Unpopular opinons: /vr/ edition >The N64 was not only underwhelming as a console, it had a poor library to boot with only a few gems. It cannot touch the PS1 in terms of quality of games and content.

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Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:46:40 2013 No.335401 [Reply] [Original]

Unpopular opinons: /vr/ edition

>The N64 was not only underwhelming as a console, it had a poor library to boot with only a few gems. It cannot touch the PS1 in terms of quality of games and content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:46:40 2013 No.335414 I love nintendo but even I know this is true

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:49:40 2013 No.335434 Fuck JRPGs. only good ones are Dragon Quest and Mother.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:52:40 2013 No.335467 File: 1.99 MB, 500x335, 1359667674831.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be poor >get n64 in 2002 >dont have to deal with a small drivel of games >theyre already all out

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:54:40 2013 No.335496 >>335401 Maybe. The N64 had a large collection of mediocre titles but the few games that were system sellers were highly polished. That was thanks to Rare, without them the N64 wouldn't have been worth owning.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:54:40 2013 No.335503

While I agree with you, OP, I maintain that the N64 (like the Wii and Xboxes) is a "party" console. 4 controllers, along with all those pick-up-and-play games, along with not staring at loading screens for 45 seconds while your disk drive farts itself up to play a 50 hour JRPG.

The PS1 is for gamers. The N64 is for normal people who don't find 30+ hour games fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:56:40 2013 No.335520 >>335467 best way to experience gaming imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:02:40 2013 No.335569 >>335401 >listing the Tony Hawk Games They were on the N64 as well. >C&C games Were they actually playable on the console?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:03:40 2013 No.335576 File: 86 KB, 640x480, mario64_3jpg.jpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Super Mario 64 was not a very good game.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:03:40 2013 No.335579

>>335401
That's not an unpopular opinion at all.
Literally everyone was saying this when the N64 was a new console. You could find piles of used consoles at game stores.
Most of the people who act like it's the greatest thing ever made are the ones who had it as their first console as kids.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:31:40 2013 No.335867 >>335576 It certainly hasn't aged well. I liked the game back then, but SMG/2 are much more fun to play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:49:40 2013 No.336078 >>335576 Sunshine > 64

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:51:40 2013 No.336103 >>335886 That's what an opinion is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:52:40 2013 No.336119 But a bunch of those games arent even PS exclusives...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:54:40 2013 No.336141 Limited lives and continues, plus no saves or passwords usually means that I will not even bother with a game, because I hate both, cheating and having to play the same shit over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:56:40 2013 No.336172 >>335401 >Recommended Platformers >Croc I think you should replay this one some time. It's horrendous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:56:40 2013 No.336174 File: 166 KB, 551x810, 1363623595362.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Classic Resident Evil is better than classic Silent Hill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:58:40 2013 No.336196 >>335401 A lot of them were on PC & much better on PC Some of them were on N64 as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:58:40 2013 No.336207 >>336174 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:02:40 2013 No.336273 >>335503 The N64 had perfect Dark but it had no Tekken or any good 3D fighter. There was just nothing there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:02:40 2013 No.336279 >>336174 In terms of gameplay, Resident Evil is a bit more fun. Silent Hill outshines every other category though, and has a more lasting experience overall. I still love them both nearly equally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:03:40 2013 No.336286 >>336273 tekken was about as 3D as smash bros. Which was also a fighting game

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:05:40 2013 No.336309 >>336286 There was a smash bros on N64? When did that come out? Must've been pretty late. anyway, smash bros is a bit too simplistic for my taste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:05:40 2013 No.336318 >>336309 how the hell did you not know this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:05:40 2013 No.336320 >>336174 What? Not really.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:06:40 2013 No.336325 >>336172 I remember the controls sucked. Camera may have sucked but every platformer then had a shitty camera. I enjoyed the simplistic design though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:10:40 2013 No.336367 >Fighting games >PS1 Why would you ever? It didn't have the best version of any of them and most of them weren't even playable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:11:40 2013 No.336380 >I like Genesis more than SNES >Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:14:40 2013 No.336418 >>335569 >N64 C&C games palyable No less so than the PC version, tbh. Of course, you miss any and all cinematics, so the immersion is, err... Not there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:14:40 2013 No.336430 >jittery cardboard graphics >loading times >didn't even have analogue sticks at first >no games at launch >generally shitty multiplayer >heaps and heaps of mostly average Final Fantasy clones Nah, the N64 was the better choice back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:16:40 2013 No.336446 >>336367 >weren't even playable What? Saturn had better ports but nobody had one. PSX fighting games were plenty playable. What re you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:17:40 2013 No.336461 >>335496 And Rare was at its best while working for Nintendo.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:17:40 2013 No.336463

>>335867
SM64's graphics & camera are, well, what you'd expect from a 1st attempt at 3d. Horrendous.

OTOH, it has fantastic non-linearity and often multiple, unique ways to get a star. You're not railroaded in a specific direction, you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want, in whatever way you want to do it. In this regard, SM64 remains unmatched by its successors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:18:40 2013 No.336481 >>336309 Are you retarded ? That's like not knowing about Super Mario Bros. for the NES

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:21:40 2013 No.336518 >>336481 Lol, it's not that big of a franchise to people who aren't die hard Nintendofags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:21:40 2013 No.336523 >>336446 Outside of Tekken going from arcade to PS1 was basically equivalent to chewing your own hands off. Obviously, this doesn't say anything about any of the ones that didn't have arcade versions, but those were all ass anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:21:40 2013 No.336524 >>336518 you are absolutely retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:21:40 2013 No.336525 File: 29 KB, 400x227, z031607snake_plissken.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ghost Babel is the best Metal Gear game. There, I said it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:22:40 2013 No.336540 >>336279 RE2 is a tough customer to compare. The original hasn't aged well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:24:40 2013 No.336568 >>336540 That's why we have REmake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:26:40 2013 No.336594 File: 32 KB, 318x512, celebrity-pictures-george-clooney-sean-connery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>335401 >monster rancher >rpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:28:40 2013 No.336629 The games that happened to be gems on the N64 made it more than worth owning the console. I guess I'm one of those rare people that preferred it to the PS1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:43:40 2013 No.336818 The thing is, the N64 (and as well as the GameCube) had what were called "Killer Apps", a piece of software that justifies purchasing a console. The Wii could be argued whether it has a killer app or not, but the Wii U has fucking nothing.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:01:40 2013 No.337059

