E3

[Anonymous No.3291813]

>tfw E3 is happening and I'm not even aware of it anymore.

I remember when I used to get hyped for it every year. What was your favorite reto E3/CES year/moment?

[Anonymous No.3291815]

>>3291813
I forgot that thing even existed.
meh

[Anonymous No.3291820]

>>3291813

and some general highlights

E3

1995 - Playstation, Virtual Boy, Neo Geo CD
1996 - Nintendo 64, various games for other system
1997 - Half-life beta, various games for other systems
1999 - Half-Life final, Ocarina of Time, Duke Nukem forever
2000 - Playstation 2, etc etc non-retro

[Anonymous No.3291826]

>>3291813
and some general highlights

E3

1995 - Playstation, Virtual Boy, Neo Geo CD
1996 - Nintendo 64, various games for other system
1997 - Half-life beta, various games for other systems
1998 - Half-Life final, Ocarina of Time, Duke Nukem forever
1999 - Dreamcast
2000 - Playstation 2, etc etc non-retro

[Anonymous No.3291828]

>>3291813
>>3291815
It was pretty shit this year.

E3 used to be a really magical time, back when most of your gaming news was from Magazines.

The E3 issues were always the best. Chock full of new announcements. New consoles, awesome new games, etc.

Now it's just even more obvious it's all literally just a show to get people hyped.

I watched the Sony press conference, and they're all wowed and in awe when The Last of Us God of War was announced with the orchestra in the back.

It just goes to show you that people are so easily swayed.

We also live in a time when you can announce a new game literally whenever you want and generate hype and buzz, so it's almost counter intuitive to even bother with E3 because your shit will probably get lost in the tsunami of shit.

[Anonymous No.3291845]

>>3291828
Maybe its just me but E3 feels now like a huge marketing campaign pandering to the lowest common denominator.
It feels like companies know that people like the idea of new games or new sequels to games,they like the idea of video games but they dont actually play them or want to play them.
That we see huge rise in twitch and gaming channel on youtube and this reflects to the quality of games.
More and more we see walking simulators with two or three QTE and thats it OMG 11/10 by everyone.
I just want to play games im so fucking sick of labels"muh gaming culture",kids and people that dont actually play games and yet shitpost about them and tell me that my taste is shit.

[Anonymous No.3291856]

>>3291845

People were excited for David Cage's latest scripted movie game where you play as a literal emotionless Android hostage negotiator.

E3 definitely panders to the casual. Every "game journalist" for a place like IGN, or Gamespot, or whatever is a huge fucking casual, and that's a huge problem, because they give so many games a free pass for being "entertaining" but not "games".

Until Dawn was universally praised. It was a terrible "game" but it was alright as an experience. It honestly would've been better as a movie, since the "gameplay" was QTE's and literal walking for like 3-4 hours total of the 5 hour runtime.

[Anonymous No.3291885]

>>3291826
You're missing the official "small E3" of 1996 (or was it 1997?).

[Anonymous No.3291891]

>>3291885
Looked it up. It was on January 30 to February 5, 1997 at the Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza (now Hilton) in Nuremberg, Germany.

Exhibitors were
-Bandai
-Codemasters
-Cryo
-Electronic Arts
-GT Interactive
-Guillemot
-Infogrames
-Telstar
-THQ
-Sierra
-Ubisoft
-Konami

[Anonymous No.3292194]

>>3291828
>It was pretty shit this year.
Was it ever. The only game shown that looked like a 'game' was Spiderman, jesus. I'm not totally against the trend of cinematic games but everyone is now trying to be the next last of us, like that terrible looking god of war reboot.

E3 '97 because the first gaming magazine I had subscribed to came in the mail. I poured over that issue so much.

[Anonymous No.3292204]

the one where resident evil for game boy color was announced. 99 i think. such good times...

[Anonymous No.3292206]

This was the worst E3 ever. Makes me love retro games more.

[Anonymous No.3292207]

>>3291813
My favourite E3 moments were from attending it from 2002-2004 so I can't discuss them here.

[Anonymous No.3292212]

>>3292207
did you work for a mag or a dev company?

[Anonymous No.3292224]

>>3292212
Konami, yeah

[Anonymous No.3292363]

>>3292212
Nintendo, yeah

[Anonymous No.3292368]

>>3291813
I remember when E3 was nothing and ECTS was the most important trade show of the year.

[Anonymous No.3292370]

>>3291813
Did anyone even watch E3 prior to 2000? Was it even possible? I can't imagine trying to stream on dial-up.

