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3109148 No.3109148 [Reply] [Original]

When did you stop caring about Pokemon?

>> No.3109157

When I was asked to choose from the three starting pokemon and I didn't want any of them.

So probably gen 3.

>> No.3109158

I still play, I'm waiting on Sun and Moon news revealed today.

Black and White is still the best games in the series to me. Very similar to Red and Blue. Forcing you to use new Pokemon.

>> No.3109159

Right around OR/AS. I have AS, but I just couldn't bring myself to play it. I will at some poibt, but I just really find 3D Pokemon to look unappealing.

When I first heard about Pokemon as a kid I wasn't too interested, but as the launch of Red/Blue approached I got pretty hyped. I even wound up getting a JP copy of Gold before it was released in the US and have played at least one main series game per generation ever since.

>> No.3109163

>>3109159
ORAS, was really boring. Unlike HG and SS, ORAS really added nothing new to Ruby other than new graphics and mega Pokemon.

>> No.3109165

>>3109148
once the numbers were beyond 250.

>> No.3109167
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I never cared about Pokemon, I was a Digimon kid. Probably because I didn't have a Gameboy or N64, but did have a Playstation and all the Digimon World games.

>> No.3109172
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>yfw your favorite Pokemon finally got his Fire/Dragon typing

>> No.3109181

I pretty much stopped paying attention to pokemon after I beat Sapphire. I'm currently playing Platinum for the first time and I'm really liking it, much more enjoyable than Sapphire. SoulSilver is next whenever I finish platinum.

>> No.3109187
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3109187

I beat Crystal back in 7th grade and never tried any of the other future generations. Since then I've probably beaten RBY and GSC five times each but I never could be bothered to learn any of the new Pokemon, EVs and IVs, etc.

>> No.3109202

>>3109148
before I even finished the first game

>> No.3109206

>>3109187
They changed how moves are categorized in Gen IV and up as well. It used to be based strictly on the types but now moves like "punches" or "kicks" are counted as physical even if they have elements attached.

It really doesn't affect much though.

>> No.3109208

>>3109172
Is this a new Charizard? He evolves again? Also, wasn't he always fire/dragon?

>> No.3109217

I only played the Red in 9th grade. I thought it was a cool idea but too easy to enjoy. Then a decade later I started playing SMT because because I like my pokeymans grimdark and edgy.

>> No.3109218

>>3109206
>It really doesn't affect much though.
The entire metagame would beg to differ.

>> No.3109220

>>3109208
No, he was Fire/Flying. And go look up mega evolution, It'll explain everything.

>> No.3109221

>>3109217
>easy to enjoy
That's a bad thing now?

>> No.3109227

>>3109221
((too easy) to enjoy)

not:

(too (easy to enjoy))

>> No.3109228

I'm stuck buying new nintendo handhelds so that I can play the new games when they come out. However i'll only end up playing through the new ones once and never again.

I can replay the OGs up until HGSS/Platinum over and over again.

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>>3109220
Well they killed Alakazam with this. This evolution looks awful.

>> No.3109241

>>3109148
After Gen 1 honestly.

I tried to get back into it when Soul Silver got released, and I beat it and mildly enjoyed it.

Pokemon is just totally bland. It basically hasn't changed from what I've seen since I was in like 3rd or 4th grade and I'm 26 now.

I just don't get the hype. I liked it a lot as a kid, but I knew even back then it was just tedious and spreadsheet style battles with rock paper scissors mechanics.

>> No.3109243

>>3109218
Ehh I probably just suck. From my point of view all it did was shift buff moves around.

>> No.3109251

>>3109241
You can thank Gen V bombing for it being bland. The one time the tried to do stuff differently no one liked it, so what do we get in Gen VI? Non-stop Gen I-III pandering.

>> No.3109253

I will always love Pokemon for the huge impact it had on me in the 90s but I don't have the patience or expendable hours to dump over a hundred of them every time into each new game that comes out. I'm getting old and there's a moral dilemma and a sense of exhaustion that comes with that type of wastefulness.

I stopped after Heart Gold/Soul Silver. I own X/Y and tried out Black/White and the R/S remakes and they're great, if I was 12 again without a care in the world I'd go for them, but that's not how it is.

Red/Blue will always be the big daddy of all the games, the best one to me, the one that started it all and that I have the best memories of. Diamond/Pearl is next.

>> No.3109254

Sapphire I think? I know it's not retro but that was the last one I can distinctly remember playing.

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>>3109148
Honestly, it was a little while after G/S came out. I bought Silver and enjoyed it, especially getting to go back to Kanto. But I was losing interest in it. It was a mixture of getting older and the new pokemon that made me ultimately quit. I was at the right place/right time for Red & Blue. I was in 3rd grade, subscribed to Nintendo Power, received the cheesy pokemon "promotional" videotape that had weird actors posing as Ash's family and friends while advertising the toys,anime,cards, and gameboy games. Shit was rad, and I was all in and eating it up. I just always personally felt that Pokemon lost it's significance to me when It went beyond the original 150/151 and also the feeling of aging out it.

>> No.3109261

Gen 5 with most of its deviant art pokemon designs. Then I came back for gen 6. Will probably get sun/moon if i feel like it

>> No.3109267

>>3109240
That looks based what are you smoking.

Aerodactyl's mega looks sweet, too

>> No.3109270

>>3109251
Hmmm, many many fan surveys agree that B/W are the favorite ones.

>> No.3109275

>>3109148
The moment Gen 5 was announced.
Played the first one the day it came out in europe.

>> No.3109278

>>3109148
When Black / White came.
It was then that I first stopped and asked myself: "why am I still playing this?"
The only answer I came up with was "because the older games were interesting", so I haven't touched a pokemon game since.

>> No.3109279

the only bit of pokemon i played was a couple hours of gen 3 and i couldn't tolerate the slow-paced battles. all that text and you can't skip through it! fuck that

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>>3109220
>look up mega evolution
>see this
My sides.

>> No.3109285

>>3109278
You might want to play B/W again then. It's basically like Red and Blue. You need to use all new Pokemon for 90% of the game.

>> No.3109292

>>3109270
In retrospect, yes. But no one was saying that when it actually mattered, when the games needed to sell.

Game Freak and/or Nintendo took one look at the criticism and sales figures and went "OK, we've learned our lesson. Buy X/Y! We'll give you a Kanto starter! And it can Mega Evolve! Charizrd gets TWO because you all love Charizard, right?!"

Honestly, the next Gen will probably be even worse because of Yo-Kai Watch having done so well in Japan. They'll want that audience and I think the games will suffer for it.

>> No.3109308

During BW japanese launch, after chasing the little chimps before the first gym. Played XY after it, and it only put the nail in the coffin. I only play side games and rom hacks now.

>> No.3109315

>>3109279
Which one? Ruby/Sapphire were pretty meh tier. FireRed/LeafGreen are way more interesting imo.

>> No.3109317

Shouldn't this thread be on /vp/? Only two out seven Pokemon generations are retro.

>> No.3109327

>>3109148
>implying I ever cared
sorry kid, never owned a game boy

>> No.3109330

>>3109148
After Diamond and Perl.

Started with R/B, ofcourse I loved them, but did not care enough to get the second gen games.
Got Ruby and really loved that one. 999+ hours in one savefile. Only got Fire Red years after its release on a flea market.
Got myself Diamond and really enjoyed it. Also bought Ranger 1 and Mysterdy Dungeon. Enjoyed these too, but decided to put a stop here. Did not want to buy anymore Pokemon, even sold Ranger and PMD.

Around the release of B/W2 my friend wants to get back into Pokemon. So we get ourselves B/W. Hated the pokemons, but enjoyed the playthrough. HGSS was beautiful. Did not want to invest my money in B/W2, but end up getting it anyway. Really enjoyed that too, probably more than B/W, since it has good pokemons.
Had to get XY to play with my friend. Enjoyed the pokemon, but the playthrough itself was rather mediocre. Megas are shit. Got myself ORAS since I love Ruby. Didn't finish it and haven't touched it in a year. Do not want to get SuMo, but friend will force me to get it.

Currently I'm having a good time with the romhack Adventure: Chapter Red.

>> No.3109361

>>3109285
>It's basically like Red and Blue
But that's the point. After constantly being bombarded with slightly more bloated reiterations of the same game, it simply stops being at all interesting. Having even more pokemons simply doesn't help.

