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[Anonymous No.3287720]

Beat'em up thread


Trivia: Why do you think Hannah is the worst character in the game? The answer is NOT obvious, trust me.

[Anonymous No.3287726]

>>3287720
Punching highschool girls is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.3287734]

>>3287726
I love that game.

[Anonymous No.3287742]

Hook (Irem)

Fun game.

Play the Japanese version. Way more colorful, and has this female boss instead of the Hook clones.

[Anonymous No.3287745]

>>3287720
I thought Hanna was the best cause she could do combos with weapons?
>>3287726
Arcade version was better.
>Dat final stage where the bad guys can kill you with one hit.

[Anonymous No.3287752]

>>3287745
>I thought Hanna was the best cause she could do combos with weapons?

Nope. It's pretty much unanimous that Hannah is the worst by far.

Hannah can combo with a knife only, but the knife is a mediocre weapon in this game.

[Anonymous No.3287773]

>>3287745
what is the HS girl's name?


i can't read japanese

[Anonymous No.3287786]

>>3287773
Underling B from Stage 3, but she was later named Kumiko in the FC version though.

[Anonymous No.3287787]

>>3287745
>>3287752
Hannah is the worst character.

>She has the worst reach overall (talking about all moves, not just her jab)
>Gets hit by air attacks the easiest due to lousy attack hit boxes that don't cover her head region. This can be a problem against the short niggas (the most annoying enemy in the game) on later levels.
>Her rolling attack is utterly worthless and gets you smacked all the time
>Comboing into her rolling attack does less damage than a normal combo so there's no reason to ever combo into it
>knee, knee, rolling attack does less damage than a regular knee, knee, throw so there's no reason to ever use it after a grab
>Her jump kick gets anti-aired due to a shitty hit box
>Her dashing knee is garbage and gets you smacked all the time

But none of those are the reason why she's the single worst character in the game.

[Anonymous No.3287791]

>>3287786
>tfw no fan art of kumiko


why

well at least we got to play as her in River City Sports Challenge.

[Anonymous No.3287794]

>>3287791
There's some, but since she's from the original Kunio-kun (Renegade), not much people care about her. It's mostly about the Downtown Nekketsu series.

[Anonymous No.3287797]

>>3287787
Why is she the worst?

[Anonymous No.3287818]

>>3287797
Punch, punch, punch, throw is the single most important technique in the game. Because it gives you massive invincibility, and does awesome crowd-clearing, and sets up wake-ups on downed enemies.

Every character can pull off the combo-to-throw technique 100% of the time...

...except Hannah.

She has something like a 30% chance of failing and her regular combo finisher will come out instead of a throw. So when you're in the thick of things and REALLY need that invincibility and crowd-clearing to get you out of trouble, her bug/feature can potentially fuck you over big time. Let's say that you're attacking enemies to one side, but an enemy is charging at you from behind. Normally, you'd simply buffer your combo into a throw to clear out all the enemies, but with Hannah there's a chance that the throw won't come out and you'll get blasted in the back (or from above, or whatever).

This is a really fucked up feature (or maybe a bug). It's completely random. It shows up on every enemy type. It has nothing to do with the frequency of your button presses or distance from enemies. Has nothing to do with the game's innate rage system, or your health, or whatever. It's just plain random.

[Anonymous No.3287821]

>>3287818
Is it even possible to 1cc using her?

[Anonymous No.3287829]

>>3287821
For sure, but it will be infuriating if you're heavily reliant on the combo-to-throw technique.

[Anonymous No.3287837]

>>3287818
>She has something like a 30% chance

It's actually more like a 15-20% chance, but still... it's horrible. Even a 5% chance would be bad.

[Anonymous No.3287849]

>>3287818
Sounds awful. Is there anything good about her?

[Anonymous No.3287869]

>>3287849
1) Normally, when you're holding a weapon and get hit by an enemy, you'll drop your weapon. Hannah doesn't drop her weapon when getting hit.

2) When using automatic guns she has a faster firing rate. Like 3 bullets for every 2 bullets from the other characters. Useful for knocking down enemies quicker, I guess.

3) She can combo with stabbing weapons (knives and broken planks).

That's about it. None of the above are that useful though.

[Anonymous No.3288373]

Return of Double Dragon is pretty fun but it looks unpolished. What a shame. It could've been one of the greats if the game were fleshed out more, because the combat is excellent.

[Anonymous No.3288386]

>>3288373
Return of Double Dragon was literally rush-release before it could properly be finished.
>No story and cutscenes. Not even a real ending.
>Stages with non-threatening hazards.
>The manual implies that Billy and Jimmy's styles were supposed to be even more different than they ended up being.
>Marian is in the manual (pic related) but she doesn't even show up once in the game.

Also, the ability to turn off friendly fire in the options mode would've been nice instead of the dated Mode A and B nonsense that makes no sense in a game with a join-in feature.

[Anonymous No.3288389]

>>3287818
>She has something like a 30% chance of failing and her regular combo finisher will come out instead of a throw.
Oh so it wasn't my controls or something, good to know.

[Anonymous No.3288985]

>>3288373
>>3288386
Yep. It's a shame. The mechanics are really fun and unique. The great could've been truly great.

