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how to hate Federation Force with HUGE GUTS Edition

Previous thread: >>3418928

AM2R: Another Metroid 2 Remake and 1.1 Update Link
>Magnet: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1ee2b46502d530f716973a60a2a6f87f21128b61&dn=AM2R%5F11

Super Metroid: Zero Mission

Metroid: Dreadnought aka Metroid DOOM + Suggested maps to play(You will need the latest Gzdoom, Zandronum or Zdoom stable builds to play it, visit Doom general for troubleshooting)
>Metroid Dreadnought: http://www.moddb.com/mods/metroid-dreadnought
>Valiant: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/71704-valiant-wad-now-on-idgames/
>The Island: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35894
>Stardate: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/stardate
>Back to Saturn X 1&2: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69960-back-to-saturn-x-episode-2-public-beta-2-critical-map15-fixes-included/

Metroid Database and Wiki

Gameplay order for new fans

>> No.3439016

What are the point of playing rom hacks when none will surpass Super Metroid

>> No.3439017 [DELETED] 

Why skip the 1st games?
>Even of the original NES GAME WAS GREAT, Time itself wasn't generous with him, the same goes to metroid 2, which was a Magazine made game thus kept exclusive to GB to increase sells, Both games were great, but Zero Mission and AM2R updated them

Why skip Other M?
>it has a bad plot, a bad gameplay, which is a bad ripoff of god of war and soul reaver 2 and horrible voice acting and bad characterization, if you ask why for any Metroid fan, they will say: They turned samus into a whinny bitch instead of the badass Bounty hunter that she was before, THE BABY THE BABY, ADAM, PTSD's EVERYWHERE, You need permission to use the varia suit, and etc.

Why skip Federation force, if it was released Recently?
>Same as above but the damage made everyone more bitter towards Nintendo, Followed by the Giant middle finger to the fans on the 30th anniversary, the community itself is rather divided atm, but most of them hates the game, and most of the gaming websites are rating the game as mediocre and bad.

Last Question, WHY DOOM 2016, That game inst a metroid game?
>in a strange twist of fate, maybe its the chozo last gift to all fans along with AM2R, The Doom 2016/Doom 4 made almost everyone of the Metroid community rejoice in glee, as the game itself ended up being a Spiritual sequel of Metroid Prime series, which was originally a love letter to the Doom Games, as the Doomguy was created based on Samus, which was confirmed by old id crew itself. Ironically, most of the Doom's new lore mixes both of Metroid and the Classic Doom games lore, Even the Praetor Suit looks something made out of the Varia and Legendary Power Suit, also its origin, thus there's an special easter egg for all metroid fans at VEGA central processing. if you love prime series, thus you're looking for something made with passion for both communities, this game is for you.

>> No.3439031 [DELETED] 

Protrays women as most women, cycks get mad at alternative reality samus.

>> No.3439079

Because they can get damn close.
Hyper Metroid is fucking fantastic.
Same with Z-Factor, and while I wouldn't say it for the original Redesign, the updated "Axiel Edition" is pretty damn good.

>> No.3439123

I have a hacked 3DS and even I don't want to touch Federation Force.

>> No.3439125

I like AM2R better to be honest

>> No.3439225


Metroid 2 is virtually unplayable nowadays, unless you have a lot of patience

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Can this be skipped?

>> No.3439250


come back later when you get speed booster and screw attack

>> No.3439251

The speed booster is just in two rooms over, I'm asking if the upgrade can be skipped

>> No.3439283

What in the...?

A Metroid general styled after the Doom general? "Doom 4 is a Metroid game"?

This is surreal. Am I dreaming?

>> No.3439303


nope, you're not :)

now we need someone to post the prime manga, and the best hack lists for SM, zero mission and Fusion

>> No.3439306

Wait, Zero Mission and Fusion and Prime aren't retro.

Wait, Doom? Huh?

>> No.3439317

>Why skip the 1st games?
>>Even if the original NES GAME WAS GREAT, Time itself wasn't generous with him, the same goes to metroid 2, which was a Magazine made game thus kept exclusive to GB to increase sells, Both games were great, but Zero Mission and AM2R updated them

>> No.3439324 [DELETED] 

Yeah, this Metroid General is already shit.

>> No.3439349

Nes metroid is great.

>> No.3439350

>/vr/ creates a organized metroid general after years
>/vr/ creates a general guide for new players too as doom general does it all time
>/v/ comes to shitpost and say that AM2R, romhack and general is bad and everyone should play Metroid 2 on GB with bad controls and dated gameplay that makes even the most retro player cringe in hatred
>/v/ also hates Metroid Prime but praises Federation Force
>The circlejerk bait continues until the janitor shows up and bans the samefags from /v/ as they do on /vg/

just another fine day here on 4chan

>> No.3439357

Where does this meme come from? It fixes the annoying energy farming by giving you life recharching spots, and the layouts are still simple enough for you to map your way through the game. I'm enjoying it a lot more than 1, it actually feels like some sort of proto Super Metroid.

>> No.3439358

>Skip Metroid 1 and 2
Hell no, the originals are great.

>> No.3439371

None of that has happened.

It's weird that half of the OP is about Doom.

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Darkholme Hospital
Escape II
Golden Dawn
Hyper Metroid
Ice Metal: Uninstall
Mockingbird Station
Phazon Hack
Project Base
Redesign: Axiel Edition
Revolution EX
Super Zero Mission
Wet Dream Extended

There aren't any good hacks for Zero Mission and Fusion.
You can find everything at Metroid Construction: http://www.metroidconstruction.com/

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>> No.3439410

Some are pretty good. Gives you the similar "where the hell am I and where do I go?" feeling that Metroid 3 did. New maps, sometimes new physics, and new gameplay. Maybe you could try some of them out and actually play a game or two before asking what's the point and being a no-fun nigger. Just saying.

>> No.3439414

>Time itself wasn't generous with him


Also I didn't know about that doom connection. Never really got into the prime series but that is still pretty fuckin cool.

>> No.3439417

>Metroid Prime
>love letter to the Doom games

>> No.3439448

It would be much better for the board and the thread if you could contribute relevant content instead of being a naysaying no-fun nigger.

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Is there a GNU/Linux ips patch application? I have an XP partition on my netbook but I would rather use an operating system that respects my freedom. ;^)

>> No.3439474

AM2R is a fine game, made with love and care.

But to say "avoid the classics" is kind of a crappy mindset.

Also, I'm pretty sure hating Metroid Prime is a sin, but it's NOT RETRO so whatever. Federation Force looks fun.

>> No.3439476

>I'm pretty sure hating Metroid Prime is a sin, but it's NOT RETRO
On the contrary...

>> No.3439493

Yeah everyone should play the originals. Especially 1 because of the secret worlds. When I found out about that I shat bricks. Everyone thinks Metroid 3 is tbe epitome of eerie and surreal, but the secrets worlds win that hands down imho.

>> No.3439540

I see what you did there.

>> No.3439720

I like how relaxed samus's arm is in fusion

>> No.3439725

Why the fuck is this here and not /vg/.
AM2R is not retro.

>> No.3439728

it says metroid general that just mentions AM2R, and metroid is /vr/

>> No.3439729

>remake of a retro game
>not retro
man, you couldn't BE more wrong

>> No.3439739

Wrong, no-fun nigger. Delete this and stop trying to look smart in front of the cool kids.

>> No.3439834

So hypothetically, would DM64 be able to release the assets for AM2R so that other people could use them for Metroid homebrew? I have no idea how GM works but could the sprites/scripts/engine be shared easily?

>> No.3439839

Zero Mission is so incredibly ugly because of that awful manga artstyle they used. The creator of AM2R did a really good job of mixing the best qualities of Super and ZM sprites together.

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some dumb faggot keep going into /v/ Metroid threads and tells those underage redditors to come here

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>every /v/ metroid thread
>at some point one mouthbreathing retard says /v/ is shit and that everyone that wants REAL metroid discussion should come to /vr/
>every underage reddit /v/ kiddy comes to /vr/ to shitpost

who the fuck does that

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hey hey, it's screenshot saturday

post your dev progress, your wip, bugs, the stuff you've been working on

>> No.3439929 [DELETED] 

Holy shit. Fuck off to /vg/.

>> No.3440002

He already stated he won't share the assets, Kind of a prick move.

Is it possible to patch a vanilla Super Metroid rom with both Control Freak's controls patch AND a hack like Super Zero Mission or would that send everything out of whack?

>> No.3440003


If memory serves right, Super Zero Mission already has the control freak's patch built in.

You can somersault in the air, shoot/get hurt, hit jump again and continue flipping

>> No.3440004

what's the point of living if you know you've already reached your peak and it's all downhill from there

>> No.3440020

according to the readme of SZM he indeed changed the jumping mechanics, but I really wanted CF for the ZM/Fusionlike button layout for missiles, and the readme doesn't mention them

>> No.3440119


maybe is because SM and SNES cant hold that

its like megaman X3 zero romhack, you can play as zero but you don't have the sword attacks for the bosses weapons, its just a sprite swap

>> No.3440151

Who's to say we have reached our peak.

