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3377157 No.3377157 [Reply] [Original]

So the advertisement for it mentions playing the classics in "HD".

Is there any trickery going on in this little machine that's helping translated these made for CRT images onto HD TV's?
Or is it just straight up emulation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGVilt3Rls

>> No.3377165

>>3377157

nobody knows yet

>> No.3377173

>>3377157
No it's a 1:1 miniature hardware clone with an RGB PPU and an XRGB upscaler for $60

>> No.3377174

99% sure it's just an emubox like the Atari re-releases. Just look at the ad material directly above which features 30 games

>> No.3377175

>>3377157
If they don't have CRT filters, you can kick and scream about false advertising!

>> No.3377179

>>3377174
It's funny that you specifically mention the Atari flashbacks because at least one of them (FB3 IIRC) is enough of a legit clone to even have pads where a cartridge slot can be added. Many other plug and play consoles are based on the venerable NOAC clone chip with the titles actually being ported to NES format. Software is cheaper to develop than hardware.

>> No.3377181

>>3377179
>enough of a legit clone to even have pads where a cartridge slot can be added
Yeah I have that system and have modified it. Works well and this seems like the exact same marketing strategy. Smaller machine, same styling, emulated and pre-loaded games

>> No.3377186

>>3377181
The NES Mini will likely be an emulator my guess will be running on Android since Pokemon Go has probably cured Nintendo its fear of Droid. My point was that Atari flashbacks are not emulators, they're clones.There's a difference.

>> No.3377191

Question for the thread.

What is the "tech" being used in the New 3DS for SNES games. They called it "Perfect Pixel Mode" in the announcement for the New 3DS.
https://youtu.be/VYmziqP-A0o

Can it be applied to this?

>> No.3377198

>>3377191
It's just some marketing buzzword meaning nothing. The NES Mini being based off 3DS hardware is another possibility but I'd say it'd be more likely to be based on Wii hardware considering it's controller ports. I still lean more towards android though based on its power supply.

>> No.3377201

>>3377175
>CRT filters
That's the "in the old days" portion of the commercial.

>> No.3377204

>>3377191
It just means square pixels.

>> No.3377217

>>3377191
No more fuzz from stretching it to 4:3.

>> No.3377236

Why the fuck does everyone think that the NES Mini HAS to render at 240p? It's a fucking emulator targeted to normies with 1080p HDTVs. Emulators can output higher native resolutions than originally designed for, and will probably be the case here.

>> No.3377242

>>3377236
Nobody but OP thinks that.

>> No.3377246

>>3377236
This is /vr/. 240p is one of our commandments.

>> No.3377247

>not re-releasing mini SD cards with the original games on them, in little packages, for like 5 dollars each

>> No.3377248

Whats under the cartridge door?

>> No.3377267

>>3377165
Portable NX hardware, the console will not only cost more but will also use up more power as well.
>>3377173
No.
>>3377198
No.
>>3377236
THIS IS NOT AIMED AT NORMIES! This was ONLY made because the Wii U's emulators were so bad that Nintendo started from scratch with the NES emulator rather then fixing the VC game by game.

>> No.3377271

Probably nothing.

>> No.3377280

>>3377247
wow that's like free money for Nintendo. Sometimes I wish there was more Jews working there.

>> No.3377310

>>3377280
You know how nuts people would go over the little mini cartridges?

I would buy them all.

>> No.3377317

>>3377267
You're real aggressive for somebody talking out his ass.

>> No.3377319
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3377319

Why not just buy a Nes?

This will be emulator tier.

>> No.3377324

>>3377317
I'm not talking out of my ass, this only got a release because of how bad the emulators are on the Wii U.

>> No.3377335

>>3377324
So you have some source on that other than your ass? I only ask because what you're saying is stupid. The VC runs exactly the way Nintendo wants it to and if they wanted it to run differently they could change it.

>> No.3377347

>>3377319
Because this product is targeted to people who can't get into emulation and don't want to buy a real NES.

>> No.3377369

>>3377335
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125
>>3377347
No it is not, it was made because the Wii U emulators are so bad that it will be much easier to start over from scratch then to fix the Wii U's VC.

>> No.3377395

>>3377369
>Neogaf whining idiots from 2015 as a source on NES Mini
Okay so yes you are just talking out your ass

>> No.3377406

>>3377395
First off GAF member Gonzo The Great runs Digital Eclipse who are known for making shoddy emulators and when you know when Digital Eclipse made a better emulator then Nintendo you know you fucked up so Nintendo's staff read the whole topic and fixed it on their demands.

Gonzo The Great was banned from GAF because he refused to patch the Mega Man Legacy Collection's sound issues.

I AM NOT TALKING OUT OF MY ASS! You're delusional, seek help.

>> No.3377443

>>3377406
Gonzo go home

>> No.3377485

>>3377443
Why? is it because of the sound of Mega Man Legacy Collection.

Also, I'm not Gonzo.

>> No.3377492

>>3377406
Just so you know, I just explained to my wife your argument that the NES Mini is targeted specifically at hardcore enthusiasts who are unsatisfied with the WiiU's virtual console and that it's simpler to release a whole new console than change the WiiU's emulators. Even she knew why that's stupid without me needing to explain anything.

>> No.3377501

>>3377485
sure you're not, Gonzo, I mean Gonzo

>> No.3377503

>>3377492
You made that up, if there were no issues with the Wii U's VC (dark filter, fuzz & lag) then the NES Mini would of never been made.

>> No.3377508

>>3377503
please kys right now

>> No.3377517
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3377517

>mfw is Nestopia using emuparadise roms, pretty much like the retron 5 stealing the source code from SNES9X

>> No.3377518

>>3377503
the nes mini only has 30 games
it is not a replacement for VC
or much of anything really
(but yes, the output is much nicer than the wiiu's vc)

>> No.3377525

don't talk to me or my son ever again

>> No.3377553

>>3377157
>That "NOW YOU'RE PLAYING WITH POWER" at the end
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in owning one of these. They'd probably just get scalped to shit on day 0 though so I'll just see if I can snatch up one of the controllers instead. I'm still a bit mad that we never got those SNES classic controllers over here, and that they were Japanese Club Nintendo only. There's so much shit that they could just sell normally and make money from.

>> No.3377556

>Is there any trickery going on in this little machine that's helping translated these made for CRT images onto HD TV's?
yes, it's called upscalling you fucking autist
>Or is it just straight up emulation?
or course not you fucking retarded shit, it's all original hardware

>> No.3377569

>>3377553
>They'd probably just get scalped to shit on day 0 though

Yeah, I'll bet my pathetic little dick on that. Funny part will be watching all the retards paying $150 for this because they can't wait a few months for the inevitable future shipments. It is like these fucked don't understand that Nintendo likes making money and that they will continue to sell things beyond shipment 1 if the market is accepting of the product.

Speaking of which, are people still trying to scalp amiibo? I remember people going apes hit over those but now I feel like the investor/scalper frenzy has died off.

>> No.3377586

>>3377569
Amiibo scalping was different because the production process takes months due to much of the details being painted on by hand, but with a machine like this it probably won't be that long.
One thing you do have to keep in mind is that this is a holiday season product, and you know how rabid and desperate people can get when it comes to gift shopping. Doesn't help that it has Nintendo slapped all over it as well, something like this might actually sell a good deal if enough people hear about it.

>> No.3377605

>>3377517
It's not the same. Nestopia is under GPLv2 which means anybody can use it for commercial projects while Snes9x is under a license that prohibits commercial use. They could even tivoize it.

>> No.3377642

>>3377406

>fighting this hard to prove a point on an anonymous message board
>telling other people to seek help

Lmao look at this fucking guy

>> No.3377645 [DELETED] 

>>3377642
No, just no.

You're delusional, seek help.

>> No.3377671

>>3377248
it doesn't open

>> No.3377692

>>3377267
>THIS IS NOT AIMED AT NORMIES!
Lol what
This is aimed EXACTLY for normies.
It's not like /vr/ auditory can't emulate it.

>> No.3377693

>>3377157
Emulation duh, it does not allow carts.

That being said tough, i saw it on Comicon, and look cute and comfy, but the biggest issue here is the "one trick pony" vibe.

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3377696

>>3377693

>> No.3377782

>>3377517
Nintendo did use PocketNES for those NES Classics on GBA.

>> No.3377897

>>3377692
Dude (or mam), millions of people were bitching and complaining about the lag the Wii U's VC had (as well as the dark filter and fuzz) and this went on so much that Nintendo made the NES Mini because it will be MUCH easier to start from scratch with (potable) NX hardware then the fix the cluster fuck that is the Wii U's VC.

>> No.3377901

>>3377782
No, those were 3rd party companies who used them; Nintendo used a emulator they made themselves.

>> No.3377910

>>3377897
All right, I accept your point point of view, but why it is NX hardware?

>> No.3377915

>>3377910
Low power and enough power to emulate the NES 1:1 to real hardware as the 3DS runs at 240p (a upscaler + 3DS hardware will cost more to make then the NES Mini) and the Wii U runs at 30-40 watts (and has bad emulation with it).

>> No.3377920

>>3377406

being this butthurt

I love /vr/
all the most autistic sperglords of 4chins congregate together to spaz about games they played when they were 5

>> No.3377923

>>3377920
This is not being butthurt, it's posting facts.

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3377936

>>3377267
>This clone console was made for people who already own, emulate, or everdrive the games, not people who don't

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3377943

>>3377406
>you're talking out of your ass please give us a source

>>no that's not true i'm not talking out of my ass I have a legit source

>give us the source then

>>some fucking post from another fucking forum

Am I being baited

>> No.3377945

>>3377936
Yea, they knew the Wii U emulators were bad.

