/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.3112793]

Why did Sony succeed when Panasonic and Philips failed? What made devs and the market support the PlayStation more than the CD-i and 3DO?

[Anonymous No.3112797]

The Sony brand meant something at that time.

Same reason people gave up records and cassettes for CDs.

[Anonymous No.3112804]

>>3112793
sony knew what they were doing? they had just broke up with nintendo and people knew they were gonna really go for it?

[Anonymous No.3112820]

Lets break this down shall we.

CD-I:
>shitty games
>shitty controller which was basically a remote control
>bulky console that weighed a metric butt ton and was larger than a refrigerator
>no original IPs

3DO:
>same shit as the CD-i; bulky console and no IPs
>gimmick ass live-action multiple choice "games" like Plumbers Don't Wear Ties

Sony Playstation
>original IPs such as Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider
>Final Fantasy and JRPGS
>Conveniently sized console
>excellent controller for its time
>played music CDs
>did the whole "video games on CDs" thing right with 3d polygons and excellent sound

[Anonymous No.3112821]

Panasonic wasn't completely behind the 3DO. They were just one of several licensors like Goldstar and Creative.
That was one of the key problems of the 3DO, they couldn't sell it at a low price like other console manufacturers because they needed to make a profit on the hardware alone.

The CDi wasn't particularly suited as a gaming system. It was important in the multimedia market of the 90s.

NEC should be a closer match. They ultimately failed because they screwed up the overseas market and Nintendo clawed back the domestic one.

[Anonymous No.3112839]

>>3112820
>Tomb Raider original IP

[Anonymous No.3112847]

>>3112839
WTF? That is a shoop. Tomb Raider was a PS1 exclusive.

[Anonymous No.3112852]

>>3112847

[Anonymous No.3112862]

They worked with Nintendo. That whats happened. Also Sony REALLY cared about making a good console for a low price rather than jewing kids with $600 dollars consoles and shitty games. too bad 10 years lated they changed their minds

[Anonymous No.3112864]

>>3112839
Nobody cares, nobody cared
Face it Saturnfags

[Anonymous No.3112869]

>>3112864
>>3112847
>>3112820
>this underage

[Anonymous No.3112872]

>>3112864
Everybody played the PC port with nude mod.

[Anonymous No.3112874]

>>3112847
Tomb Raider 1 was first developed for the Saturn, and Sega bought 6 months exclusivity from them. Then when that ended, Sony bought something like 4 years of exclusivity. That's why Tomb Raider was PS1/PC exclusive from that point forward, until 2000 or so (there was a DC tomb raider game).

[Anonymous No.3112885]

>>3112869
Yeah, i bet on Earth 2 TR was a huge success for Saturn, but not on this planet

[Anonymous No.3112894]

>>3112872
I only had the ps1 version

[Anonymous No.3112896]

>>3112885
No one is arguing about which console it sold better on.

To think it was exclusive is hilarious. This isn't some obscure game. This is one the biggest hyped up games of the generation. It even got a movie that did well. The games also sold very well on PC.

You're either underage& or some 3rd worlder.

[Anonymous No.3112897]

>>3112793
I would say one thing that helped it was programming it. If I recall correctly, it was much easier to make a game for the PlayStation than it was for most other systems. I'm no expert on what languages, or even the hardware, but I do know that if given the choice, programming for something relatively easy and was widely available was a much better option, financially, than it was to program something difficult that very few people have.

[Anonymous No.3112898]

>>3112847
>>3112864
LOOK GUISE, I'm RETRO ;) too. My first gamez system was a DS PHAT ;) ;-) <

[Anonymous No.3112905]

Because they were Japanese. Western consoles got very light Japanese support so they had to rely mostly on western games to populate the library while the PS1 would have great support from both Japan and the west.

[Anonymous No.3112915]

>>3112896
Back then Tomb Raider = Psx
Geeez, why i talk with someone who probably still not born in 1996?

[Anonymous No.3112917]

3DO was both weak as shit and expensive as shit, so no wonder the PS1 raped it.

[Anonymous No.3112918]

>>3112905
Panasonic/Matsushita is a Japanese company.
The 3DO had Japanese developers going for it.