>> No.3440165

>remake resident evil 2 for current consoles
Welp, guess we can talk about that here now.

>> No.3440180

AM2R attracted the biggest morons to this board, didn't it? Now you get people claiming that Metroid and Metroid 2 are unplayable unless you play remakes and no one calling them out for their bullshit.
Anyway, generals belong on /vg/.

>> No.3440191

Oh, get over it. Metroid I and II have aged like milk compared to Super and aren't the timeless classics some people think they are.

>> No.3440193

Metroid 1 and 2 are fine games, by telling new players to avoid the originals and play the remakes is a shame. That's a shitty way to go about it.

>> No.3440196

Please do us all a favor and go back to /v/. You clearly don't appreciate retro games, so what are you thinking posting on this board?

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They're still important landmarks in Metroid history, as well as the genre as whole.

I wouldn't recommend either for a NEW player though, Zero Mission is an excellent way to gain some bearing on the Metroid franchise and the genre.

Ideally I would say the best order for a new guy to play the Metroid games would be

Zero Mission
The Prime trilogy
then dip further back with the original and Metroid 2

All of the Metroid games deserve some love. Even the spinoffs like pinball and hunters.

>> No.3440208

They've gotten better since they are no longer limited to shitty displays.

>> No.3440221

but I like Metroid 2

>> No.3440228

>play Zero Mission first
>canned shinesparks and bad walljumping is okay for a newbie
literally any metroid would be better than zero mission to start

everyone should start with either Metroid or Super Metroid

even Metroid Prime would be a better place to start than zero Mission

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it might be a fluke but I have a friend of mine that was so retarded he got stumped on shooting the super missile blocks to find Kraid's lair.

Zero Mission is borderline retard proof and a good way to ease even the biggest dummies into Metroid, if they like the game, then they can go straight into Super.

>> No.3440241

I disagree. The first two Metroid games don't have any substantive merits at this point other than being pioneering titles. That's not really enough to warrant playing them for the sake of retro novelty. I mean, really, why would anyone want to put up with shit like Metroid I's copypasted rooms, shitty password system, or having to start with 30 energy every time you boot up them damn game? And Metroid II's even worse with its half-empty tunnels and repetitive mini-boss fights, despite all the improvements in made in controls and gameplay. They're just not fun games anymore.

>> No.3440248

So guys I know this isn't exactly Metroid, but, I think I found the example game that would show how Metroid 64 would of played.

The game itself is called The Divide Enemies Within. You play as a guy in a mech exploration suit waking up hundreds of years after a disaster and now how to survive the new world he is in.

It is a very surreal experience if you're a Metroid fan. I picked up my copy for 2 dollars in mint condition. It is for both the PlayStation 1 and PC. I think there is an article where the devs themselves stated that Super Metroid was their main inspiration for it. Definitely given it a shot.

>> No.3440279

>Super Zero Mission
What version of the Super Metroid ROM do I use for this hack?

>> No.3440303


the japanese/eng rom supports it


and you /v/fags should stop with the shitposting

if you like it or not, this thread belongs to /vr/

/vg/ its already full of /v/, Reddit and tumblr autistic nintendofags loving other M and Federation force

and even if this thread was created there, they would say that this belongs to /vr/ or nintendo general

>> No.3440307

You can legit get stuck on it if you miss a map station, which you can't go back to. This way you have no other way of knowing the way than randomly bombing shit.

>> No.3440309

me too

>> No.3440310

>I read too many video game reviews and think that's how to actually talk about them the post

>> No.3440312

metroid 1 would be better if killing a boss didn't shower you with missiles

so much of the game's exploration revolves around finding missile tanks, which don't matter because ridley is a shitter and you can just gun him down for 75 missiles

>> No.3440328

>stop disliking what I like the post

>> No.3440331 [DELETED] 

pretty sure this garbage copy paste of gba sprites in game maker is discussed plenty on /v/. so no, you don't have to shit up what should be a decent board with your shitty fangame if you don't even actually like retro games.

>> No.3440347 [DELETED] 

now that a bait shitposting

>> No.3440362

That doesn't make any sense. If you killed enemies if you went along you'd always be at full missile capacity.

>> No.3440476

Speak for yourself, your whining doesn't count as actual critique.

>> No.3440486

It depends on the hack. Hacks that change how Samus moves, even with something as simple as the ability to go back into a spin, will get overwritten and potentially break the hack when patched with Control Freak.

IIRC, Super Zero Mission is one of the ones that breaks with Control Freak.

Control freak doesn't include that ability.

>> No.3440536

appreciating retro games merely for the sake of being retro is completely fucking retarded
I'm a retard with no arguments and I must post

>> No.3440558

Control Freak rarely gets along with hacks that make their own changes to Samus's mechanics. Doesn't work at all with AngryFireChozo, for instance. It does surprisingly well with SZM -- the result is actually playable (which can't be said for Redesign with CF). But it overwrites both the rechargeable shinespark and respin.

>> No.3440563


>> No.3440605

>I read too many video game reviews and think that's how to actually talk about them the post
>Speak for yourself, your whining doesn't count as actual critique.
Getting some mixed messages here, folks. Heheh.

>> No.3440737 [DELETED] 

You don't appreciate Metroid 1 & 2 solely because they're retro but because they're decent games on their own and helped start the series and are worth playing. Saying to play the remakes only which aren't retro on /vr/ is completely fucking retarded. You might as well go to /v/ and start a metroid thread there, since we don't need generals to discuss Super Metroid and rom hacks aren't retro.

>> No.3440806 [DELETED] 


what did you say, was dumb as

>the battlenet version of warcraft 2 int retro, i'll play dos with the non cd soundtrack
>Doom sourceports and mods aren't retro and they are shit shit, i'll play only DosBox Doom

you guys are just shitposting

>> No.3441370 [DELETED] 

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion.

>> No.3441375

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion?

>> No.3441380 [DELETED] 

Does anybody here like Metroid: Fusion!

>> No.3441387

I like the atmosphere, but it's too linear for me.

>> No.3441431

I love metroid fusion, probably my favorite metroid other than AM2R

I know a lot of people's favorite metroid, it has a fantastic world, gameplay is great, the story is decent and it has lots of cool gameplay secrets, like the crystal flash and the charge beam stuff

but I had some issues with conveyance with Super metroid and I never had that issue with other metroid games

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Which Metroid game is this metroid from?

>> No.3441453

>the one for ants

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Fuck bomb jumps and fuck Wall jumps. It's 4am and I've been stuck in that bitchass sand level from Super Metroid for an eternity.

>> No.3441698

Ah, takes some time getting used to, but that's the fun of it. You need to time when you can do a circle jump. Atleast that's what I do.

>> No.3441761

Getting stuck is the fun part you mong

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If you're going to link Valiant, you should be using the Vaccinated Edition for compatibility.
>The Island
Maximum nah.

Try these:

>> No.3441982

you have to roll into a hole on the ground with the crabs that you cant see, I would blame the game for this, but the x-ray exists

the problem with that is later in the game you have to go through a false wall that even the x-ray cant see

>> No.3441987

I beat all the 2D metroids but I never got into the prime series

hopefully I can find a proper mouse and keyboard configuration because I am not using a controller

>> No.3442001 [DELETED] 

Shut the fuck up, bitch.

>> No.3442412

You'd need a hack like the goldeneye n64 mouse hack. But even then it'd still be a bad game.

>> No.3442483


too bad that no one can rebuild the game on UE4 without nintendo of AMERICA going apeshit

>> No.3442501

now heres a small project that is a bit more ambitious than AM2R


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>> No.3442521

The HUD looks cool, but what makes it more ambitious than AM2R?

>> No.3442526


complete reimaginating of metroid fusion

as a super metroid ROM hack. so all of this is done within the constraints of SNES limitations.

>> No.3442534

Ah. Breddy coo.

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>am2r took 10 years
>MFW this wont be finished until 2025

>> No.3443041

I fucking love Fusion. It controls perfectly, has great boss patterns, and is pretty spooky compared to most of the other games.

Shame about the story though.

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The work he's done so far is astounding.

>> No.3443150

Would be awesome if saxes would show off secret techniques, it could be a tutorial for new players.

>fight sax, almost win
>crystal flash out of fucking nowhere

>chain shinespark based boss battle

>> No.3443401 [DELETED] 

>not wall jumping
>not bomb jumping
>not fun allowed

fuck this gay game

>> No.3443416 [DELETED] 


ok /v/fag, nice bait

>> No.3443425 [DELETED] 

but you fucking cant nerd

>> No.3443432 [DELETED] 

Metroid Fusion is actually my favorite Metroid even despite those problems.

>> No.3444047

and here's another Metroid 2 remake


>> No.3444056

I doubt anything will be better than AM2R to be honest

>> No.3444071

my honest opinion is that metroid 2 is already better than am2r

>> No.3444075


>> No.3444081


nice bait /v/irgin

>> No.3444104 [DELETED] 

Let me know when they fix AM2R to not have cringeworthy artificial difficulty Metroid battles requiring typical modern gamer cheapass tactics instead of actual skill, like the original.

