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3231729 No.3231729 [Reply] [Original]

Why did my Nintendo 64 and SNES cartridge stop working?

About 15-years-ago, I was messing around with a Game Shark I owned for my N64. I stuck a cartridge of Super Mario World into the top of the Game Shark while it was in my Nintendo 64, and turned on the power to my N64.

The N64 immediately stopped working, and was never able to be turned on, again. (The power wouldn't even come on.) And my copy of Super Mario World would no longer play in my Super NES.

Can anyone explain what happened? And why the Game Shark killed both my Nintendo 64 and Super NES game?

>> No.3231765

>>3231729
If I had to guess, it's because SNES games are not made to plug into n64 stuff, you probably shorted out both the console and game. What were you thinking?

>> No.3231768
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3231768

>>3231729
>I stuck a cartridge of Super Mario World into the top of the Game Shark while it was in my Nintendo 64, and turned on the power to my N64.

Why the fuck would anyone do that?

>> No.3231773

>>3231765
>If I had to guess, it's because SNES games are not made to plug into n64 stuff, you probably shorted out both the console and game
But why would that short-out the console and game cartridge? I don't get how connecting the wrong software-to-hardware would fry them both? And why didn't it kill the Game Shark, as well?

>>3231768
>Why the fuck would anyone do that?
I wasn't even 10-years-old, yet. I was a curious child.

>> No.3231775

>>3231773
Is your dad electronics?

>> No.3231779

>>3231775
>Is your dad electronics?
I don't understand the question.

>> No.3231785

>>3231773
You created a circuit between the cart and the console, but in doing so you burned out both by sending electricity through them in a way they were not designed to handle. Did the GS survive? It might have just acted as the bridge and gotten out okay.

>> No.3231804

>>3231729
OP, I had an internet wireless thingamabob that plugged into the motherboard. It got knocked while I was fixing some cables around the back of the PC, the PC BSODed, and the wireless card stopped working altogether.

You fried it, son.

>> No.3231809

>>3231785
>You created a circuit between the cart and the console, but in doing so you burned out both by sending electricity through them in a way they were not designed to handle. Did the GS survive? It might have just acted as the bridge and gotten out okay.
Alright. I reckon that's what happened. Thanks for explaining that to me. I wonder if anyone else has had any similar experiences.

>> No.3231817

>>3231804
>It got knocked
What do you mean?

>> No.3231832

>>3231817
Hit
Jostled
Nudged
Moved
Pushed
Unaligned
Shifted

>> No.3231837

If you pull out the controllers of a Dreamcast while it's on it can blow the fuse and stop working until you replace it

>> No.3231838

>>3231817
He had sex with it.

>> No.3231845

>>3231838
>He had sex with it.
The mother board must have been a milf.

>> No.3231873

>>3231729
Youre a filthy cheater
}>game shark

>> No.3231874

The N64 peobably ran electricity through a pin on the SNES that shorted out the cartridge chips, and it likely got routed back into a pin on the console that fried the console. The N64 and SNES do not have the same pinout configuration and mixing their cartridges is dangerous.

The gameshark is a passthrough device. Whatever pin shorted out the console, it must have somehow passed through the Gameshark without bricking it. It may very well have internal damage, but still boots up.

>> No.3231891

>>3231845
It is a "mother"board after all...

>> No.3232008

>>3231874
>The N64 peobably ran electricity through a pin on the SNES that shorted out the cartridge chips, and it likely got routed back into a pin on the console that fried the console. The N64 and SNES do not have the same pinout configuration and mixing their cartridges is dangerous.
>The gameshark is a passthrough device. Whatever pin shorted out the console, it must have somehow passed through the Gameshark without bricking it. It may very well have internal damage, but still boots up.
That explains a lot. Thank you so much.

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3232012

>>3231773
>I don't get how connecting the wrong software-to-hardware would fry them

>> No.3232017

>>3232012
What game is that GIF from?

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3232040

>>3231729

literally why

>> No.3232045

>>3232012
I didn't understand because I'm clueless how these things work.

>>3232040
I was a curious child.

