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I don't know about the rest of you, but I just beat Donkey Kong Country 3 and I for one, find it to be the best of the three kong games.

I legitimately enjoyed this more than the first two installments. What's with the general hate?

>> No.3284582

I generally hate the fact that you made this thread

>> No.3285309

Personally I don't hate it, I just find it lacking on all fronts when compared to the previous installments. Especially DKC2. The soundtrack is utterly forgettable, Kiddy plays like shit, the art direction feels completely off, the bears get old really fast and it's a bit too collectathony for its own good. Neat overworld, though, and I'll always have a soft spot for Baron K. Roolenstein.

>> No.3285315

>>3284421
we just had this thread. use the fucking catalog

>> No.3285474
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3285474

>Rareware shills still peddling this shit-the-bed of a game 40 years later

>> No.3285490

Nobody HATES it. Everyone feels it just isn't as good as 2. They're all amazing games in their own ways, but when asked at gunpoint, most people would probably say just 2>1>3.

>> No.3285494

>>3285490
wrong

i definitely hate it

>> No.3285498

>>3285474
>there are people who believe rare pays people to shill a 20 yo game that's played on a discontinued system on a mongolian fart processor assembly line forum

>> No.3285503

>>3285490
/thread

>> No.3285516

>>3285490
Why would 1 be ever considered better than 3? The gameplay, secrets and bosses in 1 are way lacking and less developed than 3

>> No.3285517

>>3285498
No one would believe that; that's the joke.

Jokes aside though I hope you do realize that there are real shills out there. It's not always something one can categorically dismiss.

And on an another note, it just occurred to me that I have no idea why King K Rool stole all of DK's banana hoard in the original DKC. Like what the fuck does an alligator want with a bunch of bananas? Does anyone know?

>> No.3285526

>>3285494
You don't even use capital letters when referring to yourself with an "i"
Therefore you don't value yourself and your opinion is void.

>> No.3285529

I'm with OP, I like 3 best. I love the music and level design, which is absolutely gorgeous. The overworld collecting stuff is an amusing addition, which gives the overworld a whole different value. I think people hate on it because when you replay it it gets annoying as you already know where the caves are and just have to do the simon says part.
Also I love all those "gimmicks", there's literally like one gimmick for every level. I'd played DKC2 before, and I loved the gimmicky levels, since you got to have some new obstacle to overcome. DKC3 had this for like every single level. How can people hate on that? That's fucking awesome! No level is predictable, every level you have to learn something new, and you even get a great learning curve for every new gimmick. And then it starts combining different kinds of gimmicks. Brilliant.

DKC3 is GOAT

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>>3285529
>No level is predictable, every level you have to learn something new, and you even get a great learning curve for every new gimmick. And then it starts combining different kinds of gimmicks. Brilliant.
That reminds me of another game I know.

>> No.3285567

>>3285517
Oh I'm not dismissing shills, not for a second. They're real and they're everywhere. I was just making fun of >>3285474 in case he wasn't joking.

As for the bananas, no idea. Aren't retro vidya plots so comfy in their borderline retarded simplicity?

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>>3285490
I genuinely hate DKC more than almost any other series. Every single game is absolute garbage. Rare is the single most overrated developer in video games.

>> No.3285576

>>3285573
Your head is absolute garbage.

>> No.3285593

>>3285576
Sorry, hombre. I just thought that >>3285490
should know that there's at least a handful of people who do hate these games, very much.

>> No.3285612

>>3285593
Why do you hate it? Strong word, you know.

>> No.3285627

>>3285612
Bad controls, uninspired platforming, awful characters, mediocre music. The games were created solely as a graphics showcase, and it shows. I didn't like them when they were new, so I'm not trying to be some contrarian, though I realize my opinion is in the minority within /vr/.

>> No.3285635

I hated DKC 3 because in order to get the highest percentage you have to enter a code prior to starting the game

How are you even supposed to know that back when the game was released?

>> No.3285638

>>3285627
>mediocre music
>I'm not trying to be contrarian

Bro

>> No.3285640

>>3285627
>Bad controls
Please explain. They seemed fine to me.

