homm3 / heroes 3

[Anonymous No.331632]

We encourage our players to post some screenshots to stirr up the level of disscussion in the thread.
Share your tactics, custom maps, favourite heroes, units, towns...

>HD mod
sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/

>Wake of gods + Era II mod
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=37208

>VCMI - engine rewrite for homm3 ( requires WoG )
http://forum.vcmi.eu/portal.php

>implying this isn't becoming a general at all

[Anonymous No.331668]

First for necropolis being overhyped. You stand no chance in a real multiplayer game since everyone's gonna try to kill you first.

[Anonymous No.331687]

>>331632
>Wake of gods + Era II mod

Links dead.

Also on Win7 64 bit cant skip intro after launching WoG trough the HD mod.

Can do this normally by editing some registry entries and running the WoG exe as administrator and as a windowsXP process.
However if I try to run it trough the HD mod it gives me error 740.

[Anonymous No.331814]

>>331632
Third for woodmills generated on the other side of the fucking mountains on random maps.

[Anonymous No.331832]

>>331687
>Links dead.
Works just fine for me.

What WoG version do you have? What about the hd mod version? Did you watch the intro at least once?

Using both latest works, running through the HD launcher, on 64bit for me.

[Anonymous No.332045]

>>331632

didnt get an answer to this in the last thread, but what difficulty did most folks play the sod campaign on? i almost like how the other campaigns don't let you choose your difficulty, though 2/3 of the maps are too easy because the AI is too retarded on easy difficulty.

[Anonymous No.332159]

>>332045
I remember playing it on hard back then, so that's what I would recommend: hard or expert. You start with really good heroes there, after all.

[Anonymous No.332176]

>>332045
i played on impossible, the hardest one was with yog because no spell book allowed.
didnt finished the last one though, it became too easy

[Anonymous No.332187]

I don't know if any of you have been in /gsg/ on /vg/, or know of AAR's anyway, but it might be fun if we posted them in here and did Heroes ones.
It'll have to be after thursday for me due to busy schedule but we could have fun with it

[Anonymous No.332201]

>>331632
you should add this link http://www.vgmaps.com/
it contains all h3 campaign maps, and maps of other retros

[Anonymous No.332210]

Anybody know where I can find all the expansions to this? I downloaded them all as a giant rar back 5 years ago and now I lost it.

[Anonymous No.332213]

>>332159
Seconded, I just started his capaign. Well, what to say... Sharpshooters?

[Anonymous No.332239]

>>332210
Do you mean Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death or the Chronicles series?

[Anonymous No.332242]

>>332239
Chronicles only. I have the hardcopies of the other ones. Anybody have any links for the Chronicles games? Anybody even played them?

[Anonymous No.332267]

>>332213

i'll probably rock them on hard then. look forward to it but i have a long way to go (barely halfway through RoE)

[Anonymous No.332268]

How about some underdog faction hints/strategies, such as Inferno?

Always liked, but always getting raped, even by AI :(

[Anonymous No.332297]

>>332242
They're just campaigns, no new stuff. If you played vanilla, AB and SoD campaigns and still want more you might be interested, otherwise don't bother with them.

[Anonymous No.332302]

>>332268
If you get raped by AI, simply get better, there is no strategy for that.
And for Inferno specifically - demon farm.

[Anonymous No.332362]

What version of the HD Mod do I get? 3.44f or 2.98f?

[Anonymous No.332406]

>>331668
>You stand no chance in a real game on a S or M map since the game won't last long enough for your skeletons/vampires to reach critical mass, and those are the only units you have besides dreadknights that don't suck

[Anonymous No.332426]

>>332406
Hey, hey, hey...
Liches don;t suck.

[Anonymous No.332431]

>>332297
Campaigns are new stuff in my book. Hell the only reason I'm playing Heroes of M&M is because I got addicted to the plot from M&M. I'm in it for the plot. Otherwise I'm not such a strategy gamer. I like my RPGs.

[Anonymous No.332464]

>>332431
Then Chronicles, are, well vital - for starters, you get to know who the hell is Tarnum and all that stuff with Sword of Frost.

[Anonymous No.332475]

>>332431

Chronicles has good campaigns then. And lots of them too.

GOG.com sells them all in a pack for 10 bucks. And of course that means they're easy to pirate if you're that way inclined.

[Anonymous No.332495]

>>332406
>vampire lords
>liches
>suck

[Anonymous No.332504]

What does Wog got over vanilla Homm3 besides High Res and shitty new units and towns? I don't care about mapmaking and scripting and such.

[Anonymous No.332507]

>>332495
He mentioned vampires.
And true, liches do not suck. Mediocre is my guess.

[Anonymous No.332519]

>>332504
>High Res

Woah woah. High res is from the HD mod, not WoG.

Apart from an amateurish look and feel, WoG adds some scripting options and other gameplay modifiers.

[Anonymous No.332536]

>>332504
There are no new towns in WoG (beside neutral swap for Confulux). It basically got a shitload of new, welp, options - commanders (which are like a heroes but fight on the battlefield), stack experience and levels, many new objects, ability to destroy towns and rebuild them, balance changes, some FUN (and usually ridiculous) stuff...

[Anonymous No.332545]

>>332536
the best feature was unlearning skills I'd say

[Anonymous No.332558]

>>332536

sounds kinda lame, but maybe once (if) i get bored of homm3, ill give it a try.

[Anonymous No.332572]

>>332558
That is exactly what should happen - WoG is basically (for me at least) the tool to make random maps more interesting and challenging.

[Anonymous No.332602]

>>332475
>>332475
oh crap! Thanks for the tip, bro. $10 definitely fits into my budget.

[Anonymous No.332604]

>>332504
There are good WoG maps and customization is nothing to scoff at. But the campaign sucks.

[Anonymous No.332637]

That WOG "Get artifact when level up" rule really doesn't mess around around. After a few levels it seems to just throw relic artifacts at you.

[Anonymous No.332643]

>>332602
Pirate it.

[Anonymous No.332674]

if i want to start with the M&M rpg series, which game is the best to start with?

[Anonymous No.332679]

>>332637
I never use it tbh, so not sure how it works.
Right now I play with both neutral stack size and neutral unit bonuses active (and AI exp set to hard), which is, well... fun? Anyways, magogs with double attack, 30 of them pick off 30 of my own T2 units and have around 40~ hp each...

[Anonymous No.332686]

>>332674
Generally 1 to 5 may seem terribly outdated, but if you can force yourself, try 4 and 5. Of later ones, 6 is probably the best of the series, 7 is not bad either. 8 is mediocre, 9 didn't happen...

[Anonymous No.332756]

Just a quick question... What is h3g opinion on Disciples II? I owned (yeah, lost CD somewhere) a copy and liked it quite a bit, and some people were rightfully comparing it to H3 as one of few good fantasy turn-based strategies at the time... So?

[Anonymous No.332770]

Is there any way to enable the option to buy units by clicking on their picture in the bottom left of the town screen in Era 2? Because i know that this worked in the vanilla game + HD Mod.

[Anonymous No.332772]

>>332756

Streamlines TBS to the point where it's pretty much a jRPG and you just roll around the map with your one party grinding exp.

[Anonymous No.332812]

>>331687
Which version? Gog version worked fine for me on Win 7 64 bit as well as on Win 8 64 bit while the CD version had numerous errors and often crashed on Win 7. Installed the Gog version on Win 8.

[Anonymous No.332853]

>>332187
There have been some heroes threads on /vg/ at some time but nobody really seemed to care much for them.

[Anonymous No.332879]

>>332302
I love to take my time to strenghten my forces slowly & explore ;_;

Anyhow, concerning demon farming - I didn't quite grasp the idea of it in a previous thread, sort of like a reverse Necromancy?

>You kill the stack you cast it on, instantly. You cannot resurrect it later (although see the above trick for pit lords)
>You then can use that "power" to resurrect a different stack. Assuming you have Expert Fire, you can res (Spell power+Health of unit killed+10)*# of units sacrificed.
>So it's best to use on 1st tier units to ressurect higher tier ones. The most commonly seen method is with the Infernals, who tend to get fire magic and sacrifice in their mage guilds. You have your Efreet Sultans run off and attack a shooter, whereupon the rest of the enemy army surrounds them and kills them, getting burned with the ire shield in the process.
>Sacrifice your imp stack to revive the Efreet, and then Pit lord the dead imps into demons. Voila. You've hurt him and actually strengthened your army.

I'm stoopidt, I know ;(

[Anonymous No.332881]

>>332853
Yeah I know, I mean I also visit the grand strat general from time to time and AAR's are quite common, depicting tales of games they've had etc, and that could be an interesting thing to do for Heroes3.

[Anonymous No.332896]

>>332881

I don't think it would be too interesting for HoMM3. As fun as it is, not much happens in this game.

[Anonymous No.332947]

>>332879
Pit lords special raises demons from a dead friendly stack, the number of demons depends on the size of the killed stack and the size of the Pit Lord stack doing the raising. You get to keep those demons if they survive the battle, so that's the idea: figure out the optimal number of imps your Pit Lords can raise, put that many imps into a separate stack and get them killed in a battle, then raise demons. Repeat until out of fodder to sacrifice and you've effectively replaced shitty tier 1 creatures with shitty tier 4 demons.

[Anonymous No.332976]

>>332853
OP here.
I used to make homm3 threads on /vg/ before /vr/ came out.
They would usually 404 with 100 or less posts.

If people are willing to ( interested in ) switching to /vg/ is no problem. It would be more useful as the bump limit is bigger.

[Anonymous No.332981]

Does anyone have a source to good WoG maps?

[Anonymous No.333000]

>>331632

OP you forgot to add this.

#/vr/[e-mail]

For web-chat over mibbit, use this:
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/#/vr/[e-mail]

[Anonymous No.333016]

>>332896
if you can have an AAR for 500 years of waiting for inheritance and DIPLOMACY, then I'm sure you can have one for this as well.

[Anonymous No.333035]

>>333016

Those GSG ones work because everyone is using the same map and very different things can happen between games, so it's neat seeing what other people's ones are like.

[Anonymous No.333040]

>>332976

I am not sure about it, here indeed there's lesser post limit, but on /vg/ as you said it, threads would soon 404. I think /vg/ is just /v/ with a bit less stoopid and derp.

[Anonymous No.333060]

>>333040
Plus, these threads already last for 3 days, so right now, it is pretty slow going and we are not in desperate need of bigger ones.

[Anonymous No.333090]

>>333040
here

Ditto to what >>333060
said.

[Anonymous No.333093]

>>333000
Should do so.

>>333040
That is the problem.

>>333060
But we should still respect 4chan rules.
>video game "general" threads, which are long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic

[Anonymous No.333112]

>>332947
LMAO, quite well made plain words with a bit a sarcasm, I applaud you, good Sir & will forever be in your debt... IN INFERNO!

Thank you very much :D

[Anonymous No.333138]

>>332947
>You get to keep those demons if they survive the battle
... you do? Who knew.

[Anonymous No.333140]

>>333112

Where's my reaction image folder when I need it...

[Anonymous No.333189]

>>333140
This ought to suffice for now.... Muahahahahaha BURN!

