Which system had the most accurate light gun?

[Anonymous No.3239345]

*Light gun general*

[Anonymous No.3239375]

Some systems have more than one light gun.
Which is the one to choose on these systems?

Which retro consoles had no light guns at all?

Which is the most comfortable light gun?
Which light guns are uncomfortable?

Which light guns have good sights?
Which light guns have bad sights?

Which light gun has the best trigger?
Which light guns have shit triggers?

Which light guns are durable?
Which light guns break easily?

Which retro systems have many light gun games?
Which retro systems have few/no light gun games?

Rank the different console generations by number of light gun titles.

What is the best light gun for emulation on PC CRT?

Do PS1 light guns work on PS2?
Do PS2 light guns work on PS1?

Do SMS light guns work on Genesis?
Do Genesis light guns work on SMS?

Were there any light guns on systems before the NES?

Did any home microcomputers have lightguns?
Did any handheld systems have lightguns?

Which light guns let you dual wield?

Which light gun looks the coolest?
Which light guns look like junk?

Is there more than one technology/method behind different types of CRT light gun?

Which console has cheap light guns?
Which console has expensive light guns?

What are some hidden gem light gun games?

What makes a light gun game good or bad?

Are PAL and NTSC lightguns incompatible?

What is the best way to hold a light gun to get high scores?

[Anonymous No.3239474]

I mostly emulate my console games on my macbook.

I would love to play Time Crisis.

Is there a light gun I could use via usb or bluetooth that would not cost 80€?

[Anonymous No.3239487]

I've only tried the first Guncon and the official Dreamcast gun. Either the Guncon is top tier or Sega didn't know how to make a good lightgun for shit.

[Anonymous No.3239491]

This one was excellent and worked for years. The downside is it used some kind of batteries that died out and the gun stopped working.

[Anonymous No.3239550]

It's this (also the most comfortable). Arcade versions were more accurate, but PS1 was the best of the consoles.

>>3239474
Nothing that doesn't need an annoying lightbar that's meant to sit on top of your monitor.

[Anonymous No.3239558]

Speaking console-only stuff, the Super Scope was fairly accurate and easy to make precise aiming. The only downside is the 6 AA batteries it requires and the fact playing with it for long periods of time will get your arm tired.
How was the Menacer? it seems easier to hold than the Super Scope, but I never heard of any games for it.

[Anonymous No.3239695]

>>3239558
there were none
Menacer pack in
T2: The arcade game and bodycount are the only genesis titles. there is some fmv games on sega cd

[Anonymous No.3239705]

>>3239695
How was the pack in cart? From what I'm seeing it has some game with Toejam and Earl in it.

[Anonymous No.3239734]

>>3239345
What console gad the most games with light gun?

[Anonymous No.3239767]

>>3239375
Damn kid. You seriously need to learn how to use the google.

[Anonymous No.3239863]

>>3239558
Used to run through both the mech games then just see receding people dots when I closed my eyes for the next few hours

[Anonymous No.3239878]

>>3239550
This is correct, although the Dreamcast's gun is dead accurate too. Really all REAL light guns should have pretty equal accuracy it's the quantum leap backwards of the Wii caused by the step to flat panels that gives the impression otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3239939]

>>3239375
Thanks for the filter list anon.

[Anonymous No.3240326]

>>3239695
>Menacer pack in T2: The arcade game and bodycount are the only genesis titles

[Anonymous No.3240373]

>>3240326
I meant the menacer six game cart. Show me another one? I have the gun and both ntsc games and would love more.

[Anonymous No.3241375]

>>3240373
Lethal Enforcers 1/2 and Die Hard

[Anonymous No.3241415]

>>3239695
Theres actually an okay selection of Genesis/SCD Lightgun games... FFS Snatcher even supported it

[Anonymous No.3241435]

>>3241375
>>3241415

You guys are confusing the Menacer (Sega's own light gun) with Konami's Justifier.
Lethat Enforcers, Die Hard, and Snatcher do not support the Menacer.

[Heaven No.3241447]

>>3239375

[Anonymous No.3242761]

>>3239375
I actually like it when he posts these.

If he searched google then only he would learn.
This way all of /vr/ can grow in retro knowledge.

From what I have heard, the Master System actually has better light gun games than the NES.

[Anonymous No.3242769]

what is a good duck hunt score?

[Anonymous No.3242809]

Can a modded Wii U be used to play light gun games?

[Anonymous No.3242819]

>>3242809
Yes if you want to use the Wii remote as a pin-point accurate and not-fun zapper.

