It's happening http://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/

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Anonymous Wed Jun 29 23:30:03 2016 No.3325651 [Reply] [Original]

It's happening

http://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 00:16:13 2016 No.3325731 >>3325651 So, I just bought System Shock Enhanced Edition. Are there any mods I absolutely must install, or should I just go in vanilla?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 00:19:08 2016 No.3325734 >>3325731 You'll want this one https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=802.0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 00:32:53 2016 No.3325751 >>3325734 Thanks. Is there anything else of note?

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 02:38:05 2016 No.3325941

>>3325651
minimum specs pretty much says 4GB vga ati 7870

nearly double the performance of PS4 vga, which just release

WADAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ?

no wonder console fags say gaming PC is too expensive, and pc fags say consoles are weak in frames or whatever, or at least they did since xb3 and ps4 are pretty much ibm pcs...

why do developers do this shit? keep forcing gaming users to upgrade? doesnt this reduce their sales? are nvidia/ati paying them that much?

if this wasnt a remake i still wouldnt be paying it for a couple years still, luckily SSEE is perfeclty fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 02:40:19 2016 No.3325945 >>3325941 Incompetence and entitlement, look how much space the REmake takes up on a PC, it's like 18-19GB

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 02:44:58 2016 No.3325949 >>3325945 how much of that is just terrible programming practices?

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:01:03 2016 No.3325967
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>>3325941
>4GB vga ati 7870
And it's a brand new and high end card? $350-500 every 4 years or so is something almost anyone with a job can afford.

Pic related is 3 years old and still runs every game ever. Being an nvidicuck (gtx 680, see fps in OP) it really hurts my feeling tbqh, time to save up for dat 1070 I guess.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:15:29 2016 No.3325983

>>3325941
Also, it's unity, and unity runs on anything but runs well on nothing. In other words it's a mess of spaghetti code but it's very scalable.

I guess you could say it's an elabarote scam, but game devs have no choice but play along. PCs from last 4 years already have a hundred different configs, and trying to make it run well on older stuff is that much more work. And why not target the most impressive hardware if you can, that's been in PC gaming's DNA since Wolf 3D, nobody ever complained doom looked like ass on i286.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:24:37 2016 No.3325991 >unity fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:26:55 2016 No.3325994 >>3325967 nvidia's pretty evil so they pay off companies to optimize their games for their cards. there's a reason the prices are the way they are

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:27:21 2016 No.3325996 Good thing that 25 years of technological progress has allowed us to make ugly, boring looking games with no color in them that also run like ass.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:29:19 2016 No.3325998

>>3325996
..it's not really any less colorful

recommended graphic settings are always over-the-top. recommended specs in general even outside of games have that problem. think it's just a ploy to trick newcomers into spending more since pc gaming is trending so hard now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:29:42 2016 No.3326000 >>3325651 I can't wait for all the shitposting that SS-reboot is better than SS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:30:43 2016 No.3326002 >>3326000 honestly if any game needs a reboot it's ss1. if anything the controls will be better

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:30:58 2016 No.3326003 >>3325949 A lot. It's bloated as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:31:31 2016 No.3326005 >>3325998 It's the bloom from the unity engine. Unity is garbage and these cunts shouldn't see a penny for using it but hey nostalgiacucks will throw money at anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:32:29 2016 No.3326006 >>3326005 they could at least not use the default shaders

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:32:51 2016 No.3326007 >>3326002 No, SS needs a remaster not a reboot. This is a pathetic cash grab as usual and isn't needed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:34:02 2016 No.3326008 >>3326005 you can turn bloom off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:34:26 2016 No.3326009 >>3326005 Unity isn't even that bad. It's just that every game made in Unity is very obviously made in Unity. Also, Unity gets a bad rap because it's so available and a lot of shitty "devs" have made a deluge of utter trash in it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:35:03 2016 No.3326012 >>3326007 what's the difference? i doubt it's going to be a reimagining or anything considering the 1:1 screenshots

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:36:55 2016 No.3326017 >>3326012 Not him but those screens give serious nostalgia pandering vibes. Will the rest be 1:1?