[Anonymous No.333198]

>>333140

[Anonymous No.333224]

>>333093
>we should still respect 4chan rules.
/vg/ threads only stay alive if there is a sufficiently large active audience for them. They are essentially self-contained mini-boards, if there aren't enough people posting they go down.

[Anonymous No.333264]

>>333198
Which Town is the one over Tower? Never seen that before.

[Anonymous No.333270]

>>333264

Inferno without a Fort.

[Anonymous No.333276]

>>333264
Inferno without fort.

[Anonymous No.333384]

Is Astral (Tower's Hero with hypnotize) useless?
I really like hypnotize, but it seems to be able to control very few hitpoints of creatures.
Do things change with a levelled up Astral? Or would i need just tons of spell power to make Hypnotize viable? Solmyr is tiring me.

[Anonymous No.333396]

>>333384

Vanilla Hypnotize is pretty bad. I use a balance patch and it makes it gives it a bit of a buff.

[Anonymous No.333484]

>>333396
Umh, what is the bonus give by Astral?
Normally it would be Spellpower X 25 + 10/20/50, Astral how much increases this value?

[Anonymous No.333493]

>>333270
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT

[Anonymous No.333496]

>>333276
DON'T MAKE ME COME EAT YOUR BABBYZ[/reaction face]

[Anonymous No.333527]

>>333396

does hypnotize just consider the HP of creature in a stack, or all the combined creatures in a stack?

[Anonymous No.333539]

>>333527

Combined.

>>333484

Not too sure sorry. It doesn't seem like it makes enough of a difference though.

Whenever I play Tower I pick Aine for starting hero and hope for someone good in tavern. One time I got the Castle guy with Archery specialty, shit was crazy with Tower.

[Anonymous No.333548]

Any opinions on Eagle Eye?
>http://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=31

...Or Scholar & similar "learning" skills?

[Anonymous No.333549]

>>333484
iirc heroes 3 is very intransparent about spell specialties, usually not worth it

[Anonymous No.333556]

>>333548

Scholar is ok, I like having it on a scout hero early game so they can visit all the Shrines then teach the spells to my main.

[Anonymous No.333557]

>>333484
hero's spell specialties are usually 3% * (hero lvl/target creature lvl).

[Anonymous No.333590]

>>333548
Eagle Eye is completely terrible.

Scholar is useful, but it's better to have it on one of your scouts.
There's one good hero for main starting with this skill: Neela.

[Anonymous No.333593]

>>333548
You don't become much cooler than an eagle with quarduple laser eyes. And that is about it.

[Anonymous No.333603]

>>333590
>There's one good hero for main starting with this skill: Neela.

And the Warlock who starts with Resurrection.

[Anonymous No.333613]

I'm probably one of the worst HoMM 3 players. I only use one hero. Ever. No scouts, no second army, nothing. One hero that gets all troops, experience and spells and steamrolls over the map.
I suck but I still have fun..

[Anonymous No.333625]

>>333613
Having fun is the most important thing here.

[Anonymous No.333627]

>>333613

I started playing HoMM3 when I was 11/12, and played like that cause I didn't know any better. 10 years later, it's a hard habit to break.

[Anonymous No.333639]

>>333627

That's exactly my case, too.

[Anonymous No.333645]

>>333224
There's threads on /sp/ about Football Manager and FIFA all the time. Those would be /vg/ things but due to a number of reasons they stay in /sp/. Given the fact that the /vg/ threads never lasted long, I'd say we're in the clear.

[Anonymous No.333651]

>>333627
I've graduated to 2/3 heroes, you'll notice a nice improvement in scouting and resource gathering, without having to micromanage too many heroes

[Anonymous No.333671]

>>333556
Cheers :)
>>333590
What about Thane, who has ADVANCED Scholar & +1 speed to genies? Only Tower hero who has that, who else?
>>333593
Oh hush lol, it's for role-playing purposes, making the most of it! ;D

[Anonymous No.333685]

>>333603
Yeah, forgot about him. he's decent too.
Of course there are more 'mainable' heroes starting with this skill, but overall it's better to use / pick on start other hero.

>>333613
Check how many things good player can do in one turn with proper hero management:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlqVf3Ss10

>>333627
i started playing right after release when i was 8 year old. always had 4-6 heroes at time.
now i always have 4 heroes when starting on difficulty below 200%.

[Anonymous No.333709]

>>333685
basically i prefer to spend entire 10k on 160% difficulty day1 on heroes ( instead of building something in town ).

[Anonymous No.333742]

Any other Heroes3 players hyped? The savior of modern fantasy TBS is almost upon us.

[Anonymous No.333753]

>>333613
>>333627
>>333639
I CHALLENGE YOU TO MORTAL KOMBAT (for failing as well) xD
>>333603
Alamar AND Jeddite ;)

Am unable to break the habit of picking a hero who specializes in Logistics first:

>Rampart: Kyrre
>Dungeon: Gunnar
>Stronghold: Dessa
+Monere for Conflux, basic Logistics

After that, ESTATES MONEY MONEY +350 omfg need moar (gawd I suck in this game)

[Anonymous No.333754]

>>333645
+1

[Anonymous No.333763]

>>333753
I respect your intrest in HoMM, but kindly get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.333773]

>>333742
looks more like king's bounty to me

[Anonymous No.333792]

>>333753
Whatever hole you came from, get the fuck back there and never come here again.

[Anonymous No.333803]

>>333742
Never heard of it before. Will look into it, although I doubt it'll be even better than Heroes 6 or 5, not speaking of 3. But I'd be happy to be wrong

[Anonymous No.333819]

>>333792
>Crag_Hack_slaps_his_slave.jpg

[Anonymous No.333830]

>>333803

It's a 3d remake of a 2d game that's out now. After playing the 2d one, I'd say this will hands down beat Heroes 6, and from a gameplay perspective I think it's a bit better than Heroes 3. It just lacks the charm.

[Anonymous No.333874]

>>333763
Yes, Master...
>>333792
Ass you will, my Liege...

[Anonymous No.333891]

>>333874
they're cunts, go to gamefaqs/strategywiki/fan sites

[Anonymous No.334152]

>>333830
Heroes 3 without the charm are hardly Heroes 3 in my eyes.

Personally, the smooth way it plays may be the reason I keep playing it, but the charm is why I'm coming back to play it again in the first place.

Also, would you be willing to elaborate on how, exactly, it is better? Unit balance, combat mechanics, magic..

[Anonymous No.334239]

Are random maps really that bad like you guys always picture them? I kinda get bored from the defaul maps.

[Anonymous No.334248]

>playing WoG with tons of rules like extra starting money and double movement
>first player killed after 1 week on XL map with underworld

Gotta go fast

[Anonymous No.334274]

>>334152

Yeah, the charm from Heroes 3 is important to me too.

Anyway, Eador is sorta similar to HoMM, but has some major differences. Each army is led by a hero, but the hero fights in the battles (like HoMM4, but it works properly in this game). Level ups work the same, you get offered a few random skills, which might be new skills or improvements to old ones. There are 4 hero classes, and at lvl 10 each can choose an advanced class (4 to choose from for each of the basic classes) that grants some unique bonus. Units are individuals instead of stacks, and each unit can level up and choose little bonuses (like +1 hp/morale/stamina, sometimes they also get offered special skills).

The battles have more depth, terrain is really important and you can make much better use of it. For instance, a ranged unit will get +1 range when standing on a Hill hex. Swampy hexes take more movement points to go through. Forest hexes provide more ranged def. Etc.

The adventure map is probably the biggest difference. It's divided into fairly large provinces. It's sorta like Civ in that you move your armies from province to province, instead of running around freely like in HoMM. But one really cool thing is that each province can have a lot of stuff in it. You select your hero, and then can bring up a list of all locations on the province and choose one to go to. Each province will also have a population and mood. And you can build buildings on provinces, but only 3 each. Your starting province is your capital, and that's where you do your proper construction. There are a LOT more buildings compared to HoMM.

Oh, and then there are plenty of random events that appear from time to time. Most of them are fairly tricky and will bend you over the first time you get them, I could give examples but don't wanna spoil anything.

Anyway, I'd suggest either pirating or buying Eador: Genesis, it's the 2d one and available for $6 from GOG.

[Anonymous No.334286]

>>334239
They can either be awesome or fuck you sideways. It's just a matter of luck. I prefer random maps personally.

[Anonymous No.334297]

>>334274
Intriguing. Thank you for your time.

[Anonymous No.334326]

>>334248
Why do you have peasants?

[Anonymous No.334365]

>>334326
Cannon fodder

[Anonymous No.334368]

>>334297

No problem broseph.

[Anonymous No.334381]

>>334326
They're essentially a free single-use meatshield.

And they draw enemy attention like a hundred-thousand dollar white whore in downtown Detroit, which makes them useful for minimizing casualties against neutrals.

[Anonymous No.334429]

>>334274
Thank you for specifying.
Seems really cool, if it's somehow like HoMM and Civ. As Civ and HoMM are the only games I played lately (well, aside Bioshock Infinite, which was truly awesome) and never get bored of playing. Just pirated Eador Genesis. If I like it I might consider buying the new one on April 19th, if that one's good, too.

[Anonymous No.334462]

>>334381
>>334365
Ok, makes sense, but where did you recruit them? In my many hours of playing homm I never came along a peasants dwelling. Or did they just join your forces?

[Anonymous No.334571]

>>334462
There's a hovel roughly one screen length away from my starting town. Those peasants actually were 25 before fighting the blue player, but most of them died being shields.

Those Hovels seem to spawn somewhat rarely though. Most random maps i play seem to have 2 at most

[Anonymous No.334669]

>>334571

[Anonymous No.334692]

>>332853
There was a series of threads for something like the first month or so before they died out. Hopefully this one will last longer.

[Anonymous No.334723]

>>334571
Ah, thanks. I've never played random maps. So that's probably why I didn't find them

[Anonymous No.334724]

>>334692
The key to lasting participation would be something along the lines of a weekly "best of 16" tournament or something along those lines, arranged via a /vr/ homm3 steamgroup or somesuch.

[Anonymous No.334779]

>>332770
This is something I would like to know too. It's one of the biggest things stopping me from bothering with WoG

[Anonymous No.334782]

>live your whole life in a hovel
>some guy comes with an army and forces you to join
>think you'll finally win honor and glory on the battlefield
>end up as a meatshield for some tentacle monsters with ten eyes

[Anonymous No.334835]

>>334782
still better fate than joining the legion

[Anonymous No.334974]

>>334782

Or even crappier fate:

>some guy arrives with army filled with undead monstrosities.
>still follow, scared shitless
>be brought to Necromancer's town.
>have your throat cut, and later your flesh stripped from you to come back as a skeleton.

[Anonymous No.335305]

>>334974
>not wanting to be part of a glorious skeleton army

[Anonymous No.335454]

>>334782
WoG actually has an option that allows you to upgrade peasants. I never use it though...

[Anonymous No.335648]

>>335454
Upgrade them into what? Super Peasants with 1.33 Attack/Def/HP?

[Anonymous No.335695]

>>335648

[Anonymous No.335961]

>>335695

Probably just turns them into the towns upgraded lvl 1.

