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Hey everyone, I've just been getting into the Umihara Kawase series and I wanted to have a general discussion thread. Does anyone have any tips for how to get good at the games? The grapple mechanics are really cool but also really tough.

>> No.3389017

bump for a god tier platformer

>> No.3389143

PRACTICE
That's really it. Just play and you'll get the hang of it. It happened very naturally for me. If you have a specific question ask, but UK is a game that you won't pick up immediately.

>> No.3389198

>>3389143
I've been playing on emulator with a keyboard and I think that's complicating things. I have the hardware to play original copies so I might just bite the bullet and buy them.

>> No.3389202

>>3389198
>emulator with a keyboard

You're fucking sick

>> No.3389214

>>3389202
It's probably making the grappling way harder than it actually is

>> No.3390548

Guess this series isn't super popular?

>> No.3390575

>>3390548
The current meme game is popful mail.

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>>3390548
There was a bit of discussion about it in the Vita general on /vg/ when it came out there. You could ask in their and pretend you're talking about the Vita version (it's just a remake, mostly, right?)

>> No.3390943

>>3390761
what would a video game protagonist be without heaving titties to lug around. nice.

>> No.3390949

>>3390575
Popful Mail has been the /vr/ meme game for as long as I can remember

>> No.3391142
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>>3390949
so has umi

>> No.3391151
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I like the old art style that was hand drawn.

>> No.3391169

I got too fed up and uninstalled it from my Steam library. It's way too frustrating, the difficulty curve goes from manageable to "fuck you you little bitch, you think you're good? fuck you FUCK YOU" in a single stage.

>> No.3391178
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>>3391169
git good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavU54ELpD8

>> No.3391184

>>3391178

>TAS

Not even going to bother watching. I know that it's possible to beat the game really fast and what I did force myself through was really fun, but at some point I just couldn't push through.

>> No.3391242

>>3391184
not man enough huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RlOgaszbHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOlbnQJsldg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I2v2b5RNRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAhL27B6RTQ

>> No.3391304

>>3391178
>>3391242
How do I get this good at the grapple mechanics? How do I learn?

>> No.3391334

>>3391304
watch vids of levels and practice. it will start to get more natural. Although each game feels like the physics are slightly different.

>> No.3392912
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>>3391304
Practice, practice, practice. Learn the techniques, quickest way to beat some field, and just understand the grapple mechanics. Kintyorru has some videos on mechanic but they're a little hard to find since it's all in japanese.
It took me 6 months before I got a decent time running UK(8 minutes for shortest path), so take your time and have fun.

>> No.3393103

>>3392912
Thanks anon! I've got a sfc cart coming in the mail

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>> No.3395453

>>3394631
This, this is good

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>>3391142
They're sisters in popfulhood.

>> No.3396401

>>3395515
fair

>> No.3397207
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3397207

>TFW you finally beat the crab in UK
Probably my most hated boss and field in the whole game

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>>3396401
>>3395515
Pic related.

>> No.3398332
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3398332

What are the chances of getting a slightly more polished sequel to this series?

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>>3397207
>tfw only beat him once
>in practice mode

>> No.3398381

>>3390761
Well, that explains why the grappling is very difficult

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>>3398332
I'm pretty sure the studio that made UK is dead so none.

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>>3398414
I don't want it to be おわり just yet.

>> No.3399109

>>3398381
Explain?

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>>3399109
She may be weighed down a bit by something.

>> No.3399235

>>3398414
I thought it was just the publisher that went under.
Studio Saizensen still seems to be kicking I think
http://www.saizensen.co.jp/

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>>3399168
You think so?
In a way, the added mass makes the swinging less floaty.

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https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CD90919322C51ED!9376&authkey=!AAEsN4VHGiuc5_U&ithint=file%2czip

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>> No.3402315

>>3398375
I can beat the crab pretty consistently, and I can post a replay if you think it will help you.

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>>3399235
I'm glad they're still alive. I hope the next Umihara is harder than Sayonara, or just has different rope physics.

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>>3403964
>the next Umihara

>> No.3404424

Anyone who played the old games and prefers Sayonara to them? Just curious

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>>3404394
It's unlikely but only if

>> No.3404838

posd tiddies psl

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>>3404838
Beat the game to prove that you are worth it.

