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>Grew up in the UK
>move to Japan recently for work
>Get to play NTSC for the first time

My mind was blown. Every game I knew is now faster, not only in controls but also music.

What the fuck?

>> No.3278716

>>3278713
>but also music.

I guess you were only playing games released in the 80s?

>> No.3278717

Sage and report flame war shit threads

>> No.3278719

>>3278716

Mostly Mega Drive stuff which is what I grew up with

>>3278717
what?

>> No.3278728

>>3278719
>Mostly Mega Drive stuff which is what I grew up with

Can't think of too many Mega Drive games with slow music except Sonic 1

>> No.3278856

>>3278713
NTCS is video standard and 60hz is household current standard in USA.
These are two things that have no link between them.
we could have had PAL in 60 hertz or NTSC with 50 hertz.

>> No.3278878

>>3278713
Ask me why I know you're full of shit

>> No.3279340

>>3278728
Slower music is only noticable on consoles from the 3rd and 4th gen (excluding snes)

>> No.3279543

>>3278713

Not arguing for PAL here, but the Mario overworld theme just sound more right in the PAL speed. I always thought the original was a little too sluggish. PAL version really tightens it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbW0qBmveqI

>> No.3279560

>>3279543
You're right, I dig the PAL version's music pace more

>> No.3279867

>>3279340
Chronological release date is a better indicator of the slow music thing than anything.

There literally aren't any Mega Drive games mid-life onwards with slow music.

>> No.3279870

>>3278878

H...How'd you know?

>> No.3279873

>>3278713
>North Korea is both PAL and NTSC

W-Wha

>> No.3279883

>>3279873
Portable DVD players smuggled from the south. If you let the police watch soap operas with you they let it slide by.

>> No.3280406

>>3278713
Stop stirring shit up. There no way you played only the games that weren't speed adjusted in the past.

>> No.3280408

>>3278856
that's bullshit. you don't know what you are talking about and how both systems emerged.

>> No.3281023

>>3279543
So did the minus world theme, but the PAL version seemed to have different timings all over the place, like with movement and powerup movements. And the underground theme ended up quite hasty.

>> No.3281039

>>3278713
>that map
Rolled Mercator a best.

>> No.3281086

>>3279543
ew, that's fucking too fast like someone took speed. out of tune, totally. if you like this you're a junky, and not a comfy gamer.

>> No.3281131

>>3281086

Hey, Mario is not a comfy game. I play that shit like Mario is full of speedball.

>> No.3281151

>>3278713
Every game now also has more occasional slowdown or framedrop, because you have 17.5% less processing power per second.

>> No.3281161

>>3281131
Jedem das seine.

>> No.3281172

>>3279543
ntsc plays at 100bpm
pal at 120 bpm
hmm

>> No.3281192

>>3279543

I think both version are too fast.

>> No.3281196

>>3281172
100bpm / 2 === 50Hz
120bpm / 2 === 60Hz
>Coincidence?

>> No.3281226

>>3281196
but that's fucking backwards

>> No.3281241

>>3281226
only politics are backwards. and a good shag from behind.

>> No.3281256

>>3281172
>>3281196
>>3281226
well but it fucking makes sense.
The original NTSC 60Hz version is 100bpm.
For PAL they slow the video down (this is more ps2 era) but I think in nes era they adjust the calculations...so they slow down the calculations to 50Hz
....50 / 60 === 0,833333333. That means the pal version processes information 16.6666667 % slower. They have to make the music that amount faster to accomodate. Then I guess they can't make the music go exactly that amount faster so the music is processed 20% faster which is 120bpm.

>> No.3281259

>>3278728
Phantasy Star 4 has this problem. I always enjoyed the battle theme on YouTube. When I finally got the game recently I was really looking forward to the battle theme all the time, but it's sooo slow...

>> No.3281634

>>3278713
0/10. As you can see no one ITT believes you. Especially that part about you having a mind.

>> No.3282580

>>3281634
It was blown before he made the post, so it might not work any more.

>> No.3282595

>>3278713
>eurotards claiming that shitholes like africa, russia, middle east etc and their single digit console sales matter
I honestly thought this was a metric system thread
burn all 50hz cancer

>> No.3283389

>>3281039
Looks more like Robinson or Eckert IV. Mercator would show much higher distortion at higher latitudes (e.g. Canada / Greenland).

>> No.3283482

>>3278713
We all know you just made this thread to bait Australia-kun, OP.

>> No.3283684

>>3281192

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGFP9Izgwg

>> No.3284032

NTSC may be better for video games, but PAL is better for everything else. Better colors, higher line count, and 50Hz was fine for TV and movies that are filmed in 24Hz anyway.

>> No.3284642

>>3284032

If more games were actually made properly for PAL, then PAL would be just fine.

Don't blame the encoding system, blame lazy developers.

>> No.3284865

>>3280408

>In USA
-Household Current Standard: 1892 by Westinghouse Electric Company for 110v/60hertz.
-NTSC Standard: 1940 for black&white and 1950 for color television.

>In Europe
Nikola Tesla wanted 240v/60hertz.

-But in 1899 german company AEG generalizes 220v/50hertz.
-PAL standard: was developed by german company Telefunken in 1962.

So, PAL video signal is better than NTSC. But electrical standard in Europe suck because 50hertz.
If the games were better than PAL to NTSC is because the console manufacturer are outcome of NTSC area.

>> No.3284867

>>3283482

Seems aussie is getting smarter, he didn't post any Tomoko or any of his obvious "lol why didn't you mod your system to PAL60 back in the 80s" bait.