Doom

[Anonymous No.3157961]

Discuss your favorite aspects of the original Doom franchise. Go.

[Anonymous No.3157983]

The super smooth movement. It's one of the reasons I like vanilla-ish settings. No recoil or other fancy weapon effects, no mouselook, just super stable and smooth blasting while on turbo rollerskates.

[Anonymous No.3158092]

>>3157983
Absolutely. Feel the same.

[Anonymous No.3158382]

>>3157961

>>3156804

[Anonymous No.3158496]

I like shooting the demons with my guns.

[Anonymous No.3158918]

>>3157961
The part where you shoot at the monsters

[Anonymous No.3159552]

Doom 64 was surprisingly good.

[Anonymous No.3159569]

Doomguy's constantly changing facial expressions

[Anonymous No.3159571]

>>3157983
/thread

[Anonymous No.3159575]

>>3159569
I wish more games had this

[Anonymous No.3159595]

>>3157961
The sense of speed and the fantastically well-designed bestiary.

[Anonymous No.3159732]

>challenging yet accessible for everyone thanks to the difficulty settings well integrated with the game design
>tight controls and speed
>good levels, quite a few rewards and nasty surprises to find
>story is simple enough that it doesn't take any time away from the game, but still motivating enough for the player
>environments and creatures that, while completely unrealistic by today's standards, still maintain their coherence and therefore look good
>great music
>violent as befits its theme, but no edgemastery or claims to coolness is to be found
>bredy gud multiplayer

[Anonymous No.3159752]

>>3157961
Everything from map, to music, to HUD, to custom weapons, to custom fucking everything, is packaged into a "wad", which is a godsend to distribute and share over the internet. It also feels like a really tightly crafted piece of work.

Fuck Half-Life for making assets all separate making it a nightmare to deal with. As a creator, you have to instruct people on how to install your content and its required content (skyboxes, sounds, textures), making it an even bigger nightmare to uninstall them. It's also messy to download on the fly when you connect to a server running custom stuff. It wasn't until the 2013 Steampipe update where Goldsource engine implemented a scratch box temp directory for downloaded content.

I also like the engine for being so primitive, it can be ported to toasters like printers. I played a port on my DS lite back then and for the first time I actually appreciated the fact this is a first person shooter that didn't require vertical aiming.

God bless Doom.

[Anonymous No.3159827]

If we're talking the original games (otherwise the modding would be the clear answer) I'd say the balance. All the weapons are balanced against each other and with the monsters who are also very well balanced with each other and the levels they're in.

[Anonymous No.3160437]

>>3157961
Level design that promotes exploring for items.

[Anonymous No.3160447]

The movie.

[Anonymous No.3160882]

>>3157961
The aesthetics, sound, atmosphere and feel.

Is there any other game that features the same sort of visuals and feel as Doom does?

Also the gameplay and level design is gold, let me tell you, I'm spoiled rotten by modern ports and flashy mods, but the core game is still as fun to this day, just keyboard + mouse turning, or a gamepad, the original episodes never lose their edge.

[NESfag No.3160951]

Enemy AI is excellent. You can build many different type of architecture and enemies will always react well.

Try doing some of that in Duke3D and enemies will fuck around, not attack the player like you want, etc

Doom's enemies are also able to track and find the player exceptionally well. They just seem to be able to read their environments perfectly.

[Anonymous No.3161073]

>>3157961
The story.
I'm not kidding. I remember being floored as a kid that the player was on Mars' moons fighting interdemensional monsters.

That heart pumping knowledge that your the last survivor slaughtering your way behind the vanguard of the demon horde on the way to invade earth...thinking you won...MY BUNNY!

[Anonymous No.3161075]

>>3159569
I loved that...I actually started doing that raised eyebrow thing when looking left to right and do it to this day.

[Anonymous No.3161115]

The shotgun.

[Anonymous No.3161118]

What's with all the doom threads?

[Anonymous No.3163029]

>>3161118
It's a good game

[Anonymous No.3165865]

Why did ZeniMax take a pretty much perfect game like DOOM and make it modern shooter simulator 2016?

[Anonymous No.3166151]

>>3165865
>why is this modern game published by an industry giant like a modern game?
Did you really think they were gonna make it like the original games? Doom 3 wasn't like them either and nobody should have expected it to be.

Be glad that the initial Cowwadoodie build was scrapped, it could have been a million times worse.

To me, it looks like the singleplayer could be better than Doom 3, and that's as high hopes and expectations I'll have for neo-iD, that "it could be alright", but I'll be honest and say that there's still room for them to fuck it up, let's see what happens (don't buy it on launch or pre-order it).

[Anonymous No.3166680]

>>3166151
Bethesda being anywhere near a beloved classic like DOOM worries me a shit ton considering it's okay when Bethesda does it. I wish id didn't blow off Croteam, I'd rather have Doomius Sam than ZeniMax jewery.