>> No.3377947

>>3377943
Nope, no bait.

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3377949

>>3377947
Alright Anon then you're just a flawed human being.

Here I'll school you on what a credible source means: a piece of information direct from the a first party source or at least a "credible" party.
Speculation: conjecture based on some evidence.

Everyone here is speculating, which is fine, but speculation and credible sources are different things. When you're speculating you're talking out of your ass, which again is fine, but it's not fine however when you claim that you're not.

>> No.3377969

>>3377319

You'd pay way more than $60 to buy the nes and those 30 games if you bought it all through ebay in one sitting

This is just like a party console for normies that don't want to use their computer, own carts and don't use the VC/own a wii.

>> No.3377972

>>3377696

I hope they don't fuck this up by making the controller cables too short

>> No.3377983

>>3377267
Enthusiasts are not emulating on the Wii U, dude, are you high. Enthusiasts are either playing on either:

1.Original hardware with a flashcart
2.Emulation with a CRT monitor setup
3.Emulation with an expensive LCD monitor to minimize input latency

This console is not important to anyone with a working computer or the original hardware.

>> No.3378010

>>3377983
The thing is that those guys are not enthusiasts, their just gamers who care about Nintendo.

You also forgot.
4.Original hardware with a RGB CRT monitor setup.

The hardware is important because it's the first piece of NX hardware to be shipped.

>> No.3378027

>>3377157

I wonder what palette it will use and if then discussions will rise whether that is the "true" one, which the real NES still doesn't have.

>> No.3378036
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3378036

It could easily be the Wii hardware with an upscaler and that's it. Shit's cheap.

>people seriously saying it's anything close to new hardware like a fucking NX
>for 60 dollars

>> No.3378051

>>3378036
The Portable's chip set is said to be 15 bucks (50 for the console).

ARM & PowerVR chip sets are cheap.

Also they don't have the IBM license anymore and die shrunked Wii + HDMI upscaler will cost much more then the portable NX chip set.

>> No.3378053

>>3377267
>THIS IS NOT AIMED AT NORMIES!
It's a Nintendo

>> No.3378056

>>3378053
And the Wii U emulators suck ass, hence why this was made.

>> No.3378058

>>3377920
So much this

>> No.3378059

>>3378058
No, it has nothing to do with that.

>> No.3378061

>>3378056
Implying Normie's could tell the difference between Wii U emulations and the original game

>> No.3378063

>>3378056

Well, no, it doesn't.

>> No.3378070

>>3378061
Wii U=fuzzy and darker, also lots of lag as not even your TV's game mode can fix it.

Real hardware=Cleaner and brighter, even they know for the best picture you need a NESRGB daughter board modded into the system as Composite video on a modern day display is not a good idea, also use a Framemister with that as well as it not only cuts down on lag but most TVs do not have scart inputs as well.

The issue is that real hardware with the RGB mod and Framemister is expensive so... NES Mini.
>>3378063
Yes, it was.

>> No.3378074

>>3377198
>likely to be based on Wii hardware considering it's controller ports.
That's the most retarded bullshit logic one can ever make.
Fuck this is a retro board. You've seen DE9 everywhere, isn't it clear to you at this point that the Megadrive isn't based on Atari 2600 hardware?

>> No.3378076

>>3378056
>why this was made.
Hint: it's a lazy, low-effort way to print money. Get a $2 arm board and smear the Nintendo logo all over it, bingo, +$58 profit per unit.
This is designed for the mass. Don't expect outstanding emulation.

>> No.3378078

>>3378070
>Composite video on a modern day display is not a good idea
It's not a good idea on a CRT either, but 'murica absolutely wanted to stick with that shit instead of doing the sensible thing and upgrading to anything RGB in order to just drop encoders (pride of being the motherland of RCA even when it engineered garbage).

>> No.3378092

You can only pley the 30 games or theres a way to play other games too? I dont see a cart fitting there.

>> No.3378097

>>3378076
No, This was only made because of how bad the Wii U emulators are, said ARM/PowerVR hardware is $15 which how much the portable NX's chip set costs (the console's chip set is $50 due to using higher grade chips), it is using a 4 core Cortex A53 at 1.6GHz (console uses 2 4 core clusters (8 cores in total) of Cortex A72 chips at 2.5GHz) with a PowerVR GTX8600 at 650MHz(console uses the GTX8900 at 1GHz) with 4GB of LPDDR4 ram (console uses 8GB GDDR5 ram at 224GB/s).

End of story.
>>3378078
Most people in those days went with RF or Composite, it was not just the US that most people went with the low grad video output as the higher grade stuff costing to much but all video formats running in Y/C or YCrCb later on and not RGB so a RGB input was not needed for most people outside of gamers and people needed a large 15KHz PC monitor.

>> No.3378098

>>3378092
It's only the 30 inbuilt games. Nintendo really missed a trick here. They could have stuck a WiFi adapter in there, had it automatically connect to the Nintendo store, and let people buy and download new games from there. They could have made a killing.

>> No.3378105

>>3378098
lel nintendo is just genius! please, whod fucking buy that thing. only hc gamers or people who want to throw their money. pretty useless release. theres nothing there for the average emulation gamer.

>> No.3378106

Aren't GBA games pretty good on the Wii U? They don't suffer from the same darkness and blurriness that N64, NES, etc. games on there do.

>> No.3378107

>>3378070
>>3378078
The NES was designed to generate composite video so the point is moot. SCART is trash, and NES RGB Mods that aren't a Playchoice-10 PPU are just emulation.

>> No.3378115

>>3378107
Only it's pallet as it's still using the RP2C07-0 chip for everything else.

Scart is only trash if you are using it's composite output, it's excellent if you are using it's RGB out put with composite sync (never use sync on composite unless you have to).

>> No.3378119

>>3378107
>NES RGB Mods that aren't a Playchoice-10 PPU are just emulation.
Erroneous. Please don't encourage people to cannibalize Playchoice PCBs.

>>3378097
So much ass-talking. Don't you ever sleep?

>>3378074
As I said, my #1 expectation is that it'll be Android but Nintendo does have the production facilities to make Wiis and they've already produced one stripped down "slim" Wii.

>> No.3378121

>>3378119
There is no ass-talking here.

Also Android has audio lag that IOS lacks and Nintendo always uses a custom made OS.

>> No.3378123

Will the NES mini be able to add more games to its library in the future? Or is it just the 30 already that comes with it forever?

>> No.3378124

It's probably just some emulation device.
But since Nintendo has "high" standards, it'll probably be a good emulation device.

It's for those people who had a NES as kids, normies and people who collect nintendo shit. Nothing to be excited about.
They did good to release it near christmas. I imagine a shitload of 30 year olds will be getting one for christmas.

>> No.3378126

>>3378123
See >>3378098

>> No.3378129

>>3378124
>It's for those people who had a NES as kids, normies.
No, we already been through with this, this was only made because the Wii U's emulators were so bad that Nintendo started from scratch with the NES emulator rather then fixing the VC game by game.

>> No.3378131

>>3378126
baka Looks like I should have read thru the thread first. Thanks!

>> No.3378134

>>3378129
I don't think so.
You're looking at it from a critical /vr/ perspective. I don't think nintendo is doing the same.

But hey, we'll see.

>> No.3378135

>>3378129
It's just the Nintendo equivalent of an Atari Flashback or AtGames Megadrive. It's just a nostalgia toy for Christmas.

>> No.3378138

>>3378121
>What is Pokemon Go
Also Android's audio lag has been fixed for like four years now.

>> No.3378141

>>3378134
He's looking at it from an autist's perspective. He's gotten an idea in his head and he'll do any mental gymnastics it requires to feel "smart" when in reality he's dumb as shit.

>> No.3378142

>>3378135
No it is not, if the Wii U had better emulators then things thing will not exist.
>>3378138
Thanks for the news flash.

>> No.3378145

>>3378141
That is completely false.
>>3378134
Again, they made the NES Mini because the Wii U's emulators were so bad that Nintendo started from scratch with the NES emulator rather then fixing the VC game by game.

>> No.3378149

>>3378145
And what proof do you have of that?
I mean, you're so convinced that they made their own emulator from scratch, what makes you think that?
It's much cheaper to get spare parts from old Wii consoles or similar and just snap their already existing emulator on them and sell it for 60 bucks.

>> No.3378151

>>3378145
Repeating stupid shit over and over again doesn't make it any less stupid

>> No.3378154

>>3378142
But a Wii U doesn't come in a nice NES-shaped package with original design controllers.

>> No.3378153 [DELETED] 

>>3378149
The Wii takes up to much power for USB 2.0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125
The topic that made Nintendo make the NES Mini.

>> No.3378157

>>3378151
It is not stupid shit, it is intelligent gold.

>> No.3378159

>>3378153
>The topic that made Nintendo make the NES Mini.
Oh for fucks sake. Why am I even giving you attention.

>> No.3378160

>>3378154
Quality of the emulator>shape of the unit.
>>3378149
The Wii takes up too much power for USB 2.0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125
The topic that made Nintendo make the NES Mini.

>> No.3378162

>>3378145
>>3378142
That's not true. The WiiU has had abysmal sales so "fixing" an emulator for one of their old systems wouldn't increase sales. These things are marketed towards nostalgia fags, that includes VC emulation, because anyone who is seriously so anally nitpicky about their emulation would use higan or some shit on pc.

This is non expandable; you can't put more games on it. It's shaped to lure in retro hipsters and work off nostalgia, and it can be sold to people who both own and don't own a Wii U.

