Nintendo Mini NES coming 11/11

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Nintendo Mini NES coming 11/11 Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:15:37 2016 No.3358749 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts?
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/753559995849990144

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:17:21 2016 No.3358753 File: 78 KB, 1032x680, nes mini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No price known yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:23:16 2016 No.3358759 So it's like the Colecovision Flashback? Guess it all depends on how it runs but I don't see any real reason to buy it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:26:38 2016 No.3358762 File: 29 KB, 400x400, CdGo1xf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this real fucking life?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:27:00 2016 No.3358763

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Classic-Mini/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-112428

Games included
Balloon Fight BUBBLE BOBBLE Castlevania™
Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest™ Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr.
DOUBLE DRAGON II: THE REVENGE Dr. Mario Excitebike
FINAL FANTASY® Galaga™ GHOSTS‘N GOBLINS™
GRADIUS™ Ice Climber Kid Icarus
Kirby’s Adventure Mario Bros. MEGA MAN™ 2
Metroid NINJA GAIDEN® PAC-MAN™
Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream StarTropics SUPER C™
Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 2 Super Mario Bros. 3
Tecmo Bowl™ The Legend of Zelda Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:27:06 2016 No.3358764 They will sell original brand new NES controllers with it? Thats awesome!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:27:46 2016 No.3358768 place ya bets laddies My guess: >ARM-powered emulator box with no chance of updating

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:28:02 2016 No.3358771 >>3358753 >brand new official NES controllers >>3358749 >weird proprietary connectors A-adapters when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:29:46 2016 No.3358773 Cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:29:57 2016 No.3358774 >>3358749 Everything else aside, this would make an awesome case for a dedicated emulation box. Just rip out its guts and replace them with a SBC or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:30:32 2016 No.3358775 >>3358768 http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Classic-Mini/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1124287.html Yeah looks like it, its USB powered, its some fucking raspberry pi inside this shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:30:55 2016 No.3358776 >paying for ROMs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:30:59 2016 No.3358778 I can see this selling like absolute gangbusters if they market it properly. Like, 20M+ by the end of the year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:32:06 2016 No.3358779 >>3358776 >paying for EPROMS inside a plastic container wewwerino

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:32:11 2016 No.3358780 Can't wait till it gets hacked so we can install our own perfect collection in it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:32:31 2016 No.3358781 SNES mini next?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:34:28 2016 No.3358783 >>3358749 Finally, the retro bubble is starting to pop.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:34:41 2016 No.3358785
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>>3358778
You're probably right... Like, this is just for the general public not even people that play vidya.

Have you seen how big Pokemon Go blew up? I never realized it was possible for so many secondaries to exist for such a mainstream game.... It's disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:35:45 2016 No.3358787 It'd be even better if there was an ability to play your existing NES games. Then they could reproduce carts and sell them at $20-$30 a pop, people would buy them in droves.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:36:54 2016 No.3358789

>>3358753
$59.99

>>3358749
It's cool I guess, but you can technically get an original NES for that price. Maybe this will drive the price down?

That being said the controller is neat, and it will work on the WiiU/Wii.

Only thing I'm worried about is that it will be a glorified emulation box. Nintendo's NES emulation has been absolute shit. I'll wait for reviews to come out so I can know for sure if there's any horrendous input lag, or if they decided to use that stupid vaseline dark filter again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:43:55 2016 No.3358797 I love retro games, but this retro gaming buble is pure cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:44:05 2016 No.3358798 >>3358749 Need more information on how it works and what its features are. Right now I'm betting it's emulator garbage. Looks like bait for entry level hipsters.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:44:20 2016 No.3358801

>>3358787
The original chips for the NES weren't manufactured by Nintendo so it's unlikely they could reproduce the original hardware. I guess they could make a shitty clone box, but that'd ultimately just be emulation that puts wear on your original cartridges and thus absolute shit. Also, I doubt Nintendo wants to limit their market to the minority of a minority of people who still own NES carts.

Would be cool if this turns out to be a decent "official" emulator and people figure out how to flash the entire NES library onto it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:47:59 2016 No.3358804
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>>3358789
>$59.99
No chance against Famiclones.
Though, I might be wrong, because NINTENDO is written on it.
New controllers are ultra neat though, wish they sell SNES controllers as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:49:10 2016 No.3358805 >>3358801 >The original chips for the NES weren't manufactured by Nintendo But they might have original drawings and circuits.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:53:27 2016 No.3358808

>>3358805
Unlikely. Even if they did, they don't own the rights to them. They'd have to negotiate with the rights holders. Doubt it'd even be worth it to them, the cost would be pretty high to set up the manufacturing equipment to reproduce antique chips when they could just do it in software and 99.9% of people wouldn't know or care.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:54:03 2016 No.3358810 >>3358801 Doesn't seem like the thing will be able to play cartridges anyways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:54:48 2016 No.3358812 >>3358804 Are you kidding? Throw some commercials up on Adult Swim and ESPN and at $59.99 they'll be backordered for months and going on eBay for $300+

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:00:27 2016 No.3358816 >>3358808 The Patents have run out on those chips years ago. Anyone can make them now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:02:16 2016 No.3358818 >>3358749 I think it will sell. And I think I will not buy one. >>3358771 So? It's not like there's a shortage of actual NES controllers...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:08:04 2016 No.3358824 going full mobile wasn't enough, now they need to shill their shitty nes games that everyone besides nintendrones are tired of

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:08:58 2016 No.3358826 >>3358749 >caring about plug n' plays

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:10:04 2016 No.3358827 Looks cute, but im better off with an actual NES and Raspberry pi for rare or fantranslated games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:17:08 2016 No.3358838 It's probably going to be an emulator, it would be amazing if they used the original schematics but I doubt it considering the manufacturing costs. The controller ports are the ones they use for the classic controllers I believe.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:22:08 2016 No.3358845
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Seems like something of a cash grab for easy money, but it does have a nice lineup of preinstalled games. $60 is a bit much for a novelty, especially a plug n' play, so I hope there's a means of being able to play more games on it.

>>3358838
>The controller ports are the ones they use for the classic controllers I believe.

That's correct, of which there are two of. The SNES-like one with analog sticks and the other with grips that notably came with MH3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:29:50 2016 No.3358853 >>3358810 It doesn't really need too. As long as there is a way to load roms onto it should be good. If it actually has hardware designed to run and upscale games with minimal input lag, then I'll consider buying one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:32:51 2016 No.3358854 >>3358753 sixty for the unit with one controller, and ten for an additional controller

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:33:08 2016 No.3358856 >>3358749 Memory specs?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:33:37 2016 No.3358857

AAAAAHHHHH look at that little thing. Im gonna sell my regular old crapola nintedo and buy one of them little things. oh god this is abot the happiest ive ever been in my life. I'm gonna buy abot 5 of em and stick em on the shelf. And if some ass hole comes over and wants to play i'll sock em and tell em to go get there own!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:36:27 2016 No.3358861 I wonder if these are modified and re-purposed wii minis with virtual console games preloaded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:39:46 2016 No.3358871 >>3358861 I doubt it since it's USB powered. Need a little bit more than that for a Wii.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:40:51 2016 No.3358874 >>3358771 >A-adapters when? just hope the shell and buttons can be swaped with og pcb controller. Although I wonder why they didn't when with the dogbone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:44:33 2016 No.3358881 >>3358749 hold up so where do u put the carts? and it looks like u cant use original nes controller since they changed the plugs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:45:41 2016 No.3358884 >>3358874 >I wonder why they didn't go with the dogbone Probably because it's not as iconic, honestly. Can't appeal to nostalgia with the dogbone for most people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:52:34 2016 No.3358894 >>3358881 It says nowhere you can so I think you can't

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 09:55:14 2016 No.3358898 >>3358881 Look at the size of it. Obviously it doesn't accept carts.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:07:16 2016 No.3358909

Can someone explain to me why they don't do this properly? Like, with a NES-on-a-chip, a real cartridge slot, real controller ports and composite out with HDMI optional. Wouldn't that be more popular with the retro hipsters? I understand that it's expensive to start producing all those parts again, but surely economies of scale would bring the price back down. I might even consider buying one. They could still compete with plug-and-play consoles, but they'd have an extra niche to sell to. It would be like the Sega Genesis 3.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:10:23 2016 No.3358916
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>>3358771
Looks like classic controllers they're just classic controllers.

Cool idea. I'd actually be more inclined to buy a Japanese version. I always thought the OG Famicom was qt, but it's still a bit less functional than other revisions of the hardware.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:11:50 2016 No.3358920

>>3358909
This is not meant for people like us. It is meant for people like Colecovision and Atari Flashback. Just a cheap all in one system filled with games people have fond memories for. For the kinds of people that want to replay them but don't want to spend all that money buying all those carts.

Personally the only thing that would get me to buy it if I learned M2 had a hand in it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:15:35 2016 No.3358925 >>3358920 >If I learned M2 had a hand in it I would to actually if that was the case, tthey always are really good at porting things and always add nice extras to things like with the Sega 3D classics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:16:55 2016 No.3358926 So basically Nintendo is trying to enter in the market of cheaply made NESclones? I guess it's ok when Nintendo does it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:18:49 2016 No.3358928

>>3358920
Yes, but it could be for both groups of people if they did it right. The type of people who buy a system like this for nostalgia aren't going to not buy it if it's more authentic. If they want to ship it with games, they could have some games built in and sell others on brand new carts. It actually seems pretty strange that they sell the controllers separately but not the games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:22:52 2016 No.3358936 >>3358909 Supporting the original carts is not realistic... they aren't going to manufacture those again. But NES on a chip would be awesome if it provides a 100% authentic reproduction. I have my doubts about emulators.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:26:47 2016 No.3358939 Why didn't they put the whole fucking library and add SNES to it if they are just making an emulation box?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:26:47 2016 No.3358940

>>3358928
Seem it comes with one controller. Guessing the second is being sold separately mostly for people that want to buy it for their Wii U VC. And I wish I could play my carts in it too. Just saying that I feel Nintendo doesn't think the extra cost is worth it. They wanted this to be made as cheap as they could.

Personally what I wish they did was have a system that plays carts and also play VC games. Feel that would have been a better thing for people.
>>3358936
This is why the only way I would even think of touching one is if M2 did the emulation. They have shown that they are the best in the business and can do wonderful things with emulation. But sadly I'm going to guess this is going to be a cheap Android emulation.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:28:54 2016 No.3358942
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>>3358928
I think that's too much for them, they only want to sell a console and controllers. If they sold individual games it'd be more work, like adding a whole new library for them to distribute like a Wii U. or maybe I'm just talking shit. Regardless, who knows if the individual games would sell when Virtual console exists. I doubt the newer generation would be interested in buying the carts, unless people want the feeling of inserting an NES cart in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:30:46 2016 No.3358946 Buying it, absolutely buying it. If it does well we might see SNES or N64's as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:31:17 2016 No.3358949 Are they also releasing a Famicom version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:31:20 2016 No.3358950 >>3358749 >mini gameboy DMG >mini N64 Day one buy if they do this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:32:59 2016 No.3358953 >>3358950 >mini gameboy DMG What for?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:33:12 2016 No.3358954 >>3358764 but the cable doesn't hook up to an actual NES though. It's a nunchuck/pro controller cord that you can attach to a wiimote. But the controller itself looks exactly like the NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:34:57 2016 No.3358958 Is there a emulator box that I can plug at tv and play all kinds of roms I download.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:35:30 2016 No.3358960 >>3358954 Fuck, well if the controllers are the same as originals (minus the cable) there will probably be Wii to NES adapter I guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:35:54 2016 No.3358961 >>3358953 Cute pocket games. Actually I just want to own one that isn't yellow or scratched to fuck.