[Anonymous No.3112920]

>>3112915
>Psx
Confirmed underageb&

[Anonymous No.3112921]

>>3112898
>this assblasted
Saturnfags are so cute

[Anonymous No.3112927]

>>3112920
>confirmed born after 1996

[Anonymous No.3112930]

>>3112793
Initially 3DO and CD-i were launched at $700. Playstation was $300. Playstation saw a greater adoption rate for a variety of reasons, but an important one is pricing.
>$300 was more affordable than $700
>more people buy Playstation
>Sony makes more money
>which causes Playstation publishers and developers to make more games
>which causes more people to buy Playstation

[Anonymous No.3112934]

>>3112927
This coming from the child who thought Tomb Raider was an exclusive.

You know what I think I may screencap this thread. You go from underageb& comments.

Then trying to deflect your underage by attempting to start a console wars shitpost with Saturn.

And then you follow up with the underageb& name for the PlayStation.


Really shows the age of kids that use the term "PSX".

[Anonymous No.3112936]

>>3112934
Not that anon, but no one played Tomb Raider on Saturn. It was always associated with the PSX back then.

[Anonymous No.3112937]

>>3112921

[Anonymous No.3112940]

>>3112936
I played most the Tomb Raiders on the PC, kiddo.

Keep trying to deflect though.

[Anonymous No.3112945]

Sony were inspired by the SNES and they got the PS into UK dance clubs chill-out rooms. Wipeout, Tekken and Tomb Raider were early exclusives.

[Anonymous No.3112949]

>>3112934
>Really shows the age of kids that use the term "PSX".
Stop projecting.

[Anonymous No.3112952]

>>3112940
With nude patch?

[Anonymous No.3112954]

>>3112940
Even though a lot oof people played it on PC too, the Saturn was the absolute last platform that came to mind when you said "Tomb Raider", and the PlayStation was the first.

FFVII and VIII were released on PC too, but that doesn't make them any less associated with the PSX.

[Anonymous No.3112959]

>>3112847
Back in the very early Playstation days, a lot of these 3DFX PowerVR and whatever games, such as Tomb Raider and Wipeout, had PC releases as well. Thankfully back then there was no master race bullshit so people appreciated both.

[Anonymous No.3112965]

>>3112920

[Anonymous No.3112970]

>>3112936
>>3112954
It was a timed exclusive on Saturn for 6 months. I agree, that it became way more popular on Playstation than it ever was on Saturn and sold gangbusters. But at the very beginning of the TR franchise, you could only play TR1 on a Saturn. It was a pretty big deal for a short period of time before the exclusivity agreement ended.

[Anonymous No.3112971]

>>3112918
While I am wrong about the Panasonic it still applies to the 3DO, as I said they got LIGHT Japanese support not non-existent Japanese support. They never seem to support western consoles as much. Probably the most they have ever supported a western console would be the original Xbox.

[Anonymous No.3112975]

>>3112934
>>3112940

[Anonymous No.3112976]

>>3112954
Tomb Raider was the first Saturn game I ever saw.

I prefer the PS1 Tomb Raiders but I still never considered them a PS1 game. Especially the later ones. They were pretty heavily marketed on PC.

[Anonymous No.3112989]

>>3112793
They showed this to developers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCtZIlolG6w

[Anonymous No.3112992]

>>3112793
Final Fantasy 7.

No other reason. Didnt have online like dreamcast, and didnt have icons like nintendo.

[Anonymous No.3113028]

>>3112992
FFVII didn't come out until years later.

If you really want to know how Sony got a foothold into the industry...

>The game was the first PlayStation game to sell over a million units. Guinness World Records awarded Tekken with multiple records in the Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition 2008. These include, "First PlayStation Game to Sell Over One Million Units", "First Fighting Game To Feature Simulated 3D", as well as a record for the entire series as "The Best Selling Fighting Series for PlayStation Consoles."

Tekken Tag Tournament practically did the same for PS2 at launch.

It wasn't the gameplay that sold the earlier entries of the series but the presentation.

The memorable music and short but entertaining FMVs helped Tekken develop a style that set it apart from the seemingly generic Virtua Fighter titles at the time.

I find myself more of a VF fan now when it comes to comparing the modern titles of both series but presentation played/still plays a huge role in selling a game/console.

[Anonymous No.3113045]

>>3113028
>Tekken Tag Tournament practically did the same for PS2 at launch.
Unlike PS1 the PS2 was selling way more hardware in the first years than compared to software. PS1 it was pretty equal.

