Is this the darkest JRPG ever?

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Anonymous Tue Apr 2 07:51:41 2013 No.329103 [Reply] [Original]

Is this the darkest JRPG ever?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 07:55:41 2013 No.329123 when i played it i thought itwas just incredibly weird. but then the german translatuion sucked really hard so who knows. i really liked the part with the skeleton of a king on that ship though.

>>	Ark Tue Apr 2 07:56:41 2013 No.329127 [limiting to SNES RPGs for comparison] The sequel Terranigma has darker aspects to it, but that game is darker on average. FFVI was probably darker than both. Have you played Soul Blazer and Terranigma?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 07:57:41 2013 No.329139 I highly doubt it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ-29UiOt3w

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 07:58:41 2013 No.329146 I'm pretty sure games like Shin Megami Tensei are considered darker.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 09:52:41 2013 No.329796 Phantasy Star II or Breath of Fire II

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 10:12:41 2013 No.329938 >>329103 Try Mana Khemia. As for Retro, Lunar is pretty dark at times. Lunar 1 was dark on its own, but the remakes turns Ghaleon's sheer evil up a few notches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 10:19:41 2013 No.329972 >>329123 i agree with this, i didnt find the game 'dark' but it was definitely a weird as fuck game, which gave me some strange feels.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 11:41:41 2013 No.330657
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It's not IN YOUR FACE SKELETONS AND RAPE dark, but subtle dark.

Angels committing suicide, playing Russian roulette against a man with a family, burning that assassin dude alive and watching him crawl, the slave shit, inca ship skellingtons, Seth turning into a sea monster, game slapping you in the face with harsh reality like the shipwreck scene, hamlet, etc etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 11:42:41 2013 No.330674 >>329103 >Is this the darkest JRPG ever? Since when did Vagrant Story use sprites?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:00:41 2013 No.330864 >>329938 I wouldn't say that Lunar is dark in general, but >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNBTGeWUmj8 Jesus fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:16:41 2013 No.331019 >>329103 and what's the name of this game?

>>	Atwill !kelPcGZQlE Tue Apr 2 12:17:41 2013 No.331028 File: 180 KB, 512x287, 2013-04-02_181509.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The second Arc the Lad, while not being particularly dark in general, has one of the most grotesquely (and unnecessarily) depressing endings I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:20:41 2013 No.331057 File: 53 KB, 300x340, 1350547871601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>330864 >Lunar >dat magical girl transformation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShl67V3yqs

>>	Ark Tue Apr 2 12:25:41 2013 No.331101 >>331019 Illusion of Gaia for SNES

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:31:41 2013 No.331132

>>329127

Not OP but I would even go as far as to say Soul Blazer is the "darkest" of all three.

It isn't obvious but there's something so eerie about the depressing lives of the people/animals who you respawn. Also the inanimate objects have a pretty grim view on the world.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:33:41 2013 No.331153
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I happen to be playing through it again for the umpteenth time, and yeah, its pretty darn dark, but not the darkest. For its day tho, it was grim as fuck. It certainly didn't pull any punches and every SNES / action RPG fan owes it to themselves to play though this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:40:41 2013 No.331214 >>331101 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:44:41 2013 No.331264 wouldn't the darkest and most creepy SNES RPG be Earthbound/Mother 2? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gbG_gzgyJI

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:51:41 2013 No.331358 >>329938 >Lunar 1 was dark on its own, but the remakes turns Ghaleon's sheer evil up a few notches. >DRAGONBOI >TIME TO DIE

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:53:41 2013 No.331378
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Breath of Fire IV was pretty fucked up at times, even the "primary villain" only irredeemably became one after he got shot with a soul cannon literally powered by torturing the one woman he cared for.

Also instead of saving the princess you find her as an undying yet sane legless half-abomination, all caused by the experiments of a guy who ultimately gets away with the whole thing. In the end she begs his lover who spent the whole game searching for her to mercy kill her.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:57:41 2013 No.331412

>>331132
I dont know, terranigma had some fucking evil shit going on in it.
Take for example how elle became the daughter of the king.
He rolls into town and demands treasure. Murders an entire village of people and captures a child whom he then raises as his own.
Wouldnt surprise me if the king was raping her and that is why she is stuck in a fugue state till she stabs the ever loving shit out of him.

>>	Ark Tue Apr 2 12:57:41 2013 No.331425 >>331412 The King in Soul Blazer did sell every living soul on the planet to the devil for a gold coin each. That's some dark shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:59:41 2013 No.331447 >>331425 Elle in a previous incarnation as an incan queen murdered her people for insane reasons and for the gods. It ends with Elle killing Ark and all the other character but before they die from poison they stab her to death...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:00:41 2013 No.331452 >>331378 Someone needs to hack the US version and restore all the cut content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:03:41 2013 No.331479 File: 7 KB, 300x168, TheEndingToIllusionOfGaia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That ending

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:07:41 2013 No.331535

I miss games like Illusion of Gaia (Time for EU) and Terranigma. They had a certain type of atmosphere that I somehow can't find in any other modern game.