[Anonymous No.336094]

>>335695
>>335961
>some hero marches through your village with a huge fucking army
>conscripts you and most of your friends
>march on for a while, get tired, set up camp
>wake up as some kind of fairy titty monster
>not_sure_if_want.jpg

[Anonymous No.336125]

>>336094

>die next battle anyway

Anyway, I'm redownloading HoMM5 at the mo. Any good mods or anything?

[Anonymous No.336183]

>>336125
That one mod that removes that annoying FWOOP sound every time you mouse over an icon.

Seriously, it's fucking annoying. That mod is a lifesaver.

[Anonymous No.336190]

>>336094
That is my fetish.

[Anonymous No.336243]

is there a wog option to disable all the new monsters and buildings?

[Anonymous No.336275]

>>336183

I've played 5 briefly (only did like, one map) and didn't notice that. Probably will now though, lel.

[Anonymous No.336313]

>>336243
Should be; as far as I remember, everything it does is optional. I think there's even an "uncheck all" button somewhere.

[Anonymous No.337798]

It's seems WoG does not like the option that improves Warmachines and First Aid, because the game often crashes when someone uses a First Aid tent.

[Anonymous No.337846]

>>337798
I've never had any trouble with that. Are you sure you're using an up-to-date version?

Alternatively, try running WoG through ERA. It may help.

[Anonymous No.340787]

ded thread

[Anonymous No.341015]

>>337846
This is actually in Era 2, but it seems to only have problems with Enhanced Warmachines 1. The other 2 and the combination rule all work fine.

[Anonymous No.341041]

>>340787

Not dead, just most americans are asleep now.

Also, BUMP!

[Anonymous No.341070]

Is Castle the town that got buffed the most in Era Ⅱ

Champions get 20% bonus per hex and crusaders have a chance to deal double damage like Dread Knights and still attack twice. It's pretty crazy to have some champions deal 300% extra damage.

[Anonymous No.341221]

>>341070
Is this in that whole Yona mod? I play with it disabled.

[Anonymous No.341307]

Are there any maps that are actually beatable on Impossible? Other than 1v1.

[Anonymous No.341325]

Frak gameplay changing mods (HD one excluded, of course).

1133x664, wee...

[Anonymous No.341361]

Anyone wanna play via Gameranger?
Nickname: fuuz

[Anonymous No.341792]

>>341325
nope

only custom maps

[Anonymous No.341802]

>>341307

Almost all of them are beatable on Impossible. Back when I played more actively with my brother we almost always picked that difficulty.

[Anonymous No.341908]

two questions for y'all...

1) dragon utopias -- how often in games do you even get to these? seems to me that 90% of the time, by the time you have forces capable of defeating a couple dozen neutral dragons without suffering significant losses, you should just be marching on your opponents instead.

2) warriors tombs - is the minus morale penalty permanent, or just for the week? in that regard, do you guys just ignore the tombs or maybe send scout heroes to raid them?

[Anonymous No.341916]

>>341908
>by the time you have forces capable of defeating a couple dozen neutral dragons without suffering significant losses, you should just be marching on your opponents instead.

What if your opponent has similar forces to you and he has been taking Utopias? He will have a huge gold/artifact advantage.

[Anonymous No.341926]

>>341908
i use scouts for the tombs, the morale negativity lasts until after the next battle. Morale and Luck always resets after every battle just in case you didn't know.

The dragon utopia's IMO are ALWAYS worth raiding - 20k minimum gold, several artifacts (of which 1 is always a relic, usually 2) - it's worth it whenever you can take them dragons on.

[Anonymous No.341929]

>>341908
If your enemy isn't playing like shit or almost destroyed already, he should be able to muster an army that should compare to your own. In fact, on many random XL maps that i played, the AI will already have raided quite a few utopia themselves.

[Anonymous No.341936]

>>341908
1) When playing against friends, they will usually not be as brain-dead as AI, so all those artifacts will probably give you an edge. And Against AI, I usually want to have fun, and getting shitton of relics is included in my definition of fun.
2) Unitl next battle.

[Anonymous No.341965]

If I raid a utopia, or any creature stash, is the number of units in them always the same or do they re-roll another set of units if I go into it the next time?

[Anonymous No.341971]

>>341965
I think the utopia is always the same number, but things like troglodyte mines can vary if i'm not mistaken. The creature stashes I'm not entirely sure, I've honestly never looked.

[Anonymous No.341979]

>>341965
You can't raid a utopia more than once. The number of creatures is chosen at random out of a few possible numbers and changes should you save before raiding it. You can save-scum until you get the best possible numbers + rewards should you want to.

[Anonymous No.341985]

>>341979

So if my heroes died during the raid there's no possibility for trying again?

[Anonymous No.342014]

>>341985
That should work. I thought you meant raiding it again after clearing it.

[Anonymous No.342120]

>>341908
>2) warriors tombs - is the minus morale penalty permanent, or just for the week? in that regard, do you guys just ignore the tombs or maybe send scout heroes to raid them?

Morale penalty is there until next battle, so just search the grave and then attack a wandering stack of weak enemies.

[Anonymous No.342407]

Have you guys ever tried selecting a +350 gold/estates hero as your starter and hoping for a decent main hero in your tavern?

It's my main strategy of choice on King/Impossible difficult, but I can see it being pretty weak on other difficulties.

[Anonymous No.342497]

>>342407

if a hero has estates or logistics, i pretty much always grab them.

granted, i usually play against the AI, but gold and movement seem to me to be the most important parts of the game.

[Anonymous No.342524]

>>342407

on impossible, yes. If I find a witch hunt that grants estates I usually just pour all my side heroes on that motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.342661]

>>342407
Unless you get them early on estate/gold heroes aren't worth much. In HoMM4 nobility heroes (with mining and estates subskills) on the other hand are pretty much vital since the getting gold is a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.342913]

>>342661

this much seems obvious, but i tend to buy most of my heroes within the first 1-2 weeks. unless i am rolling with 8 heroes i try to buy all of them the 1st couple days if not the first day

though this obviously only works on lower difficulties

[Anonymous No.342949]

>>341965


If you go with a hero into an utopia, a griffith bastion, etc and the message if you want to fight comes up , choose no.
Now you can see how many creatures are in it.

[Anonymous No.342976]

/mu/ = NMH
/tv/ = Drive
/vr/ = Heroes 3

[Anonymous No.343254]

>>342976
Well, there always are Gauntlet and Roller Coaster Tycoon threads as well on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.343278]

>>343254
/vr/ = The Gauntlet.

It sounds so much more menacing and difficult like retro was

[Anonymous No.344247]

>>342661
I really should get around to at least TRYING HoMM4...
I bought a package deal where I got both 3 and 4 for $10, and haven't even given it the ol' college try yet!

[Anonymous No.344253]

>>343278
/vr/'s wild ride?

[Anonymous No.344273]

>>344247
IMO not as bad as people make it look. Worse than III by a wide margin, visibly non-polished in some areas, but still can be fun.

[Anonymous No.344335]

>>344273
>>344247
>HoMM3 has childhood nostalgia on its side for me
>almost everyone on the internet says 3>4 (all of them really)

At least I can tell myself it's not all nostalgia's fault when I get tired of the game and yearn for more 3!

Installing now, regardless.

>>344253
I want to get off Mr. Sandro's wild ride!

[Anonymous No.344383]

I have only played HOMM 1 through 4. Is there a way to D/L HOMM 5?

[Anonymous No.346268]

>>344383
Yeah, you can find it on the internet.

[Anonymous No.346396]

>>344273

To be fair, HoMM4's embarrassing state had a lot to do with the fact that it was developed while the company was circling the drain and in a state of panic. I mean the game balance is so awful that even HoMM6 is better (uh, HoMM6 post patches that is, not launch. HoMM6 at launch was an abomination that shall not be spoken of further here).

[Anonymous No.346464]

>>344383

I think it's on steam bundled with its expansions for relatively cheap (which is good because vanilla V is kinda meh). But I'd wait a few weeks because ubisoft usually puts sales on it's franchises when a new entry in the series is released, and VIs expansion is coming out...uh....eventually...assuming the release isn't pushed back a fourth time.

[Anonymous No.346847]

>>332362
Highest.

[Nameless Grunt !!ybAZc6Ra2OQ No.347862]

Random Shadow of Death question:
Is there a way to make Unholy Alliance remember the secondary skills that Gem, Gelu, Yog and Crag Hack have learned (i.e., stuff that I chose for them) in their individual campaigns? Or do I just have pray I get a random set that's decent for them?

And yes, I am talking about going through their 4 campaigns and then going into Unholy Alliance.

[Anonymous No.348431]

>>332674
3 for the DOS games or 6 for the windows games. Most agree 6 and 7 are the best of the series. 6-8 have a plot tie-in with HoMM. 1-5 had their own storyline which is only loosely related to the rest of the series, although 4 and 5 combined for 1 huge game and it was a major accomplishment at the time.

[Anonymous No.348574]

>>347862
no, reroll until crag and gelus stats become useful, gem and yog are useless

[Anonymous No.350516]

>>333891
That's probably where he came from in the first place, let him rot there.

[Anonymous No.351038]

Morning bump.

[Anonymous No.351319]

>playing WoG
>2nd week
>my scout hero has Scouting (upgraded for random events)
>he encounters troops which wish to joind him
>mfw its a Faerie Dragon

[Anonymous No.351942]

>HoMM 5 has better gameplay than 3
>But everything takes longer to do and you can see less on the adventure map (compared to HoMM 3 HD)

Also the camera feels jittery when you're scrolling around.

About to try HoMM 3 on linux, hopefully it and the HD mod work properly for me.

[Anonymous No.351964]

>>351942

Neat, seems to work fine.

[Anonymous No.351970]

I really dislike the adventure map in homm5.
Homm3 adventure map seems much more colorful and filled more details.

[Anonymous No.351981]

>>351970

Yeah, and you can see everything at a glance really easily. When I tried 5, I'd miss artifacts and resources because they were sorta hidden behind trees and other things. Maybe it just takes getting used to, I dunno.

[Anonymous No.352156]

>>336183
someone shares my hate for that sound.

thank you

[Anonymous No.353293]

>>351942
HOMM5 had godly town screens mind you.

I haven't spent much time playing HOMM5, but the majority of it was just looking around in the towns.

I just hated the World of Warcraft style bling bling design they used for every damn creature - they all had billions of nonfunctional and expensive accessories. It's a strategy war game not a fashion show!

[Anonymous No.353378]

>>353293
The town layouts were nice indeed (and I actually liked the main menu theme music) but I have to agree with you there. I fucking loved the dreadknight design from HOMM3.

[Anonymous No.353691]

>>353293
That - and those bloody particle effects with every single attack - probably to cover up the fact that some attacks didn;t even reach the target, and some sliced it in half.
I did not necessarily liked the fact that they forced round theme with every city, but overall, they were not bad indeed.

[Anonymous No.353787]

>>353378
The thing with the HOMM3 designs is that they are... functional. It's like how you'd expect a medival army to look like. And not just for Castle, but for all the other factions too. Their clothes, their weapons, they all looked believable and realistic.

