room with a good amount of health left, but I keep running out of missiles. I've got 230 regular and 18 super, is this really not enough? I've completely cleared the map of (marked) items so I'm not sure what more I can do.

[Anonymous No.3445072]

>>3444970
let her eat you. what to do next should be obvious

[Anonymous No.3445110]

>>3444970
Shoot those spiky things a few times for energy and more missiles then scoop them up by charging the beam. You should be doing that all along.

[Anonymous No.3445116]

>>3445110
Oh shit, had no idea you could shoot them with your beam since missiles just bounce off them and screw attack is the easiest way to dodge them. I'm an idiot.

[Anonymous No.3445125]

>>3444970
Flinging bombs at her with the charge beam is pretty effective, but you should just be doing what >>3445110 said.

[Anonymous No.3445381]

>>3444954
metroid, metroid 2, and super metroid are on virtual console
you can emulate all of the above and also play fusion and zero mission if you have homebrew
metroid prime hunters if you have the cart or a flashcart

[Anonymous No.3445462]

>>3444970
How the fuck are you running out of missiles when your stock is that large
I could understand running out if you had less than that, or were playing on hard, but you've got literally no excuse

[Anonymous No.3445472]

>>3439398
>Play Redesign: Axiel Edition
>was fun
>play Z-Factor after
>completely lost
fuck Axiel Edition, fuck it's perfect map subscreen, and fuck it's Zebes Express

[Anonymous No.3445476]

>>3445472
Redesign Axiel Edition does a lot of things right, but I dropped it because I was irritated of being lost every 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.3445481]

>>3445476
but it tells you exactly where to go

[Anonymous No.3445483]

>>3445481
not really, it implemented stuff you couldnt do in the initial game like going through tubes which was cool, but was frustrating me

I got lost a lot in super metroid as well so yeah

[Anonymous No.3445486]

>>3445483
>game implements it's own hint system that tells you points of interest, exactly where you have seen power bomb and speed booster blocks, and exactly where all the chozo guardians are
>"not really"

[Anonymous No.3445509]

>>3445486
>exactly where you have seen power bomb and speed booster block
doest do that, the hint system just point to somewhere on the map, not specifically where shit is

there were also pits that you could get out without me restarting the game

Redisgn is cool, but too frustrating for me

[Anonymous No.3445514]

>>3445462
I didn't realise you could refill by shooting the spores. When I did that I beat her straight away.

>>3445476
I dropped it after spending an hour trying to get up the first long walljump section. That's some seriously bullshit level design.

[Anonymous No.3445520]

>>3445509
Some '???' markers put you in a spot where it was obvious where to go next. MOST were put right on top of the next item to collect or boss to fight.
And there are no inescapable pits in Axiel Edition.

You're nuts, m8.

[Anonymous No.3445521]

>>3445514
>auto walljump
>had to spend an hour doing it

[Anonymous No.3445531]

>>3445521
>auto walljump
?

[Anonymous No.3445701]

I know this is off topic but I remembered with Sakamoto said about the ending of Fusion about what happened when she absorbed the SA-X. At first when he said she reconstructed her genetic condition I thought he meant she was back to normal but then I read up on vaccines and gene therapy along with looking at the reconstructed Space Pirate base on Zebes in Super and that's when I came to the conclusion that Samus's Chozo and Metroid DNA fused into one. This means she has all of her traits from Metroid 1-3 and her X absorbing ability from Metroid 4.

[Anonymous No.3445901]

>>3445701
She became the Doomslayer, the chozo walker, the scource of pirates and galactic federation

if Fusion someday receives a sequel, prepare to see something based on DOOM 2016 plot and the newest Alien

Fusion, FF and "yuck"other M already gave hints that the GF went full UAC, wit the idea of creating monsters for their army using metroids and whatever they are dabbling now

Expect adam to be something in the lines of Samuel Hayden, and let samus do the dirty work, until he finds a way to ditch her out of his plans

[Anonymous No.3445970]

>>3445531
Axiel Edition rewrote the Wall Jump code so that you just had to hold jump and press away from a wall, and that was it.
It's basically like Other M's Wall Jump, except instead of holding a single direction and pressing jump multiple times, you held jump and alternated directions.

[Anonymous No.3445973]

>>3445701
She never lost her traits from 1-3, she had just gained a weakness to cold from the Metroid vaccine.
Absorbing the SA-X removed that flaw.

[Anonymous No.3445989]

I only have 95% complete in AM2R. Anyone have the 100% completion map?

[Anonymous No.3445996]

>>3445973
She was also weak in her defense, SA-X also fixed that.

[Anonymous No.3445997]

>>3445989

[Anonymous No.3446151]

the days of /vr/ being a low key board are gone. Now we're being shuffled into busy general threads where conversation will stifle down to memes.

[Anonymous No.3446158]

>>3445997
Isn't that 1.0?
Seems like a warp is missing.

[Anonymous No.3446169]

>>3443134
Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.3446207]

>>3445997
But that's missing the

>see >>3446158
Oh. Never mind. He splained it. I thought my eyes were derpy because when I loaded my file after updating to 1.1, I saw this new room I never noticed before. Guess it was just that 1.1 adds a few areas. Fun.

[Anonymous No.3446247]

>>3446158
>>3446207
Considering how little the map changes, I didn't feel the need to update it. I'm sure there are updated versions out there, though.

[Anonymous No.3446275]

>>3446247
Makes sense. 1.2 might have some more changes, like that one warp pipe you can't actually get into right now.

[Anonymous No.3446398]

>>3439012
Liam from TBFP says he really liked Federation Force, both single and multiplayer.

Will /v/ finally stop liking him now? That's like when Woolie became the official Other M apologist.

[Anonymous No.3446405]

How do I get past this? There's no way to build up momentum easily except outside the room but when I get in there's a power bomb wall blocking the way.

[Anonymous No.3446409]

>>3446405
horizontally shinespark from outside through the door, use the incline inside as a ramp and reset the charge, plant the bomb then shine spark horizontally

[Anonymous No.3446487]

>>3446405
Think outside the box.

[Anonymous No.3446516]

>>3446409
Thanks. This helped.

[Anonymous No.3446520]

>>3444360
>>3444367
>>3446405
>>3446409
>spoonfeeding this much

[Anonymous No.3446603]

>>3446405
Literally posted like 30 posts earlier in this thread.

[Anonymous No.3446786]

>>3446603
>literally

[Anonymous No.3446972]

>>3446786
> literally literally

[Anonymous No.3447405]

>>3444360
It's like you never got Zero Mission 100%.

[Anonymous No.3449247]

If you were to create your own metroid upgrade, what would it be and how would you implement it gameplay wise?

[Anonymous No.3449278]

New bread
>>3449136

[Anonymous No.3449370]

>>3449278
>350 posts early

[Anonymous No.3449452]

>>3444456
Link this post to him so he can do a 2 minute update to 1.11

[Anonymous No.3449730]

>>3449452
Map isn't high res enough

[Anonymous No.3449969]

>>3444456
I think they're meant to be circles like the things the items are held in before they're broken open.

[Anonymous No.3450090]

>>3444456
Huh. He's right.
But I've noticed that Zero Mission's bird heads are irregularly shaped, and appear to be shifted left or right depending on the room layout so as to not obscure any connections on the map. See the location of the Bombs, and the hint statue three levels up and to the right for example.

I'd say that DM64 went with the ball for simplicity's sake, rather than having to deal with multiple tiles for the same thing which could potentially obscure a connection anyway.

[Anonymous No.3450817]

[Anonymous No.3452063]

>>3440312
metroid 1 would be better if you didn't have to grind forever to get some energy/missiles.

[Anonymous No.3452097]

>>3450817

imagine if all of them were released at the same time...

[Anonymous No.3452147]

wait should one really play super metroid before am2r? I guess it would make sense story wise but wouldnt having played SM first make more sense gameplay wise?

