N64 sticks

[Anonymous No.3137897]

What's your opinion of the "Gamecube-style" N64 replacement sticks? I got one from Video Game Museum and I like it quite a bit, although there's another version with a rubberized nub. I've heard that the rubberized version has sensitivity / precision problems and is only really good for moving in 8 directions, which is a shame because the rubber nub sounds very nice.

Personally I really like the one I have and I think I'll install more in my other N64 controllers. I did a side-by-side comparison playing Star Fox and I did just as well with the GC-style stick as a replacement "classic" style one. The classic style stick might have an ever so tiny edge in terms of directional precision but it's really not noticeable in gameplay, whereas the difference in comfort and ease of use is very noticeable.

[Anonymous No.3137913]

n64 sticks?

[Anonymous No.3137915]

>>3137897
curious about this too. i can get one of those sticks for 10$ on amazon. nearly all of my original n64 sticks are loose and worn now..

[Anonymous No.3137925]

ive heard the hori ones are great

[Anonymous No.3137926]

>>3137897
Obligatory german guy post

[Anonymous No.3137927]

>>3137897
Do they have USB ones as well?

[Anonymous No.3137947]

>>3137927
It's just a replacement part for a real N64 controller, not the full controller. I would recommend just using a USB adapter with a real controller and not a clone, because the N64 controller clones are pretty bad quality.

For USB adapters, Mayflash makes one but I'd recommend the one made by Raphnet since it's the only one I know of that supports the rumble pak (in Project 64).

[Anonymous No.3137973]

any $10 replacement stick is garbage, "gamecube" style or not.

either get a controller with an OEM joystick that isn't worn down yet, a hori mini pad, or a raphnet gamecube to n64 adapter.

[Anonymous No.3137976]

>>3137897
They have a huge dead zone. Just find an original N64 controller that isn't too worn out or buy one of the Hori ones off Ebay or something.

[Anonymous No.3137978]

There do exist original N64 controllers that aren't worn. You just have to find one. The Gamecube replacement sticks are pretty much memes.

[Anonymous No.3137980]

>>3137976
these teflon/steel replacement sticks are looking promising too, but it might be a while before they're available to the public.

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/topic/7463997/1/#new

[Anonymous No.3137983]

>>3137973
these teflon/steel replacement sticks are looking promising too, but it might be a while before they're available to the public.

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/topic/7463997/1/#new

[Anonymous No.3137984]

what about these?
NOS?

[Anonymous No.3137989]

>>3137984
there are no replacement sticks available that are worth a damn. they all have fucked up mapping and are horrible to play video games with.

[Anonymous No.3137991]

>>3137897
relevant infographic.

[Anonymous No.3137992]

>>3137989
What causes the bad mapping? Is it the sensor in the replacment part? Can I just buy one of these stick assemblies and remove the stick only and put in my OEM assembly?

[Anonymous No.3137994]

>>3137991
How do I get the steel one? Is it hard to put it in yourself?

[Anonymous No.3137996]

>>3137983
I've been on the waiting list for nearly a month. I'm psyched to get my hands on one.

[Anonymous No.3138004]

>>3137983
Those look like they'll be a great option for people who want something very close to the original feel, although personally I always felt that the N64 stick felt shitty mechanically. The GC-style sticks aren't perfect but neither is the original version, and I think most people would be happy with it as a replacement.

[Anonymous No.3138026]

>>3137991
This looks like an advertisement

[Anonymous No.3138037]

>>3137991
These don't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.3138097]

>>3137989
By my estimation only the most discerning of players will be able to tell the difference between a decent replacement stick and a NOS original.

My best advice to anyone looking into a replacement is to get familiar with the seller before you buy one and see what other people on forums have to say about replacement sticks that they've bought from that seller, if you can.

[Anonymous No.3138113]

>>3137991
I don't understand what "feel" is supposed to be graded by. How similar to the original it feels? How nice it feels? I would say in terms of feel the GC style is superior to most of the other options. The durability looks about right on all of them, though. I've used aftermarket replacement optical sticks and they did seem to wear down faster than the original stock one, whereas the GC style one has been "set it and forget it."

[Anonymous No.3138119]

I have a hori pad, the replacement in OP's image, a very lightly used stock, and the two from my childhood.

I use the replacement the most, but there are a few games where the hori pad is S+ tier.

>>3137983

This looks amazing wtf

[Anonymous No.3138205]

They advertise as "gamecube style" but they don't really look or feel anything like gc joysticks. They're made of hard plastic with those ridges like the stock joystick had and they're also much narrower than the gc joystick.

They're very similar to the stock joystick but they can be way too sensitive because the controller chip they use in them might have shitty firmware that skips steps

[Anonymous No.3138214]

>>3137991
These graphs... Are kind of nonsensical. What the fuck is the frame of reference for these?

Why would metal sticks somehow just be better automatically?

[Anonymous No.3138658]

Just installed one of these a few days ago, while importing a Hori pad at the same time. Gotta say I preference goes replacement > Hori > original.

Idk, maybe it's been too long since I've touched a fresh Nintendo stick.

[Anonymous No.3138665]

>>3137897
>What's your opinion of the "Gamecube-style" N64 replacement sticks? I got one from Video Game Museum
>I got one from Video Game Museum
>Video Game Museum
get any orders yet?