[Anonymous No.3166752]

>>3166680
>Bethesda being anywhere near a beloved classic like DOOM worries me a shit ton
Yeah, I can see why. But remember, they're NOT the devs, many people are mistakenly believing this. On the flip side, they now have the same publisher, which is a different reason to worry altogether.

>considering it's okay when Bethesda does it
Really? Basically everyone I know shits on Bethesda for being sloppy with programming and bug fixing. Morrowind was only made flawlessly bug-free about 10 years after it's release, and that was a community effort.
I mean, I admire how they can smack together a decent sandbox with regular consistency (some better than others), but they sure do leave a lot of things to be desired in some departments.

>I'd rather have Doomius Sam than ZeniMax jewery.
I was never really a fan of gameplay where you fight hordes upon hordes of enemies as a regular feature of the map design, so that goes either way for me.

Quake 1 had a bit too little enemies, Serious Sam and Plutonia has too many to be fun for me, games like Doom and Half-Life occupy a more pleasant sweet spot for me.

I'm not 100% pleased with all the directions of Doom 4, but I think it's possible that it turns out as -OK- single player game, I hope that it's -at least- as good as Doom 3 or better (I always thought it was ok), but I think that it can also turn out worse than Doom for the 3DO. They seem to be listening to the community somewhat, so that shows some manner of good faith.
For instance, they actually did remove the piss yellow filter and make the monsters more colorful in response to criticism, and I'm glad for that, partially it's just a nice design decision, but it's better for gameplay reasons. One of the really great things about classic Doom is that every single monster is very readily identifiable from their distinct shape and color, even at long distances

[Anonymous No.3166790]

>>3166752
The demons look very very ugly, and not in the way they should be. They just look bland.

[Anonymous No.3166809]

>>3166790
Some of them I like, others I don't.

I hate the Cyberdemon, like, REALLY, those horns are gay, and the Revenant I think isn't that great, but the Caco, Mancubus and Baron Of Hell look pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3166836]

>>3166790
love how that was the only thing you were able to retort out of his entire post,

[Anonymous No.3166859]

>>3166809
The Mancubus just doesn't look human enough

[Anonymous No.3166940]

>>3166859
Did it ever?
I mean, discounting the disgusting mass of fat and surgically implanted fireball cannons, what do we have here:

>face looks less than human, very sunken in glowing green eyes and big tusks
>six nipples
>odd elephant feet
>stripe pattern on skin

[Anonymous No.3167287]

>>3166940
not stripes, fat bulges

[Anonymous No.3167313]

>>3167287
They're black stripes, you retard.

[Anonymous No.3167316]

>>3167287
Actually, both.

[Anonymous No.3167320]

>>3166940
Mancubus doesn't have six nipples, just two and a bellybutton. Also those aren't stripes.

[Anonymous No.3167324]

>>3167320
See >>3167313
>>3167316

[Anonymous No.3167695]

>>3167313
>>3167316
I honestly believe the sculptor misinterpreted the shadow of the fat on the sprite model, for stripes.

[Anonymous No.3167719]

>>3167695
yeah these guys and that sculptor were seeing something else.

[Anonymous No.3167720]

>>3166940
Still more human than a pile of metal with a fupa and a generic cyclops alien face.

[Anonymous No.3167989]

Since there isn't a /doom/ thread going atm (for why?)

I need a good weapons mod for Colorful Hell. Something not OP like RO but along the lines of BD weapons load out. Trailblazer is a bit too OP

Ideas?

[Anonymous No.3168061]

Doom is still so much fun because it's so chaotic. The enemies are mainly against you, but friendly fire between them causes them to go apeshit and attack each other. It's really fun to have so much chaos going on.

[Anonymous No.3168172]

>>3167989
I thought Combined Arms made for a good pairing, but I thought Trailblazer was too... YMMV

[Anonymous No.3168501]

>>3167719
>>3167695
That's the original latex/steel model by Greg Punchatz (after Adrian's design) that the Mancubus sprite is made from, it's literally as canon as it gets.

[Anonymous No.3168503]

>>3168061
This is a very good point friendo, the infighting is an aspect of gameplay that you don't see copied in other games, you'd think it's just a small thing, but it's actually very important.

[Anonymous No.3168516]

>>3168503
The sad thing is if a modern FPS had monster infighting as a game mechanic, most people would think they were copying Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.3169132]

the soundtrack, the turbo rollerskaters, big fucking gun, super shotty, chaos, and so on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
what's there NOT to like?
delusional modern csgo fags

[Anonymous No.3170085]

>>3168516
I don't remember Minecraft having infighting, did they add that later?

Seems like something Notch would add though, I recall he had an extremely high opinion of Doom, that's probably where it's from.

[Anonymous No.3170152]

Recently I have been playing Chocolate Doom on my netbook and honestly it's surprisingly fun for a 23-year old game.

The gritty sound of cocking the super shotgun. The sound of revenants bones crumbling. That feel of taking down 5 enemies at once with the super shotgun. Open level design filled with with traps and secrets.

Absolutely phenomenal.