>>	Nintengod Thu Jul 14 10:35:56 2016 No.3358962 >>3358953 What is gameboy pocket

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:36:31 2016 No.3358964 >>3358958 Yeah a raspberry pi 2 / 3 with retropie on it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:40:00 2016 No.3358965 >le 60$ meme Where's the source? That sounds like extremely unrealistic.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:40:59 2016 No.3358968

>>3358749
I'll wait to see some footage, the Wii U nes emulator makes the games look dreary and awful, and the input lag is awful.

If it has a great picture and feels good I will definitely get one, I would also be keen on stuffing a raspberry pi in the shell and using it as a portable emulator box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:44:53 2016 No.3358976 >>3358965 http://www.usgamer.net/articles/now-youre-playing-with-teeny-tiny-power-nintendo-announces-retro-nes-console

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:46:05 2016 No.3358979 >>3358965 what, because it's so cheap? I would agree. That's also why it will literally print money

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:46:21 2016 No.3358980

>>3358946
64 would be nice, my pal 64 looks like hot dogshit on a modern screen and I can't even RGB mod it. though I don't know if there are even 30 games on the system that you would even want, and it would be a hard sell for them to market 64 pads separately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:46:49 2016 No.3358982 >>3358779 >using pdip instead of cdip Stay pleb youngling

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:47:14 2016 No.3358983 >>3358804 >wish they sell SNES controllers as well. I've got one. It was for sale for a limited time on the EU Nintendo stars reward thing, so one does exist. I haven't seen it anywhere since though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:48:40 2016 No.3358985 I'll definitely consider buying one just for the feeling of legit controllers vs the chinkshit ones that populate amazon and other places.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:52:37 2016 No.3358987 >>3358857 what the eff?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:54:09 2016 No.3358990 >>3358749 I will buy it depending on how easy it is to hack. only 30 games? shit I can save every nes game on my calculator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:57:46 2016 No.3358996 >>3358962 Anon didn't say about GBP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:58:33 2016 No.3358998 >>3358962 A 20 year old handheld system with an old blurry lcd.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 10:59:35 2016 No.3359000

>>3358749
holy shit

I'm definitely getting the NES Classic Controller to play NES games on the Wii Virtual Console.

Not sure about the actual NES Classic Console though. Will it output HDMI? Will it run NES games natively or use an emulator? How good will the emulator be? Can we play Light Gun games on it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:02:19 2016 No.3359003 >>3359000 From what we know Yes HDMI We don't know but people are guessing it's just emulation We haven't seen anything yet And there's no Light Gun games on it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:04:03 2016 No.3359006 >>3359000 Light gun games require a crt, so definitely not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:04:28 2016 No.3359009 I nearly had a heart palpitation until I realized this wasn't going to take carts and upscale them. Only Nintendo could release one of these turd systems and charge 100% more than Sega, Coleco, Atari, etc. do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:06:17 2016 No.3359013 Without slot for cartridges is only an emulation box meaningless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:10:51 2016 No.3359018 >>3359013 >i actually think using a card or not has anything to do with whether it's emulated or not lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:13:52 2016 No.3359021 Isn't the going rate for a NES around $50? Seems like a shitty price point to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:16:39 2016 No.3359031 >>3359021 A nes doesn't run on a modern tv. It's for casual fans who have some nostalgia, not for hardcore retro enthusiasts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:17:33 2016 No.3359032 >>3358753 I would pay as much as $10 for one. Maybe $15 if it was complete with box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:18:26 2016 No.3359037 >>3359021 >Seems like a shitty price point to me. Games are included

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:19:34 2016 No.3359038 It's a literal hipster box. fucking yuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:19:50 2016 No.3359040 >>3359037 >free ROMs are included Shill

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:20:48 2016 No.3359043 >>3359037 It's decade old games you can find easily on the internet. That's hardly the expensive part for whoever made it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:31:49 2016 No.3359053 >>3358980 >pal 64 looks like hot dogshit on a modern screen and I can't even RGB mod it. Why not? http://etim.net.au/shop/shop.php?crn=209

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:36:14 2016 No.3359060 >>3358749 I GUARANTEE this will cause real NES consoles to balloon in price. I'm talking $200+ for a working machine with cables. Grab a few while you still can you can make some moola.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:41:39 2016 No.3359071 >>3359060 They cost $150 in australia already. I dont even use mine but dont want to sell it in case i want another one. I paid that for my fucking famicom mini.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:42:41 2016 No.3359073 >>3359060 speaking of which, if it isn't too much to ask how much do Famicoms go for these days?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:46:58 2016 No.3359083

>>3359060
Legit consoles will eventually become incredibly rare because people destroy or mod them for stupid reasons

http://www.instructables.com/id/NES-flash-drive-and-USB-port/?ALLSTEPS

I think at some point when the original consoles become uncommon enough the market will get flooded with famiclones again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:48:47 2016 No.3359087 So it's a plug and play?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:50:35 2016 No.3359089 File: 122 KB, 960x731, shittttt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359083 That's the dumbest thing I've seen this week. I can't even, what

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:52:37 2016 No.3359096 >30 NES games built-in That's all very nice and stuff, but no-one is talking about whether it'll actually have other titles and if so how they'll be handled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:54:53 2016 No.3359101 >>3358939 So they can sell another SNES emulator box some years later

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 11:58:12 2016 No.3359105 >>3358763 Not a bad list if games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:00:31 2016 No.3359112 File: 4 KB, 256x224, Legend_of_Zelda_NES[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3358763 > The Legend of Zelda Zelda II: The Adventure of Link > Not Legend Of Zelda

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:01:22 2016 No.3359113

I'm reading that it will get power from a USB port like a phone charger which leads me to think it will also be able to sync over USB to add more games which will probably be hacked toot sweet. It would be neat if there was another USB inside the cartridge slot and Nintendo sold mini NES cart shaped flash drives with games. Now that I look at it it's actually big enough that a laptop hard drive could slide in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:01:58 2016 No.3359114 >>3359112 That means they have both you twat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:02:26 2016 No.3359115 >>3359112 You're pretty dumb, huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:02:38 2016 No.3359117 >>3359112 They should call it The Hyrule Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:03:36 2016 No.3359118 >>3359083 what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:05:02 2016 No.3359123 >>3359113 >nintendo >supporting ROMs not gonna happen. And I bet the inside will be as hacker-unfriendly as possible, too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:06:32 2016 No.3359124 >>3359113 The data lines in the USB port will probably not be connected to anything as a precaution against hacking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:07:07 2016 No.3359125 File: 158 KB, 332x279, tumblr_oa4akhm90R1txla4mo1_400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359112 > The Legend of Zelda Zelda II: The Adventure of Link > THE LEGEND OF ZELDA, Zelda II: The Adventure of Link great job anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:08:12 2016 No.3359127 >>3359118 It's a waste of time, effort, money, an NES, an NES cartridge, a usb cable and a USB flash drive. But at least he made a tutorial about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:08:18 2016 No.3359128 >>3359112 Did you finish elementary school?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:08:25 2016 No.3359129 >>3358749 This seems perfect for my brother-in-law, actually.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:08:31 2016 No.3359130
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>>3359114
>>3359115
Alright, my mind is optimized to remove redundant words.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:09:07 2016 No.3359132

>>3359123
I'm sure their intention will be to sell them a la the virtual console - plug device into USB, go to Nintendo's site, input credit card information and install. However, nothing Nintendo has ever made was as hacker-unfriendly (aka "secure") as possible. Their model is just to make it EASY for people to get games LEGALLY and focus on that market which leaves plenty of room for us pirates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:09:51 2016 No.3359135 Oh god. i can see it now. resellers will buy these up and hoard them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:10:00 2016 No.3359136 File: 43 KB, 960x632, nes-classic-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it still better to get a Raspberry Pi 3 and turn that into a gaming emulator or get this instead for a little bit more?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:10:54 2016 No.3359138 >>3359124 Then why not just use a dipole adapter? No, my impression is that the device will be capable of having new games added by design.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:11:02 2016 No.3359139 >>3359136 Raspberry pi can emulate more than 30 NES games Hell, my MP3 player can emulate more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:11:03 2016 No.3359140 >>3359136 It's still better to use a real computer you already have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:12:04 2016 No.3359145 >>3359138 no-one mentioned that though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:12:09 2016 No.3359146 >>3359140 Well, a raspberry Pi is a lot more portable, much easier to get set up through your television.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:12:48 2016 No.3359149 >>3359136 It's best to use a Wii. I wouldn't even be surprised if this thing turns out to BE a Wii inside, or at least sharing a lot of the hardware. Look at the controller port FFS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:13:12 2016 No.3359150 File: 14 KB, 256x224, nesmockup[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359113 I'd like to see indie games there

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:13:12 2016 No.3359151
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>>3358781
>SNES mini next?

QUICK QUESTION..... do you guys think it will be possible to mod-replace the chip, and put a bigger one with the whole Nes library on it? just fucking imagine...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:13:46 2016 No.3359153 >>3359138 They're leaving the actual power adapter out likely to save money so using standard USB cables makes sense since everyone has at least one if not multiple USB chargers at this point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:13:50 2016 No.3359154 >>3359146 Not necessarily.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:13:57 2016 No.3359156 >>3358749 Great hand model. I bet that hand feels nicer than a vagina.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:14:06 2016 No.3359157 >>3359140 I want to make a home console though with added streaming functionality so I could play games in my living room. Also, how is the Pi not a real computer? It's not a piece of furniture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:14:18 2016 No.3359158 >>3359145 No one mentioned what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:14:52 2016 No.3359160 >>3359149 Wii hardware can't be powered by one USB port It's going to be a chinese smartphone SoC, maybe even running android

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:15:30 2016 No.3359161 >>3359149 I thought the Pi 3 was more powerful than the Wii though?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:15:42 2016 No.3359162 It will be just a 3ds with no screens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:15:55 2016 No.3359164 >>3359158 Additional games support

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:16:26 2016 No.3359165 >>3359150 what am I looking at?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:16:29 2016 No.3359167 >>3359160 Yeah that's true. USB is 5v Wii is 7.5 or 9 iirc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:16:37 2016 No.3359168 >>3359157 Because it's ARM and not x86. Otherwise phones and other shit would also be a real computer. If you want to play in your living room just get a long HDMI and USB cable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:17:03 2016 No.3359170 File: 1.66 MB, 460x432, 1468457275509.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359136 There is barely much known. You may not even be able to get new games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:17:27 2016 No.3359171 >>3359161 you're funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:17:36 2016 No.3359173 >>3359167 >implying that's the relevant bit

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:17:38 2016 No.3359174
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>>3359021
>Isn't the going rate for a NES around $50?
I've seen NES, even old as shit and battered to hell, go for no less than $158 and that's a fairly generous figure. I really want to get the top loader as it was what I remember playing the most, but it's just as expensive, if not moreso

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:18:09 2016 No.3359176 >>3359161 The Pi has better software.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:18:30 2016 No.3359178 >>3359168 >Because it's ARM and not x86 general purpose is general purpose. x86 is not something special (except maybe in how fucked up it is) >Otherwise phones and other shit would also be a real computer they are

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:18:39 2016 No.3359179 >>3359168 >a real computer MUST be x86 anon...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:19:15 2016 No.3359181 Is this HDMI only or can I connect it to my CRT?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:19:23 2016 No.3359182 File: 26 KB, 320x256, noteguru[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359165 http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/13847.htm >>3359173 >implying is retro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:19:41 2016 No.3359184 >>3359021 >>3359174 >tfw I bought mine for 5€ at a flea market, even came with that 3in1 cartridge and 4 controllers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:20:08 2016 No.3359185 >>3359179 >>3359178 You can't run Windows on anything else. Windows RT is a joke.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:20:13 2016 No.3359186 >>3359168 >Otherwise phones and other shit would also be a real computer. They compute data. They are computers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:20:27 2016 No.3359187 >>3358939 >Why didn't they put the whole fucking library so easy to spot the uneducated child... copyrights are... an extremely complex topic for you my summer friend... enjoy your stay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:20:51 2016 No.3359189 >>3359185 >You can't run Windows on anything else. >Windows is a joke. agreed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:21:46 2016 No.3359190 >>3358980 Two years now. That's how long Universal N64 RGB mods have been easily available.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:22:17 2016 No.3359191

