Serious question. How to love this console?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 9 05:31:36 2016 No.3346646 [Reply] [Original]

Serious question. How to love this console?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 05:41:12 2016 No.3346657 WHAT IS LOVE? BABY DON'T HURT ME DON'T HURT ME NO MORE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 05:43:24 2016 No.3346659 don't bother. If you don't get its appeal, it's not the hardware for you. Plenty other stuff around to play

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 05:48:33 2016 No.3346663 Don't feel bad if you don't like it. No one's forcing you to love the thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 06:24:51 2016 No.3346680 If you can't appreciate Atari you're literally a 12 year old faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 06:43:11 2016 No.3346696 File: 24 KB, 256x357, River_Raid_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3346646 Download this game and play it right now. Just do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 06:51:42 2016 No.3346706 >>3346696 why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 08:48:01 2016 No.3346839 >>3346706 Not the guy who told you to, but I think it's fun, plus pitfall and some other games are great, honestly if you don't like endless arcade games much then I wouldn't recommend getting into it in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 08:50:41 2016 No.3346846

>>3346839
>honestly if you don't like
just in case, I am not OP. I tend to ask "why?" because I'm not a big fan of namedropping. If someone wants to recommend a game, because they believe it's a good recommendation, I enjoy it much more when it's backed up with details what makes it enjoyable, how it stands out from the rest of the library, etc. After all, people are seeking recommendations because they know nothing about these games. Just dropping a name is not going to help much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 09:00:04 2016 No.3346863 >>3346846 Because it's FUN. Is that better?

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 09:03:26 2016 No.3346868

Berserk.

But also like what was said before if you are having a hard time loving it now you should move on. Some people get the 2600, some don't. Don't feel bad if you don't, my love for it dates back to having one in my house since the year I was born.

Though do try to play some two player games, I find that some people who normally are not 2600 fans love to play multiplayer games on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 09:05:21 2016 No.3346872 >>3346863 no, because that's not really substantial, or informative. Your annoyance has been noted though, thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 09:51:32 2016 No.3346975 >>3346646 In one of AVGN's old reviews of an Atari 2600, he begins the episode explaining why the Atari is comfy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:07:26 2016 No.3347005 >>3346646 Once you play Warlords with 3 friends you'll understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:09:53 2016 No.3347006 >>3347005 >friends so, never? I play video games so I don't have to deal with people

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:14:59 2016 No.3347014 >>3347006 Gen 2 games all have a purity to them. If you're not trying to beat friends then you're trying to beat your own best score. The simplicity demands focus. If you don't have that focus and don't enjoy it then you won't enjoy the games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:16:52 2016 No.3347018 >>3347014 >If you're not trying to beat friends then you're trying to beat your own best score >>3347005 said friends are required

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:18:42 2016 No.3347020 >>3347006 Sucks, man. You're really missing out on Warlords. You might like Space Invaders or Centipede, they are good 'hi-score' games for loners and are unique in their own right as far as arcade conversions go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:23:27 2016 No.3347029 Enjoy gameplay over graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:23:42 2016 No.3347030 File: 133 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3347018 For Warlords. It's okay against the computer but against other players it's legitimately a great game by any standards

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 10:26:42 2016 No.3347036 >>3347029 the two are not mutually exclusive. Though you apparently suggested the 2600 games have shit graphics. How so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:00:02 2016 No.3347172 >>3346646 Did you try Spider-Man or Death Star Battle? I love those ones. I can play them for hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:17:40 2016 No.3347297 >>3347036 What? Reread what I said brug.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:24:12 2016 No.3347307

>>3347297
You didn't say much. "gameplay over graphics" suggests that you consider, for these games, gameplay more important than graphics. This "more important" relationship has the side effect that it can suggest a game with bad graphics can still be quite entertaining, when the gameplay is good, as the gameplay has more weight. You worded your statement very general, as if it applies to the 2600 as a whole. The way the statement is usually used around here is a defense mechanism, along the lines of "I know it looks like shit, but it's fun, if you get over the graphics".
So I had two statements in response. The first, that the two are not mutually exclusive, is that one does not have to favor one or the other, and good games can have good looking graphics.
The second is specifically regarding that defense aspect of your statement. So, again, why do you consider the 2600 graphics so shit, that you feel the need to defend the games by pulling a "b-b-but gameplay"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:28:04 2016 No.3347312 >>3347307 Sounds like youre the one who considers the vcs to have shit graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:30:26 2016 No.3347315 >>3347312 where did you get that? And why would someone claim it's about gameplay, not graphics, if not to suggest the graphics are admittedly not up to speed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:48:38 2016 No.3347338 >>3346975 Do you have a text of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:55:39 2016 No.3347349 >>3347338 "The Atari is comfy as fuck" -AVGN