[Anonymous No.3138691]

>>3137994
you can't get it yet, there are only prototypes in existence. it will be available online eventually though.

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/topic/7463997/1/#new

[Anonymous No.3138708]

>>3137897
...so the piece with the gear teeth is still plastic? yeah, fuck that

[Anonymous No.3138817]

>>3137926
>awaiting orders mach alles

[Anonymous No.3138827]

>>3138214
>Why would metal sticks somehow just be better automatically?
They wouldn't be. They just happen to be here I guess.>>3138037
>These don't make any sense.
Yeah it does. Obviously it's some software that prompts you to wiggle the stick in circles (like a calibration routine) that draws a line from the centre to the read co-ordinate, to illustrate the mapping.

[Anonymous No.3138836]

>>3138827
>>3138037
>>3137991
>>3138026
>>3138113
Marketing bullshit at its finest.
Not all those sticks have the same gate. Those graphs are 101% bullshit. Anyone who’s not horribly ignorant can see that.
>>3137983
I had hope till I saw it was just some hipster bullshit.
What we need:
A direct replacement stick module. Possibly just transfer over the stick PCB and maybe reuse the housing. The stick, bowl, and arms need new parts at the least.

What we don’t need:
Hipster garbage sticks that only replace part of the stick module.
>>3137926
German guy is the past option currently. Sticks are exactly the same as Hori in terms of how they work. Same problem the Hori sticks have they have. ie Perfect Dark aiming.

[Anonymous No.3138870]

>>3137897

tl;dr they're completely useless

Just this week I've been messing around with N64 emulation again. I have a few okay stock controllers, a few loose stock controllers, and a few I've replaced with these GC-style parts like in the OP.

The biggest problem with the GC sticks I have is their range, it's smaller than the original range, making them effectively useless. I'll explain.

In Linux jstest a controller is supposed to centre an axis on 0, and move in a range -32767 to +32768. The original controllers reach about 31000, close enough to max. These GC replacements I have only reach about 24000.

This is enough that moving the aim reticle in GoldenEye doesn't even reach the edge enough to move the screen, you can't look up or down or move sideways while aiming. Unplayable.

These GC sticks also have a massive deadzone in the middle, so you jump from 0 to about 2000 movement, whereas the stock controllers allow much more gradual low movement with a deadzone of 100 or so.

I messed around with several controllers and emulators, but I eventually just gave up and am teaching my hands to play GoldenEye with a PS3 controller.

[Anonymous No.3138872]

Has anyone tried the replacement gears from Kitsch-Bent? Pic related.

[Anonymous No.3138890]

>>3138836
>Not all those sticks have the same gate.
I dunno. It's illustrative of something. I mean that one on the far right (that looks like a Maltese cross) looks like a pile of shit.

Maybe the graphs are... 35% bullshit and 66% food for thought.

[Anonymous No.3138898]

>>3137897
Does anyone knows if this is worth buying? I have a broken n64 joystick with the analog broken,
Does this version of the analog feels right for playing smash 64 ?

[Anonymous No.3138903]

>>3138898
Read the thread. Overwhelming no.

[Anonymous No.3139027]

>>3137897
My experience with "Gamecube-style" replacement sticks:
It's good for games where you only need to go either very slow (ex: Mario 64, walking) or very fast (just running straight)
For precission on the middle-ground, they're very bad. Try playing Duke Nukem 64 or any other FPS with it. It's awful.
Personally, I changed my two controllers to this replacement before noticing this. Now I'm considering reverting one of them to their original analogue, even if it's not in very good conditions, just for FPS games.

Also, there's Gamecube-to-N64 adapters. You may want to try them. I got one (can't remember the website I got it from right now) but it has about the same precision problems that the replacement sticks.

[Anonymous No.3139030]

So if you want to emulate, emulation is shit, and if you want to play on your console, the controllers die out fast and can't be easily replaced. N64 is fucked either way.
Thanks god my favourite games can be played with any controller comfortably.

[Anonymous No.3139069]

>>3139030
I find them pretty easy to find in 8-9/10 condition on ebay, usually for less than $40. With heavy use, a joystick in good condition will last you over a year easily, even longer if you don't play for hours every day. To prolong them even further you can lubricate the bowl with white lithium grease; this will prevent the bowl from grinding on the stick as much. Avoiding using it for spinning (bowser throws, mario party) will also help. For spinning you should swap out your good controller with a controller that's already worn down, or an easily spinnable pad like a hori. Even a replacement stick is fine for spinning, because it's just spinning lol.

The raphnet gamecube to n64 adapter is also a very good option, and is mapped much more accurately than any replacement joystick. You can pick one of those up for like $40.

[Anonymous No.3139103]

>>3139030
n64 fucks your mother when you go to sleep,

[Anonymous No.3139120]

>>3138870
That sounds more like the rubberized ones than the plastic one I have. I've not had any problems playing Goldeneye or Perfect Dark with mine.

[Anonymous No.3139121]

>>3139030
>emulation is shit
I love this meme

[Anonymous No.3139131]

I liked the N64 controller, but I hated the stick because it would get loose quickly even you take care and didn't play games like Mario Party.

So, when I was a kid I actually "modded" the N64 stick and replaced it with a PSOne controller's stick. It didn't require any soldering, everything was mechanical, but I had to use tons of super-bond glue. It worked surprisingly well for a kid's work, after that the stick worked fine for five years until I sold my N64.