>>3359164
That's why I said it was my impression based on it having a USB port

>>3359161
Yes, but a Wii comes with a lot more hardware for the same price (used) but if your original question was about power, I would assume the processing power of this thing will be relatively weak and its mod potential will be more limited so no - it would be dumb to scrap a current RPi3 project in favor of this novelty console.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:22:30 2016 No.3359193 >>3359182 You don't get it, do you Do you even know how electric current works >>3359185 NT runs on alpha, MIPS, PowerPC 2k, XP, 2003 run on itanium 8 runs on ARM 10 runs on ARM as windows mobile CE runs on even more shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:22:44 2016 No.3359194 >>3359186 So does a calculator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:22:48 2016 No.3359195 Sega did this already with the Atgames Genesis. That came with 80 games, used original genesis controllers, and even had a cartridge slot up top for original genesis games. This thing looks like a piece of shit, comparatively

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:22:54 2016 No.3359196

>>3359167
The important part is the total power output in Watts. 5V@2.2A(~11W) is supposedly enough to power a late model Wii
http://forums.modretro.com/index.php?threads/wii-board-revisions-guide.14059/

but running any power supply at 100% constantly is not a good idea. Maybe it's a wii mini with significantly improved power usage.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:23:00 2016 No.3359197

>>3359184
Most of those people that put a ridiculous price point on older home consoles know what they're going for and how to exploit every last cent out of the consumer. Tried to buy two PS1 games at the flea market once, Smackdown and Grand Turismo 2, but they guy wouldn't entertain any offer below twenty a piece because he had never seen them before and therefor deemed them "rare"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:23:27 2016 No.3359201 >>3359173 Plenty of modern cell phone power supplies are 2a+

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:23:28 2016 No.3359202 File: 39 KB, 600x339, neo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh look its another Neo geo x episode

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:24:24 2016 No.3359205 >>3359193 >run on itanium I bet MS is still upset about that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:24:41 2016 No.3359206 >>3359202 They took an old chink MP4 player/emulator, removed all the ports and put it in a nice case

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:25:43 2016 No.3359209 >>3358909 NES cartridges and controllers are a secondary market that no longer has anything to do with Nintendo. They have no reason to support it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:25:57 2016 No.3359210 >>3359021 >Seems like a shitty price point to me you forgot to ad the cost of those 30 games... American education anyone...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:26:53 2016 No.3359214 how much would people on here pay for a hypothetical (mini) remake NES that replicates the original circuitry, instead of using an ARM and an emu? It would still be incompatible to old cartridges, maybe use some proprietary 30-in-1 cart(s)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:27:14 2016 No.3359217 >>3359197 >He never saw Grand Turismo 2 before lol I'd have literally laughedin his face for saying that. GT2 is probably the single most worthless game on Playstation that's also so good literally everyone should own a copy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:27:25 2016 No.3359219 >>3359210 http://www.emuparadise.me/Nintendo_Entertainment_System_ROMs/13

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:27:46 2016 No.3359220 This thread is definitely more /v/ than /vr/ in terms of post quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:27:55 2016 No.3359221 >>3359210 >you forgot to ad the cost of those 30 games that's $0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:29:23 2016 No.3359226 I'm curious about price point, and dissatisfied with cartridge compatibility not being included. Other than that, could be fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:29:41 2016 No.3359229 >>3359214 ARM processor? Wait, this remake uses the same shit that the Raspberry Pi does?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:30:02 2016 No.3359230 >>3359220 /vr/ posting quality is a myth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:30:39 2016 No.3359231 >>3359219 >>3359221 By that logic, the console itself is also worthless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:31:29 2016 No.3359234 >>3359221 >Thinking licensing is free There's a reason VC can't just have every game is because there needs to be legal talk which cost actual money. If there was 30 of only Nintendo games yeah sure but third party no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:31:35 2016 No.3359235 Nintendo trying to cash in on kids who say "OMG NES NOSTALGIA" who weren't even alive when it was out. Most people here already have a NES and a bunch of carts for it, so there's not really any point to it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:31:55 2016 No.3359237 >online only really Nintendo are we Microsoft now?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:31:59 2016 No.3359238

>>3359229
Nobody knows, but it's the most likely at the moment. Also, you don't know much about ARM, do you? Same "shit" as the Pi uses, and your phone, and your smart appliances, and your GBA, your DS and many many other things. ARM's an architecture, not more. It makes no statement about capabilities or lack of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:32:02 2016 No.3359239 >>3359231 No it's not, retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:32:56 2016 No.3359241 >>3359229 Why is that surprising? It's a common processor for small electronics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:33:01 2016 No.3359245 >>3359231 The console has at the very least the value of materials and assembly. The games have been created and paid for long ago. Copying them costs nothing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:33:22 2016 No.3359246 >>3358785 Fuck off that nes mini has some great games on it. There is nothing casual about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:33:29 2016 No.3359248 One potential problem with using an original classic controller. The wire on the original classic controller is like 3 feet long and comes out of the bottom so you have to fold the wire behind the controller(takes up some of the length of the wire)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:33:31 2016 No.3359249 File: 29 KB, 252x291, 74b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359234 I wonder who is behind this post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:33:35 2016 No.3359250 >>3359168 >Because it's ARM and not x86 This is the reason you are kept in this containment board, please never go to /g/ we have enough retards already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:34:09 2016 No.3359251 >>3359234 why do you think I give a shit about licensing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:35:10 2016 No.3359252 >>3359235 >Nintendo trying to cash in on kids who say "OMG NES NOSTALGIA" who weren't even alive when it was out. and it'll work >Most people here are not the target audience

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:35:26 2016 No.3359253 >>3359251 because i had the smallest glimmer of hope you were not a garbage human being.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:35:46 2016 No.3359254 >>3359214 I'd actually but it if it was that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:35:51 2016 No.3359256 >>3359235 >there's not really any point to it Except to cash grab on the OMG NES NOSTALGIA kids as you were quick to point out. They obviously know their market, as any business should.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:36:08 2016 No.3359258 So basically Nintendo is entering the market of consoles you'd find in Bed, Bath, & Beyond?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:36:27 2016 No.3359259 >>3359195 https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/comments/3xezha/buyers_remorse_a_review_of_atgames_sega_genesis/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:37:00 2016 No.3359261 Seriously though, people have been nagging Nintendo about this for years its about damn time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:37:10 2016 No.3359262 >>3359253 I had the smallest glimmer of hope you were not a piece of shit judan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:37:12 2016 No.3359263 >>3359253 The garbage ones are the ones that came up with this whole licensing bull

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:37:45 2016 No.3359264 >>3359258 Why would you not target normies? Nerds aren't going to buy this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:38:14 2016 No.3359265 >>3359259 > reddit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:38:16 2016 No.3359267 >>3359254 for how much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:39:05 2016 No.3359269 >>3359251 Because you're posting in this thread about yet another emulator box that's only differentiating characteristic is its Nintendo license?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:39:31 2016 No.3359271 >>3359210 >>3359221 >ILL USE THIS ORIGINAL HARDWARE TO COMPARE IT... BUTTT BUTT NOT THE GAMESS. THOSE CAN BE DIGITAL EVEN THO I CANT PLAY THEM ON AN ORIGINAL NES, BUT IM RIGHT... mobing-goal/posts.rar Murican education at its finest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:39:43 2016 No.3359272 >>3358946 >N64 >not having access to Rare's library Pass

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:39:51 2016 No.3359273

>>3359261
I mentioned it in a thread a while back, but I really want an unreasonably tiny but fully functional GBC. Same old reflective display, no changes, still using carts. But everything miniaturized as far as it will go. I don't care if it ends up being unplayable half-inch tall, it's the ultimate portable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:40:00 2016 No.3359274 >>3359254 Why? It does the exact same thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:40:06 2016 No.3359275 >>3359263 Yes the IP system that gave birth to all the games you play is garbage retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:40:21 2016 No.3359276 File: 152 KB, 355x257, Captur1e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359259

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:40:38 2016 No.3359279

Reminder that Nintendo has used public emulators in the past for their commercial endeavors, like PocketNES for the NES Classics on GBA, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just a Raspberry Pi (as previously mentioned) running a modified version of RetroArch and one of the NES cores, but with a friendlier GUI.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:41:00 2016 No.3359280 >>3359271 creating that piece hardware costs money. Copying the rom dump of an existing game onto it does not

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:41:13 2016 No.3359281 >>3359267 Uhhhh, I don't know. It'd have to be around or slightly more than the price of a used NES. I'd go with $60 at most? >>3359274 We don't know that. I hope it is that.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:42:00 2016 No.3359282

>>3359258
Makes sense. This machine are for 30's-40's year old that haven't really touched a gaming system since the NES/SNES. And just want to live back to those days again. Work for Atari and as long as the system isn't complete shit with their games (lag will make Punch-Out unplayable) it should do very well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:42:07 2016 No.3359283 >>3359275 >that gave birth to all the games you play they exist despite it, not because of it And you're forgetting the untold number of games I can't play, because they were prohibited due to the IP system

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:42:11 2016 No.3359284 >>3359229 >only the raspi has an ARM CPU

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:42:19 2016 No.3359286 >>3359194 Intel's first CPU was a CPU for a calculator, fyi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:42:45 2016 No.3359287 >>3359280 The value of an item is what people are willing to pay for it. Not what it cost to make it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:43:39 2016 No.3359290 >>3359287 and I put the value of these games at $0, and gave my reasoning for it. I put the value of this hardware well above $0, and also gave my reasoning for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:43:46 2016 No.3359292 >>3359280 Programming them did cost money, and you don't buy things because making a copy cost anything. Then we would not pay teachers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:43:56 2016 No.3359293 >>3359283 >>3359283 >they exist despite it, not because of it >And you're forgetting the untold number of games I can't play, because they were prohibited due to the IP system >this is what sanders and trump supporters actually believe

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:44:07 2016 No.3359294

>>3359281
>We don't know that. I hope it is that.
I'm saying hypothetically.
What's the difference between an emulator box that plays 30 games (near) perfect, or a hardware clone that only plays those same 30 games?
Why would it be worth more to the user if they perform the same function?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:45:01 2016 No.3359297 File: 109 KB, 750x900, 1468514701719.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3358781 >>3359151 Add a Fleshlight and a mini-screen and I'm gone

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:46:04 2016 No.3359301

>>3359280
cant wait for movie studios, record labels, SONY and MS to start selling 1TB disc drives with all their games at the cost of just what a 1TB drive... i mean.... the music, movies, tv shows, and games are already on their online stores amirite? IT COSTS NOTHING THEY SHOULD JUST SELL THEM WITH EVERYTHING ALREADY IN IT!!! ITS A BRILLIANT IDEA!!! IM ONLY 15 YEARS OLD AND IVE ALREADY SOLVED A BIG PROBLEM!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:46:19 2016 No.3359302 >>3359292 the resources spent to create these games have been paid back A teacher spends a scarce resource (their time) to do what they do. Copying data is a matter of ctrl-c, ctrl-v, and can be automated fairly well. No resources spent there

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:46:35 2016 No.3359304 >>3359290 People as in the market, not one loudmoth dumbass on 4chan. People obviously pay for ROMs. Look at the VC.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:47:19 2016 No.3359306

>>3359168
>and not x86. Otherwise phones and other shit would also be a real computer.
>ZX Spectrum isn't a computer
>Atari 8-bit isn't a computer
>Commodore 64 isn't a computer
>Amiga isn't a computer
>Amstrad CPC isn't a computer
>BBC Micro isn't a computer
>MSX isn't a computer
>Apple II and Macintosh isn't a computer
>Vector-06C isn't a computer
>BK-0010 isn't a computer

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:47:40 2016 No.3359308

>>3359294
>a hardware clone that only plays those same 30 games
that's not technically possible. If it's a hardware clone, it runs every executable that runs on the original hardware. The only restriction you can put in place would be physical, like giving that hardware only access to a secured ROM with data, that can't be replaced

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:48:20 2016 No.3359309 >>3359302 When you own an IP, sell it only long enough to break even, then give it away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:48:39 2016 No.3359312 >>3359279 PocketNES is public domain while Retroarch isn't

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:49:00 2016 No.3359314 >>3359306 Macs use x86.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:49:53 2016 No.3359315
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>>3359302
"WHAY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR OLD RECORDS IF THOSE BANDS HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MONEY BACK? WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR MOVIES ON BLURAY IF STUDIOS ALREADY MADE THEIR MONEY BACK FROM SCREENINGS AND DVD SALES"

#FEELTHEBERN

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:50:15 2016 No.3359319 >>3359217 I remember telling him "you know that I can buy these cheaper used on amazon right?" and he just scoffed at me like I had told him "the earth was flat" or something Really superb customer service~

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:50:24 2016 No.3359321

>>3359301
>cant wait for movie studios, record labels, SONY and MS to start selling 1TB disc drives with all their games at the cost of just what a 1TB drive
better even, skip the drive and make it a free download. You just discovered that distribution as payment method is a bad idea. It gave us DRM and all other kinds of consumer-hostile mechanisms, because it can't deal with the simple reality that copying digital data is really easy.