The Game Boy has a horrific sound chip. Sure it's more advanced than the NES, but very few games actually sound okay. The noise channel with it's relatively sloppy "GHH GHH" sounds and the sawtooth wave sound really odd. Not to mention that the digitized sample channel is actually worse than the NES' in clarity, and you have to turn off the Noise when you have to use it as opposed to having 5 sound channels like the NES.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:06:40 2013 No.337116

The Virtual Boy is a very interesting system. It's mostly an unfinished prototype that somehow got out in the market, but I'm glad we've got to try it, the 3D effect is impressive for its time, and the library, while very very small, is comprised of mostly decent to great games.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:12:40 2013 No.337161

I agree OP, I feel this way about the Gamecube too. The contrast even seems the same with the PS2.

However, I was a nintendofanboy. kinda wish I could go back in time, even though I still enjoyed the gamecube/N64. I feel like I would have a more varied taste.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:14:40 2013 No.337179

>>336594
rpg sadly became a term which simply means "leveling up game"

Real role playing games exist without requiring the player to level up. Animal Crossing come to mind.

I forgot the term but there are basically two kind of RPGs now but rarely you will ever see anyone use the correct term anyway so it honestly don't matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:18:40 2013 No.337220 >>336818 >The Wii could be argued whether it has a killer app or not Wii Sports went a long way in helping sell that console.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:21:40 2013 No.337241 Master System > NES

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:23:40 2013 No.337271 >>335576 I have yet to find a game with more refined, concentrated 3D platforming bliss as SM64. Even Sunshine and Galaxy felt too gimmicky.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:24:40 2013 No.337282 >>335401 >Unpopular opinons: /vr/ edition more like /v/ edition we didn't have these posthumous console wars when this place first started is fanboy the only language you people speak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:25:40 2013 No.337294 >>337282 There was actually a rather civil SNES vs Genesis thread at the start.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:27:40 2013 No.337310 >>337241 in a lot of ways true, but not in the single most important one - game selection. NES simply had more better games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:28:40 2013 No.337312 >>335569 The Tony Hawk games on N64 had chopped music.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:29:40 2013 No.337321 >>337282 We can still make /vr/-style unpopular opinions without being fanboys or trolls, like >>337116 we just need to make a little effort and think about positive things rather than negative.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:30:40 2013 No.337341 >>337310 Isn't that true of a lot of Nintendo consoles though? Technically underwhelming compared to their competition, but still competitive due to a good library?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:32:40 2013 No.337362

>>337282
/vr/ isn't /v/.

We can get away with a Sonic thread without anyone posting a single image of Army porn.

We can have a debate without anyone becoming stupid over nothing.

We can actually talk about games without going off subject.

It may be hard to get used to it but forget about all of the bad habits/things from /v/. They simply don't exist here. As the other anon have stated we are pretty civil. I believe it is because of the age requirement to even know anything on this board.

>>	Loopz-kun Tue Apr 2 22:33:40 2013 No.337365 >>337179 What is a simulation game But yeah, there are RPGs that don't have leveling up. Like Monster Hunter.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:36:40 2013 No.337398

>>337321
Or we can just avoid these meta threads that just end up as troll and shitposting bait.
Unpopular opinions always spurn drama and are bait in themselves.
OPs post was bait as hell and thinly veiled Nintendo vs Sony.
What good does it have to have a separate board if it devolves into the same crap that plagued the original enough to spurn it's creation??

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:39:40 2013 No.337426 >>336525 I agree.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:42:40 2013 No.337458

Actually, I don't feel Super Mario 64 has aged all that badly. It's actually quite nice.

I am, however, bothered by the drowning animation. Nothing like Mario's lifeless body floating to the top to really spruce up a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjL5MtmnNHk

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:46:40 2013 No.337525 >>337398 Yeah you've got a point, can't change human nature. Mabe it's better to just avoid this threads...

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:49:40 2013 No.337565

>>337365
I don't really see Animal Crossing as a Sim personally. Like I know it is a common thing for sims to lack a true goal or ending but Animal Crossing seem like a game you can play forever without really making any progress. You basically living the life of another being which make me think of it as a true rpg game more then a sim.

It is really debatable though so yea. Like how much I would love to debate what make a RPG and a life sim different, I honestly don't really care anymore. So many companies choose to label their games incorrectly just to make money sometimes. I just kinda gave up on caring anymore.

If I get bored I may make a thread with that subject one day. I bet people would have different takes and opinion about it. Could be a cool thread. Kinda getting late in my area though so I don't want to start anything.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:51:40 2013 No.337585

Virtually everything on the N64 has unplayable framerate (Mischief Makers and F-Zero X are notable exceptions).

Genesis > NES > SNES > PS1 > GBC > GB > N64 > 1st/2nd gen crap

Haven't played enough SMS/GG/Saturn/TG16/NeoGeo/etc. to place them accurately, but they're probably better than N64 too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:52:40 2013 No.337607 >>337271 >gimmicky Sounds like you've just gotten jaded as you've gotten older.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:54:40 2013 No.337641 >>335579 Yeah I thought that was common knowledge about the N64 NES was my first console. It had problems, but those were mostly due to it's bizarre design. I can't see someone being that biased.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:58:40 2013 No.337673 >>337525 Seeing that all that stuff can be emulated anyway, we should really stop with these retarded console wars threads. Would be nice if we as a board could do that and just sage these endless hardware wars.