[Anonymous No.3292383]

>>3291885
Oh yeah, you had companies throwing before- and after-parties back in the 90s.

Also, E3 used to have SHITLOADS of booth babes. Not just Lara Croft models but sexy babes in every companies booth, either game related, or just as official Company PR girls.

Yet today, Microsoft gets heavily criticized for hiring dancer girls in the afterparty of the PC developers conference.

I swear, America gets more homosexual every year. In 20 years from now, it'll be considered publically offensive to be a male over there.

[Anonymous No.3292407]

>>3292383
>I swear, America gets more homosexual every year. In 20 years from now, it'll be considered publically offensive to be a male over there.
Easy there ACHMED, we don't want you pulling the trigger on another gay nightclub.

[Anonymous No.3292731]

>>3292407
Why not?

[Anonymous No.3293162]

>>3292194
im here and its still dope fgts

[Anonymous No.3293194]

>>3291845
>>3291856
Just wait until VR kicks in. This trend actually has been in the works for more than a decade, slowly turning from gameplay to virtual experience.

The videogame world would be better if we draw a clear disctintion between the two (forum, journalism, shops).

[Anonymous No.3293197]

>>3293194
unrelated but reminded me of this.
lol

[Anonymous No.3293204]

>>3293194
>>3293197
I really don't see what the hype is about over VR. The appeal of being able to free look around and area and pick stuff up and examine it from all sides is going to get old quick. Besides it's just fake VR anyway. The good shit will be in god knows how many years, when you plug a chip in your brain and literally live and breath the game.

Call me when that's a thing, if I'm still alive that is.

[Anonymous No.3293206]

>>3293204
Steam VR had it.
They had it with the room movement and all.
And what they did.
Instead of walking every game used teleport.
Every single one.
Cables were another huge problem while walking.
i just dont know

[Anonymous No.3293370]

>>3291828
I thought it was pretty great to be honest.

Seriously, the line up of games that have been shown off, hinted at, and getting trailers or release dates is fucking incredible.

>Prey 2
>Dishonored 2
>New Wolfenstein confirmed
>Battlefield 1
>Titanfall 2
>For Honor
>Grow Up
>Steep
>ReCore
>Sea of Thieves
>Scalebound
>Spider-Man
>The Last Guardian
>Horizon: Zero Dawn
>Gravity Rush 2
>Persona 5
>Legends of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
>Pokémon Sun & Moon
>Mirage: Arcane Warfare
>Dawn of War III
>Tyranny
>Final Fantasy XV
>NieR: Automata

It honestly might be the best line-up its ever had, in my opinion. I'm super pumped to play literally every game listed above.

[Anonymous No.3293394]

>>3293370
I agree.

While obviously a lot of the stuff shown was shit, a lot of it seems really cool and fun as well. It's been a pretty good E3, especially compared to the shitfest that it turned into from 2008-11.

[Anonymous No.3293398]

>>3293370
>Prey 2
It was called just Prey and has nothing to do with the original title.
You also seem underage

[Anonymous No.3293405]

>>3293398
I'm 28

And it looks like a return to form compared to the original Prey 2, which was set to deviate from the original wildly, so I'm pretty pleased with it.

[Anonymous No.3293414]

>>3292212
EGM, yeah

[Anonymous No.3293417]

>>3293370
Yeah I'm not sure why there's so much negativity in this thread.

This year was actually good.

[Anonymous No.3293423]

>>3291828
>>3291845

>Now it's just even more obvious it's all literally just a show to get people hyped.

The irony is that's what E3 was always intended to be. It's a trade show. It's purpose is to get retailers excited about various games so they want to order many copies of them.

In the 90's a lot of gaming magazines latched onto it because it was the earliest a lot of games got shown to the public. But that was never it's main purpose. Now developers have realized that E3 is a massive phenomenon and that unless their game is massive it's probably better to announce it at a different time of year so the news doesn't get buried. Hence each year of E3 seems less impressive than the last.

[Anonymous No.3293427]

>>3291856
>Every "game journalist" for a place like IGN, or Gamespot, or whatever is a huge fucking casual

What exactly do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3293441]

>>3293370
Sen 2 isn't as nearly as good if you haven't played zero and the rest...

[Anonymous No.3293443]

>>3291828
E3 doesn't even show new stuff anymore, it's all stuff that has been announced before.