[Anonymous No.3242830]

>>3240326
How embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.3242835]

>>3242819
Is this passive aggression or an actual answer? I don't want to waste my money on a Wii U if I can't use it perfectly as an all in one console.

[Anonymous No.3243121]

>>3242835
it can, the wiiU's nes emulator does support zapper, and duck hunt has VC release

[Anonymous No.3245174]

How do light guns get along with flatscreen CRT TVs?

[Anonymous No.3245978]

>>3245174
Some say it doesnt but on mine zapper and ps1 guncon works perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.3245983]

>>3245174
nes lightgun works fine on mine

[Anonymous No.3247150]

YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
SAVE ME SHERI--YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD
YOU AIN'T GONNA GET ME SHERIFF
EAT LEAD

Playing it with the justifier is a fucking orgasm, I love it

[Anonymous No.3247330]

I have an original famicom and I've seen the prices for the famicom light gun which are way out of my budget (70-100 bucks on eBay) what are some other options for light gun compatibility on the original famicom?

[Anonymous No.3247337]

>>3247330
If you're alright fucking around with some soldering you can hook up a zapper using an extension cord and a schematic, I believe the neo-geo inputs are the same as the external point on the famicom, but I don't know if they'd be as cheap as just buying a crappy broken joycard or something.

Alternatively, a lot of famiclones came with guns that will plug right into a famicom.

[Anonymous No.3247346]

>>3245174
Depends on the type of flatscreen. Any lightgun will work perfectly on a flatscreen SD CRT, but the more common flatscreen HD CRTs with progressive modes and component inputs are usually a total bust.

>>3239878
The PS Move is almost bearable, although if you use it at close range it goes off track. You still have to rely on a cursor, so it's nowhere near as fun, but it's far better than the Wiimote and retarded aimtrak/top gun 3 trash.

[Anonymous No.3247367]

>still no decent way to play light gun games at home aside from owning a dozen cabinets and consoles
VR looks like the only hope, but nobody is going to bother porting all these old games. What I wouldn't give for a Sega/Namco collection with virtual arcade cabinets playing up-to-date ports of all their old games.

The closest thing to a solution right now is fucking around with a million mame based hacks and a rare as fuck USB2GUN board.

[Anonymous No.3247418]

The PS1 light gun had a breakout cable that let the gun connect to composite video. There was also stereo audio jacks.

What was the purpose of this when other systems' light guns just went into the controller port?

What technology was this?
Is this why the PS1 lightgun is considered the most accurate lightgun?

[Anonymous No.3247510]

>>3247418
By connecting to the composite sync the light gun could far more accurately determine its position. This kind of set-up was common in the arcades because the gun was just a sensor and a switch while all the calculations were on the gun board inside the cabinet with a known screen of a known size and resolution.

[Anonymous No.3247525]

>>3247510
Did any other systems than the PS1 use this method of directly tapping into sync?

Does the PS1 light gun also work on PS2 light gun games?

[Anonymous No.3247549]

>>3247525
The PS2 gun did the same thing, and most games with Gun-con 2 support also support the first gun.

The PS1 had another gun, the Konami hyperblaster, and it sucks in comparison. You've got to turn the brightness way up for it to see anything.

[Anonymous No.3247556]

Reminder that if your favorite light gun game wasn't made by Sega, you're a bad person.

[Anonymous No.3247691]

Some random light gun notes/thoughts.

The best light gun console is PS2. It's backwards compatible so you get all the great PS1 games plus Time Crisis Sequels and Virtua Cop Elite Edition collection

2nd place (though it's not VR) is the OG Wii.

YES the PS1 light guns work on ps2.

If you are looking for a flat screen crt for light guns look for Sony Trinitron.

I previously mentioned the OG wii for light gun games. There are great games like Ghost Squad, House of the Dead 2/3 and GunbladeNY/LA Machineguns- all made by Sega aka the king of light gun games (although Time Crisis, not a sega game, is the best series- Sega wins by quantity of good games)

[Anonymous No.3247703]

>>3239345
>*Light gun general*
No.

[Anonymous No.3247714]

>>3247691
Additional notes regarding guns, the wii games feel much more comfortable when you get the Zapper add on. Some Wii games even work with the Cabelas gun add on. Ghost Squad is one game that works well with the Cabelas gun shell.

As for PS1/2 the best gun is the P99K blaster. It works for ps1 & 2, has recoil and a foot pedal.

