Best mario game or no?

[Anonymous No.3144089]

mario world was best mario game
>pic related

[Anonymous No.3144116]

Yes.

Now here comes the closed-minded nostalgic Mario 3 fanboys to crash the party.

You know, the ones who somehow think the entire stage design of Super Mario World is one flat piece of ground you can fly over with a cape. (Sighs)

And because they can't understand how SMW is a superior game, they try to "rationalize" why others would like SMW more than SMB 3.
Even worse, they think everyone who does, is either under-aged or played SMW, first.

Super Mario World has tighter gameplay, better graphics, awesome music, and perfect replay value.
Does Super Mario 3 have more variety? Yeah, but so what. Super Mario World masters what it does, while SMB 3 is a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none.

I loved SMB 3 back in the day, but it has become the most overrated retro game ever.

[Anonymous No.3144119]

nice samefagging go back to /v/

[Anonymous No.3144123]

>>3144119
>nice samefagging
Look at the poster count in the corner, idiot.

[Anonymous No.3144124]

>>3144119
There are three posters in this thread. Four now. If you look at the bottom-right of any thread, you'll see a series of four numbers. The third number is posters.

So fuck off and die.

[Anonymous No.3144131]

Super Mario 64 is the best Mario game, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3144139]

>>3144131
I like it a lot, but the camera can piss me off at times. I'm playing the DS port so maybe its better on the 64.

[Anonymous No.3144142]

>>3144139
>I like it a lot, but the camera can piss me off at times. I'm playing the DS port so maybe its better on the 64.
It's not. The camera in the N64 version is just as fucked.

[Anonymous No.3144165]

Shit thread.

[Anonymous No.3144172]

>>3144165
>Shit thread.
And you brought SO much to the table.

[Anonymous No.3144180]

best mario game is sonic cd

[Anonymous No.3144193]

>>3144089
No, because I'm stuck on the 4th Super Secret Star World level. The ice one where the koopas kick shells at you
that part is easy but then these faggot fish start leaping and there isn't a pattern. Then I have to make a precision jump on a block as a giant bullet bill comes at me, and I can't do it

[Anonymous No.3144198]

>>3144193
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144202]

>>3144139
The DS version blows
>>3144142
it's really easy to learn how to use it properly.

[Anonymous No.3144206]

>>3144202
>it's really easy to learn how to use it properly.
Except it's not. The camera is flawed as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3144209]

>>3144198
no, getting good at video games is stupid. They should be beatable, it's a Nintendo game, it's for kids

[Anonymous No.3144210]

>>3144142
You guys are weird, out of all the complains I have for Mario 64, the camera isn't one of them.

[Anonymous No.3144212]

>>3144206
I've never had any trouble with it. Let me know which part you're struggling with and I'll make a video with the cameras I use.

[Anonymous No.3144229]

>>3144209
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144235]

>>3144116
>jack of all trades, master of none
Which is always better than a master of one.

[Anonymous No.3144242]

>>3144209
If it were easy, there would be no bragging rights in completing the game. Git gud, faggot.

[Anonymous No.3144248]

>>3144235
>Which is always better than a master of one.
no it's not. that's why we have surgeons.

[Anonymous No.3144279]

>>3144116
>Super Mario World masters what it does, while SMB 3 is a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none.
You have that switched around. SMB3 is a master of all trades and jack of none.

Hell, the simple fact that people argue whether World or 3 are better indicates how strong 3 is and how weak World is.

[Anonymous No.3144419]

>>3144279
>Hell, the simple fact that people argue whether World or 3 are better indicates how strong 3 is and how weak World is.
People having different opinions on whether 3 or World is better proves that World sucks? What the fuck kind of argument is this?

[P No.3144429]

This is my favorite Mario game.

[Anonymous No.3144547]

>>3144229
>>3144242
I already told you, its a kids game.
>bragging rights
>in video games
my face when i read what you said and my brain comprehendable it

[Anonymous No.3144572]

>>3144547
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144590]

>>3144547
>its a kids game
>WAH WAH WAH!
Git gud, faggot. This has already been explained to you.