[Anonymous No.3293454]

>>3293441
I thought TitS 1+2 were shit and liked Sen so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

[Anonymous No.3293458]

>>3293194
that girl in the bottom pic is looking yummy

[Anonymous No.3293474]

>>3293441
That really isn't true, Sen was made as a new jumping on point for the series and you can enjoy it fully without playing TitS or Crossbell

[Anonymous No.3293651]

>>3292370
That would have been impossible

[Anonymous No.3293672]

>>3291813
in all honesty i think that E3 is less about showing off all the new games/tech to the world and more about marketing nowadays more than ever. i feel like im in a big business meeting at work these days more than i am actually enjoying whats being showed. Bethesda's conference for example felt like the speakers where reciting an advertisement more than they where actually enthusiastic/cared about what they where selling.

[Anonymous No.3293714]

>>3293423
I know that's what it always intended to be.

But this year it just... felt different.

It literally felt like I was watching commercials for the entire day.

[Anonymous No.3293752]

>>3291828
What I miss is that there were consoles/PCs out for press and public to actually play the games to find out how they are. Now it's all this boring ass cinematics with zero gameplay or those scripted gameplay segments.

I'm tired of all the executives shooting out buzzwords to a auditorium of press and just want the games out on the floor for everyone to play.

[Anonymous No.3293754]

>>3293714
That's because now that games get more coverage year round, the trade show is starting to go back to what it was originally intended to be.

[Anonymous No.3293764]

>>3293206
If I could get a wireless and light headset with a pair of gloves that supported 1:1 with feedback and a small omidirection treadmill, I would be all for VR.

As of right now, it's running into the same issues VR had in the 90s with very small library of games, users are corded so they can't walk, it's still very expensive, games have to be slowed down for players to react, limited to FPS, and the novelty wears off and you just go back to playing you normal games with a controller.

[Anonymous No.3293778]

Guys have you seen the SEGA E3 conference this year?
I will give you straight.
They are dead company.
Jesus Christ what an embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.3293780]

>>3293778
2002 called. It wants it's news back.

[Anonymous No.3293785]

>>3293778
I will give short recap.

>10 minutes late stream
>stream starts
>its two brit fat guys over skype on a small box on the screen
>audio quality is webcam tier so is the video
>they announce some kind event in san diego but in order to enter you need to visit some blog,leave a joke and if they two guy have a laugh you win.
>trailer for Dawn on War which they commented on - WOOW "cinematic gameplay"-
>new yakuza
>called some kid that woks on Sonic and gave out this link in pic related
>when you go to it leads to Sonic is Dead video on youtube.
>He was into memes or so he said.
>thanks for watching
Whole thing was 10 minutes long
what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.3293803]

>>3293785
They have fixed the link now.

[Anonymous No.3293828]

>>3293370
Wow a bunch of crappy games everyone will forget about in 5 minutes. Sounds good to me!

[Anonymous No.3293830]

>>3293828
>everyone

Not everyone is (you).

[Anonymous No.3293837]

>>3293830
There's nothing exciting there. Nothing innovative or new. If you think this will be a memorable year, you are delusional

[Anonymous No.3293840]

>>3293837
>There's nothing exciting there.
Subjective.
>Nothing innovative or new.
Objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.3293843]

>>3293840
>>Nothing innovative or new.
>Objectively wrong.

What is innovative or new then? 2 words of text isn't an argument.

[Anonymous No.3293849]

>>3293837
Like I say, not everyone is you. But I am guessing you're one of the people who is overall unhappy with current video games so we're probably coming from very different perspectives.

I won't try to change your mind, I could care less what you think of this E3. But your opinion is far from universal.

[Anonymous No.3293878]

>>3293843
The new Zelda is radically altering the series formula and implementing an openworld model that includes physics systems that are uncommon for the sandbox formula, such as advanced wind simulation which can and will affect physical objects, fire, and flight in a gameplay-critical manner that even Wind Waker or Far Cry 2 didn't approach.

Horizon: Zero Dawn meshes typical Monster Hunter mechanics into an archery focused ARPG in a manner never seen before.

Sea of Thieves is an openworld, pvp and/or co-operative multiplayer focused piracy game with dynamic weather and may as well be in its own genre compared to anything else I can think of.

For Honour is a competitively focused, pvp hack n slash game that takes the foundation laid by titles such as Chivalry and expands upon them with a more in-depth dueling system, more developed AI, and a broader cultural scope in terms of the weapons and races on offer.

Mirage: Arcane Warfare is similar to the above but with a hyperfocus on magic and extremely detailed systems relating to it that haven't been done before in a pvp game.