Also
>Nintendo started from scratch with the NES emulator rather then fixing the VC game by game.
Nintendo uses the same "VC" emulator for all their systems. The GBA emulator also emulates NES, also emulates SNES; it's the same emulator packaged with different roms. To "fix" their emulator would take no minimal effort, but putting in the effort doesn't mean more sales because most people don't give a shit and most people don't own a WiiU.

You're a laughable cunt mate, you really are, falling for marketing or neogaf bullshit, whichever of the two.

>> No.3378163

I won't buy one since I already own a majority of the games that are on the mini but if they had the option to add more games in the future I probably would. Like >>3378098 said. They dun fucked up.

>> No.3378164

>>3378153
>Nintendo decided to make a new console because some autists were complaining on Neogaf
Seems legit

>> No.3378165

>>3378056
This was made because they're not releasing the NX this christmas and it's a easy way to make christmas cash. Why do you think it's coming out in November.

>> No.3378169

>>3378160
>The topic that made Nintendo make the NES Mini.
Where did Nintendo said they made the NES mini because of autists on neogaf? I'm genuinely curious, you've really convinced yourself here but where's the proof?

>> No.3378173

>>3378164
Gonzo The Great runs Digital Eclipse so he knows what he is talking about.
>>3378162
This was not made for nostalgia fags, VC was also never made for nostalgia fags either, it was made for real gamers and it was those people who complained about the emulation quality on the Wii U, they bitched because they cared and Nintendo read their complaints so that they can fix it with the NES Mini.

>Nintendo uses the same "VC" emulator for all their systems.
Not true, the Wii U's GBA emulator (the only good one on the Wii U) was made by M2, the masters of retail emulators.

>> No.3378178

>>3378165
But it is using the portable NX hardware, it somewhat counts as NX hardware.
>>3378169
Please read every post.

>> No.3378181

>>3378178
>But it is using the portable NX hardware, it somewhat counts as NX hardware.
(You)

>> No.3378182

>>3377503
Yeah, it's not like the WiiU sold poorly or anything. Stfu already, this shit is being targeted to casuals.

>> No.3378183

>>3378173
>Some Autist who regularly post on Neogaf
>Knowing what he's talking about

>> No.3378186

>>3378178
Holy shit, so you're telling me Nintendo actually came out and said it's because some website's autism was not sated? Just link me to Nintendo's post man, you seem to know where it is, I'll wait!

>> No.3378191

>>3378173
I'm going to laugh so hard when this shit box console still has input lag and dark games.

>> No.3378192

>>3378182
It is not being aimed at casuals, it's aimed at core gamers who care about emulation.
>>3378183
Gonzo The Great is not a autist, he is the head of Digital Eclipse who is known for making shoddy emulators and when you know Digital Eclipse made a better emulator then Nintendo you know you're in deep shit.
>>3378186
No, they came out with the NES Mini because MILLIONS of people were not satisfied with the VC on the Wii U.

>> No.3378195

>>3378191
It will not, it was made to fix those issues, also no wireless support.

>> No.3378198

>>3378191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGVilt3Rls
Sharp, clear and bright.

>> No.3378203

>>3378192
>No, they came out with the NES Mini because MILLIONS of people were not satisfied with the VC on the Wii U.

Textbook example of battered wife Nintendrone syndrome. The last product was horrible but this next product will be good! You'll see! It was made specifically for me! Can't wait to buy the same shit again! Guys seriously, Nintendo will get it right next time!

>> No.3378204

>>3378192
C'mon man, I'm dying for you to link me where Nintendo said that! I want to be a believer, just like you, that Nintendo removed lag and the darkness from their games, and selected the 30 objective best NES games for our refined palette! Where did Nintendo say it was because people millions were not satisfied? Just show me!

>> No.3378205

This is the most fun I've had on 4chan for a while. I love baiting autists.

>> No.3378206

>>3378173
>it was made for real gamers
Define a "real gamer" please. Last time I heard these words was an ad of PS4.

>> No.3378208

>>3378203
No, Kimishima will not let that happen.
>>3378204
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125

>> No.3378213

>>3378206
Core gamer.

>> No.3378215

>>3378208
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125
Hahaha man, I know you're just kidding, there's no posts made by Nintendo there! Now stop leading me on man, I just can't wait any longer! Where's Nintendo's posts? I know they gotta be somewhere else, why you hiding them from me? ;)

>> No.3378216

>>3378215
I'm not kidding.

You're delusional, please seek help before it's to late.

>> No.3378217

>>3378173
>Real gamers
Kek
That's like calling yourself a hardcore reader, or a professional television watcher

>> No.3378218

>>3378208
Are you JoeM86? Because you both sound like delusional Nintendo apologists who keep making up excuses for a used game company that is clearly trying to make money off casuals, not dedicated autists such as yourselves. Is that why you keep linking to that thread? Because Gonzo replied to you

>> No.3378219

>>3378216
But I read the thread and Nintendo didn't make a single post! Where is it man? Just link the post I can't see.

>> No.3378220

>>3378218
No, I have nothing to do with Pokemon Co. UK.

>> No.3378228

>>3378217
>That's like calling yourself a hardcore reader, or a professional television watcher
Dunno about prof. TV watchers, but some call themselves TRUE READERS.

>> No.3378229 [DELETED] 

>>3378215
Lol this thread is just nothing but people trying to make excuses and justify that it's ok the emulator on WiiU is shit.

>muh CRT filter
>It's your TV OP

Why would Nintendo make something that tries to cater to the demands on Nintendrones when this thread you keep trying to link shows you idiots will buy up anything. If they really have a shit about you as a consumer they would have patched or fixed the WiiU emulator after 4 fucking years. GTFO out of here you delusional autist. Why don't you people get obsessed with something useful to society like math or some shit.

>> No.3378231

Speaking of NES picture quality on the Wii U.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QNALuSkLA

>> No.3378236

>>3378213
And why then core gamer will pay two or three times for the same games what core gamer can play on the original systems?

>> No.3378239

>tfw Core Gamer anon won't share the link where Nintendo says they're making all your hopes and dreams come true
It's a sad night tonight. All I wanted was to see the posts by Nintendo and I got stuffed around :(

>> No.3378242

>>3378236
Because Framemisters and some games in their original format (Little Samson which is not on this thing, but it should) are expensive.

>> No.3378249

>>3378239
Being a core gamer is buying an emulation box and being on with it instead of demanding that stuff you already paid for works properly. Basically /v/ levels of shilling and viraling.

>> No.3378253

>>3378242
But it's not like expensive games available on the VC.

>> No.3378256

>>3378217
>hardcore reader
go back to your matthew reiley and tom clancy you casual fuck

>> No.3378271

maybe meme magic can result in a minaturised NES-on-a-chip which reproduces that hardware faithfully.

Praise kek

>> No.3378275

>>3378271
Of course! You've gotta believe! But I'm having doubts myself as that non still hasn't linked me Nintendo announcing it themselves :(

Only for the 30 Greatest Of All Time games for the system though, you don't need to play others when you're a Core Gamer, like myself and Core Gamer Anon. ;)

>> No.3378280

The thing is, in the press release, they state that there are 'save points' ie save states.

But... save states COULD (in theory) be implemented in hardware!

>> No.3378294

>>3378173
>Not true, the Wii U's GBA emulator (the only good one on the Wii U) was made by M2, the masters of retail emulators.
What about the DS emulator on the Wii U?

>> No.3378387

>>3378242
>What is a flash cartridge

>> No.3378389

>>3378387
Expensive

>> No.3378391

>>3378389
$30 more than an emulator box, plays hundreds more than just 30 roms, games are played on the real hardware and not an emulation. $30 more than a Nintendo approved emulator box too much for you

>> No.3378395

>>3378391
>$30 more than an emulator box, plays hundreds more than just 30 roms
An emulator box can play a lot more since it isn't restricted to a single system.
Being real hardware instead of emulation is more of a disadvantage.

>> No.3378396
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3378396

>>3378271
Aw man that would be so fucking hardcore for real gamers! With a full specced sound chip function? Tyte! We'll open the thing up and inside we'll find 30 ROM chips with the original games reproduced bit-for-bit on them plus all the necessary mappers so we know for sure that every single fucking function call has exactly the same quadrillasecond timing as on the original hardware and they'll only make like 10,000 of them so truly dedicated gamers like myself who have already made a reservation at Gamestop will ever EVER have one. I have such a huge boner right now omg

>> No.3378397

>>3378395
By emulator box I mean NES mini, the topic of the thread, not a raspberry pi or similar. Sorry anon, I was confusing.

>> No.3378401

>>3378395
Then emulate on your computer which costs nothing or select any one of the dozen or so stand alone options that are better values than this thing. This is why Nintendo is hiding the specs until you're in love with the image. This is exactly Nintendo's MO.

>> No.3378402

>>3378396
My nigga! Now you're sounding like a Core Gamer! Nintendo is making this FOR YOU, because YOU are worth it! True to hardware, perfect cycle and colour accuracy, my dicks hard enough to jab your eye out through my computer monitor, jesus christ. Game on brother!

>> No.3378412
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3378412

Somebody please archive this thread

>> No.3378487

>>3378162
>This is non expandable; you can't put more games on it.
You're a fucking idiot. It'll have builtin WIFI to connect to Nintendo's eShop service, where you'll be able to buy additional games because the whole thing is nothing more than a glorified standalone virtual console system for hipsters.

>> No.3378509

>>3378487
Holy fuuuuuck that sounds amazing. You're telling me Nintendo said it's got Wifi and Eshop? Fuck me, I literally cannot wait to purchase and download more chips from Nintendo, you've really made my dreams come true man. And here I was impressed at the timeless collection of 30 games prebundled with the classic hardware we all know and love! Haha can you imagine how sour the Japs are right now? No Famicom Mini in sight, all the good stuff only for the best! THANK YOU NINTENDO!