I still think the Sony name had most of the credit to the success. As I said in my first post. This was coming off the heals of the hugely popular walkman and "CDwalkman"/discman. Among their other electronics.

[Anonymous No.3113051]

>>3112897
This here really. For that generation you had a choice between Sega's dual processor mess, Nintendo's "You can make custom microcode, but enjoy your lack of RAM", or Sony's machine.

Sony also had a very low fee for devs looking to get in on the action.

[Anonymous No.3113064]

>>3112820
you forgot
>expensive as fuck

[Anonymous No.3113080]

Way higher quality games and more reasonable price point. Mainly the games, though, a lot of much-loved developers from the snes/genesis era put the brunt of their library out on the Playstation as far as consoles go.

[Anonymous No.3113084]

>>3112793
>developers, developers, developers
>easy to develop, cheap and versatile
>anime games, and arcade ports at launch
the recipe for success.

also no one remembers this game. This was literally the first game released on the ps1 in 1994. 『クライムクラッカーズ』(CRIME CRACKERS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77RqRiFekkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZFmRi-IR4I

[Anonymous No.3113087]

>>3113045
>Unlike PS1 the PS2 was selling way more hardware in the first years than compared to software
Because it was a DVD player

[Anonymous No.3113092]

>>3113045
Growing up in the era that sure as hell wasn't the reason my friends and family invested $300 into one.

Tekken, Twisted Metal, Ridge Racer, Loaded.

Gen/SNES weren't providing titles like these and Saturn was $100 more than a Playstation.

Sony wasn't a recognized brand in the VG industry and most consumers didn't buy one because of the Walkman's success.

The PS1 was simply much more affordable than its disc based competitors at the time.

>Panasonic 3DO $699.99
>Philips CDI $699.99
>Sega Saturn $399.99
>Playstation $299.99

It was a no-brainer.

[Anonymous No.3113097]

>>3113092
>invested
people need to stop using this word, if something depreciates over time and doesn't make you money, it isn't an investment.

[Anonymous No.3113101]

>>3113084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVIaQrLEh7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmR78WFsW3M
amazing ost btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZD-3hHNcw&list=PLe1pxtuuO2MzsvolsE75mya5cFHfY1YSv

[Anonymous No.3113110]

>>3113084
I guess not the first as Ridge Racer was released at the same time.

[Anonymous No.3113130]

>>3113097
It doesn't always have to be interpreted in the reseller sense.

You can invest your money into a console and have it pay you back through countless hours of enjoyment from its games.

It is an investment when you're uncertain of a system's future. You don't know whether its library will ever make up for the cost.

[Anonymous No.3113135]

>>3113092
>>3113097
>Sony wasn't a recognized brand in the VG industry
Ya nobody would expect a company that redefined how we listen to music and dominated the TV market to ever make a console. Nope...

[Anonymous No.3113138]

>>3113130
>It doesn't always have to be interpreted
Yes it does, you don't "invest" in food to eat every day, you buy it. If you're going to use a language use it correctly.

[Anonymous No.3113140]

>>3112915
>Back then Tomb Raider = Psx
>Psx
kys

[Anonymous No.3113147]

>>3113138
>"invest" in food to eat every day
Yes, you do.

[Anonymous No.3113149]

>>3113147
back to Brazil with you

[Anonymous No.3113151]

>>3113147

Are you a foreigner?

[Anonymous No.3113156]

>>3112894
you need to make custom covers for all your games.

[Anonymous No.3113169]

>>3113087
that's a bonus! even better. thanks for mentioning

[Anonymous No.3113172]

The Playstation was successful because it was inexpensive to produce, inexpensive to develop for and inexpensive to publish on.

The Sony name was respected for a reason. They knew what they were doing. The Playstation was a very well-balanced low-power 3D machine and the corners that were cut actually became a beloved part of the aesthetic (afine mapping).

Devkits were inexpensive and plentiful from the beginning so anybody and everybody that wanted to develop for Playstation was able to.

Finally and perhaps most importantly Sony already owned enormous CD mastering facilities so they could publish whatever they wanted fast and cheap in whatever amounts they felt like.

There had NEVER been a video game console like that before, on which such a huge catalog of titles could be produced so quickly and so cheaply. Corporate streamlining had arrived and Nintendo and Sega were lucky to even survive in the same yard with a big dog like Sony. The 3D revolution was even the perfect moment in the public consciousness for something like that to happen.

