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3288789 No.3288789 [Reply] [Original]

Did you know Master System outsold NES in South Korea (the good Korea)?

Proof - http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Third_generation_of_video_games

>> No.3288794

wouldn't be surprised if it outsold the nes in australia

>> No.3288795

Well, yeah. The Master System was pretty much the perfect console for uncivilized countries.

>> No.3288798

>>3288789
More evidence Korea>Japan

>> No.3288850

It outsold the NES in just about every region besides the US and Japan.
>>3288794
It did. By a lot.

>> No.3288858

>>3288794
Oh yeah, the megadrive outsold the Snes by quite a bit too. The only really big success nintendo had here with home consoles was the wii, the 64 did pretty average.

>> No.3288859

>>3288850
Wonder how well the other Sega consoles did in S. Korea then.

>> No.3288902

>>3288789
>the good korea
gtfo korean, there is no "good korea"

>> No.3288930

Ok, that's in "good" Korea, but what about best Korea?

Also, who cares (other than australia-kun)

>> No.3288972

>>3288789
Korea hates Japan though.

They probably saw NES was more popular in Japan, and sided with Sega out of spite.

>> No.3289002

>>3288789
>http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Third_generation_of_video_games
also in the whole of western europe

UK here. I only knew one guy with a nes, it was shit compared to the master system. Me and most of my friends either had a master system or a computer

>> No.3289004

>>3289002
>or a computer

Poor bastards still playing single-screen games and 0 japanese games.

>> No.3289026

>>3289004
What? In 1987? You're an idiot. There were scrolling games on the C64 before the Master System was even released. But by 1987 the Atari ST and Amiga were both two years old. Do you know anything of what you're talking about? And there were ports of most arcade hits from Japan.
>>3289002
The Nes was more popular in the Netherlands.

>> No.3289028

>>3288972
That actually sounds reasonable enough.

>> No.3289032

>>3289026
>And there were ports of most arcade hits from Japan.

Most of which were handled by amateurish euro devs, sadly.

>> No.3289045

>>3289032
>muh million times folded Japanese games

>> No.3289048

>>3289032
Look, you've already made a complete fool of yourself. Just stop now and don't make it worse. Ok?

>> No.3289054

>>3289048

Not the same anon, but I had to suffer through bad ports of japanese games on Amiga.

At the time, I didn't know better, but when I finally played the arcade originals (and their console ports), is when I realized I was playing really bad ports.

>> No.3289058

>>3289054
Yes, bad ports exist. But that goes for every home console except the Neo Geo.

>> No.3289064

>>3289058

Yeah but those were the majority on western computers.

Not because of bad hardware, but because of incompetent devs, and bad communication between the japanese companies and the european devs.
A shame really.

Consoles definitely got a much better deal when it came to japanese arcade ports, mainly because they were made in-house and not outsourced, even if there were different teams making the games, they had access to anything they'd need including consulting the original arcade devs. Euro devs often had to recur to taking still pictures of arcade games or watching video footage and then try to copy it from scratch, that was the case most of the times.

>> No.3289070

>>3289064
There were good ports on the Mega Drive and, to an extent, the Master System, but other than those two there weren't any consoles with a good strike rate. Also, the good arcade ports on the MD/MS were Sega games to begin with.

>> No.3289079

>>3289070

Street Fighter II had decent ports on both SNES and MD. I know, not arcade perfect, but pretty damn functional, and it was a best-seller in both consoles.

Compare that to the Amiga port (which is the one I had as a kid), or the DOS port.

Again, it's not about hardware, it's more about japanese developers (in this case, Capcom) not giving a shit about their western PC ports.

>> No.3289085

>>3289079
The Amiga was four years older than the Mega Drive and five years older than the Snes.

>> No.3289086

>>3289085

But IBM clone PCs in the early 90s were not, and they still did a shit job at it.
Again, it's not about hardware.

>> No.3289087

>>3289086
Give an example. Which PCs are you talking about?

>> No.3289092

>>3289087

The ones that got this port:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbrwlyKILXU

>> No.3289106

>>3289092
Which ones?

>> No.3289112

>>3289106
>IBM clone PCs in the early 90s

386, 486, etc

Anyway, I'll repeat myself again: it's not about hardware. These computers could run Doom and Duke Nukem, but got awful ports like SFII due to bad western devs and negligence from Capcom.

>> No.3289117

>>3289112
They were about as bad as the Snes port, which is pretty bad, as they suffered from the same problem. Slow CPUs.

>> No.3289119

I've never knew anyone in Spain (where I live at least) that had a NES. Haven't even seen a single one in second hand stores.

>> No.3289120
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3289120

>>3289117

No, IBM clone PCs later got an actual good port of SSFIIT on Windows.

It's not about the hardware, it's about the shitty developers who did bad jobs when porting japanese games to western PCs 99% of the time.

>> No.3289121

>>3289120
Just saying it doesn't make it true. What year are you even talking about with this port?