Gravity Rush 2 is an openworld action-platformer with gravity manipulation acting as the key mechanic and is radically expanding on the first game's assortment of powers by now implementing the ability to vary the heroine's and other objects mass in such a manner as to essentially triple the means by which she can manipulate her powers - once again, a set of mechanics not present in any other game. This is in addition to its already novel visual presentation and themes.

Tyranny is a CRPG dedicated entirely to acting as an in-depth simulation of acting as the villain rather than the hero.

ReCore, Steep, and Scalebound are also new IPs - as are several of the above games.

You can bitch all you want about how good they look but you literally cannot say these titles aren't 'new' or 'innovative' in some manner.

[Anonymous No.3293883]

>>3293878
Why bother answering him? The kinda assholes on this board who constantly decry sequels as rehashes and new games as derivative like he does are never satisfied, and he'll just fucking claim none of your points count because you're able to compare those games to older ones - no matter how retarded it is as a counter-argument.

[Anonymous No.3293889]

>>3293883
This. There are some here who hate anything new no matter what. They're not worth trying to actually talk to like normal people.

[Anonymous No.3293893]

>>3293883
I figured it was worth a shot, I guess.

[Anonymous No.3293914]

>>3293370
>FFXV
>Dishonored 2
>Call of Titanfall 2
>Prey reboot after only one game
>The Dead Guardian
>Dawn of War 3: Assfaggots Edition
>any of these being good

Go back to /v/ you tasteless cancerous shit.

[Anonymous No.3293920]

>>3293914
There's literally nothing wrong with Dishonored 2, DoW3, and TLG.

[Anonymous No.3293926]

>>3293878
>>3293883
You guys are essentially apologists for large publishers.

The only difference between you and shills is that you don't get paid.

[Anonymous No.3293927]

>>3293920
>there's nothing wrong with a stealth game that gives you unnecessary superpowers because casuals can't into actual stealth games, an RTS turning into another fucking moba because we sure don't have enough of those, and game in development hell for so long it might as well be dead

I think reddit might be more your speed.

[Anonymous No.3293928]

cum on guys, let's be positive.

[Anonymous No.3293930]

>>3293927
>wah wah wah why doesn't this stealth game play exactly like other ones
>wah wah wah why does this RTS from a series that's always had a focus on unit abilities and small squads now focus on it even more
>wah wah wah long dev times mean a game is bad

All I'm getting from this is that you can't handle change and you're probably underage.

Dishonored 2 also gives you the option of playing entirely without ever gaining supernatural abilities by the way.

[Anonymous No.3293936]

>>3293926
>you're just an apologist for not hating what I hate

Fuck off unless you have something to contribute to the discussion that's not just ad hominem

[Anonymous No.3293942]

>>3293930
>WAH WAH WAH UR A BABY
You showed me, spineless apologist.

>u can't handle change
I take it back. Here's your home.

>>>/neogaf/

And stay there.

And those are still probably going to suck.

[Anonymous No.3293945]

>>3293936
How about telling your buddy to stop ad homineming faggot>>3293930

[Anonymous No.3293949]

>>3293945
>going to another anon crying for them to deal with me

Holy fuck you really ARE underage.

[Anonymous No.3293965]

>>3293878
Still nothing new there

>>3293883

But you faggots can keep sucking the cock of AAA developers. Be sure to lick up all the cum when you're finished

[Anonymous No.3293967]

>>3293949
>i have no rebuttal so I'll just use anopther buzzword!

Real creative dipshit. No one cares about your shilling and no one is buying it except other dumb fucks.

[Anonymous No.3293969]

>>3293370
>the only game I gave some amount of fucks was pkmn and I wasn't quite expecting much from nintendo on that matter
>all them cinematic games
Have gaming industry died on AAA level after Portal 2?

[Anonymous No.3293970]

Daily reminder that you will never see a "Promised Land"-style event again at an E3 because of political correctness shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Developers

>During the gaming trade event E3, Gathering of Developers was known for being extremely extravagant, offering free barbecue, live music, and beer to the nearly 10,000 E3 attendees that would cross the street into their "Promised Lot" each day; they were also famous for their Catholic Schoolgirl 'booth babes'.[1]

[Anonymous No.3293974]

>>3293970
Nowadays white men aren't allowed. They are pro "diversity" now

[Anonymous No.3293976]

>>3293965
>I've got no reply so I'll just say they're wrong without backing up why I think so
>>3293967
>Still has nothing but ad hominem to add to the duscussion

Y'all suck dick at this 'discussion and debate' thing, y'know that?

