I'LL SHOW YOU WHO'S THE BOSS OF THIS BLOOD-SOAKED DEMON PIT

[Anonymous No.3117479]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3111550

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1448/27/1448271860636.png
Doom download: https://yadi.sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Quake: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Duke: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://data.desustorage.org/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desustorage.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

COMMUNITY PROJECT
Make a Boom-compatible E1-themed Ultimate Doom map.
Status: https://desustorage.org/vr/post/3019509

[Anonymous No.3117481]

===NEWS===

[04-05] Anon mod release: Liebenberg Arms Bushland Pistol
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6s0f6m8757as1my/LiebenbergArmsBushlandPistol.wad

[04-04] Anon map release: wheresmyshotgun.wad (updated)
>>3115529
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpM1RKWlNTTVRyUDQ/view

[04-04] DTWID Lost Episodes (E1-E6) released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1130238

[04-02] Japanese Doom Community Project v1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1583715

[04-01] Anon map release: Pyramid Complex (nyan.bsp, for Quake 2)
>>3108059
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/nyan.zip

[04-01] John Carmack To Be Honoured With BAFTA Fellowship
http://www.bafta.org/press/press-releases/john-carmack-to-be-honoured-with-bafta-fellowship

[04-01] DooD (April Fool's mod)
https://youtu.be/tpeoS9TfRtI
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1582841

[03-31] Anon map release: WAD COLLECTED map03
>>3105343
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=lt02uz

[03-29] Nihility: Infinite Teeth
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/85591-

[03-28] Anon map release: rnfwip.wad
>>3096295
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpdXBxTVJZeUtCQ3c/view

[03-27] Anon map release: Cubed.wad
>>3094739
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpaTJXaWtJMzd5UFk/view

[03-26] Gun Godz 0.8
>>3092904
http://www.mediafire.com/download/68jk6od0sz16t0v/GunGodz_0.8.pk3

[03-26] Anon map release: bluebase.wad
>>3091128
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpSVZfcEQ3RUtObWs/view

[03-26] Guncaster update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=895331#p895331

[03-25] Anon map release: Durex Waste Disposal
>>3087796
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zl37cs00ew3eads/CLOSETV2.wad

[03-24] Anon map release: Homecoming.wad (two maps)
>>3087352
https://mega.nz/#!w4cV1agJ!w_d_zfvOoE6F9XKCln5bmoWWvJJjuFewfhc3R1xOBaY

[03-24] Mutiny Community Project, alpha 1
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1577910

===

To submit news, please reply to this post.

[Anonymous No.3117496]

1st

[Anonymous No.3117502]

FUCK YOU

___

(Note to mod/janitors, this is a reference to the OP's title)

[Anonymous No.3117525]

fucking cute

[Anonymous No.3117534]

>>3117525
That's pretty cool

[Anonymous No.3117535]

>>3117525
dat Engrish

[Anonymous No.3117545]

I'm halfway through TNT and it's fucking great so far. Not even a single bad map.
Is plutonia even half as good as this?

[Anonymous No.3117556]

Graf just merged the "floating point rewrite" branch. Means 65536 unit wide maps should be supported if I understand this correctly.

[Anonymous No.3117572]

>>3117556

Great! Can't wait to play those maps in multipblahahahah

[Anonymous No.3117574]

>>3117479

[DoctorAmazing !!DCngmDqLwuj No.3117576]

http://zettix.com/3d-filter/
Make it Doom

[Anonymous No.3117604]

What is this new meme? It's from gay porn isn't it? Why this particular porn is so popular? So many questions.

post your favourite mods btw

[Anonymous No.3117619]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3117623]

>>3117556
Could this mean... the rebirth of Cyberrunner!?

[Anonymous No.3117624]

>>3117619
MY BRAND

[Anonymous No.3117625]

>>3117604
>What is this new meme?

It's old. Probably like a decade. The Japanese found a particular gay porno really hilarious and have been mocking it since.

[Anonymous No.3117631]

>>3117619
Dem mountains are now valleys

[Anonymous No.3117637]

>tfw there are no better map packs better than scythe series, epic2 and eternal doom.
>tfw scythe only gets a pass becase of its amazing flow

[Anonymous No.3117641]

>>3117637
>Eternal Doom
You mean "Mash against walls to try to progress" Doom? I fucking love the levels, but jesus christ it gets so obtuse on purpose that I stopped playing it out of pure frustration.

[Anonymous No.3117642]

I just started Reelism and I'm pretty terrible at it so far. All I seem to get are a lot of hitscanners in large open areas and it's not that fun.

[Anonymous No.3117650]

>>3117637
Going Down was awesome what are you whining about

and so was Pirate Doom

[Anonymous No.3117651]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3117652]

>>3117637
Alien Vendetta
Valiant
Sunlust
Speed of Doom
Back to Saturn X
Vanguard
Requiem
Hell Revealed
Memento Mori I & II
Resurgence

Eternal Doom isn't even especially good, and Epic 2 is inconsistent at the best of times.

[Anonymous No.3117653]

>>3117637
UAC Ultra is super good. It's also short.
I like shorter mapsets more than megawads desu.

[Anonymous No.3117654]

>>3117604
ZDoom Wars I. The rest are weapon mods that rips assets from each other, I don't think that saying that all doom mods are absolute crap (except for the mentioned) is an exageration.

[Anonymous No.3117657]

>>3117650
You just named both of my two absolute favorite mapsets. Good job anon.

[Anonymous No.3117658]

>>3117624
LOOK
LOOK WITH YOUR SPECIAL EYES

[Anonymous No.3117659]

>>3117623
What specifically was the engine limitation that caused it to be discontinued anyway?

[Anonymous No.3117663]

Can somebody help me with ths ? I can't launch the hangmanv2.1.wad from the "Some Fucking Doom" archive

[Anonymous No.3117669]

>>3117652
Requiem and Memento Mori play like shit today

[Anonymous No.3117670]

>>3117663
Looks like you need Skulltag_Actors.pk3 (I think it's called, haven't played Zandronum in a looong time)

[Anonymous No.3117671]

>>3117659
map size, and once you get to a certain velocity the universe implodes, or something.
>>3117663
frequently given response #1: you probably need a newer engine build

[Anonymous No.3117672]

>>3117663
1. that's a dumb multiplayer mod, it's really not that good
2. you need skulltag_data.pk3 and skulltag_actors.pk3 loaded for it

[Anonymous No.3117674]

>>3117652
Nice, Back to Saturn is kinda good too, the problem is that all levels looks the same and tries too hard to have the same gameplay as vanilla doom, and that is not a plus.

The rest of the list looks like copies of each other.

[Anonymous No.3117675]

>>3117669
>Requiem plays like shit
gee I don't know anon, I have grown fond of it.

[Anonymous No.3117676]

>>3117674
>Sunlust
>Looking like a copy of anything else
Uh, sure.

[Anonymous No.3117679]

>>3117669
No they don't. I picked them specifically because they have stood the test of time over all the other shitty 90's wads.

[Anonymous No.3117681]

>>3117669
and what about eating meat on fridays? how come that's allowed now but wasn't back then? do the people who ate meat on fridays back then go to hell, or what? it's mad!

[Anonymous No.3117683]

>>3117671
>map size
That can also be faked with linked portals now.
> and once you get to a certain velocity the universe implodes, or something.
That.. seems like a greater problem. Perhaps some of the rewrites since december may have solved some of those issues.

[Anonymous No.3117686]

>>3117669
I finished Memento Mori 1 today and apart from some of the last levels I enjoyed the shit out of it

[Anonymous No.3117691]

>>3117641
What, some people loves puzzle-like mapsets, if that makes any sense. It is horrible as a coop map pack though.

[Anonymous No.3117695]

>>3117686
i love the idea that they play differently "today" than when they were made.

[Anonymous No.3117696]

>>3117642
some maps are easier than others
like astrolab or flesh palace

[Anonymous No.3117698]

i need ketchup mod update.(not working latest gzdoom)

[Anonymous No.3117702]

>>3117619
that looks pretty THICK, anon

[Anonymous No.3117707]

>>3117672
Loading Skulltag data dosen't work.
So much for that mod then.

[Anonymous No.3117712]

>>3117650
Pirate Doom plays like shit, I blame the weapons.

>>3117653
Will try desu, thanks.

>>3117676
Allow me to add this: it is pretty monochromatic too. A cacoward does not mean that a map pack is good, maybe better than the rest of the released ones in that specific year.

[Anonymous No.3117714]

>>3117683
>That can also be faked with linked portals now.

not really; we ran out of room on *both* axes, not just one
if I remember correctly my map took up a 20000x20000 box, possibly more, and it could be beaten in 43 seconds.

>>3117556

too bad a stable version of those changes won't hit zandronum for the next two or three years
also if cyberrunner ever gets rebooted, its parkour engine is getting rewritten. parkmore is basically unreadable, no thanks to ACC's bullshit restrictions

I still remember the 19 script variable limit, and what it did to the ledge grabbing code. I seriously never want to look at that shit again.

[Anonymous No.3117717]

i like real gun hardcore.
but difficulty (rgh much)pretty wad.

[Anonymous No.3117728]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3117731]

>>3117714
>
not really; we ran out of room on *both* axes, not just one
>if I remember correctly my map took up a 20000x20000 box, possibly more, and it could be beaten in 43 seconds.
Ever thought about shrinking the player to like 1/8 size? Since view height and texture scale is pretty much what determines percieved scale of the game world.

[Anonymous No.3117732]

>>3117728
Alternatively

[Anonymous No.3117738]

>>3117731
>Ever thought about shrinking the player to like 1/8 size? Since view height and texture scale is pretty much what determines percieved scale of the game world.
Great idea in theory, bad in execution, especially considering static values like viewbob, fov, and mouselook don't slow down to accommodate.

[Anonymous No.3117743]

>>3117659
I think Cyberrunner played faster than the engine could actually render the game.

[Anonymous No.3117756]

Been keeping my head down for the last couple of hours to work on this.

The whole system is now no longer based on CVARS & Menus, but is now randomly generated on a per-weapon basis. That means if I throw a weapon it retains its stats if I wanna pick it back up again. For simplicity's sake I've disabled Frame Scaling & Damage Formula modifications. I'll probably make specializations for them instead, as opposed to full exposure.

[Anonymous No.3117761]

WAD COLLECTED map03 zdoom 281 demos

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=kw35mj

a curious blend of cutting edge udmf features and mid nineties style theme soup texturing. interesting, like if zdoom had existed when the game first came out and everyone was making MY HOUSE IN DOOM maps. not the first time i played this map, but my first try was terrible and i didn't keep the file. you'd have got bored of watching me push on walls for several minutes straight, anyway.

i thought the shifting flesh and blood maze puzzle where you get the blue key was a good idea but ultimately annoying because you can't see anything and it's quite easy to get stuck in there. i don't mean actually stuck as in a map bug, just stuck as in the way out is really obfuscated and hard to find, and the automap isn't much help.

the chaos symbol room (with the baron, on the way to the blue key switch) is a bit flat, try adding some light into the corners. and the switch itself doesn't make a noise when pressed.

also it is a little unfortunate the level ends so abruptly when the boss monster is killed, i was not expecting this so had monsters still alive. really strange effect with the skybox too, giant monsters running around in the sky.

[Anonymous No.3117763]

>>3117712
For me the weapons in Pirate Doom are really distracting because they're so different from everything else and it just looks weird.

[Anonymous No.3117764]

>>3117738
There's no need to change mouse settings and FOV. Viewbob thing is true though.

[Anonymous No.3117767]

>>3117756
hang on, I'll pomf a higher quality version in a min cause its hard to see what happens properly.

[Anonymous No.3117769]

>>3117732
that one came out rather well

[Anonymous No.3117792]

Which Quake has the better scream you make when you're in lava: Quake 1 or Quake 2?

[Anonymous No.3117794]

>>3117792
1

>AGH AGH AGH AGH AGHAGHAGHAGHAGH HURRHGHGH

[Anonymous No.3117797]

>>3117707
Try this one.
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/skulltag_content2.1a.pk3

[Anonymous No.3117804]

Why do some people still dangle on to Skulltag, even though it's literally dead?

[Anonymous No.3117805]

>>3117545
It's different. TNT has great level architecture (I think everyone that has played it will remember the "wormhole" level) but combat is meh. Plutonia on the other hand has simpler and uglier maps, but combat is faster and more entertaining.

Both are great.

[Anonymous No.3117820]

>>3117804
if we're talking about hangman... it was made before skulltag 98d existed.

[Anonymous No.3117842]

>>3117576
uhh

[Anonymous No.3117850]

>>3117481
>[04-05] Anon mod release: Liebenberg Arms Bushland Pistol
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/6s0f6m8757as1my/LiebenbergArmsBushlandPistol.wad
IT'S NOT READY DAMMIT AAAAAH

[Anonymous No.3117853]

is zdoom any good for multiplayer lads?

[Anonymous No.3117856]

>>3117853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x2Vn2qhCA

[Anonymous No.3117858]

>>3117767
>>3117756
https://a.pomf.cat/iuffxx.webm

There we go. It's 9MB so its way outside the filesize limit, figured I'd upload it elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.3117869]

>>3117853
No.

[Anonymous No.3117872]

>>3117869
Even for LAN ?

[Anonymous No.3117883]

>>3117872
LAN will probably be fine

probably

[Anonymous No.3117885]

>>3117856
When will ZDoom get functioning multiplayer?
With how popular it is, you'd think it would have happened by now.

[Anonymous No.3117891]

>>3117872
it can work
>can
just follow the instructions, and save often

[Anonymous No.3117901]

>>3117797
Dosen't work either.

[Anonymous No.3117916]

>>3117545
>Not even a single bad map
I love TNT, but there's one or two maps that are rubbish, Metal and Habitat come to mind. The music is always great, and perfectly solidifies the atmosphere of the mapset.

Plutonia is also good, but in another way, the fighting is MUCH more intense, it's unplayable without mouse-turning (or freelook, if you're on a modern port), unless you're some sort of keyboard wizard.
The entire base idea with Plutonia was for people who thought all the original maps were too easy (kind of like Thy Flesh Consumed, but WAY longer, more monsters, and in some ways, actually more fair), challenge was the objective, and that they achieved.