>uninspired platforming,
Uninspired, maybe, but at least it was solid platforming.

>awful characters,
Oh come on, Diddy and Dixie and Cranky are still great to this day. What is there to dislike about them?

>mediocre music.
Oh now I see, you're just trolling me.

>> No.3285664

>>3285640
- It's floaty and imprecise.
- It can't be solid because it controls so poorly.
- Those characters are so bad, DKC ruined the DK franchise entirely. It was a massive mistake to let Rare have their way with such an important IP, and DK has never recovered from it.
- The music is mediocre, I just don't care for it.
>>3285638
I think having differing tastes in music are the single thing that one can't be a contrarian about.

>> No.3285683

>>3285664
Okay then. I will never understand but whatever.

>> No.3285690

>>3285664
>I think having differing tastes in music are the single thing that one can't be a contrarian about.
Anon I hate Jazz, but you'll never hear me say Miles Davis is a mediocre artist.

>> No.3285704

>>3285683
It's OK to have different opinions, even on 4chan.
>>3285690
That comparison is completely irrelevant and has absolutely nothing to do with my statement. Nowhere did I say the composer was mediocre, I said I don't like the music. Which is literally what you just said, so I have no idea what you're getting at.

>> No.3285712

>>3285573
>Rare
>single most overrated developer in video games.
That isn't Squaresoft anon.

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>>3285526

>> No.3285729

>>3285704
Let me rephrase, then: Anon I hate Jazz but you'll never hear me say Miles Davis composed mediocre music.

Take DKC2, for example. You can hate the soundtrack all you want, but you can't tell me it's mediocre. It's great music that's simply not to your taste.

>inb4 telling you you have shit taste
>inb4ing myself

Your taste is not bad, it's different. The DKC2 soundtrack is not mediocre, it's great.

>> No.3285791

>>3285573
That's not Naughty Dog, anon.

>> No.3285810

>>3285516
True but the graphics, soundtrack and the characters themselves were a lot better in DKC1. I guess it depends on your personal priorities when choosing one of the two.

>>3285309
>The soundtrack is utterly forgettable
This is really just a meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57FQ_L0lH5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGDDNL26VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxgzPzkDNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAaWOjhaVCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxQYrCQ9Lw

Not as good as the other two, but definitely not forgettable.

>> No.3285837

>>3285664
>- It's floaty and imprecise.
Nope. They're smooth and precise. Even more than in games like Mario World.

>- It can't be solid because it controls so poorly.
Controls are perfect for precise platforming and speed running. Level design has a good variety of elements, offers a good challenge and makes use of the animal buddies very well.

>- Those characters are so bad, DKC ruined the DK franchise entirely. It was a massive mistake to let Rare have their way with such an important IP, and DK has never recovered from it.
That's funny because they have been generally praised since the first release and have throughout the years appeared in many other non-DKC games.

>- The music is mediocre, I just don't care for it.
Ok, you convinced me your post is just a big mindless bait.

>> No.3285840

>>3285729
Nah brah. Miles davis, his music, and DKC are all pretty lame.

>> No.3285867

>>3285810
The vanilla overworld track, Roolenstein's leitmotif and the third one you posted from the rock climbing/mountain stages are the only ones that I could recall without listening to the entire OST. On the other hand, there isn't a single track from DKC2 that I can't remember, name and hum on command.

>> No.3285870

>>3285840
You have the right to an opinion, anon. I'm not here to change your mind.

>> No.3285970

>>3285517
King K. Rool had a trade agreement with the Kongs, industry was brought to the island in a small, manageable fashion. The Kremlings took the bananas in exchange for the industrial infrastructure.

Well apparently Cranky Kong, former Mayor and Plumber assassin, was annoyed at King K. Rools constant mining expansions, and said the next shipment would be limited.

K. Rool needed the bananas, see, because they were a delicacy and were YUGE sellers at the Kremlings Amusement Park.

So in his rage he sent his soldiers to raid the Hoard in the middle of the night, leaving the Kongs with nothing. Of course, the lazy and generally laid back Donkey Kong was not part of his thought process. D.K loves his bananas. And without them it send him into a diabetes fueled rage.