The incan ship scene in IoG, the raft etc and by far the last half of Terranigma. Infact the ending to Terranigma still makes me sad as the guy loses everything to save everything. And yes I know it ends with the bird flying and baby sound at her doorstep

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:08:41 2013 No.331546 >>331378 Imo Breath of Fire 2 was the darkest, Nina's sister, Your Mother, the cult that wanted to kill the dragons, the rebel group getting their shit wrecked.. The true ending.. there was no closer at the end of BoF2

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:09:41 2013 No.331553

I play a little bit of Illusion of Gaia some years ago on a Windows 2000 laptop using ZSNES vIcan'tremember. I thought it was good at the time, but I stopped playing for some reason. Is it really that good that I should revisit it? Mind you, I'm really busy, so I almost have to prioritize which games I play for a while.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:10:41 2013 No.331568 >>331452 Fou giving the Emperor a taste of the Royal Sword is really the only one that deserves to be readded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:10:41 2013 No.331575 >>331553 Seeing that it wont take you a long time to beat it, yah. Its worth the play man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:12:41 2013 No.331598 >>331575 Alright then. I'll give it a shot this weekend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:14:41 2013 No.331629 >>331535 I cried like a bitch at the ending of IoG. To go through all that, to finally hold your love in your arms then die in the cold dead of space just to be reborn and not even remember one another.

>>	Ark Tue Apr 2 13:15:41 2013 No.331642 >>331598 If you like IoG you totally should do Soul Blazer next.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:16:41 2013 No.331654 File: 1.58 MB, 551x4628, 1364340504790.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>331535 >Terranigma

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:16:41 2013 No.331656
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>>331546
>Imo Breath of Fire 2 was the darkest

dude 4 had an entire village of children get slaughtered by what was essentially the team rocket villain of the game

plus there was this asshole who got away scott fucking free

oh and a sword that was made out the head of a screaming immortal god that's still alive and hungers for it's own body so it consumes and can even kill immortals

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:16:41 2013 No.331661 >>331642 If you are going the quintet trilogy do them in order. Soul Blazer, Illusion of Time/Gaia, then Terranigma.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:17:41 2013 No.331676 Alundra is pretty dark, don't know about the game in OP's pic

>>	Ark Tue Apr 2 13:19:41 2013 No.331707 >>331661 Yeah yeah, but with limited time, and having already played some IoG, IoG->SB is fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:20:41 2013 No.331715 >>331661 >ignoring granstream saga

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:22:41 2013 No.331731 SUPAR GRIMDARK XTREME GAMES FOR XTREME GAMERS VIOLENT DEATHKILL xxXXxX 666 XxXXX ~~~ HAIL SATAN ~~~

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:22:41 2013 No.331739 >>331715 I loved that game at the time, think it'd be worth a replay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:24:41 2013 No.331772 File: 62 KB, 500x357, medium_2760640158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>331739 never played it, but plan to soon.

>>	Blitz !OhLawdmvac Tue Apr 2 13:25:41 2013 No.331776 File: 194 KB, 744x1100, grandia-ii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I found this pretty fucking dark, though it's DC so not strictly retro. Final Fantasy 2 and 6 are pretty fucking dark, as were the Lufia and a lot of the SaGa games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:25:41 2013 No.331787 >>331772 Even when it was new I looked at the graphics...early 3d man...I try to love it but eww

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:26:41 2013 No.331801 File: 737 KB, 725x816, SMT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's SMT. What's edgier than killling all your friends and hanging out with Lucifer in the post apocalypse?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:28:41 2013 No.331810

>>331656
But that was the point of BoF4 though, it was to force you as a player to see both the worst and best that humans had to offer so you could make that final choice at that end of the game. I'm not saying BoF4 wasnt dark i just found world and high points to out weight the low and dark points of the game. Still all the same BoF4 was an awesome game.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:28:41 2013 No.331818

>>331715
I played it and it had one of the stupidist plots ever. Not to mention the emo chick who cuts herself on your dagger, oh an the fan service.
Also I didnt mention RoboTrek either, and id play RoboTrek again over Granstream Saga, even though most hated RoboTrek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:32:41 2013 No.331853 It's not the darkest, but the Tactics Ogre series has its moments, especially the end of act 1 of Let Us Cling Together.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:34:41 2013 No.331870 File: 96 KB, 640x480, 66-Breath_of_Fire_IV_02474.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>331810 well they sir did not pull any punches >Still all the same BoF4 was an awesome game. hell yeah it was