>> No.3378514

>>3378487
No it won't
http://kotaku.com/the-mini-nes-wont-open-cant-connect-to-the-internet-1783693116

>> No.3378515

>>3378514
>Kotaku
They probably made it up.

Looks like you need to reread the NES Mini bible, friend: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125

>> No.3378520

>>3378515
Oh fuck. I thought you had finally gone to bed.

http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/14/12193472/mini-nes-classic-edition-faq-nintendo

>> No.3378521

>>3378119
I am absolutely NOT advocating that. Using an NES RGB board is PPU emulation though, that's just a fact. If you want to play NES, either emulate it or use real hardware. Don't pretend you're playing real hardware by sticking an FPGA with more power than the original console on your PPU and thinking it's 'authentic'.

>> No.3378525

>>3378520
I'm not that guy, just a fellow Core Gamer and preacher :^)

>> No.3378528

>>3378138
kek, that's why none of the good audio applications get released for trashdroid right?

>> No.3378534

>>3378525
Kek

>> No.3378740

>>3378528
You mean like that Kaosilator emulator? That's on account of touch screen delay or it might just be because of Apple's licensing. That was before sic semper Jobs.Hopefully no Core Gamers are still emulating using touch controls.

>> No.3378797
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3378797

ITT: Nobody knows has a clue about mass-produced electronics.

It's not an emulator. The hardware to emulate it over, a straight NES ASIC would put it out of that price range. It's hugely wasteful and expensive on components.

This type of thing has been done numerous times. It's a custom NES-on-a-chip and a very cheap ARM chip that does the picture conversion to HDMI, the on-screen game selection menu and maps the controllers to the pins the NES imagines they are connected to.

It amazes me anybody can be so ill-informed to actually think there could be a GC/Wii chipset in there.

tl;dr Emulation is way more expensive hardware -wise than you think. Profit is everything for such a product and component count will be ridiculously low.

>> No.3378821

Why did this thing never take off? RetroUSB AVS console. Warning: loud shitty music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZIoq7pp34

>> No.3378828

>>3378797
>It's not an emulator. The hardware to emulate it over, a straight NES ASIC would put it out of that price range.
...
>It's hugely wasteful and expensive on components. This type of thing has been done numerous times. It's a custom NES-on-a-chip and a very cheap ARM chip
Dude what

So you're saying instead of an ARM chip running an emulator it's an ARM chip and a custom ASIC? How is that cheaper? Do you not realize the raspi zero can run NES games and costs $5?

>> No.3378842

>>3378821
that thing looks nice. when was it launched and why was it never mentioned in the clone threads?

>> No.3378847

>>3378828
And RPi0 has way more components than needed -- and has no case. Also, you're totally undervaluing the cost of software development; writing an emulator is crazy expensive and unreliable.

You're also totally forgetting support costs. For every socket and byte of software this thing has, that's costs. If it had an SD card slot you've got a support nightmare right there with your average consumer trying to jam their XD or MS card in and what-not.

I'm telling you, it'll be an ASIC+ARM just the same as the Spectrum Vega/+, I'd even place bets on the ASIC design having been done by Chris Wilson who did the Spectrum Vega; he's not the only qualified person to do the work, but is the most recently practised. Screenshot this for when the device drops.

>> No.3378854

>>3378821
> it's going to sell for under $200!
Gee I wonder.

Normalfags don't give a fuck about "HD" pixel graphics, only hipsters would give a fuck about that. If a normalfag wanted to play NES games they would just play it using any hookup they have available even RF.

>> No.3378870

>>3378828
What >>3378847 said. We've had NES-on-chips for like two decades. They cost <$1 a pop if you do a large enough order. An ARM or AVR chip to handle the graphics output would be within the same price range.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System_hardware_clone#Hardware_and_software_compatibility

>> No.3378871

>>3378847
>Also, you're totally undervaluing the cost of software development; writing an emulator is crazy expensive and unreliable.
Software already exists. 3DS is ARM based and has virtual console games. 3DS also has a convenient menu to select and play games from. VC also has the ability to save and resume at any point during a game and game manuals and information included. 3DS is also a portable by design so the hardware was already optimized for low power usage.

I'm not saying the thing is a 3DS but the 3DS certainly has a lot of desirable traits that would make it perfect for this purpose.

>> No.3378909

>>3378871
Whilst plausible, I still think it's off the mark for a few reasons:
- VC runs on top of the 3DS OS, not just the bare metal, meaning that you have a much larger software stack to deal with and which may also somewhat dictate components required. It would be harder to work down to cost from VC/3DS than to work upwards from nothing
- Fot a device with a fixed number of games and no method of update, why would a 3DS chipset (and software) be better than a _really_ cheap ASIC? It doesn't make commercial sense. If Nintendo wanted to make a "VC Box", then you'd be absolutely right in packaging the 3DS chipset, but the NES mini has to be seen as nothing more than one point in a long line of one-off consoles like the C64 DTV, Atari Flashback etc. Honestly, I think way too much is being read into this product just because it's Ninty.

>> No.3378970

It's probably just Linux running on some $5 ARM chip.

>> No.3378991

The main selling point of this is that it looks like a tiny NES and has some popular games on it. The quality of the emulation is a very distant third in terms of selling it. The vast majority of buyers will buy for themselves and others based on appearance, name, and lastly the list of games (well, having Mario might bump up game list a smidgen). In terms of emulation quality, most people will have nothing to currently compare it to outside of memories of when they last played NES back in the 90s. They aren't going to complain that the color palette is wrong or that it looks too dark - in fact , most won't even realize it at all.

As long as the thing LOOKS like an NES and has a decently long list of games with Mario thrown in there, it will sell. If it easily hooks up to an HD TV and plays the games without crashing, the overwhelming majority of users won't complain. The biggest targeted group that might complain are rabid Nintendo collectors, but to be fair they'll buy the thing anyway and if it doesn't emulate well they'll just keep using their real hardware.

>> No.3379065

>>3378909
Well the way I see it the 3DS chips are already being mass produced so this would just be adding a few more orders of chips to the production line if anything. Or maybe Nintendo has an excessive amount of chips sitting around and they want to get rid of them. The 3DS has been a massive success, they might also be trying to capitalize on that by reusing the hardware which was already largely designed and tested elsewhere. Using hardware and software which has seen real world testing and is considered "mature" probably means fewer hiccups also. No matter what direction they choose to go they will still need a custom menu just for loading the games and apparently the thing will have save points. Since this is Nintendo I would assume they'll also include manuals for the games so that means either paper manuals or there's something else going on.

Reusing the hardware does also allow them to reuse the system for other compilations down the line. Change the case and add a new set of games and you have an SNES Mini or whatever.

>> No.3379072

Well whatever this thing is I look forward to the teardown videos and things that come from it. Hopefully it has some interesting hacks.

>> No.3379179

Nintendo's conference room:
>ok, we are going to use this ARM chip that's perfectly capable of running a NES emulator and costs $1 in bulk
>WAITO A SECONDU! ROOK AT THIS INTAANETTO FORUMU!
>wew lad, those people would enjoy us teasing the NX that's coming out in a few months by using it's hardware in the nes classic edition
>YESSU and it will only costs us 30 times more to produce it! imagine their faces when someone unscrews the case and shows to other neogaffers how we put our latest hardware inside of it just to tease them!
>that'll change everything, it will make us millions!

>> No.3379245

>>3377553
Those SNES pads where EU too. I got one and a USB adaptor, gonna get a nes one too

>> No.3379252

>>3377897
>(potable) NX hardware
Not even confirmed to be portable yet.

And Wii u didn't even sell well enough to have millions of complaints

>> No.3379340

>>3378253
Rondo Of Blood.
>>3378294
DS Emulation was from Nintendo NERD in France.

https://www.nerd.nintendo.com/

They also got Wii ISOs running on the Wii U as well.
>>3378402
No it's emulated, but the emulation is pin point hence why it's using a Cortex A53 for it's CPU.
>>3378521
If it's still using a RP2C02E-0, then it's still real hardware.
>>3378797
The thing is that the NES' PPU can only do composite and when Nintendo CAN do their own NAOC with proper RGB support with a upscaler, that will cost more then using the portable NX hardware using software emulation as thats what the NES Mini is using just to get something NX related this year.
>>3378871
3DS hardware + upscaler = more then portable NX hardware (it can run 1080p but the handheld itself and it's screen run at 540p because of battery life reasons and it's a 1/4 of 1080p).
>>3378970
Nintendo always uses custom software and custom hardware.
>>3378991
No, the main selling point is getting a much higher quality emulator then what the Wii U and 3DS have.

They will spot the color pallet, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QNALuSkLA
>>3379065
A 3DS + upscaler will cost more then using hardware that can not only do 1:1 emulation on the NES, but run naively in 1080p as well.
>>3379179
They will be something to prevent it from being cracked for piracy reasons (manly OS stuff).
>>3379252
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/261503-rumor-dev-tweets-out-prices-of-nintendo-dev-kits

Handheld uses 4GB, Console uses 8GB.

And http://www.vgchartz.com/

The Wii U sold 13.2 million units.

>> No.3379349

>>3379340
>Getting sales numbers from fucking VGChartz of all things instead of Nintendo's Investor Relations

Morning Core Gamer Anon. Did you find the link where Nintendo said they were going to improve the accuracy of their emulator?

>> No.3379597

>>3377173
that's what I thought

>> No.3379606

>>3377556
>this delusion
You are a sad strange little man.

>> No.3379610

>>3378056
Source motherfucker

Back up your shit with a reliable source or shut the fuck up.

