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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD, DEMON DANCE CLUB EDITION - Last thread >>3369857

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/GnWMDhg0

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Doom download: https://yadi.sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

COMMUNITY PROJECT
Make a Boom-compatible E1-themed Ultimate Doom map.
Status: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/3019509

Let's make proper OPs since now on together!

>> No.3374549

===NEWS===

[07-18] Anon mod release: Green Snek >>3371332
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nk49nzw50uje53s/Green%20Snek.pk3?dl=0

[07-18] Anon mod release: Behr's 2016 Color Trends palette >>3369936
http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/DlMdqClj/file.html
http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/RzdAB0Pi/file.html

[07-17] Anon mod update: Smooth Doom Weapons Only >>3368842
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trk7yt4v9egtrnv/SmoothDoom-WeaponsOnly.pk3
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By8mA3D0CACmQzZOa0RaMXd2YzA

[07-16] Anon map release: TerrorTomb >>3365964
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vucmubygevbuzfe/TerrorTomb.wad

[07-16] Anon map WIP: Processing Facility >>3364032
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hu8t4389gm0byd1/Episode+1.wad

[07-15] Anon mod release: Batty >>3363190
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r33b58k999qtvmo/Batty.pk3?dl=0

[07-14] Brutal Doom Monsters Only 20b
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qqjmegwi5q17elp/bdmonsters20b.pk3

[07-12] Anon mod release: Fluffy >>3355450
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hm07qpgtjujhy8/Fluffy.pk3?dl=0

[07-11] Anon mod release: Mai Shiranui skin (NSFW) >>3352872
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t200a5j4tnpmy45/MaiS.wad

[07-11] Anon map update: Leaden Skies >>3351941
https://a.pomf.cat/bewzzk.zip

[07-11] Anon maps release: Server Warehouse and Processing Plant >>3351874
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4lvn9tnyfkp7d1y/Earth_65.wad

[07-11] Anon map release: Windows 98 Maze >>3351061
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8i7e8jivtkcqctd/WIN98MAZE.pk3

[07-10] Anon mod release: Doom 64 HUD >>3351004
http://www.mediafire.com/download/i8kymz4085odma2/D64HUD.pk3

[07-10] Anon mod release: Barless Classic HUD >>3350952
https://mega.nz/#!s5lQ3IqT!nHjOfTsyXIAY9DxEJHMVXFaYAHv2enDGTKXMQo7m7qE

[07-10] DUMP 3 weapons test build >>3350482
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0jyxfwmbdvuzeb1/DUMP-3-weapons-test0.pk3?dl=1

[07-10] Demon Gate, ripped by Anon >>3350363
http://www.mediafire.com/download/78x1bul778zepzn/demgate.iso

===

TO SUBMIT NEWS REPLY/BACKLINK TO THIS POST.

>> No.3374558

is Blade of Agony ever going to be released?

>> No.3374571

>>3374558
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47801

The projected release date is supposedly August 1st, but this is Tormentor we're talking about so who knows.

>> No.3374623
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Any cool HUDs and other general improvement WADs for Heretic? Can't seem to find much good stuff.

>> No.3374646
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>>3374512
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/89223-r-i-p-doom-on-dosbox/

Do you really need to ask?

>> No.3374658
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3374658

twitter messages go from bottom to top

>> No.3374669

>>3374658
He's working on a film with a budget over 1,000,000 dollars.

It's a porno.

>> No.3374670

>>3374669
>It's a porno.

Will it have space pirates in it?

>> No.3374673
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3374673

PUNCH THE MIRRORS IM MAD AT MYSELF

>> No.3374678

>>3374658

kids these days read mangas from right to left but they have a hard time how to read tweets

it's a bit sad that you need to point it out but hey

>> No.3374681

>>3374670
It'll have loads of booty.

>> No.3374682
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>>3374658

>> No.3374735

>>3374682
I like the part where this image is years old :^)

>> No.3374741
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3374741

>>3374681
Oh you

>> No.3374742

I like Doom 64 more than classic Doom.

>> No.3374745

>>3374742
Why?

>> No.3374749

>>3374745
good

>> No.3374750 [DELETED] 
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3374750

Doom babbies. Pic related.

>> No.3374751

>>3374742
You're goddamn entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. You handsome hunk.

>> No.3374756

>>3374749
Not an argument

>> No.3374762

>>3374658
>>3374735

In the time it's taken Space Pirate to have one update:

- Kegan made another full mod and rebooted GMOTA
- DUMP started and had three iterations
- We've had two Cacoward write-ups
- Demonsteele got a cacoward, added an extra character
- Samsara resumed development
- BestEver was started and then shut down
- Zandronum has had two releases
- ZDoom has implemented Doomscript
- Eric was still unable to cure his immense faggotry
- The IGMC had two iterations
- Strife and Powerslave have been remastered and re-released
- GLOOME started and died
- GZDoomGPL started
- Doom 4 was properly revealed and then released
- Reelism got updated
- Your dad was finally found after his years of running away from you and your family

>> No.3374771

>>3374658
marty's moved on to rl issues, space pirates' ded

>> No.3374789
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3374789

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=52889&p=926520#p926520

fug

my dreams of good zdoom videos are slightly discouraged.

>> No.3374808

>>3374762
The fuck
Doomscript hasn't been implemented yet

>> No.3374813

>>3374742
best opinion ITT

>> No.3374817
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3374817

I think I cut off enough sawblades and knives to take it down from Trapperkeeper Scribble to Edgy.

Fancy lighting with shape clarity at this size and colour limit is stupid tricky.

>> No.3374819

Guys, I want to have fun. What should I do ?

>> No.3374820

>>3374819
no

no fun allowed

>> No.3374823

>>3374819
go outside dude there are some cool bugs out there

>> No.3374824

>>3374819
Spend the rest of the day adjusting a source port's settings.

>> No.3374825

>>3374742
Doom 64 had very good atmosphere & level design, but I didn't like the monster designs or the weapon animations.

>> No.3374828

>>3374824
this is an investment, it allows me to have fun tomorrow

>> No.3374830

>>3374819
Load a slaughtermap with brutal doom and russian overkill and see how long you can go before yout computer shits the bed.

>> No.3374842

>>3374789

prboom-plus wins again

>> No.3374846

>>3374842
I've heard of PRboom's video rendering abilities but I haven't been able to find them

it's some command line bs I assume

>> No.3374850

>>3374789

of fucking course this gets [No]'d

>> No.3374865

>>3374789
>>3374850
Dolphin can do it, I don't see why they can't

>> No.3374875

is there any aspect of the original doom graf zahl *doesn't* hate
last i checked, he despises its engine, its graphic style, its mapping tricks, and its sequel

>> No.3374876

>>3374865
he said in the thread dude

The library dependencies is IMO the main reason why it's not likely to happen. In the abstract, the feature probably makes more sense for ZDoom than for PrBoom+, since ZDoom demos are much less likely to remain compatible with future versions of the engine it can be simpler to turn them to videos and have something that will just work.

But adding the feature to PrBoom+ required adding dependencies to libraries that are used only for this niche feature.

tl;dr have to add a lot of shit to it that bloats the program just for one feature that few people want

>> No.3374897

>Finally start UV pistol-starting the games.
>Get to Tricks and Traps.

Oh, so that's why people hate this place.

>> No.3374910 [DELETED] 

>tfw SSG encourages unfun map design

>> No.3374914

>>3374897
I believe Doom 2 specifically is less friendly with pistol starts than Doom 1.

episode 4 notwithstanding

>> No.3374927

>>3374914
E4M2 is one of the few cases where the map can actually be easier to pistol start than to play continuously, though.

>> No.3374930

https://my.mixtape.moe/ngylzz.webm

I WAS JUST TESTING OUT OPTIMIZATION SETTINGS
I DIDN'T WANT TO FUCKING SUMMON AZATHOTH

(If you wear headphones, turn down the volume)

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>>3374930
YOU FOOL
NOW WE'RE ALL DOOMED

>> No.3374935

>>3374930
waht the fuck

what did you fucking DO

>> No.3374945
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>>3374930
Reminds me when I was playing with console commands in Colorful Hell and summoned the hornets

>Never again

>> No.3374947

Come the fuck on, did you think I was trolling or something, I was serious.

The problem is that people are compelled to put the super shotgun in the maps, and to balance that out they'll use more of the beefier enemies like mancubi, arachnotrons and barons.

That tends to make the gameplay too monotonous, when you just keep drilling through a wall of hp after a wall of hp with the super shotgun dance. Sometimes they even expect you to kill casual non-boss cyberdemons with it. Even a lot of well-acclaimed wads make the player spend numbing amounts of time doing nothing but supershotgunning mancubi or barons or some shit.

The chaingun is too weak for pretty much anything outside Doom 1 too, there's so many enemies with lots of hp that'll take a long time to kill them with it.

>> No.3374949
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>>3374876
Do they need libraries to save it raw without encoding?
Can't they just have it saves a bunch of JPGs or PNGs into a folder?
The point IMO is to capture it flawlessly. Let something else do the video encoding and compression. I know that's not great if you have limited hard drive space but oh well.

Retard here, btw.

>>3374930
Why is it so damn loud

>> No.3374950

>tfw actually interested in making a weapon mod because an upcoming Kamen Rider is literally based on shooters
Welp I guess I know what I need to learn how to do in the next two months

>> No.3374951

>>3374950
ganbatte

>> No.3374953

>>3374742
I don't share this opinion, but I find the guns in Doom64 more satisfying to use than the ones in the original doom and the sequel.

>> No.3374957

>>3374951
If I get gud enough using the weapon'll obscure half the screen because of a gaudy emo hairdo built into the helmet

>> No.3374958

>>3374930
IA IA
HE COMES

IA IA

>> No.3374962
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>>3374957
Of course my image is eaten

>> No.3374963

>>3374953
It's the sounds. Doom's weapon sounds(with the exception of the SSG) feel weak when compared to pretty much every shooter that came after it(Duke Nukem, Blood, Quake).

>> No.3374967

>>3374950
ask wildweazel

>> No.3374974

>>3374949
If you didn't mind it being incredibly slow I suppose it could, it would just need to be limited to 35fps and screenshot advance frame screenshot advance frame etc. I'm pretty sure your HDD will wear out making thousands upon thousands of files if you're going to make many videos with this feature.

I don't see Graf going for such a shitty half-baked implementation of video dumping though.

>> No.3374975

>>3374930
you gonna need another 8-track there dude

>> No.3374976

>>3374930
What mod?

>> No.3374983

>>3374963
Especially the rocket launcher.
Man, Doom's rocket launcher sounds wet and flaccid.

>> No.3374994
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3374994

Just bought this big boxed for 49 cents
Worth playing or not?

>> No.3375004

>>3374976

TC I'm working on. It's about being a pirate in space.

>>3374994

For 49 cents? Well, check and see if it installs or not. If so, give it a run. It's bad, but it's worth a lark.

>> No.3375007

>>3374910
>SSG encourages unfun map design

If you don't like it, just don't put one in your map.

>> No.3375010

>>3375004
I have a 98se PC with a real 3DFX card and sound blaster

>> No.3375020
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Ladies and gentlemen, the most anti-climatic boss fight.

Explanation: BD's Starterpack has a script that forces fall damage on the player AND monsters. It doesn't take into account the size of the actor however and, of course, that boss is HUGE, so he was never meant to leave the ground during the fight. The modded Gauss cannon launched him into the air for some reason, and the fall killed him. ayy lmao

>> No.3375026

>>3375020
>BD's Starterpack has a script that forces fall damage on the player AND monsters
>fall damage on monsters

literally why

>> No.3375032

>>3375026
muh realism

>> No.3375036

>>3375020
exploding knees, i guess

>>3375026
so that you can kick enemies off building in cool looking city maps?

>> No.3375037

>>3375026
To expand on the list of viable tactics.

>> No.3375038
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>> No.3375041
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>>3375020

>> No.3375043

>>3375038
[YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS TO COMPLY]

>> No.3375047
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>have oblige make a map pack

>map03

>over 1000 fucking monsters

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>>3375047
Excellent

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>>3374974
I see.

I was actually thinking of coding something up myself, so I'm just asking some basic questions.

It being slow I don't have a problem with, because the idea is we're trading speed for video integrity. Obviously fast is better than slow if you don't have to trade, but whatever.