[Anonymous No.3293979]

I hate video games, gamer culture, and anyone who likes video games

That's why I browse /vr/

[Anonymous No.3293980]

>>3293976


" The kinda assholes on this board who constantly decry sequels as rehashes and new games as derivative like he does are never satisfied"

Holy shit look at that damage control. You have to be a fucking moron to shill sequels and rehashes this much. It is getting stale as fuck and cliche and people are losing interest. Deal with it

[Anonymous No.3293984]

/vr/ really is like 80% angry 20-something neckbeards who hate minorities and think they were born too late because they're contrarians, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.3293987]

>>3293984
>more ad hominem, more assumptions and strawmanning just because you're butthurt that no one will buy your shitty game

How about fuck off to /v/ if you don't like it? So many of you retards love to bitch and complain instead of just fucking off. You cant control everything and sorry that your shilling isn't working and you're getting angry now. Not our problem

[Anonymous No.3293990]

>>3293984
Untrue.

Those guys hate everything, not just minorities.

[Anonymous No.3293992]

>>3293980
>people are losing interest
>gaming as an industry is growing year on year
>as are the major publishers and console manufacturers

Sorry Jim but you're just out of touch with reality, now.

[Anonymous No.3293994]

>>3293990
>I'm losing the argument so I'll just call him racist! That will make me look smarter and more noble!

[Anonymous No.3293997]

>>3293992
yes thanks to e-celebs, not thanks to any sincere interest in vidya

[Anonymous No.3293998]

>>3293987
>getting this fanny flustered while saying someone else is the angry one

>>3293984
Took you this long to notice?

Half this board is primarily here because they hate modern gaming, and not because they actually love retro games. They just want to have a hugbox where they can whine about anything made this century rather than a chill place to discuss old classics and obscure gems.

[Anonymous No.3294008]

>>3293998
>old classics
more like overrated shit
>obscure gems.
nothing is obscure anymore after the internet, chances are I've already played whatever crap you're thinking of

[Anonymous No.3294009]

>>3293998
/v/ is a better place for you then. This thread is turning completely off topic for this board in the first place and all you can do is kick and scream like a child. Don't like it? Then fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3294013]

>>3293997
>people buy expensive consoles, pcs, and games because of youtubers and not because they want to play vidya

I honestly have no words for how hilariously silly you sound right now

[Anonymous No.3294014]

>>3294009
>still insisting it's me who is upset when he's the one cussing up a storm, asking other anons to deal with me, and begging me to leave

You're not fooling anyone, you know.

[Anonymous No.3294023]

>>3294014

All you're doing is insulting people for their opinion then whining and crying that this board doesn't suit your needs and that peoples opinions trigger you. How am I the one who is butthurt? I'm telling you to leave if you don't like it.

Or are you a typical entitled retard that thinks everything should bend over to your demands?


>>3294013
hoo boy, we got a new level of delusion here.. have you seen the prices for retro games lately?

[Anonymous No.3294025]

>>3294023
I've not insulted anyone besides you for acting like a massive, triggered crybaby and demanding I leave for having a different sense of taste.

You're just acting like a massive hypocrite now, guilty of the very shit you're accusing me of.

Though please feel free to keep flinging shit, it's sorta amusing.

[Anonymous No.3294038]

>>3294025

>Half this board is primarily here because they hate modern gaming, and not because they actually love retro games.

>Those guys hate everything, not just minorities.

> /vr/ really is like 80% angry 20-something neckbeards who hate minorities and think they were born too late because they're contrarians, isn't it?

That's what you said. Sounds like you're being a kicking and screaming cry baby to me, making up stories about people you never met because you're hurt that no one gives 2 fucks about modern gaming here

[Anonymous No.3294046]

>>3294038
Actually I only said one of those things.

And thank you for continuing to prove my point that the only one actually upset about meaningless imageboard posts here is you.

[Anonymous No.3294049]

>>3294046
>Actually I only said one of those things.

I still proved my point. Stay salty

[Anonymous No.3294056]

>>3294049
>thread for classic E3 moments
>turns into kids fighting about current e3

i expected better /vr/

[Anonymous No.3294079]

>>3294056
Hey, don't go pointing fingers at me. I just said I thought the current one wasn't shit and explained why, not my fault that guy got triggered and kept making such hilarious and angry posts about it.

I'll drop it though, he seems to have left anyway.

Though to be honest this thread seems kinda dumb conceptually considering how little footage there is of any pre-2000 E3 and how hard it is to even find full records of what was shown these days, I doubt many here attended in person either back then because of its fairly closed off nature.

