Was Sega just a one-hit-wonder? They couldn't seem to be able to capitalize on the Genesis success.

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Anonymous Mon May 16 11:01:06 2016 No.3218931 [Reply] [Original]

Was Sega just a one-hit-wonder? They couldn't seem to be able to capitalize on the Genesis success.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 11:02:41 2016 No.3218934 >inb4 Tom Kalinske was a genius& SoJ was jealous nips

Anonymous Mon May 16 11:04:00 2016 No.3218936

>Was Sega just a one-hit-wonder?
Ya that whole like nearly 80 years of making arcade games. Ya you modern gamer kids wouldn't know about that. To be fair I thought they only went back to the 80s maybe late 70s until I learned about their origins in the 2000s.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 11:05:24 2016 No.3218939 They made a lot of great games, the console market is tough to crack though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 11:07:11 2016 No.3218947 >>3218936 >Ya You sound like a faggot, just so you know Ya

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 11:11:20 2016 No.3218958 >>3218947 >faggot Thanks for further confirming your age.

Anonymous Mon May 16 12:21:23 2016 No.3219082
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>>3218931
SEGA still manufactures and publishes great games but your head is so far up your ass(no offense) and obsessed with Nintendo,EA,Activation,DICE or whatever newest marketing magnate is and simply don't hear anything about them.
Pic related is the best modern game ive played in recent times.
Great humor,short but sufficient and so much fun to play I mean the gameplay is simply amazing.

If you do decide to play turn off voice control they just get in your way.

Anonymous Mon May 16 12:23:56 2016 No.3219087

>>3219082

Both Sega and Nintendo are great though, it's good to see them working together shipping great games like F-Zero GX or Bayonetta 2, I wish it'd happen more often (and not just Mario and Sonic at the olympics, I'd like to see a proper Mario and Sonic platformer that's actually good).

EA, Activision and DICE can suck my balls though

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 12:26:04 2016 No.3219089 >>3218931 Obvious bait thread. This is literally nonsense and you know it. I'm not asking you to kill yourself, but you should probably sit your parents down and let them know you need help.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 12:37:44 2016 No.3219117 >>3218931 Everybody knows that Nip racism and Bernie Stolar fucked the company.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 12:39:03 2016 No.3219120 >>3219117 >Nip racism Fucking meme. Fucking Kalinske cocksuckers. Stoler was a mistake though.

Anonymous Mon May 16 13:10:20 2016 No.3219176

Which was their one hit? They were one of, if not THE, most recognisable arcade game publisher. They had two hugely successful consoles (MS and MD), two mildly successful consoles (Saturn and DC), they still publish good games today, and they are doing well financially. Why do Americans think games revolve around Nintendo?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:12:21 2016 No.3219179 >>3219176 Why do Europeans always think they know anything about America?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:17:08 2016 No.3219187 >>3219176 Sega was pretty big in America and in Japan, Sega was mostly seen as an "american-like" brand. Nintendo is big in Japan first and foremost.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:17:17 2016 No.3219189 >>3219179 I know you're less than 60% white, so get ready for you total and utter collapse.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:20:57 2016 No.3219192 >>3219187 Then why did Americans support Nintendo's home consoles so much? Nintendo wasn't even a great arcade publisher. They had maybe three notable, yet mediocre, games.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:22:14 2016 No.3219196 >>3219192 Great marketing and availability.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:27:25 2016 No.3219213 >>3219192 >They had maybe three notable, yet mediocre, games. Your own opinion. Also, Nintendo had even better support in Japan than in USA. You just seem salty about Nintendo for some reason. Your school bully was a nintendofag?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:34:04 2016 No.3219228 >>3219176 Their one hit was sega genesis. All their other home consoles were massive failures. Especially those 32x and sega cd addons. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:58:45 2016 No.3219271 >>3219192 Nintendo oriented most of their games towards a family audience, which probably increased sales.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 13:59:56 2016 No.3219273 >>3219228 >Especially those 32x and sega cd addons. What the fuck were they thinking? They were desperate to keep the Genesis success as long as possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 14:08:41 2016 No.3219290 >>3219228 >I got all my knowledge of Sega from watching AVGN videos. t. underage

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 14:42:20 2016 No.3219340 >>3219187 Sega were particularly strong in Europe. Nintendo has always been a bit player there.

