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For the love of ALL THINGS RETRO, can this board NEVER adopt talking about anything 6th gen being retro? If you think the /v/ invasion is bad now, it'll only attract the absolute apocalyptic doomsday of millennial shitters, one of which you have never seen and will hope to NEVER see.

I can already tell from casually checking /v/ that many there regard the ps2 as the greatest console of all time and that a majority of their is spent emulating gamecube and ps2 games. The discussion here is alreay bad enough with talk of emulation overtaking and it being hard to even have a thread about atari stay up to to 6 replies without dying. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD /VR/ DO NOT LET 6TH GEN BECOME RETRO!!!!

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>> No.3122537

>>3122518
you can't stop it.
PS2
WILL
BE
RETRO
EVENTUALLY.

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>>3122518
/v/ and why they think 6th gen is retro

>> No.3122541

Well, you tried, but it's too obvious. False flagging won't change anything.

>> No.3122545

>>3122518
Muh halo bogeyman...

>> No.3122552

PS2 will never be retro. Not even in 250 years.

>> No.3122560

>>3122538
XBox live?

I know 6th genners are retarded but cmon.

6th gen is the start of the online, DLC, and cancer modern games. ie shooters and 2deep4u RPGs.

>> No.3122567

>>3122560
THANK YOU!! Now do your part along with the older folks of /vr/ and KEEP /VR/ RETRO!! No 6th gen PLEASE!!! And preferrably ONLY CRT

Emulation is already bad enough because you can tell by the way these people type and how they regard classic games, they were never alive to experience such things. I consider it a casual form of shitting on history like this anon's pic points out >>3122521

>> No.3122568

>>3122518

Autism: the post.

>> No.3122571

>>3122560

DLC is a product of the 7th gen.

>> No.3122575
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>>3122518
>ps2 greatest console of all time

Whenever someone says this bullshit, I KNOW for a fact they were a kid when the ps2 came out and it was their 1st console.

what the pic is supposed to demonstrate is that the ps2 is full of fucking shovelware and sequels worse than their originals. bulk does not suddenly equal quality, neo-/v/. mgs 1and metal gear 2 are better than mgs 3 and mgs 2.

So you're literally implying the ps2 is better than the colecovision, atari 2600, snes, genesis, and ps1? fucking CLASSIC consoles with TIMELESS games?

most ps2 games are outdated, clunky, and ugly now. super mario world, zaxxon, and beamrider feel like sliding on a glove.
no you're wearing fucking nostalgia blinders.

>> No.3122578

>>3122571
Again, child. See XBox live. Multiple games had DLC.
Halo 2 one the biggest games of the generation had DLC.
PS2 had DLC example: FF11
DC had DLC example: Samba de Amigo

>> No.3122579

>>3122537
>died officially just this year
>implying it should be retro

>> No.3122583

>>3122575
>So you're literally implying the ps2 is better than the colecovision, atari 2600, snes, genesis, and ps1? fucking CLASSIC consoles with TIMELESS games?

you also have to factor in the turbografx 16, colecovision, intellivision, nes, saturn, dreamcast, and a whole SLEW of other consoles. It's impossible for the ps2 to be better than all of those.

>> No.3122587

>>3122579
the only thing that died was FF11's PS2 support. PS2s were killed off in January 2013, when Sony announced they were discontinuing manufacture.

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>>3122575
>no you're wearing fucking nostalgia blinders.
says the guy who thinks Super Mario World is good

>> No.3122594

>>3122537
>>3122545
>>3122568
>>3122571
SEE??? They're ALREADY fucking here invading like PESTS!! Look at their language. You can tell they're /v/ kiddies.

>muh halo boogeyman
>autism as an insult
>anticipating ps2 to be talked about

they are VERMIN and mods need to know how to pick them out and EXPUNGE them from any discussion on this board.

>> No.3122596

>>3122518
I agree with this only to avoid sonyggers

>> No.3122598

>>3122591
>shitposting in filename

ANOTHER one of the little /v/ermin.

Shitposting is a new age term. It's called TROLLING.

>> No.3122602

>>3122594
it's not a question of taste or HURR DURR FUCKING KIDDIES XD. It's a question of age, and unfortunately for you, 2020 will be the PS2's 20th anniversary of release, and 20 years is a pretty good number for anything to become retro.

>> No.3122608

>>3122518
>>3122521
Atarifags are such whiny manchildren.

Your favorite company was shit, deal with it.

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>>3122598
your autism is flaring up

>> No.3122619

>>3122518
OP, only actual idiots think that the PS2 will never be retro, given the subjectivity of the term.

That said the rules at present are clear: only consoles released in 1999 or before, with the exception of the Sega Dreamcast, are to be topics of discussion.

