Dreamcast

[Pieceofshit No.3384392]

Dreamcast thread. What do you think of the dreamcast games, hardware, online (when it was relevant and online now) the indie scene, etc?

[Anonymous No.3384405]

a few good pc games were on dreamcast so it must've been good as well

it also almost used 3dfx graphics chips

[Anonymous No.3384412]

My favorite Sega console and it solidified my love for arcade games thanks to the quality of its NAOMI conversions.

[Anonymous No.3384613]

>>3384392
it really needed a second control stick

[Anonymous No.3384912]

Anyone has a GDEMU around here? I was thinking of getting it.

[Anonymous No.3385040]

>>3384613
glad I am not the only one with this feel.

[Anonymous No.3386381]

>>3384392
Where is the best place to get Dreamcast cdis/isos? Emuparadise and TheISOZone have let me down

[Anonymous No.3386392]

Dynamite Cop is the best game on the DC

prove me wrong. You cant

[Anonymous No.3387102]

>>3386381
There's actually a couple groups that used to release them. DCres was one, but I've heard people complain about quality issues (I never noticed) and they put a watermark on the boot scree that's fugly. There was another group more recently that was doing high quality rips.

[Anonymous No.3387108]

>>3384613

and it needed both of those sticks to be of a better design than the one the DC got.

ABXY for strafing in 3rd/1st-person games was something I never liked

[Anonymous No.3387149]

>>3387108
With the controller it made sense, but I still never got used to it.

My dreamcast vision would have been
DVD tray
Same controller shape with control scheme identical to original Xbox
Web browser built in with ability to update
Mouse hooks into back of keyboard
No gimmicks
More online games

More 3d big world rpgs
More games aimed at adults

I think that could have saved the system. If they could have put a did tray in and sold it for under $300 it would have sold more. One thing that helped ps2 sell was for $300 you could get a dvd player(average of $150) and a game console. A solid Web browser too would have cut out a computer for some people too.

[Anonymous No.3387172]

Playing the dreamcast over VGA is really nice. It is the best picture possible, and auto scales to 4x3 on a TV. ALSO if your system can't remember the time, they sell coin battery holders that can fit into the holes of the old one for stupid cheap. Also grab a copy of Puzzle Fighter for maximum "fun"

[Anonymous No.3387365]

>>3384412
>Blue Stinger

Fucking loved that game. Shame it never got ported to Xbox along with Illbleed. RIP Nishigaki-san.

[Anonymous No.3388742]

Anyone got an NTSC cdi of Street Fighter Alpha 3? I can't find one that works when I burn it.

[Anonymous No.3388753]

>>3386381
Isozone is best place for Dreamcast ISOs

[Anonymous No.3388856]

>>3384392
I don't know how I ever played quake with that controller.

[Anonymous No.3389212]

I miss my Dreamcast. It felt like the bootup/read speed was far superior to the PS1 and PS2.

[Anonymous No.3389225]

>>3389212
The Dreamcast is shit compared to the PS2 desu

[Anonymous No.3389227]

>>3389212
the games and graphics are better too, I know the ps2 was technically superior but dreamcast games look so much brighter and clearer to me

[Anonymous No.3389234]

>>3389227
>the games are better
Nice bait.

[Anonymous No.3389263]

>>3389225
>>3389234
>he likes blurry, jaggy, 480i trash

lel

[Anonymous No.3389269]

>>3389263
>he thinks graphics>quality games
lol

[Anonymous No.3389274]

>>3389269
>he thinks JRPGs are quality

[Anonymous No.3389275]

>>3389274
JRPGs are the ultimate genre though.

[Anonymous No.3389284]

>>3389275

[Anonymous No.3389308]

>>3389234
>Pretending the PS2 had good games

Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.3389374]

Are there any good third-party controllers for Dreamcast? I'm not really a fan of the OEM controller, the stick and the d-pad are both okay but not great.

I'm looking for something with an excellent D-pad or an excellent stick, it doesn't necessarily have to have both.

[Anonymous No.3389531]

>>3389308
>Pretending the PS2 had good games
But it did. and a lot more than just those JRPGS too. Don't let your fanboy bias get in the way of enjoying thing anon.