Anonymous Mon May 16 14:49:35 2016 No.3219361
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>>3219290
I actually have a genesis hooked up in my room. But the games for 32x / sega cd arent better than ones for regular genny
>hard mode : no rpgs or sw arcade

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:08:04 2016 No.3219395

>>3219228
>I can't make my own valid opinion without having some e-celeb shit one for me
>>/v/
sounds more suitable for you.

>>3219187
>Sega was pretty big in America and in Japan

Don't forget the europoors during the master system and Mega drive days. They were more successful than Nintendo there

Also Huehueland where they still sell Master System and Genesis stuff in this day and age.

>Sega was mostly seen as an "american-like" brand

that was mostly during the genesis days. Once the saturn launched, things were much different over in Japan.

Sega was very successful in the arcades during the mid 80s to imo the early 00s.

>what are the super scaler, model 1-3, System 16, and Naomi?

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:10:50 2016 No.3219403

>>3219395
>Don't forget the europoors during the master system and Mega drive days. They were more successful than Nintendo there

A lot of people forget that there were so many SNES games not released in Europe, while Sega put out 99% of its USA catalog there + a few things from Japan that never made it to USA (Zero Wing, etc).

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:19:50 2016 No.3219417

>>3218934
You got some dirt?
Not to say that Tom Kalinske was the end-all genius he's often claimed to be (or claims he is), he was clearly working with some talented people, benefited immensely from that and then got out at the right time. But it does seem a lot that conditions at SoJ and the way the two divisions weren't communicating really did kill the company, though neither parties really realized the ramifications at the time.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:25:58 2016 No.3219426

>>3219340
>Nintendo has always been a bit player there.
And not for the lack of trying. It's been treating us as an afterthought third world continent since the NES days. I'm so fucking grateful for famiclones back in the day, because Nintendo itself sure as hell wasn't making it attractive or easy for us to support them directly. And over the years, you can only get enough of the shit treatment until you start supporting the other guys instead.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:29:20 2016 No.3219432

>>3219403
>>3219426

So Nintendo really didn't seem to care about the PAL region. Just an assumption I'm making since the NES had alot of competition from PCs and Master System I'm assuming and I admit I have no knowledge about the 64 in PAL region so idk how it might of done maybe better or worse than the Saturn?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:31:50 2016 No.3219438 >>3219228 The Master System was hugely successful.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:32:26 2016 No.3219440 >>3219290 >>3219395 I played sega before e celebs were a thing, so im not sure what you´re getting at.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:35:13 2016 No.3219443

>>3219179

Because people from most other regions of the world know alot about America as they also know about other regions other than their own. Just because Americans know so little about anywhere outside of their borders doesn't mean the rest of the world works that way. Almost anywhere you go in the world it's a running joke how clueless Americans are about the rest of the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:37:53 2016 No.3219447 >>3219271 Especially in such a weird Christian culture like the United States. Their non-controversial nature appealed to the religious cuck parents.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:40:20 2016 No.3219452 >>3219432 The SNES and even more so the N64 were hits. The NES while popular wasn't as big.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:46:29 2016 No.3219460 >>3219452 Really the SNES? I thought the Amiga or ST and the Genesis and Master System were the more popular options during that time? I'm not trying to correct you either btw but I wanna get an idea before making a conclusion out of my own ass.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:49:07 2016 No.3219464

>>3219452
>SNES and even more so the N64 were hits.
No, the Gameboy was a hit.
Both SNES and the N64 had less market share than the competition and I remember the game selection on the SNES in particular being extremely limited over here compared to that of Sega. Sure, I knew people who had one back in the day, but they usually only had 2-5 games for it, while we Segatards had so many games we were bartering them like we did with pirate carts during the famiclone days. Hell, a lot of us didn't experience the SNES properly until emulation, not because of any console war retardness, but because Nintendo decided that their console should be a high class item over here with games that never went on sale, resaulting in stacks of unsold consoles and first wave games gathering dust on the shelves at their original prices well into the 32-Bit era.
And that obviously pissed the retailers off, so they welcomed Sega and later Sony with open arms.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:55:39 2016 No.3219475

>>3219452
Dude, SNES had like no presence in Europe before DKC and even after that Sega were still king.