I assume dumping into an AVI would be better for the HD and speed than saving individual files?

The one thing I don't get is, why does it have to be tied to the tics? If I'm doing it for GZDoom, there's some code that draws or buffers the frames with openGL. I just need to get those into a file, right?

The trick IMO would be figuring out
1. Which frames to grab to make a 60fps video. You can't just grab all the frames, because the framerate fluctuates. If you grabbed them all and stuck them into a 60fps video, you'd have speed fluctuations, right?

2. Stopping or slowing the game. Saving these frames to a file will undoubtedly take processor time which will mean that, unless you slow or stop the game, you'll get frameskips. So you have to have a way to control the flow of the game.
DOOM runs on tics, and there's 35 tics a second. But GZDoom can render at higher fps. I'm not sure how it all works, but it's key to get GZDoom to advance enough time for 1 frame, save the frame, repeat.

>> No.3375060

Is there a weapon mod that is basically the regular doom weapons but improved?

>> No.3375062

>>3374762
>Eric was still unable to cure his immense faggotry
What's the matter, did Eric 5-0 you in a duel?
:^)

>> No.3375070

>>3374762

>Powerslave have been remastered and re-released

what are you talking about, it hasn't been re-released

>> No.3375073

>>3375020

>BD's Starterpack has a script that forces fall damage on the player AND monsters

It's the "REAL" IoS fight all over again.

BRAVO MARCOS
R
A
V
O

>> No.3375074

So there's a mod that's just the brutal doom monsters, and NOT the weapons or player abilities.

Is there a mod that's JUST the weapons, and not the monsters?

>> No.3375078

>>3375070
yes it was

nightdive took it down shortly after

>> No.3375079

>>3375037
that doesn't sound like a viable tactic

sounds like a feature that would be cool only in very specific situations

>> No.3375080

>>3375078

saying that something was "re-released" implies that you can purchase it

>> No.3375084

>>3375080
saying that something was "re-released" says that it was released again

>> No.3375087

>>3375052

Too bad it's all trash like imps and such, so there's no challenge outside ammo management.

>> No.3375089

Is modding Doom as clunky as modding Quake I?
QuakeC was a mistake and Carmack is right to be ashamed of the engine's code written in QC.

In related news, I made the nailgun and super nailgun fire similarly to the main and alt fires from Devil Daggers

>> No.3375093

>>3375060
Smooth Doom

Also I guess DoomRLA in a way.

>> No.3375095

ALL RIGHT LADS
A little over half of the year has passed, so now's as good a time as any to start making mid-game bets.
Keeping in mind that we still have another half of the year to go, what is your bet for Cacowards for this year?

Nominate:
- Best maps
- Best gameplay
- Best multiplayer lol
- Best joke
- Best new mapper(s)

What are your votes?

>> No.3375096

Is there a way to customize the screen resolution on the display video options in GZdoom?

>> No.3375102

>>3375095

>- Best joke

Best-Ever

>> No.3375103

>>3375095
>Best maps
Ancient Aliens and JPCP are the obvious ones.

>Best gameplay
Doom 4 Doom is also the obvious one

>Best multiplayer
lol

>Best joke
Jenova

>Best new mapper(s)
Either Toooooasty or Supersunfish from JPCP or the DUMP participants

Honestly this week is pretty straightforward. I doubt there'll be as much buzz as last year, since the obvious winners for the categories that matter are already out.

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>>3375102
fucking savage

>> No.3375106

>>3375095
jpcp for best maps
guncaster or d4d for best gameplay

some mention of dump for the newcomer categories

>> No.3375108

>>3375103
>Honestly this week is pretty straightforward
>this week
Fuck I meant to say this YEAR.

>> No.3375110

>>3375095
>Best maps
Maybe Dump 1, Dump 2 has some increidbly low quality points (i know you can complete it without beating every map but still...)
>Best gameplay
Legendoom
>Best multiplayer
Sue me for all you want, but a class based modification for Megaman 8-bit deathmatch is fun as fuck and its the only form of pvp zandronum has that keeps getting updated.

And maybe Internal Conflict, this thing might make a return soon, but i'm sure it doesn't count since its not a new mod (i think its from the skulltag era, lmao).
>Best joke
Me because of above
>Best new mapper(s)
Probably the guy making The Ultimate Doom 2 (he isn't exactly new but damn, TUD2 looks amazing). And some dudes that made maps for the DUMPs

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>>3374670
i don't know about pirates, but it'll probably have more than a couple of TUBES

>> No.3375116

Is Golden Souls 2 ever going to be done?

>> No.3375117
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What do I do here? I got the green key, but there's no switch to make any stairs raise up. E1m6

>> No.3375118

>>3375095
>Nominate:
>- Best maps
nova, jpcp, some unknown piece of shit like ekatanne
>- Best gameplay
DooM, brutal or non
>- Best multiplayer
reelism, if kinsie finally put in some goddamn netcode
>- Best joke
mayhem mansion
>- Best new mapper(s)
mark still stands but that may change

>> No.3375126

>>3375118
even if mark was that good, he's hardly a "new" mapper
plus he's said that he doesn't want the starterpack to win a caco, so

>> No.3375136

>>3374762

I'm not counting GMOTA rebooted until I actually finish up said reboot, at this point the mod is in the same dangerous state that the space pirate is in.

>> No.3375140

>>3375126
oh, well, the dude who did those tnt redux maps, Crunchynut44, sincity2100, the hexenmapper,

>> No.3375141

>>3375136
don't you fucking dare let it die, you glorious winged quad-cocked faggot

i'm pushing you on and yelling encouraging things followed by various synonyms of "nigger"

>> No.3375143

>>3375136
Don't give up, dude. It might look hard, but keep going.
I don't even know what GMOTA is but no mod deserves to die out.

>> No.3375149

>>3375141
>>3375143

I ain't gonna let it die, I'm just sayin it's not in a great place right now, and neither am I.

If you have to choose between like, passing kidney stones while standing barefoot on lego bricks, or working at a walmart, take the kidney stones every time. It'll hurt far less, I promise

>> No.3375152

>>3375060

Parkour. It adds a dash maneuver and walljumping, but those are totally optional. Otherwise, the weapons are pretty much like Doom, since its a mutator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anZwm9wA0dc

>> No.3375156

>>3375102
So what's Best Ever now? Is it just a WAD hosting service?

Also, is Painkiller the best choice for multiplayer servers?

>> No.3375157

>>3375152

The weapons are totally different from vanilla you goober. The pistol has reloads, there's dual wielding and like, every weapon is better.

>> No.3375163

>>3375156
Best-ever is dead, now, and it was a zandronum hosting service for FREE, it was easy and painless for anybody who called themselves a zandornum modder.
TSPG-Painkiller is more or less the same but not as good.

>> No.3375180
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>>3375163
>>3375156
>>3375103
>>3375102
>he's a Jenova
>on the internet
>on a Doom message board
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he deletes servers he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he deletes servers he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends

>> No.3375182
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3375182

Working on circular rooms is pretty hellish. I kinda wish there was way to extrude like in 3d-modeling.

Oh well. I need to figure out this room more... Maybe I should just wipe lot of it and make something cooler.

>> No.3375187

>>3375180
amazing

>> No.3375206

>>3375117

There's a switch you're missing, but I forget which one. Check the building in the center of graveyard carefully, outside and inside.

>> No.3375216
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3375216

So are the Acolytes the Combine of the Doom universe?

>> No.3375219
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>>3375060
>>3375157
>I need doom weapons but better
>This mod is too better!

Well shit I was going to suggest Stylemod as well, but that's probably going to twist your knickers too.

>> No.3375220

>>3375216

>a non-doom game that isn't named wolfenstein
>being apart of the doom universe

>> No.3375229

>>3375216
>>3375220
yeah if it's a non-doom game then it's apart of the doom universe

>> No.3375231

>>3375220
What is Commander Keen for one hundred, Alex?

>> No.3375240

>>3375060
Polished Skull

https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87

>> No.3375242
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3375242

Are there any good sourceports for the first Dark Forces game? Not a big fan of playing it on DOSbox, especially if something more practical is available.

>> No.3375243

>>3375229

How about Doomguy being in Q3A?

>> No.3375245

>>3375243
That's a Non-Quake game in a non-canon Quake game, not a Non-Doom game in a Doom game.

>> No.3375259
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3375259

How did they expect me to go through without the alarm going off

>> No.3375264

>>3375259
What is happening in that screenshot

>> No.3375269
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3375269

Also what does Buddha mode do?

>> No.3375278

>>3375259

You're supposed to trigger the alarm. Strife's stealth elements are very, VERY light.

>>3375269

Keeps you from dying, but you still take damage until you're at 1 health. Meant for testing damage without any risk of dying.

>> No.3375283

>>3374321
Using MBF Grenade bouncers is having the same issue, there doesn't seem to be any flags that fix this either, I'm guessing this is an actual bug with (G)ZDoom?

>> No.3375292

>>3374930
Oh cool, what's the weapon sprite on the left from?

>> No.3375294

>>3375259
What the fuck is going on there? Are you playing in stereoscopic 3D or something?

>> No.3375295

>>3375292
Clarification, I mean the one shown at the start of the video that shoots the green slicers.

>> No.3375298

>>3375292
It's the Autoblow 4000

>> No.3375309
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3375309

>>3375292

It's an edit of a railgun by zrrion the insect and Uboa.

>> No.3375312

>>3374658
Honestly at this point he might as well quit, its getting sad.

>> No.3375318
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3375318

Just stumbled across this cool widget, anyone looking to make some retro sound effects for modding purposes will love this: http://www.bfxr.net/

Just keep hitting randomize to see how many sounds this thing can cook up

>> No.3375320
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3375320

there's blood, guts and asses all around me. Man times are changing.

>> No.3375329 [DELETED] 

HDoom dev confirmed for pedo

http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/147719921457

>> No.3375332 [DELETED] 

>>3375329
That's a shame.
As long as that doesn't get in HDoom.

>> No.3375334 [DELETED] 

>>3375329
are you even trying

>> No.3375335 [DELETED] 

>>3375329

This is the most low-tier bait it's not even funny.

>> No.3375336 [DELETED] 

>>3375329
Oh no, it's a skimpy anime girl.

Ohhhhh nooooooooo

>> No.3375337 [DELETED] 

>>3375329

i'm not sure if you're joking or trying to start shit

>> No.3375339 [DELETED] 

>>3375329
I'd prefer this over those new artstyles he's using.

>> No.3375340 [DELETED] 

>>3375334
Any response at all means it was successful.

>> No.3375347

>>3375231
I never felt it should be canon to Doom or Wolfenstein, I seriously prefer all three stay separate.

>> No.3375348

>>3375216
They're more or less the same thing

>> No.3375351

>>3375348
Explain how they're more or less the same thing.

>> No.3375352

Kaboom.

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>> No.3375363

>>3375352

Sploosh.

>> No.3375364

I will still reiterate that I hate the new Hdoom artstyle.

>> No.3375365

>>3375352

Click. Clack. Click.

>> No.3375367

>>3375364
old cyberdemoness best cyberdemoness

>> No.3375368

>>3375363
Vaboom.

>> No.3375372

>>3375351
Now, bear with me, because I'm not big into Half-life lore, but from what I remember:
>The combine soldier/metrocops were humans recruits of the the combine alien race who were mechanically/genetically(?) enhanced, just like the Order's acolytes.
>They follow orders from an alien race(the combine/the alien spectres).
>They rule over humans with an iron fist, in an oppressive, fascist regime, and the treat them more like cattle than actual citizens with rights

I always drew these parallels between the two. Who knows, maybe Gaben got some inspiration from Strife. Or it could just be coincidence.

>> No.3375375
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>>3375352
>>3375363
>>3375365
>>3375368
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>> No.3375378

>>3375372

Those parallels are fairly common sci-fi tropes, so it's not very difficult to believe that the similarities are just a coincidence.

>> No.3375381

>>3375364

Yeah, it's absolutely disgusting.

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>> No.3375390
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>>3375364
I love the H-Mancubus though

>> No.3375391

wait hdoom's artstyle changed?
le what

>> No.3375396

>>3375364
Mystic's new imp is the worst thing ever.