Playstation was a perfect storm

[Anonymous No.3113178]

>>3113149
wat

[Anonymous No.3113182]

>>3113172
>There had NEVER been a video game console like that before, on which such a huge catalog of titles could be produced so quickly and so cheaply.
Hi.

[Anonymous No.3113191]

>>3113182
ew. is that a trannysistor radio?

[Anonymous No.3113194]

>>3113182
It's funny I actually almost threw in a little disclaimer about the VCS but decided not to since my post was getting pretty long already. I wonder if Sony studied Atari's successful strategies.

[Anonymous No.3113196]

>>3113135
We didn't.

That would be like Samsung announcing their own console at this year's E3. They've quickly grown into an electronics giant in the past decade from their phones, hard drives, solid state drives, and televisions, but they've never exhibited experience in the field of video games.

Microsoft found relative success with the Xbox because of Halo and Ninja Gaiden. Steam Box was met with mixed reception due to having nothing exclusive to offer. Samsung would have to offer something unique and affordable to stay relevant, and that's becoming harder for the current generation to sustain.

If Samsung were to succeed at developing an affordable console that's easy to develop for and have noteworthy titles at launch in a market already dominated by 3 giants then you'd know just how unpredictable it was seeing Sony achieve what they did with the PS1.

[Anonymous No.3113203]

>>3113194
No, they learned about the vidya from their times with Nintendo and Sega.

[Anonymous No.3113235]

>>3112793
Because the CD-i and 3DO were garbage. The CD-i got fucking Nintendo to let them use their IP, and it still had literally not one good game. What's more, both the CD-i and the 3D0 were literally sold for $700 despite having literally nothing worth playing.

tl;dr Panasonic and Philips failed because they were run by complete raging tards who had no idea what they were doing.

[Anonymous No.3113236]

>>3113182
Atari games are difficult to program even in this day and age because of the incredibly constrained resources and required knowledge of assembly. The PS1 was actually fairly powerful for the time, unlike the VCS which was gimped for cost-cutting reasons.

[Anonymous No.3113248]

>>3113196
>We didn't.
Who the fuck is we?

One of the main reason my parents got me a PS1 was because it was Sony.

Microsoft was a fucking software company.

>Samsung
Nowhere in the same league that Sony was in the 90s.
Their main business is phones.

[Anonymous No.3113250]

>>3113203
Nah Sega and Nintendo's production models were retarded compared to Sony's.

[Anonymous No.3113251]

>>3113248
>In the late 90s Samsung's main business was phones

[Anonymous No.3113254]

>>3113250
In what sense?

[Anonymous No.3113256]

>>3113251
Man you really fail at reading, champ. There's two separate sentences there.

[Anonymous No.3113267]

>>3113256
>What Samsung is doing now has something to do with what they were doing 20 years ago

[Anonymous No.3113273]

>>3113267
Judging by your extreme lack of reading comprehension and greentexting I'm going to assume you're underage.

[Anonymous No.3113275]

>>3113254

[Anonymous No.3113324]

>>3113273
okay then please explain to my ignorant underage ass what 2010s android format phones have to do with 1990s saturn format game consoles

[Anonymous No.3113330]

>>3113324
An IP range ban for your country or just ban would be better.

[Anonymous No.3113338]

>>3113330

[Anonymous No.3113342]

>>3113338
Dank reaction image.

[Anonymous No.3113614]

>>3113248
>Nowhere in the same league that Sony was in the 90s.
>Their main business is phones.

Because Samsung totally isn't dominating the TV market alongside LG right now like Sony was alongside Panasonic in the 90s. And their hard drives totally aren't widely used in both pre-built and individually-built PCs.

Jesus Christ, they are fucking Renault-Samsung-branded CARS in South Korea. Ever imagine a Japanese electronics giant like Sony or Panasonic doing that shit?

And Samsung is almost as big in the phone market as Sony was in the portable audio market (Samsung would be just as big as Sony was if it weren't for Apple).

[Anonymous No.3113684]

>>3113614
>Because Samsung totally isn't dominating the TV market alongside LG right now like Sony was alongside Panasonic in the 90s
Umm no they aren't. Samsung and LG dominate the low end TV market.
Sony dominated both sides in the 90s. At very least was competitive.

>Ever imagine a Japanese electronics giant like Sony or Panasonic doing that shit?
Both those companies are huge.