[Anonymous No.3144591]

I played Mario World first, but my first time with 3 I loved it too.
They are both good and equal for me, they have their different styles but they are good introductory games for kids.
Their mechanics and other shit feel outdated as fuck by now though, but that's a talk for /v/ not for /vr/.

[Anonymous No.3144593]

>>3144547
How are you stuck at 4th secret world but not at second?

[Anonymous No.3144594]

>>3144429
Sprites are so big it's nigh-unplayable

[Anonymous No.3144596]

>>3144593
>How are you stuck at 4th secret world but not at second?
because he didn't git gud

[Anonymous No.3144601]

>>3144596
Tubular was my nightmare personally.
I took like two weeks to pass it the first time.

[Anonymous No.3144602]

>>3144601
>Tubular was my nightmare personally.
>I took like two weeks to pass it the first time.
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144606]

>>3144602
I got gud, I passed it and completed SMW. This was back when I was like 10.

[Anonymous No.3144608]

>>3144601
>I took like two weeks to pass a kiddy Nintendo game stage the first time.
Top kek

[Anonymous No.3144610]

>>3144606
Everyone here is a meanine. Just ignore them.

>>3144608
>>3144602
Leave him alone!

[Anonymous No.3144616]

>>3144593
Tubular is actually very short, I only died twice, once because i didn't catch the other P balloon in time and once on the two fire spitting flowers on top of each other.

but a one block wide jump, while avoiding fish coming up from my ass and a bullet bill from the side?

[Anonymous No.3144620]

>>3144616
>but a one block wide jump, while avoiding fish coming up from my ass and a bullet bill from the side?
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144621]

>>3144608
But I was a kiddie back then
Now i can pass it in first or second attempt usually.

[Anonymous No.3144629]

SMW is the best game ever made really.

I also love SMB3 (actually, that was my first Mario game), but World... man, World.

I think what I like about World the most are the controls.

It's perfection.

[Anonymous No.3144654]

mario galaxy is the best mario game

[Anonymous No.3144661]

>>3144654
12 year olds don't belong here

[Anonymous No.3144670]

>>3144661
I'm 21.

As of 2d games, I agree on World though.

[Anonymous No.3144697]

>>3144248
Surgeons? We're talking about games, tard. Also, SMW speedruns is the most boring shit ever.

[Anonymous No.3144862]

>>3144697
>SMW speedruns is the most boring shit ever
git gud

[Anonymous No.3144913]

>>3144654
I'm 31, first played SMB in 1989, and I agree.
It really is the top of the mountain.
Those two games are the finest and absolute best games in their class EVER.
When logical AI is finally a thing, that logical AI will also agree.

[Anonymous No.3144926]

yoshi island is better

[Anonymous No.3144931]

>>3144913
lol

[Anonymous No.3144935]

>>3144654
>mario galaxy is the best mario game
my sides.

[Anonymous No.3145458]

>>3144654
>mario galaxy is the best mario game
Not retro. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3145487]

>>3144654
>/vr/- Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3145519]

>>3144089
I loved how the world felt mysterious, there were so many secrets (keys in weird places for alternate doors, etc)
It always leaves you wondering.. could there be more? I couldn't get into the new side scrolling mario games because they dont have any of this, its just bland jump on a turtle's head and cross the finish line.

[Anonymous No.3145596]

>>3145519
There are different paths in NSMB for DS. Dunno about the ones for wii and wii u.

[Anonymous No.3145613]

>>3144419
World is a game for a system with superior hardware capabilities to the NES, so it should completely outclass any game on the NES. Yet people argue that SMB3 is better. It shows you how weak SMW is that it isn't widely agreed to be better than SMB3.

[Anonymous No.3145725]

>>3145613
>Yet people argue that SMB3 is better.
Nostalgia goggles.

[Anonymous No.3145909]

>>3145725
Sega and PCfag here. SMB3 felt like it pushed NES to the edge and was a great overall game. SMW was a great frist Mario game on the newer system. They have a lot of similarities, and they are both great games. I probably played both equally hour-wise, and I always felt that SMB3 was more imaginative of the two, and taking into account what they had to work with, it's the better game.