>> No.3444106

Honestly the best part about AM2R was the backgrounds. Mediocre music. Awkward boss fights. Queen fight is a big let down. Puzzles are too easy. A distinct lack of large rooms that aren't either ruin exteriors or Metroid nests. There's a little bit too much direction, you don't get to lose your bearings often enough. The beam weapon is too weak. By and large bosses take too many hits. The maximum firing rate for missiles and beams is too slow. Bosses don't allow for enough alternative strategy in the way you combat them. When you actually kill a metroid it's not very satisfying. Too many morphball mazes. Game is rarely if ever scary or unsettling.

It might be better than Zero Mission or Metroid 1

It is not better than Metroid 2, Super, or Fusion

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>artificial difficulty Metroid battles
what a spicy meme

>> No.3444109 [DELETED] 

Ah yes, the word 4chan kids trot out every time they encounter someone that knows what the fuck they're talking about to hide their ignorance.

>> No.3444110

>every other missle will get deflected
>super missile gets deflected every time
>can't alternate them or anything like that
>most reliable way to get a super missile in is to go melee and eat a claw swipe for each one

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>mfw I go to /vr/ expecting actual discussion instead of /v/ shit flinging

whelp, I don't know what I expected

>> No.3444128

how stubborn should i be about not using guides or maps on metroid 1 and 2? i get lost for long enough that i don't pick up the game for a while and then it gets worse
how mad did y'all get when you saw the federation force samus cameo? my blood pressure is already too high but nintendo doesn't care

>> No.3444136

and yet you contribute nothing of your own

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How in the shit...?

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shienspark from outside, store it on the incline, drop a bomb then shinespark horizontally

>> No.3444380

Thanks m8, god I hate shinesparking so much. Also, where do you access the room in your vid? I've been there but had to quit the game before I got the missile, now I can't remember where it was.

>> No.3444381

top right of the map

>> No.3444383

Shinesparking is gr8 m8

I still remember when I got the super secret in Metroid Fusion, felt like my hands were moving faster than my thoughts

did it on a real life DS exactly once

never been able to do it since, not on real hardware, not on emulator

>> No.3444397

Thx bb

I just don't think the mechanic works well with the gameplay style. Metroid is about exploring and taking your time working things out rather than pixel-perfect maneuvering. I mean yeah there's always a puzzle element with any shinespark, but more often than not you'll spend a couple of minutes working it out and a couple of hours trying to execute the bloody thing. The game doesn't even teach you the fundamentals like storing charges, using slopes, morph sparking etc.

>> No.3444404

>The game doesn't even teach you the fundamentals like storing charges, using slopes, morph sparking etc.
that's why it's fun

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Gentle reminder that the Chozo statues in Zero mission were marked with a bird head on the map, but unless you looked close it looked like simply a red circle with a shine. I made that mistake too, and it seems like the AM2R guy made it too.

>> No.3444804

God now I wanna play Metroid again, fuck you guys

I've only ever played Zero Mission, what should I know if I want to play Metroid II? How difficult will the map making be? I've done it for Wizardry before but like, literally only the first floor

>> No.3444810

Expect a somewhat similar experience to Super metroid, only more of being confused of where to go. Not a strong title in the series, but still worth playing.

>> No.3444882


play metroid II then AM2R

1.2 may come soon

>> No.3444954

What metroid games to play on a new 3ds?

>> No.3444970

Okay, so I'm having some real issues with the queen fight. I've got the attack patterns down so I can get through to the fourth room with a good amount of health left, but I keep running out of missiles. I've got 230 regular and 18 super, is this really not enough? I've completely cleared the map of (marked) items so I'm not sure what more I can do.

>> No.3445072

let her eat you. what to do next should be obvious

>> No.3445110

Shoot those spiky things a few times for energy and more missiles then scoop them up by charging the beam. You should be doing that all along.

>> No.3445116

Oh shit, had no idea you could shoot them with your beam since missiles just bounce off them and screw attack is the easiest way to dodge them. I'm an idiot.

>> No.3445125

Flinging bombs at her with the charge beam is pretty effective, but you should just be doing what >>3445110 said.

>> No.3445381

metroid, metroid 2, and super metroid are on virtual console
you can emulate all of the above and also play fusion and zero mission if you have homebrew
metroid prime hunters if you have the cart or a flashcart

>> No.3445462

How the fuck are you running out of missiles when your stock is that large
I could understand running out if you had less than that, or were playing on hard, but you've got literally no excuse

>> No.3445472
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>Play Redesign: Axiel Edition
>was fun
>play Z-Factor after
>completely lost
fuck Axiel Edition, fuck it's perfect map subscreen, and fuck it's Zebes Express

>> No.3445476

Redesign Axiel Edition does a lot of things right, but I dropped it because I was irritated of being lost every 5 minutes

>> No.3445481

but it tells you exactly where to go

>> No.3445483

not really, it implemented stuff you couldnt do in the initial game like going through tubes which was cool, but was frustrating me

I got lost a lot in super metroid as well so yeah

>> No.3445486

>game implements it's own hint system that tells you points of interest, exactly where you have seen power bomb and speed booster blocks, and exactly where all the chozo guardians are
>"not really"

>> No.3445509

>exactly where you have seen power bomb and speed booster block
doest do that, the hint system just point to somewhere on the map, not specifically where shit is

there were also pits that you could get out without me restarting the game

Redisgn is cool, but too frustrating for me

>> No.3445514

I didn't realise you could refill by shooting the spores. When I did that I beat her straight away.

I dropped it after spending an hour trying to get up the first long walljump section. That's some seriously bullshit level design.

>> No.3445520

Some '???' markers put you in a spot where it was obvious where to go next. MOST were put right on top of the next item to collect or boss to fight.
And there are no inescapable pits in Axiel Edition.

You're nuts, m8.

>> No.3445521

>auto walljump
>had to spend an hour doing it

>> No.3445531

>auto walljump

>> No.3445701

I know this is off topic but I remembered with Sakamoto said about the ending of Fusion about what happened when she absorbed the SA-X. At first when he said she reconstructed her genetic condition I thought he meant she was back to normal but then I read up on vaccines and gene therapy along with looking at the reconstructed Space Pirate base on Zebes in Super and that's when I came to the conclusion that Samus's Chozo and Metroid DNA fused into one. This means she has all of her traits from Metroid 1-3 and her X absorbing ability from Metroid 4.

>> No.3445901

She became the Doomslayer, the chozo walker, the scource of pirates and galactic federation

if Fusion someday receives a sequel, prepare to see something based on DOOM 2016 plot and the newest Alien

Fusion, FF and "yuck"other M already gave hints that the GF went full UAC, wit the idea of creating monsters for their army using metroids and whatever they are dabbling now

Expect adam to be something in the lines of Samuel Hayden, and let samus do the dirty work, until he finds a way to ditch her out of his plans

>> No.3445970

Axiel Edition rewrote the Wall Jump code so that you just had to hold jump and press away from a wall, and that was it.
It's basically like Other M's Wall Jump, except instead of holding a single direction and pressing jump multiple times, you held jump and alternated directions.

>> No.3445973

She never lost her traits from 1-3, she had just gained a weakness to cold from the Metroid vaccine.
Absorbing the SA-X removed that flaw.

>> No.3445989

I only have 95% complete in AM2R. Anyone have the 100% completion map?

>> No.3445996

She was also weak in her defense, SA-X also fixed that.

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>> No.3446151

the days of /vr/ being a low key board are gone. Now we're being shuffled into busy general threads where conversation will stifle down to memes.

>> No.3446158

Isn't that 1.0?
Seems like a warp is missing.

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Jesus Christ.

>> No.3446207

But that's missing the

>see >>3446158
Oh. Never mind. He splained it. I thought my eyes were derpy because when I loaded my file after updating to 1.1, I saw this new room I never noticed before. Guess it was just that 1.1 adds a few areas. Fun.

>> No.3446247

Considering how little the map changes, I didn't feel the need to update it. I'm sure there are updated versions out there, though.

>> No.3446275

Makes sense. 1.2 might have some more changes, like that one warp pipe you can't actually get into right now.

>> No.3446398

Liam from TBFP says he really liked Federation Force, both single and multiplayer.

Will /v/ finally stop liking him now? That's like when Woolie became the official Other M apologist.

>> No.3446405
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How do I get past this? There's no way to build up momentum easily except outside the room but when I get in there's a power bomb wall blocking the way.

>> No.3446409

horizontally shinespark from outside through the door, use the incline inside as a ramp and reset the charge, plant the bomb then shine spark horizontally

>> No.3446487

Think outside the box.

>> No.3446516

Thanks. This helped.

>> No.3446520

>spoonfeeding this much

>> No.3446603

Literally posted like 30 posts earlier in this thread.

>> No.3446786


>> No.3446972

> literally literally

>> No.3447405

It's like you never got Zero Mission 100%.

>> No.3449247

If you were to create your own metroid upgrade, what would it be and how would you implement it gameplay wise?

>> No.3449278

New bread

>> No.3449370

>350 posts early

>> No.3449452

Link this post to him so he can do a 2 minute update to 1.11

>> No.3449730

Map isn't high res enough

>> No.3449969

I think they're meant to be circles like the things the items are held in before they're broken open.