In HOMM5, even tier 1 units have as much equipment and clothes as tier 7 units from HOMM3. And for higher level units, there are hundreds of pointless ornaments and artifacts everywhere, which are not functional or may even be a hinderance in combat. They are useless and expensive gadgetry in a time of war on mass-recruited soldiers.
Some units have more stuff to them than your main hero.

Now I'm not saying that they don't look cool (some of the designs are awesome), it's just that they don't belong in a war scenario.

And of course there are some units which go into so much extremes that it's just not funny. This dude for example is something I'd expect seeing in Spawn, not in HoMM.

[Anonymous No.353809]

>>353787
whoops, wrong picture. This is the dude that looks like it came from Spawn. The other one I posted looks like a Warhammer 40k Space Marine.

Then again - Spawn had a character that looked just like that one as well.

[Anonymous No.353882]

>>351981
This is the reason why I can't get into HoMM 5 or 6. They may be good gameplay-wise, but if I can't see shit on the adventure map, I might as well quit playing.

[Anonymous No.353971]

>>353787
i guess dark fantasy themes are out of fashion right now, thanks to blizzard?
also how heroes 3 artwork

[Anonymous No.354306]

In the WoG mod, why was castle, an already top tier town, buffed even further?

[Anonymous No.354313]

That link to WoG, when I downloaded it, avast blocked it as a virus/malware.

[Anonymous No.354317]

>>353882
Stuff is hidden in 5 so you have to use the rotating camera. It sort of makes sense, but I still believe the 3D is redundant in this genre. If you have to force players to use the new gimmick you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.354421]

>>354306
You mean in Yona? Dunno, some funky stuff, I disabled it.
I don;t recall any buffs or balance changes that would affect Castle specifically, though there are a lot, so I might be mistaken.

[Anonymous No.354954]

>>353971
Dang that image is pretty neat. Saved.

[Anonymous No.357041]

Just beat Island Kings (Allied) on Impossible as Fortress.

I have to say, the AI is *pure perfection* when it comes to maximum annoyance, trolling and frustration.

If only they were capable combat tacticians.

[Anonymous No.357203]

>>357041
>spam blindness on all your units
>capture everything
>shit out heroes like there's no tomorrow
>somehow acquire tier 7 and 6 units of different towns

The list goes on. Fuck that AI, really.

[Anonymous No.358114]

could someone please help?
im trying out era but i cant see how to disable those rebalances
i unchecked the box but seems not to work

[Anonymous No.358409]

In all these years of playing this game... I only just noticed this.

>>358114
The sprite changed, the creature is still the same.

[Anonymous No.358514]

>>358409
>that weekly growth
How?!

[Anonymous No.358525]

>>358514
That's not weekly growth, that's the HD mod displaying how many creatures are recruitable in that castle.

[Anonymous No.358567]

>>358409
no, they do +200% damage against cavalry
other castle units have buffs too

[Anonymous No.358686]

>>358567
What? Look closely at the portraits...

[Anonymous No.358732]

>>358686
what do you wish me to see?

[Anonymous No.359085]

>>358732

Malekith and Darkstorn have the same portrait pretty much.

Although I think you were responding to the second part of his post.

>>354317

Probably, but the problem with that is that the game has a "classic" style camera option which is what I was using, and you can't rotate camera in that mode (I don't think).

[Anonymous No.359921]

>>358732
That changes are part of Yona afaik, you have to disable this.

[Anonymous No.360818]

>>354317
Yes, they shouldn't have changed to 3D. 2D was far better. However, I see why they did. With the old 2D they'd have had a hard time attracting new player to the series.

[Anonymous No.361436]

>>358114
>>358114
DAMN this mod looks good

would it work with a ripped version of Heroes 3 too?

[Anonymous No.361527]

>>361436
Whoops, never mind.

Saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSTShgH4w50

and I reconsidered.

[Anonymous No.361539]

>>361527
http://www.strategyplanet.com/homm/camelot/wog/creatures.htm

Like, seriously, Jesus Christ - did a 10 year old design those units?

[Anonymous No.361564]

>>361539
It's what happens when you can't design new models from scratch. You just palette swap or put hydra heads on a dragons.

[Anonymous No.361571]

>>361564
I mean not just the appearance but how incredibly overpowered every new unit is.

Well, except Hydras, their upgrade is shit in comparison.

Also those edgy teen names for them.

[Anonymous No.361575]

how is troll an upgrade to ogre magi?

[Anonymous No.361579]

>>361571
Some units are actually even better than what that page says ingame. I don't know if it's because of additional rules, but Supreme Archangel actually give +2 morale instead of just 1

[Anonymous No.361582]

How long until an indie group comes along, and kickstarts a Heroes 3-remake that actually moves the series forwards instead of backwards?

I'd pay for it.

[Anonymous No.361584]

>>361571
They are overpowered, yes, but the sheer cost of them makes them more of a money sink than anything else. Even tier-1 units in large amounts are a force to be reckoned with. Just as Sandro.

[Anonymous No.361615]

>>361527
What kind of version is that? I can't build any of those special buildings. The only way i ever got those new special units was by finding a place on the map that lets you recruit them or turning on the rule that upgrades tier 7 units into tier 8 at the end of a turn.

[Anonymous No.361628]

Help me out,friends. I've been searching for a map that is basically the HoMM3 logo (the shield with the griffin on it) for a long time now with no success. From what I remember it was L or XL and it had lots of cool shit in it like Azure dragons and all that.

[Anonymous No.361636]

>>361575
Better:

>Halbedier
>suddenly becomes a Nomad because it makes absolutely no sense

>Gnolls
>becoming Rogues

Pure idiocy.

[Anonymous No.361641]

Do I need Dozbox or some shit for this?

Is it just easiest to get it from GoG?

Wat do? The OP post always just talks about mods and HD upscales and shit but does not have the first starting point/step.

[Anonymous No.361649]

>>361636
I didn't mean from the realistic standpoint but Trolls aren't stronger than Ogre Magi are they?

[Anonymous No.361665]

>>361649
They have better stats than Ogre Magi, but no Bloodlust.

Gnoll Marauders -> Rogues actually lose half their defence for a doubled Attack. Not sure if worth it.

[Anonymous No.361673]

>>361641

Just get it from Gog.

[Anonymous No.361678]

Modification failure - Thus I'm only sticking with HD mod which doesn't alter original gameplay.

[Anonymous No.362053]

I honestly like WoG, mainly because it is fun. and I play H3 solely for fun. Also, it makes random map have a lot of more possibilities.

[Anonymous No.362074]

>>362053

get a load of this guy

fun? i play because it's my job

[Anonymous No.362078]

>>361582
No chance, Ubisoft owns Homm.

[Anonymous No.362260]

This stuff is why I don't use WoG too. Also

>Ghost Behemoths

[Anonymous No.362271]

>>362260
They're fucking flying. How...

[Anonymous No.362908]

>>362271

Well...they're ghosts.

[Anonymous No.364910]

I just restarted playing random maps and seem to do something wrong with the settings. When creating a map there are spellscrolls everywhere, like literally every 10 herosteps and the maps suck ass. I remember there very many more possibilities and parameters to change in the random map creator the last time I did it. Probably missing something very stupid or doing something very wrong,

Any help/advice? Vanilla + HD mod only.

[Anonymous No.364952]

>>364910
HD Mod should have the option to change the RMG template. Open up the preference files and take a look through them.

[Anonymous No.365073]

>>364910
Can't you choose rmg template in-game in HD mod, or is that ERA that introduced it?
Eitehr way, it is veery strange, and I have no idea what on earth you do to breake the game in such way.

[Anonymous No.365164]

>>362260
Ghost Behemoth actually sounds weaker than Ancient Behemoth

[Anonymous No.365167]

>>364952
>>365073

No idea what was going on there. Something with the HD mod, I guess. Reinstalled everything and now it works fine. Thanks folks!

[Anonymous No.366178]

>>361571
Supreme Archangels are my favourite Tier 8 unit

[Anonymous No.368760]

>>361628
Its in the cystom scenarios called griffins war or something

[Anonymous No.370095]

>>366178
They might be the ones who gained the most, along with Ghost Behemots and Titans upgrade. No Retaliation is baller, especially on such powerful unit.

[Anonymous No.370481]

European morning bump.

[Anonymous No.370664]

>mfw Heroes III: The Succession Wars

[Anonymous No.370729]

Does anyone have the "Myths and Deities" map based on Greek Mythology that came with the original game but is not on the GoG version?

[Anonymous No.371048]

>>370664
This is fucking awesome.

I'd totally play a mod that changes HOMM3 to have HOMM2 graphics, but still its own gameplay.

[Anonymous No.371060]

>>370729
I can post it when i get home in an hourish, but its not called myths and legends, i believe its pandoras box.

[Anonymous No.371401]

Currently I play through the Sandro campaign for the first time, and the Cloak of the Undead King is ridiculously overpowered.
Also got DD now, and it seems too piss easy even on impossible.

[Anonymous No.371416]

>>370729
http://temp-share.com/show/Pf3Y1ANW2
This is it?

[Anonymous No.371419]

>>361628
Theres a map called Wings of War thats shaped like a griffin, but it doesnt have azure dragons.

[Anonymous No.373070]

Following Scenario:
I'm playing with Inferno on Peaceful Ending. I sent my main exploring the map and was able to conquer a Stronghold Town at this very turn. I have not built the Forsaken place yet nor is the Behemtoh Lair in the Stronghold Town built (all other creature dwellings are built in both towns). However, a necro hero is about to attack my Inferno Town. He has:
9 Vampire Lords
2 Black Knights
5 Liches
21 Archers
23 Gogs
67 Skeletons
Some Wights

How should I react? I wasn't able to defeat him with the creatures I'd bought, although I still could sell some resource in order to buy more creatures. If so, which should I buy? I can provide the save game if anybody wants to try. I also considered building the Behemoth Lair and capturing the Inferno Town later.

Anyhow, I basically just want to know how you would deal with such a situation.

pic related

[Anonymous No.373075]

>>373070
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.373113]

Man, Impossible is really so fucking hard....

what bonuses do they get? I know humans start with 0 resources but do Computers get extra? Or, perchance even extra growth?

[Anonymous No.373117]

[Anonymous No.373148]

>>373075
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are playing WoG with longer battles (or something along those lines) options enabled, right?
Also, what about a defending hero?

[Anonymous No.373159]

i'm intrigued with Eador Genesis

i'll download it and report back, too bad it's /v/ related

[Anonymous No.373171]

>>373075
Get all Gogs -> max_you_can_get(Devils) -> max_you_can_get(Sultans) -> some(Pit Fiends) -> some_more(Cerberi) -> at least 1 of both Horned Demons and Imps just as fodder / to take retaliation.

You have a Castle right?

So eliminate his catapult first, so the Dead Knights can't get inside, then use your melee to kill the Vampire Lords&Wights that will fly over your walls to kill your ranged units. Make sure you engage the Dead Knights last. Kill off Liches first, then Gogs, then Archers (since they will likely have horrible morale). If his catapult is down / your walls are still up, or mostly up, and you've managed to significantly reduce his ranged units and kill the fliers, you might just win the battle. Try to hire some cheap spellcasting hero too perhaps.

If all else fails, but the most expensive units (efreets/devils/pitfiends) just so that he doesn't get them and it will be less of a pain to kill him afterwards.