>And Samsung is almost as big in the phone market as Sony was in the portable audio market (Samsung would be just as big as Sony was if it weren't for Apple).
Sony is in far more markets than just phones.

Samsung and LG are assemblers. They're not producers or inventors like Sony or Panasonic. Well at least like Sony used to be.

[Anonymous No.3113695]

>>3113684
You do realize OLED was LG's doing, right? Panasonic is just an assembler. Also, Samsung is huge. You need to stop posting.

[Anonymous No.3113703]

>>3113695
>Panasonic is just an assembler.
No they really aren't. More recently I know off the top of my head they invented that carbon tape for heatinks. Used in just about every phone.
>You do realize OLED was LG's doing, right?
Pretty sure the idea is far older than LG has been a company.

[Anonymous No.3113712]

>>3112793
Cheap price at launch in comparison to other CD based systems and a decent first year library helped it good a foothold. FF7 later made it a massive success.

[Anonymous No.3113720]

>>3113703
>No they really aren't.
As far as OLED is concerned, they are. LG was the first to invest tons of money into R&D for it and the first out the gate.
>Pretty sure the idea is far older
Nice try with the goalposts.

[Anonymous No.3113736]

>>3113720
So you go from invented to "Ya well LG threw money at it".

Great argument.

[Anonymous No.3113753]

>>3113736
Plasma TV tech was first proposed in the 1936, but it takes a shitton of R&D to actually make a working model so the first one to do it definitely deserves to be called more than just an "assembler"--not to mention the improvements and innovations that come as a result. Samsung and LG are definitely as big and as innovative in the market now as Panasonic and Sony were in their heyday, it's stupid to claim otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3113760]

>>3113753
Name one component LG makes in house. Samsung?

[Anonymous No.3113773]

>>3113760
OLED? Which they spent $8.71 billion to build a manufacturing plant for? They supply the screens to Panasonic, by the way.

[Anonymous No.3113780]

>>3113773
R&D =/= manufacture

[Anonymous No.3113784]

>>3113780
>name one component they make in house
>hurr durr R&D isn't manufacturing
They do both, fuckwad, try again.

[Anonymous No.3113785]

>>3113784
Everything LG and Samsung sells is made by an oem. They only assemble parts.

[Anonymous No.3113793]

>>3113785
>Everything LG and Samsung sells is made by an oem
LG IS the oem, they own the factory, they designed the panel and invented the manufacturing process. Next you're gonna tell me they aren't because they didn't mine the component materials out of the ground.

[Anonymous No.3113798]

>>3113793
I'm pretty positive LG isn't making their own panels. Wouldn't make much sense since the make nothing else.

[Anonymous No.3113802]

>>3113798
>I'm pretty positive LG isn't making their own panels
Then you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.3113824]

>>3112820
>excellent controller for its time
>"for its time" not "of all time"

[Anonymous No.3113825]

>>3113824
Dude it's just an SNES controller with wings and extra shoulder buttons. The SNES d-pad is actually better imho.

[Anonymous No.3113950]

>>3112847
>shoop
Is this actually still used on 4chan or did this guy try to do research to seem like an oldfag?

[Anonymous No.3114279]

>>3113028
>First Fighting Game To Feature Simulated 3D
You mean apart from all the VF games and stuff before.

[Anonymous No.3114282]

>>3113235
>literally
>literally
>literally
Are you trying to summon the spirit "Literally"?

[Anonymous No.3114285]

>>3113824
Dual-shock is the superior controller. It's persisted for damn near 20 years

[Anonymous No.3114286]

>>3113793
It's true. I used to work in the LG factory in Wales. We assembled, yeah. But the parts came from LG's plant in SK.

Except the CRTs, which were built in the building next door.

[Anonymous No.3114293]

>>3112920
Playstation was marketed as PSX in America because SCEA execs hated the name Playstation. And since this is an American board, we're going to call it the PSX around here.

[Anonymous No.3114302]

>>3114293
It is a shit name yeah. Sounds like some sex toy.

[Anonymous No.3114312]

>>3114293
What nagger? There was psx magazine but every ad box and brochure I've ever seen was Playstation.

Psx was some jappy console/dvd player or something

[Anonymous No.3114325]

Why /vr/ is so butthurt over people who call "PSX" the Playstation?

[Anonymous No.3114329]

On the schoolyard all the talk was about "shit hot games" like resident evil and ff 7. remind me how many resident evil and ff titles were released on the cd-i and 3do? oh thats right none.

