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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3177152

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1448/27/1448271860636.png
Doom download: https://yadi.sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Quake pastebin: http://pastebin.com/yV2AwaXE
Duke: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg



Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent



irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)




Make a Boom-compatible E1-themed Ultimate Doom map.
Status: https://desustorage.org/vr/post/3019509

>> No.3181378


[04-29] The Doom Movement Bible

[04-29] Anon map release: Arch-ville

[04-28] JPCP bugfix update v1.1

[04-27] RECOVERED023 (tsp)
https://youtu.be/pTZAp4SqRQE [Embed]

[04-26] Graceful Doom - A Nonrandom Alternative to Pain Chance [1.0]

[04-26] Anon mod release: FrankenGun.pk3

[04-26] Custom Palettes

[04-26] 3D Maze Screensaver Textures and Sprites

[04-26] E1M4b, another new map by Romero

[04-26] Tenebrae, 5 horror themed maps for GZDoom

[04-26] Showdown in Suzhou: a map for Shadow Warrior, by NESFag
https://youtu.be/f7AHHwehe0 [Embed]

[04-26] A Morte released

[04-25] Anon resource release: F-Zero Velocity fonts

[04-25] BLACKROOM: John Romero and Adrian Carmack's new project
https://youtu.be/v7-nKfsEevA [Embed]

[04-25] Samsara 0.32 (bugfix update)

[04-24] Anon resource release: centaur.zip

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Have any of the people who got the Gamestop code for Doom 4 actually uploaded any footage besides the rip and tear until it is done bit?

>> No.3181383

>>3181378 Continued due to character limit.

[04-24] Anon mod release: SlaughterGuns v1 (TEXTURES mod)

[04-24] The /newstuff Chronicles #494


To submit news, please reply to this post or >>3181378.

>> No.3181397 [DELETED] 

not this idiot again. i'll post a proper new thread in a moment.

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>> No.3181407

actually no, i don't care any more, here's an updated news post


[05-01] Double Barrelled Pistol sprites (right hand only)

[05-01] Smooth Doom (Weapons only)

[04-30] Anon mod release: gold invulnerability colormap

[04-30] Anon map release: Deathzones.wad

[04-30] Anon map release: techarena.wad

[04-30] Anon mod release: DoomShock beta

[04-30] PC Collector magazine CD-ROM wad sets
>>3178204 >>3178212 >>3178234 >>3178273 >>3178280 >>3178307 >>3178331

[04-30] Anon map release: the Castlevania map

[04-30] Anon map release: Blastmaster

[04-29] The Doom Movement Bible

[04-29] Anon map release: Arch-ville

[04-28] JPCP v1.1

[04-26] Graceful Doom v1.0

[04-26] Anon mod release: FrankenGun.pk3

[04-26] 3D Maze Screensaver Textures and Sprites

[04-26] E1M4b, another new map by Romero

[04-26] Showdown in Suzhou: a map for Shadow Warrior, by NESFag

[04-26] A Morte released


To submit news, please reply to this post.

>> No.3181409

Will you be archiving the stream?
I can't watch now but would like to, and I'm sure others are in the same boat.

>> No.3181412

we used to make them at 5

>> No.3181413

>actually no, i don't care any more, here's an updated news post
I feel for you opanon. I hope you don't get too discouraged because we all appreciate your efforts very much.

>> No.3181415

>no spikes on the belly
They didn't even get a good look at doom before making the game did they
But other than that minor complaint, I quite like it, but might have worked better if it was less brown and more bright red.
Why do all games insist on realistic colour palettes even when everything else is as disconnected from reality as anon's dad is from vaginas. Explains why I like tf2

>> No.3181418

The 2 lil ones? They put the vestigial arm things there. And they do seem more red in recent footage, but I don't know if it's the lightning.

Agreed about "realistic" palettes but it really hasn't been that big of a problem recently, I don't think.

>> No.3181423

The news posts are what make me visit every new thread at least once.

>> No.3181425 [DELETED] 

LMAO what the fuck is this Minecraft looking bullshit nigga I can't even look up or jump, enemies are cardboards just play Halo or sumthin xD

>> No.3181429

has doom been called minecraft by someone before?

>> No.3181430

Maybe it's me being drunk and needing to blame my problems on something.
Now that I think about it, there were a few quite colourful shooters in recent years, but I only played far cry 3.

>> No.3181437 [DELETED] 

Doom 4 will save this series.

>> No.3181439

You think?

>> No.3181440

My favourite colorful shooter is Borderlands 2, despite how broken scaling past level 40 gets, first 2 playthroughs are absolute blast and DLC's actually more than double the game's content.

I may have played other FPSs in recent years, but the only ones I remember are BDL2 (Pre sequel is trash) and Wolf:TNO (which was so-so). Any other fps'es I should be aware of?

>> No.3181442

Not really. I don't really keep up with modern gaming

>> No.3181445 [DELETED] 

Doom 4 > Doom 3 > shit > Ultimate Doom > Doom 2

>> No.3181446

colourful shooters i can think of: brink, almost borderlands since it's got a lot of different colours but they're really dull looking, splatoon

that's all i got

>> No.3181448 [DELETED] 

>shit, that didn't work
>better try with this instead!

>> No.3181449 [DELETED] 

I doubt your sincerity.

>> No.3181450

Probably. I let one of my younger friends play doom and he would hide around corners for about 30 seconds after getting hit waiting to regenerate.

>> No.3181457

If you count Metroid Prime as shooters then they sorta fit. Not recent though.

I have almost finished replaying the series on an emulator right now (in the middle of MP3).

Dreadnought made me go back to these. I'm thinking about a metroid-like (Upgrade-based progression) shooter/platformer and looking for inspiration for the puzzles. Maybe a dreadnought map will come out of this, maybe something else, I don't know.

Some times I wonder what would've been if authors of Hexen looked back at Metroid and Zelda when they made their game, how much different (and how much better/worse) it might have been.

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>> No.3181460

Shadow Warrior 1 was alright, and 2 seems to borrow a bit from Borderlands.
You're missing a lot imo. All the upcoming class shooters bar maybe Paragon, for starters.
How old are you, and how old is your friend? Honest question, not flamebait

>> No.3181463

Rly? I played doom with my 12 yo cousin and he felt right at home.
Maybe part of the reason was that his first console was the ps1

>> No.3181472

My laptop dry heaves when symphony of the night gets too processor intensive. I need to get my pc fixed

>> No.3181478

>has doom been called minecraft by someone before?

Be sure to grab a bucket before you click this


>> No.3181481

Really? Because what makes me visit every new thread is the, uh, posts. And conversations. And discussion.

>> No.3181483
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Why does Doom-person look different here

>> No.3181484

Im 26 he is 20.

>> No.3181487

There's new threads so often that I can't keep up with reading all of it.

>> No.3181490

Different artist.
Also that haircut was an actual edgy haircut back in the day.

>> No.3181492


Okay, I'll bite.


>> No.3181494


>> No.3181495




I had better be able to open this shit with 7zip and extract it manually

>> No.3181496

Are you playing it on Mednafen(or Retroarch)? Because for whatever retarded reason they always use up 100% of my CPU and make my fans spin at riple speed. ePSXe does the job just fine with PEOPS software plugin and 25-30% CPU usage.

Dolphin Emu went a long way since release and has very good performance these days.

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>> No.3181501

Doomguy, doom marine
Brenda Hawkins

>> No.3181504

dunno, he looks slightly different in every picture. i think it's to maintain his vagueness and thus self-insertibility

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>> No.3181507

ePSX. CPU is athlon 5000 with radeon integrated graphics
Will peops improve performance?

>> No.3181515

Okay looks like you can extract the contents with 7-zip, thank god

>> No.3181516
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I'll probably do it a little later tonight.

I'm coding the MEGA PUNCH right now but perhaps I'll do some work on the Nikana for the stream.

>> No.3181521

Manty Quilla where is the stream?

>> No.3181528

Probably. It also looks best and closest to original, as well as emulating more effects than OpenGL and Direct3D renderers do.
use 1:1 scaling to get proper AR (non-ellipse moon and stuff, but inventory menues will lok off), or set resolution to a multiplier of 256x208 (if you play version without internal letterboxing, for letterboxed versions us 256x240) and stretch to fill.

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Friendly reminder that Doom by itself is too simple to be a nowadays AAA game and offering the same kind of experience as the first ones.
Its design philosophy can only be replicated via small/indie games.

>> No.3181546

In other words big name publishers suck?

>> No.3181556

I seem to be already using petes opengl2 psx gpu

>> No.3181557

He said at least once, which implies he isn't too regular/lurker.

You're a bro OPanon, This is probably just some edgy newfag who wants to get MUH EPIC THREAD or a fag who wants to ruin the threads.

>> No.3181559

doom was a small indie game, anon.

>> No.3181560

You're absolutely right but making game more modern doesn't have to be turning it into fucking Halo for example Wolfenstein TNO did well meanwhile Doom 4 is dog shit.

>> No.3181561

It's a shame really. Based on what bit of multiplayer I watched on Youtube, I'm a little disappointed with the new game not because it's different from the rest of the series, that's to be expected, but because it didn't really do anything we haven't seen before. It took the safe route, rather than push the boundaries like the originals did.

>> No.3181568

And here we get to the crux of the issue: up to like 95 most games were small indie projects

>> No.3181574

>You're a bro OPanon, This is probably just some edgy newfag who wants to get MUH EPIC THREAD or a fag who wants to ruin the threads.

That's reeeeeally reaching.
It's just a fucking thread on an anonymous message board.

>> No.3181592

why aren't game covers today hand painted but exclusively stupid digital shit "artwork"?

>> No.3181595

There's no talent in the industry anymore

>> No.3181603

Hotline Miami?

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Put so fucking much A_WeaponReady and state checks on the weapons. Now they can be swapped between almost at any time, no matter what state they're in, which makes things a lot more fast-paced.
Once I fix the multitude of other issues with DemonSteele I'll probably port it over to there as well.

Also this webm is so damn compressed I'll be amazed if anything going on in it is recognizable.

>> No.3181619

try PEOPS soft and see if it works faster or not - played it too long ago, so I dont remember the details.