[Anonymous No.3145942]

>>3145725
I also died in that part for some reason.
It was fucking funny.

[Anonymous No.3145983]

>>3144429
My nigga

>>3144594
Yeq bur it's comfy I give you that

[Anonymous No.3145990]

World first introduces the mechanics I hate about later Mario games. I don't want to explore. I don't want to look for hidden shit. They're still tolerable because the game wasn't build on them like in Yoshi Island or Mario 64, but that was the first nail in the coffin to me. Suddenly it wasn't about pure simple platforming anymore.

Also it has my least favorite physics out of retro Marios, they just feel weird coming from 1 and 3.

>>3144116
Yeah it's like different people like different things, how do they dare. People call you underage because you sound like one.

[Anonymous No.3146024]

>>3144131
I agree, and I grew up playing the NES games mainly. The open world is brilliant, graphics still hold up excellently, tons of challenges and variety.. etc. I never had a problem with the camera. I think it was revolutionary.

[Anonymous No.3146038]

>>3144131
>Super Overrated 64

It barely feels like a Mario game at all.

[Anonymous No.3146348]

>>3145990
>Yeah it's like different people like different things, how do they dare. People call you underage because you sound like one.
git gud

[Anonymous No.3146591]

>>3144620
This meme needs to stop. It's meaningless, it's barely even a sentence. It's something you say when you don't have actual advice, you just want to post again.
"get good" and its variants aren't helpful, they aren't even TRUE, and it's never applicable to what you're responding to. I don't know how it caught on. Did some guy on Reddit start saying it?

[Porgie No.3146595]

>>3146591
>"It's something you say when you don't have actual advice"
>"'get good' and its variants aren't helpful"
>"they aren't even TRUE"
>"it's never applicable to what you're responding to"
>Not every game requires new strategy to advance
>Some games you already "know" what to do, the problem is getting the hang of doing it "correctly"
>In denial this much
>Can't admit you suck at games
>Get over ourself
git gud

[Anonymous No.3146598]

>>3146591
>"It's something you say when you don't have actual advice"
>"'get good' and its variants aren't helpful"
>"they aren't even TRUE"
>"it's never applicable to what you're responding to"
>Not every game requires new strategy to advance
>Some games you already "know" what to do, the problem is getting the hang of doing it "correctly"
>In denial this much
>Can't admit you suck at games
>Get over yourself
git gud

[Anonymous No.3147675]

This is the best Mario game ever. The controls, the stage design, the variety, the music, the challenge... they're perfect. It is a perfect game.

[Anonymous No.3147715]

>>3147675
>This is the best Mario game ever.
It's not a Mario game. It's a Donkey Kong game.

[Anonymous No.3147784]

>>3144089
yes
but 3 is still my favorite

[Anonymous No.3147792]

>>3147675
That's not a Mario game, anon...

[Anonymous No.3148060]

Super Mario World 2

[Anonymous No.3148110]

>>3147675
I played this game every day from August 1994 until new years eve 1994, when I beat it

I then played through the game repeatedly over the next few years.

whenever a game has you "level up" I think of how GBDK taught you how to do everything, but you were always capable of it.

do two or three handstands, and you could beat each of the first three levels instantly. it was so fun to tear through the early levels

[Anonymous No.3148129]

>mfw my favorite is Sunshine

That or >>3147675

[Anonymous No.3148132]

>>3148129
>Sunshine
Not retro.
>Donkey Kong for the Game Boy
Not a Mario game.

[Anonymous No.3148141]

>>3148132
my bad dude, I forgot we are supposed to roleplay as people from the 90s and pretend everything post 2000 literally never happened

fuck off, you retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.3148153]

>>3148141
>my bad dude, I forgot we are supposed to roleplay as people from the 90s and pretend everything post 2000 literally never happened
"This board is for the discussion of classic, or 'retro' games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not."
>fuck off, you retarded faggot
"Flaming will not be tolerated."

[Anonymous No.3148157]

>>3148153
You are literally autistic senpai

[Anonymous No.3148158]

>>3148157
>You are literally autistic senpai
The words of a man with no argument.
Stay mad.