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Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:00:40 2013 No.337694

>>337341
Technically no. The NES was the most advanced home console of it's time for around 3 years, when the Master System came out. The SNES, substandard CPU notwithstanding, was second only to the Neo Geo in terms of video and audio quality. That's saying a lot since the Neo Geo is literally arcade hardware brought home. The N64 was a far more advanced system than the PS1 (more polygons + better texture cache), but because many PS1 games look better than N64 games, it's hard to believe. The GameCube was second only to the Xbox, which was a mini-PC you could hook up to your TV. The Wii and Wii U on the other hand use previous generation technology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:00:40 2013 No.337703 >>337680 see >>337398

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:01:40 2013 No.337708 >>335401 What is that japanese game right next to metal gear?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:02:40 2013 No.337721 File: 35 KB, 121x300, with great concentration.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread is surprisingly low on unreasonable/shitty opinions Only ones that raise my eyebrow: >>335576 >>336380 >>337585 >>336174

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:03:40 2013 No.337724

>>337673
Basically every console has the potential to have great games, the hardware really doesn't matter.

The thing is, not all consoles have great games. I think Legend of Zelda is the one game that is OK for n64, and I'm not even one of those drooling retard pretend nerd Zelda fans.

I can't seem to get like a console where 90% of it's library consists of mario games or other nintendo mascot games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:06:40 2013 No.337757 >>335401 That list needs more shumps

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:06:40 2013 No.337759

>>337607
I'm not saying they are not good games, I'm not even saying they aren't worse than SM64.

But when you strip it of everything save for the core platforming mechanics, and how those mechanics play into the level design, I think SM64 comes out on top.

By gimmicky I really mean twists to traditional platforming rather than making the platforming mechanics more complex and more flexible as a result. Or simply presenting level design that surpasses the challenge of SM64, but with the same mechanics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:08:40 2013 No.337770 The SNES and the Genesis both sound like shit as far as music goes. Both were a huge step down from the NES as far as quality of soundtracks go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:17:40 2013 No.337857 >>337770 I beg to differ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMSEYAYal4w

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:23:40 2013 No.337898 >>337759 and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wWHZE14hP8

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:25:40 2013 No.337910 >>336103 No, that's what dumb opinions are. Here's mine: Earthbound was a bland game. The combat/gameplay was complete garbage, the story and writing were meh. Compared to the other snes rpgs, it fell short on every aspect.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:27:40 2013 No.337927

>>337857
>>337898

Both are good songs, but I can't help but feel they would sound better on the NES. SNES and Genesis lack the intense punch of NES music.

You always get that tin can sound from the Genesis and the reverb from the SNES.

http://youtu.be/dNCrpIL2XlY

Stuff like that will always sound better in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:38:40 2013 No.338025 >>337927 Good song, really was unaware that NES was capable of producing music that is that good. I like my music to blend well with the game, as long as it does that no complaints from me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:39:40 2013 No.338032 Is it worth buying expensive flash carts to play cartridge based Nintendo and Sega games?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:43:40 2013 No.338074
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>>338032
If you're a purist, yeah. Most people wouldn't care either way, though.

I'm okay with emulation myself, though I did buy an Everdrive 64 because N64 emulation is so shite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:44:40 2013 No.338080 File: 44 KB, 154x218, 1364959595511.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People actually played the Playstation port of Rayman 2?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:49:40 2013 No.338136 >>338113 Well, yeah. But wasn't Rayman: Revolution a remake?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:51:40 2013 No.338161 >>338136 Pretty much. The hub world alone makes Revolution the definitive version

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:53:40 2013 No.338193

The reason the N64 sucked so hard was because they didn't want to change to CD's since doing so meant that developers wouldn't have to order nintendo's expensive proprietary cartridges directly from nintendo and then end up shafted if their shit didn't sell. CD's gave devs waaay more breathing room and they could control their own means of production. It became really unattractive for devs to work on nintendo, and it never really recovered in that aspect with a lot of devs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:55:40 2013 No.338208 >>338193 And they're still using proprietary media formats to this day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:02:40 2013 No.338272 >>338074 don't Everdrives come without the actual cart?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:03:40 2013 No.338279 >>337910 >This was bad because it was bad! Your opinion is just as dumb, by your logic. You have to explain why you feel the combat is garbage and why the story is meh. Don't act like you're some logical genius and then toss that out. That's stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:05:40 2013 No.338297 >>338272 Some people will sell you a custom shell. I bought mine from retrogate.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:07:40 2013 No.338315

>>337910

The combat was bland, but it's an outright lie to say that the rest of the game is bland. The characters and enemies are quirky, the music is outright bizarre and the setting itself is not something you see in a JRPG too often, especially during the SNES era when almost every JRPG was a medieval fantasy. So how can you even say it's worse compared to these other games in every area when it has a fuckton more imagination than any of them?

And I sure hope you're not one of the many Dragon Quest fanboys on this board, because the gameplay was taken straight from it and it's the only part of the game that is lacking in imagination. And it still manages to be less monotonous than any of the Dragon Quests on the system.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:10:40 2013 No.338335

>>337694

SNES had a hacked 8 bit cpu, it wasn't actually 16bit. Also, the sound chips and everything were a crazy mess making it difficult for game devs and then much later difficult for emulator devs.

N64 had a 64bit processor but hardly any games actually contained 64bit code. This actually makes it easier to emulate because it's almost all 32bit. Then there was that expansion pack, the limited cartridge sizes, and insane controllers. PS1 games put all their eye candy into pre-rendered FMVs but the N64 was forced to render everything in realtime.