>> No.3181621
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We're playing Samsara DM with DBAB, get in here lads

server name: Pure. Simple. Samsara DM. (Now with more Caleb in every bite!)
password: gmotasux

>> No.3181625

>Also this webm is so damn compressed I'll be amazed if anything going on in it is recognizable.

it's a webm of a WIP mod posted in 4chan.

video compression is irrelevant, give me a converted 3gp for all i care.

>> No.3181627

What is dis?

>> No.3181629

Those are some sexy sword sprites my man.

>> No.3181635

Oh yeah, the new version of Samsara only works in Zandronum 3.0, so you'll need to get that to connect.

>> No.3181640

space pirate 2.0, "actually being made" edition

>> No.3181641

so the decorate is even more disgusting now right

>> No.3181647
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>get zando 3.0
>try to join
>Execution could not continue.

>Script error, "samsara-v0.333-beta.pk3:cvarinfo.txt" line 1:
cvar 'samsara_cvarinfo' already exists

>Remove 'samsara_cvarinfo' and all other conflicting cvars from your ini and restart Zandronum to continue.

how and why

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>They didn't even get a good look at doom before making the game did they
It's a completely new game made by completely new people in a completely new era, doing a (comparatively) new thing, why do act like it wouldn't be different?
Doom 3 was different, so is this one.

Far Cry 3 was pretty good.
I played 4, and while it had a lot of cool new toys, the plot is just completely uninteresting.

At least in 3, you had a clear motive, "this guy killed your brother, and he's a bad guy", it's a basic motivation for the player character, and he really sounds like he wants to rescue his remaining brothers/friends, but most of all, get vengeance. In 4 the player character just feels shoehorned into something he doesn't really care about.

>hide around corners
Taking cover intermittently is a good idea in any shooter.

>for about 30 seconds after getting hit waiting to regenerate.
Well ok, that's kind of cute actually. How did they react when you tell them you have to go and find health, and that it's a limited resource?

He had a haircut on his way to earth.


>> No.3181652

space pirate is actually being made tho....?

>> No.3181654

find INI (hint: zandronum-<username>.ini)

delete every line starting with samsara_


>> No.3181658

Good to see a vr server, but I'll pass. I'm awful at deathmatch. Props for trying to get something started though.

>> No.3181659

>Too simple
Rocket League is simple as fuck, doesnt mean it isnt popular, fun as fuck, has a huge skill ceiling

I dont even know what you're saying by design philosophy. Being able to dodge projectiles with precise movement and fast mouselook is for phones?

>> No.3181661


I don't have a name for it yet, I've just been calling it the Booty Project. Play as a space pirate, fly to other planets, grab cash and gems and jewels and fight off aliens and demons.
Gonna be a full game like Nocturne in Yellow was, but without the one-month limit that seriously hampered it (shitty maps, total lack of polish, difficulty jumps, etc)


Thanks. They're not actually mine, they were made by a guy named BatteryBlack, he just let me use them for placeholders.
They're very, very pretty placeholders, though.


You better fuckin' believe it, nigga.

>> No.3181663
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Yeah, I miss shit like this.
At least the alt cover for Doom 4 is a cool and colorful action scene in a hellish landscape.

At the very least, I hope it sets a precedent, the executives and marketers can have their boring droll shit covers, but all you need to do is to flip it around and you get something like pic-related, the REAL cover.
It'll cost more, but they can take that out of marketing's budget.

No, there's talent, you just have to find it.

>> No.3181665

I get what he's saying, at least in the context of singleplayer. A series of short self-contained levels with a sparse story and no gimmicks to "break up the gameplay" is too simple for modern audiences. It certainly won't make for entertaining let's play videos by casual players.

>> No.3181669

I immediately tried to play gran turismo 2 and hot damn, it's actually playable now, with at least 30 fps. The Ai cars clip through each other a bit but holy shit. I'm so fuckin excited I want to suck your dick, but since I'm drunk I wouldn't even need an excuse anyway.

>> No.3181674

Let me tell you about twenty eight nights at freddy's...

>> No.3181676

>A series of short self-contained levels with a sparse story and no gimmicks to "break up the gameplay" is too simple for modern audiences
I think you overestimate modern audiences.

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>> No.3181727

Looks ok I guess.

>> No.3181731 [DELETED] 

>I like it but I'll say it looks ok xD so I can fit in

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>that gun description

every time.

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Maybe you should take a chill-pill.

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>> No.3181753
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Holy shit, some of the old DOOM '16 loading screens dug up from the beta have a logo from when the game was still "DOOM 4".
Check the top left corner.

>> No.3181765

Guys, any idea what happened to the Real Guns Advanced project? I really liked that one for LAN co-op. Most fun we ever had. You guys know any projects like that?

On second note: any good class-based co-op mod?

>> No.3181774


do you mind posting the source before you get warned?

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>> No.3181780

Not much. There was an RGA3 in the works but never got close to being complete. There was an adaptation of RGA2 called Real Guns Hardcore which had various gameplay tweaks, and then there's RGA2 Refined which preserved the original RGA2 gameplay and focused on fixing bugs.

I really would have liked to see an RGA based on Black Ops II, the guns in that game were great.

>> No.3181781

you mean RGA2Ref?
I think its pretty much finished, no more bugs and shit, i haven't seen the author (Jes) in days though

>> No.3181783

Oh boy, it's MAP29

>> No.3181793

Huh, I guess it kind of looks like a radical reinterpretation of The Living End, I guess that's a bit cool.

>> No.3181803

>I guess it kind of looks like
>I guess that's a bit cool


>> No.3181804


Woah, I never heard about this one, we've been playing the original for years now (sporadically, of course).

Thanks buds. I will check this Refined one out.

>> No.3181819

Do all new versions of GZDOOM still have that awful fucking distortion effect when looking up and down, or did Graf actually get off his ass and fix that?
If not, what's the last version without it?

>> No.3181826

You mean like ZDoom weird up/down? Dude I guess that's the main thing of GZDoom. Ever since Release N°1.

>> No.3181827


I'm using 1.91 and I have no problems like that.

>> No.3181829

>that awful fucking distortion effect when looking up and down
That sounds like you were using ZDoom instead of GZDoom.
Or that you used vid_renderer 0

>> No.3181841

Nah, recently Graf updated GZDoom's renderer to be compatible with something, and it totally fucked up the GL rendering.
Now there's a slight warping effect when looking up and down.

>> No.3181845

Bruh you're gonna need to do some kind of video of this because I have no clue what you on about.

>> No.3181848

All I got out of you was "the new update fucked up". Seems like you're right tho. :c

>> No.3181856

Well it was never a favorite of mine.
It'd be cooler if they made some set-pieces from TNT or Plutonia.

>> No.3181858

now if only the finished product ever looked as good as the concept art

>> No.3181869
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Can somebody peek at my script and tell me what i'm doing wrong?

Looks kosher to me, but every script i write for this wad gives me the good old "P_StartScript: Unknown Script"


>> No.3181878

Your script library doesn't define itself as one.
Add #library "yourlibrarynamehere" as the first line.


>> No.3181884

You know I'm wondering how mentally fucked up Doom guy is after all he went through and if we consider Doom 64 to be canon then I'm sure spending rest of eternity in hell won't do him any good either maybe he even will become the next ruler of hell and start a vicious cycle.

>> No.3181895


The leaks of D4 imply something along these lines.

>> No.3181896

just tried it, recompiled, doesn't work

also i have another wad i wrote that doesn't have the "#library" tag and those scripts work?

scripts hurt my head when they /work/, this shit is turning my brain into a pretzel

>> No.3181898

I was gonna say this
It's not quite what he said, just a lil part of it iirc
Also we should still use spoilers when talking about this stuff methinks

>> No.3181906

You should always include a library statement. Even if it works without one, include it anyway. It's just good coding technique.

Also ACS_Execute (1,0) isn't passing any parameters to script 1.
Try ACS_Execute (1,0,0,0,0).


>> No.3181910

Some good gun mods that don't touch enemies? Already know Trailblazer.

>> No.3181916

Is Doom 4 retro tho?

>> No.3181920

Gun mods that don't touch enemies???

What's the fucking point then?

>> No.3181930

To have a fucking gun mod and not gameplay overhaul?

>> No.3181946

Combined Arms

>> No.3181952

>mod that replaces fucking SSG with a weapon that uses plasma ammo

>> No.3181981

Samsara (in a way), Epic Weapons Pack, ww-gzmecha, Real Guns Hardcore, and I think Psych (don't hold me to it, I haven't played Psych in a while)

>> No.3181986
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Stream Anon again.

You may remember a while ago I planned on streaming D44M when it comes out/I get the chance. I also have this idea for a twist on the stream where I have co-commentators from the /doom/ community give their two cents on D44M as they watch, seeing how it's a big deal, what with it being the first major release in a franchise as noteworthy as this in 12 years.

So would any of you be interested in joining me for when I finally get to stream it?

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Why was it called the Automap?

>> No.3181997
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Gameplay is a very complicated thing, arbitrarily doubling values isn't a sound way to make something fun.

>> No.3182003

It's a map that draws itself automatically.

>> No.3182004

>Samsara (in a way)

Not even in a way, Samsara replaces all monsters.

>> No.3182009

My bad, I forgot I have a very old version of it that made it basically Doom with multiple characters.

>> No.3182025

Doom 4 looks to have better gameplay than Brutal Doom desu.

>> No.3182042

I'd be in.
I plan on playing the game on launch day too.
When do you plan on streaming it exactly?
Day of release, right at release, or later that weekend?

>> No.3182046

>thinking you need a SSG when you've got that shotgun's altfire

wew lad

>> No.3182054


Well, I was thinking sometime at night on the 17th, cus I have to go to my brother's college graduation and I have to come back to my college for a portfolio review. Not sure what time specifically tho.

>> No.3182056
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Tfw I actually kinda like BD because it's mindless fun.

>> No.3182061

For some reason when I play LegenDoom with Ketchup I still get the vanilla gibs any idea how to fix this shit? Ketchup is supposed to be compatible with everything.

>> No.3182063

when you say join you, you mean for coop? i am also getting the game day 1 and would love to join you, don't know about commentating though

>> No.3182064

So what are the chances this materializes as something more than a screenshot of a single frame of a shotgun recolor?
Description sounds like the monster version might be handy, but
>Zandronum compatibility is not a hard goal of the project
>the target port will be zdoom rather than gzdoom
>Maps are not planned
>will not make use of any GZDoom features and all graphical effects will be designed for and tested in ZDoom.
>currently the git is set to private
>Do not expect a release before 2017.