The N64 was completely ignored in Europe. The whole continent had a hardboner for Sony. I think the only PAL country that was a relative success for N64 was Australia (Sony still won of course).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:55:52 2016 No.3219476 >>3219395 >>3219403 >>3219432 >>3219452 >>3219460 >>3219464 3rd world countries do not matter. Not in the least.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:56:45 2016 No.3219480 >>3219476 Shut up Cartman.

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:37:10 2016 No.3219601

>>3218931
Atari was the real one hit wonder. One successful console (the 2600 not counting the Pong console). Had a shit ton of great arcade games and still had some good games here and there. But as far as console went Atari was out of luck after the 2600. Sega on the other hand while their other consoles may not have gotten as much love as the Genesis still have a cult following. Most notably the Dreamcast and to a lesser extent the Saturn.

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:41:07 2016 No.3219614
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>>3219601
Atari ruled the arcade market though, and you have to remember that back then, that was a huge deal, even more profitable than the home console market.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:50:04 2016 No.3219632 ITT triggered segacucks

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:58:58 2016 No.3219654

>>3219614
Yes they did. Atari did pretty well with their arcade games. But when it came to making a follow up console to the 2600 the results were lackluster. The 5200 was a flop, the 7800 didn't fare too much better, and the Jaguar was a colossal failure. My point is that Atari only had one truly beloved console. Sega on the other hand did a little better in that department when it came to making a follow up to the Genesis. Sure maybe not sales wise but in terms of having a cult following. Sega's last console was the Dreamcast. A system that while it did not sell well there are many people who are fans of it. Unlike the Atari Jaguar.

>>3219632
Some people yes. But not all are triggered "segacucks"

Anonymous Mon May 16 17:23:56 2016 No.3219694

>>3219654
>it did not sell well
It was the fastest selling system at the time and was still netting Sega a profit when the decision to abandon it was made.
In a healthier environment where Sega could afford to compete with Sony, it would have been a success.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:36:10 2016 No.3219719 >>3219443 >huehue Americans so dumb >but don't stop giving us money >and keep protecting us with your military >we're still going to make fun of you because entitlement No wonder Americans don't bother to learn about other cultures.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:44:50 2016 No.3219731 >>3219719 >giving us money >needing your military I'm no fan of the "hurr, stupid Americunts" attitude either, but you are only furthering his point.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:49:38 2016 No.3219738 So theres no real reason to get a sega cd or 32x right? I asked earlier and people just said i was an e celeb

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:52:17 2016 No.3219743 >>3219738 Only if there's a specific game you want to play. Can pretty much cound on 1 or 2 hands the games worth playing on both systems.

Anonymous Mon May 16 17:56:34 2016 No.3219759
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>>3219738
Sega CD is worth it if you can get your hands on one for a decent price. Got a pretty nice library and games come cheap since you can just burn them without modding it.
32X only has about 39 games, and I'd say only around 9 of those are really worth having at most, so maybe attractive if you'd like to own an entire "systems" library, but otherwise not something I'd bother with.

Anonymous Mon May 16 17:56:35 2016 No.3219760

>>3219731
>who is the greatest contributor to NATO and UN funding
>what is the Marshall plan
>who has several military treaties and bases for countries too poor to field proper militaries
>which country spends the most on foreign aid
>which country, out of all in the world, did Ukraine specifically ask for help when Russia invaded Crimea

Anonymous Mon May 16 17:58:03 2016 No.3219763

>>3219738
Without the nostalgia factor, not really. Pretty much all of its top games were done just as well or better on other platforms.

The rest of it was FMV games. I just looked up one of the FMV games I played as a kid and I got feels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4oyAKXUYak

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:23:05 2016 No.3219802 >>3219743 I need one to play snatcher sonic cd popful mail and lunar according to vr, but sega cds are kinda pricey desu

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:26:52 2016 No.3219807 >>3217156 Saturn was a success in Japan and the Dreamcast was more profitable than the original Xbox. Just not enough when they could make more by going third party.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:28:59 2016 No.3219809 >>3219807 How the fuck did I respond to the wrong post that hard

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:29:04 2016 No.3219812 >>3219760 Take this political bullshit to /pol/. This is a board for discussing retro games. Not politics.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:37:58 2016 No.3219832 >>3218931 Nope: North America - Genesis, Game Gear South America - Master System, Mega Drive Europe/Austraila - Master System, Mega Drive Asia - Saturn, Pico 2-hit wonder

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:53:10 2016 No.3219861 >>3219452 When talking about Europe it depends on the country, of course. In Germany, where Nintendo is headquartered, the NES, SNES and Gameboy were huge successes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:56:13 2016 No.3219869 >>3219361 The Master System wasn't a "massive failure" however you look at it. While the Saturn and Dreamcast were commercial failures they still have solid libraries, so could be considered successful in other areas.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:02:16 2016 No.3219882 >>3219869 Saturn was successful in Asia. Had a higher LTD than N64 despite having a premature death.