Wii isn't that much more powerful than the PS2 and PS2 games are still coming out. Sometimes with cross platform games like sonic unleashed they'll release the game on the Xbox 360 and PS3 on one engine and then the Wii and PS2 on another engine, because they may as well since they're bothering to dev for something that low end.

Let's also not forget that like the Xbox, as soon as their next gen console (Wii) launched Nintendo forced Gamecube games to stop launching and port over to the Wii in order to artificially boost Wii sales (PS2 lived beyond it's 10 year lifespan).

Sega also consistently had more powerful systems than the NES.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:16:40 2013 No.338393 >>337708 Panzer Bandit

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:22:40 2013 No.338448 >>338074 Yeah, I ask since I mod all my other consoles, but that's generally not as steeply priced. I am saving at the moment though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:25:40 2013 No.338483 >>335401 >no omega boost >no tail concerto >no silent bomber >no original tenchu >no guardian's crusade umm, I feel like there's lots I'm forgetting >>336523 >waaahhh guilty gear was too hard, I can only play dumbed down fighters like smash brothers.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:26:40 2013 No.338493

>>337694
>NES most advanced of it's time
This

People seem to forget just how early the NES came out. The damn thing came out in 1983 (Famicom). This thing was getting close to arcade perfect ports of the days arcade games when people were still used to playing butchered versions on stuff like Atari. The tech behind the NES blew people out of the water when it came out.

Yes, the Master system was more powerful, but the Master System didn't come out until late 1985, over 2 years after the Famicom came out.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:31:40 2013 No.338540

>>338493
And despite that, it had two architectural flaws.

1.) You could only display up to 8 tiles on a single scanline, or horizontal line. If Nintendo didn't cheap out on the CPU, that would've been bumped to 16 tiles.

2.) There was no proper yellow.

But for a machine from 1983, it was sure as hell advanced. It was even more powerful than home computers (such as the C64) of the time.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 09:13:40 2013 No.341619
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I think banjoo kazooie (and it's sequel) is the most overrated video game of all time and most people praise it for being one of their defining nostalgia boners but don't realize it's just a dumb collect a thon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 09:21:40 2013 No.341649 >>338540 This is why I say emulating jargon makes no sense. >If Nintendo didn't cheap out on the CPU Why not just emulate that better spec CPU? Any game with slowdown is magically better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 09:50:40 2013 No.341791 >>335401 Oh man, Hogs of War was the shit. The only game that did the worms-formula in 3D well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 10:02:40 2013 No.341837 >>341619 I wouldn't say most overrated, but it's got a lot of bling to cover up its rather bland core mechanics. It's fun, but in terms of gameplay, doesn't really stand up to SM64. Rayman 2 is the best N64 platformer, btw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 10:07:40 2013 No.341862 64 Zeldas are good, but I personally don't think they deserve 'Best Video Game Ever' title. They're not even the best Zelda title.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:16:40 2013 No.342513 >>335569 I played Red Alert on PS, was totally playable, of course the cursor wasn't as good as using a mouse, but still racked tens of hours on it without any issue. The cinematics were there also.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:19:40 2013 No.342531 >>341837 Rayman sucks and he always sucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:22:40 2013 No.342548 Sonic CD has the worst level design in a "classic" Sonic game.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:27:40 2013 No.342569

>>341619
Factually incorrect.

>>341837
>doesn't really stand up to SM64

See above.

Super Mario 64 is a dull, boring, repetitive platformer with shit levels, no challenge, and awful controls. Banjo-Kazooie still holds up to this day. The only reason anybody could ever prefer SM64 over BK is pure nostalgia. It is objectively inferior in every way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:33:40 2013 No.342612 Rainbow Six on PSX wasn't that bad.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:38:40 2013 No.342650
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Night Warriors is better than Vampire Savior.

Granted, this isn't exactly an unpopular opinion in Japan, but the Darkstalkers fandom that has sprung up outside of Japan over the past few years only seems to only care about Savior (and those are the good ones...the bad ones seem to care more about fanart, crossovers, and comics more than the games themselves).

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 12:54:40 2013 No.342726 File: 35 KB, 300x328, 1349701905697.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>342569 >Factually incorrect. >objectively inferior And here's this guy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 19:17:40 2013 No.346321 >>341649 I don't think slowdown was what was caused here. Instead you got that awful flicker as different tiles were alternated.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 19:27:40 2013 No.346406

>>341619
I'd agree with you for Tooie and DK64, but I like the collection aspect of BK1, I like being able to collect everything the moment I step into a level.

Losing notes when you die or exit is BS though.

I find Collecting more Zen-like and very leading when you want to explore a world's nooks and crannies, But I do believe Tooie and DK64 kinda went overboard, especially DK64.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 19:36:40 2013 No.346460 >>342569 >Factually incorrect Superfluously redundant

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:12:40 2013 No.346759 ET was a pretty a decent game for Atari standards

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:15:40 2013 No.346781 >>346759 >decent >compared to Pitfall!, River Raid, Kaboom!, Atlantis, Yar's Revenge, and several others Noope.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:15:40 2013 No.346782
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>>346406
>Losing notes when you die or exit is BS though
Shit, it's been so long since I played I forgot about that
>Replaying that swamp level for all the notes only to die on the last 2

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:18:40 2013 No.346815

Phantasy Star 2 was a shit. The dungeons were absurdly long, the enemies that were difficult were unbalanced as fuck, and the walking speed (not to mention the slow animations of the battle) made traversing the aforementioned dungeons a complete slogfest.

If it ran on the PS4 engine, it would be a pretty solid game.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:36:40 2013 No.346931

The Genesis sound card is better than the SNES sound card on the basis that it had more character.. It was however, under-utilized.

