[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vr/ - Retro Games


View post   

File: 63 KB, 985x533, 6th gen (2000-2006).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281759 No.3281759[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

So when do you reckon these will become /vr/? I guess another 5 years and we can allow them on here.

>> No.3281765

>>3281759
Probably never. They should just make a new board for 5th gen +. Call it 'Nostalgic Games" or some shit.

>> No.3281767

Your childhood will never, ever be /vr/.

Unfair, I know.

>> No.3281771

>>3281759
Is there any console, without any Internet connection?


a console without the internet.
with only local multiplayer (from the same console)
without peripherals for internet

>> No.3281775

>>3281771
Are you saying those shouldn't be allowed here? If that's the case you need to drop:

>Dreamcast
>SNES
>Genesis
>Most PC games

Just to name a few.

>> No.3281791

>>3281759
Not retro. Never will be.

>> No.3281796

GBA should already be allowed on /vr/.

>Nearly identical hardware to the SNES
>Hardware makes the graphics and games similar to anything from 4th gen
>Dedicated library of SNES and NES ports
>Last console to us cardboard for game boxes
>Used cartridges

But, I guess because it came out after 1999, that somehow makes it forever tabboo in the eyes of the dumbass punk mods. Somehow it's not retro (ˈrɛtrəʊ/ adjective 1. imitative of a style or fashion from the recent past.) enough, but the fucking Dreamcast, which competed against the PS2 somehow is.

Honestly, mods what the fuck are you even doing? It's obvious you don't play games. Leave this board forever. The GBA is considered one of the greatest systems ever for a reason. you would know this if you played, or cared about games in the slightest.

>> No.3281805

>>3281759
pretty sure they won't be allowed

it's bullshit that they play favorites with the dreamcast though

>> No.3281806

>>3281759
Hopefully never. These aren't retro. They're outdated, nostalgic maybe, not retro.

>> No.3281808

>>3281796
>>Nearly identical hardware to the SNES
Naw, it used an ARM7 processor. Just being tile + sprite based doesn't make it "identical to the SNES".

>> No.3281809
File: 80 KB, 800x733, 1460578209439.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281809

>>3281796
>Nearly identical hardware to the SNES
GBA has gimped graphics and even shitter sound quality than the already muffled SNES. >NEARLY IDENTICAL

>> No.3281810
File: 1.93 MB, 5000x5000, isitretro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281810

>>3281759
>>3281796

>> No.3281813
File: 133 KB, 776x678, 3d_goldface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281813

>>3281759
NEVER EVER GEN6 KIDDIES

ENJOY HAVING TO DEAL WITH TEN FUCKING OVERMEME THREADS AS YOU TRY TO DISCUSS NON-RETRO VIDEOGAMES IN YOUR SHITHOLE YOU CALL /v/!

AAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!

>> No.3281818

>>3281809
Hey, you're being too harsh on the GBA. At least it didn't have a 1.5mhz processor like the SNES which affected 99% of action games for the system.

>> No.3281820

Hopefully never.

Those consoles had tons of shitty games. Good god, can you imagine if the PS2 was retro? Pretty sure I would stop posting here.

>> No.3281823

>>3281820
>Can you imagine if the PS2 was retro?
That would just push it to the limit. Past the point of no return.

>> No.3281827

>>3281765
This would be the best solution, to have another vidya board dedicated to 6th & 7th gen, and 8th too once we get the next console wave.

>> No.3281835

>>3281759
They are already retro.

This is the first and last generation to do DLC correctly, and not release half finished games with 100 dollar DLC packs later.

>> No.3281839

>>3281759
i know gamecube is just beyond retro, but they have some decent ports of older games. I never owned one growing up but there are a couple near me for 30 with a controller and mem card and a few games. should i snag one up? or will the cost of games themselves destroy me

>> No.3281841
File: 59 KB, 561x758, 18998_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281841

>>3281835
>This is the first and last generation to do DLC correctly
Set up the modern pay for online model.

>> No.3281842

>>3281839
You're really better off getting a Wii or Wii U since you can just USB load any gamecube game you can't find for a price you're willing to pay.