TNT is harder than Doom 2 (also better), and Plutonia is harder than TNT.

[Anonymous No.3117929]

What happened to the anon who was making the point and click mod?

[Anonymous No.3117935]

Was stuck for a day on the one part in Elevator to Hell where there's a room with like 7 Mancubi. I kept rushing in like a fool and dying. Tried exploring and found, oh you are meant to go another way around, kill them from a different angle, then assault the room. made it much easier.

Onto TNT now.

Now is it just me or is the PSX version much easier? I know there's no Arch-villes and they're a chore. Maybe I'm just getting better at Doom? Or maybe the lower enemy variety per level makes it easier?

I'm doing no saves and UV. Death = pistol start, otherwize keep going. So it is kinda hard but not really that hard. Trying to keep it PSX authentic.

[Anonymous No.3117937]

>>3117479
Just finished scythe, scythe, 2 and Alien Vendetta.

any suggestions for similar pwads?

[Anonymous No.3117939]

>>3117937

This >>3117652 seems like a good list.

[Anonymous No.3117961]

>>3117937
>>3117939
Let me add Kama Sutra to it

[amv2k9 !i9JAl7Ac3U No.3117963]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3117968]

>>3117525
>WHAT THE... CREEPY BONE

[Anonymous No.3117969]

>want to try out PSX Doom TC
>check forum post in DW
>title says latest version is 2.135
>read OP
>"Here's the link to ScottGray's original post containing the most up to date download links related to the project."
>link leads to version 2.134
>read OP further
>"UPDATE: fenderc01 (Who made the original PSX Doom TC) has kindly made a mediafire page which compiles all the files (including the most recent TC update) related to this project on one page. here is the link for those who are interested."
>link leads to version 2.131
>read doomwiki entry
>says it's currently in "Beta 12"

jesucristo

[Anonymous No.3117972]

i like smoothdoom and smoothed

[Anonymous No.3117979]

>>3117576

this actually looks pretty cool

[Anonymous No.3117983]

>>3117850
sorry i tend to newspost almost everything made by anons, i am probably too hasty quite often, but i also think most authors are too modest to reply to the news post with their own stuff. also
>>3117186
>The pistol is done.
seemed to suggest you were finished with it so i am sorry for the misunderstanding

[Anonymous No.3117986]

>>3117935
Congrats on finishing Master Levels.

>otherwize keep going
That's kind of lame. I'd recommend doing ALWAYS pistol starts, and maybe using saves once or twice if the level is proving difficult. Doom is more fun that way, sometimes starting with SSG, RL, PR, etc. makes levels too easy.

Also you will notice soon enough that levels in TNT are massive (especially from level 20 onwards), and the creators enjoy teleporting the player into deadly arenas at the end of them. Doing a no-save can mean losing 40 minutes of level play for an unexpected 5 seconds fuck up. I'd say it's pretty hardcore for players who are not veterans yet, and it might turn some people off, so don't be ashamed of saving once or twice per level.

[Anonymous No.3117991]

>>3117983
I don't mind man. I was only messing. I thought myself it was finished to but I thought of some more ways to make it better I just didn't expect it to be posted.

[Anonymous No.3117994]

hey Term i don't want to rush you or anything, but is there an ETA on DUMP 2?

here, have a complimentary ad from a popular sandwich chain

[Anonymous No.3117998]

>>3117905
>Is the JPCP meant to be played pistol start each level?
almost certainly. nearly all community projects are, by their very nature.

[Anonymous No.3118000]

>>3117969

Their thread is a total mess and the OP is wildly out of date. You have to dig through the thread a bit to find the current version.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/rfdsg7djzgjvc91/PSXDoom+2.135BETA.zip

>>3117986

I usually suicide with a rocket at levels anyways to keep my ammo low.

[Anonymous No.3118003]

>>3117885
Never, because the netcode dev is a faggot nerd who thinks P2P multiplayer is somehow reasonable.

Zandronum is your only option.

[Anonymous No.3118004]

>TNT: Wormhole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vw45QV_9I0

Am I a crazy person or does this level look like an identical one from Doom 1 or 2? Maybe I've replayed it before or something.

[Anonymous No.3118005]

>Is the JPCP meant to be played pistol start each levels is no connection.

[Anonymous No.3118010]

>>3117994
>is there an ETA on DUMP 2?

Tonight, assuming nothing explodes--I've been saying that for the past week, but it's really the only answer I can give.
Unfortunately, one mapper in particular took much longer than I'd hoped to do much less than I'd expected, so I've been polishing things up.

Sorry for the delay.

[Anonymous No.3118013]

>>3117991
this is fine, if you post an improved version, i will update the link. and like i said i have a very low threshold for newsworthiness, more on the order of "here's things from the past few threads you might have missed". it rarely seems to be an issue other than that one time there was a brutal doom promo video linked, i newsposted it and got yelled at a lot for "how is this news". but i've newsposted promo videos for other mods and no-one's said anything so go figure. anyway that has been a hopefully interesting insight into how news posts get written, thanks for reading.

[Anonymous No.3118018]

>>3118004
i don't think it's that similar to a doom or doom2 map. you may have played it once a long time ago, or watched a video or something, and your brain remembers the images but not the specifics. this happens to me a lot, i'll get three quarters of the way through some pwad map and suddenly realise i've played it before ten years ago, not realising until some minor detail makes a connection form in my mind.

[Anonymous No.3118019]

>>3118004
Yeah you are crazy. The two halves of the level do look identical though.

A better question is, why the fuck did they make 90% of this otherwise very interesting level unnecessary? Did the mapper think it was some clever "gotcha!"?

[Anonymous No.3118028]

>>3118019
i expect it was just overlooked. a copypaste error (such "duplicate" style maps are prone to such things) which was never caught in testing. note that the line in the same relative position on the other side of the wormhole opens the door in the same relative position. you can imagine one side was made then copied without due care and attention.

[Anonymous No.3118029]

>>3118010
hey man don't be sorry, you're busting your ass to get it out

[Anonymous No.3118035]

>>3117525
Good megawad, would be nice if someone would upload the ost

[Anonymous No.3118041]

>>3117525
which wad is this?

[Anonymous No.3118048]

>>3118035
>upload the ost

just use an editor and rip it out

[Anonymous No.3118056]

>>3118029
>busting your ass to get dump number 2 out

[Anonymous No.3118057]

Well, it WAS supposed to home in on enemies instead but this is way cooler.

[Anonymous No.3118069]

>>3118056

[Anonymous No.3118079]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3118092]

>>3118057
loving the plasma shield

[Anonymous No.3118102]

>>3118057

[Anonymous No.3118104]

Any news on the Berserk wad? Been away for about 6 months.

[Anonymous No.3118130]

[Anonymous No.3118139]

>>3118041
Japanese Community Project

[Anonymous No.3118154]

I tried Doom once. I don't like keyboard only games where you have to aim and shoot in a first person perspective

[Anonymous No.3118158]

>>3118154
So use a mouse.

[Anonymous No.3118160]

>>3118154
Doom isn't keyboard only.

[Anonymous No.3118162]

>tfw want to work on my map but too tired and no free time

[amv2k9 !i9JAl7Ac3U No.3118184]

>>3118057

Fun fact: this happens because projectiles, by default, have the actor that fired them stored as their target.

[Anonymous No.3118185]

>>3118162
i hear you senpai

i want to work on any number of things right now but i'm sacked from weeks of 10-hour days painting a warehouse

money's good though, gonna use it to maybe start my own small business

[Anonymous No.3118189]

>>3118184
Fun fact: A_SeekerMissile uses the tracer field

[Anonymous No.3118191]

>>3118189

You're both right and wrong.
The tracer is the target, you see.

[Anonymous No.3118193]

>>3118154
If you have GZDoom just go to settings and enable mouse

[Anonymous No.3118206]

>>3118185
Hey! Good luck to you, I'm about to leave to my second job, also saving to try to start a business.

[Anonymous No.3118212]

>>3118185
>>3118206

What kinda businesses are you planning to start up? Are they vidjo gaym related?

[Anonymous No.3118218]

>>3118212

I want to make custom desks for synthesizer players that have a midi keyboard built into them, maybe optional modular racks

[Anonymous No.3118219]

Someone redraw this as Doom marine and a Revnant.

[Anonymous No.3118221]

>>3118219
...but that's already what i'm looking at

[Anonymous No.3118223]

>>3118221

It's a poor drawn version of a scene from True Lies.

But I immediately saw Revnant and Marine.

[Anonymous No.3118229]

>>3118223
>that's supposed to be jamie lee curtis

[Anonymous No.3118235]

>>3118057
That's baller.

[Anonymous No.3118285]

Anyone else disappointed with the Imps design? like idk but the more I see the Imp the cuter it gets. Maybe I watch too much anime I don't know.

[Anonymous No.3118308]

>>3118285
At this point I think every Doom enemy is absolutely adorable, with the exception of the mancubi. The Doom 4 mancubi are the absolute cutest, though.

[Anonymous No.3118341]

>>3118285

He's just not that well drawn. I think he was made entirely from pixel art, rather than based on a puppet like many of the others.

He looks lumpy or made of clay or something.

[Anonymous No.3118346]

>>3118341
He looks like a Wolfenstein 3D character.

[Anonymous No.3118349]

>>3118308
>At this point I think every Doom enemy is absolutely adorable
oh god I thought I was alone

wake me up from this nightmare I've become

[Anonymous No.3118381]

>>3118308
>with the exception of the mancubi

[Anonymous No.3118393]

>>3118308
>doom enemies are qt across the board
>quake enemies are ugly abominations

tfw

[Anonymous No.3118397]

>>3118308
Dont fat shame him you privileged piece of shit!

[Anonymous No.3118403]

>>3118308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLu6LeUW_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAEuH3tyH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eBVa38PgP8

[Anonymous No.3118405]

Aubrey Hodges

or

Robert Prince

Who did the better score?

[Anonymous No.3118417]

>>3118285
I think he makes a passable stooge monster, the kind you gun down en masse.

His frames aren't all 100% consistent though. His head looks oddly different from some angles.

>>3118341
Funny you should say that, because while the Imp might have been drawn from scratch, many of the monsters are made from clay-sculpts on posable anatomy doll (these would often break and fall apart when reposed, leading to extra labor and inconsistencies, so that's why they began looking at alternatives)

[Anonymous No.3118426]

>TNT: The Prison

So is this level a luck based mission with pistol start?

>>3118417

I think the zombie guys are also pure pixelart. They look really good though.

[Anonymous No.3118446]

>>3118403
Shit, I somehow completely forgot about these. I take back my statements about poor abused mancubi.

[Anonymous No.3118464]

>>3118446

The song is mostly about ranting about Croatian communists. But since people don't speak Serbian, they just assumed it was a Muslim hate song.

[Anonymous No.3118478]

>>3118405

You asked this last thread.

[Anonymous No.3118493]

>Just dash past these enemies
>Why am I stuck? I can't move?
>Arg, I'm getting attacked.
>but where
>die
>camera pans to a lost soul just above my head

[Anonymous No.3118509]

>>3118393
>implying Shamblers aren't fucking adorable

[Anonymous No.3118519]

>>3118426
Nope, the Zombie Trooper, Sergeant and Doomguy are all based on the same posable clay model, the reason they move a little awkwardly is because quite literally, they have a stick up their bum.

Pic related isn't maybe the exact model, but basically, one of these, covered with sculpted clay, they'd make a pose, then take pics from 8 directions, then make a new pose.
This worked, but as stated, they would often break and parts would fall off.

The Baron Of Hell and Cyber Demon were also done in this manner.
Eventually they hired Mr. Punchatz, who would fashion flexible latex dolls, with steel skeletons, which would allow them to be easily posable and more consistent, without breaking, these were:
>Revenant
>Mancubus
>Spider Mastermind
>Arch-Vile

The Caco/Elemental I think was painted from scratch, based on the head of an Astral Dreadnaught, the Arachnotron was without a doubt a scaled down and repainted Mastermind, the Lost Soul was a medical skull, and the Pinkie was painted over a Jurassic Park dinosaur toy they posed (which gave surprisingly good results, given just how rudimentary this was).
The Chaingun Commando I think must be redrawn using the other zombies/marines as referene.

[Anonymous No.3118527]

>>3118464
The remove kebab thing?
Pretty sure that the guy singing and the guy with the accordion are suspected war criminals, and that they're singing about "fascists" and how Radovan Karazdic is their hero (as in, espousing genocide).

The dissolution of Yugoslavia was such a tremendous clusterfuck.

[Anonymous No.3118548]

>>3117545
Plutonia is pretty good, but also designed to be hard. Prepare yourself, as Doom 2's monsters get used a lot.

I also reckon you should play Memento Mori and Icarus, as they share some people with Final Doom.

[Anonymous No.3118557]

>>3118426
Prison has a tricky start from pistol start, but once you're out of there, its not too bad.

[Anonymous No.3118584]

My dxtory isn't recognizing GZDoom. Anyone else have this happen?

[Anonymous No.3118586]

any good medieval-themed mapsets?

[Anonymous No.3118724]

>>3118212
>>3118218
And I want to start a legal distillery.

[Anonymous No.3118727]

>>3118586
for hexen:
deathkings of dark citadel
necrosis
scourge of viscerus
serpent: resurrection
wrath of chronos
shadows of chonos

[Anonymous No.3118743]

>>3118586
Eternal Doom for the most part is medieval. Has a time travel plot.

[Anonymous No.3118763]

>>3118586
Quake has a vanilla set. Also retro jam 1 of quake. There are many many others.

[Anonymous No.3118914]

>>3118727
Caldera was one of my favorites on native Hexen. Source ports didn't run it perfectly, if I remember right. Still worth checking out, if only for the laughable Korax impression.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/hexen/a-c/caldera

[Anonymous No.3118957]

Are all the levels as hard as The Prison in TNT? Stuck on this one for hours.

[Anonymous No.3118964]

Now I might get some flak over this, but would I be entirely wrong if I say that the real reason Hell Beneath and Perfect Hatred are so hard is because there isn't much ammo lying around?