It was the equivalent of somebody inventing a new instrument and nobody learning how to play it properly, however people like John Baker showed full well that as an instrument the Genesis sound card was easily as powerful as the SNES.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:43:40 2013 No.346975

>>336325
Croc is one of those games that was aesthetically really nice but had sub par controls and because of this the graphics and the music really overshadow the gameplay, at least until you actually play it again.

I dunno, I still enjoy it, but there is a bit of a muscle memory factor going for it. It's more enjoyable once you start to get into the swing of things.

Now Gex, there was a game with shit controls.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:51:40 2013 No.347039

Arkanoid is better than Tetris.

Blaming resellers for inflated game prices is like the grade average of a school dropping because everybody got low scores and blaming only the person that everybody cheated from for it. The reseller may have failed but that was due to incompetency, everybody else failed because they could not be bothered to study and as a result the whole school suffered.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:53:40 2013 No.347060 >special snowflakes: the thread- retro edition

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:56:40 2013 No.347083 >>346931 >sound card

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:00:40 2013 No.347132 >>347083 You say chip, I say card. Whateva, I do what I want.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:06:40 2013 No.347201 >>335434 You only think that because you're a nintendo fan. The rest of us have actually played many JRPGs, and know better...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:07:40 2013 No.347216 >>347060 Either add to the conversation, or fuck off back to /b/ you retarded ape.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:07:40 2013 No.347219 >>347060 >>347083 >implications

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:24:40 2013 No.347378

>>335401
Unpopular opinions:

>The Playstation won the console war in the 90's.
>The Saturn was a sad pile of shit that Sega should honestly not have bothered with
>Vehicular Combat and Survival Horror are two genres that should not have changed from their classic formats (what they mutated into makes me sick)
>"bad" controls do not make a game unplayable in the least
>If a game was good then, it's good now. Games don't "age" unless they're "game of the month" trash or licenced from a movie. In witch case they sucked when they were new.
>Kirby's Adventure is by far the best thing ever to come out of Nintendo
>Final Fantasy VIII is a great game
>Super Mario 64 is medeocre at best
>Resident Evil 2 is tied for first place for the best game ever made
>Metal Gear Solid is what it's tied with.
>The only console you need is a PS1. All other consloes pale in comparison in almost all imaginable ways.
>The Dreamcast COULD have topped the PS1, but morons stopped buying them and Sega jumpoed ship...
>The first 2 generations of Gameboy games (GB/GBC) were shitty, except for like 5 gems that people obsess over.
>New games are basically all on-rails shooters that let you move your character yourself. All the same, you just go where you're supposed to go, shoot who you're supposed to shoot, then you get a standard ending. Anyone who disagrees is a jackass.
>WRPGs are boring. There is such a thing as too much freedom, and at some point, they're more like medievil simulators than actual "games" (games have guidlines and goals). I'd rather spend 30 hours saving the world in a JRPG than 80 hours fucking off.
>Old Racing games are better than new ones, simply because of the ammount of options they gave you. Who wants to pick from 100 different cars in every new NFS, when you can't pick what kind of race or where to drive?
>Shorter games are better. I prefer replay value over a long one time play. It makes me feel like I got my money's worth, and doesn't eat up all of my free time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:28:40 2013 No.347408 Genesis had better action games than SNES, hands down. Nothing on the SNES could touch Gunstar Heroes/Contra Hardcorps/Dynamite Headdy. SNES also had slowdown issues, which is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:30:40 2013 No.347419 >>336430 oh yes, by the way croc was pretty bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:30:40 2013 No.347420 Mario 3 sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:32:40 2013 No.347449 >>337694 >he N64 was a far more advanced system than the PS1 (more polygons + better texture cache) you would never know though given that no one ever really bothered to actually push the thing

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:32:40 2013 No.347458

Legend of Zelda is the same fucking game every time. And it's always bad.

The Metroid series is one of the most boring and underwhelming experiences I had. And I started out with what people hail as among the best ones, the Super Metroid on the SNES. It bored me to hell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:33:40 2013 No.347472 >>347378 I agree with the aging thing you say but nothing else >>347420 Repent, sinner

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:34:40 2013 No.347474
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>Your favorite game is shit
>What you think won the console war actually lost
>Your favorite game company sucked and was terrible and I wish they were out of business
>Your preferred console is shit and its direct competitor(s) are much better
>Your preferred console also has a shit library with either only third party games, only first party games, no games, only has shovelware, etc.
>Hipster opinion because that's what these threads are for
>Retarded opinion about gaming
>Your favorite series is objectively bad
>My favorite series is the direct competition to your favorite series once again
>All the games you played as a child and have great memories of are shit and should've never been released

Did I do this thread correctly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:34:40 2013 No.347478 >>338483 >umm, I feel like there's lots I'm forgetting No Lunar No Breath of Fire 4 No Dino Crisis 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:36:40 2013 No.347503 File: 273 KB, 294x547, 1363618841598.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>347474 >mandatory samefag post agreeing with my opinions to make you feel wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:37:40 2013 No.347515 secret of mana is boring as hell and seiken densetsu 3, although pretty, is repetitive and even more boring. Terranigma is a better game than both of them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:38:40 2013 No.347527 >>347408 Are statements of fact opinions now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:41:40 2013 No.347559 >>347449 Super Mario 64, a launch game, could never have been done on a ps1. And most people were aware of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:42:40 2013 No.347580 the DKC series gets progressively better and more inventive (gameplay wise) of course DKC2 has the better aesthetics though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:43:40 2013 No.347597 >The Final Fantasy series went to shit starting with 7.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:43:40 2013 No.347601 >>347580 Known fact and basically the intention of releasing sequels. Or was the intention many years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:44:40 2013 No.347603 File: 189 KB, 1177x1442, $(KGrHqJ,!hwE9i!GdWRsBPrp!Km69w~~60_57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>347474 gameboy was a shit 4-bit console lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:45:40 2013 No.347621 majora's mask is a boring chore of a game. it is all the worst aspects of zelda in one package.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:46:40 2013 No.347628 >>347597 Obvious hipster. I bet you liked it upon release because others preferred the 2D games. >>347621 Hello another hipster, next you shall say that OoT is an overrated piece of shit while you claim your favorite is one of the Gameboy games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:46:40 2013 No.347629 >>347601 nah a lot of people still prefer DKC2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:47:40 2013 No.347647 >>346759 I actually enjoyed it too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:47:40 2013 No.347650 >>347628 >look at me look at these Hipsters Ha Ha I'm The Psychic nice try but ocarina is one of my faves. I enjoy the game boy games but my personal fave is LttP, and I've been enjoying Zelda 1 a fair bit recently.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:48:40 2013 No.347667

