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[Anonymous No.3267070]

Blood Thread
Recently, I've been working my way through some of the more well-known user mods since I've finally figured out how to load unofficial maps. I finished Death Wish a little bit ago and that great, I'd even go so far as to say that it's better than the base game was. 10/10 add on. Also just finished the first episode of Bloody Pulp Fiction earlier today and that's pretty good too so far. The fuckhuge levels are awesome although there are a few frustrating bits every now and then. I'd probably give it an 8/10 in quality.

Anyone have any recommendations for what to play next? It'd be cool to get an essential Blood map list or something of the sort.

[Anonymous No.3267256]

play blood cm
:^)

[Anonymous No.3267276]

>>3267256
"no"

Anyways, whatever happened to the BloodEX source port guy? Did he ever give any kind of eta on that?

[Anonymous No.3267285]

>>3267070
Play Inherit the Earth and Hostile Takeover, they're kinda old and were also made by the DW author IIRC.

[Anonymous No.3267709]

>>3267276
Apparently it's been put on hold because he's been working on a turok 2 sourceport. I think he also did the Turok 1 remaster that was shat out onto gog and steam by Night Dive.

His work is good.

[Anonymous No.3267914]

How do I into blood modding ?

Also I love this game, as old as me and surely what started it all for me

[Anonymous No.3267921]

>>3267914
same way you do duke nukem 3d modding.

[Anonymous No.3267926]

I played blood coop with some guy from /v/ yesterday it was pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.3268074]

So your in the club with your girl when this little shit crudux cruos her right on the ass. What do you do?

[Anonymous No.3268079]

>>3268074
Sit back and enjoy the show, maybe even jerk off a bit.

[Anonymous No.3268086]

>>3267070

The Bioshock based addon episode is pretty cool

[NESfag No.3268195]

>>3267070
Have you tried RTCM and French Meat ?

RTCM goes a little overboard with cultists, so I recommend to play on skill3.
French Meat is a mixed bag but it has some great maps. They were working on a 2nd episode but I've heard it got cancelled...

Otherwise these are good too >>3267285
>>3268086

>>3267914
Have you ever used a Build map editor before? All of them work on the same base, so if you know how to make sectors in Duke3D you know how to make sectors for Blood. However, if you're asking, you probably haven't.
So the first thing you should do is find tutorials for Blood mapping, including some that explain the basic keys and features of Build.

Once you got that out of the way you can learn Blood's specifics. Each Build game works on a different system, but while being different, they're all similar (you build effects by tagging sectors and by using effect sprites and tagging them too).

You're going to have to use Blood's "mapedit" which works in DOSbox.


>>3267276
>BloodEX source port

No. There is no sourcecode so there can't be any sourceport. He may be reverse engineering the game, but he said here that he were remaking every behaviour himself, some based on the original code, but also some "empirical".

[Anonymous No.3268264]

[ ] mods
[x]"mods"

[Anonymous No.3268524]

>>3268264
What are you implying?

[Anonymous No.3268708]

>>3268086
Yes indeedy. Amazing how well the blood and bioshock themes went together. Perfect.

[Anonymous No.3268712]

>>3267285
I lovee this gifs

[Anonymous No.3269065]

>>3268195
>He may be reverse engineering the game, but he said here that he were remaking every behaviour himself

I think at that point you have to reverse the binaries somehow, just that he's not saying that because it could land him in a funny place than serious than a one of "spoiling" the trademark.

[Anonymous No.3270916]

Any good ways to play Blood without using DOSBox?

[Anonymous No.3271018]

>>3270916
Get a PC from the 90s with DOS.

[NESfag No.3271034]

>>3270916
I heard Virtual Machine did wonders, but the reason you're asking is because you can't be arsed to configure DOSbox, then this is not a solution.

However if you don't mind setting up virtual machine and the reason you're asking is because you don't get good performance in DOSbox, then it's worth checking out.

But before that you should try different DOSbox settings, or even DOSbox versions. Some people claim this does wonders (didn't make any difference for me though)
https://www.gog.com/forum/blood_series/make_blood_run_1280x1024_resolution_smooth_did_you_know/page1

[Anonymous No.3271161]

>>3268712
Some guy had made some really fucking awesome Blood gifs (or was it webms?) on cripchan. They were awesome static shots of various parts of the game, artistic af. I wish I had saved them. If anybody knows what I'm talking about please post them here. One of them had a microwave (I believe) and it's turned on to blow up a hand inside.

[Anonymous No.3271343]

Any way to open the level editor on modern machines?

[Anonymous No.3271371]

>>3268195
Thanks for the infos m8

[NESfag No.3271376]

>>3271343
It's a DOS program so DOSbox. It's the only map editor the game has.