>>3389263
Personally dig the more naturalistic color scheme and the ponytail of the PS2 a lot desu

[Anonymous No.3389739]

>>3386381
https://www.neofighters.info/forum/showthread.php?14795-Dreamcast-DCRES-Complete-Upload-US-EN-PT-BR-Post
GD file order, dummied to fit 700mb discs, and usually optimized to compress the least amount of data. The guy put in some serious work to make the best rips possible (Space Channel 5 ends up being better than official because of mixing in PS2 tracks and such)

[Anonymous No.3389757]

>>3389374
if you're looking for something to play shmups with, saturn to dreamcast adapter. excellent dpad but no stick unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.3389765]

>>3389374
It looks like the thumbstick of a PS2/3 controller could be made to fit snugly in place of the DC's stick, have been considering picking up one on ebay to try it out since the hard plastic nub makes me not want to play my Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.3389778]

>>3389765
I bought some xbox one sticks last week to replace, but they didn't fit right and I ruined them trying to modify to fit

[Anonymous No.3389783]

>>3389778
The bottom of the dreamcast's stick is just a small rectangular hole, so long as the ps2 nub fits in the hole for it, it should be workable.
No idea about the xbox1, still haven't seen or played one.

[Anonymous No.3389784]

>>3389783
It's the same but it didn't go deep enough, sure it stayed in when I put the controller back together but the stick was so barely-fitting that I couldn't move it at all

[Anonymous No.3389785]

>>3389784
Well at least the rubber nubs are under a buck each, so not the end of the world if one or two get fucked up trying.

[Anonymous No.3389798]

>>3384613
This is why Xbox controllers rock. Microsoft just took Sega's design with the DC controller and upgraded it with a second stick. I perfer the S over the Duke though.

The X360 and X1 controllers are worthy successors to the DC and Xbox controller. Just make sure you use a wired variant of either if you like resting your fingers on the back!

If you use a wireless variant of the X360 or X1 controller, a huge battery pack blocks your fingers from resting and forces you to grip them around the handles instead.

[Anonymous No.3389807]

>>3389374

You can say it, the D-Pad is fucking ass. Pulling off hadoukens with it is fucking painful

[Anonymous No.3390094]

>>3389531
Oh I don't, I've tried to go back and enjoy the PS2 but it's really, really shitty.

[Anonymous No.3390109]

>>3390094
(You)

[Anonymous No.3390128]

>>3390109
It doesn't work if you give me an actual (you), hombre.

[Anonymous No.3390163]

>>3384405
Kek.

Now I'm sad.

[Anonymous No.3390351]

>>3384392
Shittiest console of that era. If you dished out the asking price on launch day I feel nothing but pity for you. In fact, if you bought one at all when it was still being sold in stores you should look at that as one of the worst decisions you've ever made in your life.
It had a few good games (I remember playing a good version of Marvel vs Capcom on it with my cousins), but overall the library and the exclusives were shit-tier the likes of which I hope are never seen again.
But what really puts the nail on the coffin are the fucking horrible controllers. They were a slight step up from the even shittier Saturn controllers, but still extremely shitty. There are old Atari-era pong consoles with better controllers than that. Sega thought it could get away with it because of "muh lcd screen memory card gimmick".
In spite of it all, I am still thankful Sega released it, because it finally ended their stupid attempt at making consoles. Thus humanity was rid of their mediocre hardware.

[Anonymous No.3390356]

>>3390351
forgot to mention Seaman. Holy shit is that the creepiest/ugliest/stupidest game in the world. Did anybody actually enjoy playing that disgusting piece of filth? I remember seeing gameplay of that back when it came out and it completely turned me off from the system even back then. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.3390537]

>>3390351
Tl;dr

[Anonymous No.3390680]

>>3390537
Reading the first sentence is too long for you?

[Anonymous No.3390703]

>>3390351
>Shittiest console of that era.
That's not the N64 :)

>In spite of it all, I am still thankful Sega released it, because it finally ended their stupid attempt at making consoles. Thus humanity was rid of their mediocre hardware.
Why do you hate Sega's consoles so much anon?