>> No.3281848

>>3281835
>This is the first and last generation to do DLC correctly
First commercially released game to sell you the customer DLC that was already on the disc. Charging for on disc content was born.

>> No.3281849

GBA is already allowed here now that /vr/ cucks aren't doing anything about it

>> No.3281854
File: 451 KB, 3000x2014, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281854

>>3281835
>This is the first and last generation to do DLC correctly
The first commercially released online only game. No single player co op.

>> No.3281859
File: 58 KB, 270x262, 270px-SambaDeAmigo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281859

>>3281848

>> No.3281860

>>3281810
Every single one of those points is wrong.

>> No.3281862

>>3281849
It's clearly a fucking retro console by today's standards. There's no fucking arguments to be made.

>> No.3281864
File: 28 KB, 400x284, guy-eating-popcorn-15568418.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281864

>> No.3281873

>>3281854
You're thinking of Black Online.

Black had single player.

>> No.3281874
File: 1.67 MB, 320x179, 1463354070895.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281874

>> No.3281875

>>3281810
What do any of these completely made-up, arbitrary points have to do with what constitutes as "retro" or not? I already gave the correct definition straight out of the dictionary (let's reiterate, since we apparently have short attention spans - ˈrɛtrəʊ/ adjective 1. imitative of a style or fashion from the recent past.). So, now tell me, under what authority, or any definition/dictionary makes these points "retro"? And if so, why these in particular.and how these conclusions were made. It seems like you just made some shit up, simply to eliminate anyone who opposes. Too bad that cannot work when you have nothing to back it up with. Not one thing.

Take my advice to the mods, and leave this board too. You are a blackhole of creativity and freethinking. You are making this place worse by being here with your ignorance and stupidity.

>> No.3281876

>>3281775
Didn't the NES have a peripheral for internet?

>> No.3281879

>>3281862
>by today's standards
Shitty argument. Just because it has mostly 2D games doesn't make it retro. Then we'd have to allow indie garbage like AVGN Adventures and Flappy Bird as well.

>> No.3281882

>>3281875
>Too bad that cannot work when you have nothing to back it up with. Not one thing.
3 big commonalities of 1st through 5th gen.
Yep nothing, 6th genner.

>> No.3281883

Really, we should ban all games after the 4th gen and all people born after 1985.

>> No.3281887

Retro is irrelevant. That term is outmoded. It's archaic. Retro by definition is 15 years or older.

Crude 2D Gaming
-Magnavox Odyssey, Pong
This era was dominated by Table Tennis type games. This is the era where gaming is in it's infancy.

Early 2D Gaming
-Atari 2600, Colecovision, Intellivision, etc.
This era was dominated by early 2D Gaming. This is the era where gaming begins to evolve.

Polished 2D Gaming
-NES, Sega Master System, Atari 7800, etc.
This is the era where 2D gaming is perfected. The best games of all time are released for these systems, ported to these systems, and true multi-generation franchises are born as well as modern gaming iconography and modern characters.

Upgraded 2D Gaming, Crude 3D Gaming
-Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, etc.
This is the era where 2D Gaming is continually evolving. Bigger stories, longer games, better graphics, more colors. Very crude, rudimentary 3D begins mostly on the Genesis, but then on the SNES with the FX chip and SVP chip on the Genesis. Modern game design begins, but is limited due to the controllers at the time - (one of the quoted reasons Mario 64 was moved to the Nintendo 64)

Dying 2D Gaming, Early 3D Gaming
-Nintendo 64, Sega Saturn, PlayStation
This is the era that 2D begins to die, and the era that arcade ports are starting to fade as arcades themselves die out.

We are introduced to modern gaming, 3D analog sticks, and fully exploitable multi-level, huge and massive worlds that could never have existed before. Games span multiple CDs and can take days to complete. Memory cards become standard as many games now take multiple days to complete.