>> No.3109385

>>3109361
I would much prefer a Pokemon game where you're dropped in a city, and told "Pick a direction and start walking", and the rest of the world scales up with each trainer and gym leader you defeat.

Or hell, a Level Zero hack where Pokemon have fixed stats except for EV influence for true non-linearity.

>> No.3109414

>>3109267
his head is not shaped like a pentagram anymore, that was the one thing I liked the most about this pokemon

>> No.3109424

>>3109167
>I was a Digimon kid
Everyone hated you. Bet you smelled like cat pee, too.

>> No.3109456
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>>3109424
I know that kid. Btw that digimon cartoon was chocolate covered tits back in the day. Tried to get into the games recently but they didnt grip me

>> No.3109490

>>3109424

>not liking both

I never saw Digimon as a pokemon killer. Also i found digimon way more mature themes than the pokemon audience at the time. Also i barely found any Digimon merchandise

>> No.3109519

>>3109456
>that digimon cartoon was chocolate covered tits
This.

Pokemon for the games, Digimon for the cartoon, Yugioh for the cards.

>> No.3109525

>>3109519
That seems pretty accurate but the yugioh games are pretty good too though.

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>>3109148
After I caught 'em all

>> No.3109541

>>3109414
Instead its shaped like a hebrew star. What do you think the jews are up to with this?

>> No.3109543

Ruby and Sapphire came out and I only had a GBC so I couldn't play them. What I did sample at Electronics Boutique didn't impress me much anyway.

>> No.3109548

The last one I played while it was new was Pokemon Black, and after I got stuck at the Elite Four and couldn't be arsed to grind up my pokemans I kinda forgot about the games, but recently I've been playing Silver on and off on my phone and I've been enjoying it.

>> No.3109551

>>3109148

Never enjoyed handheld games until the GBA, and by then I was 17. A bit too old to enjoy Pokemon when I'd never even played it before. Plus, I already had my favorite franchise from my childhood, Zelda.

I get the appeal, it is a grinding RPG where you can exploit the system to beat other people with your bag of overpowered monsters. Just don't want to waste my time to get into the games.

>> No.3109556

>>3109218
Caring about "metagame" in any game is for losers.

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>>3109551
>A bit too old to enjoy Pokemon

You're never too old for Pokemon. Shit, I wear Pokemon shirts to the gym when I'm lifting weights and I'm 27.

>> No.3109562

>>3109543
You should try FR/LG, emulate them that is.

>> No.3109569

Being really honest right after finishing Red/Blue, I never thought Yellow was that good. Gold was a blast for me though, but it didn't impressed me so much as the first games, not technically but the novelty at the time. Sometimes I still play some R/B/G romhack

>> No.3109572

>>3109556
I honestly 100% agree with this. I guess it's because I'm a 90's kid but I never cared for any meta game. I found all my joy from normal gameplay and if I wanted to play the game again I'd start a new game.

Also, from what I've seen the Pokemon metagame is mostly made up of 15 Pokemon that most people use over and over and over again.

>> No.3109578

>>3109569
Yellow wasn't good at all. When I was a kid I loved it but looking back it was trying WAY too hard to be the anime.

>> No.3109580

>>3109572

The physical/special split affected more than the meta game. It just enhanced the gameplay overall and gave you way more options for developing your Pokemon.

>> No.3109582

>>3109580
I think you misunderstood my post. For the record I love the attack stat split, I'm just saying I have zero fucking interest on the online play. A lot of people claim the meta is the "main" part of a Pokemon game.

>> No.3109584

>>3109582

Oh yeah, I don't give a shit about that either. It's all about the adventure for me.

>> No.3109591

>>3109148
1997

>>3109560
Wait until you hit your 30s and you actually start getting old

>> No.3109620

>>3109165
this tbqh famicom

>> No.3109641
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>>3109556
>>3109572
>lol chill bro, it's just a game
>I play for fun
>lmao sorry I don't have time to play this game twenty four hours a day

>> No.3109660

>>3109641
Competition in games just promotes aggressive and even violent behavior.

>> No.3109668

>>3109148
I was never that much into it, I beat Red and then traded it for Wario Land 2.

>> No.3109671

>>3109641
Hello Smogon.

>> No.3109676

The last main game I played was Gold back in 2001, put a lot of hours into it and played a lot with other friends. Around the time Gen 3 came out I lost interest, I was overwhelmed by the amount of pkmn, never played any other game since. I'm sure they're not bad games though.

My actual favorite Pokemon game is Pokemon Snap

>> No.3109680

Pokemon Black and that was me trying to get back into it after a few years. I finished the game, quickly blasted through what little endgame content was left and was done. I'm not into the metagame and after so long I got tired of the same battle system. If I'm not into the RNG, metagame, and time consuming egg hatching I'm stuck with games bloated with so many legendaries that it means nothing anymore, the same combat where my decision is ultimately to just choose the strongest attack, and going through the same routes so I can meet the new bat, the new rodent, the new bird, the new bug after picking the same three types of starters.

The series is still good for others and that's fine. I like most of the new pokemon each gen comes up with.The metagame sounds like fun if you want to seriously dump that much time into it but my obsessions lie somewhere else. It's just, I don't know, boring to me. I don't think I've outgrown the series either, I'm just tired of the same stuff, the same decisions being made unless I do metagaming.

>> No.3109681

>>3109251

Some things that are "different" in that game are amazing.

But... there is some powerful shit.

-Long, boring and empty Bridges.
-Simple map. VERY simple.
-More bridges.
-You can obtain berries... on a fucking website (now, dead, of course)
-"Hey, the plot is VERY important!", yeah... but as shitty as always

I like all the generations, but I think that 5 es the worst.

>> No.3109701

>>3109148
Ruby/sapphire

>> No.3109715

>>3109148
Played gen I, II and IV. Stopped caring after gen II. Was able to play gen IV for free since a friend lent it to me but any other game after gen II I have never bothered with.

>> No.3109720

Best Game was Pokemon Aqua

>> No.3109915
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>>3109660
This is the new male, gentlemen.

Take it in, sip it, appreciate it.

>> No.3109994

>>3109148
SoulSilver was the last game I played.

>> No.3110024

gold/silver.

high school was around the corner and there wasn't this huge acceptance of it around teens/20somethings quite yet. at least not in my middle-of-nowhere southern school.

it was hard to find people to do trade/battles back then anyways. even when you had your own cable.

>> No.3110034

Somewhere around GBA, when my pc got too shitty for emulation.
Had a minor resurging on Black and Black 2 since my gf wanted us to play together and I already had a Ds+R4.
Gen2 is still perfect.

>> No.3110053

Yellow

I lived in an area with lots of Japanese and got a sneak peak at Gen 2. Realized that it was more of the same shit and sold my stuff.

>> No.3110081

>>3109148

Never. Not to sound like a cunt desu but I'm older than most of you and when it broke, I was at an age where it seemed just a little bit too uncool to get interested in a children's game. And pokemon was more specifically marketed as a "children's game" than other games and toys and movies and things, I think it's reasonable to say.

Still, I liked games so since it was REALLY popular at one point I gave it an honest try. I collected like 20 animals over a few days or something, and just totally lost interest.

>> No.3110097

>>3109148
never got into it. i was 16/17 when it came out and I think I was a bit too old for it to snare me. I was into Metal Gear Solid and Quake 3.

looking back tho, i gota confess a bit of envy for those who grew up with it tho. Helluva childhood anchor.

>> No.3110102

ORAS. XY was pretty lame, and then ORAS came out and was shit, so I'm not too hopeful for the next one.

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>>3109660
>this is what /vr/ actually believes

>> No.3110280

>>3109556
Do you understand what metagame is? Clearly you don't.

Ignore the metagame of a boxing match and you'll get knocked the fuck out.

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>>3109660

>> No.3110309

>>3110280
ignore the metagame of pokemon and have fun

>> No.3110317

>>3109218

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you one of the 30 year old neckbeards who competes against literal 12 year olds in Pokemon championships.

>> No.3110356

XY was the final straw for me, luckily the mystery dungeon games are still good so I'm not 100% ignoring the series.

>> No.3110364

At Platinum, though the games I had before that was Red, then much later Sapphire, then Leaf Green. Sapphire was neat and of course I wanted a throw back to the original that was much faster and had a bit more content, but after that I was just sick of Pokemon because they just felt the same. I played my fill that I didn't need to play any other ones.