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:55:40 2016 No.3347350 >>3347338 He says it right at the beginning of the Atari 5200 review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TpCgwihyaM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:13:54 2016 No.3347371 >>3346680 Okay grandpa

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:14:52 2016 No.3347372 >>3347350 Has he got a working controller later?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:18:00 2016 No.3347375 >>3346646 Honestly, you're better off emulating arcade games of that era.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:27:24 2016 No.3347625 >>3346646 you don't. it's a piece of shit with no redeeming qualities and belongs in a landfill. nostalgia retards are the only ones who care about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:05:07 2016 No.3347948 >>3347030 Those walls are shorter than original ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:54:58 2016 No.3348074 You have to be a kid with an imagination.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 19:59:27 2016 No.3348080

>>3346646
Get yourself a paddle and play the paddle games like Kaboom or Demon Attack. Play the more arcadish titles. Find the multiplayer titles, get a friend and play some of the two player games like Tank or Atari Olympic.

Push yourself to do decent at some of them instead of saying hey I get it, that's all there is to this but I'm bad it so I'm done. The games aren't super in depth or complex they're meant to be be tests of skills and endurance.

Take some time to explore the titles and find what works for you.

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:23:39 2016 No.3348374

The Intellivision has some of the most unique titles of any console ever made. Competition with Atari and Coleco breeded some real supreme creativity. These consoles are legendary because they were the prime before shit hit the fan and began emphasizing story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:27:03 2016 No.3348380 Play with a friend. Stuff like Gunslinger is actually fun if you have someone to play with that is down for simple, cozy games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:30:33 2016 No.3348384 >>3346646 It's impossible not to have fun playing Yars' Revenge. It's so alluring and otherworldy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:33:06 2016 No.3348386 >>3346646 Be born in 1974

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:39:07 2016 No.3348395 File: 125 KB, 295x210, WIL.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3346657 WHAT IS RIGHT? AND WHAT IS WRONG? GIMMIE A SIGN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 07:44:34 2016 No.3349046 >>3346872 Holy shit dude just pull the head out of your ass and try the games. It's not like you're diving into some 50 hour long RPG anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 07:50:04 2016 No.3349053 >>3349046 got plenty other games play at the moment. You made clear I'm not missing out on anything of value, so it's fine

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:18:40 2016 No.3349090

>>3346646
you just have to remember this is one of the very first home console systems and they were very limited and there was no established market to go on. The games are written on a cartridge that only has 4kb of memory to spare, so the games for their time were very revolutionary with what programmers had to deal with. so if you can think of that and not focus on graphics like a graphic hoar then there is a sweet list of games to enjoy on the atari sysytem. I really wish there were remakes or updated remasters of some of the games on this system. there are some games that are one of a kind like dragonfire, pitfall, venture, (etc)

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:21:29 2016 No.3349097

>>3349053
Obviously not if you're spending your time here talking about how disinterested you are in games that will take ten minutes at most to get the gist of. Like shit man by the time you read and replied to my post you could've already tried one of them out.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:23:29 2016 No.3349101
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>>3346646
I suggest playing the good stuff on that console like kangaroo, adventure, centipede and space invaders and avoid the memegames everyone knows like ET and the worst version of pac-man ever released.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:24:49 2016 No.3349103 >>3349097 been doing other stuff. Go play 'em, if you like 'em, I don't mind

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:32:45 2016 No.3349113

>>3349097
>>3349053
ok you two cool it.
I'll try to sell you on river raid.
river raid is a good atari game because its a solid top down shooter which is saying a lot coming from the atari 2600. since top down shooters didn't get as popular until around the NES era.
its got good controls and the level constantly changes so you have to watch your surroundings or you'll crash into a wall.
you also have fuel which has to get charged up at fuel tank stations, but you can blow them up too, so you can't just shoot your way through a level you have to look before you shoot. so its like a survival top down shooter game. it's a very good arcade like top down shooter for its time. which is why its always on most peoples recamended atari list

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 08:58:09 2016 No.3349134 >>3346646 Gravitar. Enough said.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 09:19:56 2016 No.3349159

>>3346646
This is the product of an era where TV was probably the major form of entertainment. You could play hide and seek, fly a kite, spin a top, you get the idea.