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:36:41 2013 No.331892 What about those kids that get killed in FF4 outright? Am I just misremembering that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:36:41 2013 No.331893 >>331853 You gonna kill these defenseless people or fight for them bro? >Fight for them Your a Backstabbing POS >Kill them all You're a Monster no better than XY Man that shit hurt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:37:41 2013 No.331904 >>331854 I'd love to own a repro of this but apparently the translation patch doesn't agree with the SNES. Causes the title screen to glitch out a bit apparently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:38:41 2013 No.331913 >>331676 Seconded. Btw. am I the only person that thinks that Alundra is superior to every Zelda game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:39:41 2013 No.331920 >>331893 >First time playing >Want that hot chick in my party >Naturally side with her thinking it's the best option >mfw she dies then

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:40:41 2013 No.331929 >>331892 They get revived.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:41:41 2013 No.331945 >>331920 oh god then the mother of all choices, if you go down this route. Your Kingdom's Pride or your Sister. FUCK

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:44:41 2013 No.331974 >>329103 I recall Alundra killing off like 20+ NPCs, some of which were very likeable. Also one guy being an alcoholic because his daughter had developed schizophrenia, even muttering about it not being his fault.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:44:41 2013 No.331976 I feel like I'm opening a can of shitstorm by asking this but: Illusion of Gaia is an RPG? There are no RPG elements as far as I remember unless you count having a lot of story as one.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:44:41 2013 No.331978

>>331913
Alundra was good, great even. Worth two replays if not 3. But yeah, everyone in the village dying from their dreams, you are the only savior since you are the dreamwalker. But then at the point of the game you feel sorry for the demons...Seriously needs a remake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:47:41 2013 No.332000 >>331974 I'm in the part where everyone's accusing me of causing their deaths. The dungeon where you get the mermaid boots is pissing me off because of one room that's a race past all these spiked balls. Any tips for that?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:47:41 2013 No.332008

>>331976
It was an action rpg, similar on zelda's design. you could upgrade your life and then you had your different Persona (The Knight). So it had elements but would i call it a RPG yea in the general sense you were experiencing a story through the eyes of a silent protag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:48:41 2013 No.332021 >>331976 It's an RPG in the same sense the old Zelda games are. It would be more accurate to call them adventure games with RPG elements. >>331978 The guy that takes you in and keeps you safe in the village.. man why did that have to happen?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:50:41 2013 No.332041

>>329103
There's something I REALLY like about Illusion of Gaia. The events just really make me feel things more than in most games. The first time I played this game I was a kid and English not being my first language I doubt I even got half of the dialogue. I played it later as an adult and it just blew my mind. I wish games these days had dialogue that felt as unique.

I also played Terranigma but didn't like it as much somehow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:51:41 2013 No.332050 >>332021 Idk man, now thinking about it why did i have to set an old god on fire? All he wanted was to be worshiped again, and possibly take over the world. and then that fuckin Priest....

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:51:41 2013 No.332056 >>332008 Will had dialogue though. He wasn't silent.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:51:41 2013 No.332059

>>331913
It's not really a JRPG but yeah. Alundra is probably as dark as it gets without being morbid. I just bought it again after eons, got a complete copy with a world map and everything, can't wait to sink my teeth into it again. It's my favourite PSX game right after Monster Rancher 2.

>You will never have a bro like Jess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy652Bz95w8

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:52:41 2013 No.332063 >>332056 I stand corrected its been a while since i played IoG. BTW can we put secret of Evermore on this list?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:52:41 2013 No.332070

>>332056
Let me just add that I really dig that. I personally don't like it when they make the protagonist silent so you can identify with him. It just doesn't work. I'd rather have him as one of the cast members.

Not saying silent protagonist can't work because it can but I just prefer the alternative.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:55:41 2013 No.332106

>>331974
The thing with Alundra was that there were no unnecessary NPCs, everyone got their moment on stage. Everyone had their moment under the spotlight allowing you to really bond with or really hate that character before the game commanded monkeys to feast on their entrails. It's a kind of narrative we don't see enough of these days, and I miss it. Alundra was a fine example of how to write a game properly.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:56:41 2013 No.332116

>>330674
Is there any thread Vagrant Story retards won't shit up with their incessant proselytizing? You are worse than Dark Souls fanboys at posting in every thread constantly. We get it, you love boring, shitty RPG's with the ugliest graphics imaginable. It has nothing to do with the thread or half the threads you retards ruin with you unbelievable garbage. No one likes Vagrant Story, it's just a lame bandwagon underage dumbasses jumped on to look retro.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:01:41 2013 No.332163