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>> No.3182067

I meant like have someone over say skype and watch me play and give their thoughts on the final product of D44M essentially.

>> No.3182074

well i appreciate the help, but i followed your advice, recompiled, and that still didn't do it: "P_StartScript: Unknown Script 1"

>> No.3182079

i don't know, but it sounds cool

>> No.3182090

How odd. Do you have the library loaded properly through loadacs?

>> No.3182096

As in how? Vector lines automatically generated from level geometry? Rooms automatically revealing themselves? Is it referencing other kinds of games where you need to unfog the map?

>> No.3182107

uh... no

looking at implementing it now, never used it before... if i understand correctly i'm moving my compiled ACS into an ACS folder, then creating a lump that points to the compiled file?

>> No.3182116

Yes, the loadacs lump contains the library names you want to load in the acs folder.

>> No.3182121

>As in how? Vector lines automatically generated from level geometry? Rooms automatically revealing themselves?

>> No.3182129

>Ketchup is supposed to be compatible with everything.

It isn't, because Mark's a dumbass.
Ketchup replaces monsters, so other mods that replace monsters won't work with it. Either nix ketchup or turn off Legendoom's monster replacement.

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well now it's printing, but even when i hit an imp it says "not an imp"

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>> No.3182158

what soundfont you guys think sounds good with doom II, I'm getting bored with the roland one

>> No.3182170
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Hey guys, I'm streaming at hitbox.tv here in about 10 minutes. Probably just gonna do some art and goof around.

>> No.3182173

you just made me remember i posted something similar a long while back but i don't remember what it was

>> No.3182179

Try a NES soundfont or WeedsGM3.
If you want to mess around with some weird ones, I would suggest KK Slider.

>> No.3182181

That's cause ACS_Execute (1,0,0,0,0) is passing tid zero (tid zero always refers to the script caller) to script 1. Since the script caller is you, the player, it will always return "not an imp" since the player class does not match DoomImp.

>> No.3182204

hmmm, if only there was a name for such a stream

a locale of making things, if you will

maybe some kind of...house of dev


>> No.3182208 [DELETED] 

Let's face it Brutal Doom is the best gameplay mod around and the only reason why Doom is still relevant.

>> No.3182219

yeah I guess you're right, even if it means one has to be a little more conservative with doing huge bomb traps(that or use Devastator shots less), also is there a trick to using the Bullet Bombs, cause I'm just not seeing it, they don't seem very useful(especially compared to their alt-fire)

man I suggested this to them almost 2 years ago

if I play stock Doom and Doom 2 I'll turn Freelook and Jump off, but if I'm using a mod then I'll often turn them on

>> No.3182220

Fellas, before I bother downloading the PS2 version of Quake 3, is there a reason for why I can't find the PS2 skins available for download?

>> No.3182223

While I generally hate finebros, I liked that in the vid, the only teen who liked it as a little kid, is also the only one who doesn't like the trailer for doom 2016.

>> No.3182237

Why is there no big springfield/simpsons wad?

>> No.3182240

I think there is a Simpsons Doom mod.

>> No.3182241
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>Sound/graphic replacement wads from the 90s that replaced everything with Simpsons graphics/sounds

>> No.3182245

The only thing I really like about BD is iron sights, which ATM does better. Also better reloads.

Though on the other hand, the rocket launcher in ATM is -really- bad, I'd rather the rocket ammo be replaced with hand-grenades which you threw with a quick button, if it wasn't for the fact that you sometimes need to put a rocket through the distance.

>> No.3182247

>look away from Blackroom for two days
>it suspended funding two days ago to make a demo
Oh, cool stuff.

>> No.3182248

Dug up a video for ya.

>> No.3182249

There were a couple. There were the ones made in 1995, which are pretty awful. And there was another made somewhere in the 00's, that has better looking sprites, and uses SNDINFO to make every character have unique sounds.

>> No.3182251


Use the nailgun's altfire. Infinite cells gained.

I swear you people never read pick up messages. It flat out says you gain ten cells with each hit of the altfire

>> No.3182253

This couldn't be more 90s if it tried.

>> No.3182254

Wolfenstein 2009 is pretty fun, getting a copy of the PC version is a pain in the ass though

>> No.3182259

When Romero really puts his mind to it to do his job, he will see what matters and do what is necessary.

He could have just gone on like planned (and this could have worked just fine), but he realized, he needed substance to show to people, to better make you his pitch, so that's what he does.

>> No.3182260

One of the first videos I ever watched on youtube. I can't believe its still up.

>> No.3182275
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Once you get used to it (the medallion and stuff), it's quite good.
I found it for peanuts in the used games section, so I don't quite mind it's flaws as much.

The K98k Mauser with the bayonet, upgraded barrel and action, and stripper-clip feed, REALLY is one of the most fun weapons I've used in a quasi-realistic FPS, the ironsights not only actually matter, but the bayonet is just really useful and fun, doing way more melee damage than any other weapon. The loud, deafening BOOM really conveys how powerful it is.
Most other shooters of the time probably wouldn't have let you use the "designated sniper rifle" as a battle rifle instead and have it work, hell, still probably wouldn't.

The final boss is also pretty hard, I never beat him on medium.

>> No.3182276

what's the general opinion on hexen here?

>> No.3182278

Isnt this just a sprite replacement though?

I'd like one with actual levels inspired from springfield

>> No.3182280

anyone got a copy of this, sounds interesting but the site it's hosted on is dead

well that explains why enemies in Blastmaster weren't acting like they're supposed to

sounds like garbage vaporware to me

sounds like a good idea for a mod

it also has one of the best videogame flamethrowers I've ever used

>> No.3182286

Not even once

>> No.3182292

If you can be patient, I'm making a updated and improved version of ww-gzmecha.

If you're curious what it looks like at the moment:


>> No.3182294

Too mixed. Some think it's great, some think it's too boring and/or convoluted.

>> No.3182295

There is nothing significant about this change. I pretty much just fixed the teleport issue, added a new way to run addons with shortcuts, and added a link to a more comprehensive mapping guide. I have been slacking off and still feel lazy as fuck but I wanted to finally post a fix for the issue with the map as it was completely broken

>> No.3182301

sleep tight quaker
you did well

>> No.3182302

i only just started playing it today and it's pretty fun, some of the sounds are from TES: arena interestingly

>> No.3182304

Oh yeah, the flamer is incredibly good, with the upgrades, it realistically portrays the long range of a real liquid fuel jet framethrower, it's incredibly satisfying.

>> No.3182306

There's a more updated Samsara that changes monsters too? Link? Does it work in GZDoom and not just Zandronum?

>> No.3182315


Samsara has replaced monsters since the early builds, bruh

>> No.3182317

The version I've got only has the different playable heroes and guns. Might be because I'm running it in GZDoom though?

>> No.3182325


I think we're having a misunderstanding over the term "monster replacements".
The monsters are not the default ZDoom actors, but they are the default Doom monsters.

>> No.3182328

oh that one, I'm familiar with it

yeah pretty much the only weapon I didn't like was the Assault Rifle, if mostly cause it felt redundant with the MP-40 being in the game already(a shotgun would have been better), and the Bazooka, cause you found ammo for it so infrequently that it wasn't worth using most of the time(should have been Panzerfausts instead)

>> No.3182329
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Atmosphere - Awesome
Setting and Storyline - Pretty good
Classes - Very cool, each class is different and fun to play
Weapons - Very cool, but slightly limited
Items - Excellent, and some like the flechette make up for lack of variety of weapons
Level Design - Hard. Obtusely Hard. This is where Hexen falls down. You will have to use a walkthrough if you get stuck. Its a combi keyhunt/switchhunt, inside a maze, connected with portals.

Overall: I like the idea of it, but its a grind to play. Well worth checking out, and the first map is fun. You can try necrosis.wad if you really dont like hexen and want something more linear.

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>A third of the puzzle has been solved

>> No.3182342

The first "hubworld" of Hexen was nice. Very straight forward where to go

Then the 2nd hubworld happened, I couldnt figure out what to do.

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>> No.3182347

Oh, bless you good sir. This is one of my favorite mods, so glad someone's remaking it.

>> No.3182348

what are some good mods and map replacements for Hexen?

>> No.3182353

Shadows of Chronos.

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>> No.3182380

Wrath of Chronos is one of my personal favorites.

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>> No.3182385

no re

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>> No.3182401


>dont talk to me or my cyber son ever again

>> No.3182402

Thats actually a not to bad redesign of the classic cyberdemon, i dig the more "chaotic" look more than the old minotaur look of the classic

Also that arm cannon is cool.

>> No.3182403

Why the imgur link?

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>Cyberdemon has toes instead of hooves

>> No.3182406

>not Ranger

>not HUUHH

>> No.3182408

Oy, I was about to ask if you were around due to a question regarding map optimization.

Why do you suggest making all the exterior brushes triangles to save overhead instead of just using Skip textures (which are supported by most modern versions of qbsp)?

>> No.3182414

you ever look at something and know that the artist has a fetish

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>> No.3182425

when i was making my map I just threw shit at the wall and wrote down what stuck. It looked like there was a performance boost so I figured I would mention it along with other optimizations but I don't actually know what about it gave me a performance increase or even if its just placebo

my thought process was this. less sides = less drawn, smaller volume = less drawn, could you please tell me more about skip textures? the information might find it's way into the next version

>> No.3182430

The new demon designer could have something going on. Just adding toes to the Cyberdemon probably doesn't mean much.

>> No.3182432

Toes, when cloven feet is the typical devil look? You don't ruin that for nothing, especially not with ugly toes.

>> No.3182437

From the Quake wiki:

>Skip is a nonstandard special texture, used by modern QBSP compilers, but does not have any function in the stock Quake compilers as released by ID Software. Skip is a texture much like clip in that it is invisible, but skip's use is to remove an entire face from ever rendering, and a brush does not have to be fully textured in skip. The removed face remains solid, and will block player and monster movement, as well as block weapon fire. In general, this is of little use on solid geometery, as Quake performs backside culling, but can be used on brush entities or "hacks" like windows to hide unwanted faces. A "*waterskip" texture exists as well, for use with liquid brushes.