>> No.3375397

>tfw you've wasted a shitload of money on a new GPU + D44M and now all you want to do is play classic

Guess video games aren't for me anymore

>> No.3375403
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3375403

buddy dacote’s dead
undead undead undead

>> No.3375404

>>3375397
at least you're future-proofed for gzdoom

>> No.3375405

>>3375391
http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/145512071687/plantpenetrator-decided-to-redo-the-imp-tan-cg

Top is new style, bottom is old one.

The new style is so bad. I hate those painted nails and those sphere tits.

>> No.3375408

>>3375397

Can you run nuts.wad on GZDoom at a constant 60FPS?

>> No.3375409

>>3374673
What is this, Zharkov goes to the store? Where's the rest of your arm?

>> No.3375410

>>3375405

RIP Mystical, succumbed to THICC syndrome and threw everything out the window for over-exaggerated cartooniness

>> No.3375413

>>3375410
>succumbed to THICC syndrome

You can draw THICC without a shit style.

>> No.3375414

>>3375309
Thanks!

>> No.3375415

>>3375149
>working at a walmart
I feel ya man. Fuck inventory.

>> No.3375416

>>3375413
>>3375410
>>3375405

You think that's bad, take a look at the redone titlescreen.

http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/125524224712/plantpenetrator-hdoom-title-screen-comparison

Those eyes fucking terrify me.

>> No.3375417

Yeah I thought his old was too vanilla, but I prefer his old style to this one.

>> No.3375419

>>3375416
WOW

I can understand someone thinking the first post was an improvement, it isn't but I can understand, but this.

Wow.

>> No.3375420

>>3375405

Wow. I haven't got a look at the new art until just yet and assumed people were probably exaggerating, but that looks terrible compared to the old art.

>> No.3375424
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3375424

>>3375419
>>3375420

>> No.3375434

>>3375417
>Yeah I thought his old was too vanilla

What would have changed in his old style?

Futa demons and you play as Crash?

>> No.3375436
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3375436

>>3375416
>>3375405
Well, H-Doom is ruined now, I guess that's that.

>> No.3375439

>>3375436
I don't think this will affect the sprites though so it's not completely ruined.

They want to make some sort of VN in it though and it will use that style so you can be sure I will not touch that portion of the mod.

>> No.3375443

>>3375436
>>3375416
>>3375405
You guys could try giving feedback. Like, directly to them. So they know the feelings of the fans.
I agree with you guys, but you shouldn't act like it's completely ruined when it isn't even done yet.

>> No.3375445

>>3375443
>implying Mike and Mystical will listen
Anon. Please. They're both ideas-guy tier assholes that can't focus on one thing, let alone finish anything they start

>> No.3375448

>>3375439

>They want to make some sort of VN in it though and it will use that style so you can be sure I will not touch that portion of the mod.

Too bad the VN was the part I was more interested in.

>> No.3375449

>>3375445
Better to give it a shot rather than just sit around because of what MIGHT happen.

>> No.3375450

>>3375443
>implying they would listen

Like some Anon said in a previous thread, it's just the artist falling in love with a new completely disgusting art style. I'm pretty sure nobody asked for this and he just changed his style because he liked that new style.

>> No.3375452

>>3375434
No.

They look too human

>> No.3375454

>>3375443
>You guys could try giving feedback.
I dunno about the others, but that's exactly what we're doing.

>> No.3375457

>>3375454
Think he means on tumblr

you know

where the guy can hear

>> No.3375458

>>3375443
alright i told them both we were talking about it here but i didn't tell mystic we didn't like it because i figured he just wouldn't open it and assume it's 4chan bitching, even though that's near exclusively the playerbase.

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3375459

>>3375416
Isn't that title screen the old one? Why did he change it back to that?

>>3375405
Please no.

>>3375443
Don't they read the Doom Thread?

>>3375452
When will this Too Human meme end? Its been going on for months now, ever since the Archvile preview (pic related)

>> No.3375461

>>3375458
>i figured he just wouldn't open it and assume it's 4chan bitching, even though that's near exclusively the playerbase.
I have to wonder, outside of some memer posting Hdoom to Romeros twitter one time, does anyone else in the doom community acknowledge or know about this mod

>> No.3375463

>>3375461

HDoom was by a large margin the most downloaded mod on Best-Ever, so probably.

>> No.3375464

>>3375459
wtf the fuck is that

she's got a rattlesnake's rattle for a torso and gray dreadlocks

and a way out west thumb

>> No.3375465

>>3375461
It is spoken of in hushed whispers on doom world sometimes.

>> No.3375468

>>3375461
goons react in the typical "ew, images of naked girls! ewwww!" way

>> No.3375470

>>3375461
on doomworld i seen someone complain about the shotgun sprite in freedoom because it was in hdoom

>> No.3375481
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3375481

OH MY FUCKING GOD, WHY DID I BUY THIS UPGRADE? I THINK I'M GONNA VOMIT

>> No.3375485
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3375485

>>3375481
hi minigunner

>> No.3375486

>>3375481

what

the fuck

>> No.3375487

>>3375481
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE

>> No.3375489

>>3375481
is this a feature

>> No.3375494

>>3375459
I would have preferred Archie, she feels more like a MONSTER girl than an anime girl, even if there's usually an overlap between those two.

>> No.3375495

>>3375494
archie is a fucking awful character, though

>> No.3375497 [SPOILER] 
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>>3375494
This was made around the same time

>> No.3375504
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>>3375489
>>3375487
>>3375486
It's called "Soviet Mode"(get it? In Soviet Russia the barrel spins YOU). It's apparenty toggleable, but I exited the menu by accident after buying it, so I don't know how to un-buy it now. SEND HELP

Atleast the alt-fires still fire like normal

>> No.3375505

>>3375497
Much better. Not sure if I dig the hair, but I'd be happy with this.
>>3375495
How so?

>> No.3375516

>>3375485
Damn, I was about to post that.

>> No.3375518

>>3375504
How do you buy it? I'm looking in the upgrade menu and I don't see it.
Also, try checking the controls menu.

>> No.3375520

>>3375505
not an interesting character, not an interesting design, not fappable (which normally isn't an issue but for a porn character is pretty much a death knell for me), and personality is one of the worst character archetypes out there

>> No.3375523

>>3374930
What's the difference in the laser discs between "Normal" and "Less Effects" that improves the framerate? I've been looking back and forth in the webm and I can't tell any difference. (might as well just use the "lesser effects" version as the normal version)

>> No.3375524
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>> No.3375536

>>3375518
>try checking the controls menu
Oh, found it. Turns out it was the "chaingun special" buttom. Good call

>How do you buy it? I'm looking in the upgrade menu and I don't see it.
I'm not sure how I unlocked it, but right now I have all upgrades purchased, so maybe it has something to do with it? The upgrade icon is a hammer and sickle symbol and it appears above the chaingun model.

>> No.3375538

>>3375536
>but right now I have all upgrades purchased, so maybe it has something to do with it?
That was it, thank you.

>> No.3375553
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3375553

Is the re-release of strife worth buying? Or is the Bloom and motion blur all a fancy gimmick?

>> No.3375573
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3375573

I really love this ketchup wad, it lets me create cinematic pictures with blood.

>> No.3375580

>>3375459
It's because we want them to look more monstrous.

The current style is good in its own way, but you've essentially taken demons and turned them into lesser demons

>> No.3375584

>>3375553

I'd recommend looking at screenshots and video to determine for yourself.

>> No.3375589

>>3375580
>we

Speak for yourself, famicom.

>> No.3375591

>>3375553
I personally think Strife is a terrible game and the re-release doesn't make it any better. Like one anon said, it was trying to put an RPG peg in an FPS shaped hole.

>> No.3375597

>>3375591
>I personally think Strife is a terrible game
explain please

>> No.3375598

>>3375553
It has a new quest, and I'd imagine it would have better support for Strife than most source ports, since Strife is pretty low on the list of Doom engine games people play. Also fixes some of the original game's bugs.

>> No.3375604

>>3375580
>want them to look more monstrous

How monstrous are you talking about?


http://65.media.tumblr.com/cc9ee4b6b6a19aa86fe829f72c9c5014/tumblr_o42kpbZ73g1s0fra5o1_1280.png

>> No.3375605

>>3375604
no one should click this

got an asshole like a dump truck

>> No.3375606
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3375606

>>3375604

>that vag

>> No.3375608

>>3375604
Well, someone out there had a wank to this.

>> No.3375609

>>3375604
and this is why i will never take anyone that complains about the hdoom monsters being "too human" seriously

>> No.3375612
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>>3375604
>>3375605
>>3375606
>>3375608
>>3375609

not even looking

>> No.3375613

>>3375609

The monster girls are alright it's just whoever drew those lewd parts needs to be fucking shot.

I like snek women but what the fuck

>> No.3375615

>>3375604
Good thing Doom's sprite don't allow for that level of detail.
Unless you did it on an Icon of Sin.

>> No.3375621

>>3375615
forehead pussy

fuck its brains out

>> No.3375623
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3375623

>>3375615
now that you mention it i'm surprised i've never seen a goatse icon of sin

>> No.3375625

>>3375126
>plus he's said that he doesn't want the starterpack to win a caco

My ass.

Nobody remembers this (and I can understand why) but he delayed the release of the Starter Pack (which was supposed to be released WITH the newest update of BD), and coincidentally enough, the Cacowards from last year happened BEFORE he released SP.

Now watch as his fans, and even himself at some degree, get pissed because SP doesn't win anything this year.

It's gonna happen, just watch.

>> No.3375626
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3375626

I just wanna share this remix with you all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4ooftNoac

>> No.3375628

>>3375621
>making Romero suck your dick

>> No.3375632

>>3375628

are you implying that you don't want to make romero your bitch

>> No.3375634

>>3375632
>>3375628
>>3375623
>>3375621
>>3375615
>>3375613
>>3375604
________________________________________________________________________________________ebin____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>> No.3375635

>>3375632
I want to give him a piece of my daikatana

>> No.3375636

>>3375625
>My ass.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1544065

I'm all for shitting on Mark and his awful work, but let's at least do it for things he's actually done, rather than speculating what he will do.

>> No.3375640

>>3375636

Well, he shat on the new Doom, demanded to be given credit for an idea and then proceeded to make a mod of it for classic Doom.

But I'm willing to wait and see how things go.

>> No.3375645

holy shit crispy doom is good
why did you guys never tell me how good it was

actually i think you did but still it's a pretty cool port

>> No.3375646
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3375646

I present to you the sequel to green snek: Sneks https://www.dropbox.com/s/motzpaiqin5sh2x/Sneks.pk3?dl=0

They replace zombiemen shotgunners and chaingunners, respectively

combine this with batty to get an early-level idea of what this mod is turning into, feedback is very much appreciated as far as balance goes... still trying to figure out how this is supposed to work without the enemies dropping ammunition

>> No.3375650

>>3375625
there is precisely zero chance that the brutal doom megawad wins a cacoward.

>> No.3375652

>>3375589
Sorry.
You said "this meme" so I used "we" as in "everyone who thinks they're too human"

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>>3375652

>> No.3375659

>>3375645
It's Chocolate Doom with slightly higher resolution and no framecap. Like a slighty extended DOS experience.

>> No.3375662
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3375662

>>3375609
>>3375604
>say monsters look too human
>show drawing of monsters with retarded fucking orifices, as an argument

come on, this is like a chef burning the food all the way to the center if a customer says it's too rare.
Sorry for the food analogy.

Actually it isn't really even that, because it's not like it's the genitals I was complaining about in the first place

seriously that's not an argument. You're using an extreme retard picture.

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>>3375269
oh the memories...

>> No.3375727
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3375727

Can we start a Doom2016 /vr/ clan?

>> No.3375731

>>3375727
That makes no sense

>> No.3375735

>>3375727

are there even people who play doom iv competitively

>> No.3375739

>>3375727
>Clan

This can't end well

>> No.3375743

>>3375727
Doomseeker supports that shit easier with way more maps besides.

Besides, what does NuDoom clan even do?

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3375749

>>3375731
shut up you make no sense

>>3375735
Probably not.

>>3375739
What could possibly go wrong?

>>3375743
There are a couple gamemodes made solely for clans.

>> No.3375769
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3375769

Where's the freakin' red key card...!

>> No.3375791

>>3375769

dat ass

>> No.3375803
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3375803

>>3375769

>> No.3375806

>>3375803

...Why is his pants unfiltered while everything else is filtered?