>>332106
Then they made Alundra 2 which is completely unrelated.
>>332050
Fucking Ronin was an asshole from the get-go. As for Melzaz, he had it coming for the way he insisted on coming back.
It's the same principle in Rise of the Guardians with Pitch Black. They could've existed safely without having people hunting them down if they were just happy enough to be believed in. But no complete domination or nothing was all they wanted. And Melzaz killed people so fuck him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:05:41 2013 No.332198 File: 386 KB, 603x535, 1328061909110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tastes like chicken

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:06:41 2013 No.332214

>Then they made Alundra 2 which is completely unrelated.
What does that have to do with anything I said? It is universally a accepted fact that Alundra 2 is not a an Alundra game. I personally enjoy it but I probably would have enjoyed it more if it was called "Flint the pirate hunter's One Piece adventure in weaboo land" or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:07:41 2013 No.332223 >>332214 Forgot to link. >>332163

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:07:41 2013 No.332224 File: 36 KB, 576x416, 1329941749578.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The smell of roasting Hamlet fills the air

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:09:41 2013 No.332241 >>332163 Man i need to replay Alundra again. god that game was genius. It is sad the Alundra 2 was shit, have no idea why i bought it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:10:41 2013 No.332250 >>332198 OH SHIT FUCK DON'T EAT IT FEI YOU RETARD ELLIE YOU DUMB WHORE PUT IT DOWN

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:11:41 2013 No.332263 File: 21 KB, 640x480, 7-thelast30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>332250 don't tell them that. Let them eat more. Man Citan's an asshole

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:12:41 2013 No.332269
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I kinda want a game with an absurd amount of dialogue choices but all it affects is the dialogue itself because fuck having to pick a certain choice because it affects something later in the game that you want to do.

Like I mean just for fun. Choices like in the image. Legaia 2 had some of those but could have used a lot more. Also it's not /vr/ material so enough about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:13:41 2013 No.332286 >>332106 Alundra was made by the same guys who made Landstalker and Dark Saviour, both great games. Especially Dark Saviour, that doppleganger story was fucking scary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:14:41 2013 No.332304 >>332286 Man DS has been in my backlog for so long. I really need to just play it right now without hesitation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:16:41 2013 No.332317 File: 6 KB, 400x400, 1324376818940.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>332224

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:17:41 2013 No.332327

>>332304
I played that game till my eyes bled and fucking loved every second of it.
Love the intro that sets you on each stories path depending on how fast you get to the bridge.
Hell there was even a battle mode if you spents 10mins fucking around then lost to Bilano's clone.
Each story was interesting and the doppleganger story is still one of the most fucking evil and fucked up stories ive come up against.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:17:41 2013 No.332328 >>332214 Nothing specific about what you said other than that Alundra was a great game, and they had the nerve to make something like Alundra 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:18:41 2013 No.332337 >>332328 Oh, sorry about that. My /v/ defensive reflexes kicked in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:21:41 2013 No.332353 >>332041 Fuck are you me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:21:41 2013 No.332361 >>332337 Easy friend, this isnt /v/ we are not massive faggots who cry about stupid shit and talk about everything but games. We all have to learn to lower those barriers and just enjoy some classic games. Anyone every play Brain Lord?.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:21:41 2013 No.332363 >>332327 Okay, I'm going to play it right now. But if this ruins my enjoyment of Alundra by being superior in every facet I'm going to use my Navy Seal privileges to wipe your miserable ass from the face of the continent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:23:41 2013 No.332375 >>332361 The fucking black rooms, i loved the game though,the music and the puzzles

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:23:41 2013 No.332380 >>331654 Fuck me that's beutiful

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:24:41 2013 No.332386 >>332363 They are all equal in greatness since they are all made by the same game makers. But personally I enjoyed Dark Saviour because I liked Landstalker so much. Alundra is a close second though.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:24:41 2013 No.332390

>>329103 (OP)

>darkest JRPG ever?

Hardly. Actually was replaying it a month ago out of coincidence

Music was very spooky. The Inca ship where everyone is dead after you wake up from that very eery dream creeped me out as a kid. It had some very memorable moments of course that sort of were ingrained if you played it a child.

But yeah it's nowhere near in depth in terms of story/gameplay/characters as many other RPG's were at the time like the more maintream choices such as SoM/FFIV/FFV/FFVI/SoE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:25:41 2013 No.332401 File: 21 KB, 1280x1024, 803240523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>329103 No, this is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:25:41 2013 No.332402 >>332357 >final fantasy >"we must save the earth crystals XD" >depth

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:26:41 2013 No.332408 Alundra was pretty dark although it was more similar to Zelda than a classic RPG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:26:41 2013 No.332414 File: 12 KB, 340x363, tfb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>332401

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:30:41 2013 No.332447 >>332401 Kaze no Riguretto isnt a RPG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:33:41 2013 No.332485 >>332263 I forget where, but I saw a compiled list of all the times he was a dick. One of which was a list of all of the bosses that he could have helped with that he didn't. One of which was going on right in front of him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:41:41 2013 No.332570 File: 64 KB, 800x379, asshole.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>332485 right here http://lparchive.org/Xenogears-%28by-The-Dark-Id%29/Citan/ some of this stuff man. Holy shit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:53:41 2013 No.332682
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>>332375
I want to see more modern JRPGs that take after Song of Ice and Fire in terms of dark themes.