Apparently it's a backported feature taken from id tech 2/3 (later known as nodraw in GoldSrc and Source?) and only used in custom compilers (like Tyr's utils) because standard Quake relies on qbsp to get rid of everything touching the void to begin with and then vis to prevent everything the player can't see otherwise from drawing.

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so by default those faces wouldn't have been drawn in the first place? SHIT

>> No.3182453

>macro foot fetish shit

>> No.3182456

Is there a way to bookmark servers on Zandronum? I was playing on a nice Chex Quest server today and I don't want to lose it.

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>> No.3182460

what's wrong with him?

>> No.3182463

They shouldn't be, no, but apparently people do the same thing with Source (direct descendant of Quake)- texture everything with nodraw (skip) to start with, then only apply actual textures to things the player will see.

I mean I guess that might be useful in a modern engine or if Valve fucked something up with their version of bsp, but I've never heard of it before in regards to Quake 1 in terms of being used outside the play area like that- all those faces are dropped once bsp runs (which is why if you noclip outside the map into the void, you don't see the back sides of walls when you look at the play area).

>> No.3182465

you ever hear how he got that name?

you won't look at him the same way.

>> No.3182468


It's from the datamined files, dipshit.

>> No.3182471


>> No.3182473

w-what did he do?
is it some kind of fetish thing?

>> No.3182479


I'm not trying to get you warned/banned, I simply wanted a source before someone else ruined the dumping by getting you warned/banned.

>> No.3182484

Woah, chill man. That dude wasn't being mean.

>> No.3182485

I will remove that section for the next release. Thanks for mentioning it, that was a pain in the ass to deal with and really isn't worth the smaller .map filesize alone

>> No.3182487

No prob. If you really want to save filesize you can or want to speed up compiling by a miniscule amount, but once it's in-game it should perform the same no matter what the brushes outside the play area look like, and with Quake being so old any framerate differences are ten times above what you'd notice anyway.

>> No.3182497

Necrosis is excellent like I mentioned, it adds a couple classes and weappons and enemies as well as a whole new mapset. very high quality and fun.
Shadows of Chronos is a good map set with no gamelplay frills added. solid maps.

Serpent: Resurrection is a full scale epic RPG hexen mod, massive, absolutely massive. full leveling up and RPG elements, new weapons, enemies, massively detailed world with logs and notes you can read, something like 30 maps. Very very well crafted and lots of fun.

Deathkings of Dark Citadel is the official expansion pack for Hexen, but the levels are just as hard if not harder than Hexen. Only recommended if you actually enjoyed original Hexen and want something harder, with even more obtuse puzzles and portal mazes. I enjoyed it until I got stuck a few maps in...

Others I've heard good things about: Scourge of Viscerus, Wrath of Chronos, Wolfen, Hub of Pain, Caldera, the LychGate. All available on /idgames

You could also try 'a Morte' in the OP news post if you want something a bit different: shit ton of new weapons and monsters, and 15 new maps. Its Hexen meets WW2 meets a demonic spider demigod meets blood meets outlaws meets S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

>> No.3182558

Could you try setting pixelratio to 1 and see if it remains? There'd be absolutely no sense doing that shit for pixelratio 1:1.

>> No.3182562

Scroton is a cool dude. I believe in him

>> No.3182568

It's fixed, http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

Get gzdoom-g2.2pre-1504-g47064e2.7z

It's a dev build and the problem existed for one version dude, you need to calm down.

That makes no sense.

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>> No.3182584

>That makes no sense.
Why? AFAIK the guy was talking about the pitch-dependent FoV-fuckery that's beeen present since at least last summer since even gloome has it. And due to the nature of the problem it's bound to have something to do with doom's non-square pixels.

>> No.3182609

What is that creature? I keep seeing it posted.

>> No.3182610

who is this man

>> No.3182612
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It's a Zebesian space pirate, just that artist's rendition

>> No.3182629
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does metroid prime count as /vr/ material?

that game was fucking great

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>> No.3182632

I wouldn't be able to figure that without you telling me, thanks.

>> No.3182638

Since breadnugget exists, Metroid Prime does indeed count as /vr/ material for the purposes of the Doom community.

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>> No.3182671

Will this pitch-fov fuckery be fixed in the GLOOME?

>> No.3182676

Good question. Also, multiplayer when?

>> No.3182682

That's somewhat justifiable since you usually fight (something)beam enemies in places where they research/make (something)beam related stuff.

What bugs me is that tech, pirate, federation, chozo,luminoth etc is built with dedicated bombslots, morph-ball sized tunnels, spiderball rails etc. In pre-MP1 (and for the most of MP1) games you only interacted with Chozo Tech, in which case this is understandable, but in MP1 you meet Space Pirate tech, and then Luminoth and Federation along with 3 other races in MP3.

Manipulating your devices via controlled explosions is cool and all, but come on.

>> No.3182691

This has likely been asked already, but since Doom is shareware/freeware now, where can I download it? From id Software's website?

>> No.3182694

It's not shareware/freeware, but since none of the people who made it would get a penny from sales, get it off torrents (or check OP)

>> No.3182707

>thought OP was just WAD downloads
derp, thx fampai

>> No.3182721

Time for Gauntlet

>> No.3182785
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>decide to mess with HD's code
>Slade won't open the .pk3
>decide to just open as zip and edit it manually
>open the decorate lump I want to edit
>see this
>close notepad
>take a shower
>think about my life choices

>> No.3182791

>opening anything with notepad
not even once

use notepad++

>> No.3182798

Fellas, I can't find the PS2 skins available for download because the ripping process is complete horse shit.

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Oh okay, that worked. Thanks fem

>> No.3182814

Theres acs/decorate syntax highlighting plugins for it even.

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>> No.3182835

I ended up using the assault rifle as an LMG with the upgrades (drums, improved bore, muzzle-brake), but the idea of it I guess is mainly like a real assault rifle (besides the fact that the gun was there and they wanted to add it), bridging the gap between the SMG and the rifle, bringing higher firepower and range while still being controllable and rapid (it even had a scope available, though I never used it). I found it was good against those flying guys.

I'd say that you could treat it as an extension of the MP40's ammopool in a way, but the MP40 could have a silencer attached, and it's ammo gets less common late in the game.


>> No.3182851
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The fruits of the stream! Mel has some new melee attacks and also...MEGA PUNCH. Animations outside of actual combat still being worked on, and there's a whole slew of alternate attacks I haven't worked in yet, but still!

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>> No.3182884

What's eerie is you linked to a successfully archived two year old post

>> No.3182902

nice elbow smack
the righty robo punch looks slow and wimpy tho
the first one, not the uppercut

>> No.3182923

So Gearbox got John St John to record new Duke lines for the new episode they're making for their upcoming DN3D port.

And while they're at it, they got JSJ to re-record every line from the original game.

... Who wants to bet they got him to tune down some of the "politically not correct" stuff?

>> No.3182925

God I hope not. I'm expecting the worst, though.

>> No.3182931
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I heard that one of the lines he has in the new game is "Bazinga"

>> No.3182932

And then the new episode gets promptly ported to EDuke32

>> No.3182940

I'm surprised they didn't try and get the original recordings from the 3DR archives...

Well, that'd require talking to 3DR, and if there's anything ol' Randall hates more than negative reviews, modders or non-embarassing writing, it's talking to anyone who's on friendly-nod-of-acknowledgement terms with Scott Miller.

>> No.3182947
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>decide to try the new doom4.wad
>the guns actually feel good
>want nudoom afterwards

Didn't expect that.

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>> No.3182959

They have them. They have everything.

>> No.3182968

but do they have the ability to not fuck everything up

>> No.3182981
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>but do they have the ability to not fuck everything up
take a wild guess, famalam

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>> No.3183024

First thing I'm gonna do when I get my hands on DuuM is to rip and tear the weapons into the sprites. Properly - with all animations and shit.

>> No.3183028

I assume Duke's future is really dark and there will be no Reloaded or Megaton editions anymore? BAZINGA

>> No.3183030

If Borderlands Pre-Sequel any indication, expect meme-loaded cringefest for a plot.

>> No.3183031

Gearbox are gonna milk him dry in the worst ways possible.

>> No.3183034

I keep seeing the word Amiga and I get excited for something Amiga related, why the hell do you keep doing this.

>> No.3183039

But we are amiga lad

>> No.3183042
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What did we do to deserve this?

>> No.3183046

At least I still have Duke 3D.

>> No.3183053



It's surprisingly solid. Most weapons have alternate modes as well that you get via pickups.

Difficulty is off the charts though. I don't know why many modders like to give enemies fuckhuge damage bonuses and not just keeping them vanilla.

>> No.3183059

Why do they still have a job after DNF and colonial marines

Because tards like borderlands so much?

>> No.3183065

>Minimap in the corners of the screen

Why the fuck dont we have it in ZDoom? I remember seing the code for this being submitted in the forums. Would've made my Doom experiences at least 30% more enjoyable.

>> No.3183071

Basically yes. Borderlands is their big money maker. That other FPS MOBA thing they're making also looks like it's getting fans. Art style looks totally rubbish.

>> No.3183072

I also remember someone in these threads doing ACS version with a pre-made image of the map. Anyone knows what cam out of it? I'd like to know because I want to use pre-rendered pseudo-3D isometricised map for my mod.

>> No.3183076
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Any love for Outlaws in here?

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You are now aware shadow warrior 2 is literally borderlands

STRAFE(R) is the last hope of ye olde singleplayer shooters

>> No.3183082

Never heard of it. Reminds me of the wild west mods for Doom made in the 90s though.

>> No.3183083

>You are now aware shadow warrior 2 is literally borderlands
Uh, what? It has retarded weapon system now too?

>> No.3183086
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>4 player co-op
>hub based
>damage numbers
>hilarious QUIPS from deliberately annoying (tm) sidekick (new best character award right there)
>loot, loot and more loot
>"an homage to old school shooters [...] first person shoot, loot and slash"

>> No.3183095

>STRAFE(R) is the last hope of ye olde singleplayer shooters

Then we're fucked.

>> No.3183096

>Then we're fucked.
Yes. That we are.

>> No.3183097

/newstuff #495

>> No.3183102


Outlaws is cool as shit, I still need to beat it.