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3375809

>>3375769

>> No.3375812

>>3375803
from back when gearbox were too poor to be too terrible

>> No.3375814
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3375814

>>3375803
>Speed maxed
>Shitty air and hangtime

>> No.3375816

>>3375814
Those are his stats when you first unlock him
type IDKFA in as a cheat in the options menu

>> No.3375845

I'm looking through the code of D4D, and i'm seeing a lot of ampersands where the sprite name would be, what does it mean?

>> No.3375881

Anyone here know of Mars 3D, a chinese doom clone?

>> No.3375882

>>3375881

KISSUMYASS

>> No.3375883

>>3375881
I think I have some how. I don't remember, but that name is familiar. It had silly voice clips didn't it.

>> No.3375890
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3375890

i think i might have hit him a little too hard :/ :/ :/

>> No.3375893

>>3375881
KISSUMYAZ

Mars3Dguy in Samsara when

>> No.3375898

>>3375890
Is that a doom 4 centered weapons pack?

>> No.3375903

>>3375881
yup
someone here made a resources wad from it, and the disk thrower ended up in reelism

why are you asking? is it getting remade or something?

>> No.3375909

>>3375898
as if

>> No.3375916

>>3375890
top tier glory kill

punch 'em in the nuts and they explode

>> No.3375918

>>3375890

make it a right uppercut

also that is fucking great, though I would say the pullback animation is a little odd

>> No.3375923

>>3375903
I'm hoping for ZDoom compatibility or a remake, yes

>> No.3375924

>>3375923
zdoom compat isn't happening - it uses doom asset formats for ease of development but is an entirely different engine

>>3375918
pullback anim is currently just the same animation but reversed, i need to fix that

>> No.3375925

>>3375923
I mean, it shouldnt be too hard, it was converted to a wad file over here
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=8F5DF51324362A68%21477&cid=8F5DF51324362A68
but its a little wonky

>> No.3375939

Anyone remember when Post Hell had this playing in the background?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP0Dvkl7zRE
Who made it?
What is it from?

>> No.3375970

I made a sword and ripped off a game again

demo video: https://my.mixtape.moe/rbhdno.mp4

download: http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/assorted/notazweihander.pk3

>> No.3376010

>>3375970
Shield is nice but that forced camera swing looks pretty annoying.

>> No.3376015

>>3376010

This.

Sorry ijon, you may have me beat in crazy, but I got you whipped when it comes to melee

>> No.3376017

>>3376010
it adds weight to the swing

>>3376015
nah I like this more, it actually feels like you're swinging the thing rather than floating around and spamming mouse 1

>> No.3376020

>>3376017

Weight doesn't mean much if you're giving the player motion sickness, plus good luck trying to juke projectiles with that.

No one whips their head from side to side when swinging things

>> No.3376028

>>3375523

Trail and particles fade out thrice as fast.

Minimal effects removes particles entirely and trail is barely there.

>> No.3376034

>>3376020
no one runs around at 40mph when swinging things either.

this is dark souls style, not demonsteele style; if you're attacking, you aren't moving. you get whatever momentum you entered the swing with and that's it, which means you're just as open during attacks as the enemies are during theirs. it changes the dynamic drastically.

the only reason jumping is unlocked mid-swing is so you can do jump attacks. hell, I considered locking turning as well, but I figured that was too much since you're in first person.

and since you don't have third person animations showing your character actually putting their full body into the swing, manipulating the camera is the next best thing.

>> No.3376037

>>3376034
>this is dark souls style
>it changes the dynamic drastically
Therein lies the problem. It works in Dark Souls, because everything else is designed around the change dynamic. The unique damage and pain system does a lot for that.

This is not Dark Souls. It should be designed around Doom gameplay and traditional Doom style of play, unless you plan on changing the rest of the game to accommodate it.

>> No.3376043
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3376043

>>3375970
>That recoil when the sword hits a wall
I love it. I'd tone down on the swing followthrough though, it looks too extreme, like the wielder's head is attached to their arm.

>> No.3376047

>>3375970
>>3376017
your "weight" does nothing except throw off my aim and make the weapon incredibly difficult to wield
map07, one of the simplest maps in doom, looks like an absolute pain in the ass now

for what reason would i wield this over another weapon that is both more reliable to aim and simpler to use

>> No.3376051

>>3375403
whats this map

>> No.3376062

In DECORATE, can I use an inventory item or user variable's count to determine how far to make a state jump?

I have a projectile that could be interrupted at any time by its bounce state and I want to be able to set the state frame back to where it was before it bounced. I would add to a variable/inventory item each frame of its flight state and use that as the offset to jump back to, if it worked, anyway.

>> No.3376063

>>3376037
I'm actually enjoying the change in gameplay, although it needs easier maps to play on. hell, fighting a cyberdemon with this was the first time I've enjoyed fighting them in a long, long time.

>unless you plan on changing the rest of the game to accommodate it
something like that, yeah, but it'd be for hexen. dunno where exactly where it'd go, but hexen and the souls games seem like they'd go well together.

'course if I do that I'll actually have to implement shit like stamina, chip damage, and shield stability, or else poking is going to win everything forever, and that's no fun.

and also make the monsters not use standard melee attacks, since those are literally just distance checks, bypassing everything in between you and them. it's awful.

by the way, I was turning into swings in that map07 playthrough, making the camera movement look much more drastic than it is. here's an actual comparison between camera movement and no camera movement. https://my.mixtape.moe/mwpyrv.mp4

I still think the no-camera-movement one feels like you're swinging around a toy.

>>3376047
I'm turning into the swing manually as well; it automatically re-centers normally, I made sure of that.

it's not gonna throw off your aim because the damn thing hits everything within its something like 200 degree wide swing. it's not using a_custompunch - you don't need to be pixel-perfect with your aim. just swing the damn thing at them, and you'll hit them. you'll probably knock off anywhere between 270 to 350 health as well. that's gonna happen to everyone who decided to get in the way of your sword.

the reason you'd use it is because it's fun. it's fun jumping down, doing a 360 with this thing, and killing everyone within 10 feet of you in one swing. it's fun dancing with a group of enemies, waiting for openings, and cutting them down with extreme prejudice the moment you get one.

>> No.3376067

>>3376063

If you're going full dark souls you're gonna need more than just a sword. Most of the fun in those games, at least for me, is using different weapons and playstyles. I like the look of it so far though.

>> No.3376071

>>3376062
yep, use A_JumpIfInventory

you can use dummy inventory items to track all sorts of things

>> No.3376086

>>3376071
>A_JumpIfInventory
That's just going to mean I have to set heaps of A_Jumpifs for every possible offset. I want to use the inventory item/variable as the jump offset itself, but DECORATE doesn't accept it as a number.

>> No.3376093

>>3376086
>That's just going to mean I have to set heaps of A_Jumpifs for every possible offset
Thats right. Welcome to doom DECORATE, hope you enjoy your stay. Get your free spaghetti on the left, and your dummy items on the right.

>> No.3376102

i just learned how terrible it is to do anything DECORATE related for zandronum
fucking hoop jumping simulator 2016
i'll stick to having good, sensible, useful features with a side basically absent multiplayer

>> No.3376106
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3376106

>>3376093
We have Doomscript with anonymous functions but we still can't use integer expressions for state offsets?

>> No.3376109

>>3376106
http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_WeaponOffset ?

>> No.3376119

>>3376106
You could use an ACS script to track something, I think thats what the pro's do. CallACS or somesuch:

http://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS_NamedExecuteWithResult

>> No.3376128

>>3376119
SetActorState lets you jump to a state name, but not include an offset.
http://zdoom.org/wiki/SetActorState

>>3376109
Nah, not that kind of offset.

>> No.3376134
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3376134

>>3376128
that state could then have a A_Jump with the correct offset.

I usually use a combination of A_JumpIfInventory and A_Jump to get what I need. What are you trying to do? just bite the bullet and code it!

pic: reload state for a mosin nagant I coded

>> No.3376142

>>3376134
I'm trying to have a bouncing projectile place a decal on walls using a backwards hitscan attack, then have it immediately go back to wherever it was in its flight state. I'll work something out, I'm just annoyed the cleaner solution isn't possible. (I hate reading through piles of Jump functions, your image is a good example of how messy it is and how easy it is to screw something up)

>> No.3376150
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3376150

>>3376142
agreed, decorate could be much easier to work with. all we need is ints and variables within the action functions. There are work-arounds, and they usually end up pretty solid, but yeah you're left with spaghetti unless you call ACS to keep track of your variables.

also I think you can just specify new bounce states for every time it bounces... just put your hitscan in the first frame of each bounce state.

pic is for a bouncing grenade

>> No.3376152
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3376152

>>3376150
Hello! I'm the magical device that will make your code more readable! Let's be best friends!

>> No.3376153

>>3376152
heh yeah sometimes I get lazy (or just need to save time). That decorate file has 7500+ lines so you can't expect them all to be perfectly formatted

>> No.3376156

>>3376150
I've worked something out, but yeah, decorate could be better...

>> No.3376163

>>3376153
sure we can, slade will auto-indent the next line to match the previous, pretty sure notepad++ does that as well.

>> No.3376276

https://clyp.it/ioajara4

Tesla Beam sound I've been toying with, tried to get a meaty sustained zapping like when someone plays a low note on a musical tesla coil.

>> No.3376309

>>>/wsg/1198990
Yay for nashgore.

>> No.3376312

>>3376309
whoever said the flak cannon wasn't possible in doom clearly did not know what they were talking about

>> No.3376345

>>3376312
Flak Cannon? Wh-what are y-you talking about this is totally a completely original gun
I don't think I've heard anyone say that, though.

>> No.3376363

>>3375845
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Sprite#Special_names

>> No.3376393
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3376393

Anyone recognize this wad?

>> No.3376397

>>3376393
it's not even polygons my guy how the fuck we supposed to recognize any of this shit

>> No.3376401

>>3376393
Psychophobia.
The HUD at the bottom gives it away.

>> No.3376402

>>3376401
Ah yes I remember now. Just forgot the name. Thanks

>> No.3376403
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3376403

look at that fucker go

he's really going for it the loon

>> No.3376601
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3376601

Man, why am I even doing this. Even with saves I won't be able to do map20 of Sunlust. Map19 neither, at least with D4D.

>> No.3376627

>>3376601
What difficulty?

>> No.3376656

Going to be without wi-fi for an entire week, what level packs, gameplay mods, and the like should I download to keep me occupied?
I only have Reelism so far, and I'm only 18 so I don't really know what any good ones are

>> No.3376658

>>3376627
UV, although I guess it's Nightmare in D4D.

>> No.3376660

>>3376656
Accessories to Murder, Demonsteele, Samsara, Dakka, Polished Skull

Sunlust

>> No.3376661

>>3376656
Check out the "So you wanna play some Doom" image in the second reply. Bunch of those there, alongside others.

>> No.3376667

>>3376656
Demonsteele and DoomRL Arsenal are pretty good gameplay wads. Back to Saturn X, Valiant, the Japanese Community Project, and Jenesis are some of my favorite level packs, try them out

>> No.3376675

>easily reach 450+ ups circle jumping in QuakeWorld
>guides say the maximum possible ground speed in Quake III Arena is 410 ups
>there's no major changes to the ground movement code or parameters
What happened? I honestly can't tell.

>> No.3376685

>>3376403
We're gonna doombuild a wall, and we're gonna make the UAC pay for it

>> No.3376686

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzF7oAShwfw

>> No.3376702

I-is it ok to talk about D44M here? I finished it the other day and felt pretty pleased with it all.

I liked that they added in the classic weapon pose too

>> No.3376712
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3376712

DOOM 2 TRIVIA

>> No.3376725

Is there a way to get my Midid's in g/zdoom to sound this good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM5esDUGiKc

>> No.3376746

>>3376725
Timidity++ running a custom soundfont desu
That's what I do at least.

>> No.3376770

>>3376746
how do?

>> No.3376792

>>3376656
get oblige and drla, unlimited of fun
plus, even if you have limited wifi, doom maps are really light so you should still be able to scrape /idgame all you want

>> No.3376805
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3376805

2/3 done with map's layout I guess.
I have horrible idea with chaingunners that I'll probably use.

Should be easier than Electron - just barely, placed slightly earlier? Electron's just before penultimate map, and final maps' an IoS-map.

Gonna probably drop Space Colony-map with its Simon Says colour-scheme and merge it with some other idea I had.

I wonder if I can even get this set done by August...

