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3113335 No.3113335 [Reply] [Original]

>You will run out of retrogames in your lifetime

>> No.3113358

Only if people stop making videogames.

>> No.3113363

You must have a lot more free time than I do. Fuck, I was just looking at ONLY the ExoDOS RPG collection musing on how even if I live to be 120 I'll die without ever even seriously playing most video games, let alone completing them.

Then I started contemplating if there was more virtual space within video games than there is actual space in the world/universe when including grand-scope space games.

Then I smoked a blunt.

>> No.3113365

I actually did the math and there's more stuff that I'm interested in then I have free time left to play.

>> No.3113372

>>3113335
not if you learn japanese/ baka redditor

>> No.3113382

>>3113358
No, we are not having this conversation again.

>>3113363
I'm not into RPGs that much sadly, so that shortens the time gap a lot and I can live 40-45 years more if I play my cards right.

>> No.3113387

>seeing them as "retro games"

I grew up playing these games and there's still ones that I haven't discovered yet. Even if I play all of the old games I ever wanted, there's usually 4 or so new games coming out every year that I want.

>> No.3113408

>>3113382
>We're not having this conversation again.


Yes. We are. You can't tell me, without sounding like a fucking retard, that 100 years from now only games made in <1999 are retro.

>> No.3113417

>>3113408
>You can't tell me, without sounding like a fucking retard, that 100 years from now only games made in <1999 are retro.
Way to miss the point. I don't care about the label, I care about games made in <1999.

>> No.3113424

>>3113382
>No, we are not
>>3113408
>Yes. We are.
I-is this gonna turn into one of my chinese girl comics

>> No.3113435

Like hell I will. It takes me a month to get through one game.

>> No.3113443

>>3113335
That's ok, I have retro books and retro music to consume. And not even with 5 clones of myself reading books everyday I would finish all possible retro gbooks.

>> No.3113465

>>3113335
How exactly is that supposed to happen? Did the school bullshitter tell you a game self destructs when you finish it or something?

>> No.3113831
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3113831

There's no fucking way.

If you have varied tastes, you will never get through everything there is to play. And if you do, you'll be able to move on to games that will be retro by that point (PS2 era, then the handful of games worth playing from the 7th gen and beyond).

And THEN at that point you'll probably have forgotten all about a lot of the games you already played, so you'll be able to play them again as if it was your first time, or replay them with different characters, to get different endings, to get a 100% playthrough, to beat them without using continues, etc.

TL;DR It's all good, feels guy. R3TR0 4 LYF3

>> No.3113921

literally impossible.

>>3113831
this, there are a metric fuckton of games for the ps2 in particular. i honestly doubt you could literally nonstop play the games on that console's library the whole way through and finish them in like 20 years.

>> No.3113924

>>3113417
>I care about games made from 1972 to 1999, instead of games made from 2000 to 2100

>> No.3113928

>>3113363
>how even if I live to be 120 I'll die without ever even seriously playing most video games, let alone completing them.

but why would you want to play most video games, let alone complete them? Most video games are shit. You must have incredibly low standards.

I mean, sometimes I hear people talking like "Yeah man, the NES has like a thousand games or something. You'll never run out of NES games to play!" The thing is, how many of those games are actually good? Maybe 80 or 90, probably not even that.

So I mean, yeah, you can waste your time playing your shitty mascot bandwagon games to completion, or you can play the minority of games that are actually good. Because I hate to be a debbie downer, but most games are not good. But if you do have low standards and are able to get enjoyment out of bad games, then more power to ya man. Then you truly won't run out of games to play.

>> No.3113929

I have enough time to play all my favorites twice. You learn a lot more the second time

>> No.3113931
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3113931

>>3113831
>move on to games that will be retro by that point

Games don't magically become "retro", they either are or they aren't. 7th gen will never be retro and it's not a sliding scale. Retro has been defined as pre-2000 and it will always stay as thus.

>> No.3113932

>>3113931
>7th gen will never be /vr/ and it's not a sliding scale. /vr/ has been defined as pre-2000 and it will always stay as thus.

FTFY.

>> No.3113935

>>3113928
"musing" doesn't mean I'm upset about it
take a pill

>> No.3113949

>>3113335
Good thing I can play games more than once huh

>> No.3113967

>>3113924
Maybe you should expand your horizon and play games from the time before Pong.

>> No.3113979

>>3113932
In the late 80s a retro gamer was someone who still played 2600 games. In the late 90s a retro gamer was someone who was still playing NES games. In the late 2000s, it was someone who was still playing Playstation games. In the late 2010s, retro gaming will be playing Playstation 2 games. In the late 2020s, Retro gaming could include all console based gaming.