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>>3404893
All fields completed in DS Shun

>> No.3405967

>>3404424
I do. Mostly because of the easier physics, especially the effortless wall scaling. If only it allowed you to fling yourself like the original and Shun do, it would be perfect.

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>>3405843
Nice work, anon.

>> No.3406023

Do you guys know that old /co/ comic where the /co/fags would find a waifu and would all hover around her, but then some new waifu appears and everyone would just flock to the new one and left the other old behind and alone. And then find a newer one, etc ad infinitum

Well I feel like Umi was /vr/'s first and now everyone is forgetting her and going towards Mail from Popful Mail. I wonder who's going to be the third one, maybe Eriko from Yu-No.

If I could find that comic I would probably re-draw it into a /vr/ themed one.

>> No.3406030

>>3406023
don't forget Tron Bonne too

>> No.3406751

>>3406030
Ah yes Tron Bonne, but to be fair I think everyone loves Tron Bonne and it's hardly a /vr/ almost exclusive thing.

Maybe that furshit from Breath of Fire as well, even though that's too far down the furry line for me.

>> No.3407026

>>3406751
>Maybe that furshit from Breath of Fire
You're going to have to be more specific.

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>>3407026
Oh you know, the obvious one

>> No.3407060

>>3407037
fuck off kattposter

>> No.3407062

>>3407060
I think you're confusing me with someone else, maybe read the context

>> No.3408108

Just picked up Shun and fuck it's amazing

>> No.3408176

>>3408108
Dude, you just made realize I have a DS lite laying around with a shitty flashcard that I never bothered to try the DS game on.

I luckily found the necessary files online, going to give the game a try, see if it works.
I only played Sayonara on 3DS and tried the original but didn't have a gamepad for my computer before.

>> No.3408187

>>3391178
I don't think it's fair to consider a TAS skill.

>>3391304
TAS tends to be beyond human ability.

>> No.3408401

>>3408176
I managed to install everything without problems, thank god.
Rom seems to work just fine too, I'm so glad but I feel a bit dumb too, why did I not try this any sooner?

But anyway, I'm glad I can experience the other games too, you really notice the difference in rope physics which is going to take some time to get used to.
Though I really like the physics in the first game a lot, seems a bit easier to do complex jumps compared to Sayonara.

Shun also looks kinda nice, visually, not amazing but it just looks appealing to me.

>> No.3408412

>bought steam pack
>only sayonara allows analog stick use
>i only have a 360 pad and the dpad on it is the worst thing in the fucking universe
>cheap keyboard has n-key rollover issues that make using it impossible

fuck

>> No.3408439

>>3408412
buy a usb saturn pad or a usb converter.

>> No.3410147

>>3388867
>The grapple mechanics are really cool but also really tough.

They probably wouldn't be very cool if they were made easier, as it would dumb down the gameplay.
Anyway, I have been playing the original a bit more lately, it is tough but it doesn't even take very long to get the grapple mechanic down to a point where you can easily swing across a the bottom of platforms

It's so rewarding when you try a complicated swing and it works exactly how you want it.

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>> No.3411851

>>3406023
Mail had a few threads on /g/ before /vr/ existed and has been a simmering background waifu around here since then. We'll probably never get as bad as /co/ at the very least because there are only so many top-tier retro waifus.

>> No.3412091

You guys seem informed on these games, I was wondering about the DS game what the difference is between the two version of Shun that come packed with it.
I haven't played a whole lot yet but the version appear the same from a quick look.

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>>3412091
I think one has a tutorial.

>> No.3412128

>>3412091
The DS has a smaller native resolution, but pretty much plays the same.

>> No.3412546

>>3412121
>>3412128
Okay I paid a bit more attention, there's indeed a slight difference.
Also noticed that the title screen has a different drawing of Umihara in each version.

>> No.3412564

https://steamdb.info/app/384690/graphs/
https://steamdb.info/app/384700/graphs/
https://steamdb.info/app/378750/graphs/

Oh man so the games didn't sell very well on Steam, what a damn shame.
Even if there's a fourth game down the line, with these numbers I doubt they'll ever bother porting it again.