>> No.3376843

>>3376660
>>3376667
>>3376792
Thanks for all the recommendations, lots of these look like bowls of fun.

>> No.3376849
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3376849

>tfw you want to play Sunlust with weapon mods but the final level lags too much with mods

>> No.3376858

>Fighting 3 of the black barons of hell in D4D
>Run out of shotgun shells
>Switches to the fucking pistol
>Max machine gun ammo
>But it switches to the pistol

>> No.3376859

>>3376849
>playing Sunlust with complex doom
>it freezes in the part when the monsters resurrect

>> No.3376862

>playing Sunlust
>i complete it and it was good

>> No.3376864

>>3376862
I'm sure it was good I just haven't played it yet. Right now I'm focusing of JPCP with Zion

>> No.3376867

>playing Doom
>get to the last level
>finish Doom
whoah

>> No.3376871

>>3376849
unrelated, but your pic just reminded me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC2dRkm8ATU&list=PLFe-bCjffqXu02KtYf9EzPbma5_AaAOKp&index=3

>> No.3376874

>>3376867
whoa

>> No.3376875

>>3376656
This guy here.
Trying to get Doom RL Arsenal working, but every time I open it I get a lot of script warnings and end up with the normal Doom II levels.
I was using Zdoom 2.8.1, and using the drag method if that matters.
I'm really new to all this so sorry if this is something most people know

>> No.3376878

>>3376867
Holy shit, really

Upload a video of this, I need to see this for myself

>> No.3376881

>>3376875
DoomRL Arsenal doesn't include any new maps of its own, besides the test map that is generally inaccessible unless you warp there specifically. The warnings are probably fine, the mod has lots of checks for DoomRPG stuff which will give warnings if you don't have it loaded. As long as you get class selection, a working HUD (press + if you use the statusbar HUD normally), and enemies replaced, you did it right.

>> No.3376882

>>3376867
>finishing Doom
bullshit.

>> No.3376883

>>3376867
dude, nice

>> No.3376884

>>3376875
use ZDL
doomRLA doensn't have premade levels make a megawad with oblige and load it with it
don't forget to load the HUD (and monsters) with it
dommRL monsters in in beta, you'll get some warnings

>> No.3376891

>mfw shotgun sergeants in D4D
kys

>> No.3376894

>>3376891
gete güd

>> No.3376895
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3376895

Is that a colon? Or an anus?

>> No.3376897

>>3376895
generic intestine section

>> No.3376907

>>3376895

It's a tentacle where they were probed by the space pottery that took over the land.

>> No.3376921
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3376921

Map 07 on Strife is the only map I like.

>> No.3376928

>>3376675
wait, no
default sv_friction was changed from 6 to 4 in quakeworld, but changed back in quake 2 for some reason
id's code is really messy and filled with abandoned ideas (eg. PMF_TIME_LAND)

>> No.3376930

>>3376921
out of 20000+ maps this madman only likes one

>> No.3376937
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3376937

I call this in the name of the Doom community


the Blood circle.


almost reminds me of Rorschach's death

>> No.3376948

>>3376937
DO IIIIIT

>> No.3376954

i shot an imp just to watch it die

>> No.3376959

>>3376894
i know i'm taking the bait but
>20hp with a single pellet
wow this is such shit

>> No.3376963

>>3376891
regardless of how high of a pedestal I place it upon, D4D's bullshit moments are dime a dozen.

>> No.3376971
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3376971

>Haven't played Doom 4
>Play D4D
>Teleporting Archviles

>> No.3376980

>>3376884
To load the monsters and HUD with it, would I just drag-and-drop all three to ZDoom?

>> No.3376992

>>3376980
Like he said, you should use ZDL.

>> No.3376997

>>3376867
>says he's going to finish Doom
>actually finishes Doom
absolute madman

>> No.3377001

Has anyone ever beaten Plutonia?
I've heard legends, but has anyone truly done it?

>> No.3377009

>>3376959
i thought so to but if you actually kill them you'll get some health back

also keep moving lateral to the enemies. never not be strafing, always dodge even if no one is there.

>> No.3377010

>>3377001
i heard eric beat plutonia in a duel

>> No.3377014

>>3377001
Yeah, I heard about those legends too but I've never seen any proof. Honestly I don't think it's possible.

>> No.3377027

>>3377001
You gotta wash the chaingun!
You gotta date the chaingun!
You gotta BE the chaingun!!!

>> No.3377043

>>3377001
>tfw gave up on map03 in HNTR
kill me

>> No.3377050
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3377050

Okay guys, pick one
>double assault rifle
>minigun

>> No.3377053

>>3377050

Double minigun.

>> No.3377054

>>3377050
Single assault rifle for accuracy.
Minigun for easy head popping.

>> No.3377056

>>3377050

minigun

>> No.3377057

>>3377053
what about a double ASSAULT minigun ?

>> No.3377060

>>3377053
yes.

>> No.3377061
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3377061

>>3377057
>ASSAULT minigun
I would totally dig a modernized version of Wolfenstein's pistol-gripped minigun.

>> No.3377062

anyone else having an issue with the D4D chaingun in which after holding it down long enough, it'll fire once every tic, do no damage at all, and then go back to the normal firing speed while still not dealing damage?

>> No.3377063

>>3377027
/r/ing pic of doom guy in the shape of a giant chaingun infront of a real one, ala that scene from the spongebob episode

>> No.3377067

>>3377057
>>3377053
>>3377050

guys guys guys

hear me out

now what if

ok just bear with me

but

BUT

what if
double bfg

>> No.3377070

>>3377061
look like them dang ol nerf gun what from the tv

>> No.3377087
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3377087

>>3377067

Just imagine the ammo usage

>> No.3377094

>>3377057
How would you take a minigun and make it an assault minigun, put an underbarrels grenade launcher on it?

>> No.3377095
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3377095

>>3376867
>there are people who will fall for this and ask for proof

>> No.3377096
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3377096

>>3376805
>final maps' an IoS-map
I hope you know what you're doing.

>> No.3377101
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3377101

>>3377067
o fuc

>> No.3377103

So on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad of an idea is it to try Plutonia with D4D on at least UV?

>> No.3377104
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3377104

hhnnnggg can't reach

>> No.3377108

>>3377103
1, not bad at all.

just hard.

>> No.3377112

>>3377096
More in vein of "Illuminati Revealed" from Ancient Aliens is the idea.

>> No.3377117
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3377117

Alrighty

>> No.3377119

Gotta have my shotty

>> No.3377120

>>3377117
hf

>> No.3377124
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3377124

>>3377117
>>3377103
Anon, that's not D4D you loaded. Anon, I don't think those two mods are supposed to be loaded together

>> No.3377126

>>3377117

Nice recipe for death.

>> No.3377128

I'm tired of playing WADs with 30 huge levels

I want WADs with maybe lots of levels, but shorter levels, none of this 200 monster tomfoolery

>> No.3377138
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3377138

>tight spaced Pinky ambushes with D4D
>no holo-grenade available

>> No.3377141

>>3377138
is "spam siege gauss" an option, because it was in doom 4

>> No.3377150

>>3377138
>>3377141

Punching pinkies in the face really should stagger them. Damn it.

>> No.3377152

>>3377141
That's a good option, but penetrating super shotgun wrecks bigger shit in these situations I feel. Too bad I only have a non-upgraded shotgun currently.

>> No.3377154

>>3377128
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/dmonfear I'm playing this with D4D right now. 32 short levels.

>> No.3377163

>>3377141
>>3377152
Well, do you have the chainsaw atleast? The health drops should make up for whatever health you lost

>> No.3377185
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3377185

>Rendering Interpolation screws up projectile trails
No wonder I thought Dreadnought's beam shots looked weird.

>> No.3377207

>have to click to fire the pistol each time

>> No.3377212

>>3377207
Don't mind that if it shoots as fast as I can click.

>> No.3377219

>>3377207

Why are you using a pistol in the first place? 9 times out of 10 you have something better.

>> No.3377220

>>3377212
I don't think it's a good idea to make a weapon with a DPS only equivalent to how many times per second a player can click.

Plus it's a great way to develop carpal tunnel.

>> No.3377250

>>3377212
this is fine

>>3377220
>it's a great way to develop carpal tunnel
[citation needed]

>> No.3377257
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3377257

>>3377207
>having to click to fire the gun
>guns doesn't automatically fire when the monster's in view

>> No.3377260
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3377260

>>3377257
>monster has to be in view
>bullets don't automatically leave the gun and seek out the nearest monster

woooow

>> No.3377261

>>3377257

>having to shoot at the monsters
>not having the monsters die instantly when they enter your field of view

>> No.3377262

>>3377260

>having to shoot at all

>monsters don't die exactly when you enter the level

Seriously?

>> No.3377265

>>3375117

I was stuck on that for litterally hours. Fuck that level and I don't even remember where the switch is.

Also, good Hexen/Heretic WADs? Brutal Hexen has gotten my me hungry for fantasy Doom.

>> No.3377268

>>3375117
fuck that spot is bullshit

>>3377265
elf is pissed is not bad

>> No.3377269

so are we going to keep posting strawman arguments and anime pics every time someone criticizes term's shitty gun

>> No.3377273

>>3377268
> elf gets pissewd
the interpic gave me a good larf

>>3377269
a lot of mods have semi-auto pistols
the thing is, they use ammo and do some acutal damage

>> No.3377274

>>3377269
back from your 3 day ban huh

>> No.3377276

>>3377269
Oh, is that what you're complaining about?

Frankly, that just makes it funnier.

>> No.3377279
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3377279

>>3377269
where do you think you are

>> No.3377281

Is GMOTA still being actively developed?

>> No.3377284

>>3377269
i thought this time it was the d4d pistol since dump 3 is over and no one cares

>> No.3377285

>>3377269
What's the matter, you want to be passive-aggressive and then get upset when we play hardball?

>> No.3377286

>>3377281

Last I heard, Kegan was doing a reboot.

>> No.3377287

>>3377207
>have to click to fire the rifle once
>then have to click and hold to operate the bolt to eject the round and chamber a new one
>have to pray it doesn't jam in the process
>doesn't matter because you got shot in the ass by a shotgunner 50 miles away and bled out on the spot

>> No.3377289
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3377289

>>3377284
>dump 3 is over

no it isn't

>> No.3377292

>>3377285
>hardball
>responding to everything with well i like it so nothing should change
graf.txt

>> No.3377293

>>3377284
not even released yet
and i even got a gun in
i think
also fuck zandro

>> No.3377295

>>3377289
The actual "make things" period is over.

It's compiling and tweaking updates, though, which is taking a while since fuckmammoth amounts.

Term, next time you may want to put a fucking cap on map amount.

>> No.3377301

>>3377289
>>3377293
releasing the test build really killed the thread's interest in it, i hardly ever see someone mention it now

it even feels weird talking about it

>> No.3377303

>>3377292
Yes, actually. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it has to change. Throwing a fit when people disagree still doesn't mean it has to change. Being a basic little shit about it weeks after the fact just makes it funny.

>> No.3377306

>>3377301
i'm still interested, there's just not much to mention, honestly

during the making period, everyone was talking about their wips and tossing ideas and criticisms and stuff that mitebcool
the testing period doesn't really rely on other people, it's just download and play and then put on the shelf

the nature of dump is that the focus should be on the developmental period, iirc, since it's all about getting something done
the release afterwards is really just gravy

>> No.3377307

>>3377301
I think this is partially because, unlike other mapsets, the focus on DUMP isn't so much actually playing it but rather making something for it.

It could never be released and I'd still be happy with what I made.

>> No.3377312

>>3377306
>the testing period doesn't really rely on other people
Erm, yes it does.

>> No.3377314
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3377314

It really looses a lot when you strip away the normal map because the mesh has been too twisted for it to fit.

>> No.3377316

>>3377312
sorry, let me rephrase
what i mean to say is that, unlike mapping, you can test entirely by yourself without other people providing input on how you test, what your testing method is, or what the most efficient way to test is

>> No.3377318

>>3377316
>the most efficient way to test
An AutoHotKey script that spams random inputs for 12 hours.

>> No.3377340
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3377340

>>3376992
I don't fucking understand how to use it
I installed Zandorium or whatever it's called a while ago and now I just see "doom file" for every .pk3 and wad so I don't know what's what
Please kill me I feel retarded

>> No.3377353

>>3377220
Your assumption hinges on the pistol having literally 1dmg per hit

>> No.3377356
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3377356

>>3377340
Come on Anon, it's pretty easy to use.