Just like Metriodvanias. There was a point that they just felt the same. I went from Aria of Sorrow to Harmony of Dissonance and it felt like too much retreading that I got bored quickly.

>> No.3110365

I was an adult when pokemon was released and I knew it was an unparalleled kid storm before it even got to the US. I showed my girlfriend at the time a Pikachu themed jumbo jet and she was aghast.

>> No.3110369

>>3110309
You cant ignore a metagame. Any battle is about feints, angles, and patterns.

If you ignore it, you opt for random attacks and movement. That's fisher price shit. Go play leapfrog.

>> No.3110376

>>3109148
By Ruby and Sapphire.

>> No.3110384

>>3109660
Competition is fine, its Esports thats cancer.

>> No.3110385

>>3109556
>>3109660
Dude... no offense, work on your rethorics, seriously.

>> No.3110387

after gold and silver only little autistic faggots kept playing it

>> No.3110390

Am I the only one who played Red/Blue when it came out, and then just completely ignored the series? I enjoyed it when I played it, but couldn't understand the craze around it.

>> No.3110396

>>3110369
pokemon is fucking leapfrog, the metagame is retarded bullshit its like the same tier as league of legends faggotry.

>> No.3110413

Like 6 years ago, but Pokken Tournament has me kind of interested.

>> No.3110423

>>3110396
Get good, padawan. You wont become a Jedi Knight hiding in the ghettoes of your ignorance.

>> No.3110447

>>3109148
Halfway through Diamond. People kept saying it gets great post game so I pushed on but by the time I got there and got the pokemon I actually wanted to use it was pointless to even play online unless you spent 30 hours min/maxing every pokemon to have the best stats and items otherwise you just got rekt. Sucked all the fun right out of it.

>> No.3110456

>>3110423
lol getting gud at pokemon is nothing to be proud of.

>HEY GUYS I MASTERED RANDOM CHANCE.

the meta boils down to the same faggots using the same pokemon with the same moves. There is no skill involved you could literally read instructions from a sheet on what party to use and what attacks and be just as successful as any other fag using the same meta because it all boils down to RNG at that point the game is like following a fucking recipe.

There is no skill involved kid competitive pokemon is a game for autistic shitbabbies

>> No.3110528

>>3110456
Wow. You must have got smashed super duper hard to cry that much. I bet you dont even dozzle.

>> No.3110551

>>3110528
you don't even have a retort because you know its recipe bullshit and you have to resort to lolumad?

nice try pokemon autist

>> No.3110559

>>3110551
If it's recipe, why can't you win?

>> No.3110614

>>3110559
because I don't play. I know you just want your wifes kids to think you're cool but competitive pokemon is autistic and they will see that when they turn 12.

>> No.3110618

>>3110614
I may never be cooler than Jamaal, but I'll always be good at Pokemon. More than you can say.

>> No.3110621

For me, I got into at at the first generation and the absolutley fell in love with the second generation, but sapphire and ruby were a massive let down for me so i didn't really bother after that. It wasn't till years later when hg and ss were released that i gave all of gen IV a go and found it was surprisingly likeable, but I have not enjoyed a generation since then.

>> No.3110641

>>3110618
I'm good at counter strike though, and I don't even play anymore.

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I was already in my teens when Red and Blue first came out so no Pokemon fever here. But I was really into magic back then so I enjoyed pic related a lot for what it was.

>> No.3110664

>>3110641
>good at CS
Dont ask dont tell. I dont care that you're gay but I don't want it talked about.

>> No.3110665

It was a few months or so after I turned 12 years old.

>> No.3110695

>>3109148
The last game I played all the way through was Black.
I liked it, but I couldn't get hyped about it like I usually did because I didn't have friends to talk to about it.

Soul Silver is my favorite. Emerald was a huge part of my pre-teen years.

>> No.3110741

I thought it was so cool that Gold and Silver included the Kanto region, and when RS didn't have it I was disappointed. And there was no way to transfer my team to the new generation. Plus the designs just weren't as interesting. Ruby and Sapphire definitely killed it for me. Plus it added a bunch of other crap I didn't like like berries and Pokemon nature...god fuck that shit.

>> No.3110753

>>3110741
Natures are awesome, faggot.

Fight me.

>> No.3110774

>>3109148
With Diamond/Pearl
Then I picked it up again with platinum

>> No.3110807

>>3110741
Berries were in Gold/Silver/Crystal... Only difference is you can choose to let your pokemon eat certain berries to gain stats for something involving a contest in R/S/E.

Change isn't always bad sempai.

>> No.3110813

i love gen 1 and gen 2 aesthetic, entire series started going downhill after, aesthetics/sound design wise IMO

>> No.3110840

>>3109560
>go to a gym to lift weights

For what possible reason? You get a gym membership if you want to do anything besides weight lifting or cardio. That's do it at home stuff.

>> No.3110851

>>3110807
Berry berry trees or whatever it was. Change is bad when you're 14 and want the same experience you had before. Change isn't always good.

>> No.3110862

>>3110840
Yeah you keep doing that

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Still haven't. I only play on Showdown, though.

>> No.3110898

Honestly, I gave up on pokemon as soon as I found out about EV and IV bullshit. It's not fun grinding that stuff out and everyone online hacks their shit anyway.

>> No.3110901

Played gen 1 and 2 as a kid
Skipped 3 and 4 since I was "too old for pokemon"
Played gen 5 and it was great, but I might have just liked it for the nostalgia
Played gen 6 and it was shit outside of a couple neat things like trainer customization

>> No.3110906

Right after the first generation. In the world I live in there are only 151 Pokemon. Everything else is for newfags. I might be mistaken and its 152. I am always confused about Mew and Mewtwo but I thought Mewtwo is number 151.

>> No.3110913

>>3110840
>try lifting dumbbells I found in basement
>the weights can be removed and changed and shit
>always make sure I tighten the weights on as hard as I can
>all's well for a couple weeks
>laying on back lifting dumbbells straight up and down
>the outer weights on one dumbbell come loose and land right beside my head
>tfw what if the inner ones had come loose

>> No.3110925

>>3110741
Oh I totally forgot how much I hated the idea of 2v2 battles. It really fucked up the formula.

>> No.3110941

>>3110906
t. urbo genwuner

>> No.3110965

>>3110925
They're really bad in single player. Just eliminate one of the opposing pokemon and then it's two against one. There's a couple of support attacks and abilities that are basically useless in single's battles as well.

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>>3110840
oh my god
You must be trolling...

>> No.3110976

Black & White

>> No.3111023

>>3109148
After Gold/Silver/Crystal. Not because I had anything against the following gens (Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald I think? I'm only vaguely aware of what was introduced in any of the gens following GSC) but just because I was over pokemon. I loved the first two generations as a kid but by the time I was like 12 or 13 (which I think was about the year RSE came out) I just didn't care at all.

>> No.3111037

>>3109148
3/4 of the way through Silver, when Gen2 was brand new. Didn't touch another pokemon game until Leafgreen, and since I've only played a few random hacks here and there. I like my pokemon simple without a whole bunch of extra bullshit like contests or whatever.

>> No.3111046

>>3109148
yellow

>> No.3111247

I came back for X and wish I didnt.
Not coming back again unless they change things around

>> No.3111317

>>3109456
This pic has always seemed strangely crisp and clear.

>> No.3111353

>>3109578
>Yellow wasn't good at all. When I was a kid I loved it but looking back it was trying WAY too hard to be the anime.

Actually I'd say it didn't try hard enough. I was expecting interesting scenarios and an altered map, but after you get Charmander the anime influences abruptly stop besides one Team Rocket grunt battle being replaced by a duo representing Jesse and James, and a surfing Pikachu game most players will never see.

>> No.3111381

ORAS killed a lot of momentum and I basically stopped before the third gym on Ruby. however I got a free copy of sapphire weeks ago when I got the game for my nieces and they had a B2G1, and I'm actually enjoying Sapphire well enough now. Wonder Trade helps breath life into it; like a randomizer.

That said I still think the first gen does a lot of things well that haven't been properly brought into the newer gens. I love how much of the game map opens up 4 gyms in if you know what you're doing. You can face some gym leaders in differing orders. So can incorporate Pokemon from Cinnabar or the Safari Zone before you go through the Silph Co. grindfest. Its why I prefer it to the Gen II games, which are great the first time around but really lack variety to do multiple play throughs, and are way too linear.