Creating these things is a different matter. In the case of NES games, they're old enough that they made their money through distribution, because infrastructure for free distribution was not yet available. They've been paid for long ago though, so charging for their distribution again is quite insulting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:50:28 2016 No.3359323 >>3358749 This would have been great like 12 years ago when I was a middle schooler who didn't know what emulation was. That said, totally getting that classic controller.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:51:04 2016 No.3359326 >>3359294 There is no difference, except that a real clone would be much more difficult to make

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:51:25 2016 No.3359328 >>3359304 >People obviously pay for ROMs that's their problem, not mine. You followed the actual trail of the exchange? It did not involve the price you can charge people. It was all about the value of the hardware + software

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:52:07 2016 No.3359331 >>3359314 Underage b&

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:52:26 2016 No.3359335 >>3359309 >When you own an IP that's where things go wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:52:45 2016 No.3359336 >>3359314 It's a recent thing, they used PowerPC ten years before and 68000 Motorola twenty years ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:53:04 2016 No.3359338 If anyone buys this, please castrate yourselves.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:53:47 2016 No.3359339

>>3359321
you DO realize that copyright and IP rights.... are in place... right? you DO understand that, the fact that Hitchcok movies are old and have made their money back, i cant just go and sell a USb drive with all his movies inside... you Do understand it right? are you from California by any chance? did you vote BERN? do you want free stuff from the tree of free shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:54:11 2016 No.3359342 >>3359338 buying one for my wife's son

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:54:42 2016 No.3359345 >>3359319 I stopped buying $1 copies of Gran Turismo 2 when I hit 5 of them. Some shithead demanding $20 for one would get my full contempt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:55:03 2016 No.3359347 >>3359294 Software is faster, easier, and cheaper to develop but less accurate. High accuracy software emulation requires beefy hardware to be comparable to hardware.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:55:33 2016 No.3359349 Between this and Pokemon Nintendo have been nothing short of marketing genius lately. I have an actual NES and won't be buying this shit but goddamn, for casuals that know fuck all about the bubble we live in this will make serious money.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:56:29 2016 No.3359351 >>3359328 >It did not involve the price you can charge people. It was all about the value of the hardware + software Irony, Gentlemen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:57:01 2016 No.3359352 >>3359347 >High accuracy software emulation requires beefy hardware to be comparable to hardware. Not for the NES. Or any popular 8-bit system.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:57:57 2016 No.3359357 >>3359349 You know you will eventually, just wait. And you will buy more than one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:59:02 2016 No.3359359 >>3359315 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:00:06 2016 No.3359360 >>3358812 >advertisements for an NES >playing during a dubbed Gundam anime on the Toonami Adult Swim block Holy shit. That's like two layers of nostalgia there.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:00:26 2016 No.3359361

>>3359352
Running high accuracy only work on modern hardware because the software is running on hardware that is hundreds if not thousands of times faster than the hardware its emulating. Its not powerful relative to modern standards its powerful relative to the hardware it's emulating.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:01:16 2016 No.3359365

>>3359339
>you DO realize that copyright and IP rights.... are in place... right?
unfortunately. Can't wait for that shit, and people believing it's good shit, to die. You've been kicking and screaming for the last 3 decades now, fucking over the digital age for anybody sane, because you treat thoughts like objects. It's insane.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:02:42 2016 No.3359368 >>3359357 >you will buy more than one >you Speak for yourself retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:03:43 2016 No.3359370 >>3359349 >bubble we live in you're adorably delusional

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:03:48 2016 No.3359371 >>3359365 found the commie...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:04:12 2016 No.3359373 >>3359349 I feel like they're targetting people who don't have Nintendo's hardware. Although I guess this is hardware, atleast it doesn't require WiiU or something

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:04:44 2016 No.3359374 >>3359357 I might if they added Castlevania III :3

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:05:15 2016 No.3359375 >>3359365 >Create a good thing >I want to protect myself from having anyone distribute my good thing >NO, I WANT FREE STUFF!

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:07:17 2016 No.3359379

>>3359375
>protect myself from having anyone distribute my good thing
that phrase makes no sense. You want to stop people from thinking? If you don't want something to be in the public, don't make it public. If you want other people to see, read, hear, or otherwise experience it, deal with the inevitable reality that these people will form thoughts about it, and there's nothing you can do against that.

>FREE STUFF
Who said I'm unwilling to pay for creation?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:09:09 2016 No.3359380

>>3359370

Hey, I didn't say it was a small bubble, but it exists. You can't ask a random bloke on the street about finding the best connection to hook up your Turbografx-16 to your Sony Trinitron CRT, but he'd probably at least know what an NES is. You can't deny they're aiming for a market much bigger than us right now.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:09:45 2016 No.3359381
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>>3359379
>selling something is the same as giving up my right to be the only one profting from my hard work and great idea that lots of people use everyday.

I guarantee youll achieve success at a young age my friend, you are destined to greatness i have no doubts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:11:03 2016 No.3359383 >>3359380 If some random bloke didn't know what a TG16 is, they probably have no interest in getting a NES in the first place. Now fuck off.

>>	Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo Thu Jul 14 13:11:09 2016 No.3359384 >>3359379 This post is a troll.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:11:26 2016 No.3359385 >>3359380 >I didn't say it was a small bubble, but it exists yeah, that's why I was laughing >You can't deny they're aiming for a market much bigger than us right now which has nothing to do with bubbles

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:12:44 2016 No.3359390 >>3359381 >giving up my right to be the only one profting from my hard work You're free to get paid to work, if you can manage. What you created is out of your control, whether you like it or not

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:13:11 2016 No.3359391

I am a software programmer who manages my own regional independent company. I don't give a fuck if you believe me. I am Anonymous afterall. But why do I feel the need to upload and download our shit to Pirate's Bay just to say fuck you to Jewish business policies?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:13:46 2016 No.3359392 >>3359384 It's my genuine position on the subject

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:13:52 2016 No.3359393

>>3359383
>If some random bloke didn't know what a TG16 is, they probably have no interest in getting a NES in the first place.

I don't know what a TG16 is, but I know what an NES is and if I saw a commercial or one sitting in a store, I wouldn't mind dropping 60 bucks to play some old games.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:14:33 2016 No.3359394

>>3359149
The controller port doesn't mean anything, and by the way the Wii doesn't use that controller port on the console itself, it's used by the controllers.

>>3359160
I can't see Nintendo actually using Android. They seem to want to develop their own stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:14:49 2016 No.3359395 >>3359391 probably because you understand the nature of software and its development better than the men in the middle trying to "sell" it on your behalf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:15:07 2016 No.3359397 It's cheaper to buy one of these than to buy the real games, isn't it.

>>	Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo Thu Jul 14 13:15:24 2016 No.3359398 >>3359392 5/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:15:51 2016 No.3359401 >>3359397 even cheaper to emulate. It's very likely this is just an emu box

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:16:56 2016 No.3359404 >>3359390 >You're free to get paid to work And where does that money come from?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:17:50 2016 No.3359407

>>3359390
>What you created is out of your control
>if i invent something nobody on this planet has been capable of, and proceed to sell it to make things easier for other people, then im not allowed to be the only one selling it even tho i came out with the solution n the first place, and everyone should be allowed to make bootlegs of my creation.

back to /g/ Richard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:17:57 2016 No.3359409 What if this was the NX all along

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:18:01 2016 No.3359410 File: 51 KB, 800x450, snes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3358781 Mass produced SNES classic controllers is very yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:18:04 2016 No.3359412 >>3359404 probably not from distribution also >if you can manage

>>	Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo Thu Jul 14 13:18:07 2016 No.3359413 >>3359404 Nice trollpost.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:18:16 2016 No.3359414

>>3359393
>I don't know what a TG16 is
Then you're ignorant.
>but I know what an NES is and if I saw a commercial or one sitting in a store, I wouldn't mind dropping 60 bucks to play some old games.
When you can emulate them on your smartphone/toaster PC for free?
Give me a break.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:18:46 2016 No.3359415 >>3359395 I bet you think programming should only be a hobby.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:18:52 2016 No.3359416
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>>3359383

>If some random bloke didn't know what a TG16 is, they probably have no interest in getting a NES in the first place.

Uh, I don't think that's quite right. Maybe looking up Nintendo's sales figures circa 1989 and comparing them directly to NEC's could leave you slightly better informed.

>>3359385

This thing needs more Bubble Bobble anyway.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:20:24 2016 No.3359417

>>3359397
if all you want is to ppay those games, it would be better to find a cheap second hand Wii, mod it, and the you can play the complete Nes, Snes, Gamecube and gameboy library on it with those nice Nintendo quality controllers, also as a plus youlll have accesss to the Wii library of only 4 games wirht playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:21:36 2016 No.3359423 >>3359417 >>3359401 Sure, but there are normalfags who are afraid of pirating

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:22:23 2016 No.3359426

>>3359407
>then im not allowed to be the only one selling it
why should you be? With what reasoning do you want to deny people the ability to sell something? With what reasoning do you want to deny people to buy something? You want to infringe on the normal abilities of billions because you're on a power trip? I don't see why law should support you.

>even tho i came out with the solution n the first place
so what? Tell you what: You came up with it, you understood it best. That knowledge is valuable. Others can copy what you did, but they need time to learn what how and why it works.