Polished 3D Gaming
-Dreamcast, Xbox, GameCube, etc.
This is the era where modern gaming is expanded upon, with the advent of faster internet speeds and the Dreamcast popularizing internet out of the box. Everything is kept from the previous era, but polished and made to look better, flow better, and feel better, including physics and more powerful hardware.

>> No.3281893

>>3281883
>all people born after 1985
75% of /vr/ poster then, I agree with the first part tho.

>> No.3281895

>>3281887
This is everything that is currently retro. After the
Polished 3D Gaming phase
we turn from just gaming into multimedia centers and multifunction devices. That is the true mark of the modern game system, not "internet" or 480p/720p displays as some anon posts.

As we expand into the future eras, the period of time between
Upgraded 3D Gaming, Crude Multimedia device, Crude motion control
and
Virtual Reality

will become distinct eras on their own.

Yes, the 6th generation is "retro," if we must use that term.

>> No.3281901
File: 216 KB, 500x360, TexasSharpshooter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281901

>>3281882
Hit me back with a real argument.

>> No.3281902

>>3281893
Actually 75% of this board was probably born after 1992 and only posts here because of e-celebs.

>> No.3281904

>>3281902
People born in 92 wouldve been part of the snes and nintendo 64 eras.

>> No.3281907

>>3281904
I'm real sure you were playing FF V when you were in diapers.

>> No.3281908

>>3281901
>cherry picked
>resolution
>arcades
>online
Great counter argument, famicom.

>> No.3281909

>>3281907
I played Final Fantasy 7 when I was 6.

>> No.3281914

>>3281904
92 is getting to the ass end of maybe having 5th gen.

>> No.3281915

>>3281907
>>3281914
I was born in 1994 and I grew up playing PlayStation and N64. Those were my entire childhood until 2001, before I got a new system. I was very poor. My best gaming memories are from the 5th generation.

>> No.3281917
File: 63 KB, 800x444, oe2cbil28a5earyroep1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281917

>>3281887
>>3281895
I like how people completely fucking ignore this classification and continue to go on about their bitch fights and made up, arbitrary rules and thoughts.

>> No.3281920 [DELETED] 

>>3281820
>>3281823

I was in favor of allowing new consoles but you
know what fuck that

people arguing for allowing are the side using the term retro correctly but seriously fuck that

>> No.3281921

>>3281917
It's quite simple, really.

The idea of a gaming console being just a gaming console died after the 6th generation. There is a clear shift in the Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 that isn't present in anything before.

That generation is dominated by motion controls and multimedia, that continued to the Xbox One, PS4, and Wii U even more so.

We're seeing the motion controls die off, they will be replaced by Virtual Reality, and we'll have a totally different era of gaming once that happens.

I just don't understand why /vr/ refuses to see this.

>> No.3281923

>>3281908
You aren't familiar much with PC gaming, are you?

>> No.3281925

>>3281920
6th gen would be ok if we banned Squaresoft/Halo discussion.

>> No.3281926
File: 12 KB, 496x384, Virtua_Fighter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281926

>>3281917
>>3281887
>>3281895
>3d gaming started with 5th gen eceleb parrot opinion.
Nice try kiddo.

>> No.3281927

>>3281820 #
>>3281823 #

I was in favor of allowing new consoles but you know what fuck that

people arguing for allowing are the side using the term retro correctly but seriously fuck that

>> No.3281928

>>3281926
What post are you reading?

>>3281887
>Upgraded 2D Gaming, Crude 3D Gaming
>-Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, etc.
This is the era where 2D Gaming is continually evolving. Bigger stories, longer games, better graphics, more colors. Very crude, rudimentary 3D begins mostly on the Genesis, but then on the SNES with the FX chip and SVP chip on the Genesis. Modern game design begins, but is limited due to the controllers at the time - (one of the quoted reasons Mario 64 was moved to the Nintendo 64)

You just made yourself look like a fucking moron.

>> No.3281929

>>3281909
FF VII is not a SNES game though.

>> No.3281935

>>3281926
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Robot_(video_game)

Try second gen.

>> No.3281936

>>3281929
I never cared for Final Fantasy on the Nintendo consoles, but I grew up with a SNES hand me down. Not every family could just buy new consoles each generation. I made do with very old stuff for years.