I completed Thy Flesh Consumed on UV last weekend and the only level where I didn't get 100% kills was Hell Beneath, because there's nothing there to kill the Barons with. Never mind the lack of health, it's the ammo you don't have enough. You can expend every round from every gun you have and they're still going strong. Picking up the sargeants' shotguns won't give you enough ammo. Thinking it was a UV-only peculiarity, I tested Hell Beneath on HMP, but it suffers from the same problem. I then gave up on that level and just moved on. I guess one can get 100% kills in HB, but it gets tricky and dangerous. Far trickier I have patience for.

Perfect Hatred is better in this regard, but not much. I could get 100% kills there, but it took a lot of work.

[Anonymous No.3119027]

>>3118154

[Anonymous No.3119048]

>>3118957
Map09 Stronghold is also fairly challenging, making heavy use of hitscanners. Plenty of levels in the second half can be challenging, too.

[Anonymous No.3119051]

>>3118964
Hell Beneath's difficulty pretty much is entirely thanks to a lack of health and ammo.

Peferct Hatred does have other factors, like the swarm of Cacodemons at the start, Barons in many tight spots, and damaging floors.

[Anonymous No.3119056]

>>3117315
Does third person shooter count?

[Anonymous No.3119065]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/io1py7ymv6kd9vr/DUMP-2-test2.pk3?dl=1

Here we go! Second test build is ready to go! Only five days after I expected it to be!
I think I've included everyone's updates, fixes, and quotes, and a lot of the credits are implemented too. The hub is implemented as well, as well as the final map and the final battle.

This will be the last test build. If you have any last-minute fixes, make them count. If you have any last-minute criticisms, make them count. If you have anything you want to address or correct, let me know now, before it's too late!

[Anonymous No.3119152]

Gonna play "Doom the Way Id Did" do I also need to load "DTWID.deh" with the .wad?

[Anonymous No.3119165]

>>3119152
only if you are playing in Chocolate Doom and you want updated map names on the automap, iirc that's all it does.

if you are using a source port most source ports will read the equivalent DEHACKED lump straight out of the wad so you don't have to care about the separate deh.

[Anonymous No.3119168]

>>3117343
Yholl kinda screwed himself in the long run with the way he implemented things in his mod.
>I don't want to use ACS because I learned decorate first and ACS seems scary
>Well now I've started to learn ACS but I want to see if I can do the whole mod in decorate
>It turns out I have to use ACS in a non-insignificant capacity because of decorate limits, but now there's too much unmanageable decorate to go back and change it all to ACS anyway
Then there's also the fact that, while it's great that he's integrated his mod with DRPG, he can't make any significant overhauls that DRPG's author wouldn't want to keep parity with.

That said, he's not the first person to do this, and he won't be the last. Decorate is almost a trap for people first learning to code. But then again if you learn that first, you seem to understand it better after a while than those that learned real programming first, and once you get over avoiding acs and/or real programming languages it doesn't really hinder you from understanding those (acs has a couple of really weird things but it's still basically just C) since they are more intuitive and make a lot more sense.

[Anonymous No.3119169]

>>3117454
It would actually be significantly easier to do in ACS because you could use variables and math for things instead of having to have each thing listed out for each possible scenario. You could also do a mix of ACS and sbarinfo with some scripts and dummy items.

>DECORATE and ACS are not designed in a way that allows you to easily retrieve a weapon's fire rate, potential hitscan/projectile deviation, etc.
ACS (and decorate, just because it allows you to access ACS) are actually pretty easy to use for this, you just need to either use user vars (or pseudo user var dummy items if you really want) or even just variables tied to each player in an array.

>keep in mind that when user variables are defined on a weapon, you have to define them on the playerclass as well.
If you want to use user variables, you just define them on the player and not on the weapon at all, then access them via acs. You actually cannot call user vars from player weapons solely via decorate, the user var as defined on the weapon and the user var as defined on the player are two different user vars as far as decorate is concerned, but a script correctly accesses the user var.

>Multiply that by the over 200 weapons DRLA has, and you have a metric assload of variables to keep track of.
If you work out a good naming system for variables and have them handle the various stats in a way that makes sense then it wouldn't be too hard. I was thinking of perhaps having a tier tied to weapon, then each weapon calls the corresponding stat per upgrade tier. You could even have everything tied into an array for easy modification and handling.

The thing is though, this would've been easiest to do from the start, now it would be a huge amount of work to completely redo.

[Anonymous No.3119176]

>>3119169
I really, REALLY wish there was a way to access an inventory item's properties even when it's running on the player in DECORATE

it'd make life so much easier on so many fronts

[Anonymous No.3119186]

>>3117576

[Anonymous No.3119197]

>>3119176
I believe that you can have user vars in weapons which can be accessed via decorate (but not acs) but I'm not sure if they can produce wonky behavior, and afaik they don't get preserved if the weapon gets dropped (though they might.)

The only thing that can really be done as of now is player arrays (either user vars or just regular arrays that are tied to the player) that correspond to the item so when you drop it you can apply it to that item.

As for pickups, you have to have it be a non item actor that checks proximity to each player and determines if it should be picked up by the player, because there is no way to access that via the pickup state. Ijon did a quake (2?) backpack for zand that does this, though I think it's a monster (which it doesn't have to be anymore) because back then it was required by zand's outdated code.

Another thing that's worth mentioning is that for accurate pickups you really want it to (probably behind a check for distance, not just every time) interpolate player position between tics based on current player speed to see if the player would be close enough to pick it up between tics and then queuing the pickup for the next tic, rather than just checking proximity each tic. IIRC this is what the doom and zdoom engine do for pickups behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.3119201]

>>3118417

That filename flatters me every time.

I hope you like the new blood in GMOTA

[Anonymous No.3119208]

>>3117479
>>>/vg/

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3119219]

>>3119197
>Ijon did a quake (2?) backpack for zand that does this, though I think it's a monster (which it doesn't have to be anymore) because back then it was required by zand's outdated code.

it was necessary in both zdoom and zandronum at the time (+INVENTORY.TRANSFER is very recent), and it's still pretty necessary today

+INVENTORY.TRANSFER will get you most of the way there, but you still have the pickup message that needs to tell you what you got exactly

the obvious solution would be to replace the pickup message with a blank string and run an ACS script to Log a pickup message, but you can't just look back in time to see what the player's inventory was

you'd have to run a script that constantly updates some arrays with the player's inventory, and have the ACS script use that

and no matter what, since you can't iterate through any actor's inventory, you can only handle items you explicitly define in the ACS, limiting it drastically

also I don't think doom and zdoom do *any* collision interpolation, with the exception of fastprojectile. normal projectiles flying through walls and actors when they go too fast would confirm that.

[Anonymous No.3119221]

>>3119208

[Anonymous No.3119235]

>>3119219
actually no I remember dumb shit with me going at 100000% speed and still running into walls.

it skipped straight over the things though, but I'd have to verify that

I mean I could look at the code but fuck that

[Anonymous No.3119286]

>>3118010
>one mapper in particular took much longer than I'd hoped to do much less than I'd expected

[Anonymous No.3119317]

[Anonymous No.3119318]

Which Doom source port do you think is the best?

[Anonymous No.3119323]

>>3119318
PrB+ for muh authenticity
GZDoom for muh mods

[Anonymous No.3119327]

>>3119318
GZDoom is basically the standard these days with Chocolate Doom and PrBoom+ being the "authentic" 90s experience ports.

GZDoom is basically the best port now, but original ZDoom is still pretty good. Zandronum is also pretty great.

[Anonymous No.3119348]

>>3119327
>why no Crispy

[Anonymous No.3119350]

>2016
>not using Brutal Doom

[Anonymous No.3119351]

>>3119350
Brutal Doom gives me a headache after a while. Smooth Doom is better.

[Anonymous No.3119354]

>>3119351
Are you 80 years old?

[Anonymous No.3119385]

>>3117525
It was a nice map, Though for some reason my doom just lagged beyond hell when all the revenants came out.

[Anonymous No.3119389]

>>3119350
>2016
>not enjoying constant onscreen clusterfuck of smoke and fire particles
>not enjoying script-breaking bugs that make some older maps autofinish in 30 seconds
>not enjoying hitscanners capable of raping your rear across the whole map
>not enjoying constant repeats of same scream sound overshadowing every other sound
>not enjoying blood covering the swithces making them unidentifiable

the list goes on.

[Anonymous No.3119395]

>>3119389
Works on my machine.

[Anonymous No.3119398]

>>3119395
Yeah it works. Some maps of Scythe autofinish in 20-30 seconds because some shit happens to the voodoo doll, caused by Mark's scripting. Also on many maps infighting between monsters happens right from the start, without any player's input, which does not happen normally.
Smoke and fire particles cover the place when you fight any decent ammount of monsters, which reders the fight much less manageable than it is supposed to.

BD hinders the gameplay and it's overflashiness makes the mod work against itself.

Simply put: not a good game/mod design.

[Anonymous No.3119410]

>>3119398
Are there any better alternatives? I really like how powerful it makes the weapons feel.

[Anonymous No.3119413]

>>3117479
i regret nothing.

[Anonymous No.3119421]

>>3119410
What about Faspons? It changes monster behaviour slightly but you can even turn that off.

[Anonymous No.3119427]

>>3119410
Beautiful Doom.
Accessories To Murder

[Anonymous No.3119429]

>>3119410
BD:SE ?

[Anonymous No.3119431]

>>3119421
But I like my thousands of blood particles :((

>>3119427
Promising, I'll check them out.

>>3119429
What is it aiming to actually do? Looks to me like it just had random changes done just because.

[Anonymous No.3119438]

>>3119431
Faspons has a Ketchup compatible addon so... there are your blood particles.

Also, you could check Trailblazer.

[Anonymous No.3119447]

>>3119438
IIRC someone even amde a BD-lite version compatible with Trailblazer

[Anonymous No.3119451]

>>3119410
Project MSX is pretty cool. Demonsteele is cool too.

[Anonymous No.3119469]

>>3118154
Doom always had mouse support from the day it was released, probably had it by the Alpha.

[Anonymous No.3119470]

>>3119389
quite frankly this is what is wrong with Brutal doom in it's entirety, and quite frankly brutal doom is a mod into which you could play for maybe 1-6 hours and then delete it and nothing of value is lost
Fatalities are boring after seeing the same ones after seeing them more than 5 times

Brutal Doom is nothing but a fire cracker, it's shortly lived, loud, and annoying when you set it off repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.3119472]

>>3119470
I like it.

[Anonymous No.3119476]

>>3119410
Seconding Accessories To Murder, it does some of the same things but much cleaner looking, much better sound design, and without a bunch of the luggage.

[Anonymous No.3119514]

>>3118219
here you go anon
probably the least fortunate thing ive ever done

[Anonymous No.3119516]

>>3119476
Accessories To Murder fucks up my graphics card for some reason. No idea why?

[Anonymous No.3119517]

>>3119476

I can't stand the changes made to the monsters for Accessories to murder. The sprites of say the zomboman look terrible and the monster sounds are awful (and I recognize them from Area 51).

[Anonymous No.3119604]

>>3119318
DOOM RETRO is a classic, refined source port that is truly the way it was meant to be played.

[Anonymous No.3119607]

>>3119516
Could be the voxels, those always eat memory and GZDoom is pretty poorly optimized.
Open the .pk3 in Slade and delete the voxel files, that should cut down drastically on your performance issues.

>>3119517
I like some better than others.
The knight and baron are fine, as are the caco, and pain elemental.
Arachno replacement used to be annoying as shit, was changed in the latest version to something better, the zombies I'm lukewarm towards. I dislike the mancubus, not because of his design, it's good, but because he shoots rockets, and I dislike the rocket launcher in ATM a lot, it's a really boring and iffy weapon.

The Vore I kind of like as a vile replacement.

>monster sounds are awful (and I recognize them from Area 51)
I think most are good, to be honest famicom. Never played A51.

[Anonymous No.3119608]

>>3119604

[Anonymous No.3119617]

>>3119472
And your opinion is wrong!

[Anonymous No.3119621]

>>3119617

That's fucking cute.

[Anonymous No.3119627]

>>3119604

[Anonymous No.3119629]

new to mapping here
is there anyway to further edit action speeds and such in doombuilder 2? i see some people have that option in tutorials but i only have predefined actions...

[Anonymous No.3119631]

>>3119629
If you want the most options, map in UDMF format. If you want some options but also demos you'll want to map in Boom format.

[Anonymous No.3119639]

>>3119631
How does UDMF break demos?

[Anonymous No.3119642]

>>3119639
UDMF itself doesn't break demos, most (if not all?) the ports that use it, however, do.

[Anonymous No.3119645]

>>3119642
Is it the reason why most demos don't work properly in anything but PrBoom+?

[Anonymous No.3119646]

>>3119517
Agreed, the sound replacements for the fodder enemies are just obnoxious and awful, and whenever someone says they like AtM, I always think to myself "how doesn't the sound design bother the hell out of you, Anon".

[Anonymous No.3119648]

>Accurate Flaming Shotgun, eh?

[Anonymous No.3119651]

>>3119648
neat.

[Anonymous No.3119657]

>Cacodemons in Accessories to Murder DEFLATE upon death
>with cartoon-styled air effect and sound
what

[Anonymous No.3119661]

>>3119645
no

[Anonymous No.3119662]

>>3119657
haha so whacky

[Anonymous No.3119667]

>>3119662
That's what I don't get, it's just completely out of place.

[Anonymous No.3119670]

>>3119667
why else do you think they fly with no wings?
They're full of a lighter gas than the surrounding environment

[Anonymous No.3119680]

>>3119670
hell magic. they need hell's reality warping effect. this is why they don't appear on phobos, because it's not been dragged into hell.

[Anonymous No.3119708]

https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/doom-open-beta-and-post-launch-content/2016/04/06/101

>"We know the DOOM community has always been about great user-generated content, and that’s something we want to continue to encourage with SnapMap"

There's not a single mention of additional singleplayer content or god forbid an expansion pack

I don't think there's been a game in quite a while that kept disappointing me with each new piece of information

[Anonymous No.3119712]

>>3119708
And how many miserable cunts like you would eviserate Bethesda if they DID happen to announce, "Oh, by the way, we'll have additional content on the way for a fee?"