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:03:26 2016 No.3219886

>>3218936
Clearly Op wasn't talking about the arcade market.

They still make good games, but in terms of business you could call them something of a one hit wonder. I think the Dreamcast would have done much better if the PS2 didn't exist and Sega wasn't reeling from the Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:22:10 2016 No.3219950 >>3219882 >Saturn was successful in Asia. Not successful enough to turn it into a profitable console.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:44:49 2016 No.3219994 >>3219228 The Mega CD was originally launched in 1991, two years after the Mega Drive launched, to compete with the PC Engine CD. It was a success and wasn't made 'to prolong the lifespan' of the Mega Drive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:01:37 2016 No.3220023 >>3219082 It's just a Gears of War clone with bullet sponge enemies and a shitty cliche storyline. I'm betting that you don't play very many video games.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:18:52 2016 No.3220051 >>3219760 Dude, you're bad publicity for the US really. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:20:15 2016 No.3220056 >>3219807 >the Dreamcast was more profitable than the original Xbox and probably more than the Wii U as well. But yeah, the internet love anti-Sega memes such as "Game Gear has no battery life" and the likes. Still beats the original 3DS.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:21:54 2016 No.3220058 >>3219807 Then why did they go bankrupt and need some other guy to step him and give some of his personal finances to save Sega?

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:23:10 2016 No.3220063

>>3219994
>prolong the lifespan of the Mega Drive.
Yeah, that was the 32X. Which aims were to lift the color limitations of the aging Megadrive, and provide a boost without having to include extra chips in cartridges (more powerful than the SuperFX and made more sense than having to buy the special chips again and again each time you were buying a new game).

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:28:16 2016 No.3220075

>>3220058
Because the market is fucking stupid. Pop bands such as One Direction and Jonas Brothers aren't particularly huge contributors to the music industry quality-wise, but still are insanely successful when it comes to printing money. Nintendo is still around sure, but that only proves their shitty business tactics and monopolistic behaviors worked oh-so-well for the general public. Most of their games are just that bland and uninspired.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:28:47 2016 No.3220076 >>3220063 >SuperFX Do you mean SVP? Sega didn't produce SuperFX chips.

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:31:58 2016 No.3220085

>>3220056
The Dreamcast did sell more than what the Wii U has presently sold. I don't understand the hate for the Game Gear, it had an AC adapter and the battery life wasn't even bad. Americans should have loved it, as it let them play some great Master System games that were never released there.

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:35:28 2016 No.3220094

>>3220085
>The Dreamcast did sell more than what the Wii U has presently sold.

You know that feeling where you know what someone says is both true, and reasonable given the facts, yet you still feel like they're fucking lying despite that? You're giving me that feeling right now, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:42:37 2016 No.3220110 >>3219950 It was profitable in Japan. It was the failure of the US that caused Sega to lose money. I had an article on Sega-16 but the citation seems to be ead

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 21:00:52 2016 No.3220138 >>3220051 >argument gets trounced >doubles down on bashing America Jealous foreignfag confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 21:48:06 2016 No.3220278 >>3219760 >which country, out of all in the world, did Ukraine specifically ask for help when Russia invaded Crimea How'd that work out for them, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 21:53:17 2016 No.3220291 >>3219869 The Master System and the Genesis were HUGE in South America. Not sure how that translated to profits for Sega though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 00:23:44 2016 No.3220584 >>3220110 >It was profitable in Japan Only barely. The Saturn was sold at a big loss even in Japan to compete with the PS1. What made Sega some money was they sold a lot of Saturn games there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 00:29:21 2016 No.3220597 >>3220291 Niche market.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 00:33:23 2016 No.3220608 >>3218931 Was that time I deepthroated your mom a one-hit-wonder?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 01:02:00 2016 No.3220663 >>3219614 That guy sure is having fun playing Steroids

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 01:07:36 2016 No.3220670 >>3219087 It really annoys me that everyone is now ready to mark Nintendo as garbage has beens just because that new Star Fox game wasn't a stellar success. Come on, every company makes mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 01:12:29 2016 No.3220674 >>3219614 They did in the US, sure, but weren't Sega and Namco the big guns over in Japan?

