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I finally picked up an SMS today, and now my Sega console family is just about complete. I currently only have three games: Outrun, Hang On, and Astro Warrior. What are some must haves for the system?

>> No.3353403

Master of Darkness is a good one that I've been playing lately. If you like Castlevania you'll like it.

Ninja Gaiden is another very good one.

Wonder Boy, Wonder Boy in Monster World and Wonder Boy III are all great. Wonder Boy III is my favourite Master System game.

The MS version of Columns is great.

Transbot is very fun.

Galaxy Force is good.

Then there are other great ones like Sonic 1, 2, and Chaos, Phantasy Star, Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, Renegade, Spy vs Spy, Alladin, Golden Axe, Teddy Boy, WWF etc.

>> No.3353487

>>3353395
Power Strike 2
Castle of Illusion/Land of Illusion
Zillion
Kenseiden
Asterix
Alex Kidd in Shinobi/Miracle World
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius
Donald Duck
Psycho Fox

Ports:
Bubble Bobble
R-type
Fantasy Zone
Double Dragon
Shadow Dancer
Shinobi

>> No.3355110

Since this is a SMS thread, is there a reason to own one instead of using the genesis power base converter?

>> No.3355116
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3355116

ZILLION

>> No.3355140

>>3355110
No. Unless you want to be able to use FM sound for some games if you buy the add on. But I think people have modded Master System Converters to have FM sound.
I use a Master System Converter to save space, but a Master System II is probably cheaper than the converter.

>> No.3355316

Wonder boy and Dragons Trap
Rastan
double dragon
Black Belt
Phantasy Star
R-type

>> No.3355326 [DELETED] 

Dynamite Dux is a pretty cool belt scroller for the SMS.

>> No.3355328

>>3355110
1) The SMS is cheaper
2) Nostalgia

>> No.3357201

Teddy Boy is fun as fuck too.

>> No.3358113

>>3353487
I've also got a Game Gear and own some games that are on Master System, namely Sonic 2 and Land of Illusion. I'm guessing the SMS versions of Sonic 1 and 2 are better because that's the platform they were designed for. The field of view is a bit too small on the GG version of Sonic 2, which causes unnecessary deaths.

Sonic Chaos and Triple Trouble were designed for the GG first and foremost so they don't have the FOV problems that I experienced with Sonic 2. I will probably pick up Sonic 1 and 2 for the SMS at some point.

At some point I'm going to pick up some Penguin Land cartridges to make reproductions of Golden Axe Warrior, and Phantasy Star with the Japanese FM audio. I'm very interested in doing an FM audio mod since that's a really distinct feature that the Game Gear doesn't have.

>> No.3360204

>>3353395
>>3353403
>>3353487
These and also Fantasy zone II and Fantasy zone 3

>> No.3360232

>>3353395
Phantasy Star
MS Sonic games

>> No.3360240

>>3358113
If you have a flash cart you can play Triple Trouble etc. hacked to play on the SMS with a bigger FOV. Check out the SMS Power hacks section.

>> No.3360272

>>3355110
Just look how sexy that dark and scarlet beast is. So slick.

>> No.3360283

Pitfall II if you don't already have it.

>> No.3360408

>>3360272
This. I'm a pure emulatorfag through and through but the SMS is the one console I actually own with a flash cart because it's so fuckin' slick lookin'.

>> No.3360456

Most of the games people mentioned are really good, indeed. If I had to choose 3 they would be Kenseiden, Ninja Gaiden and Master of Darkness because they're challenging, their gameplay is spot on and they've got a more serious atmosphere.

Bonanza bros for SMS is a port I like and Cloud Master is a competent horizontal shooter.

Anyway, if you ever get your hands on a Light Phaser I recommend Rescue Mission, Gangster Town and Wanted!.

>> No.3360557

>>3360456
They might have the light phaser at one of my local shops. I know I've seen them for sale before, and I really love light gun games.

>> No.3360571

>No one mentions Wonder Boy in Monster LAND
Ok, it's not as faithful an arcade port as the PC Engine version, but it's still a damn fun game. Last level is pure bullshit, but still a fun game.

Also, try Choplifter and Air Rescue.

>> No.3360582

Ghost House is a tough but fun game. Feels pretty arcadey for a home game.

>> No.3361281

awesome light phaser games=

wanted
shooting gallery
dead angle
safari hunt

>> No.3361601

>>3358113
Yeah the field of view in sonic 2 on GG completely ruins it.

>> No.3361607

>>3361601
I bought it a few weeks ago and I still can't get past the first boss for the life of me.

Chaos and Triple Trouble on the other hand are pretty forgiving in terms of difficulty and I never felt like they were unfair. Sonic 2 really feels like a Master System port because it just doesn't work as well on the smaller screen, which is a shame because Sonic moves a lot faster than he does in the aforementioned games.

>> No.3361979

>>3361601
>>3361607
download the gg2sms hacks i mentioned earlier

http://www.smspower.org/Hacks/GameGearToMasterSystem

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>>3353395

>> No.3363804

>>3358113
I seem to remember that the GG and SMS versions of the 8bit Sonic games being different. But I can't remember where I read that or how different they're supposed to be. I want to say level layout is somewhat different at times but I am really not sure. Could be I just heard THAT KID say something online and my dumbass thought it was true.