DLC, expansion pack, same shit different name.

[Anonymous No.3119714]

>>3119712
>And how many miserable cunts like you would eviserate Bethesda if they DID happen to announce, "Oh, by the way, we'll have additional content on the way for a fee?"

they did

[Anonymous No.3119715]

>>3119670

DOOM 4 says cacodemons are psychic and levitate with telekinesis.

Think that's actually kinda cooler than them being bags of gas.

[Anonymous No.3119718]

>>3119646
>how does the sound design not bother you
It's not Brutal Doom sound design, that's good enough for me.
Personally though, I've changed out some sounds.

[Anonymous No.3119721]

>>3119715
The gas kind of makes sense to me.
They could still be a decree of psychic.

[Anonymous No.3119729]

>>3119712
>miserable cunts like you
Woah man, the fuck did I ever do to you?

But anyway, I'm annoyed that they're putting all this effort into the multiplayer when Doom's never been about the multiplayer like, say, Quake.

[Anonymous No.3119732]

>>3119729
Doom deathmatching was still incredibly popular back in it's heyday before Quake though.

[Anonymous No.3119734]

>>3119708
back to /v/ please

[Anonymous No.3119736]

>>3119732
Did the original Doom deathmach have a 2 weapon limit, kill streaks and perks?

[Anonymous No.3119738]

>>3119736

[Anonymous No.3119746]

>>3119208
Agreed. This shit should be on /vg/

[Anonymous No.3119759]

>>3119729
>Woah man, the fuck did I ever do to you?

Made a really whingy post and implied that giving users (free) map-creation functionality right out of the gate isn't good enough as far as single-player content is concerned, and then opined for more paid single-player content.

[Anonymous No.3119771]

>>3119708
don't worry, they are going to announce a Knee-Deep In The Dead remake DLC at E3

[Anonymous No.3119772]

So, /vr/oom, what do you do when you've found yourself stuck mapping, as in, just no clue how to proceed?

[Anonymous No.3119780]

>>3119772
Stay awake until I start hallucinating then go to sleep and hope I have trippy lurid dreams that will give me an idea where to go next.

[Anonymous No.3119782]

>>3119772
Abandon the map forever. Then start a new one, which I also abandon forever shortly.

I should stick to zdoom scripting where I occasionally finish something once in a while at least.

[Anonymous No.3119784]

>>3119772
I've been working on multiple levels at once, so I just chop and change. If I can't think of anything for one, I just go to another.

[Anonymous No.3119787]

>>3119782
>Abandon the map forever. Then start a new one, which I also abandon forever shortly.
a true artist

[Anonymous No.3119801]

>>3119772
I just start drawing sectors and it evolves from there.

[Anonymous No.3119802]

>>3119670
I assumed that both of these guys control their buoyancy via expelling gases through their rear orifices.

[Anonymous No.3119803]

>>3119772
stare at gzdoombuilder for hours and then wonder what i'm doing

[Anonymous No.3119814]

>>3117650
Going Down was the most fun I've had in ages.

[Anonymous No.3119815]

>>3119759
Map creation limited to 15-20 basic building blocks (rooms) with no way to produce good level geometry.

Hunted: The Demon's Forge did same thing and heavily advertised it as "end-all solution for all your mapping needs". It could only produce samey-labirinths with no variety and was abandoned a few weeks after the start.

[Anonymous No.3119820]

>>3119712
>calling people who actually produce content "miserable cunts"

Go fuck yourself with a cactus, mate.

[Anonymous No.3119827]

DLC for the new Doom:

>Throughout the year, multiplayer will also receive content updates in the form of new game modes. Both of these SnapMap and multiplayer updates will be free to use and play.
Three premium multiplayer DLC packs will be released after launch and will contain new maps, hack modules, playable demons, weapons and more.
The first DLC will be available this summer and includes:
Three new maps One new weapon One new playable demon One new armour set One new piece of equipment New hack modules and taunts New customization colors and patterns Each DLC pack will cost $14.99/£11.99/€14.99 each. Alternatively, a Season Pass will include all future content for $39.99/£29.99/€39.99.

Sounds fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.3119835]

>>3119802
makes sense to me. "hell magic" and "psychic energy" are dumb.

[Anonymous No.3119854]

>>3117574
FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.3119873]

>>3119772

Never ever progress and find other outlets while the memory of my plans haunt me.

I was two maps complete with a 32 map project. No progress made in like 2-3 weeks. RIP.

[Anonymous No.3119874]

>>3119350

right back at ya, champ

>2016
>using brutal doom

actually it makes me wonder how many actually still play unmodded BD and use one of the many variants out there.

[Anonymous No.3119903]

>>3119827
Aside from the season pass, that's not really that awful. They could easily throw in 2 or 3 times the new maps for that price though.

I really don't care about multiplayer however, and would rather see more singleplayer content.

[Anonymous No.3119913]

>>3119772
I take a break and do something else that requires my attention. Sometimes I then suddenly get an idea to continue the map with. Or I freestyle it, I draw rooms as squares and add to them as I think of stuff to put in. All of wheresmyshotgun.wad was made this way.

[Anonymous No.3119995]

>>3119410

Brutal doom J. He replaced the taunt button with FIGHTING

[Anonymous No.3120016]

ssssssssssss xD LOOOL!!!wwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.3120060]

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but how do you make monsters deaf in GZDB?

[Anonymous No.3120065]

>>3120060
Ambush Players equals Deaf. (THey get " triggered" by seeing you instead of hearing)

[Anonymous No.3120067]

>>3120060
It's "Ambush players".

Monsters never were deaf to begin with. They just stay inactive but they can still hear you. If you shoot and then you try to get behind them, they still know you're there.

[Anonymous No.3120074]

>>3120065
I am now imagining a closet full of imps screaming at doomguy for invading their safe space.

[Anonymous No.3120081]

>>3120060
you can set ambush players, but they can still hear you
otherwise you will need to decorate an actor with A_LookEx LOF_NOSOUNDCHECK

[Anonymous No.3120085]

>>3120065
>>3120067
>>3120081
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3120098]

>>3119476
i think AtM looks cool (and plays well) but the gurgling zombies and farting cacos are just ridiculous

also, the hitscanners are devastating bullshit

[Anonymous No.3120121]

>>3120098
The gurgling is annoying, but I can deal with the deflating caco.

The hitscanners are indeed much meaner, but that also means the bestiary is more varied, and forces you to reasses threats.
The moment you turn a corner and see a shotgunner, you shoot first and back off before his buddy can unload at you.

[Anonymous No.3120174]

>tight space
>baron of hell

Really wish you'd cut this out, Memento Mori 2

[Anonymous No.3120183]

Where can I get a Doom64 wad for Doom64 EX?

[Anonymous No.3120196]

>>3120174
lern2dodge famalam

[Anonymous No.3120197]

>>3120183
You need to LEGALLY PURCHASE the doom 64 cartridge and extract the rom file (totally on your own of course.) Your doom64 rom can then be converted to a wad by the doom 64 ex launcher.

[Anonymous No.3120202]

>>3120183
You have to download an N64 rom and use WadGen to make it.

[Anonymous No.3120210]

>>3120196
I can dodge somewhat but it's just really annoying.

[Anonymous No.3120214]

>>3119219
I meant a monster actor as opposed to just any old regular non-inventory actor; I know inventory is pretty silly with it's pickup state not having any way to self reference.

If ZDoom doesn't do interpolation that makes it even easier then, since most players won't even be going as fast as a fastprojectile.

Actually the fastprojectile bit could potentially be used as an interpolating pickup item for super fast players if one didn't want to write new interpolation stuff, so long as only one could pick up the item (like mariokart pickups.) Maybe something worthwhile for cyberrunner if it ever gets worked on again?

As for the ACS limits thing, that's what I was saying, I just didn't know that I was talking to the guy that did the backpack who already knew about it.

>replace the pickup message with a blank string and run an ACS script to Log a pickup message
I've actually had good results from dummy +ALWAYSPICKUP pickup items being warped and updated to the player's position, since while you can fake everything about the pickup item (including scrolling down for other fake pickup messages so they don't overlap), you can't have the messages play nice with actual pickup messages.

>and no matter what, since you can't iterate through any actor's inventory, you can only handle items you explicitly define in the ACS, limiting it drastically
I don't know if that would end up being a huge limit for most mods, simply because in most cases you'd already have conflicts between stuff that wasn't designed to work together. Exceptions being things like the quake backpack since, counter-intuitively, I think the more limited in scope a mod is the more the limit would affect them.

[Anonymous No.3120265]

Is there any way to get Zandronum to have co-op mode just like in Serious Sam - with common pool of lives for all players, and with every player having their own set of items?

[Anonymous No.3120272]

>>3120214
>[char limit...] Maybe something worthwhile for cyberrunner if it ever gets worked on again?

actually that never came up, because the pickups are 96 units wide and 48 units tall (IIRC just so it was easier to grab them, but the "you can't go too fast to pick them up" part is also nice)

and yeah if cyberrunner gets worked on again, it'll be from the ground up and taking full advantage of GDCC, since GDCC is compatible with zandronum 3, but that's neither here nor there

>Exceptions being things like the quake backpack since, counter-intuitively, I think the more limited in scope a mod is the more the limit would affect them.

yeah, funny that - the less you do, the more you have to be compatible with

it's my huge frustration with zdoom modding in general - due to its lack of any sort of iterators, it's impossible in many cases to have true, generalized mod compatibility, and it's so damn frustrating

it especially chaps my ass because after messing with lua, which easily allows for iterators, first-class functions, key->value tables (in fact that's the only sort of table it has), and a bunch of other fun stuff, there's just so much cool stuff that could be done elegantly

but zdoom can't do any of it, and what it can do is made into a huge mess.

hell, with dakka, I ran into a map variable limit with its ACS. a fucking map variable limit. it's at 128, and 95% of those map variables are already arrays. so now I have to hack around basic fucking data storage if I want to extend it any further, which invariably means cramming arrays into other arrays, which just tacks on the cycles, often in places that can't afford it like the arc code.

pisses me off, just endlessly running into limitations.

>I just didn't know that I was talking to the guy that did the backpack who already knew about it.

gotta be sneaky

[Anonymous No.3120298]

Holy shit the music in Doom64 is creepy.

[Anonymous No.3120316]

>>3119350

The weapon sprites, sounds and animations are nice. But the rest is a mess. It's too much.

Although there's some blood, Doom isn't the super gore fest that Brutal tries to be. The original game, and epsidoe have a more low key horror feel.

[Anonymous No.3120327]

>>3120272
>so now I have to hack around basic fucking data storage if I want to extend it any further, which invariably means cramming arrays into other arrays, which just tacks on the cycles, often in places that can't afford it like the arc code.
>pisses me off, just endlessly running into limitations.
You could always use the super intuitive and rational workaround of having dummy actors with user var arrays on them and passing their tids. Slow everything else down with them so the sardine can arrays seem fast in comparison! I messed around with that trying to replicate pointers and structs before I realized that while it would ""work"" it was the most retarded thing ever and I should just use GDCC.

>since GDCC is compatible with zandronum 3
I didn't know that it had been confirmed by someone that knew zandronum well. It gives even more reason to have GDCC be the way forward.

[Anonymous No.3120335]

>>3120327
>You could always use the super intuitive and rational workaround of having dummy actors with user var arrays on them and passing their tids.
>passing their tids

AND THEN ANOTHER ACTOR GETS ASSIGNED THE SAME TID, AND EVERYTHING FALLS APART

BECAUSE SOMEHOW IN THE 17 YEARS ZDOOM HAS HAD ACS, AN UNAMBIGUOUS WAY TO REFER TO A SPECIFIC ACTOR HAS *STILL* NOT FOUND ITS WAY IN

how the fuck has zdoom gotten this far

[Anonymous No.3120373]

>>3120335
No, you see, it's perfectly fine because you make sure everything in the game has a tid with uniquetid, including things your mod doesn't have any need to access but you give it a tid anyway, then check all the tids from everything to make sure they don't conflict with your pointer actor tids, then change them back (after making sure the change back doesn't conflict) because if you don't it'll fuck up certain zdoom maps, and then you can be reasonably sure that your tids probably won't be overwritten maybe, especially since your mod is compatible with absolutely nothing else by this point, and also you constantly update the actors tids every tic with new uniquetid tids so that actors getting tids after them that you can't account for don't end up sharing the tids, and of course you need an array to keep track of these dummy actor tids and then and only then you can have your dummy pointer actors who you can finally pass around and store and retrieve information on so you don't have to run the same function eight times when you should be able to run it once and be done with.

Like I said, super intuitive and rational workaround!

[Anonymous No.3120376]

>>3120265
>common pool of lives for all players
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/livespool-v1b-t3.wad
Load this was in a server and use the survival game mode. (In Zandronum, "survival" means coop with lives)
...I actually haven't tested this in survival, just TLMS - but I've heard it works.

About the players having their own set of items... I don't think that exists in Zandro yet, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.3120383]

>>3120373
I laugh because it's true

it hurts because it's true

[Anonymous No.3120384]

>>3119721

How are they dumb explanations? They're fucking supernatural beings. I think the gas explanation is dumb because it makes them seem more... "natural" when they're supposed to be demonic beings from another plane of existence. I don't like scientific explanations for my demons.

[Anonymous No.3120389]

>>3119657

gif or webm plz?

[Anonymous No.3120390]

>>3120383

and it also hurts when you laugh

[Anonymous No.3120392]

Sorry this post was for

>>3119835

[Anonymous No.3120397]

>>3120392

And I was referring to this post

>>3120384

Jesus Christ I need to go to bed.

[Anonymous No.3120405]

>>3120384
>They're fucking supernatural beings.

There's no evidence that Hell is super natural. it's another dimension and the demons are just aliens.

[Anonymous No.3120409]

>>3120405

I'm going to punch you through the internet. Get ready, here it comes.

[Anonymous No.3120410]

>>3120405
>and the demons are just aliens.