Perfect vr, digital simulations of reality, true AI, these kinda game changers will all eventually happen, and will change the era of gaming, eclipsing all previous tech. If you live long enough you'll experience gaming without keyboards or controllers, where the goal is to take the longest possible time to count to one, and you have to do it in the least efficient way.

>> No.3113983

>>3113928

Even if you just play the ones that are almost universally considered "good", that's still a massive list if you consider every platform.

Then there are the countless games that are decent/interesting, so they're worth experiencing for a while, but not necessarily worth beating. A lot of games might not be the greatest, but you'll still have to play them for a bit to get an idea of whether you like them, see if despite their flaws they still have something interesting to offer. I just played Abadox for NES, and while I wouldn't call it a great shmup at all, I still had my fun with it for ~30 minutes. Even games that are otherwise mediocre can have some good bits that make them worthwhile, especially if you're playing with someone else.

>>3113931
>Retro has been defined as pre-2000

By /vr/ sure.

I'm just saying that even if by some miracle someone can play every game worth playing ever made before 2000 (unlikely), there will always be more old games to play, even if they're not quite as old. Stuff like F-Zero GX, God Hand, Onimusha, Silent Hill 2, Ikaruga, Mother 3 or Jak & Daxter, and so much of what you saw during the PS2 era (when genres like platformers, survival horror, racers, beat 'em ups, JRPGs, etc. were still plentiful and popular) has a lot more in common with my idea of oldschool gaming than what came after.

>> No.3113984

>>3113979
Why the fuck did you reply to me?

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3114006

Nah hardly anyone has the time to play all of these games, and this is just NES alone. Chances are if anyone tried, they'd end up spending more time with one or a few others, trying to beat them. Great games in general should have a high replayability

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3114010

>modern games will be considered retro before you know it

>> No.3114251

Even if you exhaust every single console game, there are around 5,000 games each for the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64, an uncountable number for IBM and Mac and a few /vr/ MMOs you can sink hundreds of hours each into.

Swallow your pride, make a Furcadia account and stop whining.

>> No.3114290

>>3113979
When will you people fuck off? YOU'RE A FUCKING DUMBASS SCUMFUCK.

>> No.3114350

>>3113979
There was no concept of retrogaming in late 80s and 90s and Play Station wasn't retro in the late 2000s.

>> No.3114376

>>3114006
I don't really agree with them taking forever. I played through 21 of these games and most of them only take a few hours.

>> No.3114385

>>3113979
>In the late 80s a retro gamer was someone who still played 2600 games. In the late 90s a retro gamer was someone who was still playing NES games. In the late 2000s, it was someone who was still playing Playstation games.

It was called being poor son, retro gaming as we know it didn't exist until the 00's, don't kid yourself.

>> No.3114389

>>3114251
>5,000 games ... for the ZX Spectrum
And 0 worth playing.

>> No.3114394

>>3114385
Home system emulators started to pop up in the first half of the 90s.

>> No.3114409

>>3114394
And were used by a minuscule bunch of literal supernerds, with the exception of GB emulators there was hardly any real traffic and activity in emulation, it was a very niche sector.

Again, Retro Gaming as we know it didn't exist back then, and by that I mean the return to the roots of videogames AND the "retro" craze of the more recent years.

It started in the late 90's/early 00's when companies began to pull remakes/enhanced ports/Arcade compilations of older games, see all the stuff the PS got for instance, we even got Qbert and Frogger remakes back then.

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>>3114350
>Play Station wasn't retro in the late 2000s.

I can't say how retro-gaming was viewed in the 80-90s since I was too young (although I'd assume there was already a small scene for people who enjoyed older DOS/Mac games, pre-NES consoles, and early arcade games like Pac-Man like the Twin Galaxies guys still do), but this is definitely wrong.

N64/PS1 were already viewed as retro by the mid/late-2000s. You have to consider how quickly technology was accelerating at the time. By 2007, you already had games like Gears of Wars, Crysis, Dead Rising, Bioshock, Modern Warfare, etc. Compare that to the blocky graphics of Super Mario 64, the load times and synthesized music of the PS1, or shit like Blasto, Bubsy 3D or South Park 64 that were coming out at the time.

One of the first episodes of the Retronauts podcast on 1UP in 2006 was about the N64, so it was definitely considered old/retro by that point.

>> No.3114421

I don't think it's possible, OP. Between the sheer number of retro games existing, the fact that some have huge replay value (for me: Civilization series, X-Com, TTDX, Master of Orion...) and having less time to play as an adult, how can you run out of games?

>> No.3114427

>>3114413
They were """"" retro""""" because a whole bunch of kids forced them to be, just like PS2fags are trying to now.

But they weren't universally accepted as such until quite recently and talking about 5th gen stuff on retro communities was like shouting look at me I'm underage. So gen 6 may be accepted here when gen9 come out for what I care, but it would never be the kind of stuff I'm into. It's not about the label.

>> No.3114445

>he thinks that all the garbage and shovelware that makes up 99% of each gaming console library is worth playing.

Stick to the classics

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3114450

>>3114445

Have fun missing out on all the lesser-known games that you might enjoy even more than the "classics" because you're too close-minded to try them.

>> No.3114470

>>3113335
Not possible. There are 10's of thousands of games prior to 2000 if you include all platforms. If you beat one new game a day since birth, you'd not run out.

>> No.3114483

>You will run out of good & decent retrogames in your lifetime
fixed

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>>3113335
>You won't be able to play every game you want to in your lifetime.

>> No.3114593

>>3114445
Why does it matter that 99% of modern games are garbage? Just play the 1%.

>> No.3114603

>>3113417
>Way to miss the point. I don't care about the label, I care about games made in <1999.

Then you need to find a word other than "retro" to describe what kinds of games you care about.

Before you die there will be kids unironically referring to Miecraft, Witcher and Call of Duty retro. Because to them it will be.

>> No.3114606

>>3113363

no definitely not. The biggest games go is clusters of galaxies, while the universe has already expanded more than all their content combined since I started typing this.

>> No.3114617

>>3114603
No, the word retro works just fine on this specific board and this specific period of time thank you. Wait for another 10 or 20 years to be autistic about my naming choices.

>> No.3114974

>>3113931
"imitative of a style, fashion, or design from the recent past." is actually the definition of retro, but nice try.

Want to nitpick? ONLY games made recently are retro because ONLY games made recently IMITATE the recent past. Anything FROM 1999 or earlier is just old.

>> No.3114992

>>3113408
Not retro. Never will be retro.

>> No.3115012

>>3114992
Yeah it will. There's quite literally nothing you can say or do to argue it that doesn't also render the currently accepted formats also 'not retro'.

>> No.3115050

>>3114413
I wanna stroke that pussy.

Is it better to only play the classics of each system knowing that the top 5% of each console will be certain to provide unforgettable experiences?

Or is it better to play only the obscure stuff with no representation on youtube or gamefaqs, delving deep for forgotten treasure untouched by normies?

>> No.3115062

>>3114606
Yeah that was the conclusion I came to as well that's why I decided to smoke the blunt.

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>>3113967
you misunderstood me, i HAVE played all games from 630BC to 2370

and i only care about games between 1972 and 1999, with the exception of liar's dice, and parriss squares

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3115297

>mfw I spent so many years of my life (30yo) playing obscure shit that I still haven't even played most of classic titles, specially for 5th gen

And when I mean classics I mean games you never recommend for being too obvious like MGS, Crash series, Banjo & Kazooie, Spyro, Super Mario RPG, Earthbound and so on. That said I'm sure I will never run out of games, and even if this happen I can do the same with the 6th gen "classics". Fuck, I only played Super Metroid and Castlevania SotN in 2011. Awesome titles btw

>> No.3115337

>>3113335
Make some more

>not retro
Just approach a game with old philosophies. Then it will be not retro in era alone.

>> No.3115339

>>3115337
I thought it would be helpful if I provided an example.

Cave Story. A game made with a classic approach that feels part of a previous era.

>> No.3115360

>>3115297
>Fuck, I only played Super Metroid and Castlevania SotN in 2011. Awesome titles btw
I can relate to that, growing up in the late 80's/early 90's I certainly got to experience the DOS/NES/Genesis/Turbografx/SNES scene, with a few wealthy neighbors that even had obscure shit like the virtual boy and sega cd that I was given a chance to try out a handful of times... But the thing was, the games I owned and the games my friends owned were all trash. I'm talking about almost 95% sports games collections. Ken griffey jr. and riddick bow boxing were considered good games to my peers, and RPGS and Platformers flew over our heads. Sure, we enjoyed Ecco the Dolphin on sega cd, and even spent countless sleepovers playing Sewer Shark but it was only a few years ago I discovered I had missed out on so many great titles (for almost every system). One of the reasons I enjoy this board is to simply observe what people consider to be enjoyable and then try it for myself.

>> No.3115389

I won't though. I'll probably only live into my late 30s early 40s and there's still a ton of games I haven't gotten around to.

>> No.3115395

>>3113335
1. You don't have to strictly play retro games.
2. You are literally not going to run out of games to play. You probably can't even list 20% of the NES/Famicom library off the top of your head.
3. You're wasting time shitposting when you could be playing games.

>> No.3115417

>>3115395
>1. You don't have to strictly play retro games.
I don't have to, I want to.
>2. You are literally not going to run out of games to play. You probably can't even list 20% of the NES/Famicom library off the top of your head.
I'm 31. It only took me like 10 years to beat most of the worth playing games of the genres I care about they made for the Nes, Master System, Megadrive, Snes and Turbografx. I'm healthy so I can live 40 years more. Do the math yourself.
>3. You're wasting time shitposting when you could be playing games.
But I don't wanna run out of them.

>> No.3115581

I find there are so many games I just want to replay over and over I'm not worried about running out.
Heck, I've only played shining force 3 trilogy through once, I could play that a dozen times.

Not to mention old RPGs like baldurs gate which I haven't even stayed yet, I've never done a pacifist run in deus ex, etc

>> No.3115764

Nigga, I have enough roms/isos to keep me busy for like the next 30 years. Not to mention that I my free time also gets divided up between watching anime and reading books and shit.

>> No.3115798

>>3115417
Maybe death will find you first.

>> No.3116079

>>3113335
Not if I kill myself first!

>> No.3116982

>>3116079
But then you'll die knowing you didn't play everything worth playing.

>> No.3117002

>>3113408
Games can't just gradually get "retro" status by being old. It works contextually, as in being old examples of a certain medium. Which also means that if video games never progressed beyond SNES capabilities, they probably wouldn't be referred to as "retro" at all.

>> No.3117019

>>3115417
>I don't have to, I want to.

That's your problem then. If you pick an arbitrary and limited time frame to play games from and then become sad they're finite there's nothing I can do to help you.

But if you beat almost every game you care about in just 10 years then you will have to find a new hobby eventually.

I have the opposite problem. I'm in my 40's now and can feel the years ticking by and the slow inevitable approach of death. I know I'll never have the time to devote as much time as I want to all the games that exist already. And every year more get added to the pile.

>> No.3117039

>>3113335
lolno

>> No.3117113

>>3117002
You're wrong. Tell me why you aren't. Cite sources, because I already have in this thread. By definition nothing discussed here is retro, just old.

>> No.3117134

>>3113335
I only play one or two a month, and only in short spurts. Even with the modest collection I have now, there's years of play to be had before I run out, and there's tons more I'd like to add to my set as years go on.

>> No.3117187

Dude, due to the powers of emulation, I have literally thousands of retro games sitting in my backlog and that's just the stuff that's on the /v/ recommends wiki, let alone fullset. So even if I manage to beat those thousands of games (Which I don't even think is physically possible in a lifetime without being a cheating whore or using savestates which is basically the same thing), by the time I do, there will be even more games considered "retro"

So unless if you're a god at retro games, you'll have to rise from the grave three times to beat these games.

>> No.3117431

>>3117113
>implying style is a trait not expressed by videographic electromathingies

>> No.3117441

>>3116982
He could kill himself right before playing Banjo Kazooie.

>> No.3117924

>>3114450

>WW screenshot

That's how I know you're an insufferable faggot whose opinion should never be taken seriously.

>> No.3118020

>>3117019
Assuming you're 40, you can fairly reasonably expect to live another 40 years and that on average, your health shouldn't start to fail until the last 5 years.

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>>3113335

All this time collecting games... I should have been collecting life experiences instead.

mfw I will never sleep with a 10/10 woman.

>> No.3118429

>>3113335

Every year you get older is a year more games pass into the retro-sphere.

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>>3118174
Who the fuck needs 10/10 women when you have a Neo Geo. Sure a Neo Geo can't cook and clean and you can't fuck it (or can you). But it will never talk back at you, it will never try to control you, it won't leave you.

Think about it anon. How wonderful life is when you have a Neo Geo.

>> No.3120680

>>3114350
Actually, I have old issues of Next Generation (published in the mid-90s) that discussed retro gaming, back when it meant people finding and playing old Atari 2600 games as they preferred them to newer consoles like Playstation or Saturn.

>> No.3120721

>>3120301
I've fucked a Neo Geo before. I got a mega shock from it.

>> No.3120948

>>3120301
>10/10 women cook and clean
top kek virgin kid

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3121703

>It's a /vr/ argues about the definition of a word episode.

>> No.3125113

>>3120948
Sure I may have never fucked a member of the female human species but I did have sex with my Neo Geo last night. IT WAS AWESOME! And besides while I may not have a wife to cook and clean for me I have my dear old mommy to do that for me.

>> No.3125181

>>3114606
not once no man's sky releases