Also, don't sleep on the OG Xbox. Silent scope with a full size rifle is an experience in the home

[Anonymous No.3247763]

>>3247691
>>2nd place (though it's not VR) is the OG Wii.
Sorry dude, you're completely clueless and maybe also braindead. The Wii game are just barely playable on PS3, and not at all with the horrible Wiimote and insane latency.

[Anonymous No.3247951]

>>3247763
Get better batteries, use a 1st party sensor bar, re calibrate your controller. Problem solved

>Wii game are just barely playable on PS3

You must be brain dead, that sentence does not make any sense. Get the wii zapper & good quality wii mote, put the controller inside and it's a good experience.

[Anonymous No.3248095]

>>3247951
It's a terrible experience. Pretty much everything that came out for the Wii was ported to PS3 and can be played with the move, which is fairly close to 1:1 with only a frame of input lag.

Putting your already heavy controller in a dumb plastic attachment so it's horribly top heavy is the worst idea you could ever have.

The stuff on the Wii is set to retard easy mode to compensate for the fact that it's impossible to get any reasonably fast paced accuracy out of the gimmick controller of the century, and isn't really worth playing. At least the PS3 has HotD4 and Time Crisis.


Neither experience can ever hope to compare to something as basic as a NES zapper, but if you absolutely have to use LCDs, the Move is miles better. You're not going to be aiming down the sights, but that's unrealistic to expect from any current home setup.

[Anonymous No.3248106]

>>3247691

Agreed on the Wii, Ghost Squad is pretty badass and fun.

[Anonymous No.3248608]

>>3247337
ahh unfortnately i can't solder to save my life but thanks anyways. I can't believe how expensive Lightguns for famicoms were and they look pretty badass with that wild west look.

[Anonymous No.3248634]

Is there any great large CRT to use for light gun games? I used to have a 36" that finally died on me, it was an RCA.

I'd really like to find something truly massive (60" or bigger), but I highly doubt that's possible with light gun technology since it doesn't seem to work on projection screen TVs (Big shame since I have access to a movie theater's screen too).

[Anonymous No.3248641]

>>3239375
>light gun games

Pretty sure they're called "plastic pistol blasters," friend.

[Anonymous No.3248643]

>>3248641
I thought they were called bang bang games or is that what niggers and school shooters call it?

[Anonymous No.3248647]

>>3248641
Not every light gun is a pistol.

[Anonymous No.3248656]

>>3248634
36" is the largest size for consumer 480i (lightgun compatible) CRT TVs.

[Anonymous No.3249225]

>>3248634
Old CRT rear projection screens are what you're after, it's what all the deluxe cabinets used.

[Anonymous No.3249253]

I have a gun like this one, got it with pre-owned Dendy.

[Anonymous No.3249316]

>>3248656
mitsubishi megaview 40" was the largest sd consumer tube in the us, there were larger sonys in jpn.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-CS-40505-Diamond-Vision-40-CRT-Stereo-Color-Television-Base-/231952946762

[Anonymous No.3249319]

>>3249316
then there is or was these. The absolute pinnacle.
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/10/amazingly-huge-.html

[Anonymous No.3249323]

>>3249316
>>3249319
Getting a screen that weighs a million kilos is just stupid. Rear projection screens do the same shit without being insanely cumbersome.

[Anonymous No.3249405]

>>3249323
they have burn in problems and look like shit. tube tv is the only way to go. my uncle had an old rp tv and you couldnt use the gun from any sort of angle. had to switch seats to play. crt curls get you jacked, I do 200 every day.

[Anonymous No.3249503]

>>3249405
If you absolutely have to have a big screen, RP is the only way to go, and because nobody wants them, it's pretty trivial to find a high quality model that was thousands of dollars new for 20 bucks.

Any big screen is going to look like shit when you're blowing up a sub 480p image, it's not an issue inherent to the screen technology or something.

[Anonymous No.3250815]

>>3247418
>The PS1 light gun had a breakout cable that let the gun connect to composite video. There was also stereo audio jacks.

This device is popular with audiophiles.
The 500X model of PS has the same DAC as the 100X model but it lacks the RCA jacks.
The guncon breakout cable lets you connect headphones or speakers directly without having to use the TV out or use a coupler and extension cable at the rear of the TV.

I heard that the SMS lightgun isn't compatible with Genesis lightgun games and the Genesis lightgun isn't compatible with SMS lightgun games.
Is this because of different tech used in the guns or because of different programming in the games?

[Anonymous No.3250858]

>>3239375
>Did any handheld systems have lightguns?

inb4 some turbonerd proves me wrong but what would the point even be? How would it work? A lightgun the size of a thumbtack?