>>336461
Rare was already in decline by the N64. DK64 anyone? And that was due to how it was run internally. Not thanks to nintendo. No blame to microsoft. Rare started getting going with SGI and DKC. And by the time DK64 rolled out the staff was burnt out. Nobody to thank but happenstance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:49:40 2013 No.347669 >>347650 I'm glad you put that idiot in his place, did he not read the fucking first post?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:49:40 2013 No.347679 >>347628 >Hello another hipster, next you shall say that OoT is an overrated piece of shit while you claim your favorite is one of the Gameboy games. Wow you sure got him there. Way to go, pal!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:51:40 2013 No.347702 File: 2 KB, 117x125, 1362319279174.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>347679 >>347669 >>347650 Hello, samefag hipster. Mad? Maybe next time you should avoid the thread that pertains to hipsters if you want to avoid being called one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:51:40 2013 No.347703 >>347628 >next you shall say that OoT is an overrated piece of shit But it is. All Zeldas are. The first one and LTTP were alright.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:51:40 2013 No.347704 >>347628 I enjoyed 1-6. 7 was a shitfest of annoying character building and constant interrupts of the story for "hurr-durr cgi way of the future" bullshit. Now every other minute in those games is cutscenes.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:52:40 2013 No.347714

>>347628

I hate this fucking attitude

"Oh HEH look at this guy I can read his every move, I bet he likes this and this and this, HEH HEH, he's only pretending to hate Majora's Mask I bet Link's Awakening is a MASTERPIECE in his eyes though >_>"

grow up

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:52:40 2013 No.347720 >>347702 >samefag >mad 2 cop-outs in 1!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:53:40 2013 No.347725 >>347714 Please stop the obvious samefagging. Also I never said Link's Awakening was your favorite but you just did, confirmed hipster. >>347720 Still mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:53:40 2013 No.347727 >>347702 How do you feel about being wrong about my opinion on Ocarina though? did your psychic powers fail you? Don't leave me out in the cold here!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:54:40 2013 No.347737 >>347725 i dont think that's samefagging going on, you're a gigantic idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:54:40 2013 No.347746 >>347725 >Also I never said Link's Awakening was your favorite but you just did >one of the gameboy zeldas

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:55:40 2013 No.347753 >>347725 >>347702 oh cute he's gonna play the 'i was trolling all along mad hipster' card next

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:56:40 2013 No.347763 >>347725 >Also I never said Link's Awakening was your favorite but you just did, confirmed hipster. he never said that lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:57:40 2013 No.347778 >>347702 nice epic reaction image ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:57:40 2013 No.347779 >>347753 >>347746 >>347737 >>347727 >>347763 So much samefagging. Good use of a 4chan pass I suppose. Don't get so mad whenever you're the one who posts in a hipster thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:58:40 2013 No.347783 >>347779 >4chan pass HAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:58:40 2013 No.347786 >>347628 >gets mad at peoples unpopular opinions >calls them hipsters instead of trying to bring up valid counter-points Youre gonna go far in life, boy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:59:40 2013 No.347793 >>347779 why come to this thread in the first place if it's full of 'hipsters' im sorry i don't like your shitty zelda game but come on now

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:59:40 2013 No.347794 >>347779 "Hipster". You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:00:40 2013 No.347803
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>>347786
>>347793
>>347783
I don't really like Zelda, though. III was pretty good I suppose. I'm more of a Megaman fan if you wanna say it's shit and claim some other series is better.

>>347794
Super funny quote, man. Heard it a thousand times. I just wish you all could control your rage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:00:40 2013 No.347808 >>347794 Hipster clearly means they don't agree with you. Like Republican or Liberal, Casual or Tryhard. If you don't like it that's what you are. Hipster is the natural opposite of Emo. It means you aren't what I like. Right? Do I win something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:01:40 2013 No.347825 >>347803 >I just wish you all could control your rage i don't think anyone's getting angry, they just think you're an idiot (you are)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:03:40 2013 No.347838 medievil>medievil 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:03:40 2013 No.347841 >>347825 The same people (or samefag) keep(s) responding to me, seeming more irritated every time. You're one of them, do you think I care what some hipster on the internet calls me?

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:03:40 2013 No.347846

>>347803
>if you wanna say it's shit and claim some other series is better.

when did i even imply i was going to do that

you're not very good at whatever you're trying to do here, i'm not really 'raging' at you or frothing at the mouth, it's more of a sense of pity that i'm getting to be honest.