>> No.3289126

>>3289121

1992 for the DOS port, 1994 for the Windows port of Turbo.

Why are you so reluctant to admit japanese devs didn't give a shit about western computers? You keep asking me irrelevant questions in an attempt to prove me wrong when the proof is on the videos. Watch the video I posted of the DOS port, it's shit. Doesn't matter the year or the CPU speed, the port job was bad.

>> No.3289127

>>3289028
SEGA consoles were SAMSUNG branded in s korea apparently for this same reason

>> No.3289129

>>3289126
Well, that is after my time so I'm not sure. I didn't say the nips gave a shit, I said that not all the ports were bad.

>> No.3289147

>>3289002
I'm from another euro country and old enough to remember those days, always remember that Nintendo was kinda the brand associated with rich kids while SEGA was perceived more affordable (due to the fact that the distribution was with the biggest toy chain here, meaning more special offers, I still remember somehow during the ealry 90s they gave away Master Systems with Alex Kidd built in for the equivalent of 20 €), more edgy and more for teens. I dont say it's true, just saying that the advertising worked, they choosed the right testimonials while Nintendo tended to simply showing the games.
But anyway nothing was more popular than C64

>> No.3289204 [DELETED] 

>>3289048
You'd have to be pretty thick not to admit how most ports of japanese games for the 80's western computers were.

And for the most part it was them just biting more than they could chew, a lot of those games were impossible to have a good port given the hardware.

And a lot of them were still technically pretty impressive, but it still didn't translate into a good game.

>> No.3289206

>>3289048
You'd have to be pretty thick not to admit how bad most ports of japanese games for the 80's western computers were.

And for the most part it was them just biting more than they could chew, a lot of those games were impossible to have a good port given the hardware.

And a lot of them were still technically pretty impressive, but it still didn't translate into a good game.

>> No.3289940

>>3288789
It actually sold better than Saturn and DC worldwide too.

>> No.3289993

FACT: the NES/SNES was bigger in all the countries that matter

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3290004

>>3288789

>the good Korea

Wow, apparently Juche used to be a lot more liberal, they allowed video games back then?

>> No.3290035

>>3289993
Donald Trump is that you?

>> No.3290045

>>3288795

What made it perfect for the uncivilized?

>> No.3290094

>>3290045
Because Y-YOU'RE A PIG GUY

>> No.3290285

>>3289993
Well no. OP already told you the NES was outsold by the MasterSystem in South Korea.

>> No.3290865

>>3288789
Course it did. Its a great console.

>> No.3290885

>>3289127
It's weird, the Game Boy was the Hyundai Mini Comboy and the Master System was the Samsung Gam*Boy.

>> No.3290935

>>3289206
Most of the bad ports were done simply because developers just didn't give a shit. U.S. Gold was notorious for their abysmal ports, they were Koei Tecmo levels of bad. Here's one Jap game that had a damn good port to the Amiga, courtesy of Ocean. Yes, THAT Ocean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvA7DBk0PY

Though it could be a biased example since the Euros really, REALLY fucking loved this game. They also loved Twinbee too, much more than the Americans at least. The English also did a good conversion of it for the NES.

Another thing worth noting is that the ports were often outsourced thanks to our good friends at Nintendo outright denying them the right to port games for other consoles. I doubt Nintendo or any of the Japs for the matter cared about the Amiga, but Nintendo's licensing agreements forced them to keep games Nintendo exclusive for two years before they decide to touch them again. That is why some ports were published by other companies, to bypass this restriction.

>> No.3292284

>>3290885
Sega's console was called Gameboy in Korea?

>> No.3292474

>>3290935
Here's another good western computer port of a Japanese game; Silpheed for DOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D9s_5EUGYk

Apparently, the DOS version was a huge fucking deal.

>> No.3292554

>>3289119
I've never known anyone in Norway that had Sega hardware. Never saw any in stores either.

>> No.3292558

>>3290285
Like he said, countries that matter

>> No.3292879

>>3292284
Yeah, well, the Gam*Boy, but close enough. The Mega Drive was the Super Gam*Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhLke8LGZk

>> No.3293041

>>3292879
That's the real reason it sold well!

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3293424

>it's a "s-s-sega is better than Nintendo, s-see this irrelevant metric?" Thread

>> No.3293968

>>3293424
Says the guys whose IP is in North Korea.

>> No.3294035

>>3288972
korea bootlegged japanese games out of spite and they got mad when the japanese tried to stand their ground

im serious

>> No.3294837

>>3294035
I thought they bootlegged Japanese games because back then software wasn't protected by copyright in Korea, and, well, Japan made all the good games?

>> No.3296034

>>3288789
Also, Genesis outsold SNES in India.

>> No.3296362

>>3296034
[Citation Needed]

>> No.3296467

>>3296362
Genesis had an official release there while SNES didnt. Genesis won by default.