[Anonymous No.3251037]

My personal favourite is the Japanese official Dreamcast light gun. Makes me hate Madcatz so much more since they convinced Sega to Region lock the official gun, in order to sell their shitty one in the states.

[Anonymous No.3251084]

>>3239345

PS2 "Guncon 2"

[Anonymous No.3251516]

Do lightguns work with 'standard' projectors? Maybe something I could buy cheap off aliexpress?

I've got 14" and 20" PVMs but lightgun games feel a bit cramped.

[Anonymous No.3251556]

>>3251516
I believe you could get them working, but only with older CRT projectors.

You certainly can't use a light gun on anything produced today.

[Anonymous No.3251587]

Bust out your e-peens, gentlemen.

Who's got the best lightgun setup? I need pics

[Anonymous No.3251752]

>>3251587
gun and games

[Anonymous No.3251759]

>>3251752

tv setups
>>3236827
>>3236853

[Anonymous No.3252170]

This was the worst casualty of modern televisions.

The PSMOVE works decently, I don't think as well as a CRT, but even so there are only like 5 light gun games available. Time Crisis HD Collection when? The only CRT I have is 15 in which is fine for most older stuff but feels so cramped for light gun games.

[Anonymous No.3252183]

>>3252170
The move isn't decent, it's just about passable for the games available on it. I'd never want to play an older game with that system, aiming with a cursor cuts half the fun out of the game, and it frequently loses alignment.

If anything was going to bring it back as a genre, it'd be VR. I kind of wish that took off now, maybe we would have finally got a PC port for some of the later titles.

[Anonymous No.3252684]

>>3251759
i fuckin hate you

[Anonymous No.3252697]

>>3239939
>Using filters
Found the summerfag

[Anonymous No.3253240]

>>3252697
>thinking summer is a thing on 4chan anymore

[Anonymous No.3253308]

I have a nice PVM.

Is there any way for me to play PS1 and PS2 lightgun games without ruining the video quality through composite?

Do the PS1/PS2 keep the composite output on even when displaying through RGB scart? Is the Guncon 2 just a receiver of the composite video signal, or is it injecting it's own crap onto the tv?

[Anonymous No.3253332]

>>3253308
I have pic related(logic3 rgb-scart cable) which works with guncon via rgb scart, just plug the guncons composite connector to the yellow plug in the composite plug(on ps1 end) and it works.

[Anonymous No.3253409]

>>3247367
just get mame, a wiimote gun, a bluetooth sensor, and a wiimote mouse lib, nerd

[Anonymous No.3254589]

[Anonymous No.3254596]

>>3254589

See the gun? The butt and barrel can be removed to convert the rifle into a pistol.

This console is all boxed up in storage right now. I should dig it out and take a nice pic to show how realistic looking the gun is. You could probably use it to rob a bank...

[Anonymous No.3256342]

>>3254596

The real mark of a good lightgun is "could I get shot by the cops for this?"

[Anonymous No.3256346]

>>3256342
lol, in America the police will shoot you down if you walk around with a Super Scope.

[Anonymous No.3256441]

>>3256342
>>3256346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLorp7nyvc0

This one's my holy grail in terms of getting shot by the cops, but I can only find it online in blue. If I could find it in black I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.3258681]

>>3256342
Yeah, the cops totally check the quality and accuracy of a light gun before shooting little edgelords.

[Anonymous No.3258748]

>>3256441
>Super scope in blur
Are you colour blind or am I missing something here? I knew there was black but whaaaa?

[Anonymous No.3259474]

Real question: if the Genesis controllers work on Atari devices, does the Genesis gun works on Atari lightgun games? has anyone tried this? I have some of those games on an Atari XEGS computer and i found in a local store a Sega Master system gun.

[Anonymous No.3259802]

>>3258748

I was referring to the Uzi in the video I linked.

It's on ebay in blue, but I can't find a version in black like the kid has in the video.

[Anonymous No.3262034]

These days you see so many retro normies fawning over the N64.

It didn't even have a lightgun!! Truly the platform for idiots.

[Anonymous No.3262367]

>>3262034
>normies
>gun fetish
Be sure to let your fellow robots know before you go on your shooting rampage freak.

[Anonymous No.3262387]

>>3262034
I've found this N64 fascination lasts until firing up Goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.3264139]

>>3239345
period!
Cybergun Desert Eagle
and Desert Eagle .50AE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZKBelNcVSo