Emulation

[Anonymous No.3116615]

Why is the emulation on every system besides pc such a pile of shit?
Played SMW on my psp 3000 with the most well known snes emulator.
After taking the time to adjust settings, being playing for a while before reaching Ludwig's castle. And when i reach him, graphical glitches start.
Lovely.
I can't see the fireballs.

So, and this goes to all the cunts that say that emulation on psp or 3ds is perfect, have you ever finished a game in any of those systems?
Any fucking game?

[Anonymous No.3116624]

>>3116615
This is why I have a Windows tablet.

The convenience of a portable screen mixed with the quality of PC emulation.

[Anonymous No.3116625]

>>3116615
SNES emulation was never perfect on the PSP.
Try GBA version.

[Anonymous No.3116626]

SNES emulation on PSP sucks.

I've finished many NES and Genesis games on my PSP, those emulators run almost flawlessly, but for some reason, not the SNES.

[Anonymous No.3116627]

>>3116625
This.
I only ever had Genesis and SNES emulators on mine. Didn't even consider SNES because of the problems I'd heard.

[Anonymous No.3116628]

>>3116627
>I only ever had Genesis and NES* emulators on mine

[Anonymous No.3116635]

board

[Anonymous No.3116645]

>>3116625

seriously?
GBA actually emulates snes well?

[Anonymous No.3116647]

>>3116645
GBA has port of SMW.

[Anonymous No.3116651]

the wii seems fine

[Anonymous No.3116657]

>>3116651
I emulated on the PC for years; NES, SNES, and Genesis.

Hadn't had a single problem with any of it with the exception of the SNES version of Earthworm Jim (and I prefer the Genesis version anyway). Shit was so cash.

[Anonymous No.3116659]

>>3116651
I emulated on the Wii for years; NES, SNES, and Genesis.

Hadn't had a single problem with any of it with the exception of the SNES version of Earthworm Jim (and I prefer the Genesis version anyway). Shit was so cash.

[Anonymous No.3116672]

>>3116651
Wii emulation is fucking great for the native resolution options

Playing that shit on a CRT is the closest thing to having the console itself

[Anonymous No.3116680]

>>3116672
Exactly. Those were the fucking days. Then my wii died.

[Anonymous No.3116682]

>>3116651

but i have to jailbreak it right?

[Anonymous No.3116689]

>>3116682
letterbomb has made that shit is easier than ever.

[Anonymous No.3116692]

>>3116682
There are about a thousand different ways to softmod a wii.

It makes psp modding look hard.

[Anonymous No.3116698]

>Why is the emulation on every system besides pc such a pile of shit?
Because accurate emulation requires a stronger processor than other devices have.

[Anonymous No.3116701]

>>3116672
mfw i first heard about wii softmods

[Anonymous No.3116704]

>>3116701
mfw I was playing R@RE games for free an hour or so later.

had to twilight hack back then

[Anonymous No.3116706]

>>3116698
Except for the Wii.
I just don't get the Wii's sorcery. Is its processor exceptionally good?

[Anonymous No.3116713]

>>3116706
The Wii is not capable of running accurate emulators. The Wii has the capabilities of a 15 year old PC at best.

[Anonymous No.3116715]

>>3116706
might have something to do with the wii's backwards compatibility and the gc gameboy player.

wii is backwards compat with gc, gc was designed to play emulated games smoothly.

[Anonymous No.3116716]

>>3116713
And yet it does anyway. Fucking magic.

[Anonymous No.3116717]

>>3116713
post a hardware screen and compare it to
>>3116651
I'm curious to see the difference

[Anonymous No.3116718]

>>3116713
>The Wii has the capabilities of a 15 year old PC at best.

True.

>The Wii is not capable of running accurate emulators.

False.

[Anonymous No.3116719]

>>3116717
So am I.
The fact that I need a side-by-side comparison is still very fucking impressive considering the hardware.

[Anonymous No.3116720]

>>3116718
Show me a Wii with the shadow of the aircraft in Air Strike Patrol, the gold standard for testing SNES emulator accuracy.
Not even to consider more advanced systems like the PS1.

[Anonymous No.3116725]

>>3116704
I was lucky enough to have gotten a wii from my cousins who "upgraded" to an xbox 360. They never updated it at all, so years after the Twilight hack was rendered obsolete, it ended up being my only option.

Pretty fucking spooky hack, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.3116728]

>>3116720
you can pop ps1 games in a ps2 or 3, also load images if either is moddeed.

hang on I'll give it a try

[Anonymous No.3116738]

>>3116720
This is the only stupid game that relies on very high accuracy. All other games dont need that high level of emulation at all.

[Anonymous No.3116745]

>>3116682
It literally takes about 5 minutes to hack a Wii, I got one at a thrift store for $10, hooked it to a CRT and now it's the best retro game experience I've had in years.

[Anonymous No.3116751]

>>3116728
here

>>3116720
you were right no shadow.

heres what I was missing though

a.s.p. on a snes

[Anonymous No.3116752]

>>3116751
snes jr. doesnt display shadow either, game seems kinda neat though

[Anonymous No.3116753]

>>3116718
What can the Wii emulate well? I suppose 8- and 16-bit consoles, but what about N64 (or even Saturn)? Do you need to get the VC executables, or can you just pop in roms/isos from emuparadise?

I hardly ever use my Wii anymore, this seems like a good excuse to boot it up again. Besides, if Homebrew is so easy I might get to play some GC games I missed, like Baten Kaitos.

[Anonymous No.3116754]

>>3116720
>it can't show a shadow on an exceptionally high-end SNES

Well, I guess that just ruins every game, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.3116758]

>>3116615
get JXD S7800B and emulate everything you want without problems.

[Anonymous No.3116759]

>>3116753
I just downloaded the VC executables. Never even tried to look for an N64 or Saturn emulator.

Make sure to get a decent flash drive for GC games and you should be good. DIOS-MIOS can't run every GC game, but it runs damned near all of them, and the team is still active I think.

[Anonymous No.3116760]

>>3116647
>>3116645

i played a tonne of SMW on gba emu on psp, works absolutely fine. fyi, i think its called SM advance 4 on gba.

and snes emu isnt as bad as some people on here make it out to seem. fiddle around with the settings if your getting issues.

[Anonymous No.3116765]

>>3116751
>>3116752
i need to stop typing though, though. a little drunk
>>3116754
the game was perfectly playable without the little gray square, had >>3116720 not mentioned it I wouldnt have noticed i was missing anything,

[Anonymous No.3116769]

>>3116765
Sounds accurate enough for me.

[Anonymous No.3116792]

>>3116765
if the rivets were missing from the [?] in mario the game would still playy fine and if it bothered me that much I'd just buy it.

thesse kinds of things might be important to some but at the price i paid, its trivial.

[Anonymous No.3116794]

>>3116754
It's the main notable difference between Bsnes accuracy and Bsnes balanced.
And the requirements aren't really that high end nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3116821]

>>3116792
The Strike games are better isometric flight sims anyway.

[Anonymous No.3116829]

>>3116821
Triple Strike: Life behind bars
>the sequel to Wife Strike

had the first two growing up good fun

[Anonymous No.3116830]

>>3116829
Rented Jungle Strike all the time when I was a kid.
Lucky enough to own Urban Strike. Goddamned helicopter masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.3116846]

>>3116760
>fyi, i think its called SM advance 4 on gba.
SM advance 2.
SMA4 was SMB3.

[Anonymous No.3117310]

>>3116615
You picked the one system the psp can't emulate for shit. For whatever reason it has terrible snes emulation, but for playstation, genesis/md, nes, gameboy/gba, cps1 and cps2, neo geo, etc. emulation is spot on.

[Anonymous No.3117706]

>>3116821
>tfw you own all three

I'm not even into these games but you have to admit these were quality games back in the day.
And then they had to mess it all up in the 3D era.

[Anonymous No.3117709]

>>3117706
>And then they had to mess it all up in the 3D era.
Story of my life.

[Anonymous No.3117713]

So what's the psp's problem with snes games? A port of a pc emulator?

[Anonymous No.3117730]

>>3116717
>>3116719
Wow finally someone might be truly interested in the comparison shots I took for /crt/ two and a half years ago after I got my first two 13" Trinitrons.

>>/vr/thread/S941195#p968098

[Anonymous No.3117740]

Input and output were identical but the Wii is cycle inaccurate by as much as 3% (attract modes become noticeably out of sync within a few minutes)

[Anonymous No.3117754]

>>3116615

Haven't used PSP for emulation in a while but last I remember, the SNES emulator for it was always utter shit. Every other emulator including PSX ran perfectly.

I'm investing in an android tablet and a MOGA controller for my emulation.

[Anonymous No.3117757]

>>3117730
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3119140]

>>3116701
Oh hey. You are the cozy attack guy. Lol is that your son?

[Anonymous No.3119142]

>>3116615
>Why is the emulation on every system besides pc such a pile of shit?
because you're a big faggot who loves to complain

[Anonymous No.3119179]

>>3116758
just a side note to add on, only get the JXD 7800b if the GPD XD is more expensive,as the GPD XD is a superior device with a smaller screen

[Anonymous No.3119460]

>>3116615
What's the best Genesis emulator for PSP? Dgen seems to only run like half the games...

[Anonymous No.3119490]

>>3116715
>might have something to do with the wii's backwards compatibility and the gc gameboy player.
Doesn't the Wii offer legacy games in an online store or something?
That's why you can emulate psx on psp so well, sony wanted to put psx classics in the ps store so they built in an emulator and people found out how to use it with any game.

[Anonymous No.3121072]

>>3119460
picodrive

[Anonymous No.3121917]

I'm really sorry to ask this question, but I haven't fucked with MAME in like five years. Downloaded the newest build and I'm familiarizing myself with everything again.

Question is - auditing roms, where do you do this? The GUI that opens up doesn't appear to recognize right-clicks and I'm not seeing an option onscreen, either. I also looked through .txt files to see if anything was mentioned about audits. Nope. Trying to play Donkey Kong, made sure to download the parent first and all related files. Also, will MAME be able to read rom files if you have them organized in their own folders within its rom folder? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.3121949]

>>3121917
In the standard ui, I don`t know. commandline is possible or use a build that has some gui or a frontend (mameUI for example). there are plenty. use clrmame, romcenter or romulus if you need to audit and fix roms or dl current romsets that don`t need fixing.

[Anonymous No.3121951]

>>3121917
unpacked roms in folders are recognized I think, but usually its /roms/game.zip or for chd, /roms/game/game.chd

[Anonymous No.3121956]

I have a Xperia Z1 phone. It has native support for Dual Shock 3.
All I had to do to get a retro portable was a $5 clip to hold the phone. Feels good.

Then, besides my PC which is connected to an HDTV, I have the Wii to emulate on a CRT. I only wish it had better arcade support though, I have my PS2's HDD full of arcade collections and fighting game ports because of this.

[Anonymous No.3124446]

>>3116651
Wii SNES emulation is far from perfect. Great for NES and Genesis, though. Or SNES if you don't care about it being subpar.

[Anonymous No.3124460]

>>3116615
They're all like this unless you get into dedicated "open source" handhelds. Finished tons of games on the Pandora and GCW-Zero. I prefer native hardware when I can, Pandora does up through PSX perfectly (and has the best PSX emulator I've used period - easy as fuck to use, accurate as hell, nice graphical improvements). GCW's good for everything through Sega CD. Apparently GPD XD's alright too, I just don't really trust the build quality or Android's ability to emulate well (use to have bad input and sound lag issues, and since Android users love eating shit idk if that ever got fixed).

[Anonymous No.3125157]

This seems like the best place to ask, so what's the best way to emulate Neo Geo games? I already have MAME, and supposedly the Neo Geo home console is the same as the arcade boards, but maybe something else is more performant?

The built-in copyright warnings for MAME also freak me out a little.

[Anonymous No.3125184]

>>3125157
Neo Rage X is the best, stop using MAME.

[Anonymous No.3125245]

>>3125184
Thanks mang, I take it MAME has poor performance since it started out as a modeling project?

[Anonymous No.3125248]

>>3125245
That's exactly right.

[Anonymous No.3125265]

>>3121956
>ds3

[Anonymous No.3125313]

>>3125184
>Neo Rage X
2003 is long gone, anon

[Anonymous No.3125329]

>>3116647
that version of the game sucks. it's not a port, they reworked the engine and changed shit around.

[Anonymous No.3125365]

>>3125313
Anon who asked here, I'm probably gonna have to use something else, as much as I like the user interface.

>doesn't work with .bin files
>everything I can find is a .bin

Fuck it, I'm using Final Burn Alpha, it seems to be the only non-MAME option that isn't fundamentally sketchy.

[Anonymous No.3126353]

>>3121956
Well in the photo it's a Xperia Z3 and a DS4, but you get the idea. If you don't, you're an asshole.

[Anonymous No.3127409]

>>3116625
Even then, sometimes the PSP just doesn't have enough power for GBA games. Golden Sun lags a ton with those particle effects in fights.

[Anonymous No.3129713]

>>3116615
What you're experiencing is snes emulation being shit on anything other than PC.

Other than N64 and Snes it's a good emulator for GBA, PS1, and everything before.

[Anonymous No.3130715]

>lent my Wii to my brother because I have a Wii U
>had the vWii softmodded
>suddenly I can't run any Wii or GCN games on it from USB
>can't figure out why despite hours of troubleshooting
At least it's an okay emulation machine.

[Anonymous No.3130768]

>>3116615
because only pc has a generic-purpose cpu and flexible enough architecture to facilitate it.

Consoles are optimized at hardware level towards specific range of tasks, and emulating a completely alien hardware architectures is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.3131545]

>>3116821
Yeah but they were just Zaxxon clones.

[Anonymous No.3131562]

>>3131545
But Zaxxon is awesome...

[Anonymous No.3131682]

>>3117730

Thanks Anon. Those make for interesting viewing.

I only recently discovered the Wii's potential as an awesome emulator machine. I had one gathering dust because, like many others, I had discarded the possibility of it ever being useful many moons ago. /crt/ showed me the light, I got an RGB cable for it, and baby retro emulation has never felt so good.

I don't have any original hardware these days so your gallery is of great interest to me to see what/if I'm missing by doing my retro Wii style.

[Anonymous No.3131685]

>>3116682
From what I understand it's just
>get a Wii with SD Card
>put a homebrew folder and emulators on SD card with a computer
>goteem

[Anonymous No.3132126]

since these are pretty much the only threads that talk about PSP on 4chan:
My PSP's battery is dying but I don't want to buy a fake one (they always claim to have a higher capacity and run out of power before saving my game to NAND), does anyone know if I can still get Sony batteries?

[Anonymous No.3132132]

PSP is great for emulating CERTAIN systems. I have got a fat one so I can hardly emulate SNES. It is just not fast enough. Is the 3000 faster? I mean I know that it is faster but does SNES emulation run fast enough on it? I gave up on my 1000. NES and GB emulation works just great so this is all that I play. GBA is also okay but not every game works. I just had trouble with Zelda on SNES so I would play the GBA port on my PSP.

[Anonymous No.3132156]

>>3132132
>I know that it is faster but does SNES emulation run fast enough on it?
I suppose it's not better much.
I have 3000 and I gave up with SNES emulation.

[Anonymous No.3132353]

Why not get an NVidia Shield? Isn't that made to be just an emulation machine?

[Anonymous No.3132369]

>>3132132
This thread made me put picodrive on my 2001.
So far, all 41 Genesis games I put on it run fine.

Just having Genesis, NES, GBA/GB, and PS1 titles all available on one portable system makes the PSP a god damn god among men. Don't mind that it can't do SNES. When it can do all the aforementioned.

[Anonymous No.3132447]

>>3116753
I have an N64 emulator Nd some games are buggy. It's not flawless but some games are good

[Anonymous No.3132448]

>>3116759
Dios mios is obsolete now, use Nintendont

[Anonymous No.3132460]

>>3131685
Not quite, you do still have to install Homebrew Channel and a custom OS but Letterbomb makes it happen in 30 seconds

[Anonymous No.3132573]

Why can't I get a single good Saturn emulator?

[Anonymous No.3132574]

>>3116615
Modern emulation is obsessed with cycle accuracy (which a player won't even notice) that's extremely CPU intensive. When they try to port these emulators to handhelds/SBCs, it's an ugly process of trying to strip deeply embedded features that never gives good results.

[Anonymous No.3132581]

>>3116625
this
psp was perfect at emulating nes and gba games and even ps1 games ran better than snes for some reason that i don't know

[Anonymous No.3132594]

>>3116615
Is there a list of emulators for psp that run close to perfect? Gonna post a link if I find a source in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.3132692]

>>3132132
3000 definitely isn't faster in any significant way, improvements are marginal. The PSP's really only great for PS1. GB/C, and Genesis. NES's decent but has some minor glitches, GBA's got some sound bugs and the like.

>>3132581
>even ps1 games ran better than snes for some reason that i don't know
Because Sony wrote the PS1 emulator, so they had all the knowledge and documentation that they needed.

Even then it's not completely perfect or accurate. Some games (Dragon Warrior VII) take a bit of work to get going on it because they technically wrote several revisions of the emulator that got pushed out with different updates and were intended to be used with different games.

If you're new to the handheld emulation scene keep in mind that the PSP has its reputation because for the time it was really cool. For the time, it was mindblowing that a super common device (aka something you didn't have to import from dodgy sites) could do all of this at what could be considered an acceptable level. SNES was worked on to a level of "good enough" and ran a lot of the lower-spec games with only minor issues that people ignored because hot damn, portable SNES. Genesis just has fantastic documentation, so people have been working on super-optimized emulators for the system for years. It would be more shocking if the PSP didn't end up with a great Genesis emulator.

[Anonymous No.3133018]

>>3132692
Well, if PSP wasn't based on PSX hardware, it would be hard to write a good emulator.
We can't play PS2 games on Vita.