Anonymous Tue May 17 01:16:44 2016 No.3220682

>>3220674
>>3219614
oh, never mind, I didn't bother to read the comment you were responding to until now.
>>3219601 can go fuck themselves
also with what I already said though, now that I think about it, the same could be said of Sega as well. Atari did have a firm grip on the US arcade market, but Sega had just as firm a grip on the arcades in Asia and to a lesser extent, Europe.
Speaking of europe, The Master System and Game Gear were much more successful over there than the US.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 01:17:59 2016 No.3220684 >>3220023 sure if you say so

Anonymous Tue May 17 01:18:42 2016 No.3220686

>>3219475
>before DKC
where the fuck are you getting that benchmark from, can you give me a source? Sure the SNES wasn't that successful until later on, but citing DCK as when it started to have a presence seems more based on what game you liked than actual fact.

Anonymous Tue May 17 02:23:59 2016 No.3220782

>>3219192
Nintendo filled a hole in the market that was left vacant after the video game crash. They were first to strike when demand was ramping up again in the wake of there being no viable game consoles in the mid-80's. Everything by the competition was a reaction to Nintendo's success.

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 04:25:00 2016 No.3220938 >>3220110 >It was profitable in Japan. So? It still failed overall. If the console lost money, as you accept it did, it was a commercial failure.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 04:32:19 2016 No.3220945 >>3220291 You're not sure how selling products translates to profits?

Anonymous Tue May 17 04:32:55 2016 No.3220947

>>3218931
Nope, Master System and Mega Drive were both successful in South America and Europe. While Master System didn't catch on in the US, it was later rebirthed as Game Gear which did catch on in the US.

In Asia, Saturn was Sega's only successful console, but Sega was basically THE arcade company in Asia, if that counts.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 05:04:17 2016 No.3220989 >>3220782 Did the video game market in America really crash? Did you have arcades and computer games at least during that time?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 05:10:01 2016 No.3220998 >>3220989 Yeah, a lot of people would play games on Commodore 64 after Atari 2600 died out.

Anonymous Tue May 17 05:31:39 2016 No.3221025

>>3220989
There were arcades, but since Atari was the biggest arcade licensee in the early 80's, production output slowed down when Atari was restructuring, which meant arcades weren't getting new games as quickly, which meant a lot of arcades went under.

Computers were there, but computers in the early 80's were really pushed as an educational item or for business, and were seen more as a luxury item for white-collar families than as an alternative gamiung device. Micro-computers didn't take off in the U.S. like they did in the UK, and while it's entirely anecdotal, I personally didn't know anybody that had a PC until Windows really became the standard. The only Macs I knew of were the ones at school, once again as an educational tool, and not for games.

Anonymous Tue May 17 05:46:38 2016 No.3221040

>Sega
>one-hit-wonder
More like no-hit blunder. Their only "success", the Genesis, barely even made a dent in Nintendo's side, whose SNES still managed to outsell it globally ten to one. Fuck Sega. I still laugh about all the fuck ups they made when they were still alive.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 06:00:08 2016 No.3221052 >>3219082 The story was so cringe-inducing I couldnt stand more than 90 minutes of it, and stopped playing games altogether for several days.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 06:05:10 2016 No.3221058 >>3221052 I see well not everyone can have deep stories like mario borthers and pong.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 06:07:45 2016 No.3221063 >>3221025 Why did Americans like Apple shit? Didn't you have Amstrad or Acorn?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 06:11:26 2016 No.3221064 >>3219719 You're just proving his point anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 06:29:06 2016 No.3221073 >>3221040 SNES didnt even outsell Genesis 2:1, let alone ten to one. Just like a SNESfag to not be capable of doing correct math.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 08:06:01 2016 No.3221141 >>3221064 >can't into irony and entitlement

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 12:58:50 2016 No.3224175 >>3218931 lol shit tier company couldn't handle of the success of marketing only to autists, amazing

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 13:23:51 2016 No.3224212 >>3224175 >sega markets to autists >says the person shitposting the same thing in every sega thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 13:32:32 2016 No.3224230 >>3224212 So you scour through every single SEGA thread on /vr/, to the point you can distinguish the guy you are replying to, instantly? And you claim not to be autist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 13:37:53 2016 No.3224239 >>3224230 The last post of every sega thread says "shit tier company." How stupid would you have to be not to notice?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 14:03:21 2016 No.3224295 >>3224239 >every sega thread Concession accepted.