Murder, incest, homely-looking heroes and grey-grey morality would be amazing in a Final Fantasy game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:59:41 2013 No.332736 Phantasy Star 2 Everything you do in the plot goes horribly wrong or with really shitty consequences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:00:41 2013 No.332743 >>332682 I thought Song of Ice and Fire reminded me of Fire Emblem 4 quite a bit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:05:41 2013 No.332802
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A bit late on this but

>all this Alundra love

Fuck yes you've brightened up my day /vr/, have some Inoa

>>332059

I remember buying this game when it came out. That fucking map was amazing on the bus ride home.

I didn't beat it until years later because young me was stumped somewhere in Nirude's Lair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:07:41 2013 No.332819 >>332802 Man it had an amazing OST too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYcJJN3K9w Is pretty god tier.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:14:41 2013 No.332907

>>332802
I'm so glad I finally have a place to hang out that appreciates the greatness that is Alundra.

I love you guys, for realzies. No homo. Much homo.

Also
>dat Nirude fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=04WUS6PTXPM#t=15s

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:58:41 2013 No.333307 >>332116 >the game was too hard for me, therefore it sucks! hehehehehehe

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:04:41 2013 No.333369

I found Wild Arms 4 to be a bit messed up as well. People die left and right including the main character's mother, you discover tons of little fucked up facts about most of the people you meet, even the villains(one was killed for being a huge perv apparently), another only had power because the girl accompanying had blood that gave him those powers(he was also the only thing keeping her in check, when he dies she goes apeshit and damn near rips a hole in time itself.) And in the end, the ending is bittersweet at best.

Its my fave WA cause of that, a shame 5 had such a horrible main character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:11:41 2013 No.333430 File: 43 KB, 320x450, virginia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>333369 >a shame 5 had such a horrible main character. eh Dean was alright. Ill take enthusiastic dip shit over angst ridden twat any day Virginia Fucking Maxwell is best hero

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:14:41 2013 No.333464 >>331801 this or SMT2

>>	Glucagon Tue Apr 2 16:15:41 2013 No.333475 >>333369 It really more felt like bad writing rather than an actual attempt at creating something genuinely somber.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:17:41 2013 No.333494 >>332116 Hey, the graphics are actually really nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:18:41 2013 No.333498 >>331801 What happens after the SMT1 neutral ending, exactly? I heard he was betrayed by the heroine and killed in a cave-in by messians, but I'm not sure where that comes from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:29:41 2013 No.333592 >>333475 The regular story? Or do you mean the ending?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:51:41 2013 No.333774 >>333430 Agreed Virginia was awesome. I didn't think Jude was angst ridden, he knew part of the games issues where his fault and manned the fuck up and took responsibility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 16:56:41 2013 No.333827 >>333498 play smt2 to find out

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:15:41 2013 No.334007 >>331028 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNBTGeWUmj8 Why are you using a tripcode?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:19:41 2013 No.334052 >>332361 >Anyone every play Brain Lord?. I loved Brain Lord when I was a kid. I can barely remember it though.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:39:41 2013 No.334218

>>329938
Mana Khemia? Really? I started on that about a month ago and got tired of it around the third game week because of how it looked like it was going to be another really shallow, cheery Gust JRPG. Does the game greatly change in tone as it goes on?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:42:41 2013 No.334249 >>334218 Mana Kheima is amazing you nigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:44:41 2013 No.334264 >>334218 Let's just say that if you're not crying by the end of the game, you're a failure at emotions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:50:41 2013 No.334323 >>331447 wut? Where's that from?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:56:41 2013 No.334376

I was playing secret of mana for the snes with my friend and we got half way through it, he moved away tho 6 months ago and I havnt touched it since because none of my other friends want to join in on it, do I continue alone? or just forget about it :(, he was the only friend who knows about my retro game collection..every one else smokes pot and parties so I never bring it up or I else I might aswell say goodbye to getting laid. Man I really want to finish that game :(