>> No.3111392

Hype reached critical mass at G/S and then trailed off after getting Sapphire.
>Bought Fire Red and played it for probably all of 5 minutes.
>Bought Diamond and played hardly any of it
>Bought Y and gave up after catching everything available up to eiffel tower gym.
>Bought ORAS limited editions and gave up by the first major city.

Really hoping S&M goes back to basics and caters to gen 1 and 2 fans. Expecting to be disappointed though.

>> No.3111403

>>3111392
X and Y bent over backwards to cater to genwunners, even recycling the design of an entire area from RBY. Look how that turned out.

When you say "back to basics and caters to gen 1 and 2 fans" I hope to god you don't mean "remove all pokemon after 151" like every other fucking person seems to want for some ungodly reason.

>> No.3111520

>>3109148
After completing Platinum

>> No.3111564

>>3109157
This actually hit the nail on the head for me. I liked red and blue because I basically got a baby dragon at start. Gold and Silver released and I didn't care for any of the choices.

I guess I never really cared for the more crazy designs out there, I had a Charizard, Arcanine, Moltres, Ninetails, Haunter, and Persian on my team for end game, all of which who looked like similar other mythic or real creatures.

>> No.3111721

After gen 1.

I didn't play Pokemon again until Fire Red, and that was only like a half a year before Diamond and Pearl came out.

>> No.3111742
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>>3111564
Seriously who the fuck would want any of these things?

I immediately boxed them and used a poochyena instead

>> No.3111757

>>3109157
>>3111564
>>3111742
Oh come on, those three are fine until you evolve them

>> No.3111765

>>3111403
it's really a design issue. Pokémon changed too much after G2. nuking every creature past #251 would be great.

but it's hardly just a problem with the Pokémon themselves, though. ranging from the areas to the overall tone. not to mention since BW there's too much backstory.

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>>3109660
Holy fuck dude.

>> No.3111975

when i kissed a female

>> No.3112126

>>3109220
Mega evolutions where the worst thing to happen to pokemon, second to 3d gfx. Nintendo should have kept there handhelds 2d

>> No.3112163

>>3109148
After Gen3, I tried Pearl but got bored after the first couple of hours, I think the sort of people that enjoy Pokemon in adulthood are usually the people who have friends that also play who they compete against, I might try playing Heartgold and Omegaruby one day for nostalgia tho

>> No.3112167

I wish I could stop

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>>3111757
>>3111742
Heard you were talking shit

>> No.3112198

>>3109148
I didn't, except for in gen V. That was the fastest I've ever dropped a pokemon generation, maybe after a couple months after release. I didn't even get into gen VI for so long because of that. I've played Yellow, Fire Red, Gold, and Soul Silver god knows how many times though.

I'm really disappointed by how easy pokemon games are nowadays though. They were always easy, but now it's just stupid fucking easy.

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>>3111742
No starter will ever be as good as Charmander but Torchic evolved into a half phoenix/half rapist hybrid which was pretty based

>> No.3112206

>>3111742
Fuck you. Mudkip and Swampert were my niggas

>> No.3112228

I didn't. And from the looks of it, a majority of this thread never did either, despite saying otherwise.

>> No.3112279

>>3112126
If I wanted to play Digimon, I would've fucking played Digimon!

>> No.3112287

>>3110384
Pretty sure that was what was meant. The second cash prizes get involved in a game, it goes straight to hell. The players actually see poor players as a -threat- to their future earnings.

>> No.3112478

No starter will ever be as good as Charmander ever again.

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I didn't.

>> No.3112501

>>3112487
>Umbreon a boring stall Pokemon

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>> No.3112509

After the GBA games. I gave Heat Gold a shot the other day but it's just too boring for me, I don't know. Fire Red is my favorite one.

>> No.3112669

>>3109148
I loved this gen and played through it 3 times I think but gen 3 for me. It was my last gen and at that point the formula was definitely getting stale to me. I was a teen at that time and I always even back then loved the first gen games the best. I also feel the look/graphics of the games started to suck after gen 3. Gen 1-3 all look good to me. They all have their appeal.

The only thing I definitely like from the later gens that I read about is the physical/special split and the easier to train IV's and EV's (not that I would even care much but it's a nice fix for sure). These changes aren't drastic enough to get me back into the series though. Also why can't they just do 3 types for certain pokemon? Why not retcon certain pokemon to better make things work? For example the mega for charizard is either fire flying or dragon flying. Why not one mega and it's a dragon/fire/flying type? Aerodactyl is the same way. And I thought Geodude is better suited as a plain old rock type. No more ground type for the geodude family line.

I know why they don't do this but it just still seems weird to me. I never found these games to ever be worthy of having true balance. I always played them for fun. Not for multiplayer balance.

>> No.3112683

>>3112669
3 types would make the type chart a mess (remember, pokemon is a kid's game) and give too big of a combat advantage with 3 STABs, Geodude is half ground because it burrows underground, and Charizard has X and Y megas for exclusivity between versions.

>> No.3112740

>>3109525
>the yugioh games are pretty good too though.
They're just simulations of the card game.

>> No.3112757

Gold and Silver, I played those to death though.

>> No.3112815

>>3110317
Posts like these are why /vr/ is the shittiest board

>> No.3112817

>>3109148

It was actually gen 2. I like the simplicity of Pokemon as a single player RPG. All the complexity added in later games was for training and the metagame. It's just too much effort for what used to be an 8-bit RPG.

>> No.3112863

>>3109148
after the 2nd gen. i was briefly into yugioh but that died when dungeon dice monsters was the thing. awful.

>> No.3112887

>>3109181
While I enjoyed that gen I'm not sure I could go back to it now. Since it was the first gen on the ds they apparently felt like they needed to rely on the touch screen for way too much shit.

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>>3109218
>The entire metagame

>> No.3112926

>>3112863
>when dungeon dice monsters was the thing

so you mean never?

>> No.3112948

>>3111765
Nintendo should just do a hard reboot of the series with entirely new mons and a new art style. They should also remove HMs, theme gyms around something other than types, let Pokemon learn more than 4 moves, let the player carry more than 6 Pokemon at a time, etc.

I lost interest in the series because it hasn't changed in a significant way from a design standpoint since Gen 2. It's not so much that I grew out of it, it's that the game hasn't grown whatsoever.

>> No.3112969

>>3112948
So what you're saying is, you want a game that isn't pokemon, but has the same name as it?

>> No.3112979

>>3112969
I want a game that isn't the same Pokemon that they've been rereleasing for more than a decade. There's so much more they could do with the concept without sticking to the same stale formula and tropes. All of Nintendo's other series are able to change things up nicely, but Pokemon is completely stale.

>> No.3112980

>>3109220
I don't really get what the idea behind mega evolution was. Why not just make the forms a normal evolution?

>> No.3112981

>>3109519
>Yugioh for the cards

and no one ever played the card game, they just collected them. Just like with Pokemon cards before.

>> No.3112998

>>3112126
>3d gfx

These aren't inherently a bad thing. But I can see how needing to model every fucking form of every fucking pokemon could cause them to end up not being able to focus in other areas.

Hopefully now that all those models are made they can just keep on reusing them over and over until they need to make another leap. So hopefully they can focus more on everything else.

>> No.3113041

>>3112979
>I want a game that isn't the same Pokemon that they've been rereleasing for more than a decade.

Try the side games.

>> No.3113042

>>3112981
>and no one ever played the card game
That's bullshit and you know it

>> No.3113049

>>3113042
If you played the card game then you are literally no body.

>> No.3113062

>>3113049
fuck you my whole school played that shit. battles during lunch/recess err day

>> No.3113096

>>3110317
Why wouldn't you assume that the neckbeards compete with each other?

>> No.3113126

>>3109148
i forced myself to beat black on the DS so I guess I stopped caring after diamond and pearl

>> No.3113150

when it went 3D

it looks so goddamn ugly now. X and Y was my breaking point. They didnt even try, even stadium had more enjoyable battle animations, and thats fucking sad.

>> No.3113190

>>3109148
pokemon became a fad when i was in grade 4, by the time gold and silver came out, i had stopped caring

>> No.3113198

I didn't stop liking it like I do not stop liking old games.

>> No.3113210

>>3109148
When I couldn't play it at obscene speeds like you could on GBC emulator.