[Anonymous No.3294135]

Sounds to me like there's a lot of grumpy old men in this tread. This year's E3 was great. The new God of War looks fantastic and I say that as someone who would only give the old ones a 5/10 at best. A firm but nurturing and mellow Kratos is great development for him so I'm interested. Robo dino game looks good, and RE7 will be fantastic if it's anything like the demo.

It's not the best E3 we've ever had but everyone focused on games instead of gimmicks like dancing in front of a Kinect so even though my dream games were not announced it wasn't a bad E3.

[Anonymous No.3294162]

>>3292407
>>I swear, America gets more homosexual every year. In 20 years from now, it'll be considered publically offensive to be a male over there.
>Easy there ACHMED, we don't want you pulling the trigger on another gay nightclub.

He could be posting from Japan where sexy booth babes are the rule, and the considerations which have eliminated them in America nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.3294169]

To return to the days of the 1993 CES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIsYIp3wknY

[Anonymous No.3294174]

>>3293970
Who fucking cares? It's not like I'll ever actually go to e3.

[Anonymous No.3294175]

>>3294169
wow that looks so amateurish and lowkey compared to now

[Anonymous No.3294179]

>>3293970
And people wonder why people are voting for Trump in droves.

[Anonymous No.3294203]

>>3294079
>don't blame me I'm the one who can't handle arguing about anticipating games others aren't optimistic about!

>>3294135
>God of War

Hooray, more dogshit in an already dogshit series.

Seriously, where did you faggots circle jerking over modern games crawl out of? Why not take that discussion back to neofag where you can have your forced positivity hugbox there?

[Anonymous No.3294206]

>>3294175
From that to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7qTHbOEiDY

[Anonymous No.3294213]

>>3294203
>Seriously, where did you faggots circle jerking over modern games crawl out of?

Because some of us genuinely like video games and don't limit that enjoyment to certain years they were made.

[Anonymous No.3294217]

>>3294203
It's very reddit. When you disagree with/call.out their false positivity the Reeeee comes out on these idiots

[Anonymous No.3294218]

>>3293970

Back then E3 was exactly what you expected it to be.

It was the way you drew attention to yourself.

Easiest way to get journalists in a majorly male industry was to lure them in with hot girls for your booth. Then you shmooze them, give them swag and snacks so they had a great experience. So when they went back to their hotels they had nothing but good things to say about your game, despite probably barely seeing it at the event.

Now they're trying to PC it all, so they're still doing things to impress people but it's not nearly as blatant.

[Anonymous No.3294219]

>>3294169
Wow, is that supposed to be SatAM Sonic? Looks very different.

[Anonymous No.3294256]

>>3294213
Except that is not retro yet off topic yet not allowed on this board

[Anonymous No.3294293]

>>3294256
Then I guess the people saying this year's E3 was shit shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

[Anonymous No.3294313]

>>3294218
>Now they're trying to PC it all, so they're still doing things to impress people but it's not nearly as blatant.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.3294338]

>>3294313
A sterile overly controlled environment us a good thing?

[Anonymous No.3294783]

When was the first ever E3? This thread had potential for some interesting info but sadly went off course

[Anonymous No.3294818]

>>3293370
Most of those games are shit. R3 use to have it where you had about a hundred or more games shown and only some of them would be shit.

[Anonymous No.3294851]

>>3293984
Are you're the 20% of underagefags who think they are born in the wrong generation while voting liberal because it's current year?

[Anonymous No.3294854]

>>3294783
Google is your friend.

[Anonymous No.3294856]

>>3293984
>liking minorities
I want normalfags to leave.

[Anonymous No.3295323]

>>3293204
grand theft auto 6 being in VR would actually be cool I dont know why so many people act as if VR is the lamest idea ever this isnt 1990 this isnt nintendo we're talking about. this is real hardware.

[Anonymous No.3295353]

>>3293998
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.3295362]

>>3295323
>I dont know why so many people act as if VR is the lamest idea

Because VR is ultimately about improving visuals by tricking your eyes into thinking you are enveloped by the image and this is a board for people who don't care that much about graphics. VR literally achieves nothing for gameplay despite shills trying to imply that it does (usually by acting like motion controls were never used in gaming before).

There's not one fucking VR game that you couldn't do on a regular monitor and a webcam.

[Anonymous No.3295621]

I thought the new Zelda looked cool

[Anonymous No.3295640]

hey now...
The new zelda looked pretty cool like a mix of Shadow of the colossus.
And the virtual reality VR stuff is badass.