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>>3412564
obligatory

>> No.3412606

>>3412564
How expensive do you think porting these games are?
That's practically $10,000+ revenue per game minimum.
There's a reason Degica bought it when the publisher went bankrupt.

Also, compare your pic to the actual steamdb graph. They all went up, a lot. Your image sounds like it was made before a winter sale, where PC Gamers actually buy games

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>>3412564
I was reading this interview from the creator.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/indie-before-it-was-cool-the-umihara-kawase-story
Then I come across this part:
>Despite the intricacy of Umihara Kawase's design, Sakai feels his work went largely unnoticed. "A group of core fans and people who were interested in programming really praised the game," he recollects with evident disappointment. "But I feel like, in general, there weren’t that many people out there who noticed the physics."

I feel a bit disappointed and seeing the steam sales just confirms that these games are not popular at all.
I doubt it will ever change, I doubt skill-based games like these will ever become popular.
Not that I want Umihara Kawase to be the next big hit, just a bit more love would be nice, a bit more attention from other parts of the gaming community and maybe a little more certainty about the game's future.
From a technical standpoint, surely there are enough possibilities for a continuation.

>> No.3412660

>>3412628
Yeah I don't honestly expect this series to become the next big thing anytime soon, but after 20 years I would expect to gather a little bit of a niche market. Right now it's beyond niche or cult following, no matter how you look at it, these are very small numbers.

I was honestly expecting for steam players to embrace it way more than this, specially when it got some buzz in the news when they pulled the games from steam and then degica reinstated them.

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>>3412628
>I doubt skill-based games like these will ever become popular.

Nothing new here. Look at the money and entrants in fighting games. The numbers pale in comparison to League. It's always been this way and that will never change. Games that require time to get the full potential out of just can't be as popular as easier, just as fun, games.

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>>3413387
Makes me real glad that the series counts three games at all.

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>got all three Umihara games running on my vita
Feels good to have the whole trilogy on such a nice system. And portable, no less.

>> No.3414817

>>3412091
The DS version has the DS exclusive fields while the SE version is identical to the SE (Second Edition) version from 1997.
There are also some differences in some of the first fields to make it more beginner friendly in DS v. That'd be about it.

>> No.3415018

>>3414807
Through emulation?
Or is it possible to play all the games legitimately on the Vita?

>> No.3415479

>>3414807
I didn't immediately notice but that pic is extremely lewd.

>> No.3415569

Well you would need jap account since they haven't released Shun anywhere else afaik.

>> No.3415602

>>3415569
The fuck are you talking about

>> No.3415812
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>>3415018
Legitimately.

>>3415569
He's talking about getting the Umihara games on vita. You need a Japanese PSN account to get PS1 Umihara Kawase Shun, but you can either import the physical copy of the Sayonara/SNES pack from Japan, or buy digital in most other regions.

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3416915

Do you guys want to get together and make some sort of a nice present/thank you to Studio Saizensen/Toshinobu Kondo? I doubt they've ever received contact from western fans before.

>> No.3416958

>>3416915
I wouldn't mind.
Kiyoshi Sakai in particular stated that he felt his work went largely unnoticed.

Though how do you envision this?

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>>3416915
Any ideas on how you would do this?

>> No.3419209

>>3416958
>>3418765
To be honest, I didn't really think that part through.

Any ideas?

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>>3419209
Total longshot, but what about fanart of Den-Sen? It was also a Kiyoshi Sakai game, but it got cancelled before it had a chance to come out. Really interesting concept, too -- girl who slides across powerlines in Tokyo with a coat hanger.

As an added benefit, if he's moved enough by it, maybe he'll even release the game for vita or something.

Some footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCGiUnbjQg

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>>3420551
I gave it a shot. I am very fond of the Densen beta. I know its ps2 but it was shown very early around 1999. Its pretty hard to even see what the characters look like in the low quality video we have.

>> No.3422182

>>3422104
Sheit I never realized it was a coat hanger

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>>3422104
Looks good, that's kinda how I envsioned her too.

The game looks fun but I don't really understand how the gameplay would work, at least how it would keep fun for longer times because from the trailer alone it does look like it gets a bit stale after a while and you seem quite limited in your movements.