>> No.3450090
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Huh. He's right.
But I've noticed that Zero Mission's bird heads are irregularly shaped, and appear to be shifted left or right depending on the room layout so as to not obscure any connections on the map. See the location of the Bombs, and the hint statue three levels up and to the right for example.

I'd say that DM64 went with the ball for simplicity's sake, rather than having to deal with multiple tiles for the same thing which could potentially obscure a connection anyway.

>> No.3450817
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>> No.3452063

metroid 1 would be better if you didn't have to grind forever to get some energy/missiles.

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imagine if all of them were released at the same time...

>> No.3452147

wait should one really play super metroid before am2r? I guess it would make sense story wise but wouldnt having played SM first make more sense gameplay wise?

>> No.3452161


AM2R is Metroid 2, SM is metroid III

if you're playing for the sake of history, welp... poor baby :(

>> No.3452175

no im aware and not playing for sake of history, just thought that maybes one would enjoy am2r more having played SM

>> No.3452251

>he didn't play Zero Mission

>> No.3453098


Shit, I didn't even recognize that. That's cool.

>> No.3453123

Not a lot of people did.
And nearly no one recognized Nightmare's hand. I certainly didn't. It took some other Anon doing some photoshop magic to get me to recognize the part. That was a puzzling mystery.

>> No.3453627
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Actually guys, upgrades in Zero Mission was marked with a Blue Dot, which changed into the Bird Head once it was picked up.

Bird Heads marked statues that held no upgrade, since they could be used to recharge ammo and energy.

>> No.3453632
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The Power Grip is a special case since the statue at it's location doesn't become a recharge station. Instead of becoming a Bird Head, the room is marked with a White Dot.

As you can see, the Blue Dot from the previous screenshot (Plasma Beam) has turned into a Bird Head.

>> No.3453662
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Best Metroid toy?

>> No.3453684

Y'know, I always disliked how Retro tackled Metroids in 3D.
Just having the mandibles hanging off the bottom, completely separated from the membrane just looks kinda off, whereas the 2D versions of Metroids all had the mandibles partially encased within the bottom of the membrane.

>> No.3454362
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Which boss was your favorite? I really loved when this guy popped up out of nowhere.

>> No.3454369

I did, but I didn't 100% it, because some of the shinesparking was painful to me

>> No.3454501


the torizo fight was great

the cyber pancake was a pain, and the Queen fight was nice, mainly with this music to make your blood run faster


>> No.3454819

Do you know where you are? You might be fucking retarded, have you been tested?

>> No.3454821

>which you can't go back to
Yes you can.

>> No.3454854

180th for RoS a best

>> No.3454857

It and fusion are literally the most linear games in the franchise. It's a long tube.

>> No.3454858

linear with lots of bosses/minibosses > nonlinear NEStroid rehash

>> No.3454880

Did you read the post I was quoting, or are you simple?
>similar experience to Super metroid, only more of being confused of where to go. Not a strong title in the series, but still worth playing
>only more of being confused of where to go.
Metroid 2 was not confusing in the slightest. And whether or not you like it, it ranks with Fusion for linearity. So please read before you respond. At least in 2 no one held your dick or told you where to go.

>> No.3454931

Yes, I read the post. Doesn't change my opinion, autist

>> No.3455016 [DELETED] 

>decides to spout an unrelated opinion
>calls someone else an autist
Sure thing bwui.

>> No.3455021 [DELETED] 

>was directly about the genre of game being discussed
Okay kiddo, sorry being 20 isn't working out for you.

>> No.3455045 [DELETED] 

>Fusion being a game removed by 10+ years of hw is more fleshed out and a better game than one that it's predecessor
No shit retard. It's cute that you have to resort to age bashing a 29 year old about being young. Especially when he's not saying anything negative about babby's first Metroid. Which you've more or less implied by how adamant you're defending it. So cool your jets and go to a board that's actually intended to discuss post 2000 games. You might get a warmer reception there in your precious hug box.

>> No.3455063 [DELETED] 


>> No.3455071 [DELETED] 

Nice retort.

>> No.3455081 [DELETED] 

You as well, fellow /r/edditor!

>> No.3455182 [DELETED] 

shit general, shit fanbase

>> No.3455253 [DELETED] 

>get told
>"I'll just tell them they're shit, that'll show them!"

>> No.3455393 [DELETED] 
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So how often do you guys fap to Samus?

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Boy I sure like this inline extension.

>> No.3456195 [DELETED] 

>get told
I sure did, laddie. You sure showed me, wew. Thank goodness this wasn't reddit, otherwise my account could have been besmirched forever

>> No.3456197 [DELETED] 

Metroid fans can't fap to Samus, that would objectify her. They have to be cucks, you see?

>> No.3456248 [DELETED] 

doesn't masturbating make you a cuck by default

>> No.3456252

Why did Super Metroid drop the level of difficulty seen in both its predecessors? The hardest thing about it is the the platforming segments.


>> No.3456296 [DELETED] 

If you're masturbating you're pretty much wasting your jizz and spilling it on the ground while someone else is fucking one of the billions of available orifices in the world.

Being a cuck basically means you are not having sex while someone else is, as a result of their perceived success and your own perceived failure. By that measure, every time you dump your jizz in anything other than a human orifice or upon a human body, you are a cuck, because you could have had sex instead if you hadn't somehow fucked up.

I suppose to really be a cuck you would have to also want to have sex or want to be like the person who is having sex, so you probably couldn't be a cuck if you were completely asexual or only masturbated to inanimate objects.

>> No.3456315


There's a Metroid toy? Fuck man that's one of the few vidya things I'd want in my house

>> No.3456323


Definitely serris. I had to pause the game because I was having a little fucking fit of joy. I was smiling during the whole fight

>> No.3456326 [DELETED] 


>this whole post

Boy howdy I can't wait till the internet stops being obsessed with this shitty fetish. I'd welcome foot fags at this point

>> No.3456362 [DELETED] 

You're absolutely right. Now lube up and bend over for us.

>> No.3456408 [DELETED] 

That's not what a cuck is. At all.

>> No.3456415 [DELETED] 

Oh well why don't you tell me what it really is then

>> No.3456420 [DELETED] 


I'm replying to one

>> No.3456427 [DELETED] 

oh ok let me know when you're done then you can tell me

I also keep a lot of tabs and stuff open sometimes

>> No.3456452 [DELETED] 

It's a man whose gf/wife is getting boned by another man. Jacking off has nothing to do with it unless the cuckold is jacking off to his SO getting fucked. Cuckoldry requires a relationship. What you described was voyeurism.

>> No.3456562 [DELETED] 

but if you're getting cucked you're really not in a relationship with that person

>> No.3456639

Metroid 2 is only unplayable if you're a casual bitch that's been coddled by modern video games.

>> No.3456901 [DELETED] 

>this thread
I thought I was in /vr/, not /v/

>> No.3456905 [DELETED] 

This fanbase is shit anywhere, not just /v/

>> No.3456906 [DELETED] 

Ayyo wtf is going on with op pic
Zero suit sexy adventure time samus is

>> No.3456912 [DELETED] 

the entire previous thread and first bit of this thread would argue otherwise

>> No.3456913 [DELETED] 


>> No.3456980 [DELETED] 

If by "fanbase" you mean "shitters that harass metroid threads" then yes.

>> No.3457017 [DELETED] 

nice rebuttal

>> No.3457740
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Remember kids

if you fap to samus, you fap to kim basinger at her peak

>> No.3457751
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I still have her Batman poster.

>> No.3457791

Metroid has always felt like a lonely series, I think that's why I liked it so much growing up

>> No.3457873
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Tower, first time playing, picked hard mode.

I've figured out zeta Metroids i think but my anus was not prepared for bullet hell space jumping.

>> No.3458059

You only need a regular jump to get behind a Zeta.

>> No.3458060

Torizo and Tester. Serris was just boring.

>> No.3458063
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>core temperature spikes

>> No.3458343

I meant the tower boss.

>> No.3458349

now post other m's :^)

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>core temperature maxes out as the blast doors are slowly opening

>> No.3458507

>if you fap to samus, you fap to kim basinger at her peak

Is this a bad thing?

She was gorgeous in the '80s.

>> No.3458515

>Is this a bad thing?
Not at all, I still find her fuckable to be honest

>> No.3458671

What are some 2D platformers with movement systems as deep as Super Metroid?

Seeing how speedrunners play the game shows just how much intricacy there is to controlling Samus, between all the powerups, hidden skills and other tricks. What other games are like this?

>> No.3458698


>til they changed her look in fusion and forward to look more like christina applegate in married with children...

>> No.3458727

I prefer the original Metroid II to AM2R.

>> No.3458729


That's fine.

>> No.3458756

Me too friendo. That atmosphere

>> No.3459014

ive only ever played zero mission as a kid now finishing up AM2R, will i be dissapointed by comparison when going to SM next?

>> No.3459019


Super Metroid is a bit clumsier than ZM and AM2R due to its age. The physics and controls might feel off.