>> No.3281939
File: 78 KB, 640x480, ps2eyetoy2_B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281939

>>3281921
>The idea of a gaming console being just a gaming console died after the 6th generation
>That generation is dominated by motion controls and multimedia
Why are you 6th genners delusional?

It's funny because every time you open your delusional opinion dumper up you spout some shit that 6th gen made and claim it's a 7th gen thing.

>> No.3281943

>>3281936
Doesn't matter. The first computer I used was a Commodore 64 because my dad didn't get a PC until 1995 but that still doesn't make me an 80s kid.

>> No.3281945
File: 123 KB, 640x466, 11321_back.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281945

>>3281926
The post you quoted very CLEARLY states Crude 3D Gaming started with the Genesis and SNES you fucking mongoloid.

Are you this guy?
>>3281810

Because you fucking post the same way every time you discuss anything. You're a board cancer and literally don't read anything you reply to. You're incredibly toxic to any discussion on this board.

>> No.3281946

>>3281928
>What post are you reading?
The ones I linked.
>>3281923
Notice how the post says "consoles" Not "PC". Reading is tough sometimes at a younger age.

>> No.3281947
File: 189 KB, 1529x1200, 1465140332669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281947

>>3281902
I was born after 92 and my first game ever was Pokémon Blue with a GBC. I'm against anything past 4th gen being posted here.

>> No.3281950

>>3281943
What the fuck does what time period you grew up in have to do with the machinery from that era?


>>3281946
You didn't read what you quoted you fucking idiot.

Read it again.

>Upgraded 2D Gaming, Crude 3D Gaming
>-Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, etc.
This is the era where 2D Gaming is continually evolving. Bigger stories, longer games, better graphics, more colors. Very crude, rudimentary 3D begins mostly on the Genesis, but then on the SNES with the FX chip and SVP chip on the Genesis. Modern game design begins, but is limited due to the controllers at the time - (one of the quoted reasons Mario 64 was moved to the Nintendo 64)

>> No.3281951

>>3281945
>The post you quoted very CLEARLY states Crude 3D Gaming started with the Genesis and SNES you fucking mongoloid.
Which is still incorrect and not the point I was talking about.

>> No.3281956

>>3281951
Quote the point you were talking about.

>> No.3281957

>>3281947
I have no objection to 5th gen though it's not my favorite era of gaming, but I do think eventually 6th gen can be allowed, but not yet because it ended only 10 years ago. Too soon.

>> No.3281959

>>3281950
see
>>3281951
I really don't get how you kids come to the idea that 3d is some new thing. It has its origins shortly after pong.

>> No.3281961

>>3281959
Oh, okay.

Please list the home consoles that 3D gaming began on after pong.

>> No.3281964

>>3281950
>What the fuck does what time period you grew up in have to do with the machinery from that era?
That being poor and having a SNES in 2005 doesn't make you a 90s kid. You were born in 92, you have no conscious memory of the 4th gen consoles being a thing, end of story.

>> No.3281968

>>3281964
What does that matter?

>> No.3281971

>>3281959
What point are you attempting to make? You misquoted someone, posted Virtua Fighter from the 32X, and are now attempting to talk about 3D gaming on home consoles shortly after PONG?

Do you even have any idea what you're posting?

>> No.3281972
File: 326 KB, 850x1101, sample_13e0df39bd90ee54d16b081352c445b8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281972

>>3281961
>arcades don't count because then my argument falls apart.
Oh well then...

>> No.3281973

>>3281946
If you don't recognize PC as being part of console generations, why should handhelds be met with the standards as well? Handhelds have an even smaller market and limited hardware (again, it meets the technical definition of retro, not the made up one).

>> No.3281974

>>3281968
That you're claiming to be a 90s kid because you were poor and had old shit when you're still a 2000s kid like it or not.

>> No.3281975
File: 2.88 MB, 280x190, 2nklz43.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281975

>>3281972
We're discussing home console generations and whether or not they are retro.