>> No.3363820

>>3363804
From what I understand the games are all more or less the same, except for the FOV. The FOV on the game gear is smaller than the SMS, which in Sonic 1 and 2 causes problems since they were designed around the SMS, whereas Chaos and Triple Trouble were designed around the GG.

>> No.3363830

>>3355116
Zillion goat, Metroid on suicide watch

>> No.3363837

>>3363804
The boss music is different. On GG, the first boss has an irregular pattern, and combined with the small screen its incredibly hard. The SMS one just has the balls come at the same trajectory repeatedly, making it laughably easy.

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>>3363837
I have been trying for like a week and can't beat the first boss of Sonic 2 on my Game Gear. I should give the SMS version a go next time I get paid.

>> No.3363868

>>3363860
are you the retard we told last week not to attempt it on the gg and disregarded all of our warnings?

>> No.3363869

>>3363860
Stay as close to the bottom of the slope as you can. As soon as a ball comes on screen, indentify what kind it is and get ready.

>> No.3363871

>>3363868
No I found a copy for like a dollar a month ago.

>> No.3363873

>>3363871
oh okay. well ya the gg version is unbearable.

>> No.3365904

>>3355110
I've heard the converter isn't a replacement for the console and should only be used if you already own a genesis that is compatible with the converter and are tight on cash.

>> No.3367443

>>3353395
In an attempt to not rehash the same sugestions:
Alien 3 (quite a nice version)
Mortal Kombat (2, 1, 2, Down, Up for blood)
Snail Maze (built in, catchy tune I havent been able to get out of my head even after all these years)

>> No.3369781

>>3363873
Why is the GG sonic 2 unbearable?

>> No.3369843

>>3369781
The GG has a lower resolution, and so the game has a narrower FOV on the Game Gear. It's really hard to see jumps and hazards coming.

>> No.3369854

I'm thinking about picking one up, but only know Phantasy Star being good. What are some recommended titles?

>> No.3370630

>>3367443
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>> No.3372004

>>3369854
see
>>3353403
>>3353487

>> No.3373281

>>3353395
Am I not seeing things here or was the NES vs SMS thread removed?

>> No.3373338

>>3369781
All the surprise deaths killed it for me. Sonic games are known for them, gotta go fast then gotta jump or stop to avoid spikes or enemies that appear suddenly. On the gg, imagine someone standing in front of the TV on the right side of the screen. It makes it nearly impossible to do avoid if you don't already know it's coming and react before seeing anything. It's possible, but it's very tedious and not enjoyable.

>> No.3373349
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3373349

One of my personal favorites, along with Space Harrier 3-D, Zaxxon 3-D and F-13 Fighting Falcon.

>> No.3373790

>>3353395
What about Sega Master System II? What's the differences?

Is Sonic on SMS good?

>> No.3373796

>>3373790
No RGB, and no card port.
Sonic was never good

>> No.3373813

>>3373790
The SMS2 is kind of like a shitty budget version of the SMS. It only outputs an RF signal, it can't read cards, and I think it doesn't have an expansion port. It's also uglier but that's personal taste.

>> No.3373816

>>3373813
>The SMS2 is kind of like a shitty budget version of the SMS.

Yet they call it SMS II? What kind of retard was in charge of marketing this thing?

>> No.3373838

>>3373349
I love penguinland, I had it one gameboy though.

>> No.3373969

>>3373816
It's no different to the Mega Drive II or the Slim versions of modern consoles

>> No.3374152

I sold all my master system games except Montezumas revenge

>> No.3374610

>>3373969
It is kind of different though, because there are a number of SMS games that won't play on the SMS2 since it has no card slot. You also can't use accessories like the 3D glasses (not that you'd have them anyway, but still), and it doesn't output RGB. It's more like comparing an original Gamecube with the later model where they removed the digital out jack, or how later PS3s removed backward compatability with PS2 games-- yeah, as a cost-cutting mesure I'm sure the savings added up, but if you're looking to buy one it makes for a less compelling package if you're looking for a used one.

What's more though, the original model SMS isn't rare, and in fact is more common than the model 2. Unless you're a collector there's not much reason to seek out the model 2.

>> No.3376061

The "S" in the Sega logo on my Master System is somewhat worn off, so it looks more like "bEGA" than "Sega." Maybe I should touch it up with a tiny brush and some of my fa/tg/uy paint.

>> No.3376342

>>3374610
all the western card games were also re-released as carts.

in pal regions sms2 is probably a lot more common than the first model as it found a niche as a budget console and saw about 200 more games than ntsc did - granted most of them are ports, but when they released them within a span of 2 or 3 years, beggers could indeed be choosers

>> No.3376384

>>3374610
>in fact is more common than the model 2
No it isn't.
>>3376342
You're right, the Master System was basically a budget Mega Drive, though it still got some great games of its own in that time.

>> No.3376574

>>3376342
>>3376384
The Master System was actually more successful after the third gen when it became a budget system than it was when it actually had a edge techwise over it's 8 bit competitors. I think Brazil is still manufacturing it, which would make it one of the longest supported platforms of all time.