However, it far exceeds both games when it comes to atmosphere and exploration. If the controls really get on your nerves, give the Control Freak patch a try.

>> No.3459070

thanks will keep it in mind
goddamn AM2R feels so silky smooth it even makes ZM feel clumsy back to back

>> No.3459097
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zm missile scheme is clumsy unless you're playing with a joypad

AM2R works great with a keyboard

>> No.3459248

Yea its honestly worst of 2d 4some.
Just go onto fusion, or play prime trilogy.

Metroid Prime is just a better super in 3d anyways, (Get the trilogy edition of the games though!)

>> No.3459283

Symphony of the Night is the obvious answer

I think most of the Castlevania games are satisfying to control, even if they aren't as deep

>> No.3459284
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>Metroid Prime is just a better super in 3d anyways

>> No.3459292


>can't play FPS with exploration

>> No.3459329

Prime felt vanilla to the extreme for some reason. I always enjoyed its sequels more.

>> No.3459415

>he thinks metroid without acrobatics is still metroid

it's not just about spelunking

>> No.3459448

Door's on the left.

>> No.3459452

fuck off, child

>> No.3459491

You'd have to have some warped priorities to think a dinky GB title is better than something as polished as AM2R.

>> No.3459497

This fight between originals and remakes feels so fucking forced. Does anyone else feel that way? Like its just being manufactured to get these threads shut down for no fucking reason.

>> No.3459512



>> No.3459552
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Arguing is the point of all threads video game related. Without an argument it's just an open exchange of ideas and thoughts and information, and who wants that?

I say you guys have your priorities ass backwards.

>> No.3459578

So I don't usually come to these threads, but this is a Metroid general, right? And there's absolutely no discussion for Federation Force? Is it just that boring and shitty of a game that nobody even wants to talk about it?

>> No.3459584

by george, i think he's got it

>> No.3459587


You came for the ass, don't even lie yo

>> No.3459590

haha i can imagine the pain too good.

>> No.3459592

I won't deny that.

>> No.3459593

Well, this is /vr/, but there's really not much to discuss about FF. Even the prime 4 cliffhanger at the end is just the same shit from prime 3.

>> No.3459609

Yes, this is /vr/, but I don't see a dedicated Metroid general thread on /vg/, so if Prime 4 or something ever does come out never ever, I would assume you guys would be talking about it here.

I figured that's the case, looks like the game's not even interesting enough to induce that much rage from Metroid fans.

>> No.3459619

>prime 4 cliffhanger
jfc nintendo

>> No.3459656

It could be anything, honestly. It's just another few seconds of Sylux doing a thing.

>> No.3459730

I agree, but thats what I love about it.

I wouldn't ever want it to have any more gimmicks than it currently does. Its good to have at least 1 3d Metroid game that is fully generic.

>> No.3459865

and welp


>> No.3459912

I've been dicking around making a romhack for Super Metroid off and on for months now. Every time I go back to it I make a little change here and there.

My goal has to open the world up to remove the "intended" sequence as much as I can, so that people can actually explore and get lost. New players wouldn't be as railroaded and experienced players would have fewer obstacles in their way.

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>some faggot youtuber that just talks about bullshit

>> No.3461080

needs to be an edit with "let me tell you why that's bait"

>> No.3461273

>get space jump in AM2R
>now have two paths open, one of which is a room where there's breakable stuff and one of the chozo things activated by morph ball. but the door doesn't work in the room
>the other requires powerbombs
>been to every square on the map I can see

I'm not sure if the door is bugged or if I'm actually just an idiot. Its probably the latter, but I'm just totally lost.

>> No.3461346


where are you?

>> No.3461415

Consult Map: >>3445997

>> No.3461437


turns out I WAS just being an idiot

>> No.3461715
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Okay guys, I know Kraid is next since I've already taken out the eye covering his boss door. Done some backtracking and I'm wondering...

Can I scale this area and get through that hole at the top without the Ice Beam?

Also, I skipped Plant Boss. Am I missing anything important by not killing him yet?

>> No.3461718


>> No.3461723

got damn it. Guess I need to git gud

>> No.3461724

You absolutely can. It's a major strategy in speedrunning.
Just a Super Missile tank. That's where you're intended to collect them for the first time.

>> No.3461729

Yeah, I knew about the tank but was wondering if it was anything else. I just learned mockball and the correct way to walljump so I'm exploring a bit

>> No.3461731

got damn it, I just realized that you don't need the Ice Beam to kill the turtle-bug things and can just super missile them to death. That makes things much easier

>> No.3461735

Super Missiles are the only things that CAN kill Rippers.

>> No.3461741

For some reason I thought they had to be frozen first

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>> No.3461775

can't you plasma them

also screw attack

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not so sure of that

>> No.3463487

Can any one offer tips on the cwj over the missile moat? I've already collected the missile at this point and while I do my best to jump late as possible off of a running start into the room, I can't seem to hold the jump button just the right amount to hit the other side of the pillar though.

>> No.3464008

You simply hold the jump button all the time until you have to do the wall jump. If you start running and jump both in the right spots, you should be able to do this.
Trying to time that shit is pretty frustrating though, good luck.

>> No.3464191

Are you sure? Because it seems to me a full jump from the latest point (which is what tutorials seem to recomend) will greatly overshoot it. I don't even have high jump or anything.

>> No.3464296

Start running from the other side of the door (Move yourself up against it, shoot it, then start running). Any further away and you'll be moving too fast.

>> No.3464320

oh hell I've been going at maximum possible velocity this whole time. I didn't think Samus really accelerated past a few frames of running.

>> No.3465746

it appears that some anon at doom general wants to update the metroid mod with more features

like zero suit mode(with weapons) and etc.

but there's no game that it fits with metroid common GF weaponry

>> No.3465843

Wew, early Phantoon's suprisingly hard. Spazer helps alot against him normally.

>> No.3465859


Did you finally manage to do the CWJ?

>> No.3466170

yeah thanks.

>> No.3466406

Man AM2R is pretty cool. Just got through the power plant area. That escape sequence was crazy, especially when you seemingly fuck up at the very end. Was there any missable stuff there, as there appears to be some passageway mid-elevator?

>> No.3466482

>as there appears to be some passageway mid-elevator?
You'll go through there later.

>> No.3466485

Don't worry about it. Keep playing the game and all will be revealed.
I do suggest you head back in though right now. A new path may have opened up.

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thanks dudesters.

Just finished it, what a cool game. I don't remember if I played all of Metroid II, but I feel like this is a very cool remake. Obviously a lot was new, but the main elements the original established were there. Felt a bit more linear than expected, but hey I like Fusion so that's A-OK with me.

Playing on Normal was a good choice. While early on was easy due to playing other metroids before, the lategame was hard like it should be. I like how Hard is an option even on the first run in case you're super good at Metroid. I'll go with that if I replay the game although considering how linear it was, one run is good enough for now.

88% items and 5 hour time. Not bad, but I have no clue what I could have even missed.

Might as well address my few issues with the game.

Why was there so much walking near the end? I get that you gotta build tension, but there were like 3 waterfall rooms that just kinda existed. Maybe something cool was hidden there, I dunno. This doesn't include the victory lap at the very end, that was cute and not too long.

Letting you leave the first Omega fight is a dick move, as you can't go back to Save/Heal until it dies. There's no real reason to leave that room besides getting the SM capsule to the right early, so I just kinda had to die as all its health came back and I wasn't the best at dodging it yet.

Not an issue, but I did like how the overworld music becomes more moody once you find the research team dead. Music overall was goood.

Overall, super fun fangame and I really should play Zero Mission. Glad you Metroid fans got something fun to play even if it ain't official.

>> No.3467049

>Why was there so much walking near the end? I get that you gotta build tension, but there were like 3 waterfall rooms that just kinda existed. Maybe something cool was hidden there, I dunno.

There's nothing there. It's just a weird thing the original game did that was copied over to AM2R:

>> No.3467072


thanks for the info

>> No.3467571

marathon 2 fits with that

most weapons looks like the ones from prime

>> No.3468018

Well, I don't think there are some good ways to do a skiprun in AM2R, unfortunately. :/ Still, the hardmode is much more challenging than in GBA metroids, so it kind of recompensates the thing.

>> No.3468081

I can't escape the power plant's explosion, no matter how hard I try. Is it intended?

>> No.3468084


It's scripted. I think it's impossible to lose.

>> No.3468294

Yeah, I noticed this while I was watching my boyfriend stream it. It seems like the temperature gauge speeds up and slows down depending on how far you are, and it's rigged so that it will always explode just as you're going through the blast doors.

>> No.3468313


It's bullshit and it's also not elastic enough. I realized quickly and it just killed the fun.

>> No.3468360


>it kills the fun

shoo /v/

>> No.3468471

>Fusion, ZM, and Prime aren't retro

What the hell are you smoking?

>> No.3469218


1.2 never.

Not that its needed, 1.1 fixed all the stuff.

>> No.3469229


>Source code never
Waste of a good engine.

>> No.3469323
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The only issue with conveyance in super metroid was that fucking glass tube super bomb shit, I could work out everything up until that point. Fuck that pissed me off bad.

