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3242197 No.3242197 [Reply] [Original]

I decided to play Ninja Gaiden on NES, as I've heard it is great and even better than the Master System version. I've played the MS version a lot, it's one of my favourites on the system.
So I started playing the NES version and I was disgusted. This version has clunky, unresponsive controls compared to the MS version, far worse graphics, worse music, and the powerups are odd and rarely useful.
Why do people prefer the NES version? It's shit.

>> No.3242228

>>3242197(You)

>> No.3242234

>>3242197
I love the MS version too but it is such a wildly different game, you can't compare it to the NES games.
The MS NG feels more responsive and modern than the NES couterpart, which makes it a cakewalk.
The NES ones have tight control and more sadistic level design, so people who love challenge will swear by those.

I feel that both have their merit.

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3242237

>>3242197
Arcade NG > SMS NG > NES trilogy

It's a shame the Megadrive game got shitcanned, looked really cool and a return to form to the arcade game, you know, back to the belt scroller style.

>> No.3242242

>>3242234
There you got your reasons, OP.

I can understand how you'd feel underwhelmed if you come from the SMS, but give the NES games a chance.

>> No.3242243

>>3242234
Shite design doesn't mean it's more challenging. You're probably the kind of fag that prefers Dracula X to Rondo of Blood because you died more often to cheap bullshit.

>> No.3242252

>>3242243

>You're probably the kind of fag that prefers Dracula X to Rondo of Blood because you died more often to cheap bullshit.

>le dracula x is a rondo port meme

Oh, it's you.

>> No.3242263

>>3242234
The NES version just respawns enemies too quickly. That and the crappy wall grab controls are the only difficult thing. They were fixed in the MS version and the game is way better because of it. The MS version focuses on challenging platforming and it is actually challenging, not cheap.

>> No.3242267

>>3242263

Why do you samefag? You already replied here >>3242243

>> No.3242269

>>3242267
That's not me, retard.

>> No.3242270

>>3242252
Dracula X was the leftover scraps handled by a B-team that poor Nintendildos had to settle on while the patricians had imported the superior game for their PC Engines.

>> No.3242279

>>3242270

In the meantime, your chav family could only afford an old Amiga so all you had was Amigavania lol

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3242291

>>3242279
>le Amigavania is a bad game meme
>implying I didn't own all the Castlevania games

>> No.3242292

>>3242291

>australia-kun posting from his phone again

Post a time-stamped pic with all your Castlevania games.

>> No.3242295

>Superfag gets blown the fuck out of the CV thread for liking a shitty boss so he comes here to satisfy his obsession with Australia-kun

Why am I laughing so hard?

>> No.3242298

>>3242295

Yes, Australia, /vr/ is just 2 persons, you and the guy who calls you for being you.

I especially love when you try to victimize yourself when you say "the guy who always calls everyone who dislikes CV4 australia-kun" when in reality most people on this board laugh at you for your other more hilarious memes, such as "The New Generation is better than Bloodlines", or "Amigavania is actually good".

Keep on shining, you crazy diamond.

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>> No.3242309

>>3242263
>>3242243
Stop whining like a faggot and git gud

>> No.3242313

>>3242298
>he's STILL trying to deny that was him
Oh god, I'm in tears. You're bad at hiding your whiny entitled attitude, mate.

>> No.3242315

>>3242313

Yes Australia, everyone who calls you out is the same guy, since you're so subtle and totally not obvious when you post.

>> No.3242318

>>3242315
>since you're so subtle and totally not obvious when you post.
Like how you were, when you were trying to act like you didn't have a clue who Australia-kun was, right?

>> No.3242321

>>3242309
Nice Dark Souls meme there, /v/.

>> No.3242324

>>3242318

I never said that and you're probably having a schizophrenic attack thinking everyone arguing with you is the same guy, even newfags who don't know who you are.

>> No.3242329

>>3242324
Yes I'm the schizoid, when you think everyone is Australia-kun. I'm totally convinced you're not a sheltered mentally ill child.

>> No.3242335

>>3242329

>always posts the shitty same files with the same filenames
>always posts the same bait, word for word
>multiple people have insulted him in multiple threads, everyone agrees Australia-kun is one of the worst /vr/ shitposters, not just on Castlevania threads, also American PC vs European PC, PAL vs NTSC, Sega vs Nintendo, the list goes on

And somehow I'm the schizo? What about me is recognizable? I'm not the only one who calls you out, in fact at first I thought you were funny but I'm started to get tired of you, wish the mods would finally IP range ban your ISP. Your ban alone would solve about 20% of /vr/'s shitposting, if not more.