Not what a 5,000 dollar cabinet sized arcade machine was capable of in the 1980s in incredibly limited capacity for the rudimentary and crude 3D polygons they may have used before the Genesis.

Are you even capable of following a basic discussion?

>> No.3281976
File: 5 KB, 150x124, 75.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281976

>>3281972
His post is clearly talking about home consoles, though. Not arcades.

>> No.3281978

>>3281975
>We're discussing home console generations and whether or not they are retro.

This may be an alien concept to you but it's not much of a stretch to say these retro consoles lived and died by their arcade ports.

>> No.3281981

>>3281973
>If you don't recognize PC as being part of console generations
Whut.

>> No.3281983
File: 53 KB, 648x365, 108306027_a_l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3281983

>>3281978
>Looks up best sellers on those consoles
>Most are not arcade ports

>> No.3281985

>>3281978
Whether or not arcade ports were top sellers for the systems is totally irrelevant to the point.

>> No.3281986

>>3281978
I'm simply putting this anon
>>3281926
in his place for not reading anything he responds to

>> No.3281992

>>3281983
>The only measure of success of an arcade game is how well it sells on the console
Ya fuck that it gets people talking about the console.

Not sure what retro console doesn't have a top selling arcade port.

>> No.3281993

>>3281992
I'm not arguing about that, at all.

I was simply telling an anon who posted a picture of Virtua Fighter on the 32X that he's a fucking idiot and didn't read the post he was quoting, at all.

>> No.3281994

>>3281957
What year were you born.

>> No.3282000

>>3281957
>the last 6th gen console was released in 2001

>ended 10 years ago

Anon the hardware in the 6th gen is going on 16 years old in October.

>> No.3282002

>>3281993
You do understand that Arcade game out years before the port?

>> No.3282004

>>3281994
'88

>> No.3282005
File: 54 KB, 250x250, 22596270.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3282005

>>3282002
Yes, but anon, the FUCKING POST WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GENESIS AND THE SUPER NINTENDO, NOT ARCADE CABINETS.

>Upgraded 2D Gaming, Crude 3D Gaming
>-Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, etc.
>This is the era where 2D Gaming is continually evolving. Bigger stories, longer games, better graphics, more colors. Very crude, rudimentary 3D begins mostly on the Genesis, but then on the SNES with the FX chip and SVP chip on the Genesis.

>> No.3282007

>>3282002
First of all, the post said 3D gaming began in the 4th generation, as this anon quoted
>>3282005

The anon who posted the Virtua Fighter image misquoted and said that anon somehow claimed 3D gaming began in the 5th generation.

So you didn't read the post either and can fuck off now.

>> No.3282008

>>3282004
You said you didn't like the 5th gen. If you were born in 88, that should have been your childhood and you're a disgusting traitor to your generation. Lemme guess, you like Atari games because of an e-celeb? Fuck you.

>> No.3282010

>>3282008
Stop this nonsense.

>> No.3282015

>>3281810
The guy who uses the 5000x5000 fire emblem pictures should be permanently banned.

>> No.3282016

>>3282008
I never said anything about my gaming prefs other than that I didn't really like the 5th gen that much.

>> No.3282020

>>3282016
Enjoy being the only loser at social gatherings talking about Intellivision games while your peers are nostalgia-bonering over MK64. I guess you can always find some 40 year olds to hang out with instead.

You shitty le born in the rong generation faggot, you.

>> No.3282021

>>3282020
Ban this fucking filth, please, for the love of god.

>> No.3282023

>>3282008
I was born in 1988 and spent the majority of my childhood playing 3rd and 4th gen games. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

>> No.3282024
File: 268 KB, 454x333, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3282024

>>3282020
The only loser is you faggot

>> No.3282026

I was born in 1994 and spent the first 10 years of my life playing my brothers Super Nintendo and Sega Saturn.

I didn't get an N64 until I was much older and a GameCube until it was discontinued.

>> No.3282027

>>3281928
>You just made yourself look like a fucking moron.
And yet you can't even quote properly.

>> No.3282028

>>3282027
Holy shit, rekt.