>> No.3469335

decided to try fusion again for the billionth time, combination of losing saves and losing interest has caused me to stop and start a lot
i'm still hating this game. i can appreciate the things people love about it, but yhe lack of freedom so far has been horrible. adam is suffocating and keeps locking doors so backtracking is only possible when you're allowed. the hub leading to the sectors as opposed to a fluid world is maddening in the first place. playing metroid like metroid seems to be forbidden. most of the movement feels smooth and fun but walljumps are less versatile which kind of hurts. it's understandable that they wanted some control over what sort sequence breaks are possible.
am i being unfair or stupid? does some of it get better?
meanwhile, i'm loving playing zero mission again for the first time in a while. still hand holdy and easy as fuck but my nostalgia boner makes me more forgiving of it.

>> No.3469346


By the point in the game that you need to break the glass tube you've seen half of Maridia, including gigantic regions you can't yet reach. You've also seen the remains of a former glass tube and the presence of another room directly above the tube, locked behind a green gate.

If you can't have figured out that something at least needed to be done in there, how did you get this far in the game?

>> No.3469351

There's even a platform above the tube. Maybe putting an item in there (and thus a symbol on the map) would have helped more people get it, but adding that extra nudge feels kind of cheap. I've heard suggestions like adding a room with a yellow door and a breakable tube, but that's too heavy handed and turns tubes into just another door.

>> No.3469394

The best way to experience Fusion is to just take what items you can find on the intended path and save the backtracking for the end of the game

It's not like missiles and power bombs are any good in Fusion anyway

>> No.3469397


The best way to experience Fusion is to do a 1% run.

>> No.3469448

Do you ever even need to power bomb that tube? You can get into Meridia from the Ghost Ship.

>> No.3469454

The wrecked ship entrance just leads to the tube (green gate glitch aside).

>> No.3469457
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You're limited in where you can go. Unless you do the green gate glitch, you can't enter the majority of Maridia from there.

Here's a horrifically compressed map showing where you're limited to.

>> No.3469678



dear god, please make japanese Nintendo and Nintendo Yurop grow some pair and make sure that reggie kicks the bucket

>> No.3469681
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Next time I play Super Metroid I'm going to try to do Ridley before Draygon via bomb jumping. I Imagine getting the timing to skip that enemie's projectile is going to be hell.

>> No.3469689


You can bomb jump in lava?

>> No.3469695
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I'll try for Phantoon > Kraid > Ridley > Draygon

So yeah I can bomb jump thanks to suits.

I could just do that gravity boost thing but i prefer to avoid such obvious glitches that make no sense.
>Taking off Gravity suit to increase velocity in liquid.

>> No.3469702


I didn't think it worked.

I tried doing an RBO recently; right now I'm stuck in lower norfair trying to kill Ridley fast enough. It sucks but the point is that you don't need to gravity jump, a simple wall jump can take you into Ridley's Lair.

>> No.3469714

The walljump requires you to take off gravity too. You don't get enough height without the weird lava physics.

>> No.3469730

See i wasn't really interested in doing reverse. I tired to get in there via that wall jump before with the gravity suit and couldn't do it. I looked for examples but every speedrunner seemed to either go at it without gravity like you or do the glitch. So I felt like it just can't be done with gravity suit for some reason. I'll give wall jumping another shot next time before attempting bomb jumping.


>> No.3469739


This keeps the gravity suit on, but it's not exactly glitch-free either.

>> No.3469741

hmm, so its a short speed boost with damgae boosting right? I could accept that.

>> No.3469751

Basically, here's more about it:

I couldn't tell you how difficult it is. I'm terrible at short-charging and I only ever bother with it to shinespark into Draygon.

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I decided to give this a try. The timing on that short charge is pretty rough. But if you're doing Phantoon first then I suppose it's not going to be any worse than a CWJ.

This is like the coolest trick in the game though

>> No.3469939

shinespark is just the coolest thing ever really

>> No.3470895


RIP metroid franchise, FF bombed in japan and worldwide, also the shitload of lawsuits from yesterday til now coming from nintendo of MERICA, to ALL fan projects

>> No.3470905

So you're saying I have to get off my ass to dowmload all those rom hacks now?

>> No.3471489

>tfw pulling off the CWJ for the first time
also holy shit Phantoon is deadly

>> No.3471518

Stop shooting it with Super Missiles. It becomes a lot less deadly.

>> No.3471651

Is it possible to get to Draygon without the Ice Beam or Speed Booster?

>> No.3471827

The reserve mode/r-mode glitch can store a shinespark without speedbooster. I'm pretty sure there's a way to x-ray climb to Draygon too.

>> No.3471965


> reserve mode/r-mode glitch
I've never heard of this so I doubt it's practical without TAS

>> No.3472025

only those more recent...

fucking Nintendo

>> No.3472030

his super Missle counter is easilly dodged with charge jumps. So its actually pretty safe.

>> No.3472051

It's non-TAS, it's just an obscure glitch that doesn't really do anything useful for normal playthroughs. Why do you want to fight Draygon without ice beam or speedbooster anyway?

>> No.3472064


I wanted to know if I could beat him straight after Phantoon with the CWJ trick.

>> No.3472310

Are you referring to the 500+ fangames being taken down from some fangame site?

I don't think you should care about that, since out of 500 fangames, probably only 4 or 5 of them are decent, meaning nothing of value was lost.

>> No.3472648
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>mfw there's a Metroid general

>> No.3472671
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Fucking A, a Metroid general.

I'm a metroid fan blahblahblah, and I wanna become a game designer. Some months ago I decided to dedust an old project of mine, a remake of Metroid 1.
Sure it's already been remade once (twice if you count Super, thrice if you count Metroid Remix), but I intend this to be designed differently, and the main goal of this thing is to gain proper game dev experience so I could tackle the original games I want to make after that.

Game is being built in Construct 2 (saw room transition are doable so I settled here. So far only the most basic of movements is done, and right now I'm working on the spinjump) and is aimed to play like Fusion but with Super's aiming and weapon selection (it could be changed for GBA by the players + dedicated morph ball button).
I'm aware of what happened to AM2R, so I will post updates about it only here to avoid that. Though I could still work on it if I'm unable to share, it takes half the fun away to see others play your work.

>> No.3472723

Super isn't a remake.

>> No.3472727

Nice sprites. They're like this neat little mix of Metroid and Super Metroid. But then, I guess that's your intention.

>> No.3472728

Yeah, it's a total revamp but in terms of design it's basically Metroid 1 on steroids.

>> No.3472729

It is, same plot, same characters, same setting, same enemies

>> No.3472734

Are you on drugs?

>> No.3472740


I don't think so, Metroid is pretty different to Super as far as design goes.

>> No.3472741

Did the Linux port of AM2R ever get released?

>> No.3472742
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Thanks, and yeah that's the goal, to have Metroid 1's proportions so that the environment comes out big for the player, On top of Super's grungy aesthetics I also chose to use the SA-X pose because it's just the best pose as far as 2D games go.

Varia suit and Gravity suit are now palette swaps and don't give damage reduction. For that now there's the Barrier Suit (a voluntary use of the Varia suit's mistranslation) for 50% damage reduction and giving the typical huge pauldrons.

>> No.3472745

Only an unofficial build of v1.0
An official build is never coming now

>> No.3472759

No, how about you?

>> No.3472761

Well they could, but luckily we can appreciate no one will combind two horrible things like that.

>> No.3472765
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I was going to suggest using the original Varia colors for the Barrier Suit, but then I realized.. pink doesn't really seem to suit the modern Power Suit design.

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Then I guess you must have brain damage, then.

>> No.3472827

Nope, there are still some glitches. Nothing serious, probably (1.0 had nothing serious either). Also, Gravy Suit Stanky Leg

Someone should reverse engineer it and leak the source code then

>> No.3472832

Story goes: Metroid > [Prime series] (May or may not be alternate continuity) > Metroid 2 / AM2R > Super Metroid > Metroid Other M > Metroid Fusion

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>> No.3472854

that doesn't seem to account event order. Metroid 2 happens before 3 (Super), Super shows it in the intro.

>> No.3472885
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[spoilers]Yeah nah, Pink wouldn't work. I wanted to think of something that gives Samus' iconic poldrons without being tacked to an environmental powerup, like in Prime 2 and 3.
As far as areas go I took the original layout and added another (obvious) pair of areas, Crateria/Chozodia (but frozen so you'll need the Varia Core to travel outside of the temples) and its abandonned underground laboratory as its depths which can only be accessible by blowing up Ridley's ship

>> No.3472945

The timeline shows Metroid 2 above (before) Super Metroid. It just says they happened in the same year.

>> No.3472947

None will surpass Super Metroid honestly...best game ever

>> No.3472998

Everyone did. Heck, even Metroid 1 did if you got the mOTHER hack.

>> No.3473042

Hyper Metroid

>> No.3473812
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>tfw best beam will never get a proper 3D iteration

>> No.3473915


that beam isn't great though

>> No.3473967
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Fight me

>> No.3473980


What's so good about it?

>> No.3474002

I just love how it looks. Shame it became donuts in Fusion tho.