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:59:41 2013 No.334404

>>333430
I was going through Wild Arms 3 a few months ago. PCSX2 somehow stuffed up on me and reverted my saves and savestates back about 4 hours. I kind of lost my motivation to keep going with it then, which is a shame, because I was really liking it. That game has great dungeon design.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:15:41 2013 No.334543 >>334404 just launch the game n your save, then, let the retro-magical motivation make the rest. the hardest step is the first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:22:41 2013 No.334603 >>332682 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftnySHVnF0 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lE2ns_vUY I would play this if it was a real game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:23:41 2013 No.334607 >>331568 I seem to remember seeing that. Was it in the UK version?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:25:41 2013 No.334636 >>334607 I played the UK version. No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:27:41 2013 No.334647 >>334636 God damn what the fuck am I remembering then? I remember Fou-Lou stabbing some fucker on the stairs towards the end of the game.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:42:41 2013 No.334768
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>>331870
>>331810
>>331656
>>331378
BoF4 was an incredible game. Dat 2d character art, so beautiful. Greatest soundtrack ever or greatest soundtrack? One of the only game OSTs I bother keeping in my collection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIkmFSrLIaE&feature=share&list=PL9349EE19790F16C3

But yeah, I was REALLY upset when the Emperor just fucking flew off and that was it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:43:41 2013 No.334785 >>329139 I can't stop listening to this. I've been doing so since it was posted. It's like a mix of NIghtwish and Castlevania.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:45:41 2013 No.334793 >>332401 Oh you little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:51:41 2013 No.334847 >>332736 > I wonder what the people will see, in their final days

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:57:41 2013 No.334909
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>>334647
You're mistaken. Lord Yuna never gets his. He spirits away right at the moment Cray talks to Nina's sister. Then they have the balls to end this game with this image during the credits. Rage was had.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:06:41 2013 No.335006 >>332570 Oh shit. Reading the whole list of that is pretty nuts. It's been a long time so I just remember feeling betrayed because he knew Fei's past and could have helped out more but this. Wow.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:14:41 2013 No.335082
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>>334647

that was the emperor

Fou ripped his head off. Funny part is that even in his crazed swath of destruction he was just gonna let the guy go. It wasn't until he tried to stab him with the Dragon Slayer that he incurred god's wrath

you should check out the manga it's pretty cool

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:16:41 2013 No.335096

>>334909

Think you're confusing Yuna with the Emperor.

Here's the original version of the scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxovNUKjJA

Other couple of deleted scenes include the girls taking a bath offscreen and Ursula offering to take off her pants when getting the boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVZXLC7xeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27zKq7BIv-Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:18:41 2013 No.335107 File: 679 KB, 640x4466, 1354734861583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>334909 thing is it makes sense for Yuna to get away in the grand scheme of the series timeline 4 is the earliest because Yuna creates Myria have some cut content

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:19:41 2013 No.335128
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>>335107

it is silly that some of this shit got cut but only the emperor's death was especially jarring. the others where just stupid pervy crap that if someone didn't tell you about you wouldn't even notice where gone

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:21:41 2013 No.335150 File: 553 KB, 512x3336, 1354735267197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>335128 Ursula's a goddamn boss. ZERO FUCKS GIVEN!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:24:41 2013 No.335182 File: 25 KB, 172x350, ursula no fcks given.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>335150 http://www.viddler.com/v/411d4975 greatest scene in JRPG history zero fucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:26:41 2013 No.335208 >>334847 Which is why people must play the games in order to get the full "feels" effect 4 gives. I wish the whole evil people from earth subplot was expanded on a bit in 4. 3 kinda touches on it in one of the endings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:27:41 2013 No.335215 File: 46 KB, 640x480, 58-Breath_of_Fire_IV_01696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>334768 the emperor still got killed in the english version they just did some lame fade to black implied death type of thing I really fucking love Ursula

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:28:41 2013 No.335231

>>331546
>>331546

Speaking of BOF2, someone please remind me: Was it actually possible to pick a party member to be killed down in ice hell?
I remember having read a guide and knowing the hidden way out of it, but there was this insane buildup where you were forced to talk to everyone as if it were their last day, with some of them actually begging you to choose them out of false bravado.

The lousy translation made things even slightly more weird and disturbing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:31:41 2013 No.335257 >>335231 I think you just get a game over or something.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:03:41 2013 No.335580
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>>335096
>confusing Yuna with the Emperor
Shit, you're right. It's been years, man.

>>335107
>>335128
>>335150
Crazy. I remember seeing these posted a long time ago, and mixed them in with my memories of playing the game. I was thinking that bath scene was definite in there. Shit.

>>335215
>I really fucking love Ursula
Me too, man, me too.

>>335231
>pick a party member to be killed down in ice hell?
You mean before the final battle? Yeah, you got the typical BoF bad ending. Wonderful translation job on that one, eh? I liked how weapons and items had like a seven character max name; everything was "GrassSd" and "FirWand".