[Anonymous No.3390934]

>>3389739
You are a God
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3390937]

>>3390351

[Anonymous No.3390957]

>>3390351
Hello, nintendogaf

[Anonymous No.3391328]

>>3390957
>>3390937
>>3390703
>>3390537
>can't refute any of the points let me just use ebin may-mays
Why are segacucks so pathetic?

[Anonymous No.3391393]

>>3384392
I think that Dreamcast games are way too expensive to get nowadays. It's especially irking becasue I had the games I wanted at some point and now they're like 50 dollars and up. Pic related

[Anonymous No.3391414]

>it's another Nintendo vs Sega shitpost thread
>no one can ever discuss the SNES or any Sega consoles without people shitting up the thread with console war bullshit

[Anonymous No.3391435]

>>3391393
Just burn them

[Anonymous No.3391448]

BEST
RETRO CONSOLE
EVER

[Owl No.3391457]

>>3389263
Always knew ps2 sucked at hair, and had zig zags.

[Anonymous No.3391536]

>>3391328
>Doesn't even bother answering my question in the bottom (>>3390703)
>calls out maymay posting, yet still resorts to posting meme frog
Come on anon, I know you can do better than that /:-)_\[

[Anonymous No.3391552]

>>3391328
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.3391578]

>>3389798
That was a problem with the 360, but Xbone controllers have it flush in the back.

[Anonymous No.3391595]

>>3391536
I don't really want to go into too much detail but I hate most Sega consoles because of almost every point I made in:
>>3390351
For example, the Genesis controllers, although better than the Dreamcast, are still large, clunky and with many useless buttons. The Genesis also had shitty exclusives. Two of their iconic series, for example, are Sonic and Golden Axe. Both horrible games, with very superficial gameplay. I could go on with every console they released, but this is just to give you an example

I'll admit most of the time Sega consoles had slightly better hardware (in some aspects), and they had better 3rd party ports (especially during the Genesis era, for example mortal combat and street fighter come to mind), but these are hardly redeeming qualities.

>inb4 nintendo fanboy

I think Nintendo is going down the road of Sega, especially if their new console flops, part of me hopes this happens so they'll release their games on other consoles or pc.

[Anonymous No.3391671]

>>3391595
While I still disagree with your thoughts regarding Sega, I can't really fault you for thinking those on the other side of things. Maybe it was wrong of me to shit on your opinion, as you're free to feel whatever you want to feel in the end though.


If I'm gonna be honest, I don't really care much for any post-Genesis/MD Sega console at all aside from a few things myself. I was just joshing ya from the above because it's fucking 4chinks after all.


>I think Nintendo is going down the road of Sega
I keep hearing people say this, but aside from a few small coincidences I don't really think their current situation is much akin to late 90's-early '00s Sega at all. In fact, so far it's a lot more stable than that really.

[Anonymous No.3391707]

>>3391671
>but aside from a few small coincidences I don't really think their current situation is much akin to late 90's-early '00s Sega at all.

Well, I would argue that the situation for consoles in general is tougher today than it was back then.
Even back when the Wii came out there was still a large market of "casual gamers", but now because of smart phones, casual gamers are not interested in owning consoles, and we all know hardcore gamers prefer pc's. Which leaves an ever-shrinking market share for consoles, both home consoles as well as mobile.
Both Sony and Microsoft can survive as companies if their consoles flop, but Nintendo can't. They depend too much on selling their consoles and then selling their games, which they do not license to anyone else.

Sorry if this shit isn't exactly retro, but I just think it's interesting how we this all could unfold.

[Owl No.3391713]

Nx is a portable system that plus in to tv to watch as an extra.

Console market is said to be doing very poor in Japan.

[Yee No.3391727]

>>3391713

Only 3 million systems sold ps4 in Japan and 63000 something xboxs ones.

[Anonymous No.3391850]

>>3387149
the dreamcast launched at $200. the biggest problem with the system was that a huge number of launch consoles (like close to half if i remember correctly) were manufactured wrong and were non functional. the system got an early reputation for unrealiability it was never able to shake. i think it could have competed with ps2 if they'd stuck with it. much higher quality games, tons of first party arcade stuff to port. the ps2 could push more polys but in practice it has the ugliest, muddiest graphics in console history.

