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/scg/ - Sound Chips General Anonymous Sat Jun 18 15:56:22 2016 No.3300072 [Reply] [Original]

Do you prefer the electro-metallic feel of FM or the more realistic samples of PCM, /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 15:57:55 2016 No.3300079 I swear to fucking god, if this is a genesis vs snes thread in disguise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 16:06:33 2016 No.3300101 >>3300079 It has to be, considering there are other types of sound than just the two methods that those two consoles just happen to be known for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 16:51:22 2016 No.3300185 >>3300072 I prefer paula: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SlyK_elUmIw&feature=youtu.be

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 17:00:52 2016 No.3300198 >>3300072 PSG master race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ckfd7F3Hg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 18:11:09 2016 No.3300321 >>3300198 That track really doesn't do the SID justice, this does though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEUJd8iQiOE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 18:20:11 2016 No.3300329 File: 29 KB, 321x400, simon-belmont.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've always had a soft spot for MIDI shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdxZjRZAzKI

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 18:27:44 2016 No.3300335 >>3300321 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCZICbuTRco Try this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 18:43:31 2016 No.3300358 I pick.... both. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJG7KYB23bM VRC6 is also good. FM is still my favorite though. >tfw shimoine's cover songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQOjJPYeXU&t=16m5s Auuugh my dick... How does he DEW it?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 18:57:27 2016 No.3300382 What are some 90s RPGs with nice MIDI music? Like Daggerfall and such.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 18 19:58:53 2016 No.3300558 I like Wavetable

Anonymous Sat Jun 18 23:24:20 2016 No.3300997

>>3300382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhZt8sYnbM

Make sure you enable Roland in the sound configuration; which is a separate executable from the main game. I'm usually more of an FM fan, but American composers never got the hang of it, and midi almost always sounds better in American games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 18:31:30 2016 No.3302957 >>3300072 Why not both? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuH4pZ5Yew

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 18:33:11 2016 No.3302961 >>3302957 this https://vgmrips.net/packs/vgm/Arcade/Battle_Garegga_%28Toaplan_2%29/06%20Fly%20to%20the%20Leaden%20Sky%20%5BStage%201%20Valley%5D.mp3

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 18:35:49 2016 No.3302968 >>3302961 a lot of sega games do it too https://vgmrips.net/packs/vgm/Arcade/Turbo_Out_Run_%28Arcade%29/06%20Keep%20Your%20Heart.mp3

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 18:49:48 2016 No.3303004 >>3302957 NG is like 99.99% sample. only very early games use a sizable amount of FM/PSG, and later games only use PSG for insert coin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 20:12:21 2016 No.3303215 https://youtu.be/wnM-CI_CFbI?t=122

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 19 22:40:59 2016 No.3303531 a sound chip thread that isn't shitposting? I like this alot. On topic: I do like me some good FM tunes like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw C-64's SID, SNES' S-SMP, and the NES' sound systems were pretty good as well.

Anonymous Sun Jun 19 22:51:53 2016 No.3303542

>>3300382
Why not try some Falcom music from the late-'90s?

Brandish VT SC-55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZlnBc6KPI8
Legend of Heroes IV SC-55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW36KDFQMIE
Ys Eternal GS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YHIOIT2GIw
Ys Eternal SC-88: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiqZwS-rQyA
Monarch Monarch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QI8vQZsi8
Vantage Master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWLPPcHwhqM
Mona Mona unused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fynbeSGm46c
Ys II Eternal SC-88Pro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrG3ZdpDpsU

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 00:22:22 2016 No.3303705 >>3300185 >paula >not pcm

Anonymous Mon Jun 20 01:15:26 2016 No.3303837
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FM > PSG > Wavetable > PCM

If I wanna listen to real instruments, I'll go put on some Bach, not a videogame.