...am i NOT supposed to find majora's mask a boring chore or what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:04:40 2013 No.347854 File: 10 KB, 348x364, 1208319874922.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>347474 >those dubs

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:04:40 2013 No.347858

>>347841

do you think i care about some faggot calling me a hipster? you typed a load of bullshit as if you thought you were pulling off some amazing deduction, people proved you wrong, and then you pulled the classic 'mad' card. You're now failing to argue back and keep yelling a single buzzword that you don't even know the meaning of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:05:40 2013 No.347865 >>347858 Yeah, so amazing thinking of what hipsters like and dislike. Just the stark opposite of whatever is popular. Though, that's the purpose of this awful thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:07:40 2013 No.347880 >>347865 you never answered my question

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:08:40 2013 No.347894 File: 501 KB, 248x244, 1335639901171.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>347854 those arent dubs you fucktard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:08:40 2013 No.347895 >>347865 This is going to make you look like a retard, and I'm sorry for posting it, but the 'hipster' Zelda game of choice is Majora's Mask.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:09:40 2013 No.347909 >>347880 You never answered mine, faggot. >>347895 I'd actually say it's Link's Awakening now. Hardly any modern games have played or heard of it, OoT and MM are included in the GC collection, on Wii virtual console, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:10:40 2013 No.347912 >>347894 >7474 >not dubs There's more than one kind you know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:10:40 2013 No.347916 >>347865 why are you in this thread to begin with? if your reason is 'making hipsters mad', which you aren't really doing, then you're a pretty pathetic soul

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:11:40 2013 No.347924 >>347916 You guys are quite mad, but that wasn't the intent. I was going to post my own hipster opinions but had to do this just to see what happened.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:11:40 2013 No.347927 >>347909 answer mine first pleb

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:11:40 2013 No.347930 >>347927 shut up, casual scrub faglord redditard bitch nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:11:40 2013 No.347935 >>347924 you sure are an epic troll ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:12:40 2013 No.347943 >>347930 no you shut up.......... +++++++++++++++++++ everyone BELOW THIS IS GAY!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:12:40 2013 No.347947 >>347935 Things like that just make it more obvious. Oh well. If you think someone's trolling wouldn't the objective be to not show how mad you are and give them success?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:14:40 2013 No.347961 >>347947 i prefer le sh*tpost :P

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:15:40 2013 No.347980 The N64 controller is my favorite out of any console I've ever played. A lot of people I see, mainly younger kids, try to hold it with their left hand on the D-pad, and that upsets me because they're holding it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:17:40 2013 No.348000 >>347980 the 64 controller is great but i didn't really get why they designed it with 3 prongs, why not just move the analog to the left and not have a D-pad (not many games used it)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:18:40 2013 No.348006 >>347980 Z trigger was a pretty amazing thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:18:40 2013 No.348015 >>348000 Nice trips, and thank god for the d-pad otherwise Mortal Kombat Mythologies would've been impossible to beat on N64.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:19:40 2013 No.348026 >>348015 Is that the game where you have to press B to turn around? Fuck that game

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:22:40 2013 No.348057

>>341649
Slowdown is only caused by needlessly overloading the CPU and not optimizing the code as best as you can. Recca is an example of an NES game that rarely slows down, and Magic Dragon, a pirated port of R-Type, has many objects on screen at once with absolutely no slow down at all. Shame that Magic Dragon looks and sounds terrible. The programmer must've been a huge fan of R-Type.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:46:40 2013 No.348387

My favorite Zelda game is Oracle of Seasons, but, rather than it being so because of being a hipster, it's my favorite because it was my first.

Wouldn't a hipster like Zelda II the most anyway, since Zelda II is so different and has never been duplicated?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 00:03:40 2013 No.349125 >Unpopular opinons Please never make this thread on /vr/ again. The idea is not to devolve into an idiotic /v/-like hive mind. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:12:40 2013 No.349628 >>336518 >damage control

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:23:40 2013 No.349710 >>342569 >Factually incorrect. >objectively inferior >>>/v/ Run home, and never return. This is no place for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:28:40 2013 No.349742 >>338335 >Wii isn't that much more powerful than the PS2 That's wrong though. The Wii is pretty close the the original xbox in terms of raw power. And the GCN was pretty beefy compared to the ps2. Every GCN > PS2 port suffered losses in quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:30:40 2013 No.349759 >>335401 OP is an obvious /v/irgin faggot from /v/ trying to make /vr/ a shithole like /v/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:32:40 2013 No.349770 >>348387 >Wouldn't a hipster like Zelda II the most anyway, since Zelda II is so different and has never been duplicated? I'd imagine that most Zelda II is numba one fans were probably 11 when the game came out and really like castlevania.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:46:40 2013 No.349907

>fighting games
Super Turbo isn't one of the top 20 fighters of all time. Neither is any game in the MvC series.
Super Smash Bros is a fighting game.

>strategy
Age of Empires II is massively overrated and has been done better by Rise of Nations. Brood War and the 1998-2003 C&Cs are better.
Any TBS ever made would be better as an RTS, but much harder on the developer.

>Japanese SRPGs
If you take the S out, you get JRPGs, which is a misnomer because the japanese have never managed to make a game that succeeded as an RPG, despite their mastery of VNs. Most JRPGs can be summed up as really fucking awful TBTs and Hack-and-slashes marketed to savants and oblivious fucks.

>First Person Shooters
Strafejumping is a bad and unintutive mechanic and so is bunnyhopping in general.

>Third Person Shooters that don't have a heavy focus on melee combat
Jesus christ, why? Why does this even exist? Holy shit, what? My god.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:02:40 2013 No.350049 >>349907 >If you take the S out you get JRPG's no... you get RPG's...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:05:40 2013 No.350067 >>336525 But that's correct.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:09:40 2013 No.350093 ITT: Opinions Mega Man X and Legends > Mega Man Classic Paper Mario > Super Mario RPG R-Type > Gradius Sonic > Mario Streets of Rage > Final Fight Dragon Quest > Mother > Phantasy Star > Final Fantasy Discuss.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:21:40 2013 No.350169

>Final Fantasy 7 is a complete pile of shit with very few redeeming qualities.

>Ocarina of Time is an overrated piece. I cannot see how anyone thinks it is so great. Majora's Mask is the pinnacle of Zelda.