[Anonymous No.373175]

>>373148
Yea, right.

Ignatius. 3/3/1/1
Exp. Tactics
Basic Armorer
Basic Resistance

[Anonymous No.373185]

>>373159
just post them here. Heroes threads are dead anways now, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.373231]

>>373171
Thanks, I'll try that, although I doubt that I'll be able to kill his catapult. Yes, castle is built.

>If all else fails, but the most expensive units (efreets/devils/pitfiends) just so that he doesn't get them and it will be less of a pain to kill him afterwards.

Wouldn't it be better to build the Behemoth Lair in the Stronghold Town and take Cyclops, Behemoths and Rocs with me to capture it back?

[Anonymous No.373238]

>>373175
So you might want to get more Imps then, seems like he has at least level 3, so that's a 15% increase in ATT/DEF for imps and +1 speed.

[Anonymous No.373289]

>>373231
Can your main not kill him even without that? Seems like his army is pretty weak overall, he just has the lucky drop on you.

[Anonymous No.373362]

Pink dragons are the best

[Anonymous No.373384]

>>373362
You think?

[Anonymous No.373381]

>>373362
Are you colour blind or something?

[Anonymous No.373405]

I'm medicore at HoMM3, how do I become good?

[Anonymous No.373427]

>>373405
Get more heroes, use them, exploit speed in battles to avoid losses.

[Anonymous No.373434]

>>373185
just bought some rednecks and a swordsman for my hero, and got raped by the bandits

i'm liking it so far

[Anonymous No.373486]

>>373119
-> Inferno doesn't have Crag Hack. Inferno has no good heroes at all.
>- Stronghold has Crag Hack, who's one of the best heroes in the game (THE best if you want raw killing power). And one or two other usable heroes as well.
-> Inferno has an absolutely horrible level 4 and level 5 unit (even with farming, they're just ultra bad). It's only really good units are upgraded Cerberi and Efreets. Devil Lords are nice with the Teleport and No Retaliation - but you're unlikely to get them before your opponents get their own T7 units. Imps are completely useless if you don't use the Imp spec. hero. Magogs have a nice ability, but unfortunately, it hurts your units too and their stats are kind of shit.
>- Hobgoblins are much better stat wise than Imps, usable even without the specialized hero. Wolf Riders (the 2x strike version) are extremely good (possibly better than Castle's Champions if you use them wisely), although they're kind of glass canons. Orcs are solid and cheap, they slow you down as fuck but if you get Ogre Magis, you might as well drag those with you, shit in comparison to other T3s but still better than Inferno's shooters. Speaking of OMs they are great to use with the above mentioned, since they're just as slow but are a great meat shield and they can cast Bloodlust with reasonable efficiency. Thunderbirds are just great, perhaps not as good fliers as sultans, but you can rush them to make neutral clearing extremely easy. Cyclops Kings are a vital addition to your army with their wall killing capability, sure, they cost a lot, and are overpriced, but still good. Behemots are, once again, glass canons of their tier. Not as tactically useful as Devils, you need to manage them much more but if you do, they can tear other T7s apart, unlike Devils.

posting this here since other thread is dead

[Anonymous No.373496]

>>370664
>Dat Heroes 2 build noise
WEIOUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.373501]

>>373289
Problem is that, this isn't his main heroe. He has another one with Packs of Vampire Lords and Back Knights.
That's going to become very hard.

[Anonymous No.373514]

>>373384
>Be kid
>Trying out new expansion
>See this guy
>MFW I see its stats

[Anonymous No.373553]

>>373405
If you want an amusing and satisfying way of learning how to become good at combat (specifically, using the Fortress faction) I have a good scenario for that. It's meant to be played on Impossible and if you win, you have an Archangel / 430+ score guaranteed.

You play as Fortress, starting with one underdeveloped town against Stronghold with 3 starting towns, Inferno & Tower with 1 starting town (but both of them extremely developed / they have their Grail structures) and Castle with 2 starting towns, all of them allied against you. And all factions, including yours have all resource buildings available for them, there's loads and loads and loads of stat giving buldings (for you and them, but since they're free to wander around they're going to have likely 3x as much as you) and there's lots of artifact stuff and so on.

However, you're protected from getting rushed by them with a blue one-time gate that only you can unlock.

+ To avoid frustration, there's guaranteed Shackles of War that you can safely get and you will have the most important secondary skills for Fortress available as well as the few good spells you can get from Fortress town. And an another Fortress town waiting for you to conquer.

It's a bit muchkinish but still, it's a bit of a challenge to beat four stacked factions with one (less-or-more stacked depending on how good you do in your own territory) faction.

[Anonymous No.373571]

>>373553
And of course there's some balance rules, like, no shitty items no one can use (Necromancy ones), no shitty secondary skills available during levelup (Eagle Eye, Scholar...) and no game-breaking items / spells either (Dimension Door / Fly / Flying Boots that could allow you to just turtle forever).

[Anonymous No.373604]

>>373514
Getting a bunch of them is so satisfying though.

[Anonymous No.373616]

>>373553
where do I find it?

[Anonymous No.373704]

>>373486
>Imps are completely useless if you don't use the Imp spec.

Their ability to transfix mana has gotten me out of quite a few terrible spots.

[Anonymous No.374404]

>>373486
i just realized how low the stats of ancient behemoths are

[Anonymous No.374579]

>>374404
the only problem with them is lacking speed stat.

as long as it's possible to get 160HP 17 DEF damage sponge day 2/3 it's good enough for me.

>>373486
Stronghold has overall the best heroes in the game.
Crag Hack, Gundula, Gurnisson, Tyraxor, Gretchen, Dessa are all great. All might heroes are decent mains (attack stat priority + starting with offense).

[Anonymous No.374747]

>>373616
I haven't uploaded it anywhere yet. Thinking the H3 community is dead and all that...

[Anonymous No.374772]

>>374747
Then upload it somewhere! Why the hell would you describe a map and then not give it?!

[Anonymous No.374784]

>>374579
>Gurnisson
You what? He specializes in Ballista... even Artillery specialization (if it even exists?) is better than that.

[Anonymous No.374858]

>>374784
Artillery specialization is about use of Balista.

put together with SPD7 Hobgoblins you can take out big number of enemies, simply by luring enemies around.

[Anonymous No.374916]

>>374747
I'll play it, I've been playing H3 all day.

[Anonymous No.374960]

>>374772
>>374916
Apparently you need to send an email to a Russian to get your map on the official Heroes custom map website, so here it is

putlocker
/file/8DE51360DA6AD8A7

Don't expect any coherent story tho. It's really just a map to jerk one's ego. Also, you need The Shadow of Death to play it.

[Anonymous No.375153]

>>373434

The bandits near the start of the tutorial map? Yeah those dudes kicked my ass all over the place the first time I played. The whole game is pretty hard in general I think, but that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.375170]

>>374858
Define big number.

I can't see you taking out anything other than T1, maybe T2 non ranged stacks with it.

[Anonymous No.375189]

>>374858
Ballista does pathetic damage, even with artillery skill. At best it soaks up some attacks from the AI, but it costs a lot and has an annoying tendency to shoot blinded stacks.

[Anonymous No.375212]

>>375189

Artillery skill gives you control of the ballista.

[Anonymous No.375241]

>>375212
I know, but the damage still sucks.

[Anonymous No.375354]

>>375189
>has an annoying tendency to shoot blinded stacks.
OH GOD, this SO MUCH.

>playing against a stacked stronghold
>he has level 20 Crag Hack and 50!!! Ancient Behemoths + Shitloads of other things
>luckily, my heroes is high level too, if Magic
>keep his Behemoth stack blinded since he has lol no Cure/Dispel
>manage to kill everything else in his army, seems like I can still take on those 50 behemots if I cast all my buffs, and all my debuffs and... (I had no fire magic spec, so he would counter attack immaterially)
>fucking ballista shoots them

[Anonymous No.375509]

you are all wrong, ballista is great if you have sufficient attack, ballistic and artillery.
the only problem is that it does not scale once you have a many tier 7 units

[Anonymous No.375591]

>>375509
Not worth the investment. Magic is even better with the related skill and enough spellpower, and it's also versatile, much more powerful and scales with stats and army.

[Anonymous No.376017]

>get the catapult skill on maximum
>catapult still can't hit those towers on the first try most of the time and just destroys random walls

Seriously, that "place a strong unit right in front of the enemy's drawbridge" strategy is worth shit if your catapult destroys a wall because it's aim sucks even at max skill. I aimed at a fucking tower, not some wall.

[Anonymous No.376060]

>>375170
>>375189
With high attack and expert Ballista skill, the ballista can take out 1-2 tier 7 units in one turn, even with distance penalty (it does two shots each at double damage, so 4x attack power). You can also control it, so it doesn't de-blind enemy stacks. (and I chuckle every time I see "ballista takes a defensive stance")
This makes it a very useful thing to have up to mid-game, and still an annoyance at late game - at that point, cost is less an issue and the benefits are still useful.

Artillery gives you control of the castle towers in a siege, not the ballista. It also buffs ranged damage a LOT.

>>375354
Should've cast Slow on the behemots bro.

[Anonymous No.376072]

>>376017
I usually manage to hit the towers 75% of the time with expert catapult.

god that skill is the most annoying thing ever in sieges.

[Anonymous No.376107]

>>376060
Artillery gives you control of both the ballista and the caste towers, since there is no ballista for the defender. Ballistics only allows you to control the catapult.

[Anonymous No.376123]

>>376060
>slow
Yeah, sure.

>cast Expert Slow on my first turn
>he casts Expert Haste
>Ancient Behemoths run up to my best stack and kill it with literally one hit

[Anonymous No.376149]

>>376072
No, that would be * Armorer +50% dmg from towers, great fun.

[Anonymous No.377571]

Hey guys don't know if you know or not but i have uploaded all the Maps and Portraits to import chronicles into Heroes III. Works perfectly in the complete set. Place the Tarnum folder in the Data folder of your installation, and the Maps in the maps. Then go to custom campaign in game to play each game through. Seems to be working perfectly. If the next Thread Maker could mirror it and link to it in the OP it would be great. Means you can run the campaigns with HD mod and WOG on it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?d0k3yehcr68lt5y

Have fun guys

[Anonymous No.378207]

>>374960
>>377571
Thanks, guys. Just downloaded, will check it out after I got some sleep.

[Anonymous No.378254]

>>377571

my pc broke when I tried to play the lostboy.h3c map

[Anonymous No.379149]

>>377571
Chronicles comes without videos?

[Anonymous No.379234]

just found out how era works, nice piece of software

[Anonymous No.379483]

>>379149
Nah its got the videos in it, just they are Heroes III stock anyway. Theres just no voice over for the opening videos of each scenario.

[Anonymous No.380206]

European morning bump.

While I'm here, does anybody have a list of which units are good for which sides?

I've only ever figured out the Necropolis.

4chan thinks my skeleton.gif contains an embedded file, fuck you too 4chan.

[Anonymous No.380208]

>>377571
As long as the mirror provided stays online it will be included. ( unless someone else is faster in thread making )
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.380219]

>>380208
All good, ive had files on that account for over 2 years, so should be fine to keep that link.