Also fuck you for indirectly reminding me that OutlawsXL still isn't released.

>> No.3183106

Never heard of it. I've got the GOG version of the game, anyway.

Also, when you finish the game, don't forget there's more levels available in the main menu.

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Spill your opinion on secrets. Is there too many? What about secrets in secrets? How hard/easy do you like em? Do you go back to look for secrets or do you just take em as they come?

>> No.3183118

God, it does look like Borderlands, just more asian.

>> No.3183119

Game was awesome and I'm surprised there aren't any Doom WADs that use Outlaws assets aside from Pirate Doom.

>> No.3183120


Secrets in vanilla are fine. They're not too overly difficult to find and teaches the player to look at differences in enviroments.

Something some map makers really need to learn...

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>> No.3183123

Secrets are great, but not when they're impossibly hidden. Pressing the Use key against a wall and it opening up to reveal more health or a really early hard hitting weapon or something is always nice.

>> No.3183125

Quake 1 was the shittiest in the series and nothing more than Doom 3D.

>> No.3183127

Quake 2 was the worst in the series and nothing more than "Quake 1 minus fun"

>> No.3183129


Nah, Quake is great. Great use of the 3D engine, varied enemies and solid levels. The grenade launcher was pretty fucking dope when it was released too, being able to bounce around corners and shit.

>> No.3183130


Quake 4 was a neat entry into the series and I liked some of the weapons and the campaign was pretty fucking fun

>> No.3183131

Nigger I bet you like Doom 4 as well faggot.

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Also, shamelessly asking how good/bad this secret is.
The whole thing before I shoot the pillar is to show nothing happens when player might try to usehump wall

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>> No.3183135

why the salt bro

>> No.3183136

Who the fuck wants to play randomizers like LegenDoom or Colorful Hell? If you're unlucky you might get shitstomped 10 seconds into the map if you do pistol start.

>> No.3183137

Cryptic. I would never guess I have to shoot a pillar.

>> No.3183138

I don't really think I would've shot the pillar. I only try to shoot buttons.

>> No.3183139

>Oblige with settings to shitton of monsters and weapons/ammo rare
>LegenDoom with loads of legendary monsters
I-I like it ;_;

>> No.3183140

I like it more when secrets are hidden switches rather than the 'spot the difference' kind. Although there is place for both. I also really like it when there's enemies or entire encounters within a secret. Big optional hidden areas are great, Miasma had a lot of that.

>> No.3183143

i'd probably try to push it, go "oh hey i'm not sfx_noway'ing, it's a special line" and then try to shoot it

>> No.3183147


I haven't played vanilla in a loooong time, but I don't remember having to actively shoot anything to activate a button or secret. In Duke 3D I think there were a few such moments but I can't remember any in Doom.

So no, I wouldn't not have tried shooting the pillar. Perhaps a button.

>> No.3183148

To the guy who made Combined Arms - gr8 mod except for the fact that SSG replacement uses plasma fucking ammo so there is no reason to use it over new plasma rifle you dumb fucking shitfaced cunt.

>> No.3183149

huh, not bad at all
last time i tried it it was horrendous with terrible sounds and dumb looking sprites

>> No.3183150

The altfire on the nailgun gives you cell ammo if you hurt enemies with it

>> No.3183151


Use the nailgun's altfire you salty bastard. Give yourself cells and then use the smasher for upclose or when you want to make shit die. Use the buster rifle for rapidfire plasma rattatats.

>> No.3183152

>I wouldn't not have tried shooting the pillar
"wouldn't not"?

>> No.3183153

How's Brutal Doom?

>> No.3183154

Fun for a bit then gets a bit tiring. There's better weapon mods.

>> No.3183156

The point is not the lack of ammo but the fact that new plasma rifle simply outshines the fucking SSG so players are stuck with a useless placeholder weapon you nigger loving fuckers.

>> No.3183157

The plasma SSG is fucking strong though.

>> No.3183158

Would be better if guns actually killed enemies instead of having to finish off every second Imp because Mark thought it's gritty to make the player waste another shot on a wounded enemy.

>> No.3183159

Goddamn polacks ruining everything

>> No.3183161
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>Those wails most enemies do after you "kill" them

This is like, psychopathic shit. I hate it.

>> No.3183162

I know there's shootable secrets in Doom II: off the top of my head, there's the numerous secrets in the dark, zombie filled part of Refueling Base.

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Yeah, I was watching a stream while writing. I tend to mix up words then.


Figured there was something I missed. I remember you could shoot buttons in Duke 3D, but couldn't remember if Doom did any of the sorts.


>mfw using speakers
>roommate starts wondering what the fuck I'm doing

I really don't play BD anymore. I kind of grew out of it.

>> No.3183167

on E1M2 the path to the chainsaw pillar requires shooting to open. there's also the chaingun secret on E2M4.

>> No.3183168

Do you have more (or archive) of these comics?

>> No.3183169

Painkiller was a revelation, then they split into leeches farm 51, flying wild hog and epic games poland

It would seem that epic games poland is where all the A-team talent went, but only to make a shit game about gears of war spess mahreens being fat in space

>> No.3183171

Why Hell Knights bleed red in Brutal Doom?

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I wish I had an archive, I used to have a SHITLOAD of TUUUUBESSS stuff, but after I lost it when I wiped my hard drive like a dumbass, I had to recover some images from knowyourmeme

>> No.3183173

Cause Sgt. Mark is a hack.

>> No.3183178

It was either green blood or fatalities. No joke.

>> No.3183179

the BFG closet on map20

on map18, you start behind a shootable door

>> No.3183180

It's released in the resources subforum on the zdoom forums. Includes instructions for setting the thing up.

>> No.3183189

send tubes, I'll keep them safe

>> No.3183190

Fun for the first two or three times, then it gwets boring fast.
DemonSteele is better than Brutal Doom tbqh.
At least the focus was more on modifying the weapons and enemy behaviors in an interesting way as compared to BD. I found you can also play it like a strategic version of Doom, in a sense.

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This isn't a tubes thread you silly person, just keep your eyes peeled and I'll drop a few here and there.

>> No.3183197

Well, you're actually right. Those recreation weapons actually feel pretty good.

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Daily reminder that never ever due to engine limitations

>> No.3183249

Secrets are great as long as they're reasonable.

I don't want to have to look for some super hidden, unmarked switch across the map that there's no indication it is a switch.

Taunting the player with a window, showing that the secret exists, is a great way to encourage them to look for how to get there, see the window with the Soulsphere in E1M3.

Secrets within secrets are great, see E1M3 once again.

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>> No.3183263

Ooh i got it.
You want a gun mod that does NOT modify the monsters and monster behavior.

Here was I thinking about a weapon that effectively doesn't do anything to enemies.

Jesus man, phrasing.

>> No.3183265

Does Brutal Trailblazer include that new Trailblazer update?

>> No.3183269
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Huh, even dumb kids who've never heard of Doom still think it's a fun game.

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Actually, I put that through a Commodore 64 image converter.


>> No.3183275

i dun geddit

>> No.3183276


>implying those aren't actors hired by those literal jews.

>> No.3183279
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And whoever made these HD statusbar faces must had a field day.

>> No.3183281


ok, you think you're smart by stating the obvious?

>> No.3183282

What's there to get? Flak cannon is cathartic on a primordial level, like super shotgun++

>> No.3183284

so what engine limitations are preventing someone from doing a flak cannon in doom?

>> No.3183285
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Like seriously

>> No.3183290

It won't feel the same in a 2.5D engine, ricochets would be extremely hard to code I'd imagine

>> No.3183294

bouncing projectiles have been a thing since heretic
nothing difficult there

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>> No.3183297

Both Zen Dynamics and Zero Tolerance have featured functional ricocheting projectiles.

>> No.3183301

Woah this is disturbing.

>> No.3183302


I'm fairly sure there was one available in ye olde zdoom decorate weapon project or whatever that old thing with the tons of zdoom weapons was.

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gravity 0.70
wallbouncefactor 1.1
BounceCount 40

It's pretty easy

>> No.3183309

There was a double-barrel shotgun that fired solid projectiles.

I also recall that Immoral Conduct: Special Edition, had the "Slasher Shotgun".
Also why hasn't Immoral Conduct been properly ported to ZDoom yet? It's long overdue.

>> No.3183314

So why there was never an unreal weapon pack for doom

No momentum conservation, color does not change as glowing chunks cool off, and it's still just sprites

Ehh, close enough

>> No.3183316


To be fair I just slapped this together, if someone really took their time they could really make a good looking rebounding gun.

>> No.3183318


Probably not what I'm thinking of, I recall there was one with the proper Unreal 1 Flak Cannon model and sound effects. Maybe it wasnt in the resource project ? I don't remember I just recall stealing the code for a personal project of mine.

>> No.3183324

because you didn't look hard enough


granted there's inaccuracies but it's from like 2008

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>> No.3183331

Here's a thing about Flak projectiles - first, when fired they are not affected by gravity, but when they strike a wall, they bounce off and then they become affected. IDK how to make that in DECORATE and im not knowledgable enough of ACS to do it through scripts.

>> No.3183346


That'd be an easy case if using bouncestates, and then the first time a projectile hits a wall, a_changeflag ("nogravity", 0)

and then go from there, you could also make the projectile jump to a new state where it changes visual effects

>> No.3183347

we have bounce states in decorate nowadays
completely doable

>So why there was never an unreal weapon pack for doom
custom weapon sprites
main reason why many mods don't exist

>> No.3183352

>Secrets within secrets are great, see E1M3 once again.
Hell, see the first level of Wolfenstein 3D.

>> No.3183359


found some ancient footage of it, hopefully it sheds some light on the whole engine limitation thing

>> No.3183363

there were no bouncestates when I last tried it (long time ago). Might try that again.

I think it has more to do with how it's workings are shown - in UT99 when you shoot it, barrel jumps all the way upwards, then a special pump either delivers a new shell into the slot, or ejects the old shell if Flak was used, then puts a new one back in, all in a few smooth motions. It feels much more satisfying than regular shotgun reloads.