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:39:23 2016 No.3326018

>>3326012
A remaster is updating the game to modern standards plus streamlining and bug fixing without touching anything else.

This isn't even a remake, it's a full on reboot because they're planning to add new things that weren't in the original. Go check out the pledges if you need proof.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:39:48 2016 No.3326021 >>3326017 it's probably easier to do it that way at least mostly so i don't see why not

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:41:21 2016 No.3326023 >>3326018 oh no god forbid new features. you know, the thing everyone complains isn't in reboots enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:42:22 2016 No.3326025 >>3326023 er, remakes. your made-up terminology is confusing me

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:42:28 2016 No.3326026 >>3326005 >nostalgiacucks Uhhh, us nostalgiacucks will just play the original game. This reboot is for the nuGamer crowd who think the original is too "difficult to get into" and their first *shock game was Bioshock.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:43:57 2016 No.3326029 >>3326023 >"System Shock is a complete remake..." Quoted from their ks page. New features in a remake isn't a good thing whereas in a reboot they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:44:19 2016 No.3326030 >>3326026 >he's pretending he doesn't know about it from 2 or bioshock >he's pretending the controls aren't ass just to feel superior

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:45:29 2016 No.3326032

>>3325994
>nvidia's pretty evil so they pay off companies to optimize their games for their cards. there's a reason the prices are the way they are
They also release drivers that nerf performance on older architectures, see the recent "anti-kepler" driver (aka witcher 3 game ready), thankfully was rolled back some time later.

>>3326009
>It's just that every game made in Unity is very obviously made in Unity.
I can name a few exceptions (only the launcher gives them away). And same can be said for unreal engine 3 circa late 2000's, now 3rd parties figured how to use it properly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:46:00 2016 No.3326034 >>3326030 had no problems with the controls, maybe you should try gitting gud

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:46:15 2016 No.3326035 >>3326029 well i imagine the mechanics will be streamlined which counts as new features i guess. i hope it isn't added length or anything cause it doesn't really need any more of that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:46:36 2016 No.3326036 >>3326026 9130 backers can't be wrong anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:47:17 2016 No.3326037 >>3326034 >he's pretending the controls aren't ass just to feel superior

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:48:00 2016 No.3326040

>>3325983
>unity
isnt that also a plugin for 3d games, so its like the equivalent of javaVM for 3d games?
just a super inefficient egine that is super easy to develop for, to bait hipsters that dream of making their own game with 200k of inheritance money?

is this why i keep seeing some ridiculous indie games that dont even look like... half life 2 in trailers, but with absurd requirements?

whats next, half life 3 in html5? requiring a supercomputer to run at 15fps?

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:48:04 2016 No.3326041

>>3326035
>General Features
→ A modern take on System Shock, a faithful reboot; it’s not Citadel Station as it was, but as you remember it. Many improvements, overhauls and changes are being implemented to capture the spirit of what the original game was trying to convey, and bring it to contemporary gamers.
→ Re-imagined enemies, weapons, and locations by original concept artist Robb Waters.
→ Terri Brosius reprises her role as SHODAN, and new VO will be recorded.
→ Brand new musical score composed by Jonathan Peros.
→ The user interface, game mechanics, enemies, and puzzles will be updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities, while maintaining the feel of the original.

And if they reach their 1.7mil goal:

>→ $900k Goal: Modern Inventory Management, Modern Controls, New Puzzles, Updated Faithful Levels, Game Difficulty Modes.
→ $1.7m Goal : Enemy limb dismemberment, More puzzles, Ammo types/weapon settings, Vending machines, Basic components/research, RPG progression, Weapon upgrading, Hardcore mode (No respawning), Ironman mode (Only 1 savegame. If you die, the save is deleted)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:48:29 2016 No.3326042 >>3326037 >mummy it doesn't play like my cawwadoody, why is this game so shit!!!