Games before video games were dominoes, checkers, chess, pool, cards, etc. Basically, besting someone. No wonder early games are about that be it by high score or actual multiplayer.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 09:47:36 2016 No.3349190

>>3346646
If you can understand the appeal of games like Flappy Bird, Canabalt, Robot Unicorn Attack it shares the same idea of atari and arcade games of those times in the sense that it is simple addictive gameplay, never ends and you get a high score for bragging rights.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:26:22 2016 No.3350161 Get a bag ass crt with some equally big and bassy speakers, wait till it's dark, turn off all the lights and play Yar's Revenge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:00:38 2016 No.3350221 Pitfall 2 is underrated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:07:59 2016 No.3350240 File: 49 KB, 289x400, Pitfall2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3346646 Play Pitfall II or HERO, preferably with the most 80s music you can find.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:11:57 2016 No.3350250 >>3350161 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:21:42 2016 No.3350272 >>3350240 HERO is awesome

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:22:59 2016 No.3350278 >>3350161 You know what game sounds fucking awesome? Reactor

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:33:06 2016 No.3350295 >>3350161 Add in Moonsweeper and Atlantis And Desert Falcon, Xevious, and Pole Position II on the 7800.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 20:34:57 2016 No.3350298 >>3350221 The cartridge is also expensive as holy fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:30:55 2016 No.3350402 >>3350298 Wat. Pitfall 2 is like less than 20 bucks. I guess that's expensive for an Atari game but there are quite a few that cost more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:34:11 2016 No.3350406 >>3350402 It's expensive for someone who has no job and thinks all commodities should be free.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:35:17 2016 No.3350409 >Astroblast >Beamrider >Boing! >Chopper Command >Dark Cavern >Enduro >H.E.R.O. >Jawbreaker >Laser Gates >MegaMania >Radar Lock >River Raid >Solaris >Spider Fighter >Turmoil Some of the best 2600 games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:42:09 2016 No.3350426 >>3350406 20 bucks seems pretty average these days for a game that's one of the better ones on a console but not astronomically rare. I guess it's expensive if you expect retro games to all be 3 bucks or something

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:55:11 2016 No.3350459 File: 1.31 MB, 300x169, Heavy likes.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3350409 Not bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 21:57:05 2016 No.3350465 >>3346646 Find someone else to play it with. A lot of the best games are 2 player ONLY with no vs. CPU mode.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 22:06:39 2016 No.3350493
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Get a 7800 or a XE computer and a flashcart. Theres thousands of Atari games you can play. And if you dont like the stick controller, you can always use a Genesis one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 00:21:08 2016 No.3350776 >>3350426 Most Atari games are only three bucks designed to be played for a few minutes and swapped out price-to-gameplay they're more like mobile games than a console

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 00:28:38 2016 No.3350794 Are there any atari games that were really, really ahead of their time?

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 00:36:05 2016 No.3350812

>>3346646
i've tried and i was playing it at the tail end of its life in the 80s

its a lot of games with no real impact besides most being the first in their genres and a lot of SPACE games. for a huge amount of people they will be boring. i picked up about 100 games and a console for 20 bucks, spent about 5 hours at most in the 3 years i owned it from 2012 to 2015 and sold it because, lets face it, it really is a boring system.

i can see why people can like it, but it just has no lasting appeal to me.

tl;dr it just isn't a fun system now, maybe for 5 mins, but no more.

Anonym⌀us Mon Jul 11 00:38:42 2016 No.3350818

>>3346646
You do that by throwing out every single expectation you have for complexity and detail in both graphics and level design. The earlier you grew up, and the more old games you grew up playing, the easier this is. Also maybe develop a fetish for wood-grain and fluted plastic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 00:49:38 2016 No.3350835 >>3350794 Adventure, and something called.... GORF, or something weird like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 01:04:50 2016 No.3350843 protip: love games, not consoles

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 01:32:25 2016 No.3350879
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>>3346646
>Serious question. How to love this console?

