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Most graphically impressive Super Nintendo games? Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:46:45 2016 No.3269213 [Reply] [Original]

I vote for pic-related. It game out in 1997, and could pass for a PS1 2D title in certain areas. It had a beautiful hand-drawn style to the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:48:06 2016 No.3269215 >>3269213 >and could pass for a PS1 2D title You mean Saturn? PS1 isn't that great at 2D outside of SOTN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:52:19 2016 No.3269224 >>3269215 Mega Man 8 and the Mega Man X games on PS1 looked better than most games on the Super Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:56:45 2016 No.3269239 >>3269224 I'd say they look like a SNES game, not necessarily better. Capcom made more impressive SNES stuff before, like Demon's Crest

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:02:20 2016 No.3269253 >>3269239 Capcom even got a port of Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the Super Nintendo released in late 1996. However, I still think that the PS1 MM games look better than their Super Nintendo stuff, especially Mega Man 8.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:07:46 2016 No.3269269 File: 58 KB, 256x224, Seiken_Densetsu_3_00027.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only valid answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:22:42 2016 No.3269306 Demon's Crest ActRaiser 2 King of Demons Super Turrican 2 Rendering Ranger Kishin Douji Zenki: Battle Raiden Musya SD3 Star Ocean Final Fantasy 6 Chaos Seed YamYam

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:44:15 2016 No.3269657 >>3269306 Others games to add to that: Chrono Trigger Super Metroid (supposedly it has the highest resolution available for super nintendo games) Yoshi's Island

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:45:43 2016 No.3269660 >>3269657 >Super Metroid (supposedly it has the highest resolution available for super nintendo games) No it doesn't. Why do people repeat stuff they have no idea about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:46:41 2016 No.3269664 >>3269660 That is why I said supposedly.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:00:23 2016 No.3269697

>>3269664
Well, that statement makes no sense whatsoever. All NTSC SNES games are 256x224 except RPM Racing, which is 512x448. Some RPGs utilise the pseudo hi res mode which is 512x224 but usually only for menus or some shit.
PAL games get an additional 16px of height so they're 256x240.
Super Metroid doesn't utilise any of the special modes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:04:04 2016 No.3269706 >>3269697 Well excuse me princess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:06:16 2016 No.3269714 >>3269706 Didn't want to sound like a dick, sorry man. But now you know. On topic: Sutte Hakkun is very pretty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:07:35 2016 No.3269717 >>3269664 You shouldn't say it if you haven't looked into it. That kind of research takes 2 seconds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 18:13:54 2016 No.3269735 >>3269714 Is that the puzzle game release in 1998/1999? It does not seem to do anything graphically impressive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:33:53 2016 No.3270027 I'm inclined to agree with the OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:35:21 2016 No.3270176 >>3269213 Fun fact: they drew the sprite sheets out irl, scanned them, and converted them into sprites directly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:44:48 2016 No.3270197 >>3269213 It had great music, too. https://youtu.be/67MPxnPHBNk

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:03:06 2016 No.3270247 >>3270197 I swear this song was somewhere in Kirby Super Star.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:06:09 2016 No.3270253 >>3270247 It uses a common melody and (I think) the same samples as some songs in Super Star.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:11:32 2016 No.3270267 >>3270253 Nevermind I was thinking of Grape Gardens, not really the same at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:15:58 2016 No.3270278 Yoshi's Island and Donkey Kong Country Maybe FXRace or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:19:51 2016 No.3270979 File: 59 KB, 524x458, 35961-Sutte_Hakkun_(Japan)-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3269735 The title screen alone uses an extremely clever and careful arrangement of BG tiles. There's much more than meets the eye in pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:40:09 2016 No.3271005 >>3270197 Dope bassline damn

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:44:44 2016 No.3271009 >>3269213 Tales of Phantasia Star Ocean Clock Tower Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium Famicom Tantei Club Part II Maten Densetsu - Senritsu no Ooparts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:45:15 2016 No.3271010 Does anyone know the technical reason on how the fuck did Kirby's Dream Land 3 overcome SNES palette limitations? Some tiles use colors that shouldn't be possible