But I'm definitely interested in it.

>> No.3422406

>>3422182
Its hard to see much in the footage.
>>3422279
The art style and environment in Densen are a perfect match with Umihara's surreal urban japanese setting. I agree about the gameplay which looks very hard to develop a game around. I see that the girl has some freedom of movement but she needs to stay on-rails to line up with the electric wires. Like Umihara it would have been focused on the unique controls which look very fun like a kawaii rollercoaster ride. I would love to play it someday or at least see better video.

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>>3422406
I'm still really curious about the game, but that's partly due to it being so mysterious.
Though I really like this kind of setting and the surreal environments, as in Umihara.

Would love to hear more of the concept from Sakai himself but what are the odds this ever happening?

>> No.3423169

>>3423164
Significantly higher if we send him a card or something themed around it.

Studio Saizensen (Kondo + Sakai's company) has their address publicly on the internet, so it shouldn't be too hard. I also know Japanese (and have many native speaker friends) so I can translate a message if needed.

That would be a super good image for the front of the card, by the way.

I'm thinking nothing too big or extravagant, just something nice and full of love.

>> No.3423172

Possible ways to contribute:
>Write something nice about your experience with UK, or just something nice in general
>Draw a cute little sketch about Den-Sen/Umihara
>If you have any questions you wanted to ask to the creators, post them generally here.

I was thinking it'd be a small, few-page post-card that you can open up, has some nice pictures and messages, and then a short piece of writing at the end that summarizes our questions or general words of thanks. Of course, let's try not to ask more than a couple of questions. Let's not make things hard on them.

I think a theme that they'd appreciate is fans from outside of Japan.

>> No.3423202

>>3423172
>Let's not make things hard on them.
This, let's focus more on thanking them and not dump a list of questions on them, we don't want to come across as a bumch of uppity internet nerds who demand answers.

Also, to those of you around who might be thinking "oh but I can't draw at all" but wish to contribute, try it.
This is not about making a beautiful piece of artwork, it's about showing appreciation, a little sketch or doodle, even if it looks a bit clumsy, can get the message across.
So don't worry about your capabilities and write something nice if you want.

>> No.3423209

>>3423202
Honestly I think the only question should be "Do you have any more information about Den-Sen?" because there's absolutely nothing on the internet about it, and anything more specific would be a bit pushy.

>> No.3423260

>>3423209
>>3423164
It would also be nice to see some footage of the x68000 umihara prototype.
>>3423172
>>3423202
i agree some small doodles is a great idea. Kind of like the cards /v/ sent to gaben and nintendo.

>> No.3423468

How about mixing some /int/ into it and draw your country's version of Umihara? Cute girl, fishing pole, walking food, maybe some pieces of your local countryside and nostalgia to past decades, you know. You can even localize the title to something that sounds incredible stupid in your native language. I think it would be a nice and fun way to show love from over the world.

>> No.3423515

>>3423468
That might be a fun idea.
I'm from the Netherlands myself but I suck at drawing.
I'll try to cook something up though, I have some ideas.

Anyway, do we need to set some kind of deadline?
Or wait for a few more people to show their support.

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This game reinvigorated my desire to make games.
Fortunately I'm finally getting serious about programming.

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>>3416915
We could do what /v/ usually does and make a thank you card with a panel from everybody here.

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>>3430157
these are the cringiest things to come out of /v/, and that's really saying a lot

>> No.3430172

>>3430158
I don't know about that anon. I don't think that genuine appreciation for videogames is really that cringe worthy compared to most of the posts on v.

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>>3402008
Oh I've heard of this level editor before, it's the one made by some Austrailian kid that goes by the name of Naixoram right? I've been messing around on it myself and it's taking a while to get used to working with it. Hopefully he's working hard on a new version already with more options and things to create more extreme level designs in.

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>>3397207

>> No.3430458

>>3430158
There's nothing cringe worthy about it. You're probably just too jaded

>> No.3432718

>>3430158
What exactly is wrong with something like this?

>> No.3433115

>>3430158
Who cares, it's something nice to send to people in the industry

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>>3391178
>that first boss

>> No.3433842

>>3412564
Outside the first they are awful ports though so people like me cannot really recommend them. The Sayonara port is rendered BELOW the 3DS resolution and also to many people, this is their first time playing the first game and are still trying to beat that too.