>> No.3113224

>>3109148
When did pokemon come out again? Then.

>> No.3113449

>>3113210
Your age is showing

>> No.3113476

That's a good question, I can't remember really. Crystal and Stadium 2 were the last entries in the series that I have played. It must have been around 2002 I'll say when I moved on to other things.

>> No.3113487

>>3113476
meant to put that I have kinda started playing it again here and there, but maybe caring and playing are 2 different things, idk

>> No.3113523

>>3109148
After HeartGold. Crystal was the first pokemon game I played and I loved it. I also really liked Ruby, Firered and Diamond/Platinum, just cause of the relatively new quirks and additions each game had. Honestly though, HeartGold took my breath away. It really brought the 2nd gen back to life for me and made me feel like I was a 5 year old again, getting reacquainted with the world of Pokemon. I just love how there was so much new material and things to do, on top of the things that you could do in both Johto and Kanto. I playedWhite,White2 and OR last year. White and White 2 were pretty good, but the lack of postgame content kinda pissed me off a little, but hey that's just me. Omega Ruby was shit. Nothing was added except for 3D graphics, Mega evolutions (which literally take away most of the fun away from the game ) and a chapter about Rayquaza or some shit (which you literally can't lose and get an even more unbalanced Pokemom. Yay) Honestly, I wished they stuck with Black and White's formula and try to do something different that increases the viability of the series. It's clear that Mega-Evolutions are a gimmick that doesn't add any depth to battle. It basically makes it so that all you need to do is hit one button to win. Compare this to the use of Berries, breeding, abilities and the Physical-Special split. This made combat more meaningful and made having a clear strategy more advantageous than mashing A (at least most of the time). That also made the game way more enjoyable.

>> No.3113543

>>3113523
(My blog pt.2)
Little things like that can make or break how enjoyable the game is. Also, the games have become especially tutorial-heavy and full of "cheats". When I went to Winona's Gym, I just sent out my Vibrava and spammed Rock Slide till all her Pokemon were dead. I did some mini-game that increased it's attack and speed to a point where I would attack first and harder. That's fucking retarded. When I first played Ruby, I had to use at least three or four Pokemon for this gym, just to make sure I had an advantage over her. Why are the games so damn easy, even by Pokemon terms? I really just don't care anymore. Pokemon used to be pretty good. Not amazing, but it was a good series of games just due to the ability for a hardcore player and a casual player to be able to play it and enjoy the experience. Now, it's dead for all I care. Also the waifus are shit. Cynthia, Clair,Flannery and Lorelei best girls. The ones from Gen 5 were alright too.

>> No.3113980
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Literally every single time I get to Fuchsia

Every time I'm like UGH I didn't grind hard enough so you go back to the fuckin' Bike Road and the Fisherman Path and fight all the guys, and for some reason I'm still not good enough for Koga, and then I tap out

But I mean as far as the games go? Ruby was interesting but I just didn't give a hot shit. I tried to get into Pearl - it was cool and internet trading was dope, but I just didn't bother.

I told myself if I buy Pokemon Red for 3DS and actively finish it, I'll get a bank account and get X or Y - if not Sun/Moon

I tried to play Fire Red a few years ago and got stupid drunk trying to catch an Articuno. I woke up in the stupid cave, lost as all fuck, and Articuno wasn't there. Turns out I caught it and passed out - I nicknamed it "THA BESSSSSSS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVUyyHYkBHk

>> No.3113994

>>3109148
I never did. Though I haven't enjoyed the latest Gen, I consider that a problem with those specific games and not the franchise as a whole (which does have problems but are still overall enjoyable despite them).

>> No.3114003 [DELETED] 

>>3112487
Fuck off namefag fucking kill yourself. Go ahead delete my posts like you always do you little bitch but as long as you keep posting with a unique identifying name I'll find you and remind you of your pathetic excuse for an existence seriously just fucking end your pathetic existence you miserable cunt.

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>>3110456
Depending on the meta teams can be rather diverse. There are of course Pokémon that rise to the top but on good years like 2014 you can see a good bit of variety among the top teams. Though there are bad years like 2015, as well.

>> No.3114015

I played Black and White when the were dumped as roms and fan translated and upon completing them completely lost interest. Did even look into B2W2 and wasn't interested in HGSS at all. X and Y came out and I couldn't muster up any enthusiasm then ORAS came out and I got AS because some friends were getting them so I could play with them and I wanted to see the new content. I've basically 100% the game because I have no job or life but if you took it off me I probably wouldn't care.

>> No.3114048

>>3113980
>needing to grind at something as easy as Pokémon

>> No.3114049

Gen 4 after a long hiatus (5+ years). Got about halfway through Platinum when I said "Man, this is boring" and never picked up the series again.

>> No.3114141

When it became solely about the spectacle of new pokemon, being set on a linear path with new villains to thwart and new legendaries, not just about losing yourself in a well-designed world with all the other stuff as background fluff. The series has been very flanderized since RSE

>> No.3114157

Never stopped caring about pokemon; just stopped caring about new releases after generation 3.

GSC are my favorites.

>> No.3114171

>>3110741
I was fine with natures, hated abilities passionately.

>> No.3114174

>>3111742
But don't u liek mudkipz?

I herd u did.

But seriously, RSE were okay. But I greatly preferred gold/silver/crystal and the originals. Particularly GSC.

>> No.3114176

>>3112487
Espeon's cooler than umbreon. Fight me bro.

>> No.3114480

>>3112206
Now that's what's up nigga

>> No.3114498

Got bored of the series after Silver, really. I also bought Diamond but never finished it.

>> No.3114540

>>3109148

When I started playing dragon warrior monsters

>> No.3114541

>>3109148
That shit got fucking potatoe after Gen 3. And when remastered Gen 2 and Gen 3 came out, they'd already made it way too complicated.

>> No.3114647

>>3111564

>having 4 fire types in the same team, two of them fyre/flying

lol what a fucking retard

>> No.3115560

>>3114541
>way too complicated

What exactly is complicated?

>> No.3115763

>>3115560
Not him, but I despise abilities.

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>>3115763
I think they add to the game. There are a couple annoying ones but I think every Pokémon having an extra quality to them helps make Pokémon of the same type feel more unique, like Zigzagoon's Pickup ability.

>> No.3115872

As soon as Gen 1 Yellow was released. I gave up.
It was bad enough that two games were required to make it work; but now a third game comes out that just panders to the people who watched the cartoon?
Yup, Pokemon ceased to be a thing for me then. About a year of liking it, and a lifetime since of cynicism.

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>>3115872
>Mundane entertainment methods aimed at masses do not harmonize with my mature taste. Now I look down upon sheeple who mindlessly buy games that cater to their liking, smirking cynically at their ignorance

>> No.3115946

>>3115872
>two games were required to make it work
the fuck are you talking about? Whole difference was few exclusive catchable guys for each version, and only reason behind that was to emphasise trading and battling, as gameboy classic had almost non-existent multiplayer and link cable usage before release of Pokemon. Pretty much everyone bought just one version in each gen.

>> No.3115951

>>3114647
Yeah, what a loser, right? Who the fuck picks Pokemon with designs that they like or groups based on certain themes instead of compiling possibly most overpowered team in each gen? Some people really don't know how to play video games!

>> No.3115959

>>3115763
Abilities were great thing to add on, and with most pokes having more that one to pick from, they provide some nice variety when it comes to strengths and weaknesses.
Fuck static, poison point and effect spore though, getting through some routes with every wild pokemon carrying one of those was suffering. I've developed fear of hitting any electric or grass pokemon with physical move because of that.

>> No.3116083

>>3109660
I thought all the retards would be back on
>>>/v/

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>>3116083
I would call /vr/ the best board on whole 4chan if not for dum dums who hand out replies to even most obvious baits

>> No.3116164

>>3109165
This

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>>3109148
I was about 12 when it happened. Yellow is/was/will always be one of my most favorite games of all time. I managed to catch all 151 back then. Got Mew from an actual event at the mall, got the Surfing Pikachu from Pokemon Stadium.

About a week later, there's nothing to do, thought I'd get around to trying that surfing pika mini game that I spent all that summer to unlock.

>New Game
>Options

I had played with Yellow for so long that the internal battery had died.

No man/woman/child should outlive their fictional surfing electric mice.

>> No.3116495

>>3114015
This is exactly what happened to me, right down to the fan translation.

I still play Crystal all the time though.

>> No.3116498

>>3115959
You know what pisses me off? Levitate. God-damned levitate. Fuck abilities. They suck.

>> No.3116503

>>3109148
Genwunner.

Pokemon died for me at whatever came after Ruby/Saphire.

>> No.3116505

I recommend replacing the SRAM in your old pokemon games with FRAM (ferroelectric RAM), if you're handy with a soldering iron. This is a nonvolatile memory so if your battery does again your game keeps saving, the clock just stops in GSC. You don't even NEED a battery in R/B/Y after you do this.

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>>3115946
Yeah really. The whole point of Pokemon was to break the stigma of video games (particularly RPG's) being a solitary activity for lonely nerds.

>>3114176
That's fine. I like all the eons.

>> No.3116883

>>3116498
It's not really hard to memorize which guys can levitate, and it's actually a great way to nerf earthquake spam a little bit. It's kinda bummer though that some guys like Gastly or Koffing (why not Magnemite?) received relatively powerful ability that negates their major weakness, while others have to survive with irrelevant shit like Run Away or Early Bird.

>> No.3116995

>>3109165
this

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>>3116498
Ground was already kind of overpowered. Levitate makes some kinda shitty Pokemon more viable.

>>3109165
I was fine after 250, I liked they they kept making new ones. They lost me when the new ones they were making just seemed like lazy copies of earlier pokemon. Did we really need more seal and crab Pokemon?

That and in the last one I played, there were supposed to be like 600 Pokemon in the game but half the game seemed to be still just fighting Zubats and Geodudes.

One day Pokemon Online will come out and my life will be over.

>> No.3117257

>>3117007
>They lost me when the new ones they were making just seemed like lazy copies of earlier pokemon
Yeah I know what you mean. Gen 5 was the worst in this regard. Literally every single mon is basically just a clone of a gen 1 mon. It feels like a Chinese knockoff.

Gen 4 was when Pokemon lost its soul. It had none of the fun gimmicky pokemon like ditto, smeargle, unown, and shedinja.

>> No.3117270

>>3109148
when your mom sucked me off last night

>> No.3117281

Probably ruby/sapphire. I never finished either of them.

I played Black for a week or so a ways back and had fun, but I don't have the patience for it anymore.

>> No.3117285

Played Gen 1 and 2 obsessively when I was a kid.
A decade later, I gave it a second chance on DS with Gen 4. I finished it, but mindlessly through long subway trips exclusively. Zero investment.
Then when Gen 2 remake came out, I played Soul Silver right until Kaito's league (didn't bother with Red, the level curve spikes up way too much) and realized I loved it just because it felt like "what I remember playing Gold felt like" through my nostalgia goggles. And I realized that was the definitive Pokemon experience for me, and completely stopped caring about it. If I ever play Pokemon again, it'll most likely be another playthrough of Soul Silver ten years from now.

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>>3117257
I agree with you about Gen 4's original games. But the Gen 2 remakes were amazing. honestly, I think they're the best pokemon games to date tbqh. They had all the content from the original games while at he same time adding so much more to make a new experience. Also Gen 4 had some sorta-gimmiiky pokemon, like Froslass and Gallade which only evolve if you give them to a female Snorunt and male Kirlia, respectively. But for the most part, you're right on the money.

>> No.3117307

>>3117306
By them, (wih regards to the Froslass and Gallade), I meant a Dawn Stone

>> No.3117345

>>3117007
Seals and sea lions are different animals, same goes for crabs and cancers. There are only this many unique animal/plant/inanimate object designs you can use. I admit though that they should at least make them with different, unusual typings, having two water/ice arctic mammal or three flying/bug butterfly families is a waste of potential.
Also, how the fuck we are after gen VI by now and there is still no dolphin

>> No.3117435

>All people here who complain about next generations that lost their soul or are lazy copies of earlier ones.
It's not the Pokemon games that go in wrong direction, we are just growing up. There was a time when we were 10 and playing Red or Blue to the best of our abilities, struggling with every leader or elite four member, trying to use bros that we like despite their shallow movepools and bad stat distribution, believing that Charizard with ember, flamethrower, fire blast and slash is the best thing ever. Now, we are grizzled veterans of RPGs that can breeze through any modern Pokemon game without much effort, properly using type advantages, moves and abilities and wrecking every single opponent. Current Pokemon designs are not in any way better or worse than old ones too, we just stick to familiar ones that we've talked about with friends when we were kids.
Also, there is this thing about Nintendo is aiming new games primarily at Nipponese audience and secondarily at Murrika and Europoor. And majority of Japanese fans of Pokemon are kids, so games cannot be overly complicated and hard. They are still popular among kids who started with gen V or VI, so newer games have the same charm for then as they had for us back then. And each new game has longer playtime and more post-game content to enjoy.

>> No.3117450

I completely lost interest when 3rd gen came out. I've never played anything past G/S except for their DS remakes.

>> No.3117468

>>3117435
> There was a time when we were 10 and playing Red or Blue

Not necessarily. I was in my 20's when Pokemon came out and it was massively popular at my college. Beating the main game was never the tough part, it was all about building and raising teams.

I think a lot of it is that you just can't play the same game over and over and over. So eventually it was going to get boring. But Pokemon X/Y aren't made for people who have been playing since Red, it's for people who that's their first or second game in the series.


>There are only this many unique animal/plant/inanimate object designs you can use.

There are enough different animals they didn't need to resort to very similar ones so quickly. Only some of the Pokemon are clearly animal based anyways. But agreeing, I would have been fine with Spheal and it's evolutions if they were more interesting, or had different types.

>> No.3117526

>>3109240
Mega evolutions are retarded. This isn't digimon.

I bought a DS for OR and was very disappointed. The charm of the games on the original systems is completely gone, and the game feels empty. I went back and tried Diamond as well, and was even less impressed. There's no sense of discovery that let you make it past the non-existent difficulty and childish writing.

>> No.3117629

>>3112126
3D grafx are great and the direction where the series rightfully went after Stadium 1 on the N64.

>> No.3117720

>>3117468
I agree with you, I forgot there were some people who were already adult when first generation came out, as in my country it was always considered kiddie way of entertainment (Red and Blue came at the same time as Pokemon cartoon, Pokemon collectible stickers, Pokemon tazo tokens in chips and whatnot). It's kinda nice to learn how it looked and felt like from your point of view.
I agree that Pokemon X/Y is aimed mostly at newcomers (decline of quality and content at the expense of better graphics), but earlier B2W2 games were probably most complex games so far, with longest main story, plenty of post-game content activities, secrets, minigames, battles with weirdest sets of rules and so on. I've started with Red and whole gen V was still a real feast to me.

>There are enough different animals they didn't need to resort to very similar ones so quickly
I agree, but it does not apply very well for bug and water types. First two gens introduced plethora of various animals that fit to those types and now they are out of ideas so they have to put in more and more generic fishes and caterpillars because there is really nothing groundbreaking left, hard to blame them.

>> No.3117778

After RSE. Personally I just never found the 3D graphics all that appealing, it just felt a bit.. forced? Fake? I don't know. However I haven't tried the new 3DS ones and at one point I would like to.

>> No.3117783

>>3110906

Mewtwo is 150 and Mew is 151 IIRC

>> No.3117789

Call me a "genwunner" but the first 150, maybe gen 2 as well, just has a distinct design that was really appealing. You could show me a Digimon and a Pokemon from XY and I couldn't tell them apart.

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>>3117789
new Pokemon compared to old Digimon, maybe, but then again, old Digimons weren't half bad. But never ever compare anything to new Digimon, nothing alse has fallen low enough to be on the level of those atrocities

>> No.3117995

>>3117860
yo dawg

>> No.3118090

>>3111742
the chicken is fine
>>3117860
Hilarious isn't the same as terrible

>> No.3118114

>>3115560
push button and fite pokemanz is complucated 4 me.

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>>3118090
Every new Digimon is fusion of metal, guns/cannons, dragons and wolves. Every single one of them. I don't see anything hilarious about designs that are embodiment of Beyblade or Kingdom Heart fanfics written by 12 year olds. Unless Digimon devs are operating on the levels of sarcasm unknown to the man.

>> No.3118136

>>3109148
Didnt have a gba. My brother did and continued playing pokemon. If it had two save slots maybe we'd be talkin.