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:50:22 2016 No.3326043

>>3326032
well to be fair both companies are pretty stupid when it comes to drivers. amd released one a few months back that forced your fans to underperform and melted a lot of cards. the auto-updater for some reason wouldn't download the hotfix either so you had to happen to find this out before it's too late and download the update yourself

i'm lucky i have a lower end card and don't play many current gen games i guess

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:51:15 2016 No.3326045

>>3326026
>This reboot is for the nuGamer crowd who think the original is too "difficult to get into" and their first *shock game was Bioshock.
It's very obviously banking on nostalgia, see pitch video for proof (implying any was needed, but w/e).

>>3326040
>isnt that also a plugin for 3d games, so its like the equivalent of javaVM for 3d games?
pretty much spot on, I'll steal your comparison for future use. That said, a competent programmer can make it run well by bending over backwards or just a series of crutches at the very least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:51:48 2016 No.3326047 >>3326042 it's a good game, the controls are just really shitty. it's pretty obviously from the days when devs didn't know how to map controls to a keyboard quit being such a verbatim /vr/ shitposter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:52:59 2016 No.3326051 >>3326041 all of those sound fine except the $1.7 ones

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:55:05 2016 No.3326056

>>3325651
>can only have 2 weapons at a time
>code for a puzzle is printed right next to the keypad
>inventory screen is scaled down with less options
>no varying degrees of crouch positioning
>Unity

Yep, it's trash. I really wish Night Dive hadn't got the copyrights from the insurance company.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:55:44 2016 No.3326059

>>3326018
>A remaster is
>This isn't even a remake, it's a full on reboot b
ok, since we're here, whats the difference beween remake and remaster, i though they were interchangeable terms, or is it more like, remaster is a more appropriated term, and if you're changing it might as well call it reboot and not the ambiguous "remake"?

but then again look at homeworld 1 "remaster" wich is simply hw1 units in hw2 engine&gameplay, so not a remaster...

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:56:45 2016 No.3326062

>>3326051
>all of those sound fine except the $1.7 ones
I wouldn't mind it shaken up a bit. SS2 on citadel station painstakingly recreated and some new areas? Yes please. What bothers me is the usual kickstarter "name in game" cancer, that very nearly ruined pillars of eternity for me, at least they're charging a hefty sum for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 03:58:44 2016 No.3326069 >>3326062 Being a poorly designed game with MMO combat ruined pillars of eternity for me.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:02:49 2016 No.3326074

>>3326059
I think you can easily tell them apart by the amount of fucks given. Upscaled renderer, unceompressed textures dugged up on ancient HDD and remade character models, you've a "remaster", and one actual work's been put into at that. If you're recreating every single asset from scratch on a completely different engine, it's a remake. Kinda like psycho 1998 in this case, shot for shot, with a few extra wheels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:05:20 2016 No.3326078 >>3326069 >Being a poorly designed game with MMO combat ruined pillars of eternity for me. Well yeah, what else did you expect going in? It's literally baldur's gate 2: josh sawyer edition ft. 2 paragraphs by chris avellone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:05:24 2016 No.3326079 >>3326074 And like that movie, completely forgotten within a year.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:05:55 2016 No.3326081

>>3326051
A couple points sound fine.
Re-imagining has me concerned but this could just be down to an out of touch moron writing the page. Half the words used are red flags for remakes.

>re-imagining, overhauls, changes, "to capture the spirit of the original", "to capture the feel of the original"

>>3326059
Remaster is pretty much a port with minimal - no changes to the original.
Examples would be Code Veronica and the HD port to Xbox360 and PS3.

Continuing on with Resident Evil as examples,
the gamecube version was a remake.
They remade the entire game and added new features, streamlined it.
They changed the entirety of the game, luckily for the better.

Reboots are taking the concept/storyline/gameplay/everything and changing it to tell your (the creators) liking. Forbidden Siren and it's reboot are prime examples.

Remakes, Reboots and Remasters aren't bad, but if you don't do it right they flop, (eg RE0 HD 'remaster' for Xbone, PS4)

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:07:20 2016 No.3326083

>>3326078
I'd expect class variation and replay value, of which there is none. Because the design philosophy was literally "no fun allowed". For something supposedly inspired by Baldur's Gate, it is nothing alike in any way except perspective.