>> No.3433850

>>3412660
Why did you expect US to latch onto it? They had literally never heard of the series up until the Steam port, this is the first time it was localized and they were all localized around the same time

>> No.3433903

>>3433850
Who ever mentioned the US?

>> No.3433914
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>>3388867
As several people have already said. Lots of practice. With enough time, this webm could be you!

>> No.3433918

>>3433914
Pretty sure that's from a TAS

>> No.3433940

>>3433903
Fine, "the west", you happy smartass? You knew what I meant. It never left Japan until the Vita and Steam ports.

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>>3433850
>Why did you expect US to latch onto it? They had literally never heard of the series up until the Steam port,
Speak for yourself.
Anyone with an emulator could have potentially known about this game, even more so for those who had the entire ROM set.

>> No.3434045

>>3434028
You are stupid, how are you going to be confused as to why its not popular and say some shit like that? In the emulation scene most people play games they played during their youth and games in that series they missed. Everyone else buys the physical media which without hardmodding the Super Nintendo is region locked. They don't explore Japan exclusive games. It doesn't help that the newest game in the series is the ugliest and the worst port of any game I have ever played. The only relevance it has right now is VR support which is a novelty. Also downloading ROMsets is lazy hoarder faggotry.

>> No.3434069
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>>3434045
>You are stupid
noted
>In the emulation scene most people play games they played during their youth and games in that series they missed.
Or they play games recommended by other users, with emulation being the cheapest way to do this.
>Everyone else buys the physical media which without hardmodding the Super Nintendo is region locked.
Unless you live in a PAL region, it's literally just breaking a bit of plastic.
>It doesn't help that the newest game in the series is the ugliest and the worst port of any game I have ever played.
I'd say Shun is, but I'm just biased against 2D objects in 3D environments
>Also downloading ROMsets is lazy hoarder faggotry.
What are you? My therapist?

>> No.3434104

why are her boobs so big? its distracting

>> No.3434106

>>3434069
The recommendations other users make are based on what they have played. You are overestimating the population, most people think being able to build your own computer makes you a rocket scientist, they aren't going to do a hardmod. And I only mentioned that it is for lazy hoarders because most people who download those packs are lazy hoarders. Read; they don't play anything outside Super Mario World and Zelda. Of the thousands of games, what are the odds they pick a game called 海腹川背?

>> No.3434115

>>3434106
>And I only mentioned that it is for lazy hoarders because most people who download those packs are lazy hoarders. Read; they don't play anything outside Super Mario World and Zelda.

Bullshit
people who want to play mario and zelda don't download entire romsets. they download mario and zelda.

people who download romsets do try new stuff from time to time. most of it? doubtful. all of it? nah. but the chances of someone playing something new to then instead of "mario and zelda" is way bigger than whatever you think it is

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>>3434115
The fact Umihara Kawase is still obscure is fact enough you are wrong. It is the strongest title on the Super Famicom and wouldn't be obscure if people tried new things.

>> No.3434138
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>>3423468
Nar Muhit, from Lebanon.

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>>3434106
>The recommendations other users make are based on what they have played.
That's the glory of the internet. People from all over the world (including eastern countries) can recommend games that the rest of the world might not know about.
>Of the thousands of games, what are the odds they pick a game called 海腹川背?
All ROMsets tend have Japanese naes written in romaji, but you'd be surprised. Some of us tend to load a ROM at random if we're bored enough.

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>>3423468

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>>3434147
So this...>>3412564 is the.. power... of the internet....
I think you both forget the topic of the conversation
>I was honestly expecting for steam players to embrace it way more than this

Obviously people talk about it, I have made several threads on /v/ over the past month alone. That doesn't ensure popularity, I am giving reasons why I believe it isn't popular today.

>> No.3434742

>>3434138
Why is her hook a squid?

>> No.3434774

>>3434138
Would play. We don't have many arab brown cuties in games.