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>>3285729
I think Miles would probably think the DKC soundtracks are lame af.

>> No.3286137

Personally, I love DKC3.

I get that it's different, but that's a large reason why I like it. I know it's cliche to say, but I think DKC3 is one of the most "comfy" games in existence.

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>>3284582

>> No.3286515

>>3286236
Thank you Autismo

>> No.3286537

>>3285810
>>3285729


how do go from this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCAnj_7hJAg

to THIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsKv9sJ4BVE

>> No.3286554

>>3284421
Fuck i find it good to, i always play the second games dammit (bajoo-tooie). Is good but the second one is good to.

>> No.3286579

>>3286537
Stilt Village is weird. Definitely not as moody as the rest of the soundtrack and seems out of place. Wasn't there a rumor years ago about it being adapted from one of David Wise's unfinished DKC2 scores? It would make sense considering it sounds nothing like anything from the rest of the game. The rest all seem fairly balanced and consistent, but don't have the same showtune vibe like DKC2.

There aren't any obviously weak tracks in DKC2 that I remember. The boss themes are probably the worst, but they're still plenty good enough. The rest are all pretty great.

So yeah I like both games a lot, but probably 2 just a bit more.

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>>3284421

>> No.3286924

>>3286901
Kek. OP just got BTFO. That picture is worth a thousand words. Or at least 44 posts. /thread.

>> No.3286947

>>3286901
Yeah, I don't know why they toon-ified it even more. While the original is obviously stylized, it still draws heavily from a real bee and has a naturally menacing look. The other looks like a cartoon. Guess it was the start of the transition to the 3D era Rare style. I don't have a problem with it, but I don't think hyper cartoony meshes quite as well with DKC's darker and more realistic BGs.

>> No.3286962

>>3285573

This is how fun dies...

>> No.3286996

>>3286901
>>3286947
It's sad really. There's nothing inherently wrong with the Buzz.

But the Zinger is just SO MUCH BETTER.

>> No.3286998

>>3286996
Pic related just sums up the game, it's not just the buzz, it's every fucking new enemy, backgrounds, characters, etc.

>> No.3287051

>>3286947
>>bee

If you think that looks like a bee then I seriously hope you're not older than 4. That zinger looks a lot more like a wasp, my friend.

>> No.3287067 [DELETED] 

>>3287051
Your mom's a wasp, faggot.

>> No.3287126

>>3285516

I agree with this opinion, and my preference is 2>3>1

>> No.3287127

>>3286515
go to bed faggot

>> No.3287139

>>3286901
I just remembered that in 2 in the bee hive levels Dixie would eat honey in her idle animation

is there anything like that in 3?

>> No.3287258 [DELETED] 

>>3286901

I like both designs but I like the one on the right more. I mean it has exhaust pipes for arms and a chainsaw for an ass, what's not to love? Plus his expression, much better than the blank look on the one on the right.

>> No.3287261

>>3286901

I like both designs but I like the one on the right more. I mean it has exhaust pipes for arms and a chainsaw for an ass, what's not to love? Plus his expression, much better than the blank look on the one on the left.

>> No.3287431

>>3287261
Satire.

>> No.3287449

>>3287431

Nope, just a different opinion. Sorry if I triggered you.

>> No.3287780

>>3284421
I will NEVER understand why people defend DKC 2 as the best DKC.

Those bramble levels are fucking BULLSHIT and you all know it.

>> No.3287810

>>3287780
They're the best, tho.

>> No.3287812

>>3287780
separated men from boys. literally if you played with a friend the more elite player would advance and beat the game.

>> No.3287873

>>3284421
I agree with you and thought I was alone. I do think Kiddy Kong is stupid though, should've just been DK

>> No.3288131

>>3287780
holy shit, just kill yourself, don't you go around spreading those bad-at-videogames genes

>> No.3288153

>>3284421
The game was great, but it was different than the previous games since it incorporated vehicles and shit. Because the average gamer doesn't like something different than what they are familiar with, they bash it.