>and everyone should be allowed to make bootlegs of my creation
what's a bootleg? You think digital data is different because someone else puts it on a chip, or a disc?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:22:40 2016 No.3359427 >>3359151 >>3358781 >OMG OMG ANOTHER EMULATOR BOX!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:23:48 2016 No.3359429 >>3359415 Considering my job, you'd lose that bet. What made you think I'm against paying people for work they do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:24:01 2016 No.3359431 File: 241 KB, 1280x720, WiiU_screenshot_TV_012FA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is it just running Virtual Console, because that looks oddly blurry for some reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:24:20 2016 No.3359432 >>3359426 Ohhh so your a Chineman bootleger, gotcha... you shouldve said that in the first place, it all makes sense now.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:25:04 2016 No.3359437
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Can't wait for that 240p upscaled bilinear filter scale through hdmi
It's gonna be great, just like virtual console amirite
I mean I haven't followed virtual console since the Wii, please tell it doesn't look like something like this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:26:24 2016 No.3359439 File: 41 KB, 736x431, consume.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359432 it's so much easier to just kill the messenger, instead of dealing with the actual subject, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:26:30 2016 No.3359440 >>3359437 My eyes hurt

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:26:47 2016 No.3359441

>>3359423

This is exactly who this device is aimed at, I have no idea how people in the thread are so autistic they can't figure this out. Normalfags don't wanna hear about fucking roms and emulators, maybe they're ignorant, maybe they just can't wrap their head around it, maybe they haven't given the NES a thought in years, who knows. To imply something like this won't sell because you can buy a Raspberry Pi or hack a Wii is hilariously narrow-minded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:26:49 2016 No.3359442 >>3358774 How about i rip out your guts and replace them with my BBC

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:27:25 2016 No.3359448 >>3359437 what face will you make when it turns out the thing runs at 1080p with a fat CRT filter slapped onto it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:28:27 2016 No.3359449 >>3359441 we understand who it's aimed at. We can still shake our heads in disbelief when someone from this here crowd still considers getting one anyway

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:29:07 2016 No.3359452
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>>3359440
Pic related, what could've been

>>3359448
I can only hope, but they've been doing that shit since the gameboy player in the gamecube, and I know how stubborn Nintendo is. But still, I don't know how it is in the Wii U now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:30:36 2016 No.3359456 >>3359437 The VC is basically unchanged from the Wii barring a few more generations available (GBA, DS). Whatever happens the emulation will be far better than the Neo Geo boxes, I'd bet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:33:15 2016 No.3359459 >>3359449 Eh, you still see a surprising amount of HDTVs/emuboxes in the Battlestation threads, there being plebs on /vr/ is something I accepted long ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:33:43 2016 No.3359461 >>3359437 Why would it look like that? The wii produced analog signals, this will be digital.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:33:43 2016 No.3359462 >>3359452 >that letterbox

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:34:27 2016 No.3359463 >>3359459 >HDTVs/emuboxes >being plebs the problem's on your end, not theirs

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:35:04 2016 No.3359465

>>3359456
So they actually put new features for the GBA/DS but said fuck everything else?
I honestly don't understand Nintendo when it comes to the Virtual Console, boggles my mind. And it's not like people are asking for the world, just something as simple as nearest neighbor stretch and/or scanlines would suffice. Sheit I'm not asking for goddamn crt-royale shader.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:35:28 2016 No.3359467 >>3359462 probably trying to use integer scaling. On modern big screen TVs the resulting image is quite old school in size.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:36:11 2016 No.3359469 >>3359459 Emuboxes are fine. An emubox that only plays 30 games is not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:36:30 2016 No.3359470 >>3359465 >just something as simple as nearest neighbor stretch and/or scanlines would suffice that would be options. Don't do options. They confuse people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:37:09 2016 No.3359471 >>3359469 >Emuboxes are fine. Why are you here if you can't set up a raspi

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:38:00 2016 No.3359472 File: 447 KB, 1280x720, WiiU_screenshot_TV_018DC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359448 Mario Maker CRT filter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:38:19 2016 No.3359474 >>3359469 an emubox playing only 30 can be fine, if the management is dead easy and the price is fair. Remember, consoles are at least to some degree about convenience >>3359471 a raspi would be an emubox

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:38:21 2016 No.3359475 >>3359471 I don't understand. Why am I on /vr/ or this thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:40:04 2016 No.3359476 File: 43 KB, 1920x1080, REEEEEEE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359462 >Scanlines + nearest neighbor without integer scale Hey you're the one that asked for it Enjoy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:40:12 2016 No.3359478 >>3358749 I'm curious what kind of picture output it will have. 240p? 1080p? RGB? HDMI?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:41:08 2016 No.3359480 >>3359476 But muh biliniar filter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:41:15 2016 No.3359481 >>3359478 RF

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:41:19 2016 No.3359482 File: 46 KB, 569x571, 1293033071244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359470 I swear to god they picked up this shit from Steve Jobs or something

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:41:55 2016 No.3359484 >>3359481 Just as the devs intended

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:42:10 2016 No.3359485 >>3359478 It has HDMI, nobody mentioned the resolution

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:44:14 2016 No.3359487 File: 201 KB, 1280x720, WiiU_screenshot_TV_0169D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359465 I think that's just because they got someone else to work on the other virtual consoles for them and they added the features?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:44:26 2016 No.3359489 the controller will use the cheapest tech available at the moment and may look like an NES controller but will feel nothing like it, having the wrong weight, the wrong button response, probably even the wrong blend of plastic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:44:39 2016 No.3359490 >>3359465 >nearest neighbor stretch Yuck, you meant 2x/3x NN upscale, right? >scanlines Nearest neighbour with scanlines makes no fucking sense.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:45:14 2016 No.3359491
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>>3359480
Fine let's compromise
>nearest neighbor + integer scale 4x + scale the resulting picture to fit the rest of the screen with bilinear filter

Not terrible, but my autism still prefers integer scale

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:47:13 2016 No.3359493 >>3359491 upscale 2x - 4x with nearest neighbor, then take that and scale it bilinear to fit the screen (maintain aspect), and no scanlines, the ones your implementation use are junky

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:47:21 2016 No.3359494

>>3359490
>Yuck, you meant 2x/3x NN upscale, right?
Of course I meant this: >>3359452
Integer scale on, scanlines optional
I like scanlines + NN if the scanlines aren't the same size of the game pixels, which unfortunately is what usually happens in emulators. I also like to control the scanlines opacity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:47:40 2016 No.3359495 >>3359271 >THOSE CAN BE DIGITAL EVEN THO I CANT PLAY THEM ON AN ORIGINAL NES, BUT IM RIGHT Anon, there are flashcarts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:48:42 2016 No.3359501 >>3359489 That is so Kafkaesque.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:49:46 2016 No.3359503 >>3359491 >make pixels razor sharp >also 3 times taller than scanlines for whatever reason wow, such accuracy, much nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:49:49 2016 No.3359504 >>3359495 the NES does not support flash. It uses proprietary cartridges with ROMs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:51:26 2016 No.3359506 says it comes with 30 games. These better be 30 tiny little cartridges to stick into the device. Even if these carts are just plastic chips used to identify the ROM that's being played back, what's an NES if you can't feed it carts?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:51:48 2016 No.3359508
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>>3359493
Sure buddy
But again, I doubt Nintendo is doing this shit, if all we have to go by is the Virtual Console they'll just slap bilinear filter from the 1:1 pixels and be done with it
What a mess
Not to mention they fuck with the colors as well, everything's desaturated n'shit

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:52:22 2016 No.3359509

>>3359494
>which unfortunately is what usually happens in emulators

And for good reason, unless you didn't really use a CRT, or just cranked up the brightness/contrast up to unsustainable levels, in which case you might also have used less than capable video signals, which wouldn't make the game look like NN.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:53:14 2016 No.3359512 >>3359508 yeah, that's the style I roll. Crisp as integer scaling, fills the screen, little to no floating point scaling artifacts. You're right though, Nintendo likely won't give a damn

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:54:18 2016 No.3359515 >>3359503 There's really no way to make it perfect without fucking with the image too much. Either just get a CRT or all the filters are just going to be up to personal preference, you really can't please everyone without providing options

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:54:52 2016 No.3359516 >>3359156 just imagine the blow jobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:57:27 2016 No.3359520 File: 298 KB, 1280x720, WiiU_screenshot_TV_01078.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't have Mario, so here's what Kirby looks like on VC

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:59:41 2016 No.3359528 >>3359520 woah dude, trying to blind me? Turn the fucking brightness down

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 13:59:56 2016 No.3359529 >>3359520 Why is this allowed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:00:08 2016 No.3359530 File: 53 KB, 632x398, 1466355895359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359504 Well whatever they're called, you can load the whole library on one of said carts and they'll play on a real NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:01:04 2016 No.3359535 >no AV out >emulator box >shitty emulator box, if the WiiU VC is anything to go by >input lag out the ass No thanks, I'll stick to actual NES and SNES and flashcarts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:01:10 2016 No.3359536 >>3359530 just messin' with people. Yes, they're called flash carts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:01:41 2016 No.3359537 File: 1.49 MB, 3920x2120, NES-101-Console-Set.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359506 They're all hard loaded. Instead of expansions, they just sell an NES Mini 2 with 30 more games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:02:44 2016 No.3359540 File: 57 KB, 900x357, ελεκτρονικα-60.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359335 I have a game system for you comrade

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:03:07 2016 No.3359541 >>3359536 Oh, my bad then, I'm terrible at technology so I just assumed I was wrong when I got corrected. Thank you for re-clarifying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:04:29 2016 No.3359543 >>3359537 Oh, I don't mind them being hardloaded. Like I said, the "carts" can be little more than pieces of plastic that select one of the roms in the device. I just want to stick carts into that thing before booting it up, like the real thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:05:13 2016 No.3359546 Why should I get this over a RaPi loaded with every NES game there is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:06:26 2016 No.3359548 >>3359546 You shouldn't. This is for people who don't want to setup a proper emulation device.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:06:54 2016 No.3359550 >>3359546 looks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:08:48 2016 No.3359552 >>3358749 I'd only buy this if it had a way to play more games than the 30 included. Who knows, it could happen. It's a bit too soon to take any conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:11:10 2016 No.3359556 >>3358749 i'll be picking up a pair of controllers on day1

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:11:15 2016 No.3359557 File: 1.60 MB, 2539x1327, Vector-06c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359540 Dude, those are PDP-11 clones Get some real micro-PC

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:12:13 2016 No.3359560 >>3359112 nigga u dumb

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:12:26 2016 No.3359561
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>>3359546
Because you want to support nintendo, make them stronger to destroy any competition. That way we may return to the good old days of games with actual gameplay value instead of only graphic appeal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:13:48 2016 No.3359563 >>3359537 What if it has an expansion port, and you buy NES Mini Expansion packs instead?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:15:37 2016 No.3359567 >>3359561 Not if Nintendo got stuck with a new Jewish CEO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:15:58 2016 No.3359568 File: 80 KB, 555x370, 0987398473098403948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359557 well played, you sneaky commie

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:16:52 2016 No.3359570 File: 62 KB, 503x459, 932837-trog6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3358749 I emulate, but I'm going to get one anyway. I only wish they included Trog, but I do acknowledge that's a pretty niche game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:21:53 2016 No.3359575 >hating Retron V >but its okay when Nintendo does it! I dont understand you guys

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:23:32 2016 No.3359581

>>3359439
thing is, the "actual subject" its pretty much "i want that shit the other guy invested money and time in creating, for FREE because if he didnt want it to be free he shouldnt have invented it in the first place"

Thats a shit way of thinking, and also what the commies wanted the world to be... you could be doing pretty well in the soviet union or cuba... or maybe venezuela, the guvment takes care of you and everyone is equal it must be paradise isnt it? move there and post back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:23:49 2016 No.3359583 >>3359469 >>3359463 For the record I was referring to the specific combination of emubox + HDTV, not them individually. I know you can use a Framemeister with consoles or an emubox that's actually good like a miniPC, that's just a bit more rare.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:24:05 2016 No.3359584 Can we download more than just the 30 included games? I'll gladly shell out for this if I can.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:24:30 2016 No.3359585

>>3359561
All we'll get if this dumb thing is a success is more emulation boxes with 30 games each. But with a shiny plastic cover and a cheap controller that's strictly inferior to a Classic Controller. Nintendo basically has made a shittier OUYA and is trying to advertise it as a good thing.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:24:43 2016 No.3359586

>>3359575
The retron 5 is an emulator box that looks like dogshit and arbitrarily reads cartridges in spite of the fact that it just dumps them anyway, this is a nice looking very affordable little gimmick with some great games and aimed at a casual audience. They are not the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:25:04 2016 No.3359587 >>3359575 Maybe reading the thread should help you guide your confusion. Hardly anyone is praising it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:25:12 2016 No.3359589 >>3359575 Sup /v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:25:44 2016 No.3359591 File: 34 KB, 203x149, 1454282452614.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359083 This is legitimately infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:26:01 2016 No.3359594 Praying to god that this doesn't use the shitty Wii U NES emulation, cause it's shit. Wii VC would be nice seeing how it's essentially the size of a Wii.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:26:59 2016 No.3359597 >>3359587 Look to see how many people here said they are either pumped for it or will buy it day one. Over half. I thought /vr/ was all about authentic consoles or emulation, not emu boxes with a preset amount of games aimed as casuals.