>> No.3379613

>>3378205
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>> No.3379616
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3379616

>Wake up, check thread
>The core gamer autist is back

>> No.3379675

Why did Castlevania 2 have to be included over 3?

>> No.3379701

>>3379610
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125

>> No.3379704

>>3379675
because konami, that's why

>> No.3379707

>>3379340
>No, the main selling point is getting a much higher quality emulator then what the Wii U and 3DS have.

Which is why they made a point of it in the ad instead of focusing solely on nostalgia and compatibility with modern displays, right? You could be right and maybe this will be better than VC and all that, but from what they decided to open with, they're definitely targeting the nostalgia audience.

>> No.3379728

>>3379707
They shown that the video is sharp and bright.

If you want a NES on a modern display mod it for RGB using the NESRGB board and use a Framemister.

This is NOT a nostalgic cash grab, Kimishima will not allow it.

>> No.3379735

>>3379728
Why aren't they making a Famicom Mini?

>> No.3379737

>>3379735
Made only for western markets.

>> No.3379743

>>3379737
Why? Did the Japanese get good WiiU Famicom emulators?

>> No.3379749

>>3379743
Japan is a portable market, when there is a console market only 3.2 million Wii Us sold there when only 3 million PS4s have done the same.

Japan's VC should be loaded at the NX's launch so theres no need for a mini Famicom.

>> No.3379757

>>3379749
Being a portable market, Japan has sold over 21 million 3DS units, over 2 million units more than america, and almost twice the number of global units of WiiU sold world wide. The Famicom emualtor on 3DS suffers from the same problems though, and there's more players playing 3DS famicom emulations in Japan than WiiU emulations globally.

Why would only Japan's VC eshop be loaded with games at NX launch and not the US VC eshop? Aren't there more Japanese people complaining about how inaccurate their emulator is when they've sold 3DSs in the country to WiiU's globally at ratio of almost 2:1?

>> No.3379758

So...can the mini play original nes games (as I thought when I saw it for the first time) or is it only the pre installed 30?

>> No.3379761

so, this is like... a plug n play?

>> No.3379762

>>3379758
Only the 30 Greatest of All Time NES games as decided by Nintendo. You don't need anything else. It's a plastic box with nothing other than controller ports, hdmi out and powered by usb.

>> No.3379771

>>3379707
This is not for the nostalgia audience. This machine will have portable NX hardware, the latest techonlogy made by Nintendo

>>3379743
The Wii U emulators are made bad on purpose so Nintendo can make a good one for the NX portable hardware that's inside the NES mini

>>3379761
no, you see, this has NX portable hardware

>>3379762
the "plastic box" contains the latest NX portable hardware with a new and improved NES emulator

>> No.3379780

>>3379757
The NES emulator on the 3DS has wrong aspect rate and off colors (same as the enchanted pallet on the NESRGB board) but theres no lag due to the controls being right on the system itself.

GB, GBC and PCE are fine, Game Gear is excellent due to M2 handling it and GBA runs with native code; SNES on New 3DS however is leaps and bound better them most of that the 3DS had before that due to no lag (controls are built into the system) and it's 8:7 mode.

>> No.3379787

>>3377157
>Is there any trickery going on
Yes. They tricked you into thinking it's not just a famiclone.

>> No.3379804

It's straight emulation, and if the VC is anything to go by expect it to be extremely shitty emulation with the worst color palette choice imaginable.

>> No.3379808

>>3379780
If you hold start while booting a game it loads the correct aspect ratio, but it's still not like the hardware. Why are the japs satisfied with 3DS emulation but the americans aren't?

>> No.3379835

>>3379808
Only for GB & GBC games and 3DS emulation is decent, it's just the Wii U that is bad.

>> No.3379841
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3379841

why couldnt they make a N64 plug n play console? is the one that everyone wants because it cant be emulated properly and it would help to kill the game overprice. If i wanted to play NES games i would emulate, or even more buy a 8 dollars famiclone

>> No.3379849

>>3379841
You know, ever since the N64 emulator came out for the Wii U PC N64 emulation sky rocked in quality.

http://gliden64.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqZcBcsHjys

The thing is that they need the console NX hardware for the N64 plug and play and that thing takes more then 5 volts to run it.

>> No.3379860

>>3379761
Precisely

>> No.3379863

Did the original NES use portable NX technology?

>> No.3379864

>>3379863
No, it ran on a 2A03 chip, ARM chips did not exist in 1983.

>> No.3379868
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3379868

Everyone knows how much effort Nintendo puts to bring us those beatiful old games.

motherfucking jews

>> No.3379874

>>3379868
That was Iwata's Nintendo, Kimishima's Nintendo puts in alot more effort.

Not bringing up the Wii Kirby collection.

>> No.3379914

>>3377518
>(but yes, the output is much nicer than the wiiu's vc)

How do you know?

>> No.3379970

>>3377492
Your wife must prefer the Retron 5 then, huh? Something both her and her son can enjoy together.

>> No.3379980

>>3379780
>no lag due to the controls being right on the system itself
That's not how it works.

>> No.3379982

>>3379728
>This is NOT a nostalgic cash grab
Wow, you're naive

>> No.3379983

>>3379980
The longer the signal has to travel the more lag you get.

>> No.3379984

>>3378797
>ITT: Nobody knows has a clue about mass-produced electronics.
You clearly don't either. Congratulations, you've heard of what a "Nes on a chip" is, that's great kid. But you're trying way too hard to make yourself sound educated.

>> No.3380002

>>3379983
That's not how it works.

>> No.3380010

>>3380002
So you have a way that beats the speed of light?

>> No.3380034

>>3380010
But it's dark inside a 3ds's shell

>> No.3380102

>>3379868
Great port, although it's missing Super Mario World sadly.

>> No.3380106

>>3379701
That's not an official confirmation by Nintendo, retard. It's just a thread comparing the image quality of Paper Mario on the Wii Virtual Console and the Wii U Virtual Console.

>> No.3380107

>>3380002
Yes it is. But the lag is so incredibly minuscule that it makes no difference.

>> No.3380108

>>3380106
Then it goes deeper into the Wii U's VC, they read the whole topic and fixed it with the NES Mini as the N64 needs more powerful hardware to emulate.

>> No.3380116

>>3380108
Where's the proof they read it and made the decision to create the NES Mini based on that thread?

>> No.3380127

The fuck is with that "portable NX hardware" noise, is this guy trying to force a meme? It doesn't even make sense for a fucking plug-and-play.

>> No.3380139

>>3380127
Just some retard playing pretend.

>> No.3380143

>>3379970
She mainly plays mobile games. Our 3 year old is into Skylanders and she plays it with him. She's trying to figure out Disney Infinity but it's a little too advanced for him and she gets frustrated trying to play with him.

>> No.3380436

>>3377406
>neogaf
>literally a higher concentration of faggots than Grindr on gay pride day

stay classy neogaf scum

>> No.3380452

>>3377267
>not aimed at normies

So you really think that the majority (let's say 80%) of Nintendo fans are hardcore enough to notice problems in the emulation? Do you think they hire execs to make money or appease necked bearded autistic man children who discovered a SINE/SAW WAVE was a little off?

Do you actually think they care about this shit. Are you really this lost and in a bubble to think Nintendo cares about such a minor detail that people outside of the scope of their target audience (THEY ARE SELLING TOYS FOR CHILDREN NOT NECK BEARD BUMBLE FUCKS)?

it's for NORMIES. Go drink a glass of water and calm down dude lollllllllllllllllllllllll

>> No.3380461

>>3379841
It will eventually happen if the NES mini is succesful enough to make an SNES mini. Then, its relative success (which would be about the same if they know what they are doing), would get a N64 mini to work.

I would love to buy that, since right now getting it is pretty expensive and the catalogue is not that worth it. How many games would they put in there anyway? 15? 20?

>> No.3380469

>>3379849
Nintendo has proven that they know their shit when it comes to N64 emulation. Even on the Wii it was pretty much great.

>> No.3380496

>>3380469
Well they should, seeing as they made the damn console...

>> No.3380520

>>3380496
Well, it's not the first time that a company fucks up ports or emulation of their own machines due to loss of data or lack of people that worked in that period.

Wii's Virtual Console was a great thing about the last gen and it's a shame that they didn't expand on it later on with deals with Konami, S-E or even Microsoft, but cut a lot of it.

>> No.3380579

I'll buy two or three of these and leave them unopened forever

>> No.3380594

>>3380452
NES aged people are now having children, or have had them for years. This product is marketed to those wanting nostalgia and parents that want to show their kids the way games were back in yee olden times. It definitely isn't being manufactured for the tiny market of NEET neck beards that want perfect emulation. The majority of these will be turned on played for a few days and then cast aside once the owners get a taste of what life was back then.

>> No.3380609

>>3380579
Surely they will appreciate just like all those reprints of issue #1 comics did!

>> No.3380627

>>3380594
exactly. N O R M I E S

>> No.3380767

>>3380010
It's not the speed of light. It's the speed of an electron.

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3380826

>>3379252
spotted the nintoddler

>> No.3380854
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3380854

>>3380102

>Great port
>port

shlomo pls, stay away from /vr/

>> No.3380872

>>3379914
Play Punch Out on the 3DS then on the Wii U, you will understand.
>>3380034
It's not using 3DS hardware as using the 3DS hardware + a 1080p upscaler will cost more to make then the 2DS is to sell.
>>3380127
No meme, the hardware is finished but there is not enough software for a November launch so at least the handheld's chip set is being used on the NES mini to make sure that the emulation is much better then Nintendo's 8th gen hardware.
>>3380139
Nope, that is false.
>>3380452
>So you really think that the majority (let's say 80%) of Nintendo fans are hardcore enough to notice problems in the emulation?
Yes, things like fuzz, darkness and lag that not even a 1MS gaming monitor will fix are very easy to spot.