[Anonymous No.3295649]

>>3295362
>Never used VR

[Anonymous No.3295674]

Probably E3 1997 as it was the first E3 I even knew existed thanks to Playstation Magazine (iirc it was their premier issue or something).

I was so hyped over Resident Evil 1.5 (2 at the time obv) and Castlevania SOTN.

[Anonymous No.3295682]

How many of you guys were at E3 2000?

[Anonymous No.3295974]

>>3295323
I'm surprised this board is so against it considering the Virtual Boy which tried it decades earlier. They bitch the VB was trash and now that tech has finally got to the point it can be done justice no one wants to give it a chance.

[Anonymous No.3295978]

>>3295649
Also he lacks the ability to imagine. I feel bad for this board sometimes.

[Anonymous No.3295981]

>>3295974
That's just /vr/ though. This is a gathering place for cranky people who hate everything new. When affordable, good vr finally arrives it's going to be incredible.

[Anonymous No.3295995]

>>3295362
>VR literally achieves nothing for gameplay

Yes it does. You become more immersed in the game. That is all part of the gameplay and overall experience because it affects how you play it. It's more than just pressing A to jump.

[Anonymous No.3296019]

>>3295649
You know people on /v/ and reddit are now laughing at VR shills who use the "you never tried it" line right?

[Anonymous No.3296060]

>>3295981
>whoever disagrees with me is a cranky old man that hates everything

You wonder why people call you a "shill" all the time when you are making posts like that

[Anonymous No.3296065]

>>3295353
Then why are you here?

[Anonymous No.3296751]

>>3296060
Literally I've been on /vr/ since it's existed and no one has ever called me a shill for anything. I'm just saying, I think a lot of the people who come here are cranky and hate modern gaming.

>>3296065
Because I'm an old fart who grew up with "retro" games and I still like playing and talking about them. I just also like games from other eras though.

[Anonymous No.3296842]

What does /vr/ think of CES? I know it's more /gr/ than anything, but there have been nice vidya shown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-qJYJnhbYw

[Anonymous No.3296938]

I didn't follow this year's E3 due to work, even though I spend most my videogame time on old videogames, I can still get my hype boner up for modern E3 as seen in this video:

https://youtu.be/HtNgD4JuQ-E


I remember a couple years of ancient CES when it was literally walking distance from my home and I went there in back to back years after school. I was very young, obviously a kid, but I still asked asked a few presenters at the booths what I thought were some decent questions. My memories are very vivid of these two because I experienced them.

Squaresoft was showing off "Final Fantasy 3" (showing off the beautiful snow sequence we all know) and I asked them about Final Fantasy 5 and their plans on releasing it to the US. The representative's response was saying they wanted to release the game as "Final Fantasy Extreme" (it was the 90s) because it was very different. I also asked about jobs for their US division, and they told me to send work in, of which later they did create a game in the US as we know would become Secret of Evermore.

Capcom had a booth showing off the then hotness that was Street Fighter Turbo for SNES with the equivalent of a modern day hype man, emphasizing "competition" but more interesting to me at the time on Nintendo's floor, Capcom had a station with what would become Mega Man X's tutorial stage without dialogue windows at the end.

Origin impressed me with their games they had on display. As a fan of Wing Commander it was nice they opened up a scenario creator which became Academy. More interesting to me was what I felt was a modified Wolfenstein engine for Shadowcaster which I asked about. I learned of Raven Software then, and realized they had some great artists.


Comment too long, I can go on about Sega, TTI (TuboDuo), Megatech, Mindscape, Nintendo, Capstone Entertainment, Phillips, etc. Point being, trade shows was a great experience alongside videogames, I loved it when I was young, maybe kids like them now too.

[Anonymous No.3296992]

>>3296019
And I should care why?
Especially in this guys case where he's saying it's nothing more than 3d waggle and is clearly misunderstanding VR. (Or just baiting)

[Anonymous No.3297013]

>>3296992
But it's right. An argument for VR like >>3295995
gives is fundamentally nonsense

>You become more immersed in the game. That is all part of the gameplay

How is immersion part of the gameplay? Immersion is something that happens inside your own head, it doesn't have any effect on game mechanics. You don't need VR to be immersed anyway.

Immersion is created by imagination (imagining you are actually there), VR takes imagination away from you by providing too much visual stimulus. It will never be as immersive as a good book.

The entire VR hype train is basically driven by trans-humanist futurist fantasies that we are very far from realizing anyway. People fell for the "you can have the future, today!" meme that's been around since the 80s in various forms.