Anonymous Wed May 18 14:47:35 2016 No.3224373
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Genesis is awesome, but they didn't need to make sega CD or 32x. I would've felt ripped off to buy that shit then find out the games aren't better than base genesis games for the most part.
they should have skipped the addons and went right to Saturn but made it as cheap as Playstation to compete.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 17:09:27 2016 No.3224609 File: 14 KB, 500x596, you are this worthless.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3224373 >but made it as cheap as Playstation to compete Spotted the underage youtuber who wasn't alive back when this all went down.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 18:35:30 2016 No.3224768 >>3221063 Because Apple is an American company so they support it and they used good marketing propaganda. Americans are notoriously easily brainwashed by marketing tactics.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 18:36:10 2016 No.3224770 File: 20 KB, 171x282, you winning dad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3219614 Shiggy diggy

Anonymous Wed May 18 18:39:34 2016 No.3224773

>>3221040

But the Genesis (Mega Drive everywhere else in the world except USA and Canada because there was already a copywrite for Mega Drive in North America so the console's actual name is the Mega Drive so it's stupid to call it the Genesis) wasn't their only hit. The Master System was a hit, the Saturn was a hit, their arcade games were hits, even the Dreamcast was a hit it was just short lived.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 23:07:53 2016 No.3225345 >>3224373 The Mega CD came out in 1991, you idiot. It was successful and had a good library of games. You sound like a 14 year old AVGN fan.

Anonymous Wed May 18 23:14:23 2016 No.3225357

>>3225345
> successful
I thought the reception was lukewarm at best and the Sega CD just broke even.

> good library of games
Sure FMV stuff and games that were just enhanced versions of games that were already on the Genesis. And a few good games like Sonic CD and Snatcher but not too much else.

> You sound like a 14 year old AVGN fan.
YOU'RE JUST SOME UNDERAGE THAT LISTENS TO E CELEB CANCER. HURR DURR

Anonymous Wed May 18 23:19:01 2016 No.3225365

>>3225357
>I thought the reception was lukewarm at best and the Sega CD just broke even.
No, the Mega CD was profitable and had no major techinical issues. It outsold its competition, the PC Engine CD, comfortably.
>Sure FMV stuff and games that were just enhanced versions of games that were already on the Genesis. And a few good games like Sonic CD and Snatcher but not too much else.
This is why you sound like an AVGN fan. You clearly don't know shit about the library and have probably never even used the system. FMV games are a minority of Mega CD games but just because AVGN showcased them more for laughs you think they're the entire library. Just play some of the games before you talk shit about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 04:36:07 2016 No.3228209 >>3225365 Face it there's only like 5 decent games on sega cd. I grew up with it as a kid but looking back its almost a total waste of potential.

Anonymous Fri May 20 04:46:01 2016 No.3228214

>>3228209
You've been living a lie, anon.

Not much of a Sega guy but even I have always known there's a decent library on Sega CD. You're missing out. Go look up some lists of great Sega CD games and their genre, or maybe someone can do one up here. I'm half asleep and need to get ready for work.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 05:09:26 2016 No.3228238 >>3228209 >>3228214 Just say Mega CD. 'Sega CD' sounds so jarring.

Anonymous Fri May 20 05:16:05 2016 No.3228253

>>3224773
>Master System
>Saturn
>Dreamcast
>hits

They couldn't even stand under the shadows of the actual hits of their generation. The last one was even more irrelevant; by the time it was treated as Sega's big comeback by your average Sonic fan, the thing could barely survive more than two miserable years before becoming one of the biggest embarrassments of the gaming history.

There's a reason no one talks about these forgotten pieces of hardware outside this board.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 05:19:58 2016 No.3228257 >>3228253 The thing is that there WERE places in the world all those consoles did well in. Master System won in Europe, Brazil and Australia. Saturn beat N64 in Japan. Dreamcast had a very successful 2 years in USA.