>Do you think they hire execs to make money or appease necked bearded autistic man children who discovered a SINE/SAW WAVE was a little off?
Most of the gaming market is over 18 and sound was never a issue with Nintendo's emulators (Ufouria sounds the same when running on a real NTSC NES).

>Do you actually think they care about this shit?
Yes, they do.

>Are you really this lost and in a bubble to think Nintendo cares about such a minor detail that people outside of the scope of their target audience (THEY ARE SELLING TOYS FOR CHILDREN NOT NECK BEARD BUMBLE FUCKS)?
The target market in this day of age are adults, when most of Nintendo's games are ok for kids things like fuzz and a dark filter and not minor by any means.

>it's for NORMIES. Go drink a glass of water and calm down dude lollllllllllllllllllllllll
No it is not, if they were trying to aim at normies they will just put in the effort to fix the Wii U's VC.
>>3380469
>>3380496
But the things like GlidN64 put past N64 emulation efforts to shame, in fact the poor quality in the Wii U's emulator is the soul reason why PC N64 emulation sky rocketed in the past year or so.
>>3380594
>>3380627
No it is not, it it was it will have games like Panic Restaurant, Bubble Bobble Part 2 & Little Samson.

>> No.3380876

>>3380872
Haven't played the N64 on the Wii U, but how is it different than Wii's, which was pretty great?

>> No.3380879

>>3380872
>It will have games like Panic Restaurant, Bubble Bobble Part 2 & Little Samson on it.
You know, games that people want but can't get because of their price and lack of any rerelease.

Never mind Dinosaur Peek unless they can clear the rights.

>> No.3380880

>>3380872
>Panic Restaurant, Bubble Bobble Part 2 & Little Samson.
They already announced the list lad, those games aren't there.

>> No.3380885

>>3380880
I know, but to aim this at the normies they are needed on the next set.

>> No.3380887

>As many suspected, the NES Classic Edition doesn't connect to the internet or use external storage devices, so the games it comes with are all you'll be able to play on it, Nintendo confirmed
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendos-nes-returning-with-mini-version-includes/1100-6441801/

Sounds pretty worthless.

>> No.3380895

>>3380887
It is not worthless, this was made because the Wii U's VC is so fucked up that it will be easier to replace it then it is to fix every VC game one by one.

>> No.3380904

>>3380885
>to aim this at the normies they will need to spend money licensing games most people have never even heard of
Great logic.

>> No.3380914

>>3380904
Only The Flintstones Surprise On Dinosaur Peek needs licensing issues (I'm sure WB games will let it happen), the rest is 100% Taito.

>> No.3380931

>>3380914
Taito isn't owned by Nintendo, you fucking retard. They have to give them money if they re-release any of their games. Are you actually so stupid that you think cartoon shows are the only things that can be licensed?

>> No.3380932

>>3380872
You have psychological issues that need to be resolved for the sake of those around you as well as yourself. Seek professional help.

>> No.3380934

>>3380932
I don't know man, maybe the Wii U emulation is so bad it can cause you shell shock

>> No.3380937

>>3380931
No and Taito is owned by SquareEnix.

>> No.3380938

>>3380932
No, you do, it's you that needs help.

>> No.3380945

>>3380937
>Taito is owned by SquareEnix
Everyone knows that already, Sherlock. And that's how licensing works, you fucking moron. It's the reason R-type isn't on the Virtual Console anymore.

>> No.3380948

>>3380937
>No
Wow, such a compelling and well-written argument.

>> No.3380963

>>3380932
I thought the same exact thing, that anon seems completely fucking out of this world batshit insane delusional. Either that or he is the most convincing troll of all time.

>> No.3380968
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>>3380872
What kind of foolishness am I even reading?

Thank you anon, this is all I needed to be able to laugh myself to sleep tonight

>> No.3381000

>>3380945
It just got reuploaded.
>>3380963
I'm not a troll and I'm not delusional, you are.
>>3380968
I'm serious.

>> No.3381039
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3381039

This made me wonder something.
Is it possible for game companies to reproduce old consoles they made if they so felt like it? I know they wont just wondering if they could

>> No.3381045

>>3381039
They would have to recreate the fabrics of the chips and that shit ain't cheap.

>> No.3381049
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>>3380934
Underrated post

>> No.3381316

>>3380872
>No meme, the hardware is finished but there is not enough software for a November launch so at least the handheld's chip set is being used on the NES mini to make sure that the emulation is much better then Nintendo's 8th gen hardware.

Dude this doesn't even make fucking sense. Stop listening to NeoFAG. Why the hell would they use cutting edge technology for a fucking plug-and-play console? It's not even likely to have an OS within it, just a selection screen.

Why? Because it's expensive and wasteful to do what that Gonzo or whatever guy says, it's just ridiculous and makes no sense from a business perspective. I get that you love your boyfriend but use your fucking brain. What you are saying is the equivalent of using modern computer hardware in a god damn Tiger toy handheld. Or killing flies with a tank.

I already had a pretty low opinion of NeoFAG, but you just managed to make it even lower. If all the users are as gullible as you...

>> No.3381419

>>3381316
First off I have a female wife so no homo BS here.

>Why the hell would they use cutting edge technology for a fucking plug-and-play console?
The Cortex A53 is not cutting edge but it's to show how cheap the handheld's SOC chip is at $15 bucks a chip as most of the 3DS' cost was due to it's 3D screen and it's custom 120Hz Pica chip with sprite support, the PowerVR GTX8600 is a much more stander chip and has stuff like 120HZ and sprites built in so hardware is much more off the shelf.

>It's not even likely to have an OS within it, just a selection screen.
It will have a OS but a much more cut back OS to avoid piracy issues later in it's life.

It is not a waste to make a plug and play system with 1:1 emulation, if anything it's a must with some people not knowing how to calibrate a TV to get the most out of it, but there are guides for that.

I am not gullible.

>> No.3381493

>>3381419
>First off I have a female wife so no homo BS here.
>female wife
As opposed to what, a male wife? Are you really this dense or you train for the Olympics?

>The Cortex A53 is not cutting edge but it's to show how cheap the handheld's SOC chip is at $15 bucks a chip as most of the 3DS' cost was due to it's 3D screen and it's custom 120Hz Pica chip with sprite support, the PowerVR GTX8600 is a much more stander chip and has stuff like 120HZ and sprites built in so hardware is much more off the shelf.
Oh wow. Nice copypasta. But you are just parroting this from your boyfriend, you have absolutely no idea of what you are saying. Maybe it works with NeoFAGs, but we aren't gullible and technologically challenged like the people there, sorry. "Portable NX", my ass.

>It will have a OS but a much more cut back OS to avoid piracy issues later in it's life.
To avoid piracy of games that are already pirated to hell and back? Sure, keep the dream going.
And again, Gonzo The Great Fag doesn't count as source of anything but cum in your throat. And you are spitting it every time you open your mouth.
You just sound like one of those kids that claim they have an uncle working at Nintendo in the playground. But instead of your uncle, it's the love of your life.

>I am not gullible.
Oh wow.

Now seriously. You are either a gullible idiot or a troll. You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. Your boyfriend must be proud. Unless you are Gonzo trying to spread your name for recognition in case any of your stupid theories comes true, or a troll trying to discredit him by being as stupid as possible on the chans. Considering it's NeoFAG we are talking about, both are plausible.

There's a reason that site is known as a shithole, you know. You guys make youtube comments sound intelligent by comparison.

>> No.3381521

LOL Al this misinformation, let me set the record straight.

This is not emulation.

Nintendo has restarted production of the ORIGINAL Famicom/NES CPU and PPU. They have made a new PCB design that incorporates an upscaler for compatibility with modern TVs. This is a REAL NES using REAL parts.

>> No.3381558
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>>3381521
Where did you get your information? Because..
> http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/14/12193472/mini-nes-classic-edition-faq-nintendo
and
>http://www.usgamer.net/articles/classic-mini-nes-faq-everything-we-know-about-nintendos-plug-and-play-console

Are saying; "We aren’t discussing technical specifications.". Also, this thing doesn't take carts, or any expansion for that matter. see pic

>> No.3381562
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>>3381558
One more thing; let's remember that this is a *Nintendo* product, if you buy first gen you're a sucker.

>> No.3381585

>>3379864

Why did you even answer that question?

>> No.3381589

The autism in this thread is maximum

>> No.3381638

>>3381521
If this was the case homebrewers will make daughter boards for real NESs to not only get RGB from a first party source but it will make the NESRGB board and NESHDMI board ussless.

Also the NES was built with Composite, unless they made this with a newly made RGB PPU it will be emulated.

>> No.3381660

>>3381585
Because he has autism

>> No.3381674

>>3381660
No I do not.

>> No.3381859

>>3381674
But they say you've got autism right here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040125

>> No.3381943

>>3381859
>Expecting to see their NES Mini topic
>Bring me to not only the same topic that has not seen new posts since May.

You're delusional, seek help.

>> No.3381945

Dear lord this is my first time on this board and it was at a suggestion when /k/was having a similar autistic meltdown over full size 9mm pistols. Someone used /vr/ levels of autism and this thread is solid proof you guys are straight up autistic. Go out and get some sun. Christ you guys edge out /v/ for sheer autism.

>> No.3381946

it's an unhackable ARM box

>> No.3381947

>>3381946
I will be cracked one day.

>> No.3381949

>>3381945
There is no autistic people here.