[Anonymous No.3391859]

>>3389531
>naturalistic
is that what sony fanboys call shitty brown and green, the only colors ps2 can produce? that console was so low res and dim and had terrible ghosting. it did have some good games, but literally 80% of the library is shovelware

[Anonymous No.3391870]

>>3390351
dreamcast, partially because it died so quickly, probably has the highest average quality of any game library ever. you are wrong and a faggot. the dreamcast had great games, was a fine system, and i didn't love the conroller but i'd take it any day over the abortion that is the dual shock

[Anonymous No.3392529]

>>3391457
>zig zags
that's aliasing senpai

[Anonymous No.3393221]

>>3391870
>and i didn't love the conroller but i'd take it any day over the abortion that is the dual shock
1/10 making me reply

[Anonymous No.3393226]

How likely is it that most "doesn't read discs" Dreamcasts on ebay are actually just ones that need a laser calibration?

[Anonymous No.3393581]

>>3390957
>nintendogaf

you had one job.

[Anonymous No.3393669]

>>3393221
How was that bait? Dual shock is shit. One of the worst ever made.

[Anonymous No.3393712]

>>3393669
A lot of people really like the dual shock. I don't like it very much but to say it is an objectively bad controller when it's many people's favorite is stupid...or bait.

[Anonymous No.3393718]

>>3393669
Okay. I'll put it nice and simple for you, mr. autist. How many iterations of the Dualshock have there been now? 4.

How many of the Sega Dreamcast? 1.

If the Dualshock is so shitty why would it continue to sell so well?

[Anonymous No.3393784]

>>3389225
PS2 aged the worst of its generation.

[Anonymous No.3393786]

>>3384392
My second favorite Sega console after the Genny, but it kinda annoys me with the following things:
1-The controller is really uncomfortable. It doesn't "fit" very well on the hands;
2-The power cable gets loose after some time, forcing resets;
3-Too much noise when reading CDs;
4-Unlike Sony's PS2, games like Quake III Arena are almost impossible to control right without a Keyboard;

Nitpick aside, I love it. My favorite game in the library is Jet Set Radio.

[Anonymous No.3393801]

>>3391578
ty for the info. I got a third-party wired xbone controller for my PC, really liking it.

[Anonymous No.3393813]

>>3389263
>yes let's keep posting the jaggy japanese PS2 launch version of DOA2 and not the improved hardcore release
>that'll show those damn sonyfriends!

[Anonymous No.3393847]

>>3391870
>>3393221
>>3393669
>>3393712
>>3393718
20 y.o. Anon chiming in with my own opinion here.

I've played on PlayStation since I was a couple years old. PSX, PS2, PS3, moved to PC towards the end of the PS3's lifespan in 2012 after the only console-exclusive game I played anymore (Dark Souls) got ported to PC.

I still fire up the PS3 every once in a while just to play Demon's Souls for a nostalgiablast (was the first Souls game I played back in 2010), but that god-awful controller bothers me.

The issue with the DS1/DS2/DS3 as a grown adult is that they're all too small to comfortably hold by resting the controller on your hands-- they feel like they're going to slip off unless you death-grip the grips. I do not have big hands, and I'm not fat either. The DS4 solves this issue of size, but does not compensate for it in the right way... they didn't make the body of the controller larger, they made the grips larger....

>MFW

The 360/XB1 controller on the other hand is perfect because it's big enough for a fully-grown, NORMAL human being to rest the controller in their hands without having to death-grip it due to its larger size. On top of this, it's a superior controller for playing any game that emphasizes the left stick over the right stick (think 3D Platformers, Racers, etc) due to the placement of the left stick going where your thumb naturally rests.

[Anonymous No.3394050]

>>3393847
t. Soulsfag for the off topic blog post. No one asked for your shit opinions.

[Anonymous No.3394072]

How good are these? I'd like to get an arcade stick for DC since I have a bunch of fighting games for it, and the SNK ones don't let you use the analog stick. Can I use it with another system if I hook it up with a DC to USB adapter? It would be nice if I could use it for other games like Street Fighter V

[Anonymous No.3394075]

>>3394072
For PC, sure.
Other consoles don't have the drivers to support it so it won't work on those.

[Anonymous No.3396093]

>>3393786
>2-The power cable gets loose after some time, forcing resets;
It's actually far more likely to be the pins that connect the power board to the motherboard. You need to disassemble much of the console and bend the pins a little in that case.

[Anonymous No.3396856]

Hey guys, so I downloaded and burnt a copy of Street Fighter Alpha 3 for Dreamcast using THIS >>3389739 link, but it doesn't display for me. Anyone else have this issue? The VMU displays the Alpha 3 logo, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.3397116]

>>3391850
The point was not that the dreamcast would have sold more if it's price was lower, the point was that if the dreamcast could play dvds and was no more than $300 it would have sold more.

[Anonymous No.3397135]

>>3393718
>If the Dualshock is so shitty why would it continue to sell so well?
Because it's been the best first party option for 4 different consoles that sold very well(one being the best selling console of all time) you dense motherfucker. You can't play any of the games without owning a controller of some sort.

[Anonymous No.3397735]

Many Dreamcast games have to be ripped/downsampled in order to fit onto a CD-R.

This causes their cutscenes to look like Sega CD and their music to sound like SNES.

I would prefer to buy the original in that case, but when I'm at the game store I have no way of knowing if the game would fit on a CD-R or not.

What genres of game tend to fill up the whole Dreamcast disc?

What genres of game tend to use only part of the available space on the Dreamcast disc?

[Anonymous No.3398108]

>>3397735
That's a bit of an exxageration. It's not that bad, but it's noticeable if you ever played the original. I'm about to look for unaltered rips and buy some 99 minute cdrs. I'm going to test them side by side if I can actually get them to work, to compare quality loss.

[Anonymous No.3398121]

It seems like the few games I burned to my leftover colored discs play fine right away, but the silver ones need the console to "warm up" before they start reading consistently, usually I put in a colored dis and let it run a good 20 minutes before trying another disc.
Is there an explaination for this? Was it a fluke or are the silver ones just trash?

[Anonymous No.3398141]

>>3398121
Some discs are better than others, some times burns aren't good, sometimes it's the program, sometimes it's the drive. I've had mixed results. I remember reading once that there are really only 3 cdr manufacturers, companies buy them, label them, package them, and sell them as their own product. I also read dream cast doesn't like one manufacturer in particular.

I usually use image burn, and have 4 different brands of cdrs on hands. One time i tried multiple discs, multiple burn speeds, and eventually had to try a different program before I could get it to work. It's annoying, but if you're looking for cheap 6 cdrs are still cheaper than a lot of the good dream cast games.

[Anonymous No.3398145]

>>3398141
I might also add some dreamcasts have a higher success rate than others.

[Anonymous No.3398480]

>>3397735
I think Shmups usually don't take up the whole disc.

Does the Dreamcast have any retro compilation packs? Those probably will fully fit on a CD-R.

[Anonymous No.3398975]

>>3389374
Got ya covered bro. The ASCII fighting pad for the DC is awesome. I found the SNK blue one. They also have a Capcom yellow one as well.

[Anonymous No.3398981]

>>3398975
*black with yellow buttons
I meant to say, for the Capcom version.

[Anonymous No.3398989]

>>3390351

[Anonymous No.3398991]

>>3394072
I have one and I really like it. Solid construction but my only complaints are the dead-zone around the joystick is rather large and the buttons are not as springy as I would like. I still play Third Strike and MVC2 no problem and pull of great combos with ease.

[Anonymous No.3400536]

>>3398989

This.

Fuck >>3390351

[Anonymous No.3400605]

I don't get the question, "relevant". Any game/console is relevant" to the person playing it. A console being modern and mass media and with money doesn't make it "relevant".

[Anonymous No.3401880]

>>3398975
I've heard the D-pad is shit on that. Should just use a Saturn->DC adapter instead.

[Anonymous No.3402163]

Is that Records of Lodoss game any good or is it just a Diablo clone?