[Anonymous No.3452161]

>>3452147


AM2R is Metroid 2, SM is metroid III

if you're playing for the sake of history, welp... poor baby :(

[Anonymous No.3452175]

>>3452161
no im aware and not playing for sake of history, just thought that maybes one would enjoy am2r more having played SM

[Anonymous No.3452251]

>>3446405
>he didn't play Zero Mission

[Anonymous No.3453098]

>>3450817

Shit, I didn't even recognize that. That's cool.

[Anonymous No.3453123]

>>3453098
Not a lot of people did.
And nearly no one recognized Nightmare's hand. I certainly didn't. It took some other Anon doing some photoshop magic to get me to recognize the part. That was a puzzling mystery.

[Anonymous No.3453627]

>>3444456
>>3450090
Actually guys, upgrades in Zero Mission was marked with a Blue Dot, which changed into the Bird Head once it was picked up.

Bird Heads marked statues that held no upgrade, since they could be used to recharge ammo and energy.

[Anonymous No.3453632]

>>3453627
The Power Grip is a special case since the statue at it's location doesn't become a recharge station. Instead of becoming a Bird Head, the room is marked with a White Dot.

As you can see, the Blue Dot from the previous screenshot (Plasma Beam) has turned into a Bird Head.

[Anonymous No.3453662]

Best Metroid toy?

[Anonymous No.3453684]

>>3453662
Y'know, I always disliked how Retro tackled Metroids in 3D.
Just having the mandibles hanging off the bottom, completely separated from the membrane just looks kinda off, whereas the 2D versions of Metroids all had the mandibles partially encased within the bottom of the membrane.

[Anonymous No.3454362]

Which boss was your favorite? I really loved when this guy popped up out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.3454369]

>>3452251
I did, but I didn't 100% it, because some of the shinesparking was painful to me

[Anonymous No.3454501]

>>3454362

the torizo fight was great

the cyber pancake was a pain, and the Queen fight was nice, mainly with this music to make your blood run faster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52tMpxMkrU

[Anonymous No.3454819]

>>3440536
Do you know where you are? You might be fucking retarded, have you been tested?

[Anonymous No.3454821]

>>3440307
>which you can't go back to
Yes you can.

[Anonymous No.3454854]

180th for RoS a best

[Anonymous No.3454857]

>>3444810
It and fusion are literally the most linear games in the franchise. It's a long tube.

[Anonymous No.3454858]

>>3454857
linear with lots of bosses/minibosses > nonlinear NEStroid rehash

[Anonymous No.3454880]

>>3454858
Did you read the post I was quoting, or are you simple?
>>3444810
>similar experience to Super metroid, only more of being confused of where to go. Not a strong title in the series, but still worth playing
>only more of being confused of where to go.
Metroid 2 was not confusing in the slightest. And whether or not you like it, it ranks with Fusion for linearity. So please read before you respond. At least in 2 no one held your dick or told you where to go.

[Anonymous No.3454931]

>>3454880
Yes, I read the post. Doesn't change my opinion, autist

[Anonymous No.3455016]

>>3454931
>decides to spout an unrelated opinion
>calls someone else an autist
Sure thing bwui.

[Anonymous No.3455021]

>>3455016
>unrelated
>was directly about the genre of game being discussed
Okay kiddo, sorry being 20 isn't working out for you.

[Anonymous No.3455045]

>>3455021
>Fusion being a game removed by 10+ years of hw is more fleshed out and a better game than one that it's predecessor
No shit retard. It's cute that you have to resort to age bashing a 29 year old about being young. Especially when he's not saying anything negative about babby's first Metroid. Which you've more or less implied by how adamant you're defending it. So cool your jets and go to a board that's actually intended to discuss post 2000 games. You might get a warmer reception there in your precious hug box.

[Anonymous No.3455063]

>>3455045
ebin

[Anonymous No.3455071]

>>3455063
Nice retort.

[Anonymous No.3455081]

>>3455071
You as well, fellow /r/edditor!

[Anonymous No.3455182]

shit general, shit fanbase

[Anonymous No.3455253]

>>3455182
>get told
>"I'll just tell them they're shit, that'll show them!"

[Anonymous No.3455393]

So how often do you guys fap to Samus?

[Anonymous No.3456109]

Boy I sure like this inline extension.

[Anonymous No.3456195]

>>3455253
>get told
I sure did, laddie. You sure showed me, wew. Thank goodness this wasn't reddit, otherwise my account could have been besmirched forever

[Anonymous No.3456197]

>>3455393
Metroid fans can't fap to Samus, that would objectify her. They have to be cucks, you see?

[Anonymous No.3456248]

>>3456197
doesn't masturbating make you a cuck by default

[Anonymous No.3456252]

Why did Super Metroid drop the level of difficulty seen in both its predecessors? The hardest thing about it is the the platforming segments.

>>3456248
Explain.

[Anonymous No.3456296]

>>3456252
If you're masturbating you're pretty much wasting your jizz and spilling it on the ground while someone else is fucking one of the billions of available orifices in the world.

Being a cuck basically means you are not having sex while someone else is, as a result of their perceived success and your own perceived failure. By that measure, every time you dump your jizz in anything other than a human orifice or upon a human body, you are a cuck, because you could have had sex instead if you hadn't somehow fucked up.

I suppose to really be a cuck you would have to also want to have sex or want to be like the person who is having sex, so you probably couldn't be a cuck if you were completely asexual or only masturbated to inanimate objects.

[Anonymous No.3456315]

>>3453662

There's a Metroid toy? Fuck man that's one of the few vidya things I'd want in my house

[Anonymous No.3456323]

>>3454362

Definitely serris. I had to pause the game because I was having a little fucking fit of joy. I was smiling during the whole fight

[Anonymous No.3456326]

>>3456296

>this whole post

Boy howdy I can't wait till the internet stops being obsessed with this shitty fetish. I'd welcome foot fags at this point

[Anonymous No.3456362]

>>3456296
You're absolutely right. Now lube up and bend over for us.

[Anonymous No.3456408]

>>3456296
That's not what a cuck is. At all.

[Anonymous No.3456415]

>>3456408
Oh well why don't you tell me what it really is then

[Anonymous No.3456420]

>>3456415

I'm replying to one

[Anonymous No.3456427]

>>3456420
oh ok let me know when you're done then you can tell me

I also keep a lot of tabs and stuff open sometimes

[Anonymous No.3456452]

>>3456415
It's a man whose gf/wife is getting boned by another man. Jacking off has nothing to do with it unless the cuckold is jacking off to his SO getting fucked. Cuckoldry requires a relationship. What you described was voyeurism.

[Anonymous No.3456562]

>>3456452
but if you're getting cucked you're really not in a relationship with that person

[Anonymous No.3456639]

>>3439225
Metroid 2 is only unplayable if you're a casual bitch that's been coddled by modern video games.

[Anonymous No.3456901]

>this thread
I thought I was in /vr/, not /v/

[Anonymous No.3456905]

>>3456901
This fanbase is shit anywhere, not just /v/

[Anonymous No.3456906]

>>3439012
Ayyo wtf is going on with op pic
Zero suit sexy adventure time samus is
NOT RETRO

[Anonymous No.3456912]

>>3456905
the entire previous thread and first bit of this thread would argue otherwise

[Anonymous No.3456913]

>>3456912
no

[Anonymous No.3456980]

>>3456905
If by "fanbase" you mean "shitters that harass metroid threads" then yes.

[Anonymous No.3457017]

>>3456913
nice rebuttal

[Anonymous No.3457740]

Remember kids

if you fap to samus, you fap to kim basinger at her peak

[Anonymous No.3457751]

>>3457740
I still have her Batman poster.