>> No.3381964

>>3381947
Nintendo knows this so they'll make it unserviceable and non-updatable.

>> No.3381968

>>3377406
>Nintendo's staff read the whole topic and fixed it on their demands

Source?

>> No.3381972

>>3381968
Why the fuck would Nintendo spend money catering to the niche NEET crowd. A group of people that most likely don't have money to buy the mini NES any way? It doesn't take a fucking marketing degree to figure out that there are more potential casual nostalgia buyers in the market that don't give a shit about any of this.

>> No.3381975

>>3381972
Those people are not NEETs, they have lives.

>> No.3381985
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3381985

Wait a minute
Wait a MINUTE

>>3377267
>>3378056
>>3380108
>>3379701
>>3378097

So this guy believes the NES mini will be good, and his source is a NEOgaf thread complaining about the Virtual Console?

He talks a lot about different hardware, talking about what is bad for emulation, and what would be good for it. But how does he know that Nintendo cares about that? How does he know they will be implementing it?

He claims Nintendo staff read that thread, and that they made this in response to that thread?

What makes him think they read the thread? What makes him think the NES mini is in response to the complaints? How does he know that?

I've heard this guy on multiple threads in vr now.

I want to know what makes him so sure that
A. Nintendo staff read that thread
B. They gave a shit
C. The NES mini is a response to Nintendo's poor emulation, and will be good emulation/hardware with low input lag and the such

I'm aware the VC is bad.
I'm aware there is hardware that could do a better job
What makes you think Nintendo gives a shit?

Who the fuck is this guy? I see him everywhere

>>3380116
>>3380116
Pic not in response to the guy, just on the topic of shitty VC

>> No.3381995

>>3381985
He also claims Bubble Bobble 2 is going to be on the mini NES even though it's not on the list of games and there is information out there saying you will not be able to put more games on it.

>> No.3381996

>>3381972
I asked for a source

Are you implying that I'm dumb for asking for a source because I ought to know that there is no source because Nintendo wouldn't do this?

I'm aware it's unlikely, I still want a source for his claims. Or for him to realize he's wrong. on the internet

>> No.3382000

>>3381995
No I did not, I said that it "SHOULD" be on there to aim it at normies.

>> No.3382006

>>3382000
>Because Bubble Bobble 2 is a game every kid played and are nostalgic for as an adult
I'm beginning to think you're a troll on account of your catch phrase "you're delusional seek help" but how do you do it? Do you just let your mind fantasize wildly then present it as fact, making up sources and providing exactly the opposite motivations than might be reasonable? It's like you're so far removed from the real world you don't even know what a casual gamer is and your definition of a "core gamer"requires literal mental illness.

>> No.3382007
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>>3382000
Hey

How do you know the NES mini is being made with good quality emulation in mind? What makes you think that?

Keep in mind that
>people complaining about WiiU VC emulation
>WiiU VC emulation being bad
>there being better emulators out there
>something about chips I don't understand

are not proof or evidence toward Nintendo making the NES mini in response to them, those are just reasons for a better VC solution to exist. Nintendo has shown they don't care about VC-spergs like us.

I'm legitimately curious, because I've seen you around with the same arguments and I just don't get it.

If you're trolling, then you got me. But if you aren't I seriously want to know

>> No.3382017

Is there anonymous voice chat?

Like 4chan but with voice instead of text?

I want to talk this out, this conversation is getting no where
I'm gonna miss church

>> No.3382026

>>3382006
This has nothing to do with nostalgica, it's about "Gee, I sure like to play Bubble Bobble Part 2 but $550 is way too much for 1 game''. Thats what this is about.

In the end, it's you that needs help.
>>3382007
They do care, it's why the NES mini got made.

>> No.3382036
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>>3382026
>it's why the NES mini got made

How.

Do you.

Know that?

How do you know that's why they made the NES mini?
How do you know Nintendo read that thread?
How do you know that they want to make emulation better with the NES mini?

>>3380116
answer this question.

You're ignoring the questions that get to the crux, and only answering individual questions that allow you to avoid the crux. If you don't answer those questions you're a troll. In fact your blatant skimming of them already confirms it why am I WASTING MY TIME

>> No.3382037

>>3382036
People were complainer about the emulation quality on the Wii U, thats all you need to know.

>> No.3382045

>>3382000
>No it is not, it it was it will have games like Panic Restaurant, Bubble Bobble Part 2 & Little Samson.
>it will have games like Panic Restaurant, Bubble Bobble Part 2 & Little Samson.
>it will have

????

>> No.3382048

>>3382045
I never said it will have those games, I just said that to aim this this thing at normies it "NEEDS" to have those games because they cost way to much in their original format.

You're delusional, seek help.

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>>3382037
>that's all you need to know
No it isn't. You seem to be confident that Nintendo has a desire to make the best virtual console/classic game experience possible.
They don't give a shit.
Want proof they don't?
>3DS NES VC pixels are off
>The fucking input lag on the WiiU SNES and N64 VC
>The fucking input lag on the 3DS SNES VC
>The years it took for N64 VC to get to WiiU
>the years it took for SNES VC to get to 3DS
>Still no GBA VC on 3DS
Here's the part where you explain the GBA VC part while ignoring the other complaints.

>people complained about the WiiU emulation
>Nintendo made the NES mini

What evidence links these two events? Hmm?

Whatever. When it comes out in a few months, we shall see if it's input lag is good or not. That's all I give a shit about.

>> No.3382059

>>3382048
the people who care about panic restaraunt and little samson can go get a multicart or a flash cart

NES mini is aimed towards people who have probably never heard of those games

>> No.3382060
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>>3382050

>> No.3382062

>>3382050
Last I check the 3DS did not have any input lag on VC games, only the Wii U has lag.

Anyway, they know it's bad and it will be easier to replace it then it is is fix it game by game.

>> No.3382065

>>3382059
Due to the internet everyone in this day of age has heard of those games.

At least they only know about them because of their high cost.

>> No.3382075

>>3377972
It does look like the cables are short

>> No.3382078

>>3382062
The 3DS has input lag on VC games

>> No.3382083

>>3382078
No it does not, you're delusional, seek help.

>> No.3382090

>>3382062
>they know it's bad
True
>it'll be easier to replace than fix game by game
Probably true

>they care about making it better
Unknown

>>3382083
Looks like I need to perform another test

>> No.3382092

>>3382090
Gaf said nothing about 3DS lag and they tested both the 3DS & Wii U inside and out.

>> No.3382105

>>3382092
1. Gaf could be wrong
2. I specifically am referring to Super Mario World on the 3DS
3. I'm not sure that game was even out when Gaf did their tests
4. I could be wrong

we'll see when I do a test.

>> No.3382108

>>3382105
The GIF I looked at was the Wii U version.

>> No.3382109

>>3382108
Yeah, that was me. I did that.
I haven't tested the 3DS Super Mario World yet.
I've played it, and it felt laggy. I haven't filmed it yet.

So we'll see.

>> No.3382114

>>3382109
Then you're delusional, I played SMW on the New 3DS and I felt no lag.

>> No.3382117

>>3382114
I may be delusional.

Or it's not enough lag for YOU to notice.

We'll see when I film it.

>> No.3382138

>>3381964
Probably this

>> No.3382173

>>3382065
>>3382048
>>3382026
>Normies
>Gee I'd sure like to play Bubble Bobble 2
>to aim this this thing at normies it "NEEDS" to have those games
>everyone in this day of age has heard of those games
See it's things like this that make me think you're just pretending to not even understand what casual gamers are like. They don't want to play expensive games just because they're expensive they want to play popular game and/or games they're nostalgic for.

>> No.3382182

>>3382173
Exactly what makes me think he is trolling. I've played vidya all my life and I was a huge bubble bobble fan, even had the cart. I had no idea there was a bubble bobble 2 until a few years ago. Normies aren't sitting out there saying it better have bubble bobble 2 or else!

>> No.3382396

I wonder how they'll handle the Startropics dipping the manual in water thing.

>> No.3382402

>>3382396
What if they add a manual?

>> No.3382705
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Do I get to post it again?

>> No.3382830

>>3382173
No, people look up games online and see what is good.
>>3382182
I'm not trolling and you not in the NES Mini's market.

>> No.3382834

>>3382705
That will not be the case at all.

>> No.3382848

>>3382705
What Sony Trinitron monitor is that playing F-zero

>> No.3382992

>>3382834
We'll see

>> No.3382996

>>3382705
I think they intentionally darken their vc games to reduce screen burn in. I played Baseball on my bro's hdtv the other day and there was noticeable burn in afterwards from the white pixels. It went away eventually, but I think if we had turned down the brightness that probably wouldn't have happened.

>> No.3383093

>>3382996
No, there is no reason for the dark filter as if that was the case then SNES games will have it as well.

>> No.3383282

>>3382996
Burn in on what? The faggots running Europe have de facto banned plasmas no one makes them.

>> No.3383373
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>>3378173
VC was made so that when a kids parents are shopping for a game for little johnny they end up spending 5 or 10 bucks on a game they used to play. I should know, they got me like that.

You sir are a master level troll. My hats off to you.

>> No.3383429

>>3383373
No, they made VC because they know retro game prices will go up and some of them (Rondo Of Blood) costing around $100 in their original format.

Thats why VC was made.

>> No.3383435

>>3383373
>>3383429
I am also not a troll.

>> No.3383442

>>3383373
>>3383429
The VC was made to continue selling old software with no manufacturing costs.
Think business.

>> No.3383454

>>3383442
Bingo

>> No.3383540

>>3383442
Also for games that cost over $100 in it's original format, you can get that same game for only $5-10 on VC.