>> No.3183371

>I think it has more to do with how it's workings are shown - in UT99 when you shoot it, barrel jumps all the way upwards, then a special pump either delivers a new shell into the slot, or ejects the old shell if Flak was used, then puts a new one back in, all in a few smooth motions. It feels much more satisfying than regular shotgun reloads.
Yes, good presentation can elevate a cool mechanic to brilliant level. Never been a fan of UT sound design though, quake's punchy meaty sounds compare favorably to UT's softer pneumatic-like FX

>> No.3183374

What do you guys think of the possibility of a good Model 1887 in ZDoom?
I've only seen the one on Realm667 and its pretty lackluster.

>> No.3183378

Trailblazer is one of those mods where it's well made, but the weapons are so powerful that you have to either play really hard wads or use things like Colorful Hell to create an actual challenge.

>> No.3183384

The main problem I have with it is the BFG9000 replacement which doesn't feel like it does the same amount of damage or have the same amount of crowd control utility.

>> No.3183394

>U4ET and ChaosUT weapons


>> No.3183396

I'll leave this here:

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>> No.3183406

Some anon making an indie fps who posts here made an amazing one.

>> No.3183415
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Handheld gaming was never good

>> No.3183419

Most handheld shooters, at least

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>> No.3183423

dat dungeon crawler engine

>> No.3183424

thats why you can't carry insane amounts of ammo with you.

>> No.3183428
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Have a hand of smugness I used for carmack

>> No.3183432

>hand of op's boyfriend holding his dick

Noice, gonna use it.

>> No.3183453

I unironically like that dithered low res art style.

>> No.3183459

By the way that port is pretty much dead for now. It's creator has failed too many SAN checks while working with the zdoom source code.

I think writing a wad importer for UE4 would be the best for someone skilled in programming to take doom modding/TC-making to the next level

>> No.3183464
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Papers please guy seems to share your opinion

It's a stark aesthetic if anything, but a bit hard on the eyes

>> No.3183467

Dude you just referenced Call of Cthulhu. You must be so poplar, can I such your dick?

>> No.3183471

>Kek hard
>reverse image search
>It's a series
Bless you, good sir.

>> No.3183474

That one doesn't have shades of gray though, which makes it a bit too visually oppressive.

>> No.3183478

It's a work in progress I think, just grabbed the first screenshot I could find

All the recent preview build videos have SOME TWAT jabbering over them, infuriating when you just wanna see the game

Gold rush is over, cunts, go get a job

>> No.3183495

Are you serious? I was thinking about making an actual commercial product on GLOOME (for real).

What about GPLZDoom?

>> No.3183516

>Are you serious?
Yes. It hasn't been updated in 10 months.

>What about GPLZDoom?
Most likely a much better bet right now, since it's always up to date and there's been a lot of very important additions since gloome branched off. The best thing about gloome except it being the first gpl port was that it didn't have the same kind of compatibility requirement baggage and a dev who isn't all [NO] as (g)zdoom.

>> No.3183525

>I was thinking about making an actual commercial product on GLOOME (for real).
Would it really be easier to make a 2.5D shooter than low poly flat shaded 3D?

>> No.3183527


Nothing saying you still can't use it. Just that it'll be slightly out of date compared to the parent engine.

>> No.3183532

So any updates on either Kaiser's Blood port or BloodXL?

>> No.3183536


>> No.3183610

Low poly 3D always looks worse than good 2D spriting., and Spriting is much easier to stylise in a way you want it, while low poly count complicates addition of details (thinking about doing stuff, textures and sprites at about double the res of DooM, but keeping it backward compatible, so DooM maps still can be loaded without looking like crap.)

>> No.3183615
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>Low poly 3D always looks worse than good 2D spriting.
I'm not sure I agree with that.

>> No.3183627

>is it some kind of fetish thing?
Yes. Like a lot of ZDoom personalities he puts his fetish into his work in plain sight. His fetish for unnecessarily complicated code.

>> No.3183629

excuse me m8 but you uh, forgot the >>

>> No.3183631

>Low poly 3D always looks worse than good 2D spriting
Not from a 1st person perspective though. You can have low poly 3D and not have it look like mario 64.

>> No.3183640

So what's the fetishes of the other guys?

>> No.3183641
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I used outlaws textures and an enemy sprite set in 'a morte'. At that stage of the mod you're usually down to revolver and winchester anyway so it has a pretty outlaws feel.

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I can't take this seriously

>> No.3183647 [DELETED] 


fuck you fuckers who call this stupid nigger kike faggot gook chink dog shit good this is exactly why I'm glad ISIS exists you fucking assholes

>> No.3183648

Zaneion is into feet and crushing for one. Which is astronomically obvious.

>> No.3183657

You haven't really "made it" as a Doom modder until you have someone really angry and shitposting about your work.

>> No.3183660

The truth.

>> No.3183671

why the fuck do people keep saying this shit? i refuse to believe people who think strafe looks good have played quake or doom, why are you here?

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>> No.3183680
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I think both look plenty fun.

>> No.3183687

Mothafuck Combined Arms.

>> No.3183689
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turn down your sensitivity

>> No.3183694

Goddammit the new UT is fucking good.
It makes Doom 4's multiplayer even more shameful.

>> No.3183725
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>Low poly 3D always looks worse than good 2D spriting

>> No.3183734
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>turn down your sensitivity
B-but m-muh flickshots! I'm used to reasonably high sens, and hitscan is for boring people anyway

>i refuse to believe people who think strafe looks good have played quake or doom, why are you here?
You're free to believe whatever, friend. Download speedzone V2 and see how core mechanics feel to you.

>> No.3183745

How do you guys keep your Doom files together? I just have them all in GZDoom and it looks like a fucking mess and I forget what is what.

Also are they any other Doom Beat Em Ups besides Action Doom?

>> No.3183762
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I'm a faggot and I keep them like this. SUPERWAD is the shitty name I came up with for the folder where I keep my WIP wads.

>> No.3183775

Let's play a game, /vr/. Let's see how long you can last reading this thread without cringing.


Also, congratulations, you guys officially had a better reaction to that video compared to Doomworld.

>> No.3183776
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Download ZDL and maximize organizations by folder-sorting everything.

Pic related is an example of how I do it.

>> No.3183783
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i keep my heirarchy like this. pwad is where all doomseeker downloaded files go. iwad is where all the actual game's go. mwad is where i place my personal wads so i dont get them mixed up with the thousands of wads doomseeker shits out. engines have their own folders because i rarely intereact with them. i use zdl or doomseeker to load all games so have a shortcut in the top heirarchy for the folder

also premier ideaguy here. i love fist combat, guy above me reminded me that i do. i want a mod to replace every weapon with different combat styles (judo, karate, ANGER) get to it CHOP CHOP please

>> No.3183789
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>Typical "My generation a shit"
>Music bashing
>That music he lists
>*giggles with joy*

Man, it's almost like I'm sort of seeing young me, except edgier.

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>And then dont even get me started on the fact that half my generation would rather listen to mainstream Dubstep, Rap, Hip-Hop, pop bullshit, then become an individual, think for themselves, question authority, resist the man, and listen to punk, heavy metal, trash metal, death metal, anime music, Japanese rock, classic rock....

>> No.3183807 [DELETED] 

Is there any shittier mod than Combined Arms?

>> No.3183813

In my GZDoom folder, I have a folder for all the games I have that it can run, then in the game folder, I have them separated by total conversion, maps, and gameplay folders.

>> No.3183815

I liked mistercow's comment. He was right.

>> No.3183817
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So, what's a gun you' like to see made for Doom, and would you see it done with some detail, or just depicted generically?

>> No.3183820
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>taking it seriously
>all that KIDS THESE DAYS talk

>> No.3183825
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>Joe Ilya makes one of the less retarded posts in the thread, if a little vapid

>> No.3183827

I'd love to have a bolter in Doom. When it comes to detail, I'd rather it just be a good looking sprite that replaces the chaingun or something, having a lore friendly one would be game breaking.

>> No.3183830 [DELETED] 

Combined Arms is dog shit.

>> No.3183836

I gotta look into it now.

>> No.3183841

the penetrator from F.E.A.R.

>> No.3183851

>tfw 2 generations older
>tfw enjoy Metalstep and Industrial greately

>> No.3183861

FEAR had fucking immaculate gunplay and enemies. Shame about the on-rails levels design and drab environments.

If I were a game designer tasked with making the next new fps I'd combine those elements with some of the level design philosophy and rhythm/balance of combat from quake and doom.

>> No.3183864

Don't worry, on page three a user named Nirvana tears into him.

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>> No.3183874
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shoulda woulda coulda

talk is cheap faggot. do something, do what you love make something of yourself. if you managed to take the combat from F.E.A.R. with level design like doom (i cant see it being done for quake), you would be the next big thing

>> No.3183884 [DELETED] 

Why is Combined Arms so garbage?

>> No.3183887

Because having your arms combined into one makes it really hard to use guns.

>> No.3183892
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Would probably be OP but i don't care.

>> No.3183896

You must be the guy who posted the three Combined Arms posts I responded to not too long ago. Just tried it out, it was pretty fun, thanks for bringing attention to it.

>> No.3183897
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He's taking my idea!

>> No.3183907

>shoulda woulda coulda
..but I am making a game, it's just not an FPS.

>if you managed to take the combat from F.E.A.R. with level design like doom (i cant see it being done for quake), you would be the next big thing
I don't have the funds or skills to do that at the moment. But I'm working on improving both of those things and like I said, also making a (simpler than this) game.

>> No.3183910
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that mega punch thing looks cool as fuck!

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>> No.3183918
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>I don't have the funds or skills

You will one day, Anon. Believe.

>> No.3183923

To make this game, he must fund you, john romero.

>> No.3183951

>[04-30] Anon mod release: DoomShock beta
The release version of this can be found in the 64k contest thread now. Thought I'd let you know for next news post.

>> No.3183958
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Why the hell isn't this game on any form of digital distribution? I really want to play it.

>> No.3183971

It's compability with Win7+ is kinda shit. Crashes almost everytime when you load a level that isn't the tutorial.

>> No.3183979

install linux and run it through wine. i have found that older windows games run better in wine than on windows itself

>> No.3183982
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Fellas, this was complete horse shit.

And I can't find documentation on Quake 3 shaders so the visors don't have the proper reflections and the purple one doesn't have the right colour border.

>> No.3183983

This wad is what made me want to start playing Doom

>> No.3184008

I'm going to need a Doomguy recolour of #4

>> No.3184009

Redpill me on the new Doom, is going to be any good?