[Anonymous No.3289021]

>>3288985
the game*

[Anonymous No.3289164]

>>3287818

Great post! I'm trying to 1ccthe game but I'm not even close at the moment (cannot go past boss 6). Could you explain what the "game's innate rage system means" though?

[Anonymous No.3289203]

>>3287818
>>3288389

Fuck good to know. Thought it was my controls.

[Anonymous No.3289234]

>>3289164
The rage system is really funky and there's practically no info about it anywhere, but this is what I know from my observations:

First of all, I know that it exists because when you start a new life (i.e. clean slate) you always do the same amount of damage (for example, Jack/Hannah/Mustapha always do an identical 1.0 damage, and Mess does around 1.25 damage). But as you progress and kill enemies and/or take more damage, you'll start noticing that your characters are doing way more damage.

The "rage" is activated (usually) as you do damage to enemies.

Once activated, you get a damage boost. Some moves seem to get a bigger boost than others. Sometimes, the throw from the combo-to-throw technique will do a crazy amount of damage.

While rage is activated, once you get hit, your rage will (usually) go back to point 0 and you have to build it up again. But sometimes, you can take an extra hit (or even more maybe) before it goes down, and very rarely, getting hit will actually boost your rage. There may be even more random elements.

Also, one more thing to keep in mind is that when you're low on health and your life bar starts flashing, then you will sometimes automatically get rage. If not, you need to build it up. But while your life bar is flashing the damage boost from rage is way higher than a normal rage.

One more thing about Hannah:

Her combo-to-throw failure actually does seem to depend a bit on the enemy type. For instance, she'll fail much more against bigger enemies, while she'll fail less on normal peons. That leads me to believe that it's an intentional design, kinda like how Haggar's grab has a 'random' duration before dropping the enemy.

[Anonymous No.3289270]

>>3289234

Wow, that's great! Very informative. If you have time/energy you should consider doing an faq or sth similar.

[Anonymous No.3291046]

>>3287742
1) Pick the little nigga Pockets

2) Do his jump attack

3) Do it like a million more times. on everything.

4) Do his ground and pound on downed enemies and bosses. mash the shit outta that button. Ralf Jones got nothing on this nigga.

5) Destroy everything.

[Anonymous No.3291060]

[Anonymous No.3291093]

>>3291060
>SOR3

>not SOR2

[Anonymous No.3291237]

>>3291060
That's a troll list, right?

[Anonymous No.3291319]

>>3291060
>console exclusive
>not the best

[Anonymous No.3291329]

Are we already done with the belt-scroller meme?


Gosh /vr/ sure does know when to let go of a joke. As expected of such a cool board.

[Anonymous No.3291331]

>>3291060

Night Slashers is awesome! Probably best animated 2D gore ever. Fun game too, started playing a week ago, will try to 1cc. I'm using Jake and any advice will be appreciated. Is the burring attack worth using?

[Anonymous No.3291354]

>>3289021
you just lost it

[Anonymous No.3291817]

>>3287720
I think you meant to say belt scroller.

[Anonymous No.3291821]

>>3291331
>burning attack
Can't remember what that is.

But Night Slashers is all about infinite jabs and grab exploits on bosses.

Some obscure info about that game:

Each character does more damage against specific types of enemies. For instance, cyborg dude is strong against those axe-wielding dudes and other baddies.

Each character gets a different amount of health depending on the food item. For instance, the vampire hunter gets more health from stews and cakes.

That weird "Stinger" item makes your next attack be a "critical". There are random critical attacks in the game.

[Anonymous No.3291979]

>>3291821

Wow, thanks! That's great info! Been wondering about what "Stinger" does. Now that you mention it, I did notice how that "commando zombie" that appears near the body bags part of the first level usually dies after just one hit. Now I know that's because I almost always pick up "Stinger" right before that punch.

>burning attack
Can't remember what that is.

Sorry, I mistyped that badly and made it unclear. What I meant was the aerial attack that you can use to hammer down your opponents into the ground and then crush their skulls. I use the charging attack a lot but I probably shouldn't rely to much on that.

Right now I got to that "Knight armor" sub boss on level 3, but I usually buy it right after him. I don't want to spoil the game for myself so I almost never continue. Can't wait to see what the third boss is like.

[Anonymous No.3292495]

>>3287786
best beat'em up girl

[Anonymous No.3292584]

>>3292495
She was kinda weak in the AC version though. You could kill her and her clones just by running into her.

[Anonymous No.3292597]

>>3292584
>tfw no highschool delinquent gf who would whip you with chains back in hs


why live

[Anonymous No.3292602]

>>3291331
>Is the burring attack worth using?

It's a pretty cool move, yeah.

[Anonymous No.3293283]

>>3291060

Why is Violent Storm sugar sprinkled? Sure it's is not the darkest game ever but Konami's Asterix would fit that description better.

Pity you can't get original colors of Violent Storm on MAME. I still remember how nice the game looked like on original hardware (had the arcade in my neighborhood as a kid).

[Anonymous No.3293687]

>>3287720
>cadillacs and dinosuars
> epic fucking name

[Anonymous No.3293723]

>>3287720
>Hannah's succulent butt cheeks
>using Hannah for the gameplay

[Anonymous No.3293775]

>>3292495

>that face

[Anonymous No.3293815]

>>3293775

[Anonymous No.3293821]

[Anonymous No.3294178]

like venom says


>RIG ROLL

[Anonymous No.3294195]

play ball