[Anonymous No.3271414]

>>3271034
No I can configure and play it in dosbox perfectly fine, I was just wondering if there were better ways

[Anonymous No.3272556]

How about some lore-talking eh ?

What do you think happened to thr gargoyles after the events of the first BLOOD ?
And how did the cabal even manage to get to have them by their side in the first place ?

[Anonymous No.3273232]

>>3272556
Choegh was destroyed in the first episode of Blood by Caleb and he was the leader of all gargoyles. Yeah there were some stone gargoyles afterward but in plot, Choegh was one stone gargoyle above them all. They probably went into hiding or Caleb killed them all over/thinned their numbers. The cult has plenty of shady connections and dark magic they probably just sired Choegh and he brought his gargoyle along with him.

[Anonymous No.3273673]

>>3268074
I'd bitch slap him a few times just to hear his stun sound. "OUW!"

[Anonymous No.3273917]

>>3273232
I like to think that all gargoyles start at the flesh level, and those who've killed the most turn into stone, with cheogh being the most powerfull one and thus their kings. It's too bad we won't hear about them again.

[Anonymous No.3273940]

Why did they let you use the flaregun and napalm launcher underwater? Tesla Cannon should also hurt you underwater.

[Anonymous No.3274694]

>>3273940
the flares are magnesium so they can burn underwater

[Anonymous No.3275040]

Fuck Atari

[Anonymous No.3276178]

Update from Jace Hall famalam

http://www.twingalaxies.com/content.php/4192-Blood-Should-It-Live-Again

[NESfag No.3276232]

>>3276178
Start a crowdfunding, but based on what exactly?!

Only someone who has access to the sourcecode and who has already made some sort of deal with the right owner with crowdfunding as backup could start a crowdfunding with some sort of base to it.

Also I am sure that, in this day and age, everyone who has tried to acquire the rights to Blood (=several publishers and devs in the past few years) have thought of the possibility of crowdfunding already.... But IIRC Atari is asking like 1 million or some bullshit unreachable amount.

Jace is nuts. This is just cocktease.

[Anonymous No.3276237]

>>3276232
Yeah I think so too...

Honestly the more time goes on the more I think jace is full of shit.

I also think he could fully release the source code if he really wanted to and atari wouldn't give a shit, and I think he knows that. I feel like he's still trying to profit off of it in some way.

Crowdfunding for what exactly? For him to just make some phone calls and send a couple of emails just to see if he can revive the blood franchise? Eh.

[Anonymous No.3276335]

>>3276178
Man I'd give my soul for this franchise to go on

[Anonymous No.3276353]

>>3276178
>Perhaps its multiplayer BLOODBATH could even evolve to an eSport! ;)
No, stop this nonsense Jace.
We don't need a stupid crowdfunding, we need the source code. If money were the real problem behind it, then we'd start the thing ourselves.

[Anonymous No.3276418]

[Anonymous No.3276419]

>>3276418

[Anonymous No.3276420]

>>3276419
This is all the webms I got. I have some screenshots from the DeathWish mod which I thought made nice wallpapers.

[Anonymous No.3276421]

>>3276420

[Anonymous No.3276425]

>>3276421
I mean't to get some pics of the forest level, which looked really aesthetic imo. I'll noclip to it at some point

[Anonymous No.3276426]

>>3276425

[Anonymous No.3276429]

>>3276425
that's from death wish? hmm I don't remember that particular moment. I remember he used that statue a lot as a reference to tchernobog though. really cool how he used it.

[Anonymous No.3276430]

>>3276421
>>3276425
>>3276426
Turn down that gamma, holy shit

[Anonymous No.3276440]

>>3267070
How do I pulp fiction? I'm fairly new to modding and I downloaded the zip and extracted it in my Blood folder but the exe wont work and there is no batch file to drag to Dosbox

[Anonymous No.3276443]

>>3276429
It's around the bit where it is going into the Silent Hill maps. Can't really remember. late 2nd or early 3rd episode

[Anonymous No.3276498]

[NESfag No.3276541]

>>3276440
iirc it was a pain in the ass to install, it uses some custom installer that just didn't work. I don't remember how I ended up making it work but it took me quite some time.

And then the thing kinda sucked if you ask me, average at best. I spent more time trying to install it than to play it though.

My point? Don't bother.

[Anonymous No.3276774]

>>3276440
I just used the version that came with the BME 2015 map pack that I downloaded. It's missing the cutscenes but it comes with a .bat file and everything seems to work perfectly. The only change I had to make was to edit the .bat file to launch bmouse.exe before blood.exe. No hassle at all

[NESfag No.3276780]

>>3276774
>BME 2015 map pack
What's that?