[Anonymous No.3120413]

>>3120405

>demons are just aliens

I'm so fucking triggered right now.

[Anonymous No.3120414]

>>3120405
I'm a different anon but hey, that would really boring.
I'd love if they were mixing science and supernatural stuff, though. They're, like, the two faces of Doom.

[Anonymous No.3120417]

>>3120409

[Anonymous No.3120420]

>>3120384
Supernatural or not, you can kill them with a pistol. They're obviously subject to physical laws, and thus it follows that they function according to physical principles.

[Anonymous No.3120423]

>>3120420

Counterpoint: No matter what set or laws of physics you follow, getting shot fucking hurts.

[Anonymous No.3120434]

>>3120420
hell magics ain't gotta follow every bullshit rule of your bullshit physics

FUCK GRAVITY

[Anonymous No.3120441]

>>3117916
Plutonia has shit maps.

[Anonymous No.3120472]

>>3118285
Needs a better sound.

[Anonymous No.3120482]

where do I get the latest psx doom LOST LEVELS?

Is the one on the top of their thread up to date?

[Anonymous No.3120514]

>>3120298
>Holy shit the music in Doom64 is creepy.

Have you played the Playstation version?

[Anonymous No.3120516]

>PSX Revnants now move as fast as imps
>their rockets are 50% as fast
>but this means their rockets can do 180 degree turns now and follow you more

Overall more easier, but I get hit by rockets I swore I dodged around corners.

[Anonymous No.3120523]

>>3120384
They bleed and have organs, that means they have a physiology, that means that they function, and that damaging their organs with weapons killing them, means their organs do things, so really, there isn't anything actually wrong with detailing or explaining parts of their physiology, that doesn't take away from their demonic nature or supernatural abilities and origins, or their occult behavior.

I mean, if they're going to be invading our plane of existence, the creatures would reasonably have to function in it too, right?
They'd need to take in oxygen and pump blood to work their muscles, at least some of them.

>>3120405
Don't be THAT guy.
Although I'll admit that the way the novels framed it wasn't terrible, even if I think straight up hell is better.

[Anonymous No.3120549]

Not sure if I should stick with the black hole effect.

[Anonymous No.3120571]

>>3120514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoI57YXK2do
DANNY WON
heyyyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.3120575]

So was anyone else just given a warning for mentioning that DOOM 4 is a thing that exists?

[Anonymous No.3120623]

>>3119065
it's fuggin huge

loving the hub

[Anonymous No.3120624]

>>3120575
nope

[Anonymous No.3120628]

>>3120624

I don't get why you'd use futuristic power armor and then wield a 19th century double barrel shotgun.

[Anonymous No.3120634]

>>3120628
That's doom in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.3120638]

>>3120634

The sci-fi elements are kept pretty low usually. It's a far off space base on another world, but everyone uses shot guns, and low tech weaponry.

[Anonymous No.3120640]

>>3120624
Posting Halo here is not okay anon.

[Anonymous No.3120641]

>>3120628
Hey, it's dated, but it's still a functional weapon.

Also, both barrels actually make sense for big nasty demons.

[Anonymous No.3120648]

Holy hell, Arcane Dimensions is goat.

[Anonymous No.3120651]

>>3120624

I think this looks fun

[Anonymous No.3120653]

>>3119065
I love how you replaced the regular old F_SKY1 texture.

[Anonymous No.3120659]

>>3120651
it's pretty good for new game

this is all on ps4 btw

[Anonymous No.3120665]

>>3120659

>not jumping up and punching the revenant for a mid air glory kill

Other than that, goddamn that was cool..

[Anonymous No.3120667]

>>3120653
Whoops, I meant to say skybox, not texture.

[Anonymous No.3120683]

>>3120653

Can't take credit for that, unfortunately, that's cc4-tex.

[Anonymous No.3120687]

>>3120571
Sounds like 10 81. Like those radio station bumpers?

[Anonymous No.3120736]

>TNT: Steel works

Died 10 times here.

Something I'm missing? I just can't make it across in time. Doesn't seem to be anything to do with timing.

[Anonymous No.3120748]

>>3120736

[Anonymous No.3120835]

This is my very favorite map of this set.

[Anonymous No.3120881]

>want to play coop
>coop servers empty
>fucking prop hunt server is full of people

who the fuck plays prop hunt on doom? take that shit to gmod I want to slay some fucking demons

[Anonymous No.3120895]

>>3120624
Oh cool, so Mr. I Want More DLC is a janitor, then.

[Anonymous No.3120907]

Fuck

Chain gunners

One wrong move and BAM dead.

[Anonymous No.3120919]

>>3119514
>>3118219
Imagine being Doom guy in Plutonia and having to be all like "damn, Revenant, you fuckin' tough, all challenging with your homing missiles and horrific demonic skeleton face. I would totally enjoy fighting you, both my character and the human player." when all he really wants to do is berserk punch some 16 imps in a hellish marble castle. Like seriously imagine having to be Doom guy and not only strafe run in circles while the Revenant springs it's annoying ambushes in front of you, the favorable reviews barely concealing the dull looking and misaligned textures, and just strafe run, map after map, hour after hour, while it perfected those ambushes. Not only having to tolerate it's obnoxious fucking rockets but it's haughty attitude as everyone on Doomworld tells it it's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, FINAL DOOM LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to strafe run and avoid it's infuriating fucking homing rockets twist in directions and angles you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fragging nothing but a healthy diet of pinkies and mancubi and later alleged impse victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the techbases at UAC. You've never even seen anything this fucking tiresome before, and now you swear you can taste the blood that's leaking out from it's dimpled armor as it stumbles awkwardly to swing skeletal punches at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get gud at strafe running and revel in it's "Agitating (for that is what it calls itself)" strategy, the agitation it worked so hard for with professional mappers in the previous months. And then the linedef opens another monster closet, and you know you could rip and tear every single demon in this room before the Cyberdemon could put you down, but you just strafe and endure, because you're fucking Doom guy. You're not going to lose your future pro-skater career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

[Anonymous No.3120930]

Anyone want to do a heroic :^)

[Anonymous No.3120939]

>>3120648
The furthest I've got in one of the levels is the swamp castle. The levels feel so incredibly long, but I love all the little changes to the engine they've done and all the enemies they've added.

[Anonymous No.3120976]

[Anonymous No.3121021]

>>3120549
i like it
maybe it should have a few electric/plasma effects when it "grabs" something (just like when you put a finger on one of these neat plasma light)

[Anonymous No.3121026]

>>3120939

The level is obscenely long and all the backtracking for the tomes just kills me on it, which is sad because it's really impressively large and good-looking. AD is cool but I wish it had more levels that weren't 500-enemy death marches, Quake isn't really well-suited to such things imo.

[Anonymous No.3121031]

>>3120736
tried straferunning?

[Anonymous No.3121052]

>>3121031

straffing is faster than normal running!?

[Anonymous No.3121065]

>>3121052
SR50 (or 40) at least

to keep it short, you go forward and strafing (at a 45 or so angle from where you want to go) and because of math, you go faster!

[Anonymous No.3121068]

>>3120736
>step one
>play scythe map 28
>finish it
Congratulations, you've now mastered Doom movement

[Anonymous No.3121071]

>>3120907
that's the point, they're aim check. Besides what are you doing going into a room without your chaingun equipped?

[Anonymous No.3121083]

>>3121026

There's supposed to be more remixed maps in the next version so I expect more stuff along the lines of ad_dm1, ad_e2m2 and ad_e2m7

[Anonymous No.3121086]

>>3119065
I played through the first handful maps. Was going to play more, but MAP07 fucked my shit up.

>>http://pastebin.com/zvufCbMr

[Anonymous No.3121090]

>>3121026
>The level is obscenely long and all the backtracking for the tomes just kills me on it, which is sad because it's really impressively large and good-looking.
Crucial Error is by the same author and follows the same problems. If you want a smaller, more linear map that's even better looking, try Necromancer's Keep, it's my personal favorite.

[Anonymous No.3121096]

>>3120907
Well, what you're supposed to do is__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ git gud[/spoilera]

[Anonymous No.3121101]

>>3121096
Not him but chuckle/10

[Anonymous No.3121119]

>>3118584
hELP

[Anonymous No.3121132]

>>3121026
I like them, nothing is more fun than a 30 minute slog through 500 enemies in a tronyn map complete with hordes and ptsd.

[Anonymous No.3121134]

>>3120624
>>3120659
Looks exactly like Halo.

[Anonymous No.3121210]

>>3121119
CALL HER MOONCHIIIIILD
DANCING IN THE SHALLOWS
OF A RIVEERRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.3121219]

>>3120373

>"hey bro, can we change the way this is---"
>"[NO]"
>"wait, wait, allow me to elab--"
>" [ N O ] "

[Anonymous No.3121239]

>>3121210
<cue random notes for 10 minutes>

[Anonymous No.3121248]

>>3120405
Nice bait senpai.

[Anonymous No.3121256]

I can't believe I've never tried Strife before. It's pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.3121260]

I can't go back to ACC now. GDCC has won me over.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dee40c729601e892c94f28719e2ca5f8

Shit that ACC could never do that's in there:

- ENUMS
- STRUCTS
- THE STRUCTS HAVE FUCKING VOID POINTERS IN THEM
- THE PRINT STATEMENTS CAN HAVE ARBITRARY BEHAVIOUR IN THEM ASJHDASKJDH SO GOOD

I CAN DO OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING IN ACS JESUS CHRIST

****FUCK ACC****

[Anonymous No.3121282]

Why has no one made a fist-only wad where you play as Jeremy Clarkson punching out various producers (imps), late night talk show hosts (shotgunners) and BBC execs (mancubuses)?

[Anonymous No.3121284]

What are some PWADS similar to scythe and AV in terms of gameplay, but more so similar to DOOM episode 1 in terms of aesthetics?

[Anonymous No.3121298]

I'm new to Doom Builder 2. I'm retarded and have been trying to make this door work for a couple of hours. Doomguy doesn't UNPH up against it, but the door doesn't go up either. It only works with the basic door opening action, but any other doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.3121301]

So I made a very simple sound replacement wad for the player death and pain sounds. What do you guys think? http://www.mediafire.com/download/fqbpf73xt3sprl5/gachigasms.wad

[Anonymous No.3121314]

>>3121298
make sure the door is tagged, and that the line is marked as "player presses use" and "repeatable" and make sure the line triggers the right sector tag.

[Anonymous No.3121325]

[Anonymous No.3121329]

>>3121325
RIP Doom Episode 1.

[Anonymous No.3121338]

>>3121325
>Scientists expect the moon to be pulled apart in 30 to 50 million years.

lmaoooooooo

[Anonymous No.3121340]

>>3121314
Sweet
Thank you

[Anonymous No.3121346]

>>3117479
>doom shitters

[Anonymous No.3121350]

>>3121346
>quake douchers

[Anonymous No.3121351]

>>3121350
:(

[Anonymous No.3121352]

>>3121350

>duke pricks

[Anonymous No.3121356]

>>3121352
>marathon maggots

[Anonymous No.3121358]

>>3121356

>Wolfenstein weenies

[Anonymous No.3121359]

>>3121356
>blood faggots

[Anonymous No.3121365]

>>3121359
>>3121358
>>3121356
>>3121352
>>3121350
>mfw none of these have the ring of doom shitters/babbies
:^)

Only true things ring true 2bh

[Anonymous No.3121367]

>>3121359
hey hey hey
only games with avaliable source codes

[Anonymous No.3121368]

>>3121359
>blood faggots
>not blood summoners
You disappoint me, anon.

[Anonymous No.3121374]

>>3121367

[Anonymous No.3121386]

>>3120651
of course you do, shitter doom babby

reminds you of your og halo days eh?

[Anonymous No.3121390]

There is literally nothing worse in the history of 4chan than Doombabbies. Not even furries. Fact. Shit, not even neo /v/ COD maggots are as bad as you guys... though I suspect there's a large overlap between these two groups.

[Anonymous No.3121393]

>>3117669
Fuck off, they're still great to play.

>>3117652
>Eternal Doom isn't even especially good
Eternal Doom isn't for everyone, thanks to its puzzly elements and somewhat confusing layouts at times, but there are plenty of people who love that kind of stuff.

[Anonymous No.3121395]

/v/ shitposting again.

[Anonymous No.3121410]

What (canonical) Doom level would you want to live in?

[Anonymous No.3121416]

>>3121356
>pathways plebs

[Anonymous No.3121420]

>>3121416
>descent dumbasses

[Anonymous No.3121421]

>>3121410
None of them look particularly livable. Maybe the first map of Doom 2? Could make the big open area with the exit a sick living room with a big TV.

[Anonymous No.3121426]

>>3120736
>>3120748
here's a demo (-complevel 4, nomonsters), i tried to do this with no straferunning, you can just make it if you run at full speed.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=pz02it

[Anonymous No.3121442]

>>3117986
>That's kind of lame. I'd recommend doing ALWAYS pistol starts, and maybe using saves once or twice if the level is proving difficult. Doom is more fun that way, sometimes starting with SSG, RL, PR, etc. makes levels too easy

Not him, but the idea is that you are rewarded for surviving, and punished for dying. I get a greater sense of emotion playing this way, and I find it more fun because of it.

Pistol Starting every map regardless makes surviving and dying meaningless now, and makes me feel like I'm playing singular maps, rather than having a playthrough of a mapset. I don't really understand how this is more fun, but thats me.

[Anonymous No.3121445]

>>3121410
TNT MAP01.

[Anonymous No.3121450]

heres a doom 64 webm

[Anonymous No.3121454]

>>3121450
What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.3121457]

>>3121284
good question, i can't think of any. nobody seems to do E1-style maps that aren't as easy as the original. the classic episode (class_ep) - especially the original release (the one competn uses, not the rerelease which was made easier) can get quite difficult at times, but it also is not a pure E1 wad.

[Anonymous No.3121461]

>>3121442

It's because they give you too much ammo and weapons so if you survive too long, you end up having max ammo of everything. So every encounter is shoot them til they die.

Pistol starting means each map is a puzzle. Find the shot gun. Find the ammo. Avoid that enemy. Avoid those encounters you can't win right now. You die a few times and work out the path you need to take.

[Anonymous No.3121467]

>>3121450

Capture from a real console it seems.

Visually I don't care for Doom 64 at all. The environments are just shades of brown. The monsters are just awful.

[Anonymous No.3121469]

>>3121301
this contains three DS* lumps that replace player pain/death sounds. they all sounded like low pitched white noise that went on for half a minute. what's the point?

[Anonymous No.3121480]

>>3121450
I'm surprised at how fast this is. WHy did Doom 4 have to be so slow?

[Anonymous No.3121483]

>>3121450

Gotta love how tiny the collision size of the projectiles is in Doom 64

[Anonymous No.3121493]

>>3121480
its funny, the N64 input range is a 255x255 unit square box but a typical control stick can only access a circle with diameter of about 174 units around the center point. if you access beyond that limit by setting the neutral position of the stick to down and then holding up, you move significantly faster. doom 64 is the only N64 game I know of that does not have a hard limit on how fast you can go after exceeding typical control stick input range

after changing neutral and strafing at max speed, you can achieve almost exactly the same speeds (in units/second) in PC doom.

[Anonymous No.3121523]

>>3121469
That's strange, it works fine and does not sound like white noise when I use it in-game (though SLADE does not seem to properly play the sound files). Maybe the file got corrupted when I uploaded it to mediafire?

[Anonymous No.3121530]

>>3121461
>It's because they give you too much ammo and weapons so if you survive too long, you end up having max ammo of everything. So every encounter is shoot them til they die.

Keeping items from previous maps can indeed reduce the challenge of the next map. But, surviving an entire mapset through keeping items isn't anywhere near as easy as you're making it out to be. Especially when playing a hard mapset. When I was playing BTSX E2 recently, I was still dying quite a lot with my method.

[Anonymous No.3121535]

>>3121021

That'd be rad if I could figure it out

[Anonymous No.3121542]

... oh my fucking yes gdcc allows you to use function pointers.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/51c962908e5c59b06c3d991faae8e44b

man gdcc was a bitch to set up but holy fuck was this worth it

[Anonymous No.3121557]

>>3117479
>>>/vg/

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3121560]

>>3121557
Make us.

[Anonymous No.3121562]

>>3121410
The Factory from Doom II looks comfy

[Anonymous No.3121563]

>>3121365
>heretic heretics

[Anonymous No.3121571]

Would you prefer to be a high HP or a high damage monster?

[Anonymous No.3121575]

>>3121571
i always found glass cannons more fun to play than hp tanks

[Anonymous No.3121581]

>>3121410
E1M7: Computer Station. must be possible to run Doom on one of them. plus some nice outdoor views. and i could plant a garden in the nukage.

[Anonymous No.3121586]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44lhqrsUTlo

[Anonymous No.3121590]

3DO Doom overclocked. Pretty smooth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfNBQU2xjAI

[Anonymous No.3121591]

>>3121586
Classy

[Anonymous No.3121593]

>>3121590
Feels tanky as fuck

[Anonymous No.3121594]

>>3121586
Should have been called "Let's Get Romerotic"

[Anonymous No.3121602]

Did you notice that no id game has female enemies? Even Duke has chicks and stuff but no female monsters.

[Anonymous No.3121604]

>>3121602
first lost soul of doom 3

[Anonymous No.3121605]

>>3121602
Cacodemons are canon female

[Anonymous No.3121609]

>>3121605
citation needed

[Anonymous No.3121612]

>>3121602
>what are iron maidens

[Anonymous No.3121613]

>>3121602
Shadow Warrior has female ninjas

[Anonymous No.3121616]

>>3121602
i don't think most of doom's monsters really have a specific gender. i guess they're only male by default. who knows, i've not particularly thought about it, i just shoot at them.

[Anonymous No.3121619]

>>3121602
return to caste wolfenstein has female nazis
quake 2 has iron maidens

[Anonymous No.3121621]

>>3121602

[Anonymous No.3121629]

>>3121542
>man gdcc was a bitch to set up but holy fuck was this worth it
are you on windows? if so would you mind uploading your setup (unless it's not portable, or that's otherwise not feasible)

[Anonymous No.3121632]

reminder that
8>4
24>18
youtube.com/watch?v=JrHAMzV_OII

[Anonymous No.3121634]

>>3121629
nope, linux

have you taken a look at this though? http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49820

[Anonymous No.3121635]

>>3121634
I had not. That link looks to be exactly what I need. Thanks a ton.

[Anonymous No.3121636]

Has anyone made a "Don't talk to me or my son ever again" edit with Doom?

Maybe with a Baron and Hell Knight?

[Anonymous No.3121637]

>>3121636
Mastermind and Arachnotron

[Anonymous No.3121640]

>>3121637
Chaingunner and Shotgunner

[Anonymous No.3121641]

>>3121350
>Bloodbongs

I bet Blood fans all have bad teeth.

[Anonymous No.3121643]

>>3121602
>not having a headcanon

[Anonymous No.3121645]

>>3121619
RtCW wasn't made by id

[Anonymous No.3121682]

>>3117479
So, what's the best music quality for Chocolate Doom?

[Anonymous No.3121740]

>>3121682
I use the default quality. Sounds DOSy enough to me.

[Anonymous No.3121746]

>>3121636
the result of fucking around with xscale

[Anonymous No.3121748]

>>3121746
9/10

[Anonymous No.3121749]

>>3121746
I think the other Baron should be red too. This is based on that picture of the sausage dog right?

[Anonymous No.3121750]

>>3121682
pc speaker

[Anonymous No.3121752]

>>3121682
Doesn't Chocolate Doom support soundfonts yet?

[Anonymous No.3121760]

>>3121749
no, I was just trying to find a way to use translations to make a decent looking hell knight

[Anonymous No.3121767]

>>3121746
Made me laugh, good job anon

[Anonymous No.3121772]

>>3121749
>This is based on that picture of the sausage dog right?
i don/'t know, i'm not down with the latest memes.

[Anonymous No.3121795]

>>3121602

[Anonymous No.3121796]

>>3121795
But you meet the SM before you meet the Arachnotrons, so it makes zero sense??

[Anonymous No.3121860]

>>3121796
You meet the arachnotron first if you play on HMP or lower

[Anonymous No.3121861]

>>3121860
Doom 1 doesn't have arachnotrons

[Anonymous No.3121872]

>>3121861
Doom 1 does not have Spider Masterminds in the manual.

[Anonymous No.3121876]

>>3121872
You can't spoil the last boss

[Anonymous No.3121879]

>>3121876
Yeah, no shit. I think you missed the point, here.

[Anonymous No.3121881]

[Anonymous No.3121889]

>>3121796
What does meeting someone first have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.3121894]

>>3121749
>I think the other Baron should be red too

But it's his wife's son

[Anonymous No.3121895]

>>3121889
>you figured X had to come from somewhere
>X comes from Y
>you meet Y before you meet X

[Anonymous No.3121897]

>>3121795
I've always wondered what it'd be like if they could give birth to arachnotrons.

[Anonymous No.3121905]

Where do Mancubuses come from??

[Anonymous No.3121910]

>>3121905
ur mum lol

[Anonymous No.3121930]

>>3121750
What about the type? Midi and such

[Anonymous No.3121936]

>>3117669
MM feels almost like an iwad to me, so can't agree here.

Requiem is a bit hit and miss, but its hits are really great.

[Anonymous No.3121937]

>>3121936
90s megawads are best megawads.

[Anonymous No.3121940]

>>3117674
>Nice, Back to Saturn is kinda good too, the problem is that all levels looks the same and tries too hard to have the same gameplay as vanilla doom
It's X19999 times more difficult though

[Anonymous No.3121943]

>>3121937
Yeah, stuff like the MMs, Icarus, and Eternal Doom hold a special place in my heart. They always felt nicely varied in how they challenged the player.

[Anonymous No.3121952]

>>3117674
My problem with BTSX is that it goes a little too heavy on the Revenants at times

[Anonymous No.3121953]

>Monster Condo
>monster
>condo
>monster living in a condo
What the fuck this is some engrish-tier shit

[Anonymous No.3121957]

>>3117674
>the problem is that all levels looks the same

I still think this common complaint is a massive overstatement. E1 does sorta repeat a lot of its textures, but most of its layouts were pretty varied and distinguishable. And E2 was varied, even with its texture usage.

>tries too hard to have the same gameplay as vanilla doom
Say what?

[Anonymous No.3121958]

>>3121952
Really? Its usage of revenants didn't seem any different to most megawads.

Its liberal use of Arch-viles, especially in E2, is particularly interesting, though.

[Anonymous No.3121959]

>>3121952
>too heavy on the Revenants
>mfw

[Anonymous No.3121965]

does anyone have a link to the webms of the weapons in d44m?

[Anonymous No.3121968]

>>3121965
i think it's goatse .x

[Anonymous No.3121994]

>>3121282
They have to make Gachi doom first.

[Anonymous No.3121996]

What is the most /pol/ monster?

[Anonymous No.3122000]

>>3120624
>baddies trying to move and aim with a controller
It hurts to watch

[Anonymous No.3122010]

>>3121996
hitler?

[Anonymous No.3122020]

I'm trying to find the original release of Doom, aka v1. The one with the swastika on E1M4. Does anyone know where I can find it? My google skills are apparently failing me.

[Anonymous No.3122027]

>>3122020
That exists? I thought the doom with swastika was cut.

[Anonymous No.3122032]

>>3121590
Pretty bizarre to see 3DO Doom run at an acceptable framerate.

>>3121953
It's a condo where monsters live, what's so hard to understand?

>>3121996
SS Trooper

[Anonymous No.3122042]

>>3122020
you can get all the old shareware releases from idgames, in the historic subdirectory. shareware means E1 only of course, but that shouldn't be a problem since you want E1M4

[Anonymous No.3122058]

>>3121746
Kek

[Anonymous No.3122121]

>>3122042
wasn't the original level hosted on romero's site somewhere?

[Anonymous No.3122190]

>>3121602

KEIN DURCHGANG!

[Anonymous No.3122194]

>>3121602
>>3122190

I bet he's feeling pretty silly now.

[Anonymous No.3122205]

>>3121632
I fucking hated the whole quantity over quality mentality in the 90's, and how all the commercials and adverts were just them trying to get people to buy their product by seeing how hard they could kick the other company in the dick.
Not to mention that trying to shit all over DOOM is just a fucking dick move.

[Anonymous No.3122210]

>>3122205

The irony of the games shitting all over Doom in the 90s is that Doom is the one that's stood the test of time.

[Anonymous No.3122214]

>>3121602
I used to have distinct memories that Quake 2 had multi-breasted Strogg enemies but the internet has apparently decided I'm not living in that timeline anymore.

So what's the FPS with the multi-breasted enemies now? I need to know because...well you don't need why. Reasons.

[Anonymous No.3122217]

>>3122214
this is the only enemy like that i can think of off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.3122219]

>>3122214
The Skaarj Queen in Unreal?

>polygon boobs

[Anonymous No.3122240]

Quake GOG version vs Steam Version. Which is better /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3122241]

>>3122217

yo you could play the playstation with her nipples

[Anonymous No.3122246]

>>3122240
>paying for DRM
Unlike Steam, GOG actually sells games.

[Anonymous No.3122248]

>>3122240

[Anonymous No.3122253]

>>3121953

It's an apartment building that monsters have now infested. So it's called Monster Condo. Remember Doom 2 takes place on earth during a demon invasion.

[Anonymous No.3122257]

>>3122241

[Anonymous No.3122259]

>>3122253
Episode 3 is somewhere in Hell though

[Anonymous No.3122262]

>>3122217
>>3122219

I recall it looking like a hybrid Imp/Strogg with three breasts, I first saw it in an ad for what I thought was Quake 2 (obviously not). The ad was like a page ripped from a journal with little factoids the hero had learned and one of them was "Don't sleep with a (whatever), no matter how many breasts she has."

[Anonymous No.3122263]

>>3122259

Is it? I always thought that it was the more hellish and corrupted part of earth where the source of the invasion and leader was coming from.

[Anonymous No.3122265]

>>3122262
Racist desu

[Anonymous No.3122270]

>>3122263
>Nirvana
>Spirit World
It's also implied you need to go to the "other side" to close the portal.

[Anonymous No.3122271]

>>3122257
>not Cacomputer

[Anonymous No.3122273]

>>3122270

What does the intermission text say ?

[Anonymous No.3122279]

>>3122265
Speciesism

[Anonymous No.3122289]

>>3122273

"YOU ARE AT THE CORRUPT HEART OF THE CITY,\n"
"SURROUNDED BY THE CORPSES OF YOUR ENEMIES.\n"
"YOU SEE NO WAY TO DESTROY THE CREATURES'\n"
"ENTRYWAY ON THIS SIDE, SO YOU CLENCH YOUR\n"
"TEETH AND PLUNGE THROUGH IT.\n"
"\n"
"THERE MUST BE A WAY TO CLOSE IT ON THE\n"
"OTHER SIDE. WHAT DO YOU CARE IF YOU'VE\n"
"GOT TO GO THROUGH HELL TO GET TO IT?"

[Anonymous No.3122290]

>>3122289
All that for a bunny

[Anonymous No.3122292]

>>3122273

[Anonymous No.3122298]

>>3122273
"You are at the corrupt heart of the city, surrrounded by the corpses of your enemies.
You see no way to destroy the creatures' entryway on this side, so you clench your teeth and plunge through it.

"There must be a way to close it on the other side. What do you care if you've got to go through Hell to get to it?"

This plays between Gotcha! and Nirvana.

[Anonymous No.3122301]

>>3122290
And all of humanity, whatevs.

[Anonymous No.3122304]

>>3122301
Demons have feelings too bro

[Anonymous No.3122305]

>>3122290
I will never accept that as canon

[Anonymous No.3122306]

>>3122304
They can feel my hot bullets of shotgun to die.

[Anonymous No.3122307]

>>3122305
It was referenced twice in official releases. Lighten up, a little gallows humour doesn't ruin the game.

[Anonymous No.3122308]

>>3122306
WOW SO EDGY

[Anonymous No.3122313]

>>3122289
>pastes from the source code
>>3122292
>googles a screenshot
>>3122298
>typed it out from memory by the looks of it

interesting

[Anonymous No.3122314]

>>3122313
You want a smack in that smart mouth of yours?

[Anonymous No.3122315]

>>3122308
EDGE THIS!
*unzips dick*

[Anonymous No.3122327]

>>3122314
what is your problem.

i found the contrast of different ways the question was answered interesting.

[Anonymous No.3122328]

>>3122307
So what? Doesn't make it any less dumb. Like Midichloreans or whatever.

[Anonymous No.3122329]

>>3121530
that's because you're bad.

[Anonymous No.3122339]

>>3122328
Midichlorians were awful because they took a fancy mystic force that was essentially space wizardry and reduced it to pseudo-scientific nonsense.

Daisy is just a joke that doesn't hurt anything.

[Anonymous No.3122350]

How would you incorporate a super strong monster that's only capable of hand to hand attacks into Doom gameplay?

[Anonymous No.3122360]

>>3121530
well, there's not a great deal of difference if the map starts you off with a megasphere and all the guns. like Hell Revealed 24, the only thing you don't get immediately is a BFG.

a map which contains a battle that is hard enough that the mapper felt it necessary to give you a megasphere weapons and ammo right from the start will be just as hard as if you brought those resources with you from previous maps.

in short there is still some balance from the fact that your health armour and ammunition quantities all have an upper bound. you can't get more powerful than that certain level.

[Anonymous No.3122367]

>>3122360
>in short there is still some balance from the fact that your health armour and ammunition quantities all have an upper bound. you can't get more powerful than that certain level.
Which is why I hate the backpack and how it screws up ammo balance.

[Anonymous No.3122369]

>>3122248
that download link doesn't work

[Anonymous No.3122370]

>>3122339
Okay so you are fine with the rabbit. I still think it's dumb. We're not likely to persuade each other otherwise. Now what?

[Anonymous No.3122371]

Why aren't my shots hitting anyone in Wolfenstein TC? the fuck? Anyone else ever have this issue?

[Anonymous No.3122372]

>>3122328
Oh yeah, we wouldn't want anything stupid in a game where the final boss is a giant brain with tiny arms that shoots a minigun at you

[Anonymous No.3122374]

>>3122372
It's a spider bruv it doesn't have arms only legs

[Anonymous No.3122376]

Anyone have a scan of the Doom Playstation manual?

[Anonymous No.3122379]

>>3122374
Uh, excuse me but she's a brainkin, you insensitive shitlord

[Anonymous No.3122380]

>>3122379
Please consider suicide

[Anonymous No.3122385]

>>3122370
fight to the death

[Anonymous No.3122387]

>>3122379
wew lad

[Anonymous No.3122391]

>>3122380
Joke's on you anon
I already do

[Anonymous No.3122393]

>>3122391
You want to talk about it?

[Anonymous No.3122395]

>>3122372
I don't know, I think it fits quite well. It just needed to be a bit harder to kill, you shouldn't be able to get close to it and BFG it so easily.

[Anonymous No.3122402]

>>3122395
All Doom 1 monsters are easy as fuck one on one, it's either circlestrafe or stay away.

[Anonymous No.3122405]

>>3122393
Eh, probably not here, I already got one warning yesterday for posting D44M stuff.

I'd rather talk about Doom.

[Anonymous No.3122406]

>>3122402
Well, circlestrafing isn't so effective against hitscan attacks.

That said, E2M8 is harder, even pistol starting both. Because there is the risk of splash damage and errant lost souls. And E3M8 gives you plasma as well as rockets. E2M8 is easier with a plasma gun I find.

[Anonymous No.3122407]

>>3122405
Is this logo real
Because if it is I might kill myself

[Anonymous No.3122409]

>>3122405
Less dark thoughts, more making Doom maps.
Or just play really cool ones.

[Anonymous No.3122412]

>>3122409
you forgot to post the name

[Anonymous No.3122415]

>>3122409
>>3122412
>Overdose 2: Comatose (COMATOSE.WAD)
wow image search worked for once.
never mind.

[Anonymous No.3122417]

>>3122407
Nah, some anon made it a while back and I liked it.

>>3122409
Currently playing through Memento Mori 2
It's pretty cool, but I feel like MM1 was more ... cohesive? I dunno, some maps in MM2 have been a confusing or frustrating to navigate, and I've had a few instances where enemies just appear out of nowhere, no teleport sound, nothing.

Still, it's pretty fun, MM1 is one of the rare wads I actually finished

[Anonymous No.3122424]

So which items/monsters/powerups does Doom64 do better than Doom 1/2?

Personally I really like the Soulsphere and the minigun.

[Anonymous No.3122426]

>>3122417
i know what you mean, mm2 looks better but i don't enjoy replaying its maps as much as those in mm., they're fiddlier and don't flow as well or something.

[Anonymous No.3122432]

>>3122328
You not liking it is not the same as it not happening.

[Anonymous No.3122438]

>>3122424

Medkit and most of the power ups look better.

Most of the weapons look really good. But they're very futuristic. I like the less flashy Doom look. Also the 64 pistol is kinda crappy.

Monster srpites are just awful.

[Anonymous No.3122440]

>>3122350
By giving it lunge attacks and placing it in some kind of arena.

[Anonymous No.3122449]

>>3122438
I thought all of them looked better than their Doom 1 counterparts except for maybe the shotguns, but that's probably because there's no reload animation for either of them.

The Plasma rifle is pretty sweet though, I love that glowing tube in the middle.

As for the monsters, I think the zombiemen and imps look fine, Pinkies look a bit better (even though I'm fond of their original goofy look) and the Arachnotron looks pretty cool even if his death animation is lame. Cyberdemon, Cacodemon and Mancubus look terrible though

[Anonymous No.3122452]

>>3122449
>I thought all of them looked better than their Doom 1 counterparts except for maybe the shotguns, but that's probably because there's no reload animation for either of them.

Yeah that bugs me. It's just a floating gun. You can't see your hand gripping it. And you never reload.

I want a nice "Boom. Recock. Boom. Recock" flow.

[Anonymous No.3122456]

[notretro]Is the FPS genre dead? [/notretro]

[Anonymous No.3122458]

[Anonymous No.3122462]

>>3122456

Maze FPS are very dead.

Cinematic fps, military fps, etc are alive.

[Anonymous No.3122463]

>>3122458
Why the fuck is he talking about id Software
Why would any of these semen demons care about the developer of the game

[Anonymous No.3122468]

>>3122463
>>3122458

Doom is pretty unknown in Japan. I think it only got a Playstation and Saturn release. The DOS versions were never released there. And FPS have never been popular there.

[Anonymous No.3122471]

>>3122458

It's a pretty common mistake to show the Doom Marine as having an exposed abs as part of his uniform. That's actually a part that's torn off by a demon, not something that's part of his design.

[Anonymous No.3122472]

Why do people say the first FPS is Maze War when it's actually Spasim?

[Anonymous No.3122474]

>>3122463
>>3122468
>>3122471
I don't know about all that. I just saw and decided to share here a picture that combines two of my greatest loves: Doom, and cute anime girls.

[Anonymous No.3122475]

>>3122471
This is correct and it actually triggers me quite a lot.

[Anonymous No.3122478]

>>3122456
Wouldn't call it dead since we have stuff like Serious Sam 4, Doom4 and Shadow Warrior 2 coming out.

That being said there's definitely a lack of creativity out there, with all the recent reboots and whatnot.

And I wouldn't mind the reboots if they were closer to the original, but they're fucking not. Looking at you, Shadow Warrior

[Anonymous No.3122491]

>>3122472
Huh, didn't know that, I thought the first FPS was Hovertank 3D

[Anonymous No.3122494]

>>3122471

Even id made that mistake.

[Anonymous No.3122501]

>>3122494
Maybe he was transported to the Arena straight from his Phobos-Deimos adventure and didn't have time to repair his apparel.

[Anonymous No.3122507]

>>3122494
I think they made it like that because a lot of people didn't realize his shirt was just torn

[Anonymous No.3122508]

>>3122494
>>3122501

This is what I've always assumed.

[Anonymous No.3122525]

>>3122478
>And I wouldn't mind the reboots if they were closer to the original, but they're fucking not. Looking at you, Shadow Warrior
No, you don't want that. Look at Rise of the Triad. It's pretty accurate to the original game and it blows.

[Anonymous No.3122527]

>>3117479
>>>/vg/

[Anonymous No.3122528]

>man, y'know what would be awesome? if zdoom had lua!
>oh, hey, randy was going to implement it, yay
>... oh, graf shot it down because he doesn't like languages without braces.
>this was back in 2007

graf

how the fuck do you ruin everything so goddamn consistently

[Anonymous No.3122530]

>>3122527
>>>/trash/

[Anonymous No.3122549]

>>3122527
i dun gedit

[Anonymous No.3122554]

>>3122528
it apostrophe s true though full stop any language that spells out its punctuation comma like lua comma or ruby comma is hard to read full stop

[Anonymous No.3122570]

>>3122554
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7365088fbcb9090af1e553a37a396da6

compared to C++? hell no

[Anonymous No.3122601]

Is there a zandronum compatible alternative to smooth doom?

[Anonymous No.3122607]

>>3122570
oh well. i much rather have braces than "do", "then" and especially "end" sprinkled all over the place, cluttering everything up. it's punctuation.

[Anonymous No.3122618]

Ever since I played Darkness 1 and saw gameplay of Verdun and watched some WW1 documentaries. I've been wanting to create a map that looks like a WW1 battlefield, burnt/destroyed tree's, muddy as fuck, pools of dirty water, barbed wire hell, trenches, it'll be wide open. I just wanna know if people here would actually enjoy this? I'd go about adding in WW1 weapons and player skins etc eventually to. Fuck it basically a WW1 mod. Sound good or nah?

[Anonymous No.3122623]

>>3122618
Make it multiplayer oriented and lower player speed and we're good.

[Anonymous No.3122628]

>>3122623
Sure.

[Anonymous No.3122639]

>>3122618
I would play Doom Orchestra.

just add manual bolting/loading

[Anonymous No.3122646]

>>3122607
that's such a non-issue compared to how much more lua can do compared to ACS and DECORATE, and it's still speedy and small

anonymous functions in particular, the "..." parameter letting me easily make wrapper functions, and functions returning other functions, are just the fucking best

[Anonymous No.3122650]

>>3122639
Woah. What's that from?

[Anonymous No.3122665]

Why does my blue door work in Zandronum but not in GZDoom?

[Anonymous No.3122669]

>>3122665
I've heard from the DoomRPG dev that latest builds of GZDoom tend to be unstable.

[Anonymous No.3122675]

>>3122639
Looks cool but it's too dark to see anything.

[Anonymous No.3122681]

Has anyone ever made a monster from the ground up based on something from a horror movie?

I think this freaky thing from Xtro would be spooky

[Anonymous No.3122684]

>>3122650
MP project I'm working on, it's a remake of Space Station 13 for Z&. I'm honestly surprised by how functional it is myself, even though there's still a bunch of quirks that need ironing out. The rifle is loaded and bolted manually, and keeps track of the chambered round, which is meant to lay the groundwork for stuff like revolvers and magazines.

>>3122675
That's because there are no lights, the new station was thrown together in three hours and hasn't been furnished yet.

[Anonymous No.3122691]

>it's a level that throws you into a death trap that is impossible to avoid unless you know about the trap beforehand level

[Anonymous No.3122697]

>>3122691
>it's a level level

[Anonymous No.3122703]

>>3122684
Fucking keen, son.

[Anonymous No.3122704]

>>3122697

[Anonymous No.3122709]

>>3122691
>>3122697
>>3122704
>it's a level level about a level
>it's a level level level

[Anonymous No.3122715]

>>3122684
Looks good.

[Anonymous No.3122734]

>>3122684
that byond game?

[Anonymous No.3122754]

>>3122703
>>3122715
I really appreciate it, thanks.

>>3122734
The very same. I have a couple of different forks of the BYOND codebase as a reference, so most of the work is restructuring and redesign to make things work with Z&. There's a bunch of things that can't really be replicated 1:1, so I'm going through things in order of least to most complexity and seeing where it ends up.

[Anonymous No.3122760]

>>3122754
good luck man, that sounds cool

[Anonymous No.3122769]

>>3122691
if you play enough maps you can build up an intuition for these, and avoid them even without not having hindsight. the same way you can get a "nose for secrets"

[Anonymous No.3122772]

>>3122754
Might not be enough to fully re-create the game in 3d but it sounds like an awesome project all the same. Could be really cool.

[Anonymous No.3122794]

>>3122691
give a concrete example

[Anonymous No.3122795]

>>3122772
Yeah, the first bunch of releases are going to be lightweight compared to the original - one comparison I made earlier was "multiplayer System Shock 1". You can't spell SS13 without SS1 :^)

[Anonymous No.3122797]

Durex Waste Disposal Update:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u1ja3syodz63t7n/CLOSETV3.wad?dl=0
Final section is still WIP
As mentioned before, feedback and commentary are more than welcome
Also GZDoom may have issues with the blue key like I asked about in >>3122665

[Anonymous No.3122834]

>PSYCHOACTIVE
>BILE
>SPEW
That's fucking rad as shit.

Also
>Weaknesses: HAR, Chaingun
Holy shit, that's actually accurate to the original games.
Cacodemons got fucked by anything rapid fire, due to their pain state chance. That's awesome.

[Anonymous No.3122837]

This level took a while.

[Anonymous No.3122847]

>>3122834
Pretty sure the new Doom doesn't even have pain.

[Anonymous No.3122920]

Anyone else hate it when mods with new guns use sprites from call of duty games or games with realistic graphics? it just ain't right man.

[Anonymous No.3122925]

>>3122847
It's a real pain to play

[Anonymous No.3122928]

>>3122920
Yeah, if you gotta use model rips, you really should redraw them to make them not look like model rips.

[Anonymous No.3122931]

>>3122928
Yep

[Anonymous No.3122937]

>>3122847
It probably does, but it's handled differently.