Retro games should have their unique sound, rather than try to sound "realistic".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 01:27:07 2016 No.3303867 >>3303837 this 2bh famicom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-wYBJiqc_Y

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 01:36:21 2016 No.3303884 File: 217 KB, 1920x1080, rondo-of-blood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Underrated wavetable song passing by. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-DaAkrhoiM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 05:10:57 2016 No.3304205 Darklight Conflict and Colony Wars on PSX

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 12:47:49 2016 No.3304906 >>3303867 best part of this port was the re-arranged music

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 13:09:52 2016 No.3304934 >>3303837 >Wavetable > PCM Do you mean sample based synth against actuall full recordings of songs? Because wavetable synth = pcm synth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 14:52:20 2016 No.3305138 >>3304934 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_chip#Wavetable-lookup_synthesis_.28.22wavetable.22.29

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 16:09:17 2016 No.3305331 >>3305138 the namco one is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZldqMLg9kkM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 16:10:22 2016 No.3305336 >>3305331 skip to 19:13 for the best usage of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 17:49:34 2016 No.3305586 File: 44 KB, 389x388, 1414670243900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEDEGeRlcg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 17:59:04 2016 No.3305609 >>3305586 >Great Moments in FM Synthesis uh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 20 18:01:38 2016 No.3305617 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seFFNwP8NsI I always thought this one captured the movie's sound really well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 02:14:52 2016 No.3306551 VRC6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlu786vcgKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHFqnxUtITk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 02:26:12 2016 No.3306561 >>3306551 >VRC6 >not VRC7 ya blew it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvvWtVVfr3g

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 03:12:42 2016 No.3306640 >>3306561 >VRC7 >Implying it's not the weakest FM chip ever > 1 custom patch at a time kek That version isn't any better than the original version anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 03:21:46 2016 No.3306650 >>3306640 yeah, it's a pretty shit chip, but still was the best music that came out of the nes, along with sunsoft's chip

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 03:51:54 2016 No.3306689 >>3306650 there are like 2 songs that anyone even remembers from lagrange point. and the sunsoft chip itself was crap and the worst expansion chip in terms of sound. in terms of the music made on it the vrc6 wins and it's not even close.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 04:18:48 2016 No.3306741 >>3305609 ¿

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 12:26:28 2016 No.3307256 >>3306741 just a really autistic name I mean, "great moments in fm synthesis"?

Anonymous Tue Jun 21 12:33:36 2016 No.3307269

>>3307256
I think it's just a series of videos that guy uploaded with his favorite FM synthesis tracks.

It's probably more autistic to complain about it Anon, but then again if we're in a mandarin darpa board exchanging notes on ancient bleep bloops who are we really to pass judgement on autismal traits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 12:45:34 2016 No.3307301 >>3307269 well he picked some shitty "fm synth moments"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 13:41:23 2016 No.3307440 >>3300329 MIDI can be either wavetable or FM synthesis though, it's only a format to pass notes and other shit around to the synth. Example: Adlib is FM synth, but later PC sound cards used wavetable for MIDI.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 13:49:13 2016 No.3307470 >>3305138 ... so it's basically PCM synth except that it stores shorter samples and uses them in lieu of FM waveforms?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 13:52:10 2016 No.3307482 Here's what good sounding FM synth means to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDudAahpoGA

Anonymous Tue Jun 21 14:39:03 2016 No.3307579

>>3306689
I prefer the VRC6 too, but c'mon, Lagrange Point's got a bunch of good (and great) compositions.

>>3307301
>late-'80s SEGA FM-synth music
>shitty
Hayashi's only amateurish soundtrack from that period IIRC was Sonic Boom, which has a cool Stage 3/5 theme: https://vgmrips.net/packs/pack/sonic-boom-sega-system-16b

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 15:27:39 2016 No.3307684 >>3307482 Fixed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1urEBm4Js4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 15:46:14 2016 No.3307743 >>3300198 Personally, I'm a bleep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRsTxfyZuQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 21 15:51:11 2016 No.3307760 >>3307579 Maybe not shitty, but not good enough to call them great moments in FM synth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 22 00:55:07 2016 No.3308762 File: 116 KB, 500x578, monster-world2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gotta love the Monster World series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecr8TPvVOkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SJUE_X3F38

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