Anonymous Fri May 20 06:14:32 2016 No.3228307

>>3228257
What's your denition of "doing well"? Saturn and Dreamcast could never sell 10 million units in all these places combined. SMS was the less pathetic of the trio, but then again, Europe and Australia favoured computers over consoles and Brazil in the 80's was basically a no man's land (i.e. poor) with insignificant impact on the gaming scene. If anything, it had a mediocre performance, just enough for Sega not drop out the hardware marketing earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 06:45:24 2016 No.3228335 >>3228307 Australia didn't have the same kind of micro computer scene as Europe.

Anonymous Fri May 20 06:49:13 2016 No.3228340
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Sega had a lot of cool systems and some great potential through the 90s. Their marketing seemed really good to me as a kid. I fell in love with my SNES, but Sega was just cooler for some reason. I would look at ads in magazines and just lose myself in how amazing their marketing was, not that I understood marketing when I was 7. They had Nomad, Game Gear, Sega CD, and Saturn. I can't remember hating any one of those systems. It amazes me that they burned out so quickly with Dreamcast. It just seemed like it should have dominated the 90s.

Look at this box. This to me is just the elder god tier of aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 06:58:29 2016 No.3228352 >>3228340 Genesis was the fucking shit, and better than SNES in many respects. But PS1 and N64 had all the good games come 5th gen.

Anonymous Fri May 20 07:17:21 2016 No.3228391

>>3228340
>It amazes me that they burned out so quickly with Dreamcast

The real reason is because Sega went into really large debt on the Saturn (due to selling the console at an extreme OG Xbox style hardware loss). Dreamcast died because as well as that console did, it wasn't outrunning the debt for Sega.

Anonymous Fri May 20 07:46:34 2016 No.3228430

You can call them one hit wonders but at least all their consoles were good.

Look at how Nintendo is fizzling out - the Gamecube was over a decade ago and since then it's been Wii and WiiU and NX looks to be more of the same.

At least Sega died with some dignity.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 08:08:00 2016 No.3228447 >>3218931 >one hit wonder >dominated the arcade in the 80s and 90s Ayyylmao

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 08:10:52 2016 No.3228452 >>3228257 Really wish I gave the Master System a chance back in the day. Some really good stuff to be found.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 08:51:00 2016 No.3228518 >>3218931 that's wrong retard the master system was yuge in europe

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 09:04:00 2016 No.3228541 File: 188 KB, 650x650, 8b3709 at this very moment as of right now.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3225357 >HURR DURR Dude don't even

>>	Anonymous Fri May 20 23:49:37 2016 No.3230464 >>3228452 Same here. I just really didn't have much of an idea of it back in the day. I even remember Turbographix more than hearing about the master system (in the US)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 21 00:29:39 2016 No.3230548 >>3218931 >Model 1 >Model 2 >Model 3 3-hits right there

>>	Anonymous Sat May 21 00:49:21 2016 No.3230574 I can't help but wonder if there was a lot of partying going on behind the scenes at SoA.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 21 03:28:21 2016 No.3230830 >>3230548 The CDX was a winner too

>>	Anonymous Sat May 21 03:32:14 2016 No.3230834 >>3230574 colombian coke and high class whores, of course. >b-but Kalinske is a good goy, the bad guys are SoJ

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 01:44:07 2016 No.3233523 >>3219189 Funny thing is the EU will collapse long before America would.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 11:17:12 2016 No.3234392 >>3219176 Because Sega could be the Sony of the current market if they didn't fuck up. Their failures are more notable than their success.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 11:49:33 2016 No.3234439 >>3234392 You could say the same thing about Nintendo if it wasn't for the 2-in-1 fluke that was the DS and Wii.

Anonymous Sun May 22 11:56:38 2016 No.3234453

>>3219738
Get a cheap broken/untested one and fix it up so that you don't pay a fortune. There are some good games for it like sonic CD and snatcher (and it's really nice that you can burn the games straight to CD and play them without a problem) but I honestly would not pay more than 60-70 bucks for one, and even those prices make me cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 12:05:38 2016 No.3234462 Sega was always shit. Sony master race is still the king today. Get cucked sega faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 15:06:05 2016 No.3234841 >>3234462 >not having both Get a load of THIS faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 15:14:01 2016 No.3234861 >>3234439 >2-in-1 fluke >implying it's a fluke if you have two in a row

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 15:16:27 2016 No.3234870 >>3234462 Sega was for actual gamers. Sony's garbage was for people who didn't really like videogames, but just wanted cinematic-like experiences.