[Anonymous No.3114332]

>>3113097
Bfto

[Anonymous No.3114340]

>>3113614
>And their hard drives totally aren't widely used in both pre-built and individually-built PCs.

Not anymore they are not, they sold their HDD section. Which sucks, because they had the most reliable drives in the market. Their HDD division was bought by Seagate, and they completely destroyed the reputation of Samsung HDDs overnight (they are using it as a brand for their own drives, which eat shit).

[Anonymous No.3114351]

>>3114325

I'm not butthurt and I personally don't really care when people do that.

But "PSX" was a just a name they used to advertise the console for a bit, it wasn't the official name and it was completely dropped after launch, only sticking around because some magazines kept using it. It's funny that people still use this name more than 20 years later, it's almost like if people kept using "Ultra-64", "Dolphin" or "Revolution" to talk about old Nintendo consoles. It was essentially just a codename like those, only used in advertising because "Playstation" didn't focus-test as well as they hoped.

Also "PSX" is the name of a completely different system that was released by Sony later, basically a PS2+DVD recorder combo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_%28video_game_console%29

So not only is it inaccurate, it also causes confusion. For example if I said I felt lucky because I just found an old PSX for a good price to add to my collection, people would think "So what? Playstations are a dime a dozen, everyone and their mother has one and it's still cheap as fuck.". So I'd have to specify that I'm talking about the actual PSX that still fetches a couple hundred bucks.

[Anonymous No.3114354]

>>3114285
And they still haven't figured out how to make a d-pad.

[Anonymous No.3114358]

>>3114351
>So not only is it inaccurate, it also causes confusion.

Only among millennials.

Seriously, pick any gaming mag from the mid 90s, and you'll see the ps1 referred to as the Sony PSX.

[Anonymous No.3114361]

>>3114340
Now they make popular SSDs.

[Anonymous No.3114373]

>>3114351
>I'm not butthurt and I personally don't really care when people do that.
>But I'm gonna make this lengthy post about it.
kek
>being this butthurt over something that doesn't impact your daily life in any way
You said it yourself, gaming magazines back then kept using PSX and they were the main source of news. But you're missing the other half of the equation because you either weren't born then or you're too young to remember: X made literally everything sound cooler in the 90's.

[Anonymous No.3114381]

>>3114373
>>being this butthurt over something that doesn't impact your daily life in any way

I'm not, I was just explaining the likely reasoning of people who don't like the name since someone asked.

[Anonymous No.3114382]

>>3114358
I'm 33 and considered a millenial. It ranges from graduation to birth year. Don't try and act like you're from a different generation than the rest of the faggots because you were born in 1992. I also was reading game mags in 1995. People called it playstation. I've never heard anyone my age or older call one a psx aside from the prototypes and the ps2 dvd thing. Prove me wrong. Show me any piece of period journalism calling it a psx after launch.

[Anonymous No.3114390]

>>3114351
It's really not like the nintendo names considering it was actively kept on in advertising and then had persisted use in magazines for years.

It's far closer to the current use of 'xbone' which would obviously never be seen on a box but everyone would know what you means.

And really no one has ever given a fuck about the actual PS2 PSX except autists who thrive on being pedantic.

[Anonymous No.3114391]

>>3114381
Nobody fucking remembers the actual PSX tho, it was a niche device that only came out in Japan and flopped hard. If people didn't mistake it for PS1, they be all "the fuck is that? never heard of it" if someone brought it up.

[Anonymous No.3114393]

>>3112793
Sony had a president in their videogame division who took it seriously, because he'd originally thought up the idea for a "playstation" back in the late 70's, and had been trying to get the brand started since then.

Add to that, that they had the money and were willing to work with a large base of devs, purposefully set out to out do nintend (they gt Squaresoft on their side, by offering them a better deal than Nintendo) an for that mater, then got all the AAA devs on their side wthin only 2-3 years of the console launching.
They had great ad campaigns, they had at least decent first party support....

The reality is that only Nintendo, with it's installed user base left over from the NES and SNES was the only company who could compete with them, and they really only did it because of a handful of games. Even Sega was left in the wake of Sony's business model.