>> No.3377380
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3377380

OH SHIT SOMEONE SAID WE FORGOT ABOUT DUMP 3

WELL WE DIDN'T

45.79.134.90:10727

[TSPG] Painkiller: DumpDepot

NEEDS ZANDRO 3.0

NOW LET'S DOOM

>> No.3377386

>>3377356
I'm trying to play with an oblige-generated map and it won't let me, but when I drag-and-drop it's fine.
I'm just going to keep dragging and dropping.
Also the HUD is still normal for DoomRL.

>> No.3377398

>>3377353
actually it hinges on having low dmg per hit in general, it doesn't need to literally be 1 damage and why you would think that other than to bring fallacies into an otherwise perfectly disagreeable opinion is beyond me

>> No.3377409

>>3377281
>>3377286

I'll make progress tonight and share it with you guys, I promise.

It won't be big or substantial, but I'll make progress

>> No.3377416
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3377416

>It's a map where the gimmick is it's abundance of Archviles

>> No.3377419 [DELETED] 

>>3377285
>hardball
show me your slipknot masks

>> No.3377420

>>3377416
>it ends with two teleporters, one of which leaves you at 5% health for the next stage
how did hunted make it past id's qa

>> No.3377421
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3377421

Explain this trickery.

>> No.3377424 [DELETED] 

>It's a map where the gimmick is it is SSG-bait

>> No.3377425

>>3377303
fill me in on how does one a complex little shit

>> No.3377426

>>3377421
I beg you to put http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31680 in your autoload folder

>> No.3377427

>>3377421
What, the sprite billboarding or the blood pool on the floor? If it is the later, it was acomplished by using a flat 3D model with the blood pool as texture. Although, in later versions of Gzdoom, you don't even need to do that anymore, because the engine now supports flat sprites.

>> No.3377429 [DELETED] 

>>3377285
>we
>play
>hardball
an interesting reinterpretation on 'you get no mercy in my world'-tier posts.

>> No.3377430
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3377430

>>3377427
Billboarding.

>> No.3377438 [DELETED] 

>>3377285
lol

>> No.3377439

>>3377430
>settings >display options >opengl options >preferences >sprite billboard

>> No.3377440
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3377440

>>3377430
Oh. I don't know them. It's just OpenGL sorcery.

>> No.3377447

You dislike pistols that need you to click as fast as you want to do things?
You have fear of carpal tunnel?
You want to have a good pistol that can do its own thing?

Do it simple, keep the pew pew pew while holding it but also give it the option to tapfire it, this of course rises its spread (meanwhile holding it has no spread, but higher DPS) and also a reload so people with autoexec experience don't abuse a bind that fires a bullet per tic by just holding a button (i'd do it ;).), or maybe a delay so you can't fire it every tic but this is haram so let's go with reloads, because everyone loves reloads and those who don't, go be a purist somewhere else.

But what if the pistol is reduced to nothing after you get a new and better weapon?
The pistol is there so you have an emergency weapon, you're not supposed to use the pistol unless...
-Its shit (see doom)
-It can be upgraded (doom RLA) or it uses its own ammo (Project MSX)
-It can be possible to do pistol-only runs with it (basically, any pistol with infinite or near infinite ammo + reliable power fits this, this can apply to demonsteele as you might never run out of pistol ammo, and even then you have a sword so...)
-Its the Halo 1 pistol

sage because i just wanted to put my opinion on pistols

>> No.3377448
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3377448

>look at the DarkPlaces source code
>there's a variable named "strafity"

>> No.3377450

>>3377447
Also, i just realized i made a typo, its supposed to be "(meanwhile holding it has no spread but lower DPS)". Berettus forgive me, for i have sinned.

>> No.3377457 [DELETED] 

>>3377447
>>3377450
now watch as the collective intelligence of doom's general bites with +5 snarky replies.

>> No.3377464

>>3376656
This guy here, for hopefully the last time.
What the fuck makes me move forward when I push my mouse forward a little and how do I disable it.

>> No.3377469

>>3377464
under the mouse options there should be a setting for moving

>> No.3377470

>>3377464
options>mouse settings>always freelook

>> No.3377479

>>3377447
>>3377450
The DUMP 3 pistol has the hold firing the same spread as tap firing, so you have to manually fire even slower to get rid of it.

>> No.3377482

>>3377447
>so let's go with reloads, because everyone loves reloads and those who don't, go be a purist somewhere else.
No.

>> No.3377483 [DELETED] 

>>3377457
damn you're really fucking passive-aggressive tonight

>> No.3377484

>>3377447
The MSX pistol is perfect against zombiemen and shotgunners. Only flaw is rare ammo.

DRLA pistols are really either scout or GTFO, due to their lower base damage and the scout's crazy multiplier.

>> No.3377487
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3377487

>>3377439
much better

>> No.3377506

>>3376725
If you're using Z/GZDoom, you can use this guy's music packs:

http://sc55.duke4.net/

He didn't release the Hexen and Heretic packs yet though but they're "Coming Soon"

>> No.3377509

>>3377484
The Elven Wand in Heretic is a great pistol example imo. Accurate with tap fire for sniping, decent speed if you hold and has it's own ammo pool to differentiate it from the Dragon Claw. It even remains useful in late game, if you use it with the Tome of Power. Great against single large enemies at mid-range. I feel like all pistols should be at least as useful as a non-Tome of Power Wand.

>> No.3377519

Why does the /doom/ comic mock the janitors? We have the best janitors.

>> No.3377521

>>3377509
aside from its own ammo supply and the tome of power, it is a clone of the doom pistol

>> No.3377524

>>3377519
it's old

>> No.3377526

>>3377521

Not him, but I feel like the wand fires a little faster.

>> No.3377527
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3377527

>>3377519
Mods being useless is a long-running 4chan joke.

Have an oooold /tg/ comic.

>> No.3377530

>>3377521
It fires faster

>> No.3377534
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3377534

>>3377527
>/tg/ comic

Oh man, I thought I was the only fa/tg/uy.

>> No.3377536
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3377536

>>3377534
>I thought I was the only fa/tg/uy.

not even close

>> No.3377542

>>3377534
>the shotgun i imagined was the doom4 shotgun
i have played d4d for only one day and i am already ruined as a human being, as a person, i'm fundamentally defective. i should put myself down.

>> No.3377545

>>3377527
>reporting trolls to moderators

Someone's triggered

>> No.3377546
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3377546

>>3377487

It looks nice on enemies but can look pretty silly with everything else.

Pic related.

>> No.3377549

hey what was that scrapped doom monster that was supposed to come out of the wall

we can do that now

>> No.3377551

i never understood why gl renderers always defaulted to tilting sprites with the viewangle
when team tnt said they didn't want monsters to "look like they were leaning backwards" with mouselook i doubt that was what they meant
somebody with too much free time should make a mod with custom sprites for objects at vertical angles

>> No.3377552

>>3377549

The Blob was its name if I remember correctly, it was ultimately replaced with the Pain Elemental.

>> No.3377554

>>3377551
>i never understood why gl renderers always defaulted to tilting sprites with the viewangle

Because of this >>3377546 probably

>> No.3377557

>>3377546
The techpillars should really have +FORCEYBILLBOARD by default.

>> No.3377558

>>3377542
>i should put myself down
Yeah. There's something wrong with you if you can remember the d44m shotgun.

>> No.3377576

>>3377484
>Only flaw is rare ammo
I THINK the badass monsters addon fixes this, it adds new ammo pickups, pistol mags boxes being one of them, the assault rifle is a nice jack of all trades.

>> No.3377584

>>3377482
Okay then, you get delays so people don't use autoexecs for abusing instead of reloads, happy?

>> No.3377598
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3377598

>> No.3377608

>>3377584
Friend, if people are making autoexecs with their own little routines and subroutines in order to bypass gameplay, the firing rate of my pistol is the last thing I'm worried about.

>> No.3377610

While at id Software I was continually amazed by the pencil and pixel-pushing prowess of co-owner/co-founder/artist Adrian Carmack. He never uses a scan and rarely uses reference for anything. Trained as a traditional artist, he spent internships working for morgues where he honed his anatomical amstery made famous in the work he did on Doom and other id titles. His raw talent for taking a blank page and filing it up with a bunch of tiny, colored squares that soon resembled an image rivaling a render from a 3D model has been the source of inspiration for many digital artists. One of the coolest pieces of art I watched him create was a DPaint rendering of a rubber duck that sat on top of his monitor. Dubbed his "only true friend" at the time, the duck was painted for a secret area in Quake II. The thing that impressed me the most was the speed with which he created it and his unerring eye for a consistent light source. Of all the masterpieces this "Frazetta" of the computer game industry has done -- wall textures, Barons of Hell, Quake bad guys, and even Commander Keen -- perfectly reproducing that rubber duck using 21 colors from a fixed, 256-color palette with DPint in 1997 stands out the most. Adrian, you rock. Thanks for everything -- especially for the time and impetus to write this book!

- Modeling a Character in 3DS Max by Paul Steed

>> No.3377616

>>3377610
i was worried i was alone in freakishly idolizing adrian carmack
but no, he was just that good

>> No.3377618

>>3377616
got any good links? i'm tired of reading about oh we took photos and put them in dpaint

give me some info on the theory, the reason behind his artistic decisions, give me some words from adrian carmack

>> No.3377621
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3377621

>a comic in the map

>> No.3377623

>>3377618

Not much to give, frankly.
Adrian was a fairly private guy.

>> No.3377624

>>3377621
WHAT THE... CREEPY BONE

>> No.3377625

>>3377621
what the... creepy bone

>> No.3377626

>>3377621
CREEPY BONE

>> No.3377627

>>3377621

What the... Creepy bone

>> No.3377629

>>3377621

CREEPY BONE

>> No.3377631

>>3377621
>creepy bone
You're all right, Japan.

>> No.3377636

>>3377621

>CREEPY BONE

there's your next thread title, OPguy

>> No.3377640

>>3377621
what the.. CREEPY BONE

>> No.3377643

>>3377621
Now somebody will probably remake loss.jpg in the same fashion

>> No.3377646

i love creepy bone

>> No.3377649
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3377649

do we have to take a photo, john

>> No.3377659

>>3377649
>After leaving the game industry, John Romero polymorphed into the lead singer of POD.

>> No.3377669
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3377669

>D4D Lost Souls and Pain Elementals

>> No.3377672

>>3377649
On a scale from 1 to 10, how awkward would it be between Adrian and Tom in a reunion of old id member?

>> No.3377673

>>3377669
I always use my most powerful weaponry to just take them out as soon as possible

>> No.3377676

>>3377669
Gauss Cannon wrecks Pain Elemental shit so hard.

If you have Siphon grenades that will work as a defensive wall for other weapons if you don't have something better or are out in the open.

>> No.3377706
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3377706

Why does Doom have the weirdest named devs?

>> No.3377732

>>3377706
sandy peterson is probably the weirdest desu

>> No.3377743
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3377743

>>3377621
>IT'S HELL JOKE?

>> No.3377765
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3377765

how come I keep dying

>> No.3377768

>>3377765

it might have something to do with the mod you're playing

>> No.3377803

>>3377043
the only difference between uv and hntr is a single archvile turns into a hellknight

>> No.3377816

>>3377001
this guy beat it in 27 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgG5KwLrzr8

>> No.3377819
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3377819

>mfw tricks and traps with d4d

what the fuck did I just play

>> No.3377826

>>3377816

that is clearly a fake video

look closely at the bfg, you can tell that it's just two toy guns put together

>> No.3377832

>>3377816
I'm still surprised the Plutonia mappers never noticed you could just squeeze through all those bars.

>> No.3377834

>>3377706
"john" is hardly a rare or unusual name.

>> No.3377840

>>3377832
I think its something to do with holding forward while other shit happens in the map, too many monsters doing stuff and doom forgets where you are and lets you through... or something. Some kind of tricky cheaty trick

>> No.3377842

>>3377840
It's apparently that Doom Guy is EXACTLY as wide as the space between the bars, so it's trying to line up that perfect placement where Doom Guy's width fits in between.