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:08:41 2013 No.336352 File: 126 KB, 900x528, c20456d54eb463aae45da111784555da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >BOFIV FUCK YUNA

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:20:41 2013 No.336501 File: 167 KB, 256x363, soul nomad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If we're talking dark JRPGs, you really can't discount this one based on it not being retro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:32:41 2013 No.336680 >>336352 Thanks for that. Feels good, even after all this time. >>336501 >not being retro what board are you on, son?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:44:41 2013 No.336838 >>335107 Wait WHAT. Breath of Fire has a time line? Seriously? Does anyone know how it goes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:47:41 2013 No.336890 >>331479 lol'd. it's kinda true

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:49:41 2013 No.336921 >>329103 Enix sure made top tier games back then. I loved that game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:52:41 2013 No.336943 File: 671 KB, 1024x768, vagrantstory.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are you even trying /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:53:41 2013 No.336962 >>330657 >hamlet fucking niggers!

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:54:41 2013 No.336971

>>336838
It's loose and mostly fan speculation. But the whole idea of Yuna creating monsters and gods and shit, and so he possible created Myria, making 3 before 4.

But then I've also heard good reasoning for 4 leading into Dragon Quarter. The world is turning into desert, poisoned by the Carronade hexes, monsters are multiplying, fast forward years and years later and everyone has moved underground.

I see them all as individual games, myself. There's no real point to be gained from trying to make them into a cohesive timeline (see: Zelda timeline nerds).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:54:41 2013 No.336978 >>336943 That game had the strangest combat system. I loved the art style so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:54:41 2013 No.336980 >>336921 back when there was a fucking Enix. we're getting old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:55:41 2013 No.336989 >>336980 Yeah! Imagine being brought up on todays games though. Jeezus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 21:55:41 2013 No.336995 >>331028 Please tell me more

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:01:41 2013 No.337058 >>334603 >>332682 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo3_L6XdREE after this came out you can't expect much

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:02:41 2013 No.337072 >>336980 >>336921 >enix it was quintet, a subdivision of enix

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:04:41 2013 No.337091 >>337072 quintet = developer enix = publisher

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:06:41 2013 No.337118
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>>336995

there's not really a lot to say

the big evil god gets unsealed fucks up the world something fierce before getting sealed again when Arc and Kukuru sacrifice themselves

the game that followed Arc 3 was much MUCH sillier in tone and it was very very welcome

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:10:41 2013 No.337148 >>334323 that isn't necessarily true. it was a vision that you see along the way to get the stoneslolstones to power-up

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:11:41 2013 No.337152

>>331629
>To go through all that, to finally hold your love in your arms then die in the cold dead of space just to be reborn and not even remember one another.

They don't die in space. They return to Earth and forget their previous lives, but it turns out they're in the same school anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:11:41 2013 No.337154 >>331412 >He rolls into town and demands treasure. not just ANY treasure...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:12:41 2013 No.337171 >>337091 and the developer MAKES the games

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:19:41 2013 No.337227 File: 19 KB, 400x472, hayashida.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>332401 >Solid color >jpg >21kb

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:23:41 2013 No.337267 >>337227 dat alpha channel

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:10:41 2013 No.337801 >>336838 1-3 are connected. (same world for the most part) 4 and 5 aren't, though there's been some attempts to connect the former.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:39:41 2013 No.338034 File: 272 KB, 750x750, 4180789a9faada6d8b3e1ff400eb285f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>337801 4 is pretty likely connected. Especially if you want to buy into the whole Yuna creating the gods thing.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:41:41 2013 No.338061
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>>336971
>There's no real point to be gained from trying to make them into a cohesive timeline (see: Zelda timeline nerds).

Oh come on know you can work it out way easier than that bull shit. It's not like they ever tried to imply that the Ryu's and Nina's where the same guy.

the only real recurring character is Deis and based on her lack of a tangible body in 4 it's safe to say she didn't get nagafied yet. Witch is something that can also be easily blamed on Yuna.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:48:41 2013 No.338130 >>336971 the zelda timeline is a but different in that some installments seem to do everything in their power to make lining them up chronologically literally impossible.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:50:41 2013 No.338156

>>335208
It's a time loop, Dark Force finds it's way into Algol system after being sent into being by the Profound Darkness and takes control of Earthlings escaping their planet. Said Earthlings manage to travel to Parma and stowaway or join the crew of the ship with Dark Force inside them. Then Dark Force causes havoc to increase its' own power aboard the ship. In the ending where it makes it to Earth in the past, it catalyzes the cycle by befouling the minds of the Earthlings, forcing them to destroy Earth and flee to Algol system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:20:41 2013 No.338430 >>329796 capcom's awful translation butchered the darkness of the game into engrish hilarity. I'd agree otherwise, but gotta give it to ff6, though xenogears was pretty fucking dark later on too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:23:41 2013 No.338454 Arc the Lad 2's ending twist was pretty dark. Much of the world in 3 is in ruins, except for a few towns.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:24:41 2013 No.338467 another bad one is fire emblem 4 for darkness. halfway through the game you have allies dieand eventually get betrayed yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:25:41 2013 No.338482 >>338467 eh that kind of thing is pretty par