>> No.3242343

>>3242335
Not him, but none of those things you greentexted are of schizophrenic behaviour.

>> No.3242348

>>3242343

The schizo part is that he thinks everyone who calls him out is the same guy.
Regular shitposters like him usually get nicknames because they're easily identifiable. It's funny that one of these kind of shitposters would call everyone else to be just 1 person, it seems like schizo behavior.

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>>3242309
So you purposefully play broken and sloppy games because their obtusely challenging?

>> No.3242360

>>3242348
Maybe your SCB, Dracula X and Nintendo fanboyism is more obvious than you think?

>> No.3242367

>>3242360

OK Australia, it's obvious you have some personal vendetta against Nintendo, the yanks, the NTSC encoding, etc. But didn't you think that it might be not just, but many Nintendo fanboys who call you out? And many american posters who call you out? Or many people who use NTSC because they don't care about PAL?
Easier to think it's just 1 guy, huh? Face it, you wanted to force a meme, but YOU became the meme.

>> No.3242380

>>3242367
You wouldn't be getting so defensive if you didn't know deep down that I'm actually right. You're the one that forces Australia-kun so much because you clearly have a fixation on him. You might want to see a shrink about your OCD and possible schizoid tendencies. Assuming everyone is your Australia bogeyman gets kind of annoying especially when all we're trying to do is discuss videogames here.

>> No.3242381

>>3242367
>hurr durr Nintendo is perfect, only t-trolls could ever say something negative of them

>> No.3242385

>>3242243
>not preferring dx or rondo
what a faggot

>> No.3242402

>>3242381
>>3242380

Oh Australia, how desperate can you get?

Face it, your shitposting is easy to spot, it's not just 1 guy obsessed with you.
You get called on because your memes are bad and you post all the fucking time.

I personally think you completely lost it when you claimed Amigavania was one of the best Castlevanias ever made. Before that you almost passed as credible. A bit of a crazy fanboy, but still credible.
After the Amigavania thing I just stopped thinking you were serious, I just think you want to shitpost, you really should get your ass permabanned.

>> No.3242412

Ninja Gaiden on Master System was OK...

but why did the Shinobi port suck so much ass?

>> No.3242489

>>3242412
Ninja Gaiden on Master System is the definitive Ninja Gaiden.

>> No.3242494

>>3242412
It's not that bad altough the gameplay is slower and most of the music was cut (atleast it has FM music), it still has most intact.

>> No.3242512

how does the master system version compare to the pc engine version?

>> No.3242514

>>3242489

Not the Arcade game?

>> No.3242549

>>3242514
The arcade game sucked.

>> No.3242572

>>3242549
So did the Master System version and yet here's this thread

>> No.3242591

>>3242572
If the MS game sucked then the NES trilogy were total dog shit. The MS game improved on the NES games in every way.

>> No.3242623

The NES version is fantastic.....on the PC Engine

>> No.3242653

>>3242237
>someone actually likes Arcade NG

Well i'll be damned. What's it like being the only one of your kind?

>> No.3242705

>>3242197

here's your Special Snowflake Award for Super Try-Hard Contrarians

>> No.3242709

>>3242591
>The MS game improved on the NES games in every way.

except in graphics, sound, gameplay, and every other intangible quality.

>> No.3242738

>>3242709
Now you're just lying through your teeth.

>> No.3242772

>It's a "false flagger compares two completely different games from the same series on competing and console warring faggots fall for the bait" episode.
You guys are easy to trigger.

>> No.3243010
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3243010

I have the first two of the NES trilogy. The controls are fucking fantastic you just need to git gud .
I beat the first one but the second is harder.

>> No.3243032

>>3242772
>anytime someone shows superior games on non-Nintendo systems to games on Nintendo systems, the Nintendorks always scream "console warrior!"

Amusing.

>> No.3243041

>>3243032

man, console wars are so cool, I don't get why people hate them.
Maybe it's because I missed living on that era, but having grown up on PS2 and PC, I admire the Nintendo vs Sega days, you guys also seem really passionate about it, like your life depends on it.

>> No.3243050

>>3243041

it's mostly adults clinging to the last few scraps of nostalgia they have left, their only bit of happiness left in this world. Not really something to admire.

People like OP are especially pathetic when they try to change popular opinions, he probably gets mad that in general Ninja Gaiden is synonymous with NES.