The rules may one day change, probably when Gen 9 rolls in, but until that time comes, PS2 is against the rules.

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>>3122602
No it's not about taste, you dunce. It is in fact about sectioning off millennials that grew up with 6th gen and hail it as the pinnacle of video games. And you can easily tell who these types of posters are by their wording. No 40 year old man would use autism as an insult or save pictures of cartoon girls to use as reaction images.

>> No.3122625

>>3122621
>hurr retro is what I define it as instead of the dictionary
cry me a river ataribabby

>> No.3122629

>"Rise-chan is cute. CUTE!"
>"What do you think Chie smells like after a work out?"
>"I NEVER FELT LIKE"
You open the board to 6th gen, Personafags will shit it up. We didn't fight it on /v/, we still have a chance to save /vr/.

>> No.3122634

>>3122629
contain the personafaggots in /vg/.
Problem solved.

>> No.3122640

What the fuck were you thinking when you made this post OP? You just attracted even more of /v/ with your BAWWWWWing. Nice going dickhead. Now my "discuss the old Activision thread" is going to die because of you.

>> No.3122645

>don't allow gen6
>shitposters shit up every thread on /vr/ because they can't get their way

>allow gen6
>shitposters flood the board with shit threads

It's a lose-lose situation 2bh.

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>>3122518
I think it's safe to assume there are no 40 year-old men browsing 4chan. They would be on a dedicated forum like Atari Age or shmups.system11.org. This place is for teenagers and college kids to vent out shitposting and memes. after 32 or so, you grow out of 4chan.

>> No.3122649

>>3122621
>tfw late 20's
>played games from NES to PS4
>people don't want to discuss PS2 and treat it like some abomination

Listen, the rules state Dreamcast is the most recent console. I personally think adding dreamcast unleashed the floodgates, and is causing all this bullshit.

Modern consoles are not bad. The PS2 was a fucking great console, and I would argue one of the best.

However, the board rules are pretty fucking clear. If you want to discuss anything not defined by the boards rules, go somewhere else.

>> No.3122653

>>3122640
what's there to discuss? it's just gonna be ACTIVISION RUINED PITFALL: the thread.

>> No.3122654

>>3122647
>after 32 or so, you grow out of 4chan.
Tell that to Australia-kun.

>> No.3122657

>>3122647

You're here forever.


Australia-kun is like 50 and he shitposts on /vr/ regularly.

>> No.3122658

>>3122634
>CUHRAZYYYYYY
>Twilight Princess is the best Zelda game
>Endless Metal Gear threads because most of /v/'s first Metal Gear was 3
I think the only positive thing I can see from it is a small revival of The Sims 2 community here, and maybe a discussion of stealth games since the genre got the vast majority of its prolific games gen 6.

Even still, the bad outweigh the good, as much as I would love to see a Sims 2/Stealth community creep up again.

>> No.3122662

>>3122649
his post was reinstating the rules not hoping to change them. he doesn't want 6thgenners to get their way ever because he feels some vapid form of entitlement for "being there" or some shit.

>> No.3122667

>>3122649
I'm >>3122602
I'm not arguing that PS2 should be allowed right this second. However, people need to consider that in just a few years, the PS2 will be old enough to be considered vintage at least, if not retro outright and that rules can change over time. It's inevitable and it will happen. When that happens is up to the admins, not a bunch of crybabbies like OP.

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If PS2 ends up commonplace on this board, are people gonna start screaming at each other for emulating its games instead of buying the console too?

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Reminder this is what 6th gen babies consider a quality thread.

>> No.3122673

I usually just quote someone to get a quick reply, I usually delete it but sometimes it falls through the cracks.

Sorry you got so defensive over nothing.>>3122667

>> No.3122674

>>3122667
but why should it be allowed? We have Hiro now, not MOOT. an he's open to adding boards whimsically. so he should just make early-2000's /vr/. that would be the best solution and would cut back the posters on /v/ that only emulate early 2000's games and decry everything modern being shit. millennials (aka those born late 90's) are coming to the age where they are nostalgic for their first consoles when they were a kid and it's becoming a detriment to every /v/-related board.

>> No.3122676

>>3122653
Uh I don't know maybe the shit tons of games they made for the Atari 2600 as well as numerous other systems?

>> No.3122678

>>3122608
Your father even wasn't born in Atari times.

>> No.3122680

>>3122676
so Super Pitfall?

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Another quality /vr/ thread.

>> No.3122687

>>3122674
because the damn thing will be 20 years old in about 4 years and thus qualifies to be retro?