[Anonymous No.3148162]

Yes, partly because of the superior physics.

Still stupid that you can fly over half the levels.

[Anonymous No.3148353]

>>3147715
>>3147792
You play as Mario. How it isn't a Mario game?

[Anonymous No.3148417]

>>3148353
>You play as Mario. How it isn't a Mario game?
You don't play as Zelda in Legend of Zelda; you play as Link. But the games are still classified as Zelda games.

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Donkey_Kong_games

[Anonymous No.3148649]

>>3148162
>Still stupid that you can fly over half the levels.
you can always choose not to, my man. also consider that many of levels are significantly more difficult to fly through than they are to platform through, so you can find an even bigger challenge in mastering those stages with cape tech.

the cape gave you the most interesting movement tech in any mario game up until that point.

[Anonymous No.3148654]

>>3148417
you guys sure love being pedantic

[Anonymous No.3148660]

>>3148417
You wouldn't be incorrect if you called them "Link games" though.

[Anonymous No.3148727]

>>3148660
>You wouldn't be incorrect if you called them "Link games" though.
That would be incorrect. They're Zelda games, even though you play as Link.

Don't forget that you play as Mario (Jump-Man) in the original Donkey Kong game, as well.

[Anonymous No.3148729]

>>3148727
>That would be incorrect. They're Zelda games, even though you play as Link.
Yeah, I guess they're not adventure games either, because they're called Zelda games.

[Anonymous No.3148732]

>>3148729
>Yeah, I guess they're not adventure games either, because they're called Zelda games.
Wrong. Legend of Zelda is classified as an action-adventure series.

[Anonymous No.3148735]

>>3148732
>Being this oblivious to the point being made.

[Anonymous No.3148737]

>>3148735
>Being this oblivious to the point being made.
There was no intelligent point being made. The poster was confusing the title of a game with a genre.

[Anonymous No.3148748]

>>3148729
>Yeah, I guess they're not adventure games either, because they're called Zelda games.
Correction. Zelda is both a Zelda game, and an action-adventure game.

You lose, again.

[Anonymous No.3148753]

>>3144139
>>3144142
This was the problem with a lot of 64 platformers. Good games let down by that awful camera.

>>3144180
Don't you have some fan characters to recolor?

[Anonymous No.3148756]

>People actually having trouble with N64 cameras.
Stick to 2d, it's easier.

[Anonymous No.3148757]

>>3148756
>People actually having trouble with N64 cameras.
Well, duh. It's common knowledge the camera in some Nintendo 64 platformers, like Super Mario 64, are awful. SM64 has aged like milk.

[Anonymous No.3148762]

>>3148757
Common knowledge to fucking idiots who are too stupid to figure out how to use it properly, maybe. It's not the most intuitive camera in existence, but it works fine if you actually know how to use it.

Let me know which areas you're struggling with and I'll make a video with the proper cameras.

[Anonymous No.3148765]

>>3148762
>Someone having to make videos to show the proper camera techniques to use in a game, because the game's camera is this broken
The camera shouldn't be part of the game's challenge. The gameplay, enemies, and stage design should be.

[Anonymous No.3148768]

>>3148757
>aged like milk.

1/10 overused meme

[Anonymous No.3148769]

>>3148765
>The camera shouldn't be part of the game's challenge
It's not. It's extremely easy to use and I can prove it.

[Anonymous No.3148776]

>>3148769
>The camera is extremely easy to use and I can prove it
It's so easy to use, and never interferes with the gameplay, you shouldn't have to prove it. Everyone would already know, and it would be basic knowledge. Except it's not. Lots of gamers, who don't suffer from nostalgia faggotry, complain about Super Mario 64's camera.

We're not saying it's a bad game, because most of still really like Super Mario 64. We are merely saying the camera is not perfect, and at times a major pain in the butt. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.3148785]

>>3148776
Of course the camera isn't perfect. I never claimed it was perfect. I claimed that it's easy to use for people who aren't retarded. The only part in the entire game where the camera is actually an issue is inside the igloo in snowman's land. I'll give you that one.