[Anonymous No.3457791]

Metroid has always felt like a lonely series, I think that's why I liked it so much growing up

[Anonymous No.3457873]

>>3439012
Tower, first time playing, picked hard mode.

I've figured out zeta Metroids i think but my anus was not prepared for bullet hell space jumping.

[Anonymous No.3458059]

>>3457873
You only need a regular jump to get behind a Zeta.

[Anonymous No.3458060]

>>3454362
Torizo and Tester. Serris was just boring.

[Anonymous No.3458063]

>core temperature spikes

[Anonymous No.3458343]

>>3458059
I meant the tower boss.

[Anonymous No.3458349]

>>3439405
now post other m's :^)

[Anonymous No.3458472]

>>3458063
>core temperature maxes out as the blast doors are slowly opening

[Anonymous No.3458507]

>>3457740
>if you fap to samus, you fap to kim basinger at her peak

Is this a bad thing?

She was gorgeous in the '80s.

[Anonymoos No.3458515]

>>3458507
>Is this a bad thing?
Not at all, I still find her fuckable to be honest

[Anonymous No.3458671]

What are some 2D platformers with movement systems as deep as Super Metroid?

Seeing how speedrunners play the game shows just how much intricacy there is to controlling Samus, between all the powerups, hidden skills and other tricks. What other games are like this?

[Anonymous No.3458698]

>>3457740
>>3458507
>>3458515

>til they changed her look in fusion and forward to look more like christina applegate in married with children...

[Anonymous No.3458727]

I prefer the original Metroid II to AM2R.

[Anonymous No.3458729]

>>3458727

That's fine.

[Anonymoos No.3458756]

>>3458727
Me too friendo. That atmosphere

[Anonymous No.3459014]

ive only ever played zero mission as a kid now finishing up AM2R, will i be dissapointed by comparison when going to SM next?

[Anonymous No.3459019]

>>3459014

Super Metroid is a bit clumsier than ZM and AM2R due to its age. The physics and controls might feel off.

However, it far exceeds both games when it comes to atmosphere and exploration. If the controls really get on your nerves, give the Control Freak patch a try.

[Anonymous No.3459070]

>>3459019
thanks will keep it in mind
goddamn AM2R feels so silky smooth it even makes ZM feel clumsy back to back

[Anonymous No.3459097]

>>3459070
zm missile scheme is clumsy unless you're playing with a joypad

AM2R works great with a keyboard

[Anonymous No.3459248]

>>3459014
Yea its honestly worst of 2d 4some.
Just go onto fusion, or play prime trilogy.

Metroid Prime is just a better super in 3d anyways, (Get the trilogy edition of the games though!)

[Anonymous No.3459283]

>>3458671
Symphony of the Night is the obvious answer

I think most of the Castlevania games are satisfying to control, even if they aren't as deep

[Anonymous No.3459284]

>>3459248
>Metroid Prime is just a better super in 3d anyways

[Anonymous No.3459292]

>>3459284

>can't play FPS with exploration

[Anonymoos No.3459329]

Prime felt vanilla to the extreme for some reason. I always enjoyed its sequels more.

[Anonymous No.3459415]

>>3459292
>he thinks metroid without acrobatics is still metroid

it's not just about spelunking

[Anonymous No.3459448]

>>3458727
Door's on the left.

[Anonymoos No.3459452]

>>3459448
fuck off, child

[Anonymous No.3459491]

>>3459452
You'd have to have some warped priorities to think a dinky GB title is better than something as polished as AM2R.

[Anonymous No.3459497]

This fight between originals and remakes feels so fucking forced. Does anyone else feel that way? Like its just being manufactured to get these threads shut down for no fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.3459512]

>>3459497

Yes.

[Anonymous No.3459552]

>>3459497

Arguing is the point of all threads video game related. Without an argument it's just an open exchange of ideas and thoughts and information, and who wants that?

I say you guys have your priorities ass backwards.

[Anonymous No.3459578]

So I don't usually come to these threads, but this is a Metroid general, right? And there's absolutely no discussion for Federation Force? Is it just that boring and shitty of a game that nobody even wants to talk about it?

[Anonymous No.3459584]

>>3459578
by george, i think he's got it

[Anonymous No.3459587]

>>3459578

You came for the ass, don't even lie yo

[Anonymous No.3459590]

>>3441651
haha i can imagine the pain too good.

[Anonymous No.3459592]

>>3459587
I won't deny that.

[Anonymous No.3459593]

>>3459578
Well, this is /vr/, but there's really not much to discuss about FF. Even the prime 4 cliffhanger at the end is just the same shit from prime 3.

[Anonymous No.3459609]

>>3459593
Yes, this is /vr/, but I don't see a dedicated Metroid general thread on /vg/, so if Prime 4 or something ever does come out never ever, I would assume you guys would be talking about it here.

I figured that's the case, looks like the game's not even interesting enough to induce that much rage from Metroid fans.

[Anonymous No.3459619]

>>3459593
>prime 4 cliffhanger
jfc nintendo

[Anonymous No.3459656]

>>3459619
It could be anything, honestly. It's just another few seconds of Sylux doing a thing.

[Anonymous No.3459730]

>>3459329
I agree, but thats what I love about it.

I wouldn't ever want it to have any more gimmicks than it currently does. Its good to have at least 1 3d Metroid game that is fully generic.

[Anonymous No.3459865]

and welp

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uctoTqKzb0U

[Anonymous No.3459912]

>>3439016
I've been dicking around making a romhack for Super Metroid off and on for months now. Every time I go back to it I make a little change here and there.

My goal has to open the world up to remove the "intended" sequence as much as I can, so that people can actually explore and get lost. New players wouldn't be as railroaded and experienced players would have fewer obstacles in their way.

[Anonymous No.3460257]

>>3459865

>some faggot youtuber that just talks about bullshit

[Anonymoos No.3461080]

>>3460257
needs to be an edit with "let me tell you why that's bait"

[Anonymous No.3461273]

>get space jump in AM2R
>now have two paths open, one of which is a room where there's breakable stuff and one of the chozo things activated by morph ball. but the door doesn't work in the room
>the other requires powerbombs
>been to every square on the map I can see

I'm not sure if the door is bugged or if I'm actually just an idiot. Its probably the latter, but I'm just totally lost.

[Anonymous No.3461346]

>>3461273

where are you?

[Anonymous No.3461415]

>>3461273
Consult Map: >>3445997

[Anonymous No.3461437]

>>3461415
thanks

turns out I WAS just being an idiot

[Anonymoos No.3461715]

Okay guys, I know Kraid is next since I've already taken out the eye covering his boss door. Done some backtracking and I'm wondering...

Can I scale this area and get through that hole at the top without the Ice Beam?

Also, I skipped Plant Boss. Am I missing anything important by not killing him yet?

[Anonymous No.3461718]

>>3461715
Yes
No

[Anonymoos No.3461723]

>>3461718
>yes
got damn it. Guess I need to git gud

[Anonymous No.3461724]

>>3461715
You absolutely can. It's a major strategy in speedrunning.
Just a Super Missile tank. That's where you're intended to collect them for the first time.

[Anonymoos No.3461729]

>>3461724
Yeah, I knew about the tank but was wondering if it was anything else. I just learned mockball and the correct way to walljump so I'm exploring a bit

[Anonymoos No.3461731]

>>3461724
>>3461718
got damn it, I just realized that you don't need the Ice Beam to kill the turtle-bug things and can just super missile them to death. That makes things much easier

[Anonymous No.3461735]

>>3461731
Super Missiles are the only things that CAN kill Rippers.

[Anonymoos No.3461741]

>>3461735
For some reason I thought they had to be frozen first

[Anonymous No.3461746]

>>3459248
>>3459292
>>3459448
>>3459491

[Anonymous No.3461775]

>>3461735
can't you plasma them

also screw attack

[Anonymous No.3462939]

>>3457740
not so sure of that

[Anonymous No.3463487]

Can any one offer tips on the cwj over the missile moat? I've already collected the missile at this point and while I do my best to jump late as possible off of a running start into the room, I can't seem to hold the jump button just the right amount to hit the other side of the pillar though.