>> No.3118137
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3118137

>>3118128
this could use some sonic.

>> No.3118141

>>3115951
Hey kid, my old team would've wiped the floor with ya.
Because I played 3 water types

>> No.3118151

>>3118128
I still think that first one was hilarious, though his toes should really also be barrels.
How the hell are you even aware of new digimon?

>> No.3118167

>>3109148
I never was into it as a kid, I did enjoy the show for how cheesy it is.
Bought yellow a couple years ago and thought it was okay, even put 30+ hours but then stopped.
I also bought a copy of Gold for $12~ and thought it was a good deal, but the battery was dead. Gave it to my cousin for repair since he "knew a guy", and it's been at least 3+ years since then.
Not mad, just annoyed.
That's my experience with Pokemon, oh yeah and porn.

>> No.3118210

>>3117257
>Literally every single mon is basically just a clone of a gen 1 mon. It feels like a Chinese knockoff.

Gen 5 has a ton of original Pokémon, and even some of the Pokémon with the same general concept are pretty different, like Amoongus versus Electrode.

>Gen 4 was when Pokemon lost its soul. It had none of the fun gimmicky pokemon like ditto, smeargle, unown, and shedinja.

Burmy, Shellos, and Cherrim say hi.

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>>3117789
Which one do these two come from?

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>>3118151
Only toes? How about barrel heels?
>How the hell are you even aware of new digimon?
I got little curious about new Digimon games and recently visited the wiki to see what have I missed during the last 15 years.
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Mega_Digimon
It seems that all I've missed was introduction of few hundreds of OwTheEdgemons and evolution chains with more than ten guys in single family. Every single picture there is a bomb.

>> No.3118240

>>3118231
It does not have retarded PinkFluffyCakemon in filename, so the answer is obvious

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>>3109148
I'll stop caring when people stop making porn of it.

>> No.3118304

After finishing Diamond, and it was around that time I got more into PC gaming, and less handhelds; such is how it is today

>> No.3118326

>>3118276
Gonna need an exact title.

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>>3118326
Pokemon love club members only

>> No.3118360

>>3118357
You are a gentleman and a scholar.

>> No.3118483

>>3118276
>there's more furry porn than of the girls
Why. Well at least pokemon actually gets some unlike digimon

>> No.3118507

>>3118483
Human on human is boring in a universe full of literal monsters. I would much rather see a charizard fucking Misty than Ash fucking misty. Or Brock fucking a jynx instead of some slut.

>> No.3118523

>>3118483
Easy. There are more pokemon than girls.
If the numbers were equal, there would likely be about as much pokemon porn as pokegirl porn.

>> No.3118528

>>3118357
That pokemon was designed sexually.
They fucking know.

>> No.3118561

>>3118528
I don't see it. You're just weird, anon.

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>>3118276
>>3118326
>>3118357
Get the fuck out.

>> No.3118570

>>3118561
Nah, Japan loves fanservice, no matter how fucked up it happens to be.

Take Yakuza 4 for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6HslpF3b5Y

>> No.3118602

>>3118570
That gif is just an animal stretching. How is that fanservice? Have you never seen a cat stretch before?

>> No.3118606

>>3118528
It just looks annoyingly cute. You're fucked up.

>> No.3118674

>>3118528
I think its just stretching its legs anon. Dogs and cats do that when they get up from sleeping.

>> No.3118680

>>3117345
Gay post

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3118867

My interest waned with the character models.

With every successive generation, the pokemon became increasing bizarre. The first two generations were mostly analogs of real life animals (turtles, dinosaurs, dogs, horses, snakes, insects, etc) plants (shrooms, flowers, vines) myths and other sci-fi concepts (ghosts, robots, psychics, and demigods) and any of the above unceremoniously combined with an element or aspect of nature (onyx being essentially a rock snake, for example.) Sure, their were outliers, like whatever the fuck Jynx was, or those God awful hieroglyph pokemon, but it was more or less reasonable.

The character designs as a whole continued to follow this pattern for awhile, but as time went on, the designs just seemed to get lazier and lazier. Things started to go downhill with generation three, though it's passable. The recent generations are disgusting clusterfucks.

Don't tell that to /Vp/ though. Objecting to the fucktarded designs of modern pokemon will have you branded a genwunner faster than a /r9k/bot can reeeeeeee.

>> No.3118938

>>3118867
>Don't tell that to /Vp/ though.
Honestly, this is how it is with most of my friends. And some of them have pretty good tastes, but I know for a fact aren't that artistically inclined. Simply put, I definitely believe there were flaws in the earlier gen's designs, and I hoped they'd get better. I don't believe they did, and I now see entropy in Pokemon's formula after however many years they've been at it.

I feel bad trying to distance myself from a series I felt so fondly about, but I can't stand the idea that I'm clinging to a husk of that series, and my friends all thinking it's still alive and well.

>> No.3118943

>>3118938

At this point, I think the main guy behind designing new Pokemon would rather spend the rest of his days making Sega game fanart than create new Pokemon.

>> No.3118945

Never cared about Pokemon, honestly. Only played Pokemon Blue because my friends at school were all playing the games.

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3118972

>>3118507
>>3118523
Friendly reminder that if you fap to pokegirls, you will never poke-a-girl.

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The TCG? or the /vr/ games? I'd say after the orginal 151 Cards were all I ever laid hands on... and as far as the game? crystal. I know when a franchise is being milked.

>> No.3119031

>>3118938

I feel you.

It's almost painful, because in a lot of ways the series has improved. I don't think anyone could deny that the gen 1 mechanics were broken. And gold/silver, despite it's status as a beloved nostalgic powerhouse, had A LOT of needless filler.

That said, modern reiterations may improve on some mechanical aspects, but the best improvements seemed to concur with the destruction of the lore. And destruction might seem like a strong word, but I'm not else how sure to put it.

What's worse than that is the "feeling" is gone. I loved the early pokemon games--despite their flaws, because the lore was strong enough to carry it. Now, I struggle to care, in spite of the obvious technical advancements. It's not out of nostalgia, or a sense of loyalty to the "original" pokemon, it is--as many people in the thread have noted--the fatigue of a dying franchise.

They're milking it at this point. Anyone that says otherwise is in denial.

>> No.3119095

>>3119031
once it on life support surely they will put together a Pokemon mmorpg

>> No.3119387

The plot always having a Team Evil as a driving force is pretty tiresome, do the games really need something like that? Do the games need a "plot" at all?

Just leave me alone and let me catch them all, dammit.

>> No.3119396

>>3109548
Dude, that was the beginning of the best part. If possible, I highly reccomend going back and beating the "champion", see what happens.

>> No.3119579

>>3119003
You know what you must do, anon.

>> No.3119628

>>3116456
f

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>>3118680
why tho
because dolphins were mentioned?

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>>3119387
I don't mind having villaing team in every generation, but they should at least make them somewhat competent, dangerous and with reasonable aims. We've went from mafia that was making money on stealing and harrasment in gen I, through ecoterrorists in gen III, to fucking greenpeace in gen V. And insead of brute force, the all "terrorize" people with Pokemon that are laughing stock even among rookie trainers.

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>>3119652
I like that dolphins have a reputation of being serene, peaceful good natured creatures. But they're actually super violent and love to gang rape whatever they can get their prehensile penises on.

>> No.3119673

>>3119665
And sharks get a shitty reputation because of a movie, even though they're less dangerous than vending machines to humans.

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>>3119673
Sharks had a shitty reputation long before that. If it looks cute, humans think it's tame and friendly. If it has teeth they're convinced it will eat them. Even when it's actually the opposite. Humans are dumb.

>> No.3119693

>>3119679
Now moose are scary. Huge, heavy, dumb animals with a short fuse. I'm glad we don't get them here in Florida.

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>>3119679
Prejudice against certain species is not always based on the presence of sharp teeth/nails or animal being fierce predator. In exmaple, most people find gorillas intimidating because of their hulking posture and facial features that makes them always look angry, while liking chimpanzees. Meanwhile, gorillas are very meek for apes, usually very shy, sympathetic and able to socialize with humans while chims are one of the very few known animals that wage wars against other chimps for no reason (no conflict over territory, food or females, just for the pure bliss of killing and maiming other fellows).