The graphics were nice, I guess?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:07:55 2016 No.3326085 >>3326081 What's worrying is that these guys don't have any experience as a team and they've chosen a classic to break the ice with. I wish them the best of luck but I'm not holding my breath.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:09:40 2016 No.3326086

>>3326079
You've a point, the industry's caught up with SS1 16 years ago. But it also lost sight of it again by doing a 180 shortly afterwards.

Enhanced Edition is great and perfectly playable, but it does look dated as fuck, and gameplay is a bit archaic in places. However Remake is a positive development I feel, hopefully they won't completely fuck it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 04:55:53 2016 No.3326112 >>3326040 >just a super inefficient egine that is super easy to develop for, to bait hipsters that dream of making their own game with 200k of inheritance money? Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 05:06:51 2016 No.3326123 File: 119 KB, 750x745, gH6KNcduuvo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3326041 >updated to reflect modern aesthetics and sensibilities

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 06:32:21 2016 No.3326195 >>3326123 Dumb frogposter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 08:29:55 2016 No.3326308 File: 33 KB, 600x476, 1466218838714.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone was asking what's the difference between remake and remaster earlier. Here's an illustrated guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZvG8_ihRiU synchronicity, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:04:37 2016 No.3326597 So, how is the System Shock Portable Tool compared to the Enhanced Edition? Better? Worse? About the same?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:24:54 2016 No.3326647 File: 222 KB, 439x781, iDFCKuY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3325651 > Railings in the new game Why? Have people become generally just more retarded over the decades? Can'y control yourself anymore?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:26:21 2016 No.3326649 >>3326041 >→ Terri Brosius reprises her role as SHODAN, and new VO will be recorded. Well, that's pretty cool at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:35:13 2016 No.3326663 >>3326647 It looks empty and everything is right-angled, so they threw in some curvy railings and pipework.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:53:30 2016 No.3326685 >unity i won't even bother watching a trailer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 30 12:56:06 2016 No.3326689 >>3326647 There'd be safety railings in original game if they didn't have a very strict polygon budget. >>3326685 Wow you're a cool guy.

Anonymous Thu Jun 30 19:58:18 2016 No.3327558

>all these anons shitting on Unity
And here I thought I was the only one who hated Unity. I can safely say I've never played a game using Unity that was enjoyable or felt half-way well designed.

The fact the "game designers" behind the realRiven project chose Unity is why I have no hope for that project.

It's sad, but there is already a good upgraded version of SS so at least we have that.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 11:57:55 2016 No.3328732

>>3327558
I'll let you in on a little secret, the engine used in game development matters about as much as desktop wallpaper on their office workstation. All unity games = trash, cry engine = always looks good are just memes by /v/ermin and neoFAG.

Especially nowdays when most popular engines can handly any type of game and will be running 5-10 middleware solutions on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 12:12:57 2016 No.3328764 As someone who actually played the demo, it was really brief, but it wasn't the insult to System Shock that the Bioshock games were. I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 12:52:44 2016 No.3328829
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>>3328764
Shock 1 is almost completely unrelated to Bioshock, and Shock 2 for that matter. Kinda does its own thing. But yeah, Bioshock did get rid of almost everything that made Shock 2 complelling besides the basic gameplay outline.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:27:08 2016 No.3328885 >>3328829 I fucking love this cherry-picked screenshots meme, especially since people who actually play the games are able to immediately see through the bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:33:01 2016 No.3328893 >>3328885 What are you on about, those are map screens and you can clearly see the paradigm shift from SS1 to SS2 to Bioshock infinite

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:37:27 2016 No.3328905 >>3328893 The SS2 one is multiple areas and not a singular one. I've not played any SS games and I know that.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:40:47 2016 No.3328913

>>3327558
>Unity is shit
Audiosurf 2 and Audioshield are fun. DeadCore is good. Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes is great party fun (though it could have been done in anything). Most current good Vive games use Unity to great effect (Space Pirate Trainer, Fantastic Contraption, Job Simulator, etc)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:42:18 2016 No.3328918 >>3325941 Given that the demo ran just fine on my four year old GTX 570, I'm inclined to say that those system specs are bullshit and that's just the oldest thing they've tested it on.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:43:23 2016 No.3328921

>>3328905
SS2 is more corridor with rooms branching off with some backtracking while SS1 is a honeycomb design closer to super metroid of all things, bioshock is SS2 shrunk down because of processing power (ironically) and bioshock infinite is a linear interactive movie about something boring.