[Anonymous No.3464008]

>>3463487
You simply hold the jump button all the time until you have to do the wall jump. If you start running and jump both in the right spots, you should be able to do this.
Trying to time that shit is pretty frustrating though, good luck.

[Anonymous No.3464191]

>>3464008
Are you sure? Because it seems to me a full jump from the latest point (which is what tutorials seem to recomend) will greatly overshoot it. I don't even have high jump or anything.

[Anonymous No.3464296]

>>3464191
Start running from the other side of the door (Move yourself up against it, shoot it, then start running). Any further away and you'll be moving too fast.

[Anonymous No.3464320]

>>3464296
oh hell I've been going at maximum possible velocity this whole time. I didn't think Samus really accelerated past a few frames of running.

[Anonymous No.3465746]

it appears that some anon at doom general wants to update the metroid mod with more features

like zero suit mode(with weapons) and etc.

but there's no game that it fits with metroid common GF weaponry

[Anonymous No.3465843]

Wew, early Phantoon's suprisingly hard. Spazer helps alot against him normally.

[Anonymous No.3465859]

>>3465843

Did you finally manage to do the CWJ?

[Anonymous No.3466170]

>>3465859
yeah thanks.

[Anonymous No.3466406]

Man AM2R is pretty cool. Just got through the power plant area. That escape sequence was crazy, especially when you seemingly fuck up at the very end. Was there any missable stuff there, as there appears to be some passageway mid-elevator?

[Anonymous No.3466482]

>>3466406
>as there appears to be some passageway mid-elevator?
You'll go through there later.

[Anonymous No.3466485]

>>3466406
>tunnel
Don't worry about it. Keep playing the game and all will be revealed.
I do suggest you head back in though right now. A new path may have opened up.

[Anonymous No.3466908]

>>3466482
>>3466485
thanks dudesters.

Just finished it, what a cool game. I don't remember if I played all of Metroid II, but I feel like this is a very cool remake. Obviously a lot was new, but the main elements the original established were there. Felt a bit more linear than expected, but hey I like Fusion so that's A-OK with me.

Playing on Normal was a good choice. While early on was easy due to playing other metroids before, the lategame was hard like it should be. I like how Hard is an option even on the first run in case you're super good at Metroid. I'll go with that if I replay the game although considering how linear it was, one run is good enough for now.

88% items and 5 hour time. Not bad, but I have no clue what I could have even missed.

Might as well address my few issues with the game.

Why was there so much walking near the end? I get that you gotta build tension, but there were like 3 waterfall rooms that just kinda existed. Maybe something cool was hidden there, I dunno. This doesn't include the victory lap at the very end, that was cute and not too long.

Letting you leave the first Omega fight is a dick move, as you can't go back to Save/Heal until it dies. There's no real reason to leave that room besides getting the SM capsule to the right early, so I just kinda had to die as all its health came back and I wasn't the best at dodging it yet.

Not an issue, but I did like how the overworld music becomes more moody once you find the research team dead. Music overall was goood.


Overall, super fun fangame and I really should play Zero Mission. Glad you Metroid fans got something fun to play even if it ain't official.

[Anonymous No.3467049]

>>3466908
>Why was there so much walking near the end? I get that you gotta build tension, but there were like 3 waterfall rooms that just kinda existed. Maybe something cool was hidden there, I dunno.

There's nothing there. It's just a weird thing the original game did that was copied over to AM2R:
https://youtu.be/7wP8ZtnTEY4?t=7m

[Anonymous No.3467072]

>>3467049
Oh

thanks for the info

[Anonymous No.3467571]

>>3465746
marathon 2 fits with that

most weapons looks like the ones from prime

[Anonymous No.3468018]

>>3439251
Well, I don't think there are some good ways to do a skiprun in AM2R, unfortunately. :/ Still, the hardmode is much more challenging than in GBA metroids, so it kind of recompensates the thing.

[Anonymous No.3468081]

>>3458063
>>3458472
>>3466406
I can't escape the power plant's explosion, no matter how hard I try. Is it intended?

[Anonymous No.3468084]

>>3468081

It's scripted. I think it's impossible to lose.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3468294]

>>3468084
Yeah, I noticed this while I was watching my boyfriend stream it. It seems like the temperature gauge speeds up and slows down depending on how far you are, and it's rigged so that it will always explode just as you're going through the blast doors.

[Anonymous No.3468313]

>>3468294

It's bullshit and it's also not elastic enough. I realized quickly and it just killed the fun.

[Anonymous No.3468360]

>>3468313

>it kills the fun

shoo /v/

[Anonymous No.3468471]

>>3439306
>Fusion, ZM, and Prime aren't retro

What the hell are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.3469218]

https://metroid2remake.blogspot.fi/2016/09/no-future-for-am2r.html

1.2 never.

Not that its needed, 1.1 fixed all the stuff.

[Anonymous No.3469229]

>>3469218

>Source code never
Waste of a good engine.

[Anonymous No.3469323]

>>3441431
The only issue with conveyance in super metroid was that fucking glass tube super bomb shit, I could work out everything up until that point. Fuck that pissed me off bad.

[Anonymous No.3469335]

decided to try fusion again for the billionth time, combination of losing saves and losing interest has caused me to stop and start a lot
i'm still hating this game. i can appreciate the things people love about it, but yhe lack of freedom so far has been horrible. adam is suffocating and keeps locking doors so backtracking is only possible when you're allowed. the hub leading to the sectors as opposed to a fluid world is maddening in the first place. playing metroid like metroid seems to be forbidden. most of the movement feels smooth and fun but walljumps are less versatile which kind of hurts. it's understandable that they wanted some control over what sort sequence breaks are possible.
am i being unfair or stupid? does some of it get better?
meanwhile, i'm loving playing zero mission again for the first time in a while. still hand holdy and easy as fuck but my nostalgia boner makes me more forgiving of it.

[Anonymous No.3469346]

>>3469323

By the point in the game that you need to break the glass tube you've seen half of Maridia, including gigantic regions you can't yet reach. You've also seen the remains of a former glass tube and the presence of another room directly above the tube, locked behind a green gate.

If you can't have figured out that something at least needed to be done in there, how did you get this far in the game?

[Anonymous No.3469351]

>>3469346
There's even a platform above the tube. Maybe putting an item in there (and thus a symbol on the map) would have helped more people get it, but adding that extra nudge feels kind of cheap. I've heard suggestions like adding a room with a yellow door and a breakable tube, but that's too heavy handed and turns tubes into just another door.

[Anonymous No.3469394]

>>3469335
The best way to experience Fusion is to just take what items you can find on the intended path and save the backtracking for the end of the game

It's not like missiles and power bombs are any good in Fusion anyway

[Anonymous No.3469397]

>>3469394

The best way to experience Fusion is to do a 1% run.

[Anonymous No.3469448]

>>3469323
Do you ever even need to power bomb that tube? You can get into Meridia from the Ghost Ship.

[Anonymous No.3469454]

>>3469448
The wrecked ship entrance just leads to the tube (green gate glitch aside).

[Anonymous No.3469457]

>>3469448

You're limited in where you can go. Unless you do the green gate glitch, you can't enter the majority of Maridia from there.

Here's a horrifically compressed map showing where you're limited to.

[Anonymous No.3469678]

>>3469218


>NINTENDO OF AMERICA....

dear god, please make japanese Nintendo and Nintendo Yurop grow some pair and make sure that reggie kicks the bucket

[Anonymous No.3469681]

Next time I play Super Metroid I'm going to try to do Ridley before Draygon via bomb jumping. I Imagine getting the timing to skip that enemie's projectile is going to be hell.