>nostalgia faggotry
shut the fuck up, faggot. i play this game multiple times a week and i have more fun with it now than i did as a kid.

[Anonymous No.3148791]

>>3148785
>I play this game multiple times a week
You told on yourself, asshole. You have mastered all the ways to tinker with the camera. Where as someone casually playing the game, won't know all the camera 'tricks" to use. They'll be expecting the camera to function like in a typical 3D platformer with better programming, you dumb son of a bitch.

Camera in Super Mario 64 fucking sucks. Accept it, you massive faggot piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.3148802]

>>3148791
>You have mastered all the ways to tinker with the camera.
yeah, which took me about 20 minutes. there aren't very many ways to tinker with it, you just have to treat the camera like a character with collision. the game even demonstrates in the intro that the camera is operated by a 2nd character.

you're right, it's not as mindlessly simple as modern cameras, but people who genuinely have trouble using it after ~1 hour of play might actually have some kind of spacial awareness deficiency.

[Anonymous No.3148806]

>>3148802
>Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Not bothering to read any of that garbage you just typed. I'm sure it's more of the same.

Stay mad because your game's camera sucks, and you can't convince others with an active brain that it does not.

I'm not wasting anymore of my time on your retarded ass, so reply with whatever you want. I'll never read it. :')

[Anonymous No.3148808]

sure is /v/ here

[Anonymous No.3148841]

Does anyone else feel the same way I do about World? Its graphics make me want to claw my eyes out. The blues are purplish, the reds are magentaish, the yellows are all orange, Bowser and all the koopaling sprites are hideous as sin.

The level design is god tier, the music is amazing, and the controls are spot-on, but the graphics induce vomiting.

[Anonymous No.3148842]

>>3148841
Are you playing on Wii VC by any chance? If not, it might be an issue with your TV.

[Anonymous No.3148870]

>>3148842
Um, no. Are you blind? SMW's sprites have always been disgusting.

[Anonymous No.3148995]

>>3148870
hold up

[Anonymous No.3151152]

raccoon>cape

[Anonymous No.3151165]

>>3151152
I prefer the cape mechanic to the "mash button" mechanic of raccoon suit.

[Anonymous No.3151225]

>>3148153
Autism Speaks

[Anonymous No.3151309]

>>3151225
>Autism Speaks
The words of a man with no argument.
Stay mad.

[Anonymous No.3151315]

Didn't read the thread, I'm sure it's been said already. But while the game is incredible, you can fly over almost all of the levels.

[Anonymous No.3151348]

>>3151315
>you can fly over almost all of the levels.
You can also purposely slam your fingers in a car door, but why would you want to.

[Anonymous No.3152031]

>>3151348
This is such a BS argument. "Just don't use the cape!" "It's optional!"

Look, if the cape were rare, or even just a little uncommon, this would be fine. So what if it's game-breaking? Just avoid it.

But the game throws cape feathers at you like it's going out of style! Even IF you choose to not hit the Green Switch, feathers are retarded easy to get in almost every level. That's what makes the cape being overpowered such an egregious sin.

[Anonymous No.3152050]

>>3152031
>But the game throws cape feathers at you like it's going out of style! Even IF you choose to not hit the Green Switch, feathers are retarded easy to get in almost every level.
So? You still don't have to use capes to fly over the stages. Even when you get a feather, and become cape Mario, just don't fly over the stage.

[Anonymous No.3152075]

>>3148806
>WAHH IM TRIGGERED BECAUSE I"M SHIT AT VIDEO GAMES

Yet another dumb piece of shit parasitic /v/ transplant. We have to start banning people.

[Anonymous No.3152806]

>>3144202
Why does the DS version blow?

[Anonymous No.3153120]

>>3144089
Super Mario 3d land

[Anonymous No.3155802]

>>3144116
>>3144089
Why can't we just say both 3 and world are equally awesome?

[Anonymous No.3156459]

>>3144089
as one of the few games i know of that is broken enough that someone can place certain items and spin jump in certain areas to code flappy bird, yes.