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:40:41 2013 No.338625

>>338482
I'll elaborate since he gave a pretty shitty description.
One of your former allies and the main character's closest friends, Arvis, betrays Sigurd (the MC), leading you and all of your units into a trap. You also find out that Sigurd's wife, who had been taken prisoner earlier in the story, has had her memories erased, and is now married to Arvis, who is her brother. Arvis then has Sigurd and all of the characters you've come to love in the game so far executed, and the second half of the game takes place seventeen years later, and follows the children of your characters from the first half.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 01:02:41 2013 No.338809 >>338625 okay yeah, that's pretty goddamn brutal

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 01:15:41 2013 No.338915 >>334218 I don't think Mana Khemia is that dark and the darkest part is derpy. But Mana Khemia is the best. It doesn't explode into world-shaking scale for no damned reason, and the combat mechanics get sick as fuck halfway through the game.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 08:10:41 2013 No.341342

Wild Arms 2 was pretty depressing as well. The whole incest thing, too.

HAMLET, NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Xenogears had /wrist moments

Final Fantasy VI, of course. The part where Celes has to take care of Cid comes most prominently to mind.

Terranigma was pretty fucking depressing as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 08:16:41 2013 No.341370 >>338625 Sounds like a SaGa

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 08:43:41 2013 No.341486 >>336943 I can't take this shit serious when half of the male cast is wearing women's clothes

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 08:47:41 2013 No.341502

>>338130
>the zelda timeline is a but different in that some installments seem to do everything in their power to make lining them up chronologically literally impossible.

They fucked it up by making OoT a prequel to LttP and then making two sequels to OoT, WW and TP, that were totally inconsistent with LttP *and* each other. Thus the three branches.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 08:56:41 2013 No.341541

As far as the Zelda conversation goes, none of the games are related to each other. I take each one in a vacuum as a different story entirely. They're a collection of tales, similar in ways and different in others, like creation stories from around the world this is a hero story that changes depending on its origin.

An islander culture will obviously have more sailing involved in their story, a feudal state has more princesses and gallantry, a post-industrial society has independent freedom and trains, etc. Just my 2 rupees.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 09:02:41 2013 No.341562 >>341541 Completely agreed, it's how I've always looked at the series. It's just variations on a theme, and Nintendo is silly for trying to retcon everything into a ridiculous 3-branch timeline.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 15:09:41 2013 No.343787 >>341541 >none of the games are related to each other. well that's not true one and two are certainly related

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 19:40:41 2013 No.346495
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Exile for Genesis rings clear as one of the darkest RPGs I've noticed from the 90's.

Seriously, this shit got real fucking grim, and even though you kill the big thing that orchesetrated everything, everything is just fucked.

Your childhood friend/potential lover is torn apart by demons, you are stuck wandering in the past, find out all religions are a farce, there is no ultimate artifact that will save the world, everyone you know and tried to protect back in the present will be murdered horribly in the crusades. You forever wander the desert lamenting the rest of your days knowing war will forever be a thing.

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:03:41 2013 No.346674

>>338809

Of note is that this happens on screen - they're led through a procession, betrayed, then mages drop meteors on your army until there's nothing left - then your main character tries to go toe to toe with the guy who betrayed him, and he gets blown the fuck up.

This happens via the game's usual battle system - not just a cutscene.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 20:04:41 2013 No.346684 >>334376 dude just finish it before you forget what was going on, if you make another friend who likes old games you can start Secret of Evermore or River City Ransom or something with them

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:05:41 2013 No.347196 >>346674 If you somehow aren't spoiled about it, it's a really impactful scene. Alvis and Trabant are both heroes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:58:41 2013 No.350018 >>346495 Wasn't that game on the TurboGrafx? Maybe the TGCD? I remember playing something like that that wasn't on the the Genesis.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:14:41 2013 No.352790

>>350018
The game was part of a series of like 3 diffrent games, I believe it was the XYZ series, but I only recall Exile ever being localized into english, and even then they totally fucked up on it because they coded something wrong that increases the shit out of the enemy attack strength after a short ways into the game so the game is almost as hellish as it's conclusion.

But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the series was on the PCengine/Turbografx.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:19:41 2013 No.352826 >>329146 This. The first SMT is the darkest thing I've ever fucking played. Though you gotta follow a guide or else you can fuck it up and legitimately break the game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 12:23:41 2013 No.352852 >>352826 Apparently there's a new patch so that doesn't happen anymore. Though even on the old one, I played SMTI without a guide and I only got stuck at the octopus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 13:10:41 2013 No.353205 >>352852 Well damn, might be time for a replay.

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