[Anonymous No.3469689]

>>3469681

You can bomb jump in lava?

[Anonymous No.3469695]

>>3469689
I'll try for Phantoon > Kraid > Ridley > Draygon

So yeah I can bomb jump thanks to suits.

I could just do that gravity boost thing but i prefer to avoid such obvious glitches that make no sense.
>Taking off Gravity suit to increase velocity in liquid.

[Anonymous No.3469702]

>>3469695

I didn't think it worked.

I tried doing an RBO recently; right now I'm stuck in lower norfair trying to kill Ridley fast enough. It sucks but the point is that you don't need to gravity jump, a simple wall jump can take you into Ridley's Lair.

[Anonymous No.3469714]

>>3469702
The walljump requires you to take off gravity too. You don't get enough height without the weird lava physics.

[Anonymous No.3469730]

>>3469702
See i wasn't really interested in doing reverse. I tired to get in there via that wall jump before with the gravity suit and couldn't do it. I looked for examples but every speedrunner seemed to either go at it without gravity like you or do the glitch. So I felt like it just can't be done with gravity suit for some reason. I'll give wall jumping another shot next time before attempting bomb jumping.

https://youtu.be/uLZfM-Oym8I

[Anonymous No.3469739]

>>3469730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7xsWfkfqM

This keeps the gravity suit on, but it's not exactly glitch-free either.

[Anonymous No.3469741]

>>3469739
hmm, so its a short speed boost with damgae boosting right? I could accept that.

[Anonymous No.3469751]

>>3469741
Basically, here's more about it:
http://deanyd.net/sm/index.php?title=Lava_Dive_Room#Lava_Spark

I couldn't tell you how difficult it is. I'm terrible at short-charging and I only ever bother with it to shinespark into Draygon.

[Anonymous No.3469781]

>>3469323

[Anonymous No.3469916]

>>3469751
I decided to give this a try. The timing on that short charge is pretty rough. But if you're doing Phantoon first then I suppose it's not going to be any worse than a CWJ.

This is like the coolest trick in the game though

[Anonymous No.3469939]

>>3469916
shinespark is just the coolest thing ever really

[Anonymous No.3470895]

well

RIP metroid franchise, FF bombed in japan and worldwide, also the shitload of lawsuits from yesterday til now coming from nintendo of MERICA, to ALL fan projects

[Anonymous No.3470905]

>>3470895
So you're saying I have to get off my ass to dowmload all those rom hacks now?

[Anonymous No.3471489]

>tfw pulling off the CWJ for the first time
noice
also holy shit Phantoon is deadly

[Anonymous No.3471518]

>>3471489
Stop shooting it with Super Missiles. It becomes a lot less deadly.

[Anonymous No.3471651]

Is it possible to get to Draygon without the Ice Beam or Speed Booster?

[Anonymous No.3471827]

>>3471651
The reserve mode/r-mode glitch can store a shinespark without speedbooster. I'm pretty sure there's a way to x-ray climb to Draygon too.

[Anonymous No.3471965]

>>3471827

> reserve mode/r-mode glitch
I've never heard of this so I doubt it's practical without TAS

[Anonymous No.3472025]

>>3470905
only those more recent...

fucking Nintendo

[Anonymous No.3472030]

>>3471518
his super Missle counter is easilly dodged with charge jumps. So its actually pretty safe.

[Anonymous No.3472051]

>>3471965
It's non-TAS, it's just an obscure glitch that doesn't really do anything useful for normal playthroughs. Why do you want to fight Draygon without ice beam or speedbooster anyway?

[Anonymous No.3472064]

>>3472051

I wanted to know if I could beat him straight after Phantoon with the CWJ trick.

[Anonymous No.3472310]

>>3470895
Are you referring to the 500+ fangames being taken down from some fangame site?

I don't think you should care about that, since out of 500 fangames, probably only 4 or 5 of them are decent, meaning nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.3472648]

>mfw there's a Metroid general

[Anonymous No.3472671]

Fucking A, a Metroid general.

I'm a metroid fan blahblahblah, and I wanna become a game designer. Some months ago I decided to dedust an old project of mine, a remake of Metroid 1.
Sure it's already been remade once (twice if you count Super, thrice if you count Metroid Remix), but I intend this to be designed differently, and the main goal of this thing is to gain proper game dev experience so I could tackle the original games I want to make after that.

Game is being built in Construct 2 (saw room transition are doable so I settled here. So far only the most basic of movements is done, and right now I'm working on the spinjump) and is aimed to play like Fusion but with Super's aiming and weapon selection (it could be changed for GBA by the players + dedicated morph ball button).
I'm aware of what happened to AM2R, so I will post updates about it only here to avoid that. Though I could still work on it if I'm unable to share, it takes half the fun away to see others play your work.

[Anonymous No.3472723]

>>3472671
Super isn't a remake.

[Anonymous No.3472727]

>>3472671
Nice sprites. They're like this neat little mix of Metroid and Super Metroid. But then, I guess that's your intention.

[Anonymous No.3472728]

>>3472723
Yeah, it's a total revamp but in terms of design it's basically Metroid 1 on steroids.

[Anonymous No.3472729]

>>3472723
It is, same plot, same characters, same setting, same enemies

[Anonymous No.3472734]

>>3472729
Are you on drugs?

[Anonymous No.3472740]

>>3472728

I don't think so, Metroid is pretty different to Super as far as design goes.

[Anonymous No.3472741]

Did the Linux port of AM2R ever get released?

[Anonymous No.3472742]

>>3472727
Thanks, and yeah that's the goal, to have Metroid 1's proportions so that the environment comes out big for the player, On top of Super's grungy aesthetics I also chose to use the SA-X pose because it's just the best pose as far as 2D games go.

Varia suit and Gravity suit are now palette swaps and don't give damage reduction. For that now there's the Barrier Suit (a voluntary use of the Varia suit's mistranslation) for 50% damage reduction and giving the typical huge pauldrons.

[Anonymous No.3472745]

>>3472741
Only an unofficial build of v1.0
An official build is never coming now

[Anonymous No.3472759]

>>3472734
No, how about you?

[Anonymous No.3472761]

>>3442483
>UE
Well they could, but luckily we can appreciate no one will combind two horrible things like that.

[Anonymous No.3472765]

>>3472742
I was going to suggest using the original Varia colors for the Barrier Suit, but then I realized.. pink doesn't really seem to suit the modern Power Suit design.

[Anonymous No.3472773]

>>3472759
Then I guess you must have brain damage, then.

[Anonymous No.3472827]

>>3469218
Nope, there are still some glitches. Nothing serious, probably (1.0 had nothing serious either). Also, Gravy Suit Stanky Leg

Someone should reverse engineer it and leak the source code then

[Anonymous No.3472832]

>>3472759
>>3472773
Story goes: Metroid > [Prime series] (May or may not be alternate continuity) > Metroid 2 / AM2R > Super Metroid > Metroid Other M > Metroid Fusion

[Anonymous No.3472851]

>>3472832

[Anonymous No.3472854]

>>3472851
that doesn't seem to account event order. Metroid 2 happens before 3 (Super), Super shows it in the intro.

[Anonymous No.3472885]

>>3472765
[spoilers]Yeah nah, Pink wouldn't work. I wanted to think of something that gives Samus' iconic poldrons without being tacked to an environmental powerup, like in Prime 2 and 3.
As far as areas go I took the original layout and added another (obvious) pair of areas, Crateria/Chozodia (but frozen so you'll need the Varia Core to travel outside of the temples) and its abandonned underground laboratory as its depths which can only be accessible by blowing up Ridley's ship

[Anonymous No.3472945]

>>3472854
The timeline shows Metroid 2 above (before) Super Metroid. It just says they happened in the same year.