>>	Nintengod Thu Jul 14 14:27:16 2016 No.3359598 >>3358749 It will sell like fuckin hotcakes for christmas. But ppl will get bored of it real >no one likes sega :(

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:29:34 2016 No.3359603 >>3359597 It has a nice aesthetic and is cheap, it's not for hardcore retro gamers but it's perfectly suitable for our normie friends, and looks nice on a shelf.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:29:54 2016 No.3359604 File: 10 KB, 225x153, YOUR SOUL IS MINE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359597 http://poal.me/7t4fqw http://poal.me/7t4fqw http://poal.me/7t4fqw http://poal.me/7t4fqw http://poal.me/7t4fqw LET US SEE THEN

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:40:22 2016 No.3359629 What's the best controller for the raspi with retropie?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:42:00 2016 No.3359632 >>3358749 I think it's way overpriced I would buy one if it includes at least 50 games and for 25-30 dollars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:45:10 2016 No.3359640 >Muh emulator box Just buy a fucking Wii. They're worth pennies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:51:54 2016 No.3359653 >>>/v/345010807 >>>/v/345010807 >>>/v/345010807

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:56:53 2016 No.3359667

>USB powered
>Those controller ports
>Can't play physical copies
>More than likely just a emulation box

I mean, what's the point? Could be cool if it had an sd card slot and had the ability to connect to the eshop to get other NES titles. I do like the form factor though. Looks cool.

I'd imagine this is pointless for alot of people on /vr/, but nice for hipsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:59:36 2016 No.3359674 >>3359632 where are you getting a price from, that tweet didn't mention a price.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:00:19 2016 No.3359675 >>3359653 Misses the part where the PSP cost like $200+ at launch and how you couldn't even play retail games if you wanted to play homebrew because Sony kept locking out homebrew in the firmware and locking old firmware out of the retail games.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:00:48 2016 No.3359679

>>3358749
>>3358753
>with 30 games included

So is this thing digital only? Also hate to be that guy but couldn't they make a bigger version of that controller? It wold be so much better if they could make a bigger or altered version of the controller that us adults can use comfortably. Perhaps with two top buttons as well that act as alternate A and B buttons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:01:05 2016 No.3359680 >>3359667 I'm fairly sure it will get homebrewed >>3359674 https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Classic-Mini/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1124287.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:01:50 2016 No.3359681 >>3359640 it's probably NES on a chip, not software emulation. To be honest I'm not really that interested in it either way, I never liked the design of the orginal NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:05:08 2016 No.3359685 >>3358763 >Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream StarTropics SUPER C™ Wait is this Mike Tyson's Punch Out or no?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:05:35 2016 No.3359687 >>3359681 oh and not to mention that you can get a chinese clone that's pretty much the same thing for a lot less than this will AND have a slot to put real famicom games in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:06:02 2016 No.3359693 File: 15 KB, 299x438, wii-classic-versus-pro-thumb-300x438-80234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359679 It supports classic controllers if you just want to use those instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:08:07 2016 No.3359697 >>3359685 Same game, less legal bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:08:23 2016 No.3359698 Is there a list ofthese mini-consoles with prebuilt games? I know Atari and SEGA did it already for instance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:08:33 2016 No.3359701 >>3359680 there is not price mentioned in that ad either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:12:20 2016 No.3359710 >>3359698 I think there was a C64 one too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:13:17 2016 No.3359712 >>3358771 Mayflash make classic controller adaptors. I got one to use with the SNES classic controller I got from that Nintendo online store thing for turning in stars

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:14:22 2016 No.3359714 >>3359680 Thanks for that link. This thing fucking sucks man. What a waste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:14:23 2016 No.3359715 >Emulator box Is this the new buzzword of the day? Every console ever is an "emulator box", a box that plays its own games. Do you consider Steam an "emulator service"?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:14:37 2016 No.3359716

>>3359685
>Wait is this Mike Tyson's Punch Out or no?

The Mr dream version is the re-release of punchout in around 1990 or 1991 (going by memory here). I remember seeing it in stores thinking it was a new punchout game, only to find that it was just a re-release after Mike Tyson's contract with Nintendo had expired.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:14:53 2016 No.3359717 >>3359698 Neo geo did they handheld right? I know it got crap reviews like the Sega ones. But then again Sega will let fucking anyone use a license for that shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:15:28 2016 No.3359719 >>3359715 Do you know what an "emulator" is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:16:31 2016 No.3359721 >>3359697 >Same game, less legal bullshit. Yeah but everyone knows it better as Mike Tyson's Punch Out. This thing is a waste of money anyways so fuck it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:16:56 2016 No.3359723 >>3359715 Is this bait or do you just not know what the word emulate means?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:23:06 2016 No.3359739 >>3358749 >$60 I played less than that for a modded wii. It plays all nes games too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:26:08 2016 No.3359745 >>3359431 Wii U Virtual Console is garbage. Everything is extremely dark and blurry or pixelated, with several frames of input lag. You're better off with the Wii VC version or the actual hardware.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:33:32 2016 No.3359760 >>3359680 >I'm fairly sure it will get homebrewed It probably won't since you won't have access to the storage without desoldering chips

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:35:35 2016 No.3359764 >>3359760 Yeah, it's called a hardmod

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:35:48 2016 No.3359765

>>3358785
it has a good selection of games on it, even startropics is on there and that game's never really gotten all too much love. for 60 dollars it looks like a nice thing to have, i might pick one up personally. and pokemon go is actually pretty fun, maybe if you pulled the stick out of your ass you'd be able to enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:37:10 2016 No.3359771 >>3359681 Probably not, since it has HDMI out and savestates >>3359764 Why would anyone even bother when you can get a general-purpose single-board computer for less

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:39:57 2016 No.3359781
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>>3359739
>I played less than that for a modded wii. It plays all nes games too.

They don't sell modded wii consoles at bed bath and beyond.

These mini-NES will be sold literally everywhere on back Friday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:41:21 2016 No.3359786 >>3359771 Because it's Nintendo. Someone is going to be autistic enough to have fun hardmodding it :^)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:41:52 2016 No.3359789 >Final Fantasy >but no Dragon Quest Nintendo, you're constantly saying how you want to make Dragon Quest popular in the West. And then you do this? What the actual fuck.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:42:39 2016 No.3359791

>>3359083
>this project was on the backburner for a while
DOING WHAT, YOU JUST DRILLED A HOLE THROUGHT THE CASE FOR A USB EXTENSION CABLE AND HOTGLUED A FUCKING FLASH DRIVE TO A CARTRIDGE

I'm more angry that he thinks this is a project to be proud of than that he destroyed the hardware.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:44:12 2016 No.3359795 You know it's cheap shit because it came from NoA. Japanese people aren't retarded enough to buy an emulator in a box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:44:59 2016 No.3359798 File: 28 KB, 640x480, nes171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359791 should have put the whole computer inside it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:47:28 2016 No.3359803 >>3359795 Yeah, unless the emulation is extremely good (or better yet: running natively), I'm just gonna buy a few of the NES Classic Controllers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:50:31 2016 No.3359813 Well, where's the Mini Famicom?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:51:14 2016 No.3359814 File: 86 KB, 600x450, USB Game Boy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359791

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:51:45 2016 No.3359815 >>3359112 LOL go have a seat in the corner m8, I've got a cone shaped hat for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:52:45 2016 No.3359819 >>3359537 >30 more games I think you mean 10 more games, 20 repeats, and now featuring a cheaper, worse emulator

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:52:56 2016 No.3359820 File: 3 KB, 124x87, ௵.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359814 JUST

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:53:28 2016 No.3359825 File: 11 KB, 200x200, Wew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359781 >check prices for that Genesis >40 bucks, sometimes 60 >80 games >Can read cartridges >Two controllers included

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:54:04 2016 No.3359827 File: 35 KB, 468x351, SNES Toaster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359820

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:55:06 2016 No.3359829 >>3359827 At least it still works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:57:53 2016 No.3359837 File: 59 KB, 600x600, NES.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359829

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:58:17 2016 No.3359838 File: 21 KB, 500x375, drakon modded megadrive.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359827 Drakon's mods are my favorite

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:59:48 2016 No.3359841 >>3359838 Should've posted the Genesis/GBA mash-up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 15:59:48 2016 No.3359843 File: 863 KB, 2560x1920, JnTSGDe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359838

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:00:05 2016 No.3359846 >>3359837 This thing is a famiclone so it's not really that bad except for the cartridge but at least it's a very common game with several releases

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:00:52 2016 No.3359850 File: 72 KB, 837x604, UeP2c0l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359841 What was this shit again?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:01:32 2016 No.3359852 >>3359838 Good god did he cover the thing with whiteout? The paint is clearly not evenly distributed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:02:19 2016 No.3359858 >>3359850 It was so you could play GBA games on a TV. That's it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:02:33 2016 No.3359859

>tfw 3 different people just this morning have messaged me telling me about this
>consider telling them I own almost every one of the pack-in games on cartridges but instead just say "yeah looks cool" so I don't seem like a dick

is anyone else "that guy who likes those old games" to every person they know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:02:52 2016 No.3359860 File: 108 KB, 653x490, nesnocase.jpg~original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359852 yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:05:05 2016 No.3359863 File: 1.18 MB, 2560x1920, 1405227438064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:05:31 2016 No.3359864 >tfw NES had blinking screen of death >pushed pins out and disabled lockout chip Now the NES won't even turn on Halp!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:05:31 2016 No.3359865 >>3359825 enjoy the horrible controllers and the terrible sound emulation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:06:58 2016 No.3359869 File: 28 KB, 401x350, 1405231336019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:07:07 2016 No.3359870 >>3359865 Nobody ever played the Genesis for its sound anyway. >beep >boop >fart

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:09:26 2016 No.3359878 File: 661 KB, 3028x2271, 1405236073991.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:12:02 2016 No.3359883 >>3359870 The YM2612 is amazing. What's it like being deaf?

Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 16:12:49 2016 No.3359884

>plug-in multi-game box
Hey, Nintendo finally grew a brain!

>^F controller
>54 results
>no one asking for a bigger controller
>no one asking for a controller with rounder edges
I mean I like the classic design, but I liked it a lot better when I was little and it it fit my hands properly. I don't even have big hands now, if anything they're kind of small. The relatively pointed edges get uncomfortable after a while now too.

>StarTropics
fuck yes

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:13:38 2016 No.3359886

>>3359870
>he bought the genesis fart meme

https://youtu.be/xdY4EKAcW4Q

https://youtu.be/bYJd6aEkwvg

https://youtu.be/w5sGV7Jw2s8

lol k. Genesis only sounded like fart bwangs when the sound designer didn't bother to learn his way around the hardware

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:14:30 2016 No.3359890

>>3359884
>>no one asking for a bigger controller
>>no one asking for a controller with rounder edges
>I mean I like the classic design, but I liked it a lot better when I was little and it it fit my hands properly. I don't even have big hands now, if anything they're kind of small. The relatively pointed edges get uncomfortable after a while now too.
Classic Controllers exist. Third party ones exist as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:16:12 2016 No.3359895 >>3359890 I prefer the NES 2 controller.

Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 16:16:21 2016 No.3359897

>>3358936
>>3359209
he didn't ask for more cartridges, he asked for cartridge support
I have a licensed Sega box that has a bunch of games built in but also supports plugging in most Genesis cartridges
the thing is...
>>3358928
>>3358942
Nintendo wants tighter control and lower costs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:17:25 2016 No.3359902 Is this going to be a system on a chip or just a thing that connects to the Nintendo eShop?