>> No.3122690

>>3122676
Atari has a fucking massive catalogue of games that are pretty much all a-class fun times. really golden. too bad /vr/ never bothers to discuss due to the hard-on for nintendo and resurgent liking for sega. I remember there was a thread that got over like 300 replies because some kid said he'd never played or heard of phantasy star until it was mentioned frequently in "top games of all time" lists and from his favorite youtubers, so he wanted to hear our thoughts.

>> No.3122695

>>3122682

Ok, what would you like to talk about?

>> No.3122698

I support PS2 and GameCube games being on /vr/ as soon as somebody can find me a PS2 or GameCube game from 1999 or earlier.

Anyone?

>> No.3122705

>>3122687
retro doesn't just equal years. retro is fucking pre-2000's. anything pre-2000's from vhs, betamax, cassettes, 80's fashion, 70's corvettes, atari, nintendo, etc. that is retro.

>> No.3122708

>>3122698
OoT Master Quest for GCN

>> No.3122710

>>3122690
>Atari has a fucking massive catalogue of games that are pretty much all a-class fun times. really golden.
Intellivision is even more cool
Atari games are the best to play with a friend.

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I believe it applies

>> No.3122713

>>3122708
Good call! Master Quest threads should definitely be allowed.

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>>3122695
The life of the aardvark.

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>>3122710
nice to see another atari-bro

>> No.3122718

>>3122705
>hurr retro is my arbitrary definition
try harder KIDDO

>> No.3122723

>>3122575
>mgs 1and metal gear 2 are better than mgs 3

That statements just false.

>> No.3122724

>>3122718
usually those constantly patronizing with terms like "kiddo" are the kids themselves. just saying.

>> No.3122727

>>3122716

Probably sucks

>> No.3122728

>>3122724
and those that pretend that they are the exclusive definers of words are the biggest dick suckers around. Just saying.

>> No.3122729

so hol up...youz be sayin that sonyggers are the cancer that will kill /vr/?

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>>3122591
>that forehead
japanimation is just getting worse by the year.

>> No.3122732

>>3122729
/vr/ is killing itself without the help of 6th gen threads. Makes you wonder what the whole McCarthyism about 6th gen is all about.

>> No.3122735

>>3122731
it's not even japanese anymore, since the nip studios are mostly now outsourcing to korean and chink studios

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>>3122729
PA knew the sonyggers ruined everything even in the PS1 era

>> No.3122740

>>3122732

As far as I can tell it's basically the fear that Kitties law will take place

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>>3122729
he means xbox and gamecube as well, you dunce. to think there are kids that believe the gamecube is the best nintendo console and perhaps console period just disgusts me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMaMuTUhLgc

>> No.3122749

>>3122746
Gamecube was better than the N64 at the very least.

>> No.3122752

>>3122740
kitties law has already taken place with regular people. We've got 12 year olds on youtube pretending to be gaymen experts for e-peen.

>> No.3122757

>>3122575
>People actually think Metacritic and Gamerankings scores are worth anything

You notice the majority of the games are niche Japanese titles. JRPGs and shmups in particular get lower marks from Western reviewers because they're not flavor of the month garbage they get their signed checks from. Also notice how a lot of these titles have retained their value over the years. Paid reviewer scores don't mean shit.

>> No.3122759

There are arguments for and against including PS2. The most successful games on the PS2 were in similar genres to the most successful games of today. You could make a strong argument that games today are bigger PS2-style games with more of an online focus. In contrast, most successful games on preceding consoles were in genres that are not so successful today. They were also usually in a colourful, cartoony style instead of the darker, more 'mature' style of games of all home consoles of PS2 onwards with the outside of Nintendo consoles. There are exceptions to this such as MGS1.

There are also arguments for including the PS2. Its age is one. Sixteen years is a long time ago. It was also the last generation where most games were in an SD resolution, albeit 480i instead of 240p. Game mechanics were still unrefined in the early part of the generation. Compare GTA III and Vice City to San Andreas. The latter has parkour and modern-style camera controls, while the former two have awkward camera controls and only support jumping.

The biggest argument for PS2 being retro is online functionality. Yes, the PS2 supported online but it wasn't the major draw of the console for most people. Many of its best-selling games had no online functionality whatsoever. You had to buy a separate add-on to even go online until the slim model.

In contrast, the XBOX was a much more modern console. It pushed online gaming in a big way. had a paid online service, and had a hard drive as standard. However, it sold 24 million in contrast to the PS2's 155 million. It cannot be regarded as the defining console of the sixth generation any more than the SEGA Master System can be regarded as the defining console of the third generation.

It was also the last time that couch multiplayer was popular. Online multiplayer, paywalls and dlc are defining features of the seventh generation, not the sixth, just as 3D is a defining feature of the fifth generation despite also being present in the fourth.