If you're a youngling you may never understand.

I'm 35 and it was the first videogame I ever played.

This console came out back when videogames did not have plots. Videogames did not have a final goal.

You have to get in the mindset that what you consider cutting edge graphics and gameplay right now will be laughed at at some point in the future

When I first played Super Mario Bros. at a friend's house after my youngest years playing an Atari I was just playing for a high score, until we got to the end of 1-4, where I was told that the princess was in another castle

Super Mario Bros. blew my mind graphically and also in that it actually had a PLOT, a GOAL at the end.

Before this it was all about surviving endless levels and getting the highest score.

You NEVER win. You only hopefully do a little better each time you play.

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 01:41:04 2016 No.3350895

>>3350879
>If you're a youngling you may never understand.
why?

>I'm 35 and it was the first videogame I ever played.
which makes your rambling not very useful

>You have to get in the mindset that what you consider cutting edge graphics and gameplay right now will be laughed at at some point in the future
Are you calling the 2600 graphics laughable? Just how narrowminded are you?

>You NEVER win. You only hopefully do a little better each time you play.
yeah, fuck tetris, "younglings" will never understand

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 02:08:50 2016 No.3350935 >>3350895 Missing the point: the post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 02:11:00 2016 No.3350941 >>3350895 How to flame a helpful answer for dummies : ^ )

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 04:53:20 2016 No.3351140 >>3346646 The late 70's was gaming at its absolute peak, and we will never reach that high again. I have a Missile Command and Crystal Castles machine in my garage and play them every day reminiscing of times long gone by.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 05:02:26 2016 No.3351148 It's a good system if you like to play games in short bursts or prefer high score based games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 18:28:00 2016 No.3352217 >>3351140 > The late 70's was gaming at its absolute peak Elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 19:30:17 2016 No.3352410 What are the must-have atari 2600 games?

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 19:52:31 2016 No.3352456 [DELETED]

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>>3352410

Warlords
Yar's Revenge
Centipede
Space Invaders
Enduro
Pitfall!
Mad Bomber
Video Olympics
Missile Command

Those are just off the top of my head in no particular order, there are others though. That list is probably $15 total.

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 19:54:03 2016 No.3352460
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>>3352410

Warlords
Yar's Revenge
Centipede
Space Invaders
Enduro
Pitfall!
Kaboom
Video Olympics
Missile Command

Those are just off the top of my head in no particular order, there are others though. That list is probably $15 total.

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 19:58:51 2016 No.3352478

>>3352217
Games were at their absolute creative peak while focusing on innovative gameplay rather than botched pedantic stories.

This one was a personal favorite of mine. Me and my cousin used to play this for hours. It blew our minds of what could be done in a game on our television and WE were the ones controlling it. Like the movie's slogan, "you'll believe a man can fly", we believed we could do it in our homes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7U2TFIayos

Also arcade games were at their peak as well creatively and gameplay-wise. I only ever got to play Death Race with my brother once because it was rather controversial in its heyday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBBtt72aJLA

Anonymous Tue Jul 12 04:14:53 2016 No.3353380

>>3352410
Adding to >>3352460
>river raid
>stargate/defender 2 (arguably defender 1 is more "must-have" but the 2600 port is pretty bad)
>frogger
>moon patrol
>adventure
>asteroids
>berzerk
>pitfall 2
>Solaris
>joust

There are many more but they tend to be more hidden gems than greatest hits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 05:24:42 2016 No.3353443 >>3353380 Excellent additions, I knew I was missing a bunch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 17:41:05 2016 No.3354498 >>3353380 >There are many more but they tend to be more hidden gems than greatest hits. If you'd be so kind as to list them and give a quick description of each I'd be really greatful.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:18:40 2016 No.3355710

>>3354498
Kinda hard to give descriptions of Atari games without just talking about gameplay mechanics for each one but here's some good ones that I don't hear talked about much.