[Anonymous No.3122965]

>>3122847
it's awesome how precisely wrong you are on that statement

[Anonymous No.3122969]

Something is wrong with the iwads link, it never fully downloads. It stalls at one spot and the download speed becomes worse than dial-up.

[Anonymous No.3122972]

>>3122969
i just downloaded them yesterday

[Anonymous No.3122980]

>>3122972
Is there a mirror of all the iwads in the op?

[Anonymous No.3123013]

Beyond the obvious "stop the demons" what the hell is the plot of Final Doom?

[Anonymous No.3123015]

>>3123013
Stop the demons, break the machines they corrupted and are using to get into this dimension.

It's not hard to look this up anon, there's really not that much plot and you can get this from the game itself as well

[Anonymous No.3123016]

>>3123013
isn't that the plot of every doom?

[Anonymous No.3123028]

>>3122639
>somewhere in there a changeling is hiding

FUCK

[Anonymous No.3123030]

>>3123013
TNT is set on Io, one of Jupiter's moons, and hell attacks. Plutonia, hell attacks earth once again, and hell has a gatekeeper or whatever.

[Anonymous No.3123084]

what is/how do you get ep in doom rpg?

[Anonymous No.3123093]

>You are missing obvious megawads on this list. Among them are, Holy Hell, Drown in Blood, Evil Star, Chillax and I know there is more. As far as I can tell there is no complete listing of megawads anywhere. This seems to be just your friends on the doom community.

Was this one of you guys?

[Anonymous No.3123095]

>>3123093
?????

also holyhell isn't a megawad, it's one map that got split up into four, so I have no idea what that guy is talking about

[Anonymous No.3123098]

>>3123095
Someone with no account added it to Doomwiki's Megawad talk page.

[Anonymous No.3123103]

>>3123093
>Chillax

Why anyone would think thats notable is beyond me. Its literally just a bunch of stolen maps with extra monsters mindlessly added in.

[Anonymous No.3123135]

>>3123013
TNT: Portals were opened but the invasion was contained so the demons used a spacecraft instead.

Plutonia: Some devices were intented to close portals but the demons just opened even more and one of them couldn't be closed.

[Anonymous No.3123139]

>>3123135
>so the demons used a spacecraft instead.

Demons can use a space craft? Are they from another planet?

[Anonymous No.3123145]

Is Dxtory working for anyone on GZDoom? please help

[Anonymous No.3123149]

>>3123139
They stole/corrupted it obviously

[Anonymous No.3123204]

>Final NeoDoom
goddamn if 'meh' could morph into a .wad form and distribute itself on /idgames, this'd be the shape it would take.

[Anonymous No.3123206]

>>3123204
>/idgames
*modDB
that's it, i'm off to bed

[Anonymous No.3123291]

>>3122468
>Doom is pretty unknown in Japan. I think it only got a Playstation and Saturn release. The DOS versions were never released there.
You are right about FPS not being very popular, but Doom actually has quite the cult following in Japan.
And both the DOS and Windows 95 versions were released boxed over there, as well. Doom 1.2 and Doom II 1.666 were released in both 5.25" and 3.5" diskette versions. 1.9 for both were released on CD-ROM.

But shortly before they got those versions, it was also released for the NEC PC-98xx computer systems over there. There was a variant of the Sound Blaster that used C-Bus instead of ISA that worked with it, but you could also use your own external hardware synth via MPU-401, or the many hobbyist music boards made for the system like the Spark Board, which did some badass FM music. From what I remember, the SETUP program was entirely Japanese, but the ingame menus were still English. I want to say the pickup/hud messages were translated. Don't remember if the endgame text was. I think it was.

[Anonymous No.3123324]

I'm pretty close to the point where it might be appropriate to ask for additional help on this.

The sprites -weapons and monsters- are so far largely unpolished (some are more finished than others, but most are in, anyway.
All the guns work, and only 1 still uses doom sprites.
All the monsters except the final boss are functional. Might make one additional monster.
Have some textures done, and some variants of each - Most can/will be made to order for mappers.

There's still a lot to do, but I'm curious if anyone here is any good at sound or music? There are some player grunts and stuff in that sound pretty okay, but weapons and effects are a bit beyond me. I know diddly tits about music as well... Any music-anons out there?

Once I get sprites a bit more polished, and the player portrait done, we can open it up to mappers as well.

[Anonymous No.3123334]

>>3123324
Wow, that's pretty sexy honestly. I've seen so much of vanilla doom textures that any new colors, textures, and sprites always jump out at me.

[Anonymous No.3123340]

is there an updated download for quake? can't torrent on uni wifi

[Anonymous No.3123350]

>>3123334
Thanks. This is my main test area. I've posted it before, but this time it has flags.

[Anonymous No.3123351]

>>3123334
I always loved how the barons just kinda fall apart when they die.

[Anonymous No.3123357]

>>3123291
>I want to say the pickup/hud messages were translated

I was right, they were.

[Anonymous No.3123362]

>>3123324

I like working with sound effects.
I'm working on my own game as well, but I wouldn't mind doing little bit of stuff for someone else. Sound design for me really isn't that time-consuming, depending on what kind of sound design you want.

I can't do music, though. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.3123372]

Okay guys, because I'm an idiot that doesn't know when to quit, I'm gonna make the big beam attack trigger these bombs in a third way.

I could do with some ideas, though I already know what I'm gonna do for the plasma bombs: orbiting beams that do ripper damage for even more ridiculous shredding.

So I need to think of some neat shit for the other three bombs, may as well go over what they do right now:

Normal bombs blow up in a star shape when the fuse runs out, and if you shoot it with the pistol it does a big explosion that does a disc of repulsion effect

Ballistic slugs scatter bullets when they explode, and if you shoot it, it jumps up and flies forward at a higher speed, detonating on impact with more shrapnel

fire bombs send out cluster bombs, and shooting it with the pistol makes the cluster bombs leave fire behind.

[Anonymous No.3123385]

>>3123362
Cool. You on the IRC at all?

[Anonymous No.3123398]

>>3123385

Yup. Or if you have Steam, you can add me.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997398297/

[Anonymous No.3123404]

>>3123350
Neat. Kinda makes me want to spruce up my test area. I'd offer help with sprites, but I'm barely able to keep up with my own project due to work schedules.

[Anonymous No.3123412]

>>3123398

Thanks I just emailed you a bunch of pizzas.

[Anonymous No.3123415]

>>3123398
faggot

[Anonymous No.3123416]

>>3123412

Awesome. I love pizzas.

[Anonymous No.3123443]

>>3123404
I plan on polishing the sprites myself, anyway, but thanks all the same ;-)

The only reason my test area is detailed at all is for texture testing.

[Anonymous No.3123447]

>>3123416
you wouldn't download a pizza

[Anonymous No.3123453]

>>3121645
It has ID in the credits, and on the case. It says ID had a part in the developed as well as producing it. so yeah, it was made by ID.

>>3122350
make it really fast.

>>3122618
sounds amazing. would play. have fun with all those slopes!

>>3122639
looking good, but it feels weird that he reloads with palm down. Most people work a bolt with the palm up.

[Anonymous No.3123474]

>>3123447
fuck you yes i would

[Anonymous No.3123497]

>>3123013
save the world. Same plot as every 90s action film.

Don't you know Carmack's thoughts on story?

[Anonymous No.3123509]

>>3123324
This looks helluva rad. Is it going to be a separate IWAD thing?

[Anonymous No.3123513]

>>3123453
>it was made by ID
More like "id looked at it and sait it was okay"

[Anonymous No.3123518]

>>3123324
>188% health

[Anonymous No.3123520]

>>3123518

That's 100% you KNAVE

[Anonymous No.3123525]

>>3123520
I know that. However, the zeros look like eights. It's bad design.

[Anonymous No.3123526]

>>3123518
you can clearly see an '8' on the left in the 48.

please be having a giggle.

dost though not know ye olde 0?

[Anonymous No.3123527]

>>3123525
I thought it was cool as fuck, and the element that really jumped out at me in the HUD. keep them!

[Anonymous No.3123529]

>>3122920
i don't think you need restrict your statement to those particular examples. any one graphic that clashes with the style of the rest of the game is an eyesore.

[Anonymous No.3123540]

>>3123526
Instead of horizontal - in the middle, I think / wouldve been much better.

[Anonymous No.3123560]

>>3123526
>you can clearly see an '8' on the left in the 48.
Hmm, I didn't notice that, it looks normal.

>dost though not know ye olde 0?
Not sure what you mean. Was zero historically written ⊕?

>>3123527
I think the horizontal bar is far too thick. The result is sufficiently 8-like to trip up the mind and become a distraction. That it really jumped out at you demonstrates this.

[Anonymous No.3123568]

>>3123372
maybe you could have the plasma bombs polarize monsters in a certain radius

i don't know if that's even doable, just a random thought

[Anonymous No.3123581]

Back when Battlefield 3 and 4 had been released, EA ran some various "This is Battlefield" contests where (IIRC) you'd send in gameplay clips and the best ones got featured in some promotional supercuts.

So what mods and wads would you guys showcase in a "This is Doom" promotional video?

[Anonymous No.3123597]

>>3123581
"This is Doom": TNT, BTSX 1/2, Valiant, Alien Vendetta, Realms of Cheogsh, Going Down, Speed of Doom, Requiem, Hell Revealed, Unloved, Hell Revealed.

"This is Doom Modding": Pirate Doom, MSX, Trailblazer, Dreadnought, Demonsteele, GMOTA, Russian Overkill, DoomRLA+DoomRPG, Reelism, Adventures of Square, Project Brutality.

[Anonymous No.3123605]

>>3122525
The original RoTT wasn't that good to begin with

[Anonymous No.3123612]

>>3123324
Looks great friend

What kind of music are you looking for? Do you have any references you can link to?

>>3123518
>>3123526
It read like 100% to me at first sight, seems pretty clear

[Anonymous No.3123618]

>func_water isn't a vanilla engine thing until quake 2
>can't flood an area with actual water

Fug

[Anonymous No.3123623]

>>3123618

has anyone just made doom mods in quake engines?

[Anonymous No.3123626]

>>3123623
Possibly, but what's the point? Different games with different engines that play to different strengths- something super complicated and impressive in Doom might be five minutes to make in Quake, or it might be totally impossible without extensive QuakeC editing.

Making new stuff for Quake is also a bit harder in general due to the lack of sprite-based objects meaning you can't just use an editor and MSPaint to make new enemies/pickups/weapons/HUDs/etc.

Remaking E1M1 in Quake seems to be popular, though, lots of people have done it themselves and Arcane Dimensions includes a version.

[Anonymous No.3123664]

>>3123605
It was alright. Don't h8.

[Anonymous No.3123669]

>>3123612
Thanks buddy
Kinda hexen/heretic-ish I think is probably what I'm looking for. Not so much doom. I'll see if I can find some decent examples tomorrow after sleep and work.

>>3123509
thanks
vanilla compatible dehacked doom pwad. Assuming choco-doom is vanilla enough. I haven't patched an exe in dosbox yet. probably should at some point.

>>3123525
solar crosses. same thing diablo did (though it does muddy their text a bit more imo), and it fits with my theme. I think it's clear enough, but you can't please everyone, and I don't intend to try.

[Anonymous No.3123671]

>>3123664
I guess, but I would have rather seen a Heretic reboot

[Anonymous No.3123678]

>>3123671
ROTT is an entirely different beast. it was made using the Wolfenstein 3D engine if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.3123680]

>>3123678
Yes but the reboot has verticality so it doesn't matter.

But then again it'd be weird playing a modern game with only horizontal mouselook

[Anonymous No.3123701]

>>3123669
You can make it an IWAD then.

I don't remember what you have to do for that though,but iirc Adventures of Square did it, making it a standalone freeware game.

If you suddenly decide to use GLOOM you can even attempt to sell it to indie-loving newfags

[Anonymous No.3123704]

>>3123680
Original ROTT had some verticality via jumppads
Remake is pretty faithful in that regard.
Also I quite enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.3123709]

>>3123704
I also enjoyed it but the platforming really killed it for me.
I just don't like platforming in a fast paced shooter like this.

[Anonymous No.3123717]

>>3123372

alright fuck it that was a bad idea, let's do THIS instead

[Anonymous No.3123740]

So I replayed through the entirety of Heretic and I have to say I'm pretty surprised at all the hate the level design gets. I've seen lots of people saying the level design is boring as fuck, but I honestly think it's very pretty and the levels are interesting to explore.

I had fun.

They're way better than Sandy Petersen's DooM II offerings at the very least.

[Anonymous No.3123742]

>>3123717

So there's a problem with the plasma bombs

they're garbage against hardier monsters.

[Anonymous No.3123748]

>>3123740
Level design in Raven games was always good, the problem is that Heretic has less textures, and as a result less variety in map design.

[Anonymous No.3123751]

>>3123742
damagefactors

[Anonymous No.3123759]

>>3123751

I dunno man I don't want to dip into that if I can avoid it. I mean yeah I want to alter monster behavior a little but...

[Anonymous No.3123760]

NEW THREAD

>>3123756
>>3123756
>>3123756

[Anonymous No.3123762]

>>3123740
It's just that there isn't many textures and levels start looking samey enough that I just don't wanna play anymore. I do love the dungeons and dragons style fantasy take on Doom though.

[Anonymous No.3123901]

>>3123740
I never had a problem with Heretic's maps, my main gripe is how the weapons feel

[Anonymous No.3124006]

>>3123623
Generations 2 could count; it got Foxed because of the translation of non-Q2 enemies and levels into Q2.

[Anonymous No.3124203]

>>3121749

[Anonymous No.3124276]

>>3123404
Hey you, the guy who was gonna mesage you about the stealth system here. I didn't forget you, I just caught a terrible cold which combined with a manual labour job means I've felt like a "former human" every afternoon this week

>>3123324
I know virtually nothing about sounds, but might I suggest this pack:
>http://www.sonniss.com/gameaudiogdc2016/
and also check out OpenGameArt. You'll probably want to look into some kind of batch downsampling program if you want the sounds to be muddy like back in -93.

.

[Anonymous No.3124919]

>Romero praises the design of Dead Simple