>> No.3122762

>>3122752

On here I mean.

>> No.3122764

>>3122749
Wii U is Gamecube 3.0

But well, how there were sold less GameCubes than N64s?

>> No.3122767

>>3122518
NO ONE ON /v/ FUCKING CARES ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING PS2 OR XBOX

HAVE YOU FUCKING BEEN TO /v/?

>> No.3122770

>>3122608
atari nearly killed gaming tbqh, and aside from a historical perspective there's not really much on there that's worth bothering with anyway. shit picks up with the NES.

>> No.3122771

>>3122518
>head over to /v/
>hmmm, ps2 worship eh

>NOT A SINGLE THREAD ABOUT THE PS2

>> No.3122778

>>3122762
go look at the amount of shitflinging in the CRT threads and tell me that isn't 12 year olds pretending to know about CRT TVs

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>>3122787
You forgot the Dreamcast, mate.

>> No.3122802

>>3122759
none of this defines retro. retro is pre-2000's. It doesn't matter if YOU think it's retro because you have nostalgia for it. It is not retro. If anything, it was the ps2, gamecube and xbox that ruined gaming by making it ultra-mainstream. That's why see so many people regard the ps2 as the best console of all time because odds are, they were born around the late 90's to regard it as such. The ps2 has absolutely nothing as fun and as responsive and twitchy to play as q*bert, galaxian, and choplifter.

The ps2, gamecube, and xbox began to supplementally shift focus to story and characters rather than gameplay. It started the modern movie game trend. Just look at MGS2 and MGS3 as well as Ace combat and how many cutscenes they have. Look at all the mediocre jrpg's that the ps2 has that took away gameplay and replaced it with monotonous gameplay and terrible story like FF10, persona series, etc.

>> No.3122804

>>3122778

If it's not some fear of Kitties law than what is it?

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>>3122770
>this being said on the old videogames board
Mark my words, there people will shit on the 4th gen soon

>> No.3122807

>>3122802
>it was the ps2, gamecube and xbox that ruined gaming by making it ultra-mainstream
you can thank the PSX for that actually

>> No.3122810

>>3122518

the /v/ermin are already here OP >>3122770. and the sad part is they outnumber the oldfags. time to move to atariage if you want to decently discuss Atari without your thread dying.

>> No.3122813

>>3122807
yes, which is why psx should've been removed from the equation as well. conversation is already steered way too close to nintendo, n64, ps1, and late 90's computer games.

>> No.3122814

>>3122787
CONSOLESTHAT

HAD WIRED CONTROLLERS
USED MEMORY CARDS
WERE CARTRIDGE AND DISC BASED

NOT RETRO

>> No.3122817

>>3122804
board quality potentially going down? increased traffic to /vr/, increasing post rates and potentially killing threads about other systems?
I personally think these fears are a bit unfounded though.
>>3122810
no one is going to kill your precious Atari thread
>>3122813
you're retarded

>> No.3122818

>>3122806
>>3122810
anon the atari 2600 is only worthwhile for nostalgia purposes. it's the pokemon of middle aged people.

>> No.3122820

>>3122813
>conversation is already steered way too close to nintendo, n64, ps1, and late 90's computer games.

Yeah, I wonder why no one discusses pong consoles and the maganvox odyssey.

Oh yeah, because everyone just wants to talk about snes and genesis.

>>3122818
hurrrrrrrr

>> No.3122821

>>3122770
>>3122818
You used fucking "tbqh"

That's the fucking shit like 16-22 year olds use from /v/ and /b/ and /pol/

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>>3122771
>>3122767
>implying /v/ doesn't think the ps2 i the greatest console ever made because they grew up with it

oh trust me. they are there.

>> No.3122832

>>3122817

I must be out of the loop on what's going on, due to not coming here often, bare with me.

>> No.3122839

>>3122820
to be brutally honest, there's not much to talk about the Odyssey. It's the first home video game console (a very basic one at that) and is historically important but other than that, there's not much going for it (since it's just diode logic, there's only built in "games") and the whole thing relies on physical objects to substitute for graphics.

>> No.3122840

>>3122839
so you're saying you prefer to talk about story and characters in your snes jrpg's and not idk GAMEPLAY???

>> No.3122843

>>3122770
Atari brought gaming to your living room with the 2600 and they had many great arcade games.

>> No.3122846

>>3122840
what gameplay? the gameplay for the Odyssey boils down to dice rolls and moving an square on the screen. You might as well take it to /tg/ for how much it's more of an electronic board game instead of a video game console.

>> No.3122848

>>3122843
THIS!!!

Breakout and Yars' Revenge are fucking CLASSIC. They feel like sliding on a glove.

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>tfw the best horror game isn't retro