Wanted to share what i had found, as i know a few people here like Chronicles, and it's nice not to have to switch games, and have the entire storyline under one roof. The addition of things like the HD mod is just an added bonus.

Want to point out not all acripted events work properly as most of these scenarios are rebuilds, so some monsters will run if you possess a stronger force, even if they were scripted to stand and fight no matter what.

[Anonymous No.381835]

bump

[Anonymous No.383548]

I'm playing on this map:
>>374960
On impossible.

Somehow I killed 3 dozen dragons and lost only 20 knolls (i'd include a relevant picture, but moot is now retarded), but now the next fight is over 2000 minotaur kings? What the fuck can I do about that?

[Anonymous No.383680]

>>383548
mass slow, lure them down or up, mass berserk

[Anonymous No.383971]

>>383548
You mean the ones standing next to the second Redwood Observatory? "Guarding a shiny object..."? They're kind of an optional fight. I suggest you kill them after you've been to the Underground treasury (you get some free units on the way there). I don't remember them being a problem. Just use Mass Slow (you get Earth Magic for free on your main after all and Slow is guaranteed to be in your starting town). You can even get Prayer from Loynis right before that fight (after freeing him from prison) and you have Blind in your main town too... really, there's lots of ways to do it, actually.

[Anonymous No.384387]

Who Dragon Slayer here?

[Anonymous No.385045]

>>384387

Fuck, I'm just about to start that one. Left it to last. I really don't want to fight 5 million fucking nagas though.

[Anonymous No.385050]

>>385045

Though after playing with fire I've had enough of fucking swamps for a lifetime.

[Anonymous No.385081]

>>370664

Do fucking want.

That basilisk pit in particular looks awesoome.

[Anonymous No.385092]

[Anonymous No.385103]

[Anonymous No.385113]

>>385045
those Nagas are the least of your problems as there is a fairly simple trick to them

the last level is surprisingly easy. The time limit should have been tighter.

[Anonymous No.385134]

>>385113

The fairy dragons is the one that I really remember from the last time I played this (many many years ago). Barely remember anything about the others but that one just pissed me right the hell off to no end.

[Anonymous No.385173]

[Anonymous No.385190]

>>385134
the rust dragon level bothered me most, especially because you weren't alone. It was a bitch to travel back and forth, with Dracon being the only one who could get shit done

[Anonymous No.385330]

>>385173

>Expert luck and leadership
>Dem peasants

[Anonymous No.385469]

>>383971
Yeah that one. Took a while because they'd gone up to 4000 by the time I'd finished off the underground, killed them in the end though it took most of my units.

I'm glad I got the lion's shield of courage from it, though now I'm scared to go out as I see all these heroes with 50 attack and stupid things like that, running around.

[Anonymous No.385605]

>>380206
Just dont take the slowest beefy unit and youll be fine for all factions

[Anonymous No.385717]

>>383680
You don't get berserk on that map due to using Fortress.

On that map, use expert slow, and then keep blinding every stack until only one remains, then snipe those away with lizard warriors (due to the external dwellings you should have 200-300 of them, which can do serious damage), and when they get close destroy them with Hydras (no retaliation) and Mighty Gorgons (death stare). Do not send the rest of your troops in cause they don't have enough HP to survive.
After you killed the first stack, you may want to buff your troops with bless, prayer, maybe stone skin or bloodlust.

You also have 2 external Gorgon dwellings which you should harvest each week, because in big numbers those bulls are the evilest units in the game. They make it easy to clear the underground treasury too, since it's mainly guarded by dragons.

[Anonymous No.386681]

>>385717
haven't played that map, but if you have resurrection, you could abuse the ai by using a solo stack of hydras

[Anonymous No.386813]

ok, its official. thread is dead

[Anonymous No.386864]

>>386813

It's 4:49 am in Eastern Yurop, where this game is actually somewhat popular

[Anonymous No.387263]

>>386681
Talk about abusing the AI...

picture related.

>>385469
>I'm glad I got the lion's shield of courage from it, though now I'm scared to go out as I see all these heroes with 50 attack and stupid things like that, running around.
Don't be scared, just save the game before you open it.

It feels just so, so, so amazing to beat all of their armies, which have superior numbers and which (usually) come at you consecutively, one after another, every turn.

Perhaps it can be occasionally not winnable, if let's say, the worst stack happens to have Orb of Inhibition or something like that, but you can beat that too if it's the first or second you face (=when your army is at its best).

Once again, picture related. Before I engaged this guy, I killed the Red fucker's main (~25 Black Dragons + every other Dungeon unit maxed) - that was really easy - then the Green fucker's main (~32 Archangels + every other Castle unit maxed ) - that one cost me half of my Chaos Hydras and all of my (almost 100) Mighty Gorgons because I was careless about his hundreds of Crusaders. Of course, I engaged both of those on the field, like a man. And then, ironically, the biggest stack gets taken out with the cheapest units (took out my Hydras so they wouldn't die for nothing).

Then all that remained was the Orange guy, who split his army to attack me from both sides, I lol-killed the weaker stack in the open and dealt with the 80 Naga / 32 Titan stack in a similar fashion as the pictured battle.

It's really surprising how dumb the AI's preferences when it comes to spellcasting are. Both of them had Cure, Dispel AND Anti-Magic, but the former didn't use it at all, and the latter used it only once.

[Anonymous No.387342]

>>387263
And, really, once you survive all these fights with your main hero, it's nothing but a stroll through the countryside. I suggest you either get the Tower / Dungeon town (they pay the most due to them having Grail structures pre-built but are in a kind of shitty position) or the two Castle towns (because stacking Archangels +Marksmen +whatnot; and they're much easier to defend and you get free Stables every week).

And, before you conquer the Stronghold town, there is a bit of an optional fight - you probably noticed the Arena just north of your starting position in the Stronghold territory. Well, it's guarded by a random level 6 unit that starts out at 1000.

There's also 15 Azure Dragons in the 'Dragon Cave' between Erathia and Tatalia but the computer is occasionally able to kill them.

[Anonymous No.387720]

is wisdom even worth it?
those expert basic spells seem to be all that's needed

[Anonymous No.387732]

>>387720
Fly. Dimension Door. Town Portal. Town Portal especially, it's arguably one of the best spells in the game.

[Anonymous No.387763]

>>385045
The naga are a puzzle.

[Anonymous No.388561]

>>387732
they're banned though, and they're the only good spells at higher levels out of the other 18 shitty filler spells that you'll never get to cast.

[Anonymous No.388657]

I keep getting this shit out of wog games, it's infuriating, can't enjoy this clusterfuck of a mod

[Anonymous No.388691]

you have 10 seconds to name the effect of dispel with advanced water magic

>>388561

>air
>Counterstrike
>Summon Air Elemental

>earth
>Meteor Shower
>Resurrection
>Sorrow
>Summon Earth Elemental

>fire
>Armageddon
>Berserk
>Summon Fire Elemental

>water
>Water Walk (since fly is disabled)
>Clone
>Prayer
>Summon Water Elemental

[Anonymous No.388820]

>>336190

[Anonymous No.388943]

>>388691
>always get slayer instead of berserk
>always get hypnotize, earthquake, fireball or cold rings
>always end up with sacrifice or magic mirror after busting 30 resources of each type for a full mage guild

[Anonymous No.390035]

>>387263
Fortress. Even a LVL 1 hero can hold it well.

[Anonymous No.390182]

>>390035
Fortress has incredible defensive capabilities. All of their units except vywerns are tough and have decent specials/damage. And Gorgons are a nightmare of any high tier unit.

[Anonymous No.390241]

>>390182
I can't help but think how overpowered serpent/dragon flies are.

[Anonymous No.390557]

>>390241
They have a tendency to drop like flies though.

[Anonymous No.390619]

>>390182

I have a tendency to forget to not attack mighty gorgons with high level units.

It usually involves a very painful reminder of why I shouldn't do that.

[Anonymous No.390650]

>>387720
Perhaps it's not a priority to get Wisdom maxed, but Basic Wisdom offers you some nice level 3 spells:

Earth:
>Animate Dead, Anti-Magic, Earthquake
Water:
>Forgetfulness, Teleport

From level 4, if the travel spells are banned, there's still Resurrect (because I hate it when I'm cleaning up towns/armies that are clearly below me, but they still manage to get some of my favorite units down), Prayer, Berserk, Counterstrike.

And for level 5... well... Implosion.

It should be evident that it makes less sense to invest into Wisdom if you don't get higher Knowledge / Spellpower. If you're, say a Stronghold Might hero with 20 Mana and 3 Spellpower, you might be content with just casting Expert Slow / Expert Haste / Expert Bless.

[Bernkastel !!8eF6CGNIpsC No.390741]

I pirated homm3 long ago and updated it to version 4.0 with a patch available online

however, some of my friends have pirated the GoG version and it's version 4.1.

we can't play. does a version 4.1 patch exist?

[Anonymous No.390743]

>>390650
>Earthquake
no, just no
>Animate Dead
only if you are too poor to upgrade your vamp dwelling
air shield and force field are more interesting

[Anonymous No.390757]

>>390741

Pirate the Gog Version and transfer over your saves? Pretty easy. And the Gog versions not very big.

[Bernkastel !!8eF6CGNIpsC No.390769]

>>390757
I really don't want to download it all over again but if that's the only one alternative then I guess it can't be helped

[Anonymous No.390773]

>>390743
Animate dead has its uses. At expert earth magic it permanently brings your undead back. And enemies fucking love harassing my liches.

[Anonymous No.390786]

>>387263
I think I'm finally ready to venture forth.

[Anonymous No.390829]

>>390769
you dont want to download 800mbs?

>>390786
>use loyris instead of tazar
>place slow moving melees in the corners
good luck

[Bernkastel !!8eF6CGNIpsC No.390838]

>>390829
yeah it's kind of big for my caveman 3rd world internet

[Anonymous No.390850]

>>390838
third world countries usually have high speed internet cafes
yeah, you have to get up and go outside
anyway search google for boerse dot bz and gog if you have decided not to buy it

[Anonymous No.390860]

>>390743
Earthquake is sometimes necessary for factions who lack good ranged units and good fliers (Stronghold, in example). At Expert Earth Magic it should be able to take down the part of the wall that was hit by your catapult on the first turn.

[Anonymous No.390934]

>>390829
I rearranged the units but I've still got problems.

There's this guy, some guy with 147 black dragons who keeps casting air elemental a hundred times, and one hero with 97 titans and a bunch of tower units.

I don't have a solution to this, I just can't keep enough of my forces alive for rounds 2 and 3. If I can get through these 3 mostly in tact then I've basically won the game.

I don't know what to do, they're just too fast and the first round spell makes all the difference.
I've another level 23 hero with armorer specialty and tons of defense but he's not nearly as good with spells.

[Anonymous No.390989]

>>390934
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?td6ed57tmpm66mk

My saved game, if anybody wants to have a look or a crack at it and show me that this shit isn't impossible.

[Anonymous No.391106]

>>390934
i dont really get, but why would you wait 8 months?
and why only this small number of troups by then?
you have at least 3 times as many hydras and 6 times more wyperns, especially with tazar leading them.
anyway, take a look at the map editor, they simply outproduce you why you wait.