[Anonymous No.3472947]

>>3439016
None will surpass Super Metroid honestly...best game ever

[Anonymous No.3472998]

>>3472947
Everyone did. Heck, even Metroid 1 did if you got the mOTHER hack.

[Anonymous No.3473042]

>>3472947
Hyper Metroid

[Anonymous No.3473812]

>tfw best beam will never get a proper 3D iteration

[Anonymous No.3473915]

>>3473812

that beam isn't great though

[Anonymous No.3473967]

>>3473915
Fight me

[Anonymous No.3473980]

>>3473967

What's so good about it?

[Anonymous No.3474002]

>>3473980
I just love how it looks. Shame it became donuts in Fusion tho.

[Anonymous No.3474254]

>>3473812
Metroid Dreadnought did it

[Anonymous No.3474441]

Took me this long to figure out Samus' pose in M1 wasn't a badly done sprite with a mutated arm

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474517]

Anyone mind if I start dumping random Metroid fanart?

[Anonymous No.3474525]

>>3474517
>not dumping metroid fanart
>in a metroid general

Come on now

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474534]

>>3474525

[Anonymous No.3474542]

>>3474517

Go for it bro

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474545]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474548]

[Anonymous No.3474550]

>finish AM2R
>98%

I don't know if it's worth to go back and search for theses last remaining secret items.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474552]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474616]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474930]

By the way, are there any good hacks for Zero Mission or Fusion?

[Anonymous No.3474940]

>>3474548
Cozy.

..someone had to say it.

[Anonymous No.3474949]

>>3474930
Decent tools for the job only just started to show up. The only one worth looking for right now is Freedom for Fusion, which removes the event system and allows single wall-jump and infinite bomb jumping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Iht5RjKvE

Also check his channel for more goodies.

[Anonymous No.3474950]

>>3474949

>The only one worth looking for right now is Freedom for Fusion, which removes the event system and allows single wall-jump and infinite bomb jumping.

That sounds interesting. How complete is it?

[Anonymous No.3474951]

>>3474949
to add to this, he's already released the walljump/bombjump change as a standalone patch if you want to screw around with it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TjTH6JfOB6SzJsLXhPTVFQV00/edit

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474960]

>>3474940
Cozy like the womb.

Even if it was unintentional, I feel like the concept of the morph ball fits nicely with the themes of motherhood seen throughout the series.

[Anonymous No.3474973]

>>3474960
don't start, just keep posting fan-art. you have one opportunity to not be a faggot, i suggest you keep at it.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3474982]

>>3474973
Okay.

[Anonymous No.3474991]

>>3474550
It's only like two. It's probably the super missile in the place with the thick growth and glow bugs. That was my last one. It's a shinespark puzzle before you get the boots and at the very end of a map branch.

[Anonymous No.3475007]

>>3472761

why the UE4 Rage?

too many shiny shit?

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475023]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475046]

>>3474973
Alpha as fuck.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475075]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475094]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475101]

[Anonymous No.3475102]

>>>/vg/

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3475109]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475117]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475286]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475351]

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3475408]

I like this one. The many faces of Ridley...

[Anonymous No.3475821]

>>3475408
two of those ain't even ridley tho

[Anonymous No.3475869]

>>3474441
Curious thing: there are tilesets to be used for when she is facing the opposite direction. It is pure Nintendo laziness that made her look this weird.

[Anonymous No.3475889]

>>3475869
They're not complete.
They're missing idle and up aim poses.
But yeah, still strange.

[Anonymous No.3475897]

>>3474545

>feather pubes

aw yeh

[Anonymous No.3475949]

>>3475889
Aim Up would probably look too similar to make any significant change, and idle is just the upper half of the body anyways. And I said tiles, not sprites. So you can use legs from running but upper body from idle

[Anonymous No.3475965]

>>3475949
I'm not dumb. I know how sprites work.
That said, the TILES are still missing for an idle torso.

[Anonymous No.3476948]

[Anonymous No.3477123]

>>3475408
>other m shit
image ruined

[Anonymous No.3477498]

So remember that scrambled message you get in Bryyo Ice, and it turns out it was the AU trying to contact you?
Well, despite the filename still telling that, one guy actually cleaned up the audio file the best he could, and this came out:

>"Our sacred cave was once beautiful. As that cave gets more cold, the aggravated souls will get their rest."

Bryyo ghosts confirmed, like the Chozo back in Tallon IV.

[Anonymous No.3477536]

>>3474973
you had one chance to not be a faggot and instead you bitched at someone contributing to discussion and posting fan art. next time keep the cocks in your mouth so the people who want to talk about metroid don't have to hear you moan

[Anonymous No.3477541]

>>3477498

Deepest lore.

[Anonymous No.3477547]

>>3477536
put your trip back on, sevenleaf

[Anonymous No.3477550]

>>3477498
>It's the ghost of the Prophetess

[Anonymous No.3477580]

>>3477123
Go back to /v/

[Anonymous No.3477586]

>>3439079
>axiel edition
I only just started playing redesign, should I start over with the axiel edition?

[Anonymous No.3477596]

>>3477586
Yes. You'll see the improvements immediately.

[Anonymous No.3477598]

>>3477596
alrighty, thanks

[Anonymous No.3477785]

https://www.mediafire.com/?h1n7fdzj6tzgj9c

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3477902]

[Anonymous No.3478061]

>>3474616
...Did Samus kill that baby's parents?

[Anonymous No.3478298]

>>3478061
No, the fire did.

[Anonymous No.3478812]

>>3478061
well shit

[Anonymous No.3478823]

what's with all the doom lovers in this thread

[Anonymous No.3478826]

I'm just gonna paste my idea for a future Metroid game here because I like feedback.

>After the events of Fusion, samus begins to feel odd and uncomfortable
>While she is floating through space, her ships computer Adam gives some exposition
>Suddenly Samus' ship is hit from the back and she begins plummeting toward an unmarked and uncharted planet
>Samus wakes up to a totaled ship and Adam offline
>She exists the ship, and gameplay begins

I specifically think that this game should have the absolute greatest feeling of isolation. As such, none of the music should be as upbeat and mystifying as the Prime or maingames. Keep all the songs have a feeling of uneasiness. Also, this being an uncharted planet, I don't think there should be any signs of Chozo or even any traditional upgrades. The game should be genuinely unsettling or even terrifying.

Through the game it is realized (assumed by the player) that Samus is slowly beginning to mutate into a Metroid herself after she had ones DNA injected into her in Fusion. This should keep the gameplay fresh by giving Samus completely new abilities and powers. All the powerups would also need to be acquired through new means, since there are no Chozo artifacts. Despite it giving her new abilities, it should also be made apparent in her movement and mannerisms that she is in great pain. Maybe even have a part of the game slow her speed and jump down to limping, before she gets it back as a later powerup.

[Anonymous No.3478827]

>>3478823
I like multiple franchises.

Also someone made a really kickass mod.

[Anonymous No.3478828]

>>3478826
There would be 2 major cutscenes in the game. One intro and one ending (the ending would have minor differences based on the clear time and percentage). Samus should talk in NEITHER of these and remain totally silent.

>the game ends with Samus on the brink of death. Mutating and having her body be completely destroyed my the Metroid DNA
>She sits herself up next to a rock and manages to remove her helmet despite it being fused to her body like the rest of her suit is (this only happens if you get the best ending)
>her face is all mangled and barely recognizable
>screen begins to fade to black as we cut to first person, samus' perspective
>Suddenly a bright light and the sounds of a ship landing near her
>Galactic Federation soldiers are seen approaching Samus
>The player gets hope that Samus is finally going to be saved and be okay
>"Samus Aran, you are under arrest for the destruction of the B.S.L Station and disclosing multiple government secrets. You have the right to remain silent.
>The last shot is Samus being dragged onto the ship. The camera pans and shows that the ship is a Galactic Federation medical ship
>cut to credits

What do you guys think? Would you like to see a Metroid game done similarly to this?