>> No.3184015

Anon I'm going to shit myself, and it's going to smell real bad.

>> No.3184017

It's going to be a good game.
It's going to be a bad Doom.

>> No.3184023

It is going to be enjoyable, it is going to be a good sequel to Doom, people will shit on it though for not being 1:1 remake of Doom (who would shit on it if it were a 1:1 remake of doom anyways) such as for example, disregarding the game because there is no face animation on the bottom of the screen, or if there is no doom marine in the background of the new cover

>> No.3184039
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The Quake 3 Revolution loading screen looks like someone's first Photoshop project.

I can't decide if I like it a lot, or if I'm disgusted.

>> No.3184050

What other kind of cool assets are exclusive to the PS2 version? I think Klesk had a new skin, yeah?

>> No.3184052

Looks like it could be pretty decent, at least single player.
Lots of people seem to hate the multiplayer.

If you expect to be anything like Doom, the closest it'll be is going to be Doom 3 (which I personally thought was ok), but probably with some better action and more varied levels.

>> No.3184053

I never got really stuck when I played Hexen for the first time (a year or two ago).

You guys should be used to getting a mental picture of the maps in your head.

It is true that sometimes, you press a switch, and don't know what it does until you find it, but generally it's not too bad, and in the worst case scenario you just check the whole map again in a methodical manner.

I think I did some sequence breaking at one point though but I'm still not sure about that.

>> No.3184058

Yeah, Klesk has new skins. Once I finish Doomguy's campaign to make sure there isn't another skin after Warlord I'll list off the characters you can play as in the campaign to unlock skins.

>> No.3184073

>edge glow
>drop shadow
>radial blur/zoom

Job done.

>> No.3184096

Will probably be decent

>> No.3184102



>> No.3184106

When you first play it, read the title as "vaguely influenced by Doom", instead of "DOOM".

Then see it being somewhat acceptable. As doom game though, it doesn't hold up at all.

>> No.3184115

Oooh, it's white and gold.

>> No.3184116

I remember the campaign was modified and you fought the announcer as a final boss.
I actually kind of want to play it again but than I remember the 60 second loading screens

>> No.3184119

Single player will probably be ok. Multiplayer depends entirely on whether you enjoy halo multiplayer or not. I'll probably pick it up on sale.

>> No.3184124

Anyone else think this look like shit?

>> No.3184129


Awful multiplayer, limited modding, only cursory nods to the original, snore-inducing glory kills which they can't stop putting the emphasis on.

>> No.3184135

Anyone got a link to that Shadow Warrior map released a few threads ago?

>> No.3184136

have you tried the news post

>> No.3184137

>Comments are disabled for this video
what do you think

personally i just dont understand texture remakes. it is impossible to pull off exactly what the designers went for. i have seen one situation where hd textures were nice and that was in a game that isn't even fucking retro. original quake looks fine as it is

>> No.3184147

... ah, right, thanks

>> No.3184182

Looks shit

The kind of mods I want to see for Quake are remodeled and reanimated weapons. Maybe a mod that halves the fire rate of the shotguns but doubles their damage to make them feel more satisfying.

>> No.3184185

Morrowind Overhaul comes to mind. High res textures can really fuck a game up.

>> No.3184191
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>lets just put really highres textures with bump-mapping and lightmapping, and some filters, in a game where the map geometry is comparatively simple and straight-forward, so that everything looks incredibly out of place at all times
>lets also make the monsters high polygon, with the same high speed low drag features, but keep the animations the same, and the effects the same but just higher res
Why do people do this? It looks fucking terrible.
Imagine if you retextured Wolfenstein 3D in 4k res textures, it'd look fucking WEIRD

>> No.3184193

that was no joke exactly what i was thinking of when i wrote that. morrowind overhaul is fantastic

most of the time it isn't done nearly as well

>> No.3184195

Morrowind Overhaul kind of looks good though (probably because it does more than just slather hires textures on everything and calling it a day)

>> No.3184201

There's an *excellent* texture overhaul for System Shock 2 (it pretty much just increases resolution a bit, making text on monitors actually readable etc), and I recall one for Deus Ex: Invisible War being pretty good.

>> No.3184205




also, leddit link for context https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4hhbg6/doom_resources_explorer_just_appeared_on_mod_db/

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>> No.3184210

Hope this leads to some awesome hacks and mods.

>> No.3184216

God damn right I was

>> No.3184218

Thank You Mr Skeltal

>> No.3184219

Anybody got a copy of Masters of Doom in an e-book format like epub or mobi?

>> No.3184221
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I remember seeing a picture of pic related with a "high res texture pack" and ENB.

>> No.3184229


you can download the pdf and convert it tho

>> No.3184232
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Head-on-Apply directly to the forehead.

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>> No.3184239

That's the one.
Thanks for responding to my thinly veiled request.

>> No.3184243

Also, I might as well do this >>3181407

>> No.3184246

Where the fuck do you even get the resource files?
I have the DOOM beta crack, but there's no .resource files at all.

>> No.3184247

If it would've been possibe to actually add your own meshes into the game, then maybe it would be possible to add our own bits into Snapmap, meaning we could do some actual mapping with this thing.

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>> No.3184256

you know what must be done

>> No.3184267

the only thing that will save doom 4... is modding in memes

pay attention gearbox

>> No.3184269
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actually did this, got carsur.wad: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/carsur

demo here: https://my.mixtape.moe/iastji.lmp
video of demo here: https://vid.me/KbmM

two short levels with simple architecture, no backtracking, not terribly challenging. for some reason the wad has doom 64 sounds in it.

it ends very abruptly - you get a super shotgun about half of the way through the second map, you fight a hell knight, a few cacodemons, some cannon fodder, and then the map ends eight next to a big box of shells. use a lift, the map ends, and it dumps you into doom 2's map03.

overall: it's ok

>> No.3184270

I got it from the plebbit, I wouldn't know what to do with a model file if my life depended on it

>> No.3184289

>A lost soul that follows you around spewing terrible jokes and memes incessantly as the series mascot.

>> No.3184306

It will probably be like every other AAA FPS out there: alright games on their own. But at the same time, it won't be as memorable as the previous installments of Doom and that's okay.

>> No.3184329

It gives bad advice too.

>"Hey, did you know those pink demons have very sensitive tongues?"

>"This cramped hallway looks dangerous, better whip out the rocket launcher."

>"I heard there's a failsafe on teleporters that prevent it from working if you stand on one end when someone tries using the other."

>> No.3184330

Worked well in planescape:torment desu senpai

>> No.3184336


>This is a cyberdemon ! To kill him you just have to shoot it until it dies !

(le epin maymay :D)

>> No.3184346
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Well I got the visor right for the model, but the little head on the bottom of the screen isn't right; I can see the world and my gun through the visor behind the energy, the visor, and possibly behind the environment texture (which is a screenshot of Doom with the chainsaw equipped facing some barons or knights)

>> No.3184348
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A mild mess.

IWADs are kept mainly in ZDOOM but there might be copies in other port folders. I can't fucking keep track and I never bother.

Not included in this screenie are shortcuts to SLADE and ZDL at the bottom.

>> No.3184352

Definitely my favorite skin so far. Made me want to reinstall Q3.

>> No.3184357

It's really good fun.

Now to see what other characters have new skins, and see if I like them enough to do this horse shit all over again.

>> No.3184358
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>This is a Revenant. Its homing projectiles are very dangerous from afar, but it is defenseless from melee range. Try heading closer.

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>"defenseless from melee range"

>> No.3184364 [DELETED] 

time for a new thread fellas

>> No.3184378 [DELETED] 


end you are the self my man

>> No.3184379

How new are you

>> No.3184392

Nah man

>> No.3184402 [DELETED] 

B-but senpai cuck, this one is still ripping and tearing :c plsno

>> No.3184406 [DELETED] 

telling a person to kill herself for this? hows your plan for Columbine 2 coming around? psychopath

>> No.3184414


i don't know what you mean by this. i don't browse tumblr my man

>> No.3184415
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I know what you mean senpai.

>> No.3184417

newfag kys :")

>> No.3184425 [DELETED] 


The only "Her"s on this site are traps.

>> No.3184431
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that is way too fast

>> No.3184440

Well, you know what they day right?
Gotta go fast.

>> No.3184470

no its monday

>> No.3184475

Damn, Quake 3 looks good without the vaseline filter.

>> No.3184478

Is Quake 3 worth picking up?
I never played it.
My only experience with Quake MP is Quake Live, and that seems to be the only one that's still remotely alive.

>> No.3184485

It's round-based deathmatch so no.
It sucks and you can just skip it and buy UT2004 instead. Way better at that type of thing.

>> No.3184487

I don't know if there's much of an online community, but if you can get it then it's fun to play through the campaign or just skirmishes with bots, both are about the same.

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>> No.3184506


>> No.3184580 [DELETED] 

Go back to


>> No.3184612

This is the shittest bait even by this thread's standards.

So that guarantees people falling for it instantly.

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>> No.3184625

E1M2 chainsaw secret.

>> No.3184663

to be fair this one has monsters (and i think a barrel) right in front of it, so there's high chances that you'd open it by accident (like with a stray chaingun or shotgun bullet/pellet)

>> No.3184819

how do i jump
why isn't my health regenerating

shit game desu baka senpai

>> No.3184830

your health regenerates, you just need to pick up some stuff to make it regenerate :^)

>> No.3184856


That brings up an interesting thought:

What if someone made a mod where the medikits and stimpacks healed over time rather than immediately?

>> No.3184874

That's kinda like what Hideous Destructor does, isn't it?

>> No.3184875

then gameplay would slow down just to take cues from cod

>> No.3184887

Sorry, I got sidetracked.

Sarge, Anarki, Doom, Daemia, Klesk, Reaper, Mistress, and there should be two more that you unlock by beating the single-player campaign on the easiest mode, which I'm doing while trying to rip Daemia.

>> No.3184904
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Stream Anon once again.

I posted about this earlier but I figure I'd do it again cus I'm a self promoting dickweed.

But yeah, like I said before, I'm looking for fellow members of the /doom/ community to co-commentate with me as I play D44M for the first time, which I have decided will most likely be on sometime at night on Tuesday the 17th.