I always find it funny when youngsters and Nintendo fans think the PSX just came out and sold a ton though. It was their business practices that won the day, not hardware. Just like with the PS2. And in fact, they proved that better hardware that just comes out and then gets no support won't win you jack shit with the PS3. PS4 just proves that people are nostalgic idiots that will believe minor hype machines...

[Anonymous No.3114397]

>>3114390
But Messiah wasn't on the PS1 or PS2.

[Anonymous No.3114398]

>>3114397
It's almost like it was a cancelled port or something.

[Anonymous No.3114406]

>>3114398
Doesn't sound like a preview for a port.

[Anonymous No.3114408]

>>3114406
Because it wasn't out on PC either in 1998.

[Anonymous No.3114410]

>>3114397
>>3114406
>this underage

[Anonymous No.3114832]

>>3114358
I was born in 1990, had a PlayStation on launch day and grew up playing NES and SNES when I was 4 and 5.

I don't call it the PSX.

Can you fuck off with the "MILLENIALS HURRR" shit.

How old are you, anyway?

[Anonymous No.3114915]

>>3114832
Old enough to have been able to read when Playstation was being launched? Did it not occur to you that this might have something to do with your perception of it?

[Anonymous No.3114918]

>>3114915
Not that anon.
My launch console PlayStation box says "PlayStation" on it.

Also who can't read at 5? That explains why you call it "PSX", I guess.

[Anonymous No.3114929]

>>3114918
Okay you're just shitposting then. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.3114936]

>>3114832
>i was born in 1990
stop reading here, go back to mommy underage

[Anonymous No.3114943]

>>3114929
>>3114936
Spot the samefag.

[Anonymous No.3114957]

>>3113824
>not "of all time"

Dpad aside, I don't know how anyone wouldn't prefer using a 360 controller. It's damn near perfect.

[Anonymous No.3114961]

>>3114957
>360 controller
8/10

Got a little upset.

[Anonymous No.3114967]

>>3114961
Fuck outta here, Sony shill.

[Anonymous No.3114968]

>>3114957
>>3114967
Don't like the Sony controller much either.

360 is full fucking retard. Literal trash dpad.

[Anonymous No.3114975]

>>3114968
>Literal trash dpad.

Did you read the part where I said Dpad aside? Of course you didn't. You're too hellbent on trashing a good controller just because of its brand.

[Anonymous No.3114984]

>>3114957
>Dpad aside
It's not like you're posting on a retro board and most games we cover here rely on it extensively. That alone make it shit for retro.

[Anonymous No.3114989]

>>3114975
You can't just say "oh but this trash nit aside" when it's something like the 360 dpad. The only controller to give the DC dpad a run for it's money for worse dpad. Overall the controller isn't good either.

>because of its brand.
Xbox controller. Trash for both versions.

360 controller. Really fucking trash. Not joking. This controller is top 5 worse 1st party controllers made.

Xbone controller. Pretty fucking excellent. Thanks to copying the best of Nintendo (dpad) and SEGA (triggers).

[Anonymous No.3115019]

>>3114984
I didn't make a fucking thread about it. Chill the fuck out.
>>3114989
Fine I change it to Xbone instead. More or less the same controllers.

[Anonymous No.3115043]

>>3114975
All controllers are damn near perfect if you ignore their flaws. Comparing flaws is how you fucking rank controllers.

[Anonymous No.3115045]

>>3114832
I was born in 1985 and just about everyone wrote "PSX" on message boards when the console came out.
Heck, here's one instance from 1998: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/1998/00000008.htm

[Anonymous No.3115143]

>>3115045

I don't read French, but I concur with this. The label became more specific when the "slim" Playstation came out. Although it was called the PSOne, it was easier to refer to it as the PS1, and the larger original model the PSX.

[Anonymous No.3115147]

>>3114351
>it's almost like if people kept using "Ultra-64", "Dolphin" or "Revolution" to talk about old Nintendo consoles.

Well actually Playstation's codename was PS-X, so we should add the dash to differentiate between the first Playstation and the PSX PS2-DVR system. Besides, X's are cool.

[Anonymous No.3115236]

>>3115143
The reason to call it PS1 was that it came out when the PS2 was announced.

[Anonymous No.3115350]

>>3112847

[Anonymous No.3115361]

>>3113138
>what is dictionary.com
Come back after you finish grade school.

[Anonymous No.3115363]

>>3113182
>didn't actually do the numbers

[Anonymous No.3115369]

>>3113684
>Samsung and LG are assemblers.
Seriously, stop posting and pay attention to class. Your teacher's going to take your phone away if you get caught.