[Anonymous No.3478831]

>>3478826
>>3478828
Sounds okay, but ideas are dime a dozen and generally sound okay.
You gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.3478834]

>>3478831
>you gonna make it?

I wish I had this skill to do that. I would have already done it 10 times over

[Anonymous No.3478835]

>>3478826
Oh. It's you.
Your idea sucks.
And literally everyone has told you so every time you've posted that shit.

[Anonymous No.3478837]

>>3478834
Then it ain't worth anything, mate.

[Anonymous No.3478853]

>>3478828
>you're not the metroids samus, you are the Metroids

>then samus was Mother brain

[Anonymous No.3478870]

>>3478826
>>3478828

[Anonymous No.3478879]

>>3478870

thisismyfetish

[Anonymous No.3478892]

>>3477785
holy shit
it's so smooth

[Anonymous No.3478917]

>>3478892
and also so fucking slow

[Anonymous No.3478937]

>>3478917
It's no slower than Super Metroid

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3479103]

>>3478870
>ics

[Anonymous No.3479209]

>>3479103
>tripfag

[Anonymous No.3479216]

How do i get past the bubbles in the distribution center?

[Anonymous No.3479234]

>>3479216

Ice Beam.

[Anonymous No.3479239]

>>3479216

cancel that request i got it

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3479272]

[Anonymous No.3479357]

what's up with these fuckers that think putting primeshit key fetch quests into super metroid romhacks is a good idea?

[Anonymous No.3479374]

>>3479357

It works better in Prime because you can at least scan things and figure out what room they're in.

[Anonymous No.3479534]

Haha time for Prime 1 TAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YVIzei6VI0

[Anonymous No.3479717]

>>3479534

Prime has some really fun high level sequence breaking to it. I'd say it's about as flexible as Zero Mission if you can git gud.

>tfw you accomplished a 4-tank VMR after about a week of trying but your memory card corrupted

[Anonymous No.3480415]

>>3439012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfytJmm7Wd8

:^)

[Anonymous No.3480472]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8rgSkjI08

[Anonymous No.3480482]

>>3478061
that fusion suits looks so fucking good

[Anonymous No.3480527]

>>3478870
did she just lay all those eggs

[Anonymous No.3480539]

>>3480527
That's the implication, yes.

[Anonymous No.3480548]

>>3478870
Someone somewhere must be saying "MOAR!!!"... But I'm more curious for the idea of samus suffering mutations from Metroid DNA.

[Anonymous No.3480913]

>>3478826
Sounds like the most simple and safest way to do a metroid game. All you're really saying is "make a new game but this time she's part metroid", which is what Fusion was. But that game messed with the actual formula a little more, you can debate if a more linear metroid is a good thing, but at least it's shaking things up. You just want the concept of Fusion, and the actual game of Super.
Also:
>She exists the ship
Samus existing as her spaceship would make a far more interesting idea.

[Anonymous No.3480941]

>>3478823

because all doom lovers, and even the devs, are also metroid players

[Anonymous No.3481107]

>>3480941
And yet to this very day NO ONE HAS MADE A TC OF METROID FOR DOOM

[Anonymous No.3481130]

>>3481107
"but but, there's dreadnought, which is free to anyone who wants to update it, term said it"

[Anonymous No.3481208]

>>3481107
Rip, anon's hard drive.

[Anonymous No.3481226]

>>3481130
which is absolutely true

[Anonymous No.3481257]

>>3481226
it needs someone only to do the back +back turning sprites and walk sprites for Super Metroid samus sprites and zero suit mode

[Anonymous No.3481316]

>>3481257
imo dreadnought is pretty damn near complete as it is

only real thing it "needs" is a dedicated levelset for it and
>implying anyone makes levelsets for gameplay mods

[Anonymous No.3481595]

>>3481316
Can they even do room transition like in the Prime games, where 1 room = 1 map?

[Anonymous No.3481630]

How do I get through here?

I cant maintain the speed

[Anonymous No.3481643]

>>3481595
>>3481316

its possible to do this, but then who will do the maps?

a metroid TC map would need atleast a 40map megawad or something on the same scale as Knee deep in zdoom, Ancient Aliens or EPIC, each large map separated as a hub, thus there's the boss fights case, who would sprite kraid in all 4 angles unless someone decides to do a prime remake based on Valiant

but then, a Metroid Doom would be "free" from all DMCA bullshit

[Anonymous No.3481647]

>>3440248
Did not expect to find this here. People, pay more attention to this man.

[Anonymous No.3481650]

>>3481630
You don't need to boost through there, you can escape the same way you came in.
Drop bombs.

[Anonymous No.3481768]

What if Samus had an english accent?

[Anonymous No.3481775]

>>3481768

There's a lot of different english accents bro.

You wouldn't want to imagine Samus as a scouser.

[Anonymous No.3481796]

>>3481775
How about a subtle, yet noticeable one?

[Anonymous No.3481808]

>>3481796
Samus is now voiced by Lara Croft.

[Anonymous No.3481817]

>>3481808
With a tone more akin to Batman I'm 100% okay with this

[Anonymous No.3481841]

>>3481808

i miss when she was voiced by Fem Shep, before her career kickstarted

[Anonymous No.3482227]

>>3481796

No cockney Samus?

[Anonymous No.3482395]

>>3481768

[Anonymous No.3482537]

>>3481775
>Glasgow samus

[Anonymous No.3482542]

>>3482227
>I'll giv ridlay da what for I will I will!

[Anonymous No.3482550]

>>3482537
>>3482542

Just fuck my samus up, m8s

[Anonymous No.3482553]

>>3482550
>Fuck off ridley this is a kunt free zone m8

[Anonymous No.3482556]

what if metroid was a girl?

[Anonymous No.3482580]

>>3482556

[Anonymous No.3482605]

>>3482556
Then he could date Zelda.

[Anonymous No.3482606]

>>3482580
But what if metroid was phone

[Anonymous No.3482615]

>>3481643
40map? MAH BOY, have you played Hexen? Hexen uses Hub Map System. Probably would need AT MOST 20 maps.

Also, trivia: Two bosses in Metroid Prime Hunters are actually 2D sprites, because rendering them as 3D would take too much processing power

Also, another trivia: current GZDoom devbuilds and ZDoom stable build have Voxel support. And GZDoom accepts 3D Models, soooo....

[Anonymous No.3482876]

not sure if AM2R is fine to discuss here, but i'm stuck at the Tower Boss. i know how to attack him, but i can't seem to find the correct timing. everytime to try to approach him, he performs one of his own attacks, making it very,very difficult to hit his open spot because you need to avoid getting hit yourself.

any tips? I'm playing on Hard btw.

i also don't have the ice beam yet, for some reason that i don't know. i just didn't find it anywhere yet.

[Anonymous No.3482882]

>>3482876

Ice Beam is an endgame item.

[Anonymous No.3482887]

>>3482882
really? i looked up some gameplay and people had ice beam that were not as far in the game as i am. thought i missed it somehow.

I've even seen some gameplay of the boss i'm talking about, with the player having the Ice Beam. Are you sure you know which boss i'm talking about? The round spinning one, right after you restored the energy in the tower.

[Anonymous No.3482892]

>>3482876
Remakes are fine to discuss.
You've got two choices for the Tester. Either be aggressive as fuck, or wait for your chance to attack when it launches missiles.
Alternatively, you can skip the fight for the time being, take out the local Metroids and find an item that will make the fight easier.

>>3482887
You were likely watching demo footage. The Ice Beam is given earlier in the demos. Where the Charge Beam is located, in fact.
It was moved to later in the game for the final.