>> No.3232051

>pull out Sonic 3 & Knuckles while it was still on as a kid
>got sad because the battery would no longer work in it

>> No.3232052

>>3232045

Well it's general knowledge that you don't mix and match random shit. Honestly OP this should have been a no brainer or solved with a simple google search. I did kek though, so thank you.

>> No.3232058

>>3231729
>welding required

>>3231773
>I don't get
Exactly, and now your shit's fried. Got what you deserve.

>>3231809
>similar experiences
Some guy stuck a fork in a toaster and created a circuit between the toaster and himself and burned both.

>> No.3232059

>>3232045
Don't feel too bad, when I was a kid I once accidentally broke the power button on the front of my TV, so I wound up sticking a long safety pin in there to hit the little 'on/off' switch the button was supposed to press. It worked for a while, until I accidentally slipped and crossed the metal pin over bare circuitry, resulting in a loud pop, a bright spark and the tripping of the house circuit. The only reason it didn't electrocute me was the pin's handle was plastic and that's where I was holding onto it at the time.
Point being, kids are fucking morons, don't feel bad that you were one once.

>> No.3232081

>>3232052
>Well it's general knowledge that you don't mix and match random shit
I was nine.

>this should have been a no brainer or solved with a simple google search
I chose to post it here to stimulate discussion.

>I did kek though, so thank you
You're welcome. But laughing at others won't get you ahead in life.

>>3232058
>Exactly, and now your shit's fried. Got what you deserve
You're a troll.

>>3232059
>Don't feel too bad, when I was a kid I once accidentally broke the power button on the front of my TV, so I wound up sticking a long safety pin in there to hit the little 'on/off' switch the button was supposed to press. It worked for a while, until I accidentally slipped and crossed the metal pin over bare circuitry, resulting in a loud pop, a bright spark and the tripping of the house circuit. The only reason it didn't electrocute me was the pin's handle was plastic and that's where I was holding onto it at the time.
>Point being, kids are fucking morons, don't feel bad that you were one once.
Ouch! You got lucky, anon. Funny how we do such things when we are younger. And no, I don't think kids are morons, because we are not intentionally ignorant; just unlearned and unexperienced.

>> No.3232097

>>3232059
I stuck a nail in an electric outlet and pulled it out with a magnet.

>> No.3232098

>>3232081
>Funny how we do such things when we are younger
Doesn't seem like many kids do this sort of hands-on learning much these days, the safer parents try to make things the less experimentation kids can enact themselves. Granted, nearly frying myself was not the best way to learn how electricity flowed through a TV, but I learned. I'm sure this thread could fill with anons describing dangerous acts of their youth that would make modern parents have a stroke, but ultimately those experiences made them better people, and without them they'd be less than they are now.

>> No.3232110

>>3232098
>Doesn't seem like many kids do this sort of hands-on learning much these days, the safer parents try to make things the less experimentation kids can enact themselves. Granted, nearly frying myself was not the best way to learn how electricity flowed through a TV, but I learned. I'm sure this thread could fill with anons describing dangerous acts of their youth that would make modern parents have a stroke, but ultimately those experiences made them better people, and without them they'd be less than they are now.
I agree. I still wouldn't want my child to stick experiment with something dangerous, however. Because if the experiment goes wrong, the child won't learn anything ever again.
There must be a better way to educate people about dangerous experiences versus hands-on learning.

>> No.3232136

>>3232110
>There must be a better way to educate people about dangerous experiences versus hands-on learning.
I don't know about that, learning-by-doing has always worked well for me and many others. It's sad, but imo darwinism plays a part in early childhood, even though we like to think ourselves above natural selection. I probably should have fried along with that TV back then, but was lucky enough to escape and take the lesson with me forward.

>> No.3232169

>>3232136
>I probably should have fried along with that TV back then, but was lucky enough to escape and take the lesson with me forward.
Too risky, though. And no honest parent (I hope) would want their child to experience such great risks for the sake of learning.

Being educated is good. Being dead is not.

But anyways, we're getting off topic with retro gaming. So if you want, go ahead and reply to this comment, and I'll read what you have to say. But I won't reply anymore to this discussion. Thanks.