>> No.3434791

>>3434045
I remember reading /v/'s recommendation wiki back then in like 2008 or 2009, and Umihara Kawase mentioned with link to dedicated western Umihara imageboard, that's how I found out about series
(RIP imageboard)

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>>3434791
I was told by others back before then in the early 2000s that Umihara Kawase was a good game. So I bought them, and to this day I still have not even bothered to play them. I even got the ones in the Humble Bundle and logged 0 seconds on those too. I wish I had the time to play, but tonight is dedicated to cleaning the home and laundry (and maybe some Actraiser for the umpteenth time).

Yes I had always thought the image character was a boy until now, but now that I know, changes nothing.

>> No.3434947

>>3434927
You should dedicate at least one day this week and experience Umihara magic. If you are in mood for platformers of course.

>> No.3434998

https://suzuri.jp/drawline/383137/t-shirt/s/yellow

>> No.3435043

>>3434927
how could you think Umi is a boy with those huge knockers?

>> No.3435050

>>3435043
How dare you prejudice my manboobs

>> No.3435056

>>3434947
That is a very reasonable request, I hope I do get in the mood to play it. I'm always distracted but I will try. I was just reinforcing the notion earlier as to why the games may not have been so popular, as even I have the ROMs, have the new PC editions, even have the actual games, and was still too lazy to even give them a try.

>>3435043
I thought each game had a different protagonist. With the Sayonara release, I thought they changed to a female character to cash in on "anime waifu" market. I never really looked that close at the PS cover. Also, I'm posting on 4-chan so I assumed it was the usual horridness of "same but female" art, like how rule 34 makes female characters have penises. I ... am a well adjusted person, like the rest of 4chan. Believe it or not, it was the constant art on these Umihara Kawase threads and I started thinking "damn, there are a lot of pictures of the main character with big breastuses ... oh my gawd, I think the main character IS a girl" and then I took the PS game out (to make that picture) and I did see.

>> No.3435062

>>3412582
>>3412564
It always sold like shit.
This serie is obscure as fuck.

>> No.3435112

>>3435056
embrace the waifu anon

>> No.3435431
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>>3434742
It's a hamsa.

>>3434774
Thanks! By the way, Nahr Muhit means "River Ocean."

>> No.3435856

>>3433940
>It never left Japan until the Vita and Steam ports.
Wrong, smartass.

>> No.3435858

>>3434998
I kind of want this but there's no way Japanese people would understand it

>> No.3435862

>>3435856
When did it have an official release outside of Japan earlier then?

>> No.3435865

>>3435862
In 2014 on 3DS eshop.

>> No.3435878

>>3435865
Oh, sorry. For some reason I just assumed he typed 'vita and 3ds' not vita and steam.

strange.

>> No.3436579

>>3388867
>First time on /vr/
>There is a Umihara Kawase thread

...S-so, i'm n-not the only one?, steam forums are beyond dead

>> No.3436612
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Can somebody please post a map field of Shun?
i've been playing the Steam version for a while and i can't find the remaining doors

>> No.3436745
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3436745

>>3436612

Here you are, my man. I've also got an achievement list if you're hunting for those as well.

>> No.3437429

>>3435865
why would you come on /vr/ and think im talking about the new shit title? the first time umihara kawase released in the west were steam and vita. it is not included on 3ds i dont think. same for shun.

>> No.3437441

>>3436579
>s-s-sss-sst-t-tt-tud-d-dd-rr-riig-ngi in text
end your fucking life

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>>3437441
>being mean in an umihara kawase thread

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>>3436745
Hey thank you so much! now i can finally get those achievements

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>>3437441
I hope you have a nice day anon, it seems like you need one

>> No.3438094

>>3437429
Because you were talking about the series, you fucking retard?
>>3433850
>They had literally never heard of the series up until the Steam port

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3440664

bump

>> No.3440685

>>3434135
No it probably hasn't had an e-celeb video yet.

>> No.3441725

>>3438094
>I was honestly expecting for steam players to embrace it way more than this
>steam
end yourself

>> No.3441740

>>3440685

CGR did review it not too long ago actually.

>> No.3441863

>>3441725
So, what are you trying to imply, retard? Somehow 'the series' means only subset of the series when someone mentions steam? You need to try better than this, lol.

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>tfw imported さよなら海腹川背ちらり for my Vita
>I ended up playing the original game that's included with it more than the main game

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>>3441863
I was defeated awhile ago

>> No.3442237

>>3441880
Yumi's Odd Oddysee has problems. It has different physics, more forgiving design (removal of lives), weird quicktime button which trivializes reflexes, and way too much fucking ice everywhere making it feel more railroaded. I think the first game is a better game

>> No.3442301

>>3442237
>Yumi's Odd Oddysee
Why did they change localised name for 3DS but didn't for Vita.

>> No.3442305

>>3440685
It had Game Center CX video and that's famous.

>> No.3442318

>>3442237
>It has different physics
Not a problem
>more forgiving design (removal of lives)
That only spoils the joy of reaching new fields, the game mode with lives is still there and you need to complete it to mark endings as cleared.
>weird quicktime button which trivializes reflexes
Optional
> too much fucking ice
Didn't like this and lots of trampolines as well.

>>3442301
Odd Odyssey was probably a Natsume's idea. Vita game had different publisher.

>> No.3442336

>>3442318
no way there is a lives option?

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>>3442336
Have you reached any ending? It unlocks the survival challenge that plays like previous games, with limited amount of backpacks.

>> No.3442403

>>3442394
no i hadn't, i dropped it pretty soon after trying it in favor of beating the other two first

>> No.3444032

>>3442394
The survival challenge is pretty easy compared to the first two games and extra backpacks are incredibly abundant as well.

>> No.3444048

>>3444032
>vita version
>level 33
Also you only start with 3 lives, so even though there's a ton of backpacks, you have to go through some serious trouble to get a number of them. Considering this, it balances out with the other two games where you start out with 10 lives.

>> No.3444060

Here's a romhack of the original, which includes:
>all levels linked together into one route
>30 minute rule removed
>start with 50 backpacks
>unused enemies added to some levels

https://mega.nz/#!jJ0iiSJT!xtlKJMFZuhcWQZPv4XzjZV06aGnFfZgS5C2ZlxY0Va0

>> No.3445646

>>3444060
need to check that out thanks.

>> No.3446481

>>3388867
Wow I just played this game for the first time. It was a bit slow paced for me, but I think it's perfect for my little sister.

>> No.3446563

>>3446481
>Umihara Kawase
>slow-paced
How bad do you have to be at the game?

>> No.3446682

>>3446481
>giving the quake of platformers to the unworthy

>> No.3446724

>>3446481
is she cute?

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>> No.3447897

>>3447821
She got too much longer leg. lol

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>>3447897
LOOOOOOOOOOONGUMI

>> No.3448421

>>3447897
Go back to bed Kojima

>> No.3448436

>>3446682
I'm someone's little sister, just so you know. Sexism isn't cool.

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>>3448436
Who cares about sexism in a video game thread?

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>> No.3452751

>>3446860
What field is that? I've never been there (just been trying some of the shorter paths recently, and I suck so I can't finish it anyway).

>> No.3452757

>>3452373
lewd

>> No.3452759

>>3446724
agree, post her feet

>> No.3452810
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>>3452751
Looks to be Field 46.
A lovely field with clams spawning at inopportune times.

>> No.3452837

>>3434028
I almost never hear about game emulation. for one, games journalists are all but forbidden to mention it. the biggest venue for spreading word about obscure games, Youtube, is completely supine when it comes to takedown requests by rights holders. And Nintendo is fast and sloppy with the ban hammer.

Thirdly, the number of people who have a computer is probably dropping, as most of the functionality is covered by owning a game system and a smart phone. Emulation works on neither of these, unless you know about jailbreaking. Most people don't. Again, legal grey area squashed by industry gatekeepers acting like jealous husbands.

>> No.3453472

>>3452810
I always just climb up the left wall on this level. It's too much trouble going all the way right then swinging across the falling platforms.

>> No.3453709

>>3452837
There's some emulators on the google play store, you don't need to jailbreak unless you have an iShit.

>> No.3453765

>>3444060
The unused enemies are these guys if anyone's interested:
Umihara Kawase unused enemies: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUlpBuEOUaJ-8VCG_Qogp8__yKboSpM7J

>> No.3453771

>>3430174
>Austrailian kid that goes by the name of Naixoram
No. Ellisong. https://github.com/ellisong/Riverback

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