>> No.3377850

>>3377832
nobody did until about 2006 when a guy named cack_handed found the first glide in hr02

>>3377840
it's much less complicated than that. you are 32 units wide and so is the gap. thus your sides have to be exactly aligned with the edges of the gap to enter it. http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Glide

>> No.3377859

>>3377067
Made this ages ago, for some contest that required using vanilla resources only. Never actually submitted it, I guess because I wanted to have special death animations for it, but probably never got around to them.

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=spamcannon.pk3

>> No.3377860

>>3377542
>>3377558
... what?

you havin a giggle or something there?

>> No.3377861
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3377861

DO NOT SNIPE THE CACODEMON

>> No.3377864
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3377864

Feeling like an absolute madman right now

>> No.3377865

You know a mod project is going well the moment you copy-paste DSTAUNT into it...

>> No.3377867

>>3377865

HEH HEEEEENNNHHHH

>> No.3377868

>>3377542
>>3377558
Explain

>> No.3377869

>>3377864
name of map?

>> No.3377870

>>3377867
What did Carnevil mean by this?

>> No.3377873

>>3377869
Looks like Cyberdreams.

Good mapset.
Crazy with DemonSteele.

>> No.3377874

>>3377621
>REVENA
>GENERA
I knew it. I FUCKING KNEW THESE THREADS WERE CHOCKFUL AGITATED SKEKINGTONS.

>> No.3377878

>>3377732
what about American McGee?

>> No.3377879

>>3377869
Cyberdreams

>> No.3377884
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3377884

These things never fucking die, goddamn

>> No.3377886

>>3377884
the healing drones probably don't help

>> No.3377887

>>3377886
Oh, so that's what those do

>> No.3377906

>it's a [doomworld username here] post

>> No.3377907

>>3377878
that just sounds like a hippie name, like Liberty or Peace, that kind of shit.

>> No.3377914

>>3377906
>it's a thegamephilosophe post
>it's a cacockcansukmycok post
>it's a sgt. mark iv.post
>it's a rileymartin post
>it's a azuruish post

>> No.3377917

>>3377907

I believe his mother was described in Masters of Doom as being basically a hippie, so you probably aren't far off there.

>> No.3377918

>it's a post

>> No.3377925 [DELETED] 

>>3377918

>it's a

>> No.3377929
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3377929

AND THEN A SKELETON POPPED OUT

>> No.3377930 [DELETED] 

>>3377925
>it's

>> No.3377931 [DELETED] 

>>3377930
>it

>> No.3377932
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>> No.3377934 [DELETED] 

>>3377931
>>

>> No.3377937
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3377937

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BerC79uxPnM

>> No.3377938

>>3377930
>monty python's flying circus

>> No.3377942 [DELETED] 

>>3377934
>

>> No.3377948 [DELETED] 

>>3377942

>> No.3377950 [DELETED] 

>>337794

>> No.3377951

Dumb idea I had for a Mech Mod that can keep the feeling of a mech, but still keep it compatible with most map sets;
The player's height is taller, but by crouching, the top of the mech "folds" down, the cockpit going between the legs and the weapons fitting beside them, letting you use treads. This would also make you the height of the regular Doom marine.

>> No.3377952 [DELETED] 

>>33779

>> No.3377954

>>3377951
some maps don't let you crouch by default and you have to go to fiddle with options

you can't jump while crouched and crouch jumping in doom is pretty hard

>> No.3377956
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3377956

Feels like ages since it was cool to hate on Barney the Purple Dinosaur. It's a trip to dig thru mods and see Beavis and Butthead, Mega Man and other long-dead icons crystallized in the time capsules of Doom mods.

>> No.3377957

>>3377951
This is a cool idea.

But what would you do for ZDoom maps that require crouching?

>> No.3377959 [DELETED] 

>>3377

>> No.3377961

>>3377954
True, but it's better than having it not be compatible at all, and most maps don't have jumping.
>>3377957
I don't know, maybe you could just have a mode where the player can get out of the mech, and can call it back later?

>> No.3377962 [DELETED] 

>>337

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>>337

>> No.3377967

>>3377961
Turn into a compact ball that rolls around, maybe with the capability to drop bombs to defend against flanking attacks but with little real offensive capability.

>> No.3377968
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>>3377951
>the cockpit going between the legs

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>>33

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>>3377937

>> No.3377975

>>3377967
Hmmmm, morphing into a ball? It'll never catch on.

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>>3377974

>> No.3377978

Why does Plutonia reuse Doom 1/2's soundtrack when they made a whole bunch of new ones for TNT?

>> No.3377981

>>3377978
Time restraints, I guess. TNT was being worked on before the guys at Id picked it up, while Plutonia was made specifically for Final Doom.
And hey, fine by me, half the fun of Hunted was the music choice.
However, if you would like a new soundtrack, check this out;
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/music/plutmidi
I'm personally a fan of the first level's music.

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>>3

>> No.3377989
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3377989

PAH PAH PAH PAH PAH

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>> No.3377997

Just finished BTSX:E1 with D4D on Nightmare, was a blast!
Any suggestions on what I should do next? Would like a break from BTSX, so I'd rather not follow up with Episode 2. I'm thinking Scythe 2, Valiant, or Ancient Aliens.

>> No.3378000

>>3377997
Valiant is pretty good. Make sure to get the Vaccinated version if you want to use D4D with it.

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>> No.3378016

>>3377989
not a fan of that tilting
halve it and make it pop out from both sides?

>> No.3378021

>>3374548
Best megawad?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10426064

>> No.3378025

>>3378021
How many times are you going to post this?

>> No.3378026

>>3378025

3,729 more times before he's done.

>> No.3378034

>>3378025
How many times are you going to respond to that?

>> No.3378035

it's basically spam at this point

mod come back, you missed a post to bin

>> No.3378045

sorry this isnt strictly /vr/ but i was curious to know what this generals opinion on Devil Daggers?

>> No.3378048
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>>3378045
it's great

been meaning to beat my personal best [of 270 seconds :3]

>> No.3378054

>>3378045
It's aesthetics are fantastic, like an even grimier Quake. Would be nice if it was actually a retro style FPS instead of a survival gauntlet though.

>> No.3378065

>>3378045

good. im ok without a single player story but they should add some type of multiplayer

>> No.3378072
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>>3377409

I'm keeping my promise.

>> No.3378085

>>3377861
why not

>> No.3378086
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3378086

Hellbound is pretty fun with D4D, but damn a LOT of these maps should be DN3D maps instead. It's like they were thought for DN3D really.

Also
>double double barrel shotgun

>> No.3378089

>>3378086
I couldn't be bothered getting past the first couple levels of Hellbound. It was confusing, but it looked nice.

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3378102

Just taking a few minutes to remind you all of what the Cyberdemon's face looks like.

>> No.3378103

>>3378102
Not particularly a looker ain't he.

>> No.3378104
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>>3378103
He's like some sort of adult Eraserhead baby.

>> No.3378110
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3378110

And might as well post the scrapped Doom64 Cyberdemon.

“More from DOOM 64 - this one is my take on the Cyberdemon. I think it did not make the final game. In hindsight I would change up the proportions quite a bit, and frankly sculpting mech stuff was very difficult for me in clay, doing mech stuff now is so much easier in the computer..”

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>> No.3378120

>next Quake map jam is going to be base-themed

Well, I guess it has to happen sooner or later, but I still hate it.

>> No.3378158

>>3378120
Quake bases are a pet love of mine. I like the textures and the music track all the first base levels used in base Quake.

>> No.3378184

Guys remember that good weapon mod? Me neither.

>> No.3378190

>>3378184
polished skull

>> No.3378196
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3378196

>>3378184
DoomRLA

Come on, do you have amnesia, bruh?

>> No.3378259

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnpsieSWcAE8b13.jpg:large

a person of magnificence he is

>> No.3378262

>>3377907
>>3377878
His mom was a hippie lunatic:
>starts dating a transgender man one day
>eventually American comes home to an empty house, because his mom sold everything they owned, including the house and most of American's stuff, to fund a plane trip and her boyfriends sex change operation
>American is left on his own
I don't even know if he was 18 by this point

>> No.3378263

>>3378120
we should make our own map jam, with shamblers and blackjack

>> No.3378273

>>3378089
>>3378086
I really loved HellBound up until around map 20 where it began being more monsters than was actually fun, so I quit sometime after that.

Also I heard the last map was basically unplayable on GZDoom because of how overly detailed it is.

>> No.3378276

DogVision.pk3

http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/RnKLGlGg/file.html

Play Doom as a Dog.

>> No.3378283

Has there been a greater autistic meltdown over a port of a 23 year old engine?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=52909&p=927399#p927277

>> No.3378290

>>3378283
probably yeah, we've had 23 years

>> No.3378298

>>3378283
Carnevil when Skulltag tried to move to a different hosting service.

>> No.3378313

>>3378283
The guy also posted a ridiculously long spiel in the Zandronum forums "It Gets Better" sticky thread from three years ago, but it seems like it got deleted when he was permabanned. I probably should have screengrabbed it, but it was like black ice for the mind - my eyes just skidded off down the page and wrapped themselves around a tree.

>> No.3378319

>>3378283
>Death Scripts
Didn't this come up in here a while ago? Wouldn't this be a REALLY fucking useful feature? Why is Graf being such a faggot about it?

>> No.3378320
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3378320

>D:RLA

>get a nuclear bfg

>get nuclear armor in the next map plus a bulk mod for the bfg

RIP difficulty I hardly knew ya.

>> No.3378327

>>3378319
It's not about the feature itself, but about how it was programmed.

As much as Graf is bagged on, he at least cares about consistently developing the engine on a regular basis, and from the looks of things the way this was implemented would have likely caused headaches him later. This has happened in the past, with things like portals and flat sprites, and what did the programmers do? They reimplemented them with Graf's co-operation without exploding into a white dwarf of internet rage.

>> No.3378330

>>3378319
he probably thinks that the way it's implemented will cause issues down the line. leonard2 pointed out some issues as well. he didn't seem outright opposed to the idea, just the suggested implementation.

you ever read about bug finding in dwarf fortress? some code added years ago creates weird shit in a new update and it takes weeks to figure out what's interacting to make it happen. http://www.pcgamer.com/how-cats-get-drunk-in-dwarf-fortress-and-why-its-creators-havent-figured-out-time-travel-yet/

>> No.3378345

>>3378283
Doesn't matter, nothing does. Nothing ever will.

Not like it'll matter if this gets in or not, I'll be dead in a few weeks anyway. Like everything else I do, this fell to shit. A failure, like myself.

Website: http://depressionlonelinessandsuffering.com/

may you know peace in the next life

>> No.3378394

>>3378283
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/868002

>> No.3378398

>>3378394
>but it will probably never be as good as something rewritten from scratch like he is proposing.
was his proposal "rewrite the engine"

>> No.3378406

>>3377956
What wad(s)?

>> No.3378414

>>3378406
the map looks like evil_e.wad
with those sprites, it might be mr smileys safari adventure

>> No.3378435
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3378435

Hey guys I'm reading a Powerpoint (can be viewed with LibreOffice's Impress instead for less bullshit) about Halo 3's effects from the FX Lead (and later Senior FX Artist) at Bungie, Steve Scott. https://web.archive.org/web/20120504011541/http://www.bungie.net/images/Inside/publications/presentations/halo3_fx.zip

If I see something cool, I'll share it here.

Here's something cool for fire effects:

>Simply fading alpha at the end of a fire particle’s life makes the fire seem bland and ‘gassy’
>We solved this by adding a control to crush the black point of the alpha channel
>This technique proved to be invaluable for other effects in the game
>-Water
>-Dirt
>-Explosions
>Bitmaps had to be authored with this purpose in mind. (Make textures that look good when this effect is used)

If you aren't familiar with the effect, here's an animation. As you can see, the "flame" gets smaller and still has a clear form.

I don't know how to do this in (G)ZDoom just yet aside from changing the translation every frame, but you can easily do it in GIMP, Photoshop, or anything else with a Levels or Curves tool. Just drag the black level forward so the blacks and dark greys get clipped and do this a little more each time for each frame. This GIF moves the black point forward by 17 each frame.

>> No.3378453

>>3378320
>Eternal Doom Map01
>Play Technician
>Find Nuclear Onslaught and Cerberus Boots
>Find Nuclear Armor and Sniper Mod later on
>Win everything
Wish I still had that save...