>> No.3232198

>>3232136
>There must be a better way to educate people about dangerous experiences versus hands-on learning.
Pass on the wisdom of those that fucked up. Do you really think we looked at mushrooms and said "Yup, that shit'll knock you dead"? No, we ate them, hallucinated, threw up, and died a miserable death.

>> No.3232229

>>3231729
You reversed the polarities you fucking retard.

>> No.3232245

>>3232229
>You reversed the polarities
I don't understand how that would stop the console and game from working.

>you fucking retard
I don't consider this to be an insult, because there's nothing wrong with being retarded.

>> No.3232262

>>3232245
Sorry anon I was pulling your leg

>> No.3232702

>>3232081
Better a troll than a fool. You dun goofed in a real retarded way.

>>3232245
>doesn't know reversed the polarities
You said 15 years ago. You meant days ago, right? There is no way you are 15 years old.

>> No.3233051

>>3232017
yume penguin monogatari

>> No.3233102

i had a 64 gameshark

was fun as fuck while it lasted

my lil borthers friend sat on it and broke it

>> No.3233131

>>3232702
>Better a troll than a fool
Better a fool than an asshole.

Which I'm neither. And you're both. Sucks to be you.

I'm the good and the bad. You're just ugly.

>> No.3233190

>>3233131
Sorry kid but I can guarantee you it's better to be the asshole than the fool. I'm such an asshole I have 6 working N64s. How many you got sport?

>> No.3233202

Why the SNES game stopped working:

you sent 12 volts into address bus lines A1 and A22, which immediately overloaded whatever chip those buses were connected to in the board, permanently destroying it.

Why the n64 console stopped working:
My guess is that the data bus lines for the chip on the SNES game weren't isolated from each other and the voltage jumped to the other address bus lines, overloading one or many chips in the n64 itself, and permanently destroying them.

references:
http://wiki.superfamicom.org/snes/show/Schematics%2C+Ports%2C+and+Pinouts
http://n64.icequake.net/mirror/www.crazynation.org/N64/
http://www.gamesniped.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/NINTENDO-SNES-PROTOTYPE-PCB-EPROM-CARTRIDGE-BOARDS-GAME-DEVELOPER-CARTRIDGE-LOT7-3.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/N64-cartridge-chip_side-wo_heatsink.jpg

>> No.3233206

>>3233190
>Hurf durf I measure my quality of life by the sum of my material possessions.

In time you will either live to see the folly of your ways or die deluded.

>> No.3235850

>>3233206
At least I won't die by sticking a key in a socket like you.

>> No.3236998

>>3231729
>tfw I was 13 I thought my Playstation 2 power cable would work with my laptop
>didn't
>tried using it with the PS2 after
>the PS2 broke too

>> No.3237007

>>3232245
>there's nothing wrong with being retarded
wew lad

>> No.3237124

>>3236998
Slim PS2? Because otherwise is prefectly compatible, it's a standard C7 cable...

>> No.3237137

>>3231729
Nobody is this stupid. Timestamp.

>> No.3237146

>>3236998
not retro but
>friend gets free ps3 from drug dealer
>no power cable
>pull a random cable from a laptop charger
>free working ps3

>> No.3237151

>>3237146
>wow internal power supplies

Not

>> No.3237158
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3237158

n64 gamesharks broke down on me frequently

>> No.3237173

>>3232059
Better than being the idiot of a child who thought it'd be a swell idea to stick the aluminum in the mentos wrapping into an outlet.

While it's switched on.

From that day on my dad left a fire extinguisher in the house in case I was ever stupid enough to do that again.

>> No.3237649

>>3237151
At least internal PSUs needs to have some decent circuitry in them to stay alive, the "powerbricks" for the most part are shit, the cheapest of the cheap...

>> No.3237668

>>3237649
True that. I got a replacement power brick for my laptop ~7 years ago, and at some point realized that I couldn't use my crt tv (that was coax in only) while the brick was plugged in because the interference would completely fuck with the picture; absolutely no graunding or signal isolation on that fucker.

>> No.3237818

Just realized I have one that I haven't used in years. I could sell it to you.