I case you're still confused yes, those are maps of singular levels and not the entire fucking games.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:47:00 2016 No.3328929

>>3328885
It reminds me of that one DmC pic that states that a completion bonus grants an SSS ranking and then shows an SSS ranking despite very poor performance. Nevermind the fact that...

>"completion" refers to Lost Souls, Keys, and Crosses
>The mission in the SSS screenshot is only in the demo
>The ranking is based on score only
>The style points were astronomically high due to a minor exploit involving Succubus

I lack the pic. The levels in System Shock are very small, and the one posted is one of two that is a crazy maze. However this doesn't make it a good map, maps in old FPS games were often very poorly designed, and left people running about in circles trying to find something. Doesn't help that the SS2 one is of multiple areas since SS2 is far more open and less level-based, and that Bioshock Infinite is far more focused on combat than running about like a headless chicken.

You use different mapping styles for different types of games. This much is obvious. You also need to have progress move at a consistent rate. If someone is reduced to running against every wall in the game spamming buttons looking for a 12x6 graphic which is actually a pickup, you fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:49:13 2016 No.3328934 >>3328921 >backtracking Great design mang, let me just walk through this old area with impunity now that everything is annihilated by my superior arsenal in ONE bullet instead of 2 because it's the first area in the game.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:52:54 2016 No.3328936

>The levels in System Shock are very small, and the one posted is one of two that is a crazy maze. However this doesn't make it a good map, maps in old FPS games were often very poorly designed, and left people running about in circles trying to find something

Unless you are too stupid to listen to audio logs and open the map screen, you will not get lost in System Shock 1 or 2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:55:04 2016 No.3328939 >>3328934 >I have not played the system shock games

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 13:57:34 2016 No.3328946 >>3328939 One of the stronger weapons in the game needs a crazy high proficiency in something you VERY likely ignored due to how impractical it was. Yes, I've played it, yes it was completed, no I didn't enjoy it all that much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 14:04:18 2016 No.3328957 >>3328946 There are no RPG elements in system shock 1 though. Why were you using weapons in System Shock 2 though, when you can become a psionics God at a low low price of around 150 cybernetic modules.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 14:04:35 2016 No.3328959 >>3328946 >no I didn't enjoy it all that much. Then get out, you 22 year old puke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 14:07:27 2016 No.3328963 >>3328957 Not defending his terrible taste in vidya, but he's right in that there is basically no reason to level exotic weapons for almost the entirity of the game and then BAM, suddenly the game wants you to have a huge pile of points dumped into it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 14:08:02 2016 No.3328965

>>3328936
>Unless you are too stupid to listen to audio logs and open the map screen, you will not get lost in System Shock 1 or 2.
Actually Shock 1 is very intuitively laid out for the most part, it's mostly squares but it looks kinda like a real place unlike Doom's abstract what the fuck is this level design.

System shock 2 map screen is a tiny bit shit, but you'll find your way around eventually.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 18:22:08 2016 No.3329402

Not confident in the remake. They've been talking about how they want to add in RPG progression even though System Shock was basically meant to be a refined version of Ultima Underworld with the awkward RPG elements removed. I'm surprised they aren't remaking SS2, because they seem to prefer it.

>>3326597
They're similar but the enhanced edition will run more smoothly at higher resolution and I found the mouse sensitivity in Portable was screwed up, but I might have not configured dosbox properly. Go with EE.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 1 23:47:13 2016 No.3330142 >>3326647 OSHA compliance bro.

Anonymous Fri Jul 1 23:49:31 2016 No.3330156

>>3326056
I want to keep hype because I can see they're trying and SS1 is one of those games that could really use something like this if not a good ZDoom style source port, but damn.