[Anonymous No.3482952]

>>3480472
there's something extremely wrong about those animations, i can't really place it. are they doing the rotation thing?
then pixels+ particles, i puked in my mouth
then the textures, i continue to vomit
in spite of all those aesthetic things, it seems to play well. making development of fan games easier is a good thing

[Anonymous No.3483025]

>>3482952
It might be the way your graphics card handles those. Different graphics card have different reactions. Also, Particles + Pixels + Textures + Rotations were in GBA and SNES.

[Anonymous No.3483132]

>>3482615

as i said, does metroid community will group up and do that?


heck there's even The Island for Gzdoom which has a system perfect system for a Metroid map pack

[Anonymous No.3483170]

>>3482876
I thought it was going to be impossible butbit didn't turn out to be that bad after I learned patterns and figured out how to hurt it.

The weapons are actually pretty weak, like two missiles will pop them, but they repair. The missile wave is good for repair resupply.

remember the enemy description
you have to switch to beam weapons after you've broken he shields. If you aim good maybe even after breaking just one or two segments. It doesn't have many hp after you break the shields.

[Anonymous No.3483174]

>>3481630

Shine spark from the right


Destroy some of the spikey floor enemy on the first building roof, shine and crouch at the edge. Walk off about four times left of the edge. About one samus above standing height of one of the platform's will be in line with the cave entrance. You can spark from a standing animation from in midair. If you're spinning it's no good.

There's no point, it's just for a speed run or something. The puzzle to the left through the super missile wall is nothing and will be obvious. The game will train you on how to use the grey ball things.

[Anonymous No.3483268]

Post qt space piarets

[Anonymous No.3483549]

>>3482580
>new log entry
Did anyone even took their time to read that stuff?

[Anonymous No.3483559]

>>3483549
I only did when I was stuck on a boss. Specifically the tester then I realized spamming super bombs wrecks him

[Anonymous No.3483774]

>>3483132
Who said a GROUP is needed? See Doomero.

[Anonymous No.3483941]

>>3483549
Absolutely. I loved the mechanic.

[Anonymous No.3484308]

>>3483268
cuddly zebesian please leave

[Anonymous No.3484310]

>>3483774
doomero's stuff is really bad, though
looks impressive but plays like hot arse jelly

[Anonymous No.3484359]

>>3469323
when i played, it was a rental, so I came across a save where this was already broken, though i didn't know how, so I went about finding out on my own and eventually did it with the power bomb

[Anonymous No.3484379]

>>3481643
If you wanna talk scale, you should look at ZDCMP2. That's an example of just how much you can cram into a single map, not to mention how hard you can push the engine.

But honestly, what "Metrood" really needs is an enemy replacer.

>>3481208
A moment of silence for Closetmapguy's HDD.

[Anonymous No.3484384]

>first time ever playing Super Metroid tonight

This is both the best and the worst feel.

[Anonymous No.3484854]

>>3484310
Then do better than him. Quad dare you!

[Anonymous No.3484890]

>>3483025
>>3483025
instead of particles i guess i should have said the gross mismatch of resolution of the effects and the sprites
same applies to the environment, which i called textures which is probably wrong too lol
i think i can explain the animation thing better now- it gives the impression that they just cut up samus into bits then made the bits move and rotate rather than actually animating the sprite
wtf are you on about with the graphics card? i'm just looking at the webm, gfx card has fuck all to do with that

[Anonymous No.3485058]

>>3484890
Remember the Gravity Suit glitch with AMD Radeon in version 1.0? That's an example. Another is how in the past some games would not react well with different sound cards and graphics card, having a loud buzzer at random times, or showing textured out of scale, etc.

[Anonymous No.3485415]

>>3485058
no i don't remember shit about previous versions i've never downloaded this
as i said before i'm only making observations based on the webm i originally replied to, which as i also said before, has fuck all to do with graphics cards.

[Anonymous No.3485416]

>>3485415
fuck, video not webm that's my bad

[Anonymous No.3485878]

So, maybe the reason why Samus constantly loses her equipment between mission is that it could be because she has to update her suit so that the more technology can be carried on her ever since the Unknown Items in Zero Mission, and she doesn't want that to happen ever again.
Though by doing so, some items go into the trash since the new suit cannot support them, like trying to play W98 games on W10.
Though that doesn't explain Super Metroid where she was all naked item-wise, since there's a 30 minutes split between M2 and SM, unless she could update her suit in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.3485898]

>>3485878
She's a bounty hunter. She sells that shit to space pawn shop.

[Anonymous No.3485919]

>>3484379

Dreadnought has already space pirates. but then, other creatures would be a pain to sprite in all directions, who would like to sprite kraid, crocomire or even the metroid queen

[Anonymous No.3485971]

>>3485919 What if I told you... GZDoom and Zandronum (in OpenGL mode) supports 3D Models and both ZDoom and GZDoom (at least dev builds) supports VOXELS.

So, why not use those?

[Anonymous No.3485976]

>>3485415
> Base quality on someone else's video considering GC can affect a game's quality
[RAUGHS IN CHOZODIAN]

[Anonymous No.3485980]

>>3485971
You've seen a lot of voxel monsters around?

[Anonymous No.3485982]

>>3485878
The feds confiscate all her shit every single time because she's too heavily armed, and all weapons technology is strictly regulated. She literally becomes so powerful that it's illegal.

If there was a sequel to Fusion there's possibly no reason she wouldn't start with her power-ups in tact. I feel like it would make an interesting game actually, if she somehow had to acquire new abilities on top of those, but no one seems to be able to decide what those powers should be.

[Anonymous No.3486038]

>>3485878
The canon reason for losing her equipment all the time is don't think about it.

[Anonymous No.3486060]

>>3485919
>other creatures would be a pain to sprite in all directions
You can either use 3D models converted to MD2 format, or you can render animation frames with them in Blender/3DS/SFM etc. It would be relatively easy to make sprites for monsters this way, considering we have about 3 to 5 3D Metroid titles to pull from, depending on your preferences.

[Anonymous No.3486068]

>>3485878
It could be that the relics she's using are ancient and burn out after a few hours' use.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3486140]

If Metroid were a movie, who would you cast in the lead role?

I think Jessamyn Duke would make a pretty good Samus.

[Anonymous No.3486150]

>>3485878
Maybe she just doesn't think she'll need to bring a plasma beam, screw attack, and hundreds of missiles to retrieve a baby metroid from some asshole lizard she's already killed twenty times.

[Anonymous No.3486226]

>>3485980
Not many are interested in using 3D models or Voxels as monsters for (G)ZDoom for... I dunno, no reason maybe.

[Anonymous No.3487297]

>>3481841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG4ei3it8B0
Yeah, nah. She was already video game famous from KOTOR before that though.

[Abidah Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.3487765]

[Anonymous No.3488574]

>you can use release version saves in demo
BREAK TIME

[Anonymous No.3488582]

>>3488574
Keep us informed, bby

[Anonymous No.3488584]

>>3488574
>zero negative twelve metroids remain
this is a level beyond genocide

[Anonymous No.3488619]

guess what I did

[Anonymous No.3488620]

>>3488582
Basically, you start with all your tanks in whichever area you saved. All your power are gone and most bosses, metroids, and collectibles are still there. There's no lava stopping you.

[Anonymous No.3488623]

>>3488620
Oh. Well that's kinda boring.

[Anonymous No.3488629]

>>3488574
QUEEN'S GONNA FREAK

[Anonymous No.3488736]

There we go. Collected whatever was wasn't nailed to void and killed whatever was able to kill.

[Anonymous No.3488738]

>>3488736
And forgot the screenshot.
Now I can brag about 246% completion

[Anonymous No.3489636]

>>3478828
Ow the edge.

[Anonymous No.3489917]

>>3488620
>>3488738
Can you transfer these back to the release game?

[Anonymous No.3489923]

>>3489917
No, it says your save is corrupted and deletes that shit.

[Anonymous No.3489969]

>>3489923
hilarious