>> No.3378457
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>>3378435
All or most of the muzzle flashes use the same bitmap texture, but with different palettes or gradient maps as opposed to simply tinting them a colour. This allowed them to create some varied colour textures and alter the shape somewhat by making the greys the white point and the whites and blacks the black point, as well as keep the texture count low--only a few high-res greyscale images and dozens of tiny palettes.

Not incredibly important for Doom since our use of gradients for translation is limited to two points, but you could do it with several translations in the Textures lump or use the idea to create new assets in your image editor of preference.

>> No.3378458

>>3378435
>>3378457
Thanks for these, it's always interesting to see how the sausage is made.

>> No.3378465
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>>3378435
For fireballs they stopped using "flipbooks" (pre-rendered movies of explosions) and instead used two textures: One for, well, texture I suppose, and another for the alpha.

A section of the "Base Plate" texture (as in bitmap) which has the lumpy smoke texture (as in the feel, appearance, or consistency of a surface or a substance) is scrolled through while the Alpha texture defines the transparency of the section.

This would be easy to do in Photoshop, just get your lumpy smoke texture, put a cloud particle as the mask, unlink them so that they can move independently, create a frame animation, create a new frame in the frame animation, move the lumpy texture, select both frames, and click interpolate.

This should also be possible in Textures (to an extent) using an inverted alpha texture (Transparency is white instead of black) and the Subtract blend mode which creates a sort of Multiply effect. Of course, with this method you'll only get a transprency effect if you set the actor to Additive blend mode which isn't the best for explosions since you want the explosion to have an opaqueness to it. You may be able to create some fantastic explosion effects using only Textures and vanilla assets.

I'll attempt a GIF example in the next post.

>> No.3378468
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>>3378435
>>3378457
That's actually quite nifty.

>>3378458
I like a good pork sausage.

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3378478

>>3378465
Bear in mind that this is only one particle, several of these spawn and move and twirl and spin and fade.

>> No.3378484

>>3377834
It's not John by itself.

It's the fact that there's two Johns, AND one of them also has the same last name as someone else

It's just slightly disorienting, and then you run into the names like "Sandy Peterson" and "American McGee"

>> No.3378489
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>>3378465
>>3378478
Sorry, the Powerpoint wasn't animating the video and I came to a wrong conclusion. While some particles do this in other games, and I've seen scrolling textures under masks used for smoke effects in lowres games, the actual example given involves using two sections of the lumpy texture and fading between them while scaling the lumps up, creating a billowing effect.

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>>3378435
The Powerpoint also breaks down the Scarab explosion from Halo 3 into 3 parts: Fireball, Sparks & Debris, and Screen Effect.

The Fireball is a large flash that goes away very quickly, there are light beams, and billowing fireballs and smoke using >>3378489 >>3378465 >>3378435 and it was all paletted to the Covenant Tech with this concept >>3378457

>> No.3378513

>>3378320
>>3378453
what's this then
sounds interesting

>> No.3378519
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>>3378507
The Sparks & Debris section:

>Lots and lots of sparks
>-Collision detection is expensive! You only need a few colliding particles to sell it. (In (G)ZDoom it would be just a bounce flag I think)

>Mesh particles (I believe this is just very simple 3D shapes without physics)
>-Simple mesh particles cheaper than real physics objects

>Streaming particles (Particles with a particle trail)
>-Contrail attached to a particle (The particle trail attached to the particle)
>-Secondary effect on collision with the ground (Sparks fly off when it impacts, etc)

>> No.3378536
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>>3378519
The Screen Effect section:

>Controls exposure, gamma and tint (Brightness, contrast, and colour. Easiest method for (G)ZDoom may just be overlaying the screen with a translucent colour.)
>Falloff of influence based on distance, angle and event duration
>Explosion dry without screen effects!

This is just for big effects mind you, the screen didn't go blue when a plasma grenade went off at 5 metres.

>> No.3378537

>>3378513
DoomRL Arsenal, a mod that takes mechanics and content from the Doom Roguelike and reimplements it in Doom, the FPS. Doesn't quite capture the feeling of a roguelike (try Hideous Destructor if you want that), but there's a ton of guns and armors and a cool weapon modding system, so if you're into that sort of stuff then it's the mod for you.

>> No.3378540

>>3378537
>Try Hideous Destructor if you want that
way ahead of ya

>> No.3378545

>>3378072
>The crystals charge vertically
Ayyy

>> No.3378552
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>>3378536
>All components working together
>Small explosions build to a crescendo
>Don’t forget Audio! Effects and Audio go hand in hand (Say boom when the WEBM flashes with the screen effect)

>>3378435
The section titled Major Engine Challenges may be very important for us.

Apparently the 360 was utter shit at overdraw (transparency) so they overcame this by
>Using less particles that went away faster (We can also fill out some actor particles with the basic ZDoom particles)
>Near fade LOD on particles (You only get the full particle experience up close, from a distance you just see the big pieces)
>Screen effect

They were also limited to 256 effects happening at once. They solved this by:
>Scaling back content (Less effects)
>Impact effects set to reset within a certain radius (If one explosion is playing, and another is to start by it, the other one stops and the new one starts)
>Priority system implemented late in the process (More important effects get rendered, less important effects get chucked. Importance determined by distance and relevance to the player.)

>> No.3378560
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>>3378435
Some general game development process stuff.

>Effects are an organic process
>-Leave room in the schedule to iterate on tools or resolve unexpected problems
>-Sometimes the solutions to specific problems can open up new cool opportunities across the board.
>Try to have a dedicated effects engineer
>-Sharing an engineer with other critical systems resulted in loss of momentum when pulled away, especially during crunch time

>The sooner Effects is integrated into the process the better the end result will be (Effects and assets made with each other in mind rather than effects as an afterthought)
>Don’t underestimate the effect that a solid plan and a solid pipeline can have on your production time when it counts.
>-The Scarab explosion was done in a day!

The debris spray can be handled with one image that has like 10 chunks on it, so can the light beams. Group things together whenever possible.

>> No.3378636

>>3378283

Friend, let me introduce you to a guy called Littletemple.

>> No.3378637

>>3378560
dude, dont post that pic, doom 4 isnt retro

>> No.3378667

>>3378636
I don't remember this story. Please proceed, governor.

>> No.3378682

>>3378667
i don't know it either but i found this nine page thread which i didn't care to read
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/62984-little-doomlings-still-exist-demon-laden-vanilla-wad/

>> No.3378690

>>3378072

Those crystals look good but them charging from right to left is triggering my autism.

>> No.3378752
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3378752

What does Slimer even fucking do?

He slimes, alright, I get that, but like what else?

In a stupid action game what is his purpose? Brand recognition? A reason to add splorch sounds? Vore?

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3378761

>Implying you wouldn't

>> No.3378773
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3378773

Realized I had the hemi light up too high and specular shouldn't have been on. The light bouncing off of the white background would be too diffused for speculars.

>> No.3378795
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3378795

I don't know if I like or hate this turd-shaped vore-ghost.

>> No.3378804

>>3378761

https://a.pomf.cat/onionn.mp4

>> No.3378864
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3378864

>megawad uses Nazis as regular enemies

why?

>> No.3378894

>>3378864
Give an example

>> No.3378897

>>3378864
>megawad replaces nazis with plasma marines and efreets and uses them as regular enemies
not this shit again

>> No.3378906

>>3378283
Wasn't StrikerMan870 the same guy that had a Fuck huge HQ map filled up the brim with 3d models, hi-res textures and furry porn?

I kinda expected such a reaction from someone like him honestly.

>> No.3378907

>>3378894
Garrulo.wad
Nazis are used plentifully and placed alongside other hitscanners as if they're fellow zombies. I thought there was a .deh patch I was supposed to load with it, but nope. The mapper just put fucking nazis in there to take the piss.

>> No.3378915

>>3378283
>Strikerman used to be a regular on Skulltag/Z&
>had an autistic meltdown and got banned
>Moved over to the Zdoom forums
>had another autistic meltdown and got banned

What's next in Strikerman's journey? Doomworld or /vr/?

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>> No.3378926

>>3378394
how in fuck's name did gzdoom become anywhere near as inescapable as it did with this shitheel as the sole maintainer

>> No.3378928

>>3378926
he was never really going to get rid of the engine he spent years coding for other people to use, just fucking with people like usual.

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3378930

oops proper image this time

>>3378906

yes.
he actually threw another fit on irc yesterday, threatening suicide and such, before terminus talked him out of it

then he went and posted this and asked to be b&
which he did
and then changed his profile to this

http://forum.zdoom.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1456

>> No.3378937

>>3378930

Fucking furries, I swear.

>> No.3378938
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3378938

Just finished D4D with BD's Starterpack. What are some other good maps that make use of Zdoom features but don't have, or have as little as possible, custom enemies?

>> No.3378941

>>3378930
>The board requires you to be registered and logged in to view profiles.
what a dick move

>> No.3378943
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>>3378941

don't worry, famicom, i gotcha covered

>Location: In a dead-end shithole.
>Occupation: Struggling not to blow my own fucking brains out on a day-to-day basis.
>Interests: Nothing. Everything just pisses me off these days, just like how I seem to piss off everyone else.
>Website: http://depressionlonelinessandsuffering.com

basically if this was a serious suicide threat it would be something to worry about but i'm 90% sure it's an attention grab

>> No.3378946

>>3378930
Fucking hell. Didn't expect him to have that many issues. But the whole "Mental health care is a joke" bit really makes me wanna snap the guy's neck honestly. Fuck people like him that constantly whine about shit, and then reject everything that could probably fix their problems.

A shame, cause I really kind of liked his map in a way.

>> No.3378950

>>3378943
>Occupation: Struggling not to blow my own fucking brains out on a day-to-day basis.

Same here, but I won't take it out on others, and throw a hissy fit because someone rejects an idea I had.

>> No.3378958

On a much mentally stable note, the IDKFA remixes have been released.

Yadda yadda, I'm on mobile, 3%, I can't link.

>> No.3378963

>>3378930
This guy's a whiny, basic bitch.

Someone needs to tell him to put the knife away, the dumb shit. Suicide isn't going to help anything.
If he knows he has a problem, he needs to grow the fuck up, stop pissing on other people and go do something about it.

Life is a gift, even for a beta shitstain like that. Toying with it, even for depression, is fucking hideous.

>> No.3378981

where the fuck are the tenebrae data files
every download of the engine refuses to package them and it's starting to freak me out

>> No.3378982

>>3378958
You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGK1dr-Ql0w

gotcha covered

>> No.3378986

>>3378981
http://www.mediafire.com/download/00j4i53deqov8pk/tenebrae.zip it's right here dude

>> No.3378987

>>3378930
>>3378943
So what's his IP?
We might be able to trace a location from that, and then call a medical center near him.

>> No.3378998

>>3378987
idk about that

this irc channel i used to go to had a depressed guy, who had some other issues but right now the star of the show is depression, and he said he was going to kill himself. the channel owner knew where the guy lived and his number, so he called the police and said that this guy was going to kill himself.

now no one can verify this, but according to the depressed guy the police came, kicked his door down, raided his home, and he was never even going to do it in the first place. and supposedly he couldn't stay in his own home for months because he was scared of it being invaded.

he was also a manipulative cocksucker so take it with a grain of salt

>> No.3379012

>>3378938
Hell Grounds has custom imps but only later in the game

>> No.3379023

Was there a monster replacement mod that made stronger monsters spawn the further into a mapset you were? It's not doomrl monsters, is it?

>> No.3379038

>>3379023
Project Brutality has dynamic progression but no real replacements

>> No.3379059

>>3374548
Interview with Romero on Quake's level design

https://qexpo2016.com/tronyn-interviews-john-romero/

>> No.3379068

>>3378986
i meant the decade-old quake tenebrae - the one there's a (broken) link to on the "so you want to play some quake" image
all the downloads i can find seem to suggest it has a custom pak0.pak which isn't included

>> No.3379090

New thread >>3379085

>> No.3379139

>>3378690

They're japanese style

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>>3375459
More human is better. The more it looks like a monster(girl) it looks like an abortion.

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3379161

>>3375434
>Futa

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3379226

>>3378937
don't you put that shit on me

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3380570

ooooh. glowy axe.

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3380581

Ooooh, my hand glows.

>> No.3380584

>>3380581
>>3380570
why are you not in the new thread

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3380585

>>3380581
Also the mage guy should really cut his nails


you would think with all that magic they had they could at least create magic nail clippers.

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