[Anonymous No.391121]

>>391106
i see, no money

[Anonymous No.391136]

>>391106
Because I didn't know that might gorgons were any good until >>387263 and >>385717
mentioned they where good so then I had to sit around and wait for money to get some.

Problem was, not all of my fights were going well and I've lost probably 60+ or so hydras and other stuff by this point just to random mobs.

I don't know which units are best, I don't know how to properly minimize my losses against shit like black dragons and I don't have enough money to simply just buy everything.

That's kind of been my problem with HOMM games in general since they first came out.

[Anonymous No.391189]

>>332756
I don't like the fact that it replaces entire armies from HoMM 3 with single units. Other than tthat it's pretty fun though, and the graphics are amazing.

[Anonymous No.391194]

l i t t l e m o n e y

[Anonymous No.391202]

>>391136
always have a second hero traveling behind the main, so if you have fight the dragons you would let that hero have all the low tier stacks.
maybe leaving some single stacks of dragon flies behind to trigger retaliation.
the best unit against any tier 7 is the mighty gorgon and hydras cause an ai bug (if you stand next to an ally dragon, the one with the initiative wont attack you)
so using mighty gorgons, hydras and dragon flies in 6 stacks to avoid the breath attack would likely reduce your losts
just an opinion of a third rated player
and its true that the devs made poor job with explaining things, the tutorial is a joke, the campaign (especially sod) requires experience
i lost and learned a lot in hotseats and matches with random people in internet cafes

[Anonymous No.391213]

>>391194
1.3

[Anonymous No.391234]

>>391202
How about lizardmen warriors?
Worth investing in?

Also, the only things I've ever learned about the homm games are roughly as follows:
Armageddon and fire immune units makes for easy fights
Vampire lords + steelskin is by far the easiest way to proceed as necro until your skeletons reach critical mass
The AI just fucking loves attacking liches above all else
Castle town units in homm2 are fun to play, though I can't really say the same about homm3

....and that's about it. I've never really had any human opponents to play with, so all I've ever learned is stuff I've found by accident or what the computer has taught me.

[Anonymous No.391252]

So what does everyone think of HoMM V and VI?

[Anonymous No.391260]

>>391234
of course, they are your only shooters
just not against black dragons because they move first and will go for your lizardmen
and using tactics to block attackers from your shooter would not work against dragons

[Anonymous No.391326]

>>390934
Holy jesus.

>124 Angels
Probably the gist of the problem is that you waited out some week(s) gathering your army. That is one of the worst things you can do on impossible (doesn't matter what kind of map it is) because they will always get more units than you.

I find that the key to beating A.I.s on impossible is to get a good hero for your main stack - and once he's reasonably prepared and there's no more experience left to get without entering the enemy's territory, well, then you have to attack them with what you have.

A lot of the maps are literally impossible on the highest difficulty (especially the one's with 8 enemy factions where you always have to deal with at least 3 huge stacks at a time). If you want to win a normal scenario on impossible, your best best is to play the (Allied) version.

>have 0 gold
>ally sends me 42k
>he would appreciate some Mercury

So TL;DR - you cannot stagnate on Impossible maps.

[Anonymous No.391348]

>>390989
Man, they even cleared the ~3000 level 6 units near the Stronghold's arena...

I always try to finish as soon as possible so in Month 4 (5 at worst) their main stacks are all dead and I just rape and pillage. Maybe it's just because of my natural inclination to end the game ASAP to get the highest possible score.

[Anonymous No.391378]

>>391194
typical custom map gold amounts

[Anonymous No.391417]

>>391378
Remember, no English.

[Anonymous No.391482]

>>391378
Let me guess, Chinese map?

[Anonymous No.391545]

>>391482
I'm not sure, but it's this map. So far everything has been in english, just somewhat poor at times.

http://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=893&game=3

[Anonymous No.391546]

>>388943

same. just started playing a month ago or so, ive been playing through RoE campaigns and i have yet to try out town portal/something similar because every time i upgrade my mage guild i end up with useless high level spells (slayer, sacrifice, etc). i got town portal ONCE on that mission where you have to raise 2500 skeletons but its a small map and by the time i got it i had already steamrolled everything.

i just want to experience the broken overoweredness of town portal ;_;

[Anonymous No.391653]

>>391546

Random map.

>>391252

I like V except for the adventure map camera. Never played VI, probably won't until they release a DRM-free complete version. And even then I might not. Lack of random map generator is a big turn off.

[Anonymous No.392004]

>>391653

random map?

[Anonymous No.392013]

>>392004

Start a new scenario and choose random map. They're great for getting and abusing Town Portal.

[Anonymous No.392070]

>>392013

oh, yeah. during the campaigns are the spells you get still random from your mage guild? or is it predetermined by the particular scenario?

[Anonymous No.392089]

>>392070

Still random, but with random maps you can just make a big map and do whatever you want without having to worry about campaign objectives.

[Anonymous No.392117]

Is there anything you would ever rather see?

[Anonymous No.392124]

>>392117

Yeah, Logistics at the START of a map.

[Anonymous No.392186]

The grail is hidden in here somewhere. Every enemy unit is ~4000 troops.

Sadly, this chess board is the only really unique thing so far in this map.

[Anonymous No.392187]

>>392070
Its random, but some spells are banned. I think Dimension Door is banned for Dungeons and Devils for instance.

[Anonymous No.392195]

>>392187

ah ok. some of these missions would have been so much easier with town portal. i just finished the last necromancer map, not very difficult overall, but at the end his best hero ran in and snagged one of my main 3 bases, and my stronger heroes were halfway across the map (ended up just stocking up for 2 weeks locally to take him down while my other heroes took the rest of his undefended towns)

[Anonymous No.392364]

>>392186

Hurts my eyes.

[Anonymous No.392475]

>>392186
>only really unique thing so far in this map.
>3/4 of the map uncovered

Riiight.

Actually I think I recall that map - if I recall right, there should be quite a lot of other nasty surprises.

[Anonymous No.392486]

>>392186

I think I remember it, there was a long underground water tunnel labyrinth that you had to take to get to the area right?

[Anonymous No.392498]

Does anyone know the exact mechanics for Thant's animate dead specialization / Jeddite's Resurrect specialization?

Like whether it's a static +number on level 1, smaller number on level 2.... no number on level 6/7 (that's how Loynis' Prayer specialization works, FYI).

[Anonymous No.392512]

>>392117
>>392124
Estates witch hut right next to your starting town with 3 learning stones nearby and a free tree of level up near your starter town.

>>392186
Are you not playing on impossible? And jesus christ, 11 months to get to that point? Really?

[Anonymous No.392524]

YES, I KNOW FUCKING DRACON CAN GAIN NO MORE EXPERIENCE IN THIS SCENARIO!

[Anonymous No.392558]

>>392524

the most annoying scenario ever, dracon never gets logistics, all scenarios are timed, no heroes or artifacts carry over, have to do a side quest to get town portal/dimension door scroll, the last scenario leaves you with no mana what so ever due to constant hostile dragon encounters, diplomacy is useless. You also need all the magic skills you can get, while being useless against dragons.

fucking nightmare fuel

[Anonymous No.392658]

>>392558

Not sure what you mean about town portal, I got it on the first map (well, I hit restart until I got TP and resurrection.)

But it's dreadful anyway. I just finished Rust Dragons which was actually quite fun, but now I'm on Fairy Dragons and it's easily the worst map in the game. You need to know EXACTLY where to go, so unless you're really lucky, you'll never beat it on your first try.
Crystal Dragons sets a max level of 8, but starts you off with a massive army so that you hit the limit after 2 battles.

[Anonymous No.392737]

>>392512
The map itself suggests impossible yet the game still showers you with resources. That one million gold picture was from that map. I also have 18 towns and 8 gold artifacts. Most of the time i actually just waited weeks away to get more troops for me and the AI, because i love huge battles. One AI player now has 16k+ Master Gremlins.

[Anonymous No.392738]

>>392658
>I got it on the first map

If you got it from the spellbooks books then it gets taken away

[Anonymous No.392784]

3 thunderbirds, 2 cyclops kings or 1 ancient behemoth, which is more useful?

I'm thinking the behemoth to use as a damage sponge but I dunno.

[Anonymous No.392803]

>>392784

i would go with the 'clops kings. i'm assuming this is for a starting bonus, and having some high level shooters to start the map with will make neutral stacks super easy

[Anonymous No.392820]

>>392803
Yeah, it's for one of the first scenarios but honestly I don't know shit about stronghold or which of their units are good.

[Anonymous No.392829]

>>392013
I -think- the Rampart mage guild is most likely to have town portal, I always get TP and other earthy spells when I'm playing those elvish hippies.

[Anonymous No.392842]

>>392829

Can't say I've noticed that. Tower is good though, since you get an extra shot at getting TP.

[Anonymous No.392852]

>>392820
I'd go with Ancient Behemot - that thing is seriously underrated, and hits like a truck. Like you said - it can act as a damage sponge, and deliver quite a lot of pain.

[Anonymous No.392878]

>>392820

i found stronghold pretty easy to play, if your talking about the spoils of war scenarios all of them are a piece of cake.

goblin - standard tier 1 cannon fodder
wolf riders - fast but squishy, upgrade to get the double attack but make sure they always get the first hit
orc - standard shooter but kinda shitty
ogres - solid, can take and dish out a beating, ogre magi can cast bloodlust so worth upgrading IMO
roc - thunderbirds are great
cyclops - nice high level shooters, but the dwelling costs 20 crystal
behemoth - biggest advantage is you can easily get them in week 1 (another reason why its not worth starting with them)

[Anonymous No.392912]

>try WOG
>trace error exception ctd in the middle every game
>black screens in the middle of battle
>most relevant forum post is 4 years old and most links are dead

[Anonymous No.392923]

>>392912

>wanting to play some shit fanmade mod with monsters that look like they were made up by a bunch of 8 year olds
>SUPER ULTRA BLACK GHOST BEHEMOTH MONSTER XD

[Anonymous No.392930]

>>392738

No, you start with a town with a level 5 mage guild. Just restart the map until you get the spells you want, TP is available.

[Anonymous No.392945]

Well, that was fun. Can't wait for the next stack.

[Anonymous No.392943]

>>392658
>>392558
>people actually had a hard time doing Dracon's quests

Feels good to not be completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.393003]

>>392945

next stack is fairy dragons

have fun being raped

[Anonymous No.393058]

>>393003

Did that with no losses.

Berserk to get rid of most of them, then on the final stack blind + resurrection over and over and over ... Good thing I have 720 spell points.

Only reason I lost those Gargoyles and Golems was because Resurrect doesn't work on them.

[Anonymous No.393082]

>>392878
>not worth starting with an ancient behemoth
are you even serious?

[Anonymous No.393187]

behemoth if you want to bypass every neutral with minimal losses and get a resource advantage

ogre/orc/cyclop if you actually want week 2 siege and take over enemy towns

just kidding, cyclops suck other than breaking walls, their damage is abysmal for something with so little population

[Anonymous No.393213]

>>393058

oh wait, I forgot Fairy Dragons aren't immune to magic

[Anonymous No.393275]

>>393213

They have a magic mirror, but that seems to only affect direct damage spells

[Anonymous No.393365]

>>334381
can also use them for SKELETONS

[Anonymous No.393614]

>>392912
Get ERA+WoG instead.