>> No.3474254

Metroid Dreadnought did it

>> No.3474441
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Took me this long to figure out Samus' pose in M1 wasn't a badly done sprite with a mutated arm

>> No.3474517
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Anyone mind if I start dumping random Metroid fanart?

>> No.3474525
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>not dumping metroid fanart
>in a metroid general

Come on now

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>> No.3474542


Go for it bro

>> No.3474545
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>> No.3474550

>finish AM2R

I don't know if it's worth to go back and search for theses last remaining secret items.

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By the way, are there any good hacks for Zero Mission or Fusion?

>> No.3474940


..someone had to say it.

>> No.3474949

Decent tools for the job only just started to show up. The only one worth looking for right now is Freedom for Fusion, which removes the event system and allows single wall-jump and infinite bomb jumping.


Also check his channel for more goodies.

>> No.3474950


>The only one worth looking for right now is Freedom for Fusion, which removes the event system and allows single wall-jump and infinite bomb jumping.

That sounds interesting. How complete is it?

>> No.3474951

to add to this, he's already released the walljump/bombjump change as a standalone patch if you want to screw around with it:

>> No.3474960
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Cozy like the womb.

Even if it was unintentional, I feel like the concept of the morph ball fits nicely with the themes of motherhood seen throughout the series.

>> No.3474973

don't start, just keep posting fan-art. you have one opportunity to not be a faggot, i suggest you keep at it.

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>> No.3474991

It's only like two. It's probably the super missile in the place with the thick growth and glow bugs. That was my last one. It's a shinespark puzzle before you get the boots and at the very end of a map branch.

>> No.3475007


why the UE4 Rage?

too many shiny shit?

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Alpha as fuck.

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Fuck off.

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I like this one. The many faces of Ridley...

>> No.3475821

two of those ain't even ridley tho

>> No.3475869

Curious thing: there are tilesets to be used for when she is facing the opposite direction. It is pure Nintendo laziness that made her look this weird.

>> No.3475889
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They're not complete.
They're missing idle and up aim poses.
But yeah, still strange.

>> No.3475897


>feather pubes

aw yeh

>> No.3475949

Aim Up would probably look too similar to make any significant change, and idle is just the upper half of the body anyways. And I said tiles, not sprites. So you can use legs from running but upper body from idle

>> No.3475965

I'm not dumb. I know how sprites work.
That said, the TILES are still missing for an idle torso.

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>> No.3477123

>other m shit
image ruined

>> No.3477498
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So remember that scrambled message you get in Bryyo Ice, and it turns out it was the AU trying to contact you?
Well, despite the filename still telling that, one guy actually cleaned up the audio file the best he could, and this came out:

>"Our sacred cave was once beautiful. As that cave gets more cold, the aggravated souls will get their rest."

Bryyo ghosts confirmed, like the Chozo back in Tallon IV.

>> No.3477536

you had one chance to not be a faggot and instead you bitched at someone contributing to discussion and posting fan art. next time keep the cocks in your mouth so the people who want to talk about metroid don't have to hear you moan

>> No.3477541


Deepest lore.

>> No.3477547

put your trip back on, sevenleaf

>> No.3477550
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>It's the ghost of the Prophetess

>> No.3477580

Go back to /v/

>> No.3477586

>axiel edition
I only just started playing redesign, should I start over with the axiel edition?

>> No.3477596

Yes. You'll see the improvements immediately.

>> No.3477598

alrighty, thanks

>> No.3477785


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...Did Samus kill that baby's parents?

>> No.3478298

No, the fire did.

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well shit

>> No.3478823

what's with all the doom lovers in this thread

>> No.3478826
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I'm just gonna paste my idea for a future Metroid game here because I like feedback.

>After the events of Fusion, samus begins to feel odd and uncomfortable
>While she is floating through space, her ships computer Adam gives some exposition
>Suddenly Samus' ship is hit from the back and she begins plummeting toward an unmarked and uncharted planet
>Samus wakes up to a totaled ship and Adam offline
>She exists the ship, and gameplay begins

I specifically think that this game should have the absolute greatest feeling of isolation. As such, none of the music should be as upbeat and mystifying as the Prime or maingames. Keep all the songs have a feeling of uneasiness. Also, this being an uncharted planet, I don't think there should be any signs of Chozo or even any traditional upgrades. The game should be genuinely unsettling or even terrifying.

Through the game it is realized (assumed by the player) that Samus is slowly beginning to mutate into a Metroid herself after she had ones DNA injected into her in Fusion. This should keep the gameplay fresh by giving Samus completely new abilities and powers. All the powerups would also need to be acquired through new means, since there are no Chozo artifacts. Despite it giving her new abilities, it should also be made apparent in her movement and mannerisms that she is in great pain. Maybe even have a part of the game slow her speed and jump down to limping, before she gets it back as a later powerup.

>> No.3478827

I like multiple franchises.

Also someone made a really kickass mod.

>> No.3478828
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There would be 2 major cutscenes in the game. One intro and one ending (the ending would have minor differences based on the clear time and percentage). Samus should talk in NEITHER of these and remain totally silent.

>the game ends with Samus on the brink of death. Mutating and having her body be completely destroyed my the Metroid DNA
>She sits herself up next to a rock and manages to remove her helmet despite it being fused to her body like the rest of her suit is (this only happens if you get the best ending)
>her face is all mangled and barely recognizable
>screen begins to fade to black as we cut to first person, samus' perspective
>Suddenly a bright light and the sounds of a ship landing near her
>Galactic Federation soldiers are seen approaching Samus
>The player gets hope that Samus is finally going to be saved and be okay
>"Samus Aran, you are under arrest for the destruction of the B.S.L Station and disclosing multiple government secrets. You have the right to remain silent.
>The last shot is Samus being dragged onto the ship. The camera pans and shows that the ship is a Galactic Federation medical ship
>cut to credits

What do you guys think? Would you like to see a Metroid game done similarly to this?

>> No.3478831

Sounds okay, but ideas are dime a dozen and generally sound okay.
You gonna make it?

>> No.3478834

>you gonna make it?

I wish I had this skill to do that. I would have already done it 10 times over

>> No.3478835

Oh. It's you.
Your idea sucks.
And literally everyone has told you so every time you've posted that shit.

>> No.3478837

Then it ain't worth anything, mate.

>> No.3478853

>you're not the metroids samus, you are the Metroids

>then samus was Mother brain

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>> No.3478892

holy shit
it's so smooth

>> No.3478917

and also so fucking slow

>> No.3478937

It's no slower than Super Metroid

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>> No.3479209


>> No.3479216

How do i get past the bubbles in the distribution center?

>> No.3479234


Ice Beam.

>> No.3479239


cancel that request i got it

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what's up with these fuckers that think putting primeshit key fetch quests into super metroid romhacks is a good idea?

>> No.3479374


It works better in Prime because you can at least scan things and figure out what room they're in.

>> No.3479534
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Haha time for Prime 1 TAS


>> No.3479717


Prime has some really fun high level sequence breaking to it. I'd say it's about as flexible as Zero Mission if you can git gud.

>tfw you accomplished a 4-tank VMR after about a week of trying but your memory card corrupted

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>> No.3480482
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that fusion suits looks so fucking good

>> No.3480527

did she just lay all those eggs

>> No.3480539

That's the implication, yes.

>> No.3480548

Someone somewhere must be saying "MOAR!!!"... But I'm more curious for the idea of samus suffering mutations from Metroid DNA.

>> No.3480913

Sounds like the most simple and safest way to do a metroid game. All you're really saying is "make a new game but this time she's part metroid", which is what Fusion was. But that game messed with the actual formula a little more, you can debate if a more linear metroid is a good thing, but at least it's shaking things up. You just want the concept of Fusion, and the actual game of Super.
>She exists the ship
Samus existing as her spaceship would make a far more interesting idea.

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because all doom lovers, and even the devs, are also metroid players

>> No.3481107

And yet to this very day NO ONE HAS MADE A TC OF METROID FOR DOOM

>> No.3481130

"but but, there's dreadnought, which is free to anyone who wants to update it, term said it"

>> No.3481208
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Rip, anon's hard drive.

>> No.3481226

which is absolutely true

>> No.3481257
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it needs someone only to do the back +back turning sprites and walk sprites for Super Metroid samus sprites and zero suit mode

>> No.3481316

imo dreadnought is pretty damn near complete as it is

only real thing it "needs" is a dedicated levelset for it and
>implying anyone makes levelsets for gameplay mods

>> No.3481595

Can they even do room transition like in the Prime games, where 1 room = 1 map?

>> No.3481630
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How do I get through here?

I cant maintain the speed

>> No.3481643


its possible to do this, but then who will do the maps?

a metroid TC map would need atleast a 40map megawad or something on the same scale as Knee deep in zdoom, Ancient Aliens or EPIC, each large map separated as a hub, thus there's the boss fights case, who would sprite kraid in all 4 angles unless someone decides to do a prime remake based on Valiant

but then, a Metroid Doom would be "free" from all DMCA bullshit

>> No.3481647

Did not expect to find this here. People, pay more attention to this man.