>Resident Evil 4 ruined the series

>Book of Memories was good, though not as Silent Hill

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:25:40 2013 No.350189 I'm playing through MGS1 again and the dialogue, scripts and VAs are nothing short of cringeworthy >it had to be you, you had a great ass >I don't even wear makeup, notiem on the battlefield

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:26:40 2013 No.350192 >>335401 >The N64 was not only underwhelming as a console, it had a poor library to boot with only a few gems. It cannot touch the PS1 in terms of quality of games and content. But... this is true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:26:40 2013 No.350193 >>350093 Paper Mario > Super Mario RPG Sonic > Mario Streets of Rage > Final Fight These are unpopular opinions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:28:40 2013 No.350204 >>350193 I'm just as surprised as you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:29:40 2013 No.350206 How is that unpopular OP? That's what every sony fanboy used to say. If the PSX sold better was thanks to piracy. sage for shit taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:30:40 2013 No.350209 >Unpopular Opinions thread! >Here's a popular opinion I hold, guys. Now you post your unpopular opinions! Signed, OP of 100% of these threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:30:40 2013 No.350210 Am I stupid or does the place in step 3 of OP's picture not exist anymore?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:30:40 2013 No.350214 >>350093 Phantasy Star (Classic) > Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy > Phantasy Star (Online)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:35:40 2013 No.350246 >>350206 you are saging because you have shit taste?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:37:40 2013 No.350258 FF6 is one of the worst FFs there is. There's no main plot other than xD random Kefka getting lucky.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:42:40 2013 No.350287

>>347378
>The Dreamcast COULD have topped the PS1, but morons stopped buying them and Sega jumpoed ship...
Problem was that DC was supposed to compete with PS2, not with PS1.
Of course I'm not denying its potential, it just didn't make the cut as a 6th gen system. (mostly due to Sega releasing shitty gimmicky hardware and equally gimmicky games instead of securing good exclusives, just like everything they've done since Genesis)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:43:40 2013 No.350290 >>350258 It's fine to have that opinion, but leave the fucking xD at /v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 11:19:40 2013 No.352480 >>347378 >The 32X and SegaCD were sad piles of shit that Sega should honestly not have bothered with. FTFY

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 11:26:40 2013 No.352502 >>338540 >it was even more powerful than home computers (such as the C64) of the time That's highly debatable. Compared to the glory that was the SID chip, most NES music is bleepy 6-note loops.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 11:28:40 2013 No.352512 >>335579 I could pull up old Usenet posts from 1996 showing that people widely disliked the N64

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 11:38:40 2013 No.352556 >>342569 Mario 64 doesn't have any challenge while BK does? Hahaha what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 11:44:40 2013 No.352590 >>342569 >objectively will you fucking stop that shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:02:40 2013 No.352712 Here's mine: Silent hill 1 Very nice game Silent hill 2 ULTRA SPECTACULAR GAME ART IN VIDEOGAMES PLOT BETTER THAN SHAKESPEARE The rest of SH: shitty commercial shit for emos, who really didn't get what was good about the first two.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:17:40 2013 No.352812

You know what?
I don't really like most Nintendo franchises saved for Kirby.
Megaman is extremely boring and not worth the time.
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 is the pinnacle of strategy games.
Casual gamers did ruin the market.
There is no real need for another generation of videogames.
The PSX and PS2 where the best videogames in all history and all arguments against this claim is either made by die-hard fanboys or people who generally do not understand videogames.
Zelda is shit and the only enjoyable game in the series was Link's Awakening and maybe Zelda 2.
I don't really like retro games at all, I play them to learn about the history of videogames and sometimes amuse myself with games like Zoop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:25:40 2013 No.352868 The N64 had less games that were great, but the games that were were much more memorable than the PS1's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:34:40 2013 No.352937 >>347201 I'm a nintendo fan but I love many rpg's...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:38:40 2013 No.352965 >>352712 do you even sh4?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:39:40 2013 No.352973 >>352965 Hey man i know it's impopular, but i sh4 hard and i really think you didnt get 1 and 2 if you think that is similar in any but the most superficial way

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:40:40 2013 No.352980 >>352965 The Super Mario Bros. 2 of the Silent Hill world?

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 13:15:40 2013 No.353225

>>337770
>>337927
I AM not the only one who thought so! Both the Genesis and the SNES had some amazing music, but only on a few games.

For the most part, I always found that the (surprisingly simple) music on the NES, as well as the sound effects, had a lot more impact than SNES/Genesis did.

Than there's the TG16 that had an interesting combination of NES style sound with what sounds like a few extra sounds from an '80s style synthesizer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 13:39:40 2013 No.353370 >>342569 >objectively Man, I hope you're a kid and didn't somehow make it to adulthood without learning the difference between opinions and facts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 13:47:40 2013 No.353449 >>352868 >The N64 had less games that were great, but the games that were were much more memorable than the PS1's. well that's just complete bull shit.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 13:56:40 2013 No.353523

>>353225
I dunno, on the SNES, Super Mario World, Actraiser, F-Zero, Link to the Past, Final Fantasy 4/6 and Killer Insinct all had great music. Those are just off the top of my head. I think really good game music is usually pretty hard to come by. I don't think it took a big dive during the SNES/Genesis era. I'm not a Sega guy though, so I can't really speak to the Genesis library.

I do think though that over time, game music has gotten worse and composers have gotten lazier. In the old days, since you were working with a very limited toolset, it was imperative that your music was catchy and memorable. Nowadays, it's too easy to just cover up boring music by using tons of samples or even worse, recording a generic orchestral score.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 16:08:40 2013 No.354656
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>>336525
You.

I like you.

Also,the Black Chamber were the only group of antagonists in the series that could compare to FOXHOUND. Picrelated is an awesomely creepy fuck and is worth the price of admission alone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 16:21:40 2013 No.354778 >>353225 C64 > NES when it comes to music. NES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9aa2hI8pvw C64 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okwoIGDjoQI

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