>secret quest
>cross force
>laser gates
>solar fox
>bermuda triangle
>gravitar
>wizard of wor
>krull
>dark cavern
>worm war 1
>towering inferno
>turmoil
>beany bopper
>tac-scan
>frankenstein's monster
>mountain king
>spider fighter
>gyruss
>tutankham
>star trek
>congo bongo
>super cobra
>fathom

There are more but that's what I got off the top of my head

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:24:23 2016 No.3355723

>>3355710
>Kinda hard to give descriptions of Atari games without just talking about gameplay mechanics for each one
good, that's how it's supposed to be. If you can't explain a game without any reference to setting, plot or characters, it automatically fails

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 01:28:24 2016 No.3355734 >>3355710 I'll look into them, thanks a ton anon!

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:30:29 2016 No.3355846

>>3355723
This so fucking much. This is why Atari, Intellivision, Colecovision, and early 80's gaming was perfection. There were no overindulgent plots or characters with emphasis on story over gameplay, it short, sweet and to the point, and most importantly supreme creativity within constraints and endlessly replayable, the way a game should be. Seriously, look at some Robotron or Tempest gameplay. It's mesmerizing and psychedelic. It's so creative.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 02:58:06 2016 No.3355891
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>>3350493
>>3350493
>And if you dont like the stick controller, you can always use a Genesis one.
I'm pretty sure that's ill-advised, I know for example the Commodore 64 can be damaged by that. The Megadrive controller uses multiplexing and stuff, while the Atari standard is just electrical. You can however use any Atari-standard joystick or joypad meant for home computers using the same plug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 03:29:08 2016 No.3355950 >>3355846 Like mobile games

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:29:05 2016 No.3356986 >>3355891 Where did this even come from? I've been using genesis controllers on my Atari for years with no issues.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:34:44 2016 No.3357009

>>3356986
It's more about the C64 and especially the Amiga. People just parrot it and it gets distorted. The 2600 is a tank it's not going to get fucked up from a Genesis controller being used on it beyond possibly crashing your game and requiring a reset IF you press other buttons which I expect you don't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 16:49:30 2016 No.3357059 >>3355950 And people do play mobile games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:05:22 2016 No.3357098 >>3355846 Except those machine were just poor man's arcade, arcade gaming has the fundamentals of all what you said.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:06:39 2016 No.3357101 >>3356986 Me too, that guy is full of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 13 17:07:20 2016 No.3357102 >>3355846 Except those machine were just poor man's arcade, arcade gaming have the fundamentals of all what you said and didn't change much over time (other than dying in the west ofc)

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 22:48:13 2016 No.3357983

>>3347307
You're kidding yourself if you don't think it has graphical technological limitations. In reality, the limitations are what forced many devs to ensure that the gameplay of their games was top notch. Necessity is the mother of innovation and it's why the 2600 has so many enjoyable games.

Anonymous Wed Jul 13 23:30:55 2016 No.3358079

>>3357983
>You're kidding yourself if you don't think it has graphical technological limitations
Are you saying the graphics are shit? I'm not asking if they're affected by the available technology, I'm asking if they're shit. Because that's the only excuse for using a phrase like gameplay over graphics, when you have to tolerate shit graphics to get the good gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 01:42:51 2016 No.3358376 >>3350402 It's fucking $50 where I live.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 02:02:05 2016 No.3358413 >>3346646 Learn to have fun. Well, first learn which games aren't garbage. Then learn to have fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 02:06:24 2016 No.3358418 >>3350776 Well Pitfall 2 takes hours so I guess it works out that you don't want that since you don't want to spend more than $3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 02:59:10 2016 No.3358482 File: 110 KB, 800x522, colecovision1c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3346646 You don't. Fuck Atari cheap shit. Colecovision will forever be the greatest console known to man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuCiemdz7uk

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 03:24:28 2016 No.3358508 >>3358482 >posting your own video without explicitly mentioning that it's your video Shame on you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 06:30:48 2016 No.3358683 >>3358482 Fuck that atrocious controller

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 06:35:46 2016 No.3358690 >>3358683 What are you talking about? That shit's classic. It fits like a glove when you get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:37:59 2016 No.3358790 >>3346646 How to love any retro console, OP? It seems to me there isn't a single genre that isn't done better by current standards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 08:39:47 2016 No.3358794 >>3358790 >It seems to me there isn't a single genre that isn't done better by current standards Lies, all lies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:50:45 2016 No.3359325 >>3347350 I'm always triggered by how disgustingly filthy all of AVGN's hardware is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 12:53:55 2016 No.3359340 >>3359325 and you haven't even seen them naked

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 14:25:34 2016 No.3359590 >>3358790 Why are you even here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:49:01 2016 No.3360480 >>3359590 I'm sad and lonely

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:50:53 2016 No.3360485 >>3359325 It's called patina

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 04:32:06 2016 No.3363882 >>3358690 No. The colecovision controller is awful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 21:38:16 2016 No.3365881 >>3346646 Program for it. Most fun programming challenge ever.

Anonymous Sun Jul 17 02:38:30 2016 No.3366503
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>>3346646
Glad I saw this thread so I don't have to make one. Hopefully you guys can be serious for a minute.

I noticed that /vr/ rarely talks about the pre NES consoles much. Why might this be? Is it because the games are a bit too bland even for /vr/ taste? I was too young to have played these consoles. The only one I think I played might have been the Colecovision. This was such a long time ago though although I do know I played a console that came before the NES. I'm just not entirely sure if it definitely was Colecovisoin.

To be brutally honest here, I have played many of these older games by other means and it's not that many of them were bad it's just that many of them are way too simplistic to be truly engaging. Pitfall is kind of cool I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 02:46:45 2016 No.3366523 >>3360485 the chick from kid icarus?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 03:02:19 2016 No.3366547 >>3366503 As said in just about every Atari thread, some people like the games and some don't. For most people NES is the oldest they'll go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 12:21:44 2016 No.3367094 >>3366503 there's just not a whole lot to say about the games

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 12:26:54 2016 No.3367108 >>3346646 Pretend it's still 1977 and there's nothing better to play.

Anonymous Sun Jul 17 12:31:50 2016 No.3367116

>>3366503
>I was too young to have played these consoles
That sums up most of /vr/ hence why there's little discussion of gen 1 and 2 apart from a few occasions where we've had some nice civil Atari threads where you kids have been a tad more respectful than your usual asshole selves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 12:33:45 2016 No.3367123 >>3366503 Pre-third gen games are a bit different from later games. Most of them don't have a story and the gameplay is designed around getting a high score rather than progressing through the game. It's a little difficult to discuss such games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 12:35:48 2016 No.3367129 >>3367116 >says kids are assholes >is an asshole himself gee anon

Anonymous Sun Jul 17 18:05:14 2016 No.3367809

>>3367129
This, pretty much. I love Atari and every now and then we have some great threads but honestly I see way more angry jaded old people than "asshole kids". But honestly I think the "old" people aren't any older than their late 20s anyway and for some reason enjoy pretending they're cranky kong.

Anonymous Sun Jul 17 18:45:23 2016 No.3367915
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>>3366503
First gen games and the vast majority of second gen games were simply inferior substitutes for arcade games. A few games did attempt to give players a deeper experience a la computer games but it was tough with such limited storage space. Although some few good games with something special to offer, console gaming at the time was very much viewed as the absolute bottom tier of gaming by "serious gamers" both the bros at the arcades and the nerds up all night at their computers.

https://ia801709.us.archive.org/1/items/Vidiot_Vol_1_No_2_1983-03_CREEM_Magazine_US/Vidiot_Vol_1_No_2_1983-03_CREEM_Magazine_US_text.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 19:31:00 2016 No.3368021 >>3367915 >first gen >games

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 20:53:39 2016 No.3368243 >>3368021 Not all first gen games are pong clones there are racing games, light gun games, gambling games etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 17 22:26:20 2016 No.3368503 could put your penis in the slot. That's how you love women, i hear.

Anonymous Sun Jul 17 22:40:46 2016 No.3368546

>>3366503
Atari games are what you call 'comfy' games. They generally don't have music, losing isn't really a concern (yeah you game over, but usually all you lost were points), the gameplay is usually simple to accommodate the two-button controller. It's light and crisp, like a good salad. You have a little bit, it tastes good, and you're content. It just doesn't lend itself to marathon gaming, unless you wanna swap games often. At least for me, a typical Atari play session might be about five minutes of Berzerk, five minutes of Pitfall, and five minutes of Centipede.

That, and paddle controllers are sweet. It's a shame that every console has gravitated to having exactly one input and no-one's willing to make or use anything else. Lightgun games didn't deserve to die.

Anonymous Mon Jul 18 01:45:22 2016 No.3368921

>>3368546
Seconding comfy and the love for paddles. I also tend to play Atari games in short bursts, though some games are able to be played for long amounts of time. With Atari games it isn't about "can I beat it" so much as "how far can I get", and it's all about repitition and improvement through that. I think the lack of a clear end goal is why most people don't like the games, coupled with the simple and rudimentary gameplay. For some, it's perfect. I love seeing how long I can last and how many loops I can make it through in games like jungle hunt or tac scan.

Basically If you aren't a fan of early 80s arcade games and don't see the appeal of the 2600's aesthetic then there isn't really a point in trying to force yourself to like it. Not liking Atari doesn't make someone less of a retro fan or anything, but hating on Atari because it's old is pretty stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 01:53:05 2016 No.3368939 >>3368921 >the lack of a clear end goal is why most people don't like the games yeah, Tetris never caught on because of that crucial flaw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 05:11:06 2016 No.3369152 >>3350295 I second Desert Falcon on 7800. It's real fun. 7800's Commando was very fun to me too, with stuff like proper levels and secrets.

Anonymous Mon Jul 18 09:29:52 2016 No.3369357

I'm young but have played a lot of Enduro when I was 5. Got some fond memories of it.
Recently I played Yar's Revenge and Pac-Man and had a lot of fun, despite Pac-Man being an inferior port.
All in all it is a pretty sweet console, but I'd rather play the NES.

Anonymous Mon Jul 18 12:14:41 2016 No.3369553

>>3369357
Pac man is shit on 2600 but ms pac man and junior pac man both play great. Had Atari not been so greedy and pushed the pac man prototype out onto shelves in a hurry, it probably would have ended up playing like the 2600 ms pac man and actually been competent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 12:59:07 2016 No.3369653 >>3369553 Some people believe Frye was also partly responsible because he added a two player alternating mode even knowing that ROM space was scarce. Ms Pac-Man and Jr Pac-Man actually leave out two player support even despite the larger ROMs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 13:22:31 2016 No.3369686 File: 1.07 MB, 2048x1536, IMG_20160718_131921.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to not love Atari games?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 13:28:03 2016 No.3369696 >>3369693 these photos are pretty brutal on the eyes. Is it the camera and the exposure, or is the image really that bad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 18 13:38:14 2016 No.3369714 >>3369686 >>3369690 >>3369693 Ðose are Atari 800 games. Have you seen Star Raiders 2? It looks awesome

Anonymous Mon Jul 18 18:08:43 2016 No.3370273

>>3369696

the camera is terrible, but yeah, that how an atari game looks on an old CRT

>>3369714

400/800/XE games are just ports of the 2600 games with the same exact controls but better graphics, and you can use composite rather than RF. Also almost all the 5200 catalog was ported to Atari computers too. And the multicarts are like 30 bucks.

And yeah, Star Riders 2 looks like a NES game.

Anonymous Mon Jul 18 18:27:08 2016 No.3370315

I kind of like the idea of certain common game parameters are switches. Like, instead of selecting 1 or 2 players every time on the in-game menu, you just set the whole machine to 1 or 2 player mode.

Or a difficulty switch.

They should bring that sort of thing back. It's kind of classy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 19 18:27:23 2016 No.3372860 >>3370273 >Also almost all the 5200 catalog was ported to Atari computers too I thought it's 5200 catalog was ported from Atari computers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 02:16:20 2016 No.3375853 >>3368546 Do paddle controllers for PC exist?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 02:20:40 2016 No.3375859 >>3346646 >garbage games about as deep as a puddle >trash joystick prone to breakage due to poor design and cheap materials Don't bother. There's a reason that Atari is forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 02:20:51 2016 No.3375860 >>3375853 Use a trackball. You could also make one from a mouse but a trackball is as good or better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 02:28:59 2016 No.3375865 >>3366503 Atari games are shit, that's why they're rarely talked about. If you want early arcade action, then just emulate the originals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 08:22:52 2016 No.3376154 >>3350240 Because of David Crane's Amazing Tennis, I used to think he was a tennis player. Confused the hell out of me when I saw The Rescue Of Princess Blobette.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 08:25:52 2016 No.3376160 >>3350895 Jeese, what a wankmullet.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 08:54:13 2016 No.3376174

>>3346646
Most people fell in love with it because it was all they had, it was novel at the time, and they played with friends or family.