Night Dive is a bunch of garbage. If it wasn't for the modding community we'd never know they were a bunch of scumbags from the start.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 01:28:57 2016 No.3330441 >>3325949 it's a Japanese game...so all of it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 2 04:38:11 2016 No.3330704

>>3330156
>If it wasn't for the modding community we'd never know they were a bunch of scumbags from the start.
Something about turok EX was it. Or powerslave EX. Well if it gave them dosh for SS1 remake (and it turns out to be not a complete piece of shit) I'd call it karmically even.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 06:47:28 2016 No.3330856 File: 80 KB, 640x360, bdhdnz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do these guys inspire you confidence?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 15:20:38 2016 No.3331513 >>3330856 Not really no. Couldn't even do a 5 room demo without it being bugged up the ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 15:31:55 2016 No.3331536 It seems interesting but I abhor the design of the items and how absolutely bloated the game is. Plus the demo always crashes at the same spot. I feel like I'd get more fun if I just played the original.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 16:41:57 2016 No.3331726 File: 601 KB, 1224x1222, 8feae5e7921610d328cb39591053d2f4-d31ijwn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It needs to happen harder. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock?token=a72debe1

Anonymous Sat Jul 2 16:52:26 2016 No.3331778
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>mfw there are people actually defending Unity

Unity is great for 2D games like this:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/373970/

But it's terrible for 3D games like this:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/240760/

Unity is cheap and requires less overhead, but that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 16:59:47 2016 No.3331810 Why the FUCK wasn't it done in Unreal 4?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:00:23 2016 No.3331814 >>3331810 $

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:07:56 2016 No.3331837 >>3331810 Unreal stopped being affordable and it needs a lot of dependencies from other middleware engines Unity sucks but it's a size fits all type of glove

Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:16:04 2016 No.3331856

>>3331778
Pillars of eternity might just be the best looking unity game. Let's see who still apreciates subtlelty here.

>>3331810
Inexperience would be my guess. If you never worked with unreal edit in your youth, never worked for epic megagames and look like a highschool drop out tattoo artist, then unreal is not for you. It won't make your game look good no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:32:17 2016 No.3331891 >>3331814 >>3331837 Wait what? Wasn't UE4 free? Or was that just a limited offer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:35:40 2016 No.3331898 >>3331891 If by free you mean a cut of your profits, then yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:44:19 2016 No.3331924 >>3331726 >It needs to happen harder. It's happening hard enough. If you've any spare dosh you want to throw to wind then feel free.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 17:47:14 2016 No.3331930 File: 7 KB, 250x232, e0f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3331891 >When a kid thinks things in society are free

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 2 19:33:24 2016 No.3332140 >>3325651 It's higher resolution but I don't like it as much. Too much of the same shade of blue. There is too little color outside of blue. TUBES are also very overdone on the right. I honestly like left more.

Anonymous Sat Jul 2 22:45:06 2016 No.3332487

>>3332140
Well that's pure geometry versus fancy pants "photorealism" argument again. I think it looks just the right kind of dull industrial with neon lights, nails that neuromancer/snow crash cyberpunk look. And while the original game does succeed in making its environments less dull than graph paper wolfenstein labirinths, it's still very simple geometry that does look same-y. That's where pipes and environmental clutter come in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 3 22:17:50 2016 No.3334906 >>3326026 There are plenty of people who had System Shock 2 as their first who can't get into the original.

Anonymous Sun Jul 3 22:51:19 2016 No.3334960

>>3325949
i wouldn't say terrible programming

the only programming issue that port had was the fact that it constantly runs at 4k resolution internally so that's why no one could run it for a bit

the true problem is they didn't realize they had to compress the files

Anonymous Sun Jul 3 23:06:03 2016 No.3334981

>>3331778
Unity is actually pretty good as long as whatever you are making is something with little graphical power, 2d or 3d
case in point: http://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/
for something like wasteland 2, I can only wonder what the fuck they were thinking, would have been better do use a different engine entirely, or modify an existing one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 3 23:10:22 2016 No.3334986 >>3334981 >case in point: http://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/ You mean something without human models, basically

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 3 23:12:00 2016 No.3334990 >>3334986 yea essentially, although I'm sure human models could be done on unity well enough if you weren't lazy, unlike almost all Early Access/Kikestarter indie devs