This thread could have been much better if it didn't even mention the NES game, we couldbe having a nice Ninja Gaiden SMS (which it's its own game, separate from the classic NES trilogy), but no, we have to have another console war thread, because OP is fed up with his nintendo foes.

>> No.3243052

>>3242402
>he's still trying to push his "multiple people use Australia-kun" argument
The only one that cares as much as you do is you, keep trying to deny it though.

>After the Amigavania thing I just stopped thinking you were serious
You probably never even played on an Amiga before, why don't you actually go play it instead of just assuming it's bad because your boogeyman enjoyed it?

>> No.3243063

>>3242623
Agree

PCE port has diff music but it still sounds good

There's less cheap deaths, and while there is choppy scrolling on some levels there isn't any flicker. The actual graphics are better than average for a HuCard

>> No.3243068

>>3243052

Not him but Castlevania on Amiga is ass.

t. I have played it many years ago, and would not do it again.

>> No.3243074

>>3242197
I never knew there was an SMS version.

>> No.3243079
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3243079

>>3243068
It's got great presentation, music, aesthetics, and is more challenging than the NES game... not sure what makes it ass.

>> No.3243092

>>3242237
>>3242653
Wait... wait... ... .... WAIT!
The MD version was never released? Are you sure? I know for a fucking fact I had a copy of it back in the day. I didn't like it because I thought it was just a shitty Streets of Rage.
Shit, if I still had it, how much do you think it would be worth?

>> No.3243093

>>3243079

I really wanted to like it since I love Amiga, but sorry, no. It has very bad music and especially bad gameplay. The graphics are OK but somehow it looks weird, it could have been MUCH better considering the Amiga hardware, both visuals and sounds. But the main problem was the gameplay, I don't know how anyone can enjoy that port, even the Commodore 64 version of Castlevania was better.

>> No.3243107

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-q0ugy4-E8

More epic than the NES rendition if you ask me.

>> No.3243114

>>3243092
You might've had a prototype/beta copy. It's probably worth a bunch on ebay.

>> No.3243129

>>3243114
I have no idea how the fuck I ever got it, even. I come home from horseriding classes afterschool one day and my brother had it. I tried it and thought it was shit, but if you pressed A+B+C at the same time, it warped to the next area and if you do it on the last stage, you get to see the ending, which was also shit. Just not a good game.

>> No.3243132

>>3243107

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7PFm7mrdVY

For comparison.

I don't agree with you by the way, I think it's a very bad rendition with slower tempo and the samples sound really bad, Amiga can do much better.

>> No.3243161

>>3243132
The slower tempo sounds more menacing to me, but to each their own.

>> No.3243180

>>3243092
>>3243114
Ninja Gaiden MD never got an official release, but it got leaked as a bootleg. Hence how got it dumped in the first place.

>> No.3243247

>AMIGAVANIA IS A GOOD GAME
>NOT FORCE MEEH MEEEH
>DHHHURRRUUURURUAUTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISMO GUY!

>> No.3243263

>the "Amigavania is a bad port of NEStlevania" meme

Can we stop already? The games are different, you can't compare them. Just like you can't compare Dracula X and Rondo of Blood because muh Nintendo.

>> No.3243271

>>3243263

Good luck trying to convince anyone that Amiga CV is good.

>> No.3243279

>>3243263

I wouldn't even call it a port. It's a disaster of game programming.
How did QA worked back in the day? Did Konami not give a fuck? Same with Capcom and the infamous Mega Man games for PC... what the actual fuck? You'd think companies like Konami and Capcom would care about how their games were presented, even if they outsourced it to other companies.

>> No.3243292

>>3243279
They didn't think the console and computer market were in direct competition, so they just outsourced to the lowest bidder. Although it's funny to think that the studio behind Ecco the Dolphin and Chakan made Amigavania.

>> No.3243726

>>3243074
How? It was a very popular game.

>> No.3243734

>>3243726
It's not even the same game.

>> No.3243781

>>3243263
Nah. Vampire Killer on the MSX2 is a different game from the NES Castlevania, despite both being titled Akumajou Dracula in Japan and coming out a month apart. Amigavania is just a shitty reworking.

>>3243292
They also made the shitty Contras on the original PlayStation, so they always had a hit or miss record to them.

>> No.3243829

>>3243734
Same as what? I didn't say it was the same as anything. Ninja Gaiden was just a very popular Master System game.