Also anyone played New Alone In The Dark? I've never played it but it does look pretty good.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-alone-in-the-dark

[Anonymous No.3276791]

>>3276780
http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=542

This thing right here. It has just about all of the popular user maps and episodes plus a bunch of other neat stuff too.

[Anonymous No.3277246]

What does /vr/ think of the level design in Blood? It seems fine to me but I often hear people taking shit about the levels. I guess it isn't at the same level as Duke Nukem or the Death wish mod, but it ain't all that bad

[Anonymous No.3277332]

>>3277246
I'd say the levels range from amazing to just good. No real bad levels unless you count cryptic passage which is hit and miss mostly.

[Anonymous No.3277351]

>>3277246
Pretty good when they don't abuse cultists, which is why I hate E1 the most.

[Anonymous No.3277907]

>>3277246
I think blood has amazing level design I was always having fun even when I had to restart a level cause I never save scummed unless it was right before a platforming section

[Anonymous No.3278025]

>>3277246
Best level design of the 2.5D era imho. Despite the levels being huge and intricate only rarely do you ever get lost. Great aesthetic and atmosphere to them, too.

[NESfag No.3278038]

>>3277246
I used to think EP1 was the best because the other episodes aren't as detailed.

Now I like everything. It's true that the rest isn't as detailed while the shareware episode got a special attention to it, but every level is good. Classic Build level design where you can recognize a real life looking place it's based on but the layout remains pure Doom style.

Only the 2nd half of ep5 is more abstract, but I like those too because they allowed themselves to do more crazy things they may not have been able to pull had they sticked to an IRL look.

I can't think of big level design flaws, unlike for instance the first Redneck Rampage which has hidden switches or places that look very similar you could get lost into. Only issue I can think of on top of my head is the entrance to the secret level not working properly in Overlook Hotel but that's more a coding flaw.

Blood had a lot of levels, so we can't have them all be highly detailed... but in the end I'm glad it has so many rather than fewer but more detailed. Plus there is always some kind of Build trick or cool level design or visual effect going on.

>>3277332
I think the main issue with CP is that they did not get Blood's gameplay right. It's kind of a shame because in Sunstorm's add-ons for other games (Redneck Rampage, Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior) they did get use of enemies and weapons right for each game, except not for Blood.... Gameplay in CP feels like they were trying to copy DN3D gameplay instead so it doesn't work very well. Plus supplies balancing is fucked up with too many +100hp item.

Otherwise it has some good layouts and design. I like the theater and the library very much.

[Anonymous No.3278135]

I just started the rapture mod thanks to this thread and it's really good so far, reliving bioshock through blood. Enemy placements and the large number of hitscanners is a bit cheap though

[Anonymous No.3278292]

Here's a neat little review I found for Blood which pretty well sums the game in all it's underrated glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RluZuxrIh7A

I live for Blood threads

[Anonymous No.3279679]

>>3277246
Well I'd often find myself lost when I played it but not to the point where i'm just going in circles. The atmosphere is nice and detailed.

[Anonymous No.3280479]

I fucking hate stone gargoyles. On extra crispy it's a fucking ammo eater and always leave you weak after you gotta keep going.

[NESfag No.3280485]

>>3280479
Voodoo Doll or Tesla Cannon;

Always keep a voodoo doll for gargoyles, I sometimes use them for cultists who are in the distance or hellhounds, but I mostly use them for gargoyles.

Additionaly you can also just crouch and use the pitchfork and you will neither get hit or use any ammo. Gotta be patient though.

[Anonymous No.3282413]

>>3276237

>Honestly the more time goes on the more I think jace is full of shit.

noticed that too. Every time he's asked about Condemned he replies with "Top secret" but nothing ever happens.

[Anonymous No.3282529]

>>3279679
I've found it interesting that even if your turn the music off, every level has enough unique ambient noise to still keep the flow, its not dead silent

[Anonymous No.3282530]

Blood source code is a big deal, but what if we ever got our hands on Blood 2's source? Do you think people could pick it apart and improve all the buggy shit?
It felt like a decent game buried under bad code

[Anonymous No.3282620]

>>3282530
i'm pretty sure blood 2's source code was released lol. nobody cares.

[NESfag No.3282762]

I've played quite a few maps and episodes for Blood but I feel like I've missed out on a tons.

Just discovered this site, seems to have a decent download section with recent maps
http://blood-monolith.com/

I see several maps released in 2015 and 2016, which is pretty amazing, unlike SW which is kinda dead...