>>	Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 16:18:14 2016 No.3359904 >>3359890 what do you mean, like Wii-style controllers that look NES-ish? I've never had one of those

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:18:36 2016 No.3359906 >>3359902 Neither, just an ARM offline emulator

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:18:47 2016 No.3359907

>>3358801
They don't necessarily need to be original chips. They could use a smaller generic chip that works in conjuction with a converter that paths and reacts like an original chip. Like their own flash cart that only has one game, but there probably wouldn't be enough market demand for something like that to offset the cost of developing it.

Personally, of the new controllers are nice and compatible with the original wii I'd definitely pick some up for my emulator box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:18:51 2016 No.3359908 >>3358816 Would it even be possible to do it or do the NES chips rely on obsolete chip fab processes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:19:19 2016 No.3359912 >>3359886 The Genesis is a great console with many great games but it did have less than stellar sound.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:19:34 2016 No.3359913 >>3359328 >implying anything has intrinsic "value" in a market go take economics 101, fuck boy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:19:43 2016 No.3359914 I can't wait to see its internals or if people will be able to hack it to do more than NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:20:50 2016 No.3359916 File: 83 KB, 557x605, 1454109336017.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Usb power cable >I can plug it on my PC or Wii U >Or my fridge

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:23:05 2016 No.3359924

>>3359031
You know what it reminds me of? Back when they had those NES emulator cart thingies for the GBA. There were a bunch of games like the NES port of Dig Dug that might have been nice to have but they chose not to release them in the US because we never got those games here back in the NES era thus no nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:24:39 2016 No.3359928 >>3359908 You could easily "emulate" them with an FPGA

>>	Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 16:25:55 2016 No.3359931 >>3359680 no composite or coax out? what the fuck? how am I supposed to get the full experience by playing it on a CRT? also why does it have Castlevania 1 and 2 but not 3?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:26:00 2016 No.3359932 >>3359928 Yeh but an FPGA probably won't replicate some of the hardware quirks/bugs of the original chipset.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:27:08 2016 No.3359940 >>3359931 HDMI is teh future

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:27:33 2016 No.3359942 >>3359931 As far as i know, it has a HDMI cable. No idea if you can use it on a CRTV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:28:02 2016 No.3359945 >>3359813 Famicom wasn't a big grey box It was already mini The only smaller console is PC-Engine

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:29:01 2016 No.3359949 So what goes on the N64 version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:29:38 2016 No.3359950 Nintendo putting out useless bullshit and trying to appeal to nostalgiafags after their last console fucking died? I can't believe it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:30:32 2016 No.3359951 File: 48 KB, 1382x558, Usenet1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359561

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:30:44 2016 No.3359952 File: 50 KB, 720x416, [T-N]Kamen_Rider_555_13[5C845E2D]DVD.avi-2016-06-24-01h13m31s265.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359916 or the TV

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:30:46 2016 No.3359953 >>3359945 Yeah, I mean a Japanese version of whatever this thing is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:31:36 2016 No.3359957 File: 59 KB, 1401x675, Usenet2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359951

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:32:11 2016 No.3359959 >>3358749 What will happen >nintendo is so cool! I love retro gamez >plays for 15 minutes >damn son these games suck dick >goes back to playing xbone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:32:43 2016 No.3359960 Its the neo geo x all over again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:33:21 2016 No.3359962 >>3359957 >>3359951 Have you noticed the point where video games stopped being good always seems to coincide with the point where they attained puberty and started caring more about girls?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:33:29 2016 No.3359963 >>3359959 Pretty much I see casuals getting bored quickly after playing it 15 minutes each game and return to Halo or COD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:33:36 2016 No.3359964 >>3359957 He's not wrong, Toobin' is godlike

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:33:58 2016 No.3359967 >>3359870 If I'm going to listen to a fart it better fucking be an accurate rendition of one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:34:22 2016 No.3359969 Ricoh manufactured the NES chipset so they would own the rights to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:34:49 2016 No.3359971 >>3359912 no, it had less than stellar programmers learn the difference

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:35:34 2016 No.3359972 >>3359969 The patents don't exist anymore, Famiclones are actually legal now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:35:51 2016 No.3359973 >>3359969 even then, chinese bootleggers managed to clone the consoles without the help of ricoh in the 90's using 6502 clones im sure nintendo could do it if they wanted to, hell im sure it's just as easy now since they still produce 6502's

Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 16:36:01 2016 No.3359975

>>3359951
not sure how serious you're being with that repost, but it's almost impossible to be have completely new gameplay now because there are so many genres and subgenres and different approaches to them, and when a game like that does pop usually no one cares
also you can totally buy video game soundtracks, in fact they've gotten more prevalent over time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:38:02 2016 No.3359980 >>3359973 And they did produce PPU clones as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:38:24 2016 No.3359984 >>3359975 I think his point was that >>3359561 is today's equivalent of >>3359951

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:38:51 2016 No.3359986

>>3359931

Castlevania III had an additional hardware in it's cartridge, and that co-processor varied by region. Japan used the VPR6 and the north American release used the MMC5 chip. Back in the early days of NES emulation it was very hard to game to emulate for that reason.

>The MMC5 is Nintendo's largest MMC. It was originally also the most expensive. Only Koei used this chip regularly. The chip has 1 KB of extra RAM, three extra square wave, PCM sound channels, support for vertical split screen scrolling, improved graphics capabilities (making 16,384 different tiles available per screen rather than only 256, and allowing each individual 8x8-pixel background tile to have its own color assignment instead of being restricted to one color set per 2x2 tile group), highly configurable program ROM and character ROM bank switching, and a scanline-based IRQ counter.

The right emulator can do it, but who knows what is in this little NES box.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:39:11 2016 No.3359989 >>3359980 pretty sure they did, or else it wouldn't actually work, you know NOACs didn't exist back then

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:40:37 2016 No.3359992 Remember all that discussion of how we apparently can't reproduce the Commodore 64 chipset? Funny but it was possible to clone the NES chipset which is barely newer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:40:53 2016 No.3359993 >>3359883 >>3359886 What's it like being blinded by nostalgia? Genesis' sound is horrible and only a few composers actually managed to make something good out of it. This bullshit about "learning the hardware" doesn't fool anyone.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:42:25 2016 No.3359997

So this is the NX? Talk about a disappointment.

I kid, I kid. This is kinda cool, now you will be able to play old NES games on an HD television with (I assume) that damn lag being gone.

I don't think I'll be getting it though. I already own a lot of the 30 games that come with it. Will the library be expanded? If you can play more NES games on it I would consider buying it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:42:31 2016 No.3359998

>>3359992
there's a lot more to clone with the C64 than there is with the NES

you actually have to clone the VIC-II, the SID, the CIA chips maybe even more

the only really exclusive stuff to the NES was the PPU and sound generation which was part of their 6502 clone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:43:37 2016 No.3360001 >>3358749 >yfw Will be more weak than a raspiberry pi

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:43:42 2016 No.3360002 >>3359992 Right but that's because Commodore were still using the outdated 70s NMOS process. Most chip fabs had switched to CMOS during the 80s and I would take a safe gamble that the NES chipset uses CMOS, which is also still used while NMOS isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:45:12 2016 No.3360004 >>3359998 WDC still manufactures CIAs, although it's a newer CMOS variant that's not 100% like the original 6522.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:46:31 2016 No.3360007 File: 369 KB, 1024x765, 8556640677_f666edb0a2_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359989 >NOACs didn't exist back then

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:47:57 2016 No.3360013

>>3359992
NES used fairly standard hardware, there was really only two completely unique parts, the CPU(2A03/2A07) and the PPU.

The CPU could be half-assed if you didn't mind shitty sound so that's how a lot of famiclones ended up getting that part. The PPU was probably decapped and reversed or someone took the schematics

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:48:15 2016 No.3360014 >>3359998 Really just the core chipset you mentioned. I guess the only other thing are the low-capacity DRAMs which aren't manufactured anymore however a C64 can use SRAMs with some l33t hax0r tricks (a guy on Lemon64 actually did it).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:49:16 2016 No.3360016 >>3360007 the SNES mini doesn't run on a shitty NOAC glob though >>3360014 i'd imagine it would be even easier from scratch since you don't have to rely on old commodore parts

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:49:44 2016 No.3360017

>>3360013
>The PPU was probably decapped and reversed or someone took the schematics
Uh huh. There was talk about decapping the VIC-II/SID to reverse engineer them on Lemon64 but even if you did it, that still doesn't solve the problem of how they used an obsolete chip fab process.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:49:49 2016 No.3360019

>>3360013
>The CPU could be half-assed if you didn't mind shitty sound so that's how a lot of famiclones ended up getting that part.
What I meant is the CPU was basically a standard 6502 with a sound processor embedded in it so bootleggers just stuck a 6502 in there with a half-assed sound processor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:51:04 2016 No.3360021 >>3359997 >HD television with (I assume) that damn lag being gone. There is sadly no LCD tv that has 0 lag it inherently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:51:32 2016 No.3360023 >>3360017 i thought most of the SID decapping had been done but the guy unfortunately got cancer and died before he could finish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:53:12 2016 No.3360025 >>3360021 No display has 0 lag. You can't cheat physics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:53:33 2016 No.3360026 >>3360014 http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56301 Here. He replaces the 41464 RAM in a C64C with a homemade SRAM board, but it did require some clever hackery because of how the C64 accesses memory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:53:50 2016 No.3360027 >>3360016 By the way, I remember only the Russians giving a damn about creating a 1:1 clone of the original. China always went with the cheapest option.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:55:16 2016 No.3360032 >>3360027 i thought most russian clones were actually taiwanese i think that's how the dendy was produced actually

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:55:52 2016 No.3360034 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64 God. Dammit. I spent half an hour adding info to this page the other day only for some nigger to go and revert everything. I hate when this happens, I really do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:56:55 2016 No.3360037 >>3360034 Totally on topic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:57:24 2016 No.3360039 >>3360034 You can post your changes here anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:57:47 2016 No.3360041 >>3360034 >but unsourced and with many mistakes (kernal) >kernal >mistake loling irl

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:58:18 2016 No.3360043 >no DQ3 Damn it

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 16:58:21 2016 No.3360045

I'm not reading too much about it, but I guess it is kinda neat. Hopefully the neo-NES pads will be good because they might be a good way to harvest brand new parts for legit controllers at an affordable price, even better if they make a Famicom version.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:00:57 2016 No.3360049
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>>3360032
this anon is right. Steepler threw their own brand on things but all the hardware and carts that had their name on it were right out of Taiwan.

The only one that does perplex me a bit is the Dendy classic, which has a form factor that I haven't seen on any other famiclone. The Dendy Jr. was just a branded famicom, but the Dendy classic seems to have been designed specifically for the former Soviet market. I've never seen another famiclone that uses this design.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:01:11 2016 No.3360051

>>3360034
My personal favorite Wikipedia story?

>back in 2009, I edited some pages on Civil War battles
>dude reverts all of them for being unsourced and "historical fiction" whatever that means

>almost four years later, I went back and edited the page on the Battle of Fredericksburg
>surprise, it gets reverted by the EXACT SAME guy

I am not making this up. Four entire years later and this same dude is still patrolling Civil War articles like the night watchman at a prison.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:02:13 2016 No.3360056 >>3360041 I'm willing to gamble the guy who reverted it was some Yuropoor Commodorefag with bad English skills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:03:16 2016 No.3360059 >>3360056 but it's just so strange to me kernal is an actual article on that site too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:05:11 2016 No.3360061 File: 24 KB, 500x471, MP6_Luigi[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359984 They were wrong back then, but know i'm sure i'm right. You can't get VR with 2D graphics. Poor '93, they knew nothing.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:06:13 2016 No.3360062

>>3359697
I thought it was image related, not legal, around when nintendo re-released the game without the mike tyson liscense he as going through an image crisis, having just bitten off the ear of an opponent in the ring and being accused of being a woman beater in court. I would assume that it was simply that nintendo no longer wanted some one with such a bad image on/in one of their products.