Anonymous Sun May 22 16:37:46 2016 No.3235131

>>3234870
I like the Saturn a lot, but a huge portion of its library is Visual Novels and Dating Sims. With that logic you'd argue that they didn't like videogames (though technically dating sims are still very much games) but wanted anime-like experiences. Though to be fair, the same could have also been said of the Playstation only with fewer visual novels.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 17:11:10 2016 No.3235208 Can't someone finds some former CEO's and other important personel of SoE so we know for sure how much of SoA's claims are true?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 17:27:56 2016 No.3235232 File: 14 KB, 405x447, why.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3220075 >>3220075

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 19:09:30 2016 No.3235604 >>3219614 >STEROIDS

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 19:13:06 2016 No.3235617 Sega was just going insane with the Genesis. They had no idea what they were doing but it worked so they kept doing it. All semblance of having their shit together faded as soon as the Genesis did. They were done after that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 19:41:26 2016 No.3235771 >>3235208 Here are interviews with people who were in charge of selling the Mega Drive and Saturn in Europe and Brazi: http://www.sega-16.com/2008/09/interview-nick-alexander/ http://www.sega-16.com/2015/11/interview-stefano-arnhold-tectoy/

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 19:56:04 2016 No.3235839 >>3224609 why do you even post here you autistic hell fucker. you never say anything of value. just that fucking penguin avatar and bitching about other people

Anonymous Sun May 22 20:06:03 2016 No.3235881
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>>3218931
>The Master System was a success in Europe and Brazil due to Nintendo fucking up in those territories.
>The Genesis did well in North America by promoting itself with an edgy advertising campaign to contrast itself with Nintendo's clean kiddie image.
>The Saturn was hugely popular in Japan due to Virtua Fighter mania, eventually establishing itself as the go-to platform for late 90s arcade ports.
It's not so much of an issue that they were a one-hit wonder, but rather they never had consistent success everywhere. They tried to get their shit together with the Dreamcast, but it was too little too late by then.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 20:15:20 2016 No.3235913 >>3235771 So in the end, SoJ was really stuborn

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 20:29:49 2016 No.3235948 Sega continued to make games like the old days while the remainder of the "games" industry catered to nugamer idiots that liked style over substance shit. They couldn't survive in this new world of fucking failure and bullshit and died.

Anonymous Sun May 22 20:35:42 2016 No.3235976

Sega's main problem was poor marketing. If they had better marketing staff back then, they'd have no doubt been much more successful. From the Genesis to the Saturn to the Dreamcast, they had some amazing games, concepts and projects. They also dominated the arcade market some 18-20 years ago

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 20:39:26 2016 No.3235987 >>3235976 >Poor marketing What about that "blast processing" nonsense? People ate it up.

Anonymous Sun May 22 20:44:22 2016 No.3236000

>>3235976
>Sega's main problem was poor marketing.
>poor marketing.
What? Maybe that's the case in Japan (with a possible exception for the Saturn), but their NA marketing tactics during the Genesis era actually benefited them greatly; so much so that Sony eventually used similar shit early on for the Playstation. Their real problem was having two branches that couldn't get along with each other well and ended up sabotaging one another as a result.

Anonymous Sun May 22 20:50:33 2016 No.3236006

>>3235881
I still think what killed the dreamcast ultimately was the high piracy rate. I mean Naomi and Atomiswave ports alone were practically costless and could have easily carried the console through 6th gen. Not to mention the bunch of scrapped exclusives that moved to the Xbox.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 21:11:17 2016 No.3236056 >>3236000 Not the same person, but marketing and advertising aren't the same thing

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 21:56:47 2016 No.3236150 >>3221063 No, we had neither.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 23:24:02 2016 No.3236343 >>3219464 Interesting. I've always wondered why Nintendo never did as well in Europe and this makes a lot of sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 22 23:27:29 2016 No.3236351 >>3235617 What a ridiculous thing to say. How can you actually believe this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 23 20:18:36 2016 No.3238668 >>3235617 You wot, mate?

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