I'm planning on having a group call on Skype for co-commentators (although if there are more people that would rather use another service then I'd be happy to oblige), so if you're interested, jut leave your Skype name or whatever contact suits you!

>> No.3184905

I think it will be fun to play singleplayer but it won't be worth money.

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I would join you, but I'll be too busy playing D44M

>> No.3184908


You could make a powerup inheriting from PowerRegeneration.

>> No.3184913
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me too. I'm gonna make a friendly cacodemon escort mission on memesnap

>> No.3184914

>Doomguy Gundam

What I would give for a Mecha mod for Doom.

>> No.3184916

That guy who was making a Space Station 13 mod had some sort of mech suit in it.

>> No.3184919

I'll probably remake Episode 1 so I can learn it, like everyone else

I've got a model of the gundam in that drawing, been tempted to paint it like that

>> No.3184939

There's that guy making the Battletech mod.

>> No.3184949

Yeah, I'm keeping up with that. I have the original made by Wild Weasel, and I love it.

I'll have to look into that.

That'd be awesome.

>> No.3184953
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I'm currently writing down shit I'd like to see if I can fix or improve for the sake of a quality of life thing in GMOTA, one thing that's been bothering me is subweapon drought when people play co-op (If anyone still does anymore)

One idea I had to address that was make the SSG, Rocket Launcher, and Plasma gun spawn a unique chest you whack open for a subweapon, then after a second or two, the chest closes and lets players whack it open again, the catch would be those subweapons can't be stacked for POW.

I still intend on balancing the Blazter's uncharged primary fire to be a "combo" thing where if the player hammers the fire button, they shoot three wimpy shots and then finish it with a mid shot, then a half second pause before they can resume shooting, probably remove the mid charge shot from charging entirely too.

Finally I'm not sure what the fuck I want to do with crash charges, the other characters aren't gonna have item crashes, and the crash charge pickup is something that breaks in multiplayer. So if I ditched crash charge pickups.

I'd have to figure out a way for the player to earn the ability to do item crashes, I was thinking a system like I did with the Daibatana in C_A: Hurt dudes, build charge, get a stock for a big attack.

Of course I'd still have to think of what the fuck I'm gonna do with the crash expanders then.

Chaos revenants are gonna get a small nerf so they don't spin so fucking long too.

and don't get me started on how badly I wanna fix some of my atrocious DECORATE

>> No.3184962


haven't played gmota in ages, what's a crash expander?

>> No.3184965


You know that little counter above your subweapon box? The 0/3 thing? You need those to throw out the big item crashes. Expanders replaced the backpack and made you carry more, up to 9

I was a bit of a dingus when it came to balancing GMOTA out with some things, and that's putting it lightly.

>> No.3184970

>I was a bit of a dingus

you could've stopped there (^:

>> No.3184974


The problem with that though is that's simply not true.

was would imply I ever stopped being a dingus

>> No.3184978

what if you changed crash expanders into a crash boost?

>> No.3184980

I finished Doom 3. I like it Tbh

>> No.3184985


a boost? Like giving the player a full chargeup of the meter? I don't think that'd work out too well, I don't picture it taking TOO much effort to build up the meter, going out of the way for an item that build up a full meter that'd take like 20 seconds of combat doesn't seem too useful

Plus like I said before, Blaz is the only guy with item crashes, so it wouldn't be very useful for the others I got planned.

Item crashes were a mistake, part of me wants to tone them WAAAAAYYYYYY back to just being a slightly more powerful subweapon attack that always consumes a full bar of stamina, and make stamina regen when your sword is powered up too

>> No.3185000


i didn't mean a full charge-up, more like 25% or something

but i guess that's a moot point if it'll be incompatible with future characters

>> No.3185004

add a score system to gmota, all the cool kids are doing it, tie it to EVERYTHING FOREVER

it won't make balance impossible I swear

>> No.3185014


yeah, this is the one of the reasons why I've kinda put GMOTA on the backburner, there's things I want to fix or swap out but I need to put a lot of thought into them before I do anything. Never again will I just dump every idea that crosses my mind onto this mod. That's how I got into this situation in the first place.

So I'm thinking I tone the item crashes way back, WAAAAYYY back, that way I don't have to worry about figuring out an new resource for them and further limiting Blaz's ranged abilities. The manlet knight was never meant to be this absurdly good at ranged combat to begin with, that's way he had that wand a million years ago.


Points are kinda boring though, anon. Unless I tied some goodies to hitting certain point threshholds, which I don't want to because I'm burying the player in powerups already. Like goddamn.

Term's gonna break my testicles later, I don't give a fuck though, I'm personally unhappy with this system, I want to fix it, and I want to continue making progress on this mod

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Subfolders and ZDL are neat. I just have a zipped version of this without the mods and WADS and a ZDL config file I edit in Notepad (CTRL+H, replace all folders with wherever I extracted it) and I'm pretty much ready to go unless I just want to update a source port or something.

>> No.3185138

Single player doesn't look like the worst thing ever, but it isn't perfect, either.

Multiplayer is generic and boring.

>> No.3185153

Not him but I figure that if the movement speed in the SP is faster than the movement speed in the Betas (which, from what we've seen from the SP streams, is certainly the case), then I would figure that the MP movement speed would be the same speed as the SP's. And if that's the case, then it's good in my book.

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>Guardian of Steel

>> No.3185172

I didn't hate it, it just drags on I think.
Too many monster closets and most of the "scare" moments are laughable.

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In my mars one mod I changed all medkits so they stay in your inventory and that you use them when you need them, kind of like the quartz flask in hexen. It works pretty well.

Also anyone know where this pistol sprite is from? an anon posted it last thread and I liked it so much I used it!

>> No.3185184

FEAR was a better Action Horror FPS, IMO.

>> No.3185194

>most of the "scare" moments are laughable

i never thought of it like that but you're absolutely right

but honestly what the fuck was with the level design in Doom 3?

>> No.3185236

I remember one moment specifically because it's so goofy, where a monster closet opens right next to you and a fat zombie lumbers out, emitting a noise that I can only describe as "Boo!"
It got me.

>> No.3185246

the Particle Cannon from Wolfenstein 2009, complete with leaving skeletons instead of regular corpses for anything it kills

Single Player will be reasonably enjoyable, Multiplayer will be meh, Snap Map will be the real gem of the game and the real source for it's long term survival

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>> No.3185264
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>That bit where you look in the mirror in the toilets at the start of the game and it closes up on Doomguy and plays loud noises while his face is completely nonchalant


>> No.3185289

>castle of grief

that is all

>> No.3185294

Are their monster and weapon sprite repositories comparable to realm667?

>> No.3185301

That would make the gl/rl redundant, damage is fine.

>> No.3185326

Do doom 1 and 2's intro demos only play until the player is dead or is there also a set amount of time?

>> No.3185330

They play till the player dies, then change to credits, then change to another demo. Repeat etc. Only works in ports like PrBoom+ and Chocolate Doom though, cause the demos in the main IWADs weren't made in ZDoom so they don't work.

>> No.3185347

IIRC they are also a bit out of synch which makes player die sooner than expected - because they were recorded in 1.0 versions of the game. Especially apparent in one of Heretic demos when player starts attacking walls for no reason in one demo.

>> No.3185360

Exactly what I needed to know, thanks.
Didn't know this. Shouldn't be relevant for recording new demos, but still good to know.

>> No.3185376
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New HUD I'm working on! Only have the Health/Armor portion done right now, working on the right which is a way bigger undertaking.

>> No.3185381

Clean. I like it.
Whenever I see HUDs like this, I wish someone could redo the minimal HUD for Samsara cause god damn that shit's so simple it's ugly.

>> No.3185507

>gl_texturemode gl_nearest (or gl_nearest_mipmap_linear if you want a bit of software esque blurring)

Enjoy your unfiltered, pixely goodness textures in every id tech 1/2/3 and GoldSrc game.

>> No.3185520
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>try nearest_mipmap_linear
>see this


>> No.3185524

What the fuck did you do

>> No.3185528
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default / linear_mipmap_linear for comparison

What does it look like on your end then?

>> No.3185532

About the same, actually.

I'd forgotten Q3A has JELLY SCREEN is all.

>> No.3185545

this is looking really promising. tsp has the coolest art direction mang

>> No.3185552

i remember this, it's like the author got bored and just stopped halfway through map02.

also its choice of DSDMACT is confusing to me, in my mind it sounds like a DSPOSIT so i think there's monsters spotting me all over the place when there's not.

>> No.3185559

For vertically-oriented maps, do you prefer a constant ascent or descent? (i.e. should the exit be way above or way below you?)

>> No.3185560

good question

>> No.3185562
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You descent
Because hell is bellow

>> No.3185564

I'd rather not deal with Doom's walking-down-stairs physics.

>> No.3185565


I was thinking more in a general level design sense in a full 3d engine (Quake).

>> No.3185575

Ascent maps let you quickly backtrack to restock on items or uncover previously locked/hidden secret areas so that's what I prefer. It can also be more push and pull in its flow and have encounters that overwhelm the player and encourage him to make fast retreats.

I don't know what a descent map can offer other than omg so fast speedruns.

Check out Metal Monstrosity, that map has great non-linear vertical gameplay. One of the most dynamic and replayable maps I've played because the roaming AI in Quake is used alongside the non-linear design to allow for so much variation in encounters.

>> No.3185576

"Altitude [..] is a good indicator of level progression"
-- dvii-1i.txt

>> No.3185589

a dosh counter
whatever for
also i still love the look of that uzi

>> No.3185590

"Kill all Jews."
-- Collected Works of Stephen King pt.IV

>> No.3185592

sounds about right
used it a little bit in my DUMP entry

>> No.3185594

you should read it, there's some useful tips amongst all the self-congratulatory wankery.


>> No.3185595

to act as a counterpoint against the other piracy mod, i assume

>> No.3185608

i remember reading in the plan doc marty put up that money has been planned for a while, way before that other pirate mod started

>> No.3185615



>> No.3185617

oh, and thanks to >>3181413 >>3181423 >>3181557 and others for their support.

>> No.3185761

is there already a subweap attack that breaks the subweapon you're using? because that could be a thing imo...

>> No.3185779

if you play through the campaign, and find a lot of the secrets, you'll be able to play through the original doom with the new tech

although i wouldn't mind it being re-made to be more accurate

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