Anonymous Sun Jul 3 23:26:16 2016 No.3335019

>>3325651
>>3326000
Remember that this was supposed to be a remaster of SS1, not a remake. If I was one of the kickstarter backers I'd be fucking pissed at this level of bait-and-switch right now.
Also remember that the devs took down Powerslave EX and Turok EX in order to sell them to you for a profit as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 01:39:48 2016 No.3335198 >>3325983 >spaghetti code i do not think it means what you think it means

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 05:00:55 2016 No.3335550 >>3335019 >Remember that this was supposed to be a remaster of SS1, not a remake They already did that with SS Enhanced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 09:19:05 2016 No.3335798 >>3335198 I think I know my software pejoratives, which are universaly figurative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:27:29 2016 No.3337470 >>3325941 >WADAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ? Please choke.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:37:34 2016 No.3337482 >>3325731 There is no vanilla, it already IS a modded System Shock

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:10:12 2016 No.3338043 File: 272 KB, 250x250, shig.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw shodan makes anti-gg reference >yfw "waitaminute, that card!" -moments >yfw dubstep soundtrack >yfw "we want the call of duty audience"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:22:09 2016 No.3338442 >>3335798 >i think I know something about something i know nothing about Another autistic baby who thinks words mean whatever he wants them to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:31:34 2016 No.3338461 >>3328918 this, it ran fine on my 3gb card.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 21:03:55 2016 No.3339654 >>3338442 If you perceive language, especially jargon, as a rigidly defined structure you are the one with a mild onset of autism, my friend. I can argue semantics for a year, try me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:45:34 2016 No.3339846 >>3339654 >an autist like me can argue semantics for a year. I know. That's why I won't bother trying to argue with you. I'll just point out that you're a retarded autist who thinks his made up definition on words is the correct one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:47:51 2016 No.3340198 >>3325941 Unity is notorious for being a performance hog so that's probably why.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:58:59 2016 No.3340228 >>3335019 >Remember that this was supposed to be a remaster of SS1, not a remake. Err no?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:40:01 2016 No.3340312 >>3330856 >Janitor emptying trash staring in through the window lol

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:49:56 2016 No.3340326

>>3339846
>I'll just point out that you're a retarded autist who thinks his made up definition on words is the correct one.
Well done anon, well done. HOWEVER you might wanna check the address bar in your browser before using "retarded autist" as an implied insult.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 06:05:04 2016 No.3340474
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>>3330856
No colored hair or weird piercings, that is good. The tattooed girl and that weird hitler hair guy worries me, they have that "indie dev look".

Everybody knows the real nerd shit is made by real nerds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:04:54 2016 No.3340526 >>3340326 I'm not using it as an implied insult. I'm using it as an objectively accurate diagnosis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:14:53 2016 No.3340534 >>3325734 That mod is shit. All it does is shorten the text to how it sounds in the audio. And often there was useful information in the text that wasn't in the actual spoken lines

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:16:40 2016 No.3340537 >>3330441 >it's a Japanese game No it's not, you idiot. Stop talking out of your ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:19:35 2016 No.3340541 >>3335019 >Also remember that the devs took down Powerslave EX and Turok EX in order to sell them to you for a profit as well. And they even paid the guy who made them as well, the greedy heartless bastards. That was sarcasm by the way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:22:17 2016 No.3340545 File: 79 KB, 756x473, I wonder what the code is.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3338043 >>yfw "waitaminute, that card!" -moments wait a minute that blood...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 07:49:31 2016 No.3340559 >Unity Welp, can't wait to play the game with 40 FPS.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 08:56:18 2016 No.3340604

>>3340559
This, I have a 960 and was getting 50 with drops, the game doesn't look nearly that graphically intense to justify that kind of performance. I know it's a demo but look at Unreal Tournament 4, that game looks great and runs ridiculously smooth despite still being in development.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 10:34:53 2016 No.3340709 >>3340545 To be fair, the original game has the code right there as well, although in the form of an audiolog. Here's to hoping they just haven't recorded the log yet

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