>>	Anonym⌀us Thu Jul 14 17:06:15 2016 No.3360063 >>3359986 ah, right, I forgot it had that >four extra sound channels >scanline-based IRQ counter >tons more tiles available >every backgroud tile can have different colors fuckin' hell, it's like NES+

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:08:56 2016 No.3360065

>>3360051

Wiki attracts autists moreso than pokemon and DC comics.

They are the borederline savant kind of autsits who are almost useful sicne they are living databases on the topic that triggers them, but they will tard rage very easily the moment something is slightly out of place.

On wiki they are like trolls living under a bridge and allow none to pass. For the first time in their lives they have a taste of power and authority. Your sources must by rock solid to get past them.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:09:10 2016 No.3360067

>>3360062
>>3359697
oh, I didn't realize it was the current system release you were talking about, in that case I would think it would still be the case, he is still seen as not a very nice guy, I don't think nintendo would go out of their way to get his name on their prodcut.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:11:41 2016 No.3360070 >>3359561 >the good old days of games with actual gameplay value I'm sure we still have a few games of that sort today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:12:19 2016 No.3360072 >>3359951 hahaha this reads like the sort of posts we get here now, but talking about the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:12:45 2016 No.3360073 >>3360065 >Wiki attracts autists moreso than pokemon and DC comics. How does it compare to /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:22:35 2016 No.3360086 File: 97 KB, 640x480, drakon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3359838

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:22:50 2016 No.3360087 >>3358774 They already have those

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:28:03 2016 No.3360102 >>3359168 >ARM >not a real computer you are dumb

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:30:13 2016 No.3360104

I would pay more for the following games
Blaster Master
Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
Earthbound Beginnings
Super C
Chip 'N Dale: Rescue Rangers
Gargoyle's Quest II
Rygar
Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones
Metal Storm
Crystalis
River City Ransom
Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:30:31 2016 No.3360106 >>3359957 >and you could still find video games in supermarkets Fuck yes. The local Safeway had Kangaroo back in the early 80s. It was the only place I ever found the arcade version of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:31:33 2016 No.3360107 >>3360104 Super C is one of the games included, bro. >Double Dragon 3 Ummm... that game is shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:31:53 2016 No.3360108 >>3359306 or the Acorn Archimedes for that matter, which was a british home computer that was the first device to use an ARM based processor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:33:04 2016 No.3360109 I've never seen a thread hit the bump limit so fast on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:33:12 2016 No.3360110 >>3359279 Source? I'm interested in this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:33:35 2016 No.3360114 >>3360086 He was trying to make a front loading N64 apparently? Why?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:34:56 2016 No.3360116

guys im getting a little worried abot how much attention this thing has gotten outside of us retarded autistic retro gamers, they did a fluff peice abot it on the local news 5 minutes ago, and all the major news outlets are running stories about this thing, do you reckon this thing will burst teh bubble or just make the bubble more bigger? I could see those discusting normies who don't give a toss abot nintendo jacking up the price of that old NES they find in the closet up to 400 bucks easily, god it make me so angry oh well who cares i'll prolly get one anyway so i can play nintendo on the crapper cause i can't figure out taht gay fucking retarded ass raspberry pie bull fucking shit oh well who cares bye

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:35:24 2016 No.3360119 >>3360106 I remember those CD collections of shareware and freeware games being sold in supermarkets and hardware stores in the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:36:04 2016 No.3360123 >>3360116 Are you drunk?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:37:01 2016 No.3360126 >>3360116 are you an idiot or is this a troll post?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:41:02 2016 No.3360137 >>3359279 >friendlier GUI A DOS 1.0 command prompt would be friendlier. >>3360049 You've led a sheltered life. Its a 501 with a commie label.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:41:33 2016 No.3360139
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>>3360119

No I am talking the actual arcade machine.

Every grocery store had 1-2 arcade games up at the front near the customer service counter and the carpet cleaner rentals (back when they had those as well).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:50:14 2016 No.3360163 >>3359308 Or if the games had an extra chip like the SuperFX chip. I recall some NES games also had extra chips on the board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:52:44 2016 No.3360172 >>3359409 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:01:49 2016 No.3360203 >>3359869 what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:06:01 2016 No.3360223 RESELLER SCUM ON SUICIDE WATCH BUBBLE = BURST

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:17:04 2016 No.3360252 Confirmed for no way to add new games. This Nintendrone is going to take a pass. I might buy the controller though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:19:42 2016 No.3360263 >not including a proprietary cartridge slot to release new game compilations on for cheap to extend the life of this thing and make mad dosh in the future ya blew it ninty but they'll still make millions

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:24:28 2016 No.3360273

>>3359993
I can agree with this

Then again, I thought the SNES mostly sounded pretty terrible as well with samples sounding like they were being heard from a room or two away. Console games in general didn't get actual good sounding music until CD-based consoles came about :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:36:15 2016 No.3360316 >>3360137 >>3359279 you can put about any GUI you want on on a pi you dunces

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:38:34 2016 No.3360320 >>3359993 the genesis actually had a very good sound chip, the whole thing about it being shit is a myth based on lazily programmed games. This is coming from a nintendofag by the way.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:47:55 2016 No.3360340

>>3360320
It always seemed to me like the sound chip in the genesis was trying to go for an arcade sound, it sounds very similar to 80s arcade games.

SNES on the other hand was trying to sound like a keyboard, which by extension means it was trying to sound like actual instruments.

it's totally subjective which one you prefer, both could either be great or terrible depending on who was doing the programming. the only stupid thing is arguing that one is objectively better than the other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:27:38 2016 No.3360434 >>3359860 Did Drakon never learn how to solder or does he just have some kind of techno-bukkake fetish?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:28:57 2016 No.3360437 >>3360434 >or does he just have some kind of techno-bukkake fetish? >not a hot glue fetish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:34:45 2016 No.3360450 >>3358749 It's a toy for nostalgic casuals like myself and I'm going to get one, it'll be my first gaming related purchase in 3 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:47:40 2016 No.3360479 >>3358763 Not bad, although I don't understand the why only Double Dragon 2 and Mega Man 2.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:51:21 2016 No.3360486

>>3360434
There's probably a story behind it. Someone must have jewed him on one of his mods by claiming the console was broken during shipping and he had to repair it or something so he decided to never allow that to happen again so he just applies hot glue to everything to prevent everything from moving around.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:04:38 2016 No.3360513

>>3359581
>for FREE
I'm willing to pay for creation, I'm not willing to pay for someone else to do ctrl-c, ctrl-v, I can do that myself just fine. There's no reason why distribution should cost anything,

>if he didnt want it to be free he shouldnt have invented it in the first place
what they "want" is completely irrelevant. They can't police thought. They're free to not do it, if they don't like the terms

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:24:27 2016 No.3360562 >>3360340 well the genesis was about arcade style games so that makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:26:15 2016 No.3360570 >>3360316 Reading comprehension faggot. Not the cool Freddie Mercury or even Liberace kind. Just a a 100% ignorant faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:34:03 2016 No.3360593 >>3359698

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:58:11 2016 No.3360646 >>3358818 New Zealand here, can't find NES/SNES hardware or controllers for shit, would definitely be keen on good quality controllers for my PC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 20:59:00 2016 No.3360648 >>3360570 what? you post literally makes no sense, was that meant as a response to a different post?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 21:01:46 2016 No.3360654 >>3360570 I'm ignorant because I pointed out that you can put about any type of GUI you want on a pi? that makes no sense as it's true. In fact you can even put any OS that runs on an ARM chip on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 21:04:51 2016 No.3360661 >>3360654 ah, never mind they were talking about retroarchs gui, in that case there are front ends that support it, I never liked retroarch for other reasons though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 21:13:56 2016 No.3360678 So what, is this just a Virtual Console box? Fuck that >tfw already emulating onto a PVM and play the games at their native resolutions anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:08:25 2016 No.3360950 >>3358818 There's certainly a shortage of non-knockoff excellent condition ones. >>3360646 Same, I await a snes mini purely for that. I'll buy like 4-5 controllers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:16:31 2016 No.3360964 >>3358818 >So? It's not like there's a shortage of actual NES controllers... You can easily find NES controllers but a lot of them are flimsy chinkshit quality things. Most of the original controllers are worn out and/or need a lot of cleaning.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:24:35 2016 No.3360987 >>3360964 >but a lot of them are flimsy chinkshit quality things what makes you think this one is any different?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:32:29 2016 No.3361027

>>3360987
Nintendo already knows that people will even buy the controllers purely for emulation purposes, so making low quality ones would bite them in the ass because if they were low quality chinkshit, word would quickly spread and people wouldn't buy them, in turn losing them a good portion of profit. They'd make even more money if they released an "official" wiimote extension > usb controller adapter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:33:09 2016 No.3361030 >>3360987 Never had a Nintendo controller that felt bad I doubt they'd bother starting here.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 23:35:11 2016 No.3361036

>>3361027
>so making low quality ones would bite them in the ass because if they were low quality chinkshit, word would quickly spread and people wouldn't buy them
You'd think word of mouth would work on Nintendo anything? You're quite naive

>>3361030
how many remake/nostalgia cash-in Nintendo controllers have you bought?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:21:15 2016 No.3361171 >>3361036 >word of mouth When it's negative? Yes. Also how many "cash-in nintendo controllers" even exist? None come to mind.

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:25:20 2016 No.3361181

>>3361171
>When it's negative? Yes.
When it's Nintendo? No. People brush it off as hating on a beloved company. Jealousy or whatever.

>how many "cash-in nintendo controllers" even exist? None come to mind.
bingo, this is the first, so assuming it'll resemble the original controller, or have a somehow superior build quality is questionable at best. There are stronger indicators this one is sold on emotional appeal, not build quality

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:43:49 2016 No.3361223 >>3361181 I'm pretty confident shit build quality would spread pretty well, when nintendo is generally known for pretty solid build quality. Why do you think shit's known as nintendium?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:47:30 2016 No.3361234 >>3361223 >Why do you think shit's known as nintendium? You know how the NDS lite got shit for being flimsy? Shit still sold well as fuck. Nintendium is a mythical material by now, hasn't been used since the original DMG

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 02:29:18 2016 No.3361410

>>3361181
The classic controller has already more buttons (it's modeled after the SNES one after all), that already include all the ones this novelty controller has. I really don't see any point from it, other than shaving off money from gaming hipsters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 02:34:18 2016 No.3361415 >>3361410 >I really don't see any point from it don't buy it then. Others see the point, and may or may not consider a purchase

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 03:08:59 2016 No.3361485 >>3361234 NDS was a fucking tank sport. Think you're confusing it with the DSL. Which is more age appropriate for you.

>>	None !vXKh1ytRio Fri Jul 15 04:49:50 2016 No.3361650 >>3361234 >>3361485 Oddly, my original DS hinge snapped a few months ago when it slipped ~50cm off my bed onto (albeit fairly unforgiving) carpet, while my DS lite didn't have any negative after effects after doing the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 08:27:06 2016 No.3361910 >>3361650 >Oddly Not so odd. It happened to dozens of people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 12:50:54 2016 No.3362283 >>3361485 >Think you're confusing it with the DSL >You know how the NDS lite got shit for being flimsy? >NDS lite want to try again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 14:02:35 2016 No.3362439 >>3362283 Never owned a DS lite, I see

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 14:08:50 2016 No.3362461 >>3362439 the only system in the DS line that I own, and I like it. Nice deflection though. Anon claimed I confused the NDS with the NDS lite, although I clearly mentioned the NDS lite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 15:57:54 2016 No.3362692 >>3359375 The money doesn't even go to the creators anymore. Most left their companies years ago.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 23:13:51 2016 No.3363417 >>3362692 Most discussions of this nature are really about copyright term length and not about the fundamental philosophy of copyright transfer (otherwise you're devaluing creators' ability to sell their work to an investor at all).

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