>> No.3383556
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3383556

I don't know if that fag is the real Rich or a troll that is only mimicking him, but it's just as annoying and pedantic as the real deal, so i'd like to say something about his faggotry.

He goes to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD of NeoGAF talking about how oh so much better Hombrew is and how shitty is the way Nintendo handles the Virtual Console.

Now, this guy learned by his own hand why the GBA Ambassador 3DS games are slightly blurry, and is exactly because without the blurry filter those games causes BURN IN in the 3DS screen. The faggot experienced it IN HIS OWN FUCKING N3DS.

Now some of the Virtual Console issues are unforgivable, but this asshole's obssesion on the darkness and blurriness of the image got DESTROYED that day, and the guy still continued with his RETARDED complaints.

Holy fuck not even the input lag is that bad, i've spent my whole life playing SMB, SMB3 and the original Castlevania with the original hardware and in the last few days i finished them AGAIN, in both 3DS and Wii U without noticing anything strange. Now, if we're talking about the N64 VC that's another entirely matter, but playing them with the Wii Classic Controller just eliminated any Input lag whatsoever.

Please ignore the motherfucker, he's an incurable autistic faggot that deserves no attention. I mean the asshole almost ruined his 200 € portable for fucks sake and still won't admit hes wrong.

>> No.3383610

>>3383556
I'm not Rich, all I know about the guy is that his daughter not only works for Disney but has stared in major projects of theirs and stared along side Jim Cummings, thats all I know about Rich.

>Playing them with the Wii Classic Controller just eliminated any Input lag whatsoever.
Thanks for the heads up, I will try that.

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>>3383610

I have this hunch about the Nintendo developed VC emulators. You see, both NES and N64 experience less input lag while using a Bluetooth controller such as the Wiimote and its accesories while the experience is less than optimal with the Gamepad wich is connected via WiFi, so i think that NES, SNES and N64 emulators are straight ports with cranked up display resolutions up to 960p (games are uprendered at 480p) and filters to avoid burn in thet weren't on the Wii versions for a simple reason: That console wasn't designed with HD flat screens in mind, while Wii U is. I'm pretty sure they ran lots of tests regarding that issue before applying those blur and darkening filters.

Also, if you are not Rich you're pretty pedant yourself, to the point i'm triggered just by reading your posts, but if now you're telling me you didn't even try any other control method aside of the Gamepad (i think) well... one should experiment before judging don't you think.

As far as i can see, playing with a Wii Classic Controller gives around the exact same Input lag as the Wii VC emulators gave, wich is pretty acceptable by my experience

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>>3383610
Wich btw doesn't mean i'm happy with the final product. I mean the gba VC emulator programmed by M2 has a softening filter that can be desactivated with a simple button, why Nintendo didn't implement that in their emulators it's something that i can't understand, but the games are still perfectly playable and the N64 games have their resolution doubled.

The actual VC have more though behind it that the credit its given for. The DS emulator for example has a 2x resolution option hidden that isn't activated because most games see their framerate affected, wich is a shame because it actually helps A LOT, but it's obvious that the framerate was prioritised.

Of course i hope the Nintendo mini sells gazillions and pushes Nintendo to "fix" their emulators giving the chance get the filters out of way, but saying that the Virtual Console is shit is wrong in my opinion and doesn't take in account the though proccess behind it.

>> No.3383847 [DELETED] 

>>3383820
I see then but SNES do not have a dark filter on them because if it were for burn in issues then the Wii U's SNES VC would of also had it as well.

I have many games on the Wii U's VC (due to owning many Wii VC games made them only $1-2) and I always had no issues with them.

>> No.3383848

>>3383820
>>3383829
I see then but SNES do not have a dark filter on them because if it were for burn in issues then the Wii U's SNES VC would of also had it as well.

I have many games on the Wii U's VC (due to owning many Wii VC games made them only $1-2) and I always had no issues with them

>> No.3383871
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>>3383848
Well, it's not so evident with the SNES one but it has a certain degree of darkening.

>> No.3383874

>>3383871
Compare between this, N3DS and original please?

>> No.3383880

>>3383874
I don't have N3DS, sorry

>> No.3383881

shitty arm box confirmed

>> No.3383891

>>3383880
Then just Wii U vs original hardware then.

>> No.3383892

>>3383556
>GBA Ambassador 3DS games are slightly blurry
But they're not though.

>Wii Classic Controller gives around the exact same Input lag as the Wii VC emulators gave
The Wii Classic Controller Pro and Wii VC games do not have any input lag.

>> No.3383906

I can't wait for all the nostalgia-filled buyers complaining online about how much they suck at these games and alternatively asking why they didn't put duck hunt in the collection.

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>>3383906
>the nostalgia-filled buyers
>implying they will suck at it
>implying the thing won't be bought mostly by underages trying to look cool
>implying they are not the ones who will suck at it
>implying this whole shit is nothing other than a filthy commercial move

it is sad that the world of retro gaming has this release as its most expected event...

>> No.3383927

>>3383892
>But they're not though.
They are, just slightly enough to be confused with bad upscaling. The blurring filter can be supressed via homebrew.

>The Wii Classic Controller Pro and Wii VC games do not have any input lag.
And that's exactly what i meant

>> No.3383940

>>3383915
>it is sad that the world of retro gaming has this release as its most expected event...
But that's how it is. It has Nintendo on its back, not some shitty third party, at least as far as we know. It's only natural for people to be excited.

Also, it does the right thing being a miniaturized version of the original.

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>>3382402
That would be cool.
The Virtual Console versions get around that by including digital versions of the letter in the digital manual, but physicality is more fun.

>> No.3384096

>>3383927
>They are, just slightly enough to be confused with bad upscaling. The blurring filter can be supressed via homebrew.
There's not though. Just hold Start + Select when you boot a GBA game on the 3DS. It will run in 1:1 pixel resolution. Very crisp and sharp visuals.

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>>3377983

>has original hardware
>has setups required by retarded anon to be considered an enthusiast
>can't be assed to pay 120+ for games like Suidoken II, so I bought their modern digital incarnations
>great games like Super Metroid I couldn't find locally and didn't want to support ebay, so I bought it from Nintendo.
>somehow this means I'm not an enthusiast

Okay bro. I mean, I'm okay with the realization that /vr/ is completely insane these days.

>> No.3384104

>>3383940
I like that the controllers will double as classic controllers.
Maybe I'll pick one up for my Wii emulation.

>> No.3384115

>>3377186
No there isn't.

>> No.3384128

>>3384102
Wii u has terrible emulation though, makes nes games look like muddy shit and an almost absurd amount of input lag. I'd literally rather play through any other emulator, even the 3ds.

>> No.3384137

>>3377586
>Much of the details being painted on by hand.

Okay, let me just say, I work for a plastics/silicone injection molding company, and I can assure you nothing is hand painted.

>>3378074
>DE9
That's not a DE9 connector you fucking retard.

>> No.3384148

>>3377972
Extensions will be available, I'm sure. All corded systems have at least third-party extensions available.

>> No.3384171

>>3377897
This is the first complaint I've seen. All NES games on my Wiiu play fine

>> No.3384176

>>3378010
You think the nx is a Nintendo clone console? That's sad

>> No.3384181

>>3377897
>and this went on so much that Nintendo made the NES mini
you have no fucking proof of this
none

>> No.3384182

>>3378097
You really think they're going to spend 1/4 of the retail price on the chips for this? LOL

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>2011+5
>buying ROMs

>> No.3384324

>>3384128

I get you anon. That said that only goes for NES games. Maybe N64 games.

>> No.3384325

>>3384171
They play fine imo(I guess I have a great TV, because my input lag is extremely minimal and you can barely tell. Only when side by side)

...but they look like shit. Not to be a graphics whore but good lord the colors are completely fucked.

>> No.3384481 [DELETED] 

>>3384218
Go back to >>>/v/ son, they miss you there. You won't be distracted by disgusting people that buy games or play games. They even made threads about Undertale Overwatch, and the latest casual AAA releases just for you!

>> No.3384486 [DELETED] 

>>3384218
This famalam

Why don't people just buy a Raspberry Pi? This is nigger tier tech - a tasteless cash grab, seriously.

>> No.3384492 [DELETED] 

>>3384481

Don't bother replying.

>> No.3385296 [DELETED] 

All I know is that the NES doesn't want me to talk to it or its son ever again.

>> No.3385481

this will just be a shiggy overpriced P&P that people are hype for and will buy up because it's NINTENDO. This is aimed at the same market Poke' Go is.

>> No.3385543

>>3377983
>Emulation with a CRT monitor setup
Speaking of this, anyone know where can I buy a VGA to SCART cable that lets me use my PC on my CRT via Soft15khz/crt_emudriver/SCART-to-component transcoder? I want to be prepared for when Sonic Mania comes out.

>> No.3385550

>>3378173
>>3377267
What wrong with the Wii U emulators?

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>>3385296

>> No.3385734

Who else can't wait for next year when they release the SNES Mini?

>> No.3385745

>>3377157

It's just a gimmick to trick normies into spending 60 dollars on an emulator and some roms.

>> No.3385781

you do know a used wii is less than 60 bucks, you could plug the $10 controller into a wiimote and have a superior solution with multiple video output options. the nes mini appears to be hdmi only? yuck. everyone's normie is showing posting about this turd.

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>>3385734
youre ten years late.

>> No.3385923

It will obviously have a hdmi port, so 1080p and even 2160p is the norm.

>> No.3385986

>>3378871
>Software already exists.
If:
1. The emulator is actually good
2. The emulator code is read able
3. The emulator code can actually be ported to a foreign architecture
4. Said emulator code can actually fit on a small SoC, with barely any space
5. Said emulators can accept raw SoC data in weird formats