[Anonymous No.3115932]

>>3112793
100 cheaper than Saturn at launch. And a month or two earlier. Saturn was also plagued with delays and shortages. And games were 40 or less. 3d graphics as a gimmick were also impressive at the time. Also US launch Saturn had those fucked up controllers and not the based Japanese style ones, so the original Playstation controller was better at the time.

[Anonymous No.3115948]

>>3115363
I'm the one he was replying to and I'll concede he's right. The entire video game market was much much smaller back then but the VCS successfully fucking dominated it even more than the Playstation did later and Atari actually used similar strategies to what Sony was able to successfully use. Their hardware was cheap and straight forward, they charged reasonable license fees and produced basically all the media. The biggest difference that jumps out to me from their respective successful years is that Sony just made close ties with companies like Namco until their in house developing team came together naturally but Atari tried to hold theirs captive and pay them slave wages despite the booming business andvthat's why the best ones broke off into Activision.

[Anonymous No.3115950]

>>3115948
>I'm the one he was replying to and I'll concede he's right.

Where can we get more posters of your quality, please tell me you came in from some other board.

[Anonymous No.3115981]

>>3115950
Nah I've just been here since the beginning and wanting to make the board a better place. I have a janitor application in, wish me luck!

t.gramps

[Anonymous No.3116097]

>>3112793
Sony had the advantage of seeing those attempts fail and realize you need great first party support instead of banking on people buying your hardware solely because it's more powerful than everyone else.

[Anonymous No.3116104]

>>3113950
People still use shoop all the time.

[Anonymous No.3116879]

>>3112793
good sdk, good documentation, easy to code for, good support for devs, decent development kits.

also a controller that made sense.

[Anonymous No.3116912]

They had enough pretty visual games at launch to get people interested in the system. Also it didn't cost an arm and a leg.

[Anonymous No.3116921]

>>3115369
>being this condescending over something so inconsequential

[Anonymous No.3120247]

>>3114351
That thing is fucking gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.3120264]

>>3114351
>it wasn't the official name

It's just as official as Ultra 64, only PSX has a nice ring to it and the name was used in promotional material.

[Anonymous No.3120267]

>>3114351
Everyone knows this basic trivia shit, it doesn't cause confusion.

[Anonymous No.3120270]

I'm calling it PSX from now on, screw you niggas.

[Anonymous No.3120278]

>>3115361
>I don't actually speak the language so I refer to dictionary.com (which doesn't actually contradict the correct usage of the word)
Keep investing in that burger

[Anonymous No.3121326]

>>3113236
>and required knowledge of assembly
It's not that hard. Damn, there was a cereals company near the crash what made a couple of games for Atari.

[Anonymous No.3121362]

>>3112847
nigga tomb raider was a saturn exclusive THEN psx got it

[Anonymous No.3124903]

It was cheap and filled the vacuum when sega and Nintendo fucked up.

[Anonymous No.3124957]

This has probably been mentioned, but the 3DO was not actually a Panasonic product. The 3DO company designed it and licensed the design to several companies. Panasonic was just one of them. The 3DO I owned was a GoldStar.

[Anonymous No.3125238]

Sony does what Nintendon't.

[Anonymous No.3125354]

>>3112793
Is there that games for playstation 1, rated E for Everyone (KA) in ESRB?

which are suitable for all age groups


without any magic or references to devils


and politically correct.

[Anonymous No.3125367]

>>3125354
Neo-Nazi Magicians Vs. The Kike Devil

A timeless family classic.

[Anonymous No.3125826]

could 3do and cdi even do polygons?

[Anonymous No.3126076]

>>3125826
Need For Speed debuted on the 3DO didn't it? Back then that franchise was pushing technology and graphics.

[Anonymous No.3126084]

>>3125826
3DO could, yeah, but in software only. The video processors could only do sprites.

[Anonymous No.3126090]

>>3112847
Nigga you dumb. I played Tomb Raider on DOS.

[Anonymous No.3126375]

>>3113156
this
use this one i made

[Anonymous No.3126378]

>>3125354
yeah, the ps1 had tons of mario 64 knockoffs like spyro, croc, gex etc
spyro 3 > mario 64

[Anonymous No.3126419]

So, when can we start talking about PSX2 in /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3126421]

>>3126419
never