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:23:13 2016 No.3271071 >>3271010 SNES has a massive palette. You're underestimating it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:31:28 2016 No.3271082 >>3271071 No I'm not. At any given moment, the SNES uses 16 palettes (8 for BG, 8 for FG) with 16 colors each. As early as the first level, Kirby's Dream Land 3 uses 8x8 BG tiles that use palettes not listed in any palette entry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:47:35 2016 No.3271110 >>3271082 if the SNES is anything like the GBC in that regard, you can swap out palette entries during HDMA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:48:45 2016 No.3271112 >>3269269 great looking game but tales is prob the prettiest snes rpg,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:50:10 2016 No.3271115 File: 839 KB, 416x265, Interesting.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3271110 Damn, that might be it Anyone know of any other SNES games that might do this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:53:11 2016 No.3271119 >>3271115 since I deleted >>3271110: I said it might be changing palettes during HDMA. I think it's more correct to say hblank for this use case, as DMA might not be involved for that.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:08:54 2016 No.3271143

>>3271112
SD3 has the better artstyle but ToP beats it in terms of tech and details like water reflections, dynamic shadows, extensive use of shadows in general, etc.

Some other neat looking games I can think of:
Bahamut Lagoon
Treasure Hunter G
Metal Warriors
Axelay
Wild Guns

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:12:03 2016 No.3271148 File: 111 KB, 400x291, Star_Fox_SNES.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3269213

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:15:09 2016 No.3271151 >>3271148 I'll never understand this. The game looks horrible, because it's intentionally bypassing all the cool features the SNES has. Why would you ever do that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:19:47 2016 No.3271153 >>3271151 What's not to understand? This is a thread about the most graphically impressive SNES games, and Star Fox is one of the most graphically impressive SNES games. Whether it's aesthetically pleasing or not is irrelevant to the topic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:21:15 2016 No.3271156 >>3271153 >What's not to understand? Why anybody would post this game as graphically impressive SNES game. It looks terrible and is practically an insult to what the SNES could do

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:23:53 2016 No.3271162

>>3271153
>>3271156
It's also relying on considerable amounts of add-on hardware (largely because, well, the SNES is not designed for what Starfox tried). So it's as much a SNES game as a Sega 32X game is a Genesis game. In a showcase it would be the kind of game you'd shamefully hide in the small print, instead of boasting about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:26:02 2016 No.3271164 >>3271153 A late 2D game with some nice artistry is probably better suited for SNES. Starfox shows off some ugly 3D, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:31:40 2016 No.3271176 >>3271162 >>3271164 None of these things make Star fox: 1. Not a SNES game 2. Not graphically impressive

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:38:06 2016 No.3271189

>>3271176
>Not a SNES game
It was bypassing ALL GPU functions of the SNES

>Not graphically impressive
It did in 1993 what a dinky DOS box, that couldn't do platformers to save its pitiful life, did in 1990. The system was ill-fitting for that kind of game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:39:43 2016 No.3271193 >>3271176 You're an idiot.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:42:09 2016 No.3271198

>>3271189
>It was bypassing ALL GPU functions of the SNES
Yet it's still a SNES game.
>It did in 1993 what a dinky DOS box, that couldn't do platformers to save its pitiful life, did in 1990. The system was ill-fitting for that kind of game.
It was graphically impressive for a SNES game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:43:53 2016 No.3271205 >>3271143 tales poster here good taste anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:13:19 2016 No.3271224 File: 490 KB, 412x360, dwafFAFda.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >holy shit, 3D, that is so cool! >oh wait, every game can do that these days Don't like the actual game much, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:51:50 2016 No.3271261 >>3269213 Star Fox or even Winter Gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNzrlxhir4

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:54:36 2016 No.3271268 >>3271193 you're moving the goalposts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:01:03 2016 No.3271274 If we're talking technically speaking, Yoshi Story's pushes the SNES to its limits with the graphical effects it pulls. It's basically Nintendo showing other devs "here is what you can do with our console".

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:04:30 2016 No.3271276

>>3271274
>Yoshi Story's pushes the SNES to its limits with the graphical effects it pulls
Yoshi's Story is using a Super FX chip. There's very little telling in how much it uses or doesn't use the SNES because of that

>"here is what you can do with our console"
if you got a couple thousand bucks spare change to stomach the costs of a co-processor in the cart

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:48:19 2016 No.3271449 >>3271274 >It's basically Nintendo showing other devs "here is what you can do with our console". as the console was on its deathbed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:50:38 2016 No.3271454 >>3271449 >on its deathbed was it really dying? Usually the manufacturer is killing them, by shifting support to something else

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:42:43 2016 No.3271587 File: 494 KB, 1280x720, 1465085392970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3269213 Stock Hardware: Seiken Densetsu 3 Chip enabled: Yoshi's Island

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:53:39 2016 No.3271617 >>3271587 that pic is tits

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