>>392923
You're literally retarded. You know you can disable that and enable good things like, you know, nerf Phoenix growth, combine Ballists+Artillery+First Aid, rebalanced Hero specialities, and some other things

[Anonymous No.393641]

>>393082

id rather start with some shooters than a single level 7 creature, unless i desperately need the mobility.

[Anonymous No.393674]

Trying something different. The enemy naga queens up top are blocking the way for the rest, and are killing about 1 of mine a turn. In the meantime, I cast berserk and shoot the others, renewing the forcefield in the bottom every few turns.

Never thought an enemy's no retaliation would come in handy.

[Anonymous No.393698]

>>393674
People underrated the usefulness of Force Field and Fire Wall. They really make some "impossible" fights possible

[Anonymous No.393756]

>>393698
Fire Wall - not so much, but can work in some setups. Fore field is balls though, especially in long fights.

[Anonymous No.394194]

>>393698
Too bad they only last two turns no matter what.

[Anonymous No.394943]

>>393187
They can't reproduce very fast since all their women are extinct so they have to resort to cloning - which is a very costly operation (the cloning machinery requires a lot of minerals, especially crystals) and it's slow. Only a handful can be cloned per week.

[Anonymous No.395093]

Fucking hell. I'm playing this Lord of war map and can't board the ship at the beginning of the labyrinth because it spawned at the wrong place.

[Anonymous No.395223]

Thank fuck that's over. Now back to the fun stuff.

[Anonymous No.395348]

>>395223
>1550 score
>getting shitty wyvern instead of Archangel
I thought anything above 400 was Archangel

[Anonymous No.395395]

>>395348

That's scenarios, not campaigns, they work differently.

[Anonymous No.395489]

>>393674

Split them genies up man. Free buffs is always nice. Those Nagas will far more fun with prayer, haste, bloodlust, frenzy, shield and stone skin.

[Anonymous No.395590]

>>395489
>frenzy

Yeah they'll be far more fun until they get hit once.

Much less fun after that.

[Anonymous No.396361]

someone had a problem with that map a while ago, just a proof that its enjoyable on impossible

>first week:
>reroll until you have a few lizard warriors, clear the first mines
>by more lizard warriors, clear the bonus area
>rush for wypern nest

>second week:
>buy upgraded wypern
>capture the second town
>build city hall and the other dwellings but tier 7

>third and forth week:
>clear the underground area
>build hydra pond and capitol

>month 2 and 3
>capture enemy towns

also congratulations to the modder, very nice flow (until everyone had town portal)

[Anonymous No.396386]

>>396361

Isn't that the map in the RoE campaign?

[Anonymous No.396427]

>>396386

see:
>>374960

[Anonymous No.396486]

>>396361
I felt the player area desperately needed a windmill and/or a water wheel for optional gold gathering if the player was completely desperate, but maybe I'm just crazy.

[Anonymous No.396556]

>>396486
no you are not, clearing every single mob for treasure chest is forced on the map
i couldnt effort all the wyperns in week 2

[Anonymous No.396584]

Oh god why is the Dragon Slayer campaign so hard?

[Anonymous No.398070]

>>334274

Typical Eador random event. Protip: choosing either of the top two options will result in your empire being torn apart by bad karma. Third option probably would to.

[Anonymous No.398670]

did they ever release an english version for horn of the abyss? that pirate town looks pretty neat if I can get it the moonrunes translated

[Anonymous No.399757]

>>396584

Because it's retarded. Just bear through it. Also, I thought Rust Dragons was fun, Azure Dragons is OK, but the other two ... you really need to know exactly what you're doing and where you're going, so unless you're lucky, you'll probably have to restart Fairy Dragons more than once.

[Girl Gamer and Proud No.400173]

>>399757
Don't say the r-word pls

[Anonymous No.400316]

>>400173

restart?

[Anonymous No.400428]

I vaguely remember that there's a holy grail (or an artifact with massive stats) on every single map and that the position is never random (Maybe just Homm2, might be Homm3 too?).

Is there a recorded list anywhere showing the position of it on every map?

[Anonymous No.400447]

>>395093

there's a spell for that

alternatively you can fix it with the map editor

[Anonymous No.400474]

>>400428

For 3, the grail is only on maps where it's been placed. It's far from every map.

[Anonymous No.400513]

>>400474
And on every map there are obelisks, in which case the position is random.

[Anonymous No.400562]

>>400474
>>400513
I've only ever tried on on 2, but I'm about 90% sure it's not random as the few maps I tried it on (including that one second to last scenario mission for the crown with both sides) it wasn't random at all and I was able to just dig up the spot I remembered it being on from doing the obelisks in a previous game.

[Anonymous No.400617]

>>400562

When creating a map, you can choose to place a grail or not. And the grail item can also be given a random radius to appear in. So some possible combinations are:

a) Map designer placed obelisks but no grail, in which case the grail is placed randomly somewhere on the map (if you're designing a map this way, you really need to make sure every area on the map is accessible and, for fairness, that the obelisks really are all over the map because the grail might appear right outside someone's starting town)

b) You have obelisks and a specific grail location, which will be the same every time the map is played (which is a bad idea since players who have already played the map and know where the grail is won't need to visit the obelisks.)

c) Obelisks and a grail location with a random radius, big enough that someone would need to have a dedicated hero digging for months even if they knew approximately where it is.

d) A grail (with a specific location) and no obelisks, which might work if you have other hints at the location, e.g. signs or event texts.


So, for the scenario you're describing, it's quite probable that the grail was set to appear in a certain location or area, and therefore when you replayed the map it was in the same, or a very close, location as the previous time.

[Anonymous No.401032]

How often do you guys typically manage to put together a combination artifact?

I always seem to be missing one piece of the set or whatever, so I've only ever managed two sets before; Armor of the Damned and Wizard's Well.
I almost managed the Angelic Alliance once but the amulet didn't spawn, so much for that.

[Anonymous No.401394]

The writing in this campaign is amazing! I'm constantly cracking up.

I guess it's especially noticeable because the writing (and voice action) in the rest of the AB campaigns is so dreadful.

[Anonymous No.401459]

>>401032
I get Elixir of Life on almost every random XL map i play. I've only gotten Angelic Allience once on a random map. I got Power of the Dragon Father more often than it and that one requires more artifacts.

[Anonymous No.401854]

Okay, how the fuck do I beat Foolhardy Waywardness?

[Anonymous No.401892]

>>401032
I once managed to get the Angelic Alliance and once Bow of the Sharpshooter from random artifacts.

Getting the former almost felt like cheating. The second is really nice too though - especially when you got a huge stack of ranged troops and are fighting mostly melee units (preferably without hero, but with hero is fine too) who block your ranged troops in the corner - you blind the melee troops surrounding the stack - and use them as a much, much longer lasting wall (if you have good spell power) whilst firing at everything else, and killing them last. The artifact allows you to shoot even if you're in melee range of another unit, fyi.

[Anonymous No.402438]

>>388657
Use ERA. It has WoG as a mod, and I don't remember it crashing once.

If the DL speed is shit, try the torrent. Also inviting everyone to help seeding it.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8440609/h3_era_2.4.torrent

[Anonymous No.402468]

>>398670
>russians in charge of letting глупые иностранцы play their games

[Anonymous No.403982]

dead thread

dead game

[Anonymous !JohnsonY5g No.404119]

>>403982
lel

[Anonymous No.404542]

Walking Dead is the best.

[Anonymous No.404634]

>>404542
Slowing your armies all day erry day

[Anonymous No.404695]

>>404634

Yo, Bone Dragons, Vampires, wait up! We gotta wait for the guys shuffling along in the back.

[Anonymous No.405447]

>>404634
But they got a lot better in the third season.

[Anonymous No.405567]

>>405447

[Anonymous No.405746]

>>390743

Earth magic with animate dead allow Thant to fucking snowball the vampires like crazy

I can play weeks without losing 1 unit. Completely fucks up the balance, really.

[Anonymous No.405778]

>>391326

I won soem Realm of Chaos FFA with Rampart. It is fucking hard and it necessitate a bit of luck, but it can be done.

Also, i had Mephala (Female Tazar) with rushed dendroids so it certainly helped alot.

[Anonymous No.405825]

>>398670

is that fucking House as a pirate ?

[Anonymous No.405982]

>>405825

Haha I didn't even pick up on that, that's awesome.

[Anonymous No.406280]

>>404542
Are they still on Hershel's farm?

[Anonymous No.409774]

>>406280
Physically? No. But mentally, yes.

[Anonymous No.409835]

>>401032

in my experience, you're far more likely to find one on a shipwreck survivor. although I have made a few by finding most of the pieces and buying stuff from black market/artifact merchants

[Anonymous No.411194]

Bump before it dies.

[Anonymous No.411247]

Has anyone ever been so far as to win the Adventures of Jared Haret on Impossible?

[Anonymous No.412692]

Dead thread

[Anonymous No.412805]

>>411247
No one in the history of mankind has ever manged that.

[Anonymous No.414034]

>>412805
you got to give it a try

[Anonymous No.414115]

>>414034
?

But conquering the first town is not hard. Everyone can do that. The problem is that once you go to surface, you have to fight two overpopulated towns you just cannot hope to match.

[Anonymous No.414640]

>>411247
I did.
It's not too hard, you just have to rush.

[Anonymous No.414771]

>>414115
let me be first then
i quick combat the last battles so might have more troups eventually

[Anonymous No.414805]

>>414771
also auto combat

[Anonymous No.414819]

>>414805
and winrar

[Anonymous No.415753]

>>414819
Weird. Why is your score so low when you finished so fast?

[Anonymous No.418723]

Do you guys use filtering?
I think it looks fucking awful with filtering.

[Anonymous No.419285]

Is there any way to make the quick stack splitting feature from the hd mod work with wog? I know It's disabled because it interferes with the creature experience feature, but as long as I'm not using that shouldn't there be a way to make it work?

[Anonymous No.419721]

>>401394
no kidding, I had to cheat through 3 of the AB campaigns because I seriously' couldn't be arsed to complete those dreadful campaigns.

[Anonymous No.419747]

>play Gorlam's Tentacle Swampland
>no innuendos
so disappointed

[Anonymous No.420286]

>>414819
That's a baller dragon.

[Anonymous No.420336]

>>418723
How?

[Anonymous No.420893]

>>415753
only 2 towns, you need 13+ for 448
digging the grail gives another 50

[Anonymous No.421482]

>>420336
Everything looks blurry.

[Anonymous No.421510]

>>421482

That's just the screenshots.

[Anonymous No.421525]

>>421510
Actually ingame I quite have a hard time reading the map names with the filter on as the letters look really blurred.

[Anonymous No.422043]

don mind me

testing some shit

87gyuh
666hj&&&&&&&&666hj&&&&&&&&666hj&&&&&&&&666hj&&&&&&&&
56hju

[Anonymous No.422078]

>>422076
>>422076

[Anonymous No.422184]

>>420893
So you skipped the second Dungeon town and skipped the Tower/Castle town?