>> No.3481650

You don't need to boost through there, you can escape the same way you came in.
Drop bombs.

>> No.3481768
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What if Samus had an english accent?

>> No.3481775


There's a lot of different english accents bro.

You wouldn't want to imagine Samus as a scouser.

>> No.3481796

How about a subtle, yet noticeable one?

>> No.3481808

Samus is now voiced by Lara Croft.

>> No.3481817

With a tone more akin to Batman I'm 100% okay with this

>> No.3481841


i miss when she was voiced by Fem Shep, before her career kickstarted

>> No.3482227


No cockney Samus?

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>> No.3482537

>Glasgow samus

>> No.3482542

>I'll giv ridlay da what for I will I will!

>> No.3482550


Just fuck my samus up, m8s

>> No.3482553

>Fuck off ridley this is a kunt free zone m8

>> No.3482556

what if metroid was a girl?

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>> No.3482605

Then he could date Zelda.

>> No.3482606

But what if metroid was phone

>> No.3482615

40map? MAH BOY, have you played Hexen? Hexen uses Hub Map System. Probably would need AT MOST 20 maps.

Also, trivia: Two bosses in Metroid Prime Hunters are actually 2D sprites, because rendering them as 3D would take too much processing power

Also, another trivia: current GZDoom devbuilds and ZDoom stable build have Voxel support. And GZDoom accepts 3D Models, soooo....

>> No.3482876

not sure if AM2R is fine to discuss here, but i'm stuck at the Tower Boss. i know how to attack him, but i can't seem to find the correct timing. everytime to try to approach him, he performs one of his own attacks, making it very,very difficult to hit his open spot because you need to avoid getting hit yourself.

any tips? I'm playing on Hard btw.

i also don't have the ice beam yet, for some reason that i don't know. i just didn't find it anywhere yet.

>> No.3482882


Ice Beam is an endgame item.

>> No.3482887

really? i looked up some gameplay and people had ice beam that were not as far in the game as i am. thought i missed it somehow.

I've even seen some gameplay of the boss i'm talking about, with the player having the Ice Beam. Are you sure you know which boss i'm talking about? The round spinning one, right after you restored the energy in the tower.

>> No.3482892

Remakes are fine to discuss.
You've got two choices for the Tester. Either be aggressive as fuck, or wait for your chance to attack when it launches missiles.
Alternatively, you can skip the fight for the time being, take out the local Metroids and find an item that will make the fight easier.

You were likely watching demo footage. The Ice Beam is given earlier in the demos. Where the Charge Beam is located, in fact.
It was moved to later in the game for the final.

>> No.3482952

there's something extremely wrong about those animations, i can't really place it. are they doing the rotation thing?
then pixels+ particles, i puked in my mouth
then the textures, i continue to vomit
in spite of all those aesthetic things, it seems to play well. making development of fan games easier is a good thing

>> No.3483025

It might be the way your graphics card handles those. Different graphics card have different reactions. Also, Particles + Pixels + Textures + Rotations were in GBA and SNES.

>> No.3483132


as i said, does metroid community will group up and do that?

heck there's even The Island for Gzdoom which has a system perfect system for a Metroid map pack

>> No.3483170

I thought it was going to be impossible butbit didn't turn out to be that bad after I learned patterns and figured out how to hurt it.

The weapons are actually pretty weak, like two missiles will pop them, but they repair. The missile wave is good for repair resupply.

remember the enemy description
you have to switch to beam weapons after you've broken he shields. If you aim good maybe even after breaking just one or two segments. It doesn't have many hp after you break the shields.

>> No.3483174


Shine spark from the right

Destroy some of the spikey floor enemy on the first building roof, shine and crouch at the edge. Walk off about four times left of the edge. About one samus above standing height of one of the platform's will be in line with the cave entrance. You can spark from a standing animation from in midair. If you're spinning it's no good.

There's no point, it's just for a speed run or something. The puzzle to the left through the super missile wall is nothing and will be obvious. The game will train you on how to use the grey ball things.

>> No.3483268
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Post qt space piarets

>> No.3483549

>new log entry
Did anyone even took their time to read that stuff?

>> No.3483559

I only did when I was stuck on a boss. Specifically the tester then I realized spamming super bombs wrecks him

>> No.3483774

Who said a GROUP is needed? See Doomero.

>> No.3483941

Absolutely. I loved the mechanic.

>> No.3484308

cuddly zebesian please leave

>> No.3484310

doomero's stuff is really bad, though
looks impressive but plays like hot arse jelly

>> No.3484359

when i played, it was a rental, so I came across a save where this was already broken, though i didn't know how, so I went about finding out on my own and eventually did it with the power bomb

>> No.3484379

If you wanna talk scale, you should look at ZDCMP2. That's an example of just how much you can cram into a single map, not to mention how hard you can push the engine.

But honestly, what "Metrood" really needs is an enemy replacer.

A moment of silence for Closetmapguy's HDD.

>> No.3484384

>first time ever playing Super Metroid tonight

This is both the best and the worst feel.

>> No.3484854

Then do better than him. Quad dare you!

>> No.3484890

instead of particles i guess i should have said the gross mismatch of resolution of the effects and the sprites
same applies to the environment, which i called textures which is probably wrong too lol
i think i can explain the animation thing better now- it gives the impression that they just cut up samus into bits then made the bits move and rotate rather than actually animating the sprite
wtf are you on about with the graphics card? i'm just looking at the webm, gfx card has fuck all to do with that

>> No.3485058

Remember the Gravity Suit glitch with AMD Radeon in version 1.0? That's an example. Another is how in the past some games would not react well with different sound cards and graphics card, having a loud buzzer at random times, or showing textured out of scale, etc.

>> No.3485415

no i don't remember shit about previous versions i've never downloaded this
as i said before i'm only making observations based on the webm i originally replied to, which as i also said before, has fuck all to do with graphics cards.

>> No.3485416

fuck, video not webm that's my bad

>> No.3485878
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So, maybe the reason why Samus constantly loses her equipment between mission is that it could be because she has to update her suit so that the more technology can be carried on her ever since the Unknown Items in Zero Mission, and she doesn't want that to happen ever again.
Though by doing so, some items go into the trash since the new suit cannot support them, like trying to play W98 games on W10.
Though that doesn't explain Super Metroid where she was all naked item-wise, since there's a 30 minutes split between M2 and SM, unless she could update her suit in the meantime.

>> No.3485898

She's a bounty hunter. She sells that shit to space pawn shop.

>> No.3485919


Dreadnought has already space pirates. but then, other creatures would be a pain to sprite in all directions, who would like to sprite kraid, crocomire or even the metroid queen

>> No.3485971

>>3485919 What if I told you... GZDoom and Zandronum (in OpenGL mode) supports 3D Models and both ZDoom and GZDoom (at least dev builds) supports VOXELS.

So, why not use those?

>> No.3485976

> Base quality on someone else's video considering GC can affect a game's quality

>> No.3485980

You've seen a lot of voxel monsters around?

>> No.3485982

The feds confiscate all her shit every single time because she's too heavily armed, and all weapons technology is strictly regulated. She literally becomes so powerful that it's illegal.

If there was a sequel to Fusion there's possibly no reason she wouldn't start with her power-ups in tact. I feel like it would make an interesting game actually, if she somehow had to acquire new abilities on top of those, but no one seems to be able to decide what those powers should be.

>> No.3486038

The canon reason for losing her equipment all the time is don't think about it.

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>other creatures would be a pain to sprite in all directions
You can either use 3D models converted to MD2 format, or you can render animation frames with them in Blender/3DS/SFM etc. It would be relatively easy to make sprites for monsters this way, considering we have about 3 to 5 3D Metroid titles to pull from, depending on your preferences.

>> No.3486068

It could be that the relics she's using are ancient and burn out after a few hours' use.

>> No.3486140
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If Metroid were a movie, who would you cast in the lead role?

I think Jessamyn Duke would make a pretty good Samus.

>> No.3486150

Maybe she just doesn't think she'll need to bring a plasma beam, screw attack, and hundreds of missiles to retrieve a baby metroid from some asshole lizard she's already killed twenty times.

>> No.3486226

Not many are interested in using 3D models or Voxels as monsters for (G)ZDoom for... I dunno, no reason maybe.

>> No.3487297

Yeah, nah. She was already video game famous from KOTOR before that though.

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>you can use release version saves in demo

>> No.3488582

Keep us informed, bby

>> No.3488584

>zero negative twelve metroids remain
this is a level beyond genocide

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guess what I did

>> No.3488620
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Basically, you start with all your tanks in whichever area you saved. All your power are gone and most bosses, metroids, and collectibles are still there. There's no lava stopping you.

>> No.3488623

Oh. Well that's kinda boring.

>> No.3488629


>> No.3488736

There we go. Collected whatever was wasn't nailed to void and killed whatever was able to kill.

>> No.3488738
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And forgot the screenshot.
Now I can brag about 246% completion

>> No.3489636

Ow the edge.

>> No.3489917

Can you transfer these back to the release game?

>> No.3489923

No, it says your save is corrupted and deletes that shit.

>> No.3489969


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