[Anonymous No.3297043]

>>3296938
I hate to be a pest, but I am always fascinated by early versions of games and it is neat to see someone on here who actually went to some old CES shows. I know it has been over twenty years ago, but do you have any other recollections of peculiarities in that MMX sample other than the lack of dialogue boxes?

[Anonymous No.3297051]

>>3297013
I agree, immersion is a tricky word.

For me, the important gaming immersion has little to do with the visual "quality" of the world that's being presented to you, neither the sound design quality, to be fair. Not that these aren't extremely important for some people, or in some cases.

One can play or read a text book adventure and be more immersed in its world than playing a game with top notch graphics in a dark room with a headset. Is the latter immersion? Yes it is, but it's a artificial immersion. The immersion that has the most importance, imo, is the "emotional" investment in what you're doing, be it simple fun or the need to see something come to an end, defeat a boss, whatever.

[Anonymous No.3297060]

>>3297043

Not a pest at all, an old fart like I appreciates the youngin's listening. Sadly the one demo station at that CES which had Megaman X only had that one stage. It was in Nintendo's section and towards one end. Very spacious and empty (soft carpeting ^^) not many people were there, no lines, just walk right up. I wished they had a brochure of the game to take, but it wasn't given much of a focus at that particular show.

[Anonymous No.3297076]

>>3297051
My original comment was too long, so I deleted the portion I was going to say about Sega at those CES shows.

One year they focused on Sonic 2. At one side they had a demo station with Streets of Rage 2 next to Silpheed (for Sega CD). The Streets of Rage 2 early build did not have any enemies and only went so far on the first stage up to the point where it now scrolls vertically. So obviously I didn't have much fun just moving a character from left to right with no interactions. I think there may be a ROM of that released now, but I am only going off of memory here. I believe some websites or magazine pictures in its days may have shown some signage and floor tile differences, but that is too small a detail for me to remember.

[Anonymous No.3297078]

I thought E3 was underwhelming this year too, but that probably has more to do with me getting old and bitter than anything else.

When we get to E3 2036 people will be romanticizing all sorts of dumb shit about this year that didn't really happen while forgetting all the bad stuff.

Assuming President Trump hasn't bankrupted the planet by then.

[Anonymous No.3297080]

Sorry last post was meant for

>>3297043

[Anonymous No.3297093]

>>3297078
Isn't the planet already bankrupt?

[Anonymous No.3297660]

I heard nintendos presentation was pathetic. Is that true,?

[Anonymous No.3297769]

>>3297660
>I heard nintendos presentation was pathetic. Is that true,?

It was literally Reggie in a back room.

Then they showed a bunch of gameplay footage of the new Zelda, and the new Pokemon, and that was basically it.

[Anonymous No.3297813]

>>3297660
At least they actually showed up this year instead of teleconferencing with muppets like last year.

[Anonymous No.3297825]

>>3297813
I think that was to hide how sick Iwata was.

[Anonymous No.3298090]

>>3293969
>muh valve
valve birthed cinematic gaming

[Anonymous No.3298103]

>>3297769
I actually like what i have seen so far from Zelda. People say everything that new zelda offer has been done already, but i don't agree. I think the game puts a lot of emphasis into the environment, whereas we are used to sandbox where the only thing that matters is to reach the next town/dungeon and buy/kill/steal stuff. I have a huge confidence into the quality of zelda games.

[Anonymous No.3298192]

>>3297825
I still can't accept the fact that we lost him.

[Anonymous No.3298352]

>/vr/ - Retro Games
>Thread is about this year E3

[Anonymous No.3298364]

>>3298352
>18+ English language website
>can't read English

[Anonymous No.3298370]

>>3298103
I'm excited because it's going to be an open-world game that's not a buggy mess.

[Anonymous No.3300773]

>>3291813
Maybe it is over exposure to it? I remember when to really get the good information about it, you would have to get a magazine like EGM or something. Late 90s and early 2000s, sites like IGN and Gamespot didn't have as good as content as the printed magazines, but printed magazines are almost a thing of the past so now every website on the internet even remotely related to games cover it.

[Anonymous No.3300785]

>>3298364
Except that people are talking about the new Zelda.

[Anonymous No.3303067]

I don't want to watch fake trailers of games I'll never get to play.

Fucking downgrades.

[Anonymous No.3303663]

>>3293926
>if you arent a pissy little melodramatic /v/ contrarian you are shill or a wannabe shill
Just fucking killyourself already neckbear
>>>/v/