>> No.3289823

>>3287449
this is the easiest way to tell if someones autistic

>> No.3289968

>>3287139
Yea, that's another thing 2 did better. The game is full of extra animations here and there, adding a lot to its presentation. The roller coaster levels, the boss battles and the end level animations are other good examples. I don't remember 3 having this much attention to detail.

>> No.3289969

>>3284421
It's not a bad game, but the lack of Donkey kong made it lose a few charm points.

>> No.3289971

>>3289969
>Game title is Donkey Kong
>no Donkey Kong

Mistakes were made.

>> No.3290337

>>3289969
DK wasn't in DKC 2 either, you fucking autist.

>> No.3290360

>>3290337
You had to rescue him and he delivered the final blow to K.Roll.

>> No.3290852

>>3290360
You had to rescue him again in DKC3. Not only him but you had to save Diddy there as well.

>> No.3290868

>>3287261
I have no problem with Buzz, but in my opinion it looks a bit out of place relative to the real-ish environment renders used in the DKC series. Use that design in something like Conker or B-K and it'd be fine.

>> No.3291112

>>3287780
the bramble levels werent that bad compared to the castle levels

>> No.3291126 [DELETED] 

/vr/ doesn't like DKC3 because it stars a strong empowered womyn who needs to rescue her dumb as fuck male counterparts and that triggers all the autistic MRAs here.

>> No.3291164 [DELETED] 

>post funny joke about MRAs hating DKC3 because strong female main character
>salty janitor deletes my post and tries to ban me citing global rule 3
>fails at banning me because I didn't violate any fucking rules

Stay salty faggot, you are the cancer killing 4chan. Instead of trying to turn this place into your own personal safe space, how about you get back to tumblr where you fucking belong.

>> No.3291212 [DELETED] 

>faggot janitor deletes my post again

My original post was on topic and you're a fucking powertripping douchebag for deleting it. Kill yourself since being a faggot janitor on a vietnamese checkers image board is all you have to live for.

>> No.3291330

>>3291112
>castle levels
>hard

The "toxic tower is hard" meme is almost as much of a 'casual detected' phrase as "snow barrel blast is hard".

The brambles aren't that bad either, but they are at least somewhat challenging to a first time player.

>> No.3291498

>>3285810
I honestly didn't like the soundtrack of Donkey Kong Country 3. Not even memeing it just wasn't that great in my eyes. The original had better music then 2 with 3 as the worst

>> No.3291516

>>3284421
Kiddy feels awful in every way, I felt like there were too many collectables and the whole swap thing with the bears got old fast. I dunno I think the level design felt worse than 1 or 2 as well

>> No.3291520

>>3284421
the spider level dodging the cross hair was agony to play when i was a kid. never liked dkc3. over rated shit

>> No.3292682

>>3288131
>Acting elitist about children's toys on a Mongolian Stamp Factory Forum

Seriously, you and people like you should rounded up and killed.

>> No.3292704

>>3285309
This p much. This p much exactly.
I feel like Dixie deserves more credit for being such a cool character and she got shit on by having this be her big game.

>> No.3292903

>>3292682
you don't need to be "elite" to beat dkc2 that's the fucking point

it's not elitism if you are the one in a pathetic minority

>> No.3293781

>>3292704
Dixie rocks. I grew up with the girl next door back in elementary school. She was literally my first friend and we used to spend endless afternoons together with DKC2's 2P mode. Sit was comfy. She eventually developed boobs and forgot all about me, but it was fun while it lasted.

>> No.3294064

>>3293781
I can relate to this. Except that she never actually played DKC2 with me (though we talked about it) and she reminded me of Dixie in various ways: the beautiful long blonde ponytail, her vibrant green eyes, her sweet face... even her clothes used to abuse of the color pink and she often chewed gum. She then moved away from our town and I've never seen her again. Life sucks.

>> No.3294770

>No one posting Enchanted River Bank
https://youtu.be/J-JfUgEUYB4

>> No.3295312

>>3292704
Worst part was that in the ads, they were almost all pushing Kiddy Kong and acting Like Dixie didn't exist.

>> No.3296964

>>3284421
It's really good but objectively weaker than the first two. The order goes

1>2>3