I suggest you follow these steps to artificially recreate that experience:

1-Pick only three games
2- Plan an "Atari weekend" where you set aside all of your time to play and eat snacks
3- invite a friend over and challenge each other to get high scores
4- play until you are close to expert on those three games

You'll love it and appreciate it. Then Monday you can go back to XBox

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 09:44:02 2016 No.3376237 >>3346646 It's shit. Why would you want to love it? Unless you're a historian there's no reason to even play it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 21 11:58:45 2016 No.3376357

>>3375859
>>3375859
>>3376237
Damn, that's some serious salt. I get that not everyone likes Atari but to just summarily dismiss a whole console as shit because you aren't able to appreciate is pretty dumb. I didn't even play Atari until about 3 or 4 years ago but it very quickly became one of my favorites, and it was already dead and buried before I was even born. If you don't like Atari you aren't going to be able to teach yourself to like it, it's honestly not for everyone. Even though a small handful of games were approaching early NES standards by the end of its life, it still seems archaic but there are plenty of people who enjoy it for that reason, not despite it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 12:15:29 2016 No.3376378 >>3376174 >1-Pick only three games This is directly contrary to the reason people play Atari.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 15:59:02 2016 No.3376695 >>3376378 Gotta agree with this, having a good bunch of games is the best way to play atari

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 20:19:17 2016 No.3377147 File: 1.51 MB, 640x420, Robot Tank.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Play some of Activision's games, it doesn't matter which. If you don't like them, you'll never like the 2600.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:25:37 2016 No.3377490 File: 43 KB, 214x400, 1468988251253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3358482 >it's like an atari 2600 >but with slightly better graphics >and 1% of the games Also, 7800-tier controller

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 21 23:49:14 2016 No.3377532 >>3377490 >slightly try VERY also has an actual sound chip

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:30:11 2016 No.3378029 >>3346646 can't do it no more...you had to have it as a childhood companion, no matter the era you had it (80s, 90s, whatever) >dat soccer gameplay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:31:21 2016 No.3378031 >>3346696 >I just realised Activision did this game fuark

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 06:46:18 2016 No.3378038 >>3347307 don't you agree that gameplay+ story> graphics? it's like with music: if the music is good and the record is good, who will care about the production?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 08:51:59 2016 No.3378127 >>3378038 Bad production can make a song unlistenable, senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 08:55:08 2016 No.3378132 >>3378127 >I'm too good for radio

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 09:05:59 2016 No.3378152

>>3346646
For me, Atari and similar consoles have to be played with a friend around or music playing.
These older consoles were like a ping pong table or air hockey, they were GAMES through and through, so you have to provide the ambiance to surround it, unlike with the less pure, but more cinematic games today where immersion is the goal, so you want to purge all distractions.

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 09:17:27 2016 No.3378174

>>3378152
Playing your own music along with games that have no music is a no-brainer. In fact, I've come around full circle and have become used to doing this in modern games too so one thing that consistently surprises me is when I'm playing gen 5-6 games is how you can't adjust the volume of music, sound effects and speech separately.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 12:40:44 2016 No.3378535 >>3378038 >gameplay+ story> graphics? what's the supposed to mean?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 15:26:19 2016 No.3378783 >>3378127 and some times production is all a "song" ever has.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 22 16:51:41 2016 No.3378985 >>3346646 You have to love simplistic arcade games

Anonymous Fri Jul 22 21:11:57 2016 No.3379456

>>3378985
This. If you don't like those early 80s arcade games you aren't gonna like the 2600. This was long before games attempted to establish a narrative, if that sorta stuff was there it was in the instructions. Gameplay was all that really mattered, and it was made to be simple and hyperfocused. The games didn't have much to work with so they just all got progressivelu more difficult rather than actually ending. It was all about high scores and getting just that little bit farther than you did last time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 24 10:56:02 2016 No.3381993 >>3348374 Those games are rather like PC games.

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