We've strayed a little bit far from the topic though. It's kinda hard to say when I've stopped caring about Pokemon. during first two, maybe three generations, I was a kid still hype about everything Pokemon related. Now, every few years when a game comes out, I buy it, play it and enjoy it, but that's it. No drive for dragging post game fro too long, not enough determination to complete pokedex, not enough autism to breed Pokemon with perfect stas or play competetively.

>> No.3119717

>>3119695
Yeah sharp teeth was really just meant to mean generally scary looking. So interesting that our closest relative is another of the few species that engages in violence for the fun of it.

For me Gen 2 was the top. That was when I was really into breeding and battling. I enjoyed Gen 3, but wasn't into it quite the same. Then oddly I ended up playing Gens 4 and 5 mostly because of my mother who got way into the games so I played so I could talk to her about them.

But somewhere in Black/White we both burnt out on the formula and neither of us finished it. I had her hooked on Animal Crossing by then anyways.

>> No.3119760

I quit playing Pokemon after or during Hoenn.
It was an odd time in my life where I lost my family and had to move in with my uncle. I just sat and played it to feel a sense of normalcy, but I got picked on a lot by kids at school for it. They were the kind that always made gay jokes and tried to out man eachother. I quit playing Pokemon mostly because I felt they were right and I need to make a new life for myself rather than hang onto the past. That and they fucking broke my GBA!

I did get back into it though years later near the end of college and tried to play through all the games I missed. I think I became a bigger pokemon nerd than before....
Plus side was when I went back home, some of the bullies from school actually apologized for how they treated me.

>> No.3119767

I bought every single generation game up until Diamond/Pearl. I never finished Pearl and pretty much just got bored of it all. I think the switch from using sprites to 3-D backgrounds really turned me off from playing the game. 3D handheld pokemon looks ugly as shit.

>> No.3119842

black 2

>> No.3120162

>>3109282
>Help, I accidentally the shell

>> No.3120306

>>3119767
Finishing Diamond or Pearl was really redious, those two games have the slowest pacing in whole Pokemon history. There is a delay after each input, between changing menus in battle or items, and many more slowdowns. Multiplied by few thousands, they add up to wasted hours of gameplay. They have fixed that shit in Platinum though.

>> No.3120329

>>3109148
After Silver. Didn't like the designs after they started releasing games for the GBA.

>> No.3121253

>>3116883
earthquakes hurt magnets, dude

>> No.3121320 [DELETED] 

>>3116607
Kill yourself post deleting trip crybaby.
Kill yourself post deleting trip crybaby.
Kill yourself post deleting trip crybaby.
Kill yourself post deleting trip crybaby.

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>>3121253
But those magnets do not even touch the ground

>> No.3121724

>>3109526
it's 721 bub

>> No.3121793

>>3109148
Played the red edition until I got all 150 pokemon and all the game rewards you with is the fucking pokemon diploma - fuck off, never again.

>> No.3122442

All that work, for what?

CONGRATURATION

YOU HAVE WON A GREAT GAME!!

NOW GO REST OUR HEROES

When I 151/151'd Pokemon Blue, that's when I stopped. Zero sense of achievement

>> No.3122476

>>3121793
What did you want? Sex with Prof. Oak?

>> No.3122479

>>3122476

Yes please.

>> No.3122483

>>3109148
5th gen fucked everything

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>All these g1 faggots shitting up an already shit thread
I stopped caring about pokemon when I realized I'd be associated with these autistic fucks.

>> No.3122557

>>3119095
Why the fuck do so many people even want a Pokémon MMORPG? The existing fanmade ones are terrible, and connectivity in the current games are so easy that there isn't really anything a MMO would be able to add in said aspects.

It's not as bad as the people who say "Pokémon should be real time battles in a giant world like Skyrim!" but it's a dumb idea.

>> No.3122574

When Yu Gi Oh got big

Pokemon had a serious falling out with the people I went to middle school with. When YuGiOh cards started getting popular anything Pokemon that wasn't Pikachu shot down into annoying little brother territory. The show also stopped airing locally in the morning and the timeslot they moved it to meant I was only going to catch five minuets of an episode if I was lucky.

>> No.3122648

>>3112740
That's why they're good.

>> No.3122793

>>3122557
>The existing fanmade ones are terrible
Because they are made by uncreative pseudo-programmers that work hard for weeks in small teams whose salary is completely inexistent.

>Pokémon should be real time battles in a giant world like Skyrim!
Hey, that actually does sound like a good idea. Why do you think otherwise?

>> No.3122825

>>3122793
>Hey, that actually does sound like a good idea

/vr/ used to be good.

>> No.3122864

>>3122793
Bashing programmers for being shit is poor excuse, existing fanmade MMOs are, or were, as good as it was possible, it's just that this idea of all regions in one came cannot work because of experience scaling. You complete one region and have team of level 50-60 guys, complete another and have guys around 80 - 90, and then wat with remaining four regions? Chokeful with youngsters with level 100 Rattatas? And if you would tone down exp rate, you would make game grindy as hell and had to keep first E4 around levels 20-30, which would be laughable.
And what to do with player interaction? How do you endorse trading if there are no version exclusives and everything bar trade evolutions, can be achieved by yourself? How do you balance battles against players who grinded their teams to hell and back? There is no way to make working Pokemon MMO.

>>3122825
/vr/ is still pretty good

>> No.3123010

>>3112979
not /vr/ but i hear the super mystery dungeon games are good. if you like softcore roguelikes that is

>> No.3123104

>>3123010
Seconding this, Mystery Dungeon games are quite immersive and entertaining.
It's not really fair to claim that Pokemon series is completely stale, of course main games follow certain formula, but there are also other miniseries, like Pokemon Pinball (very decent and playable engine for Gameboy Classic) or Pokemon Ranger or Pokemon Conquest (crossover with Nobunaga's Ambition franchise) and several other games. They don't sell as good, so it's no wonder that Nintendo does not focus on them that much, but they are out there.

>> No.3123707

>>3122557
>>3122793
>"Pokémon should be real time battles in a giant world like Skyrim!" but it's a dumb idea.

Never heard of Pokémon rumble have we? The Wii one is fun as fuck, but can quickly become too repetitive.

>> No.3123716

>>3109148
After red and blue.

>> No.3123720

>>3109148
>implying I ever started
That shit's for babies bruh.

>> No.3123769

>>3123720
May I recommend you r/gaming? It's a fine place, designed for mature people with refined taste.

>> No.3123790

>>3123769
Maybe I was a little too old for Pòkémõn is all I'm saying.

Many people never really bothered with that shit, it was, as I said, for babies.

>> No.3123791

When X & Y came out

>> No.3124153

>>3123790
Too old and too young at the same time. When Pokemon games have shown up, they were popular either around 8-12 year olds that they were aimed at, or 20 - 30 year olds that are mature enough to not give a fuck about other people opinions about their hobbies. Many lads between 12 and 20 publicly stayed away from anything Pokemon related, shunning them as babby game (and secretely playing then when no one saw).

>> No.3124175

>>3123790
Shut up, faggot. All video games are toys.

>> No.3124602

>>3124153
>When Pokemon games have shown up, they were popular either around 8-12 year olds that they were aimed at, or 20 - 30 year olds that are mature enough to not give a fuck about other people opinions about their hobbies.

I'm old enough to remember when Pokemon came out and adults by and large scorned it as the babby-grade game it is.

The more jaded among us said Pokemon managed to eliminate the pesky stories and role playing elements from JRPGs.

Actually I did play the first game many years later in order to give it a fair shake. It was an OK time waster, but I really don't understand how it got so popular. Good marketing I guess.

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>>3124175
>All video games are toys.
Yes but only some toys are babby toys.

>> No.3124625

>>3111317
There's a slight blur over it.

>> No.3124653

When it stopped being satisfactory
Its not a fun game to begin with, its just the satisfaction of seeing the numbers go up, nothing that fun about a by-the-numbers RPG although i guess exploring and leveling up can be fun the first couple of times but grinding combats over and over to level up near the end game is nowhere close to "fun"
the early parts of the game are the mots fun imo

>> No.3124841

After gen 2

>> No.3124912

>>3124602
I really wonder what kind of country had community of adult veteran JRPG fans in the 90s when Pokemon came out. On top of that, community that was elitist enough to bring objective judgement on which games are for babbies and which ones are for those who seek true intellectual journey, also to look down upon pleb gamers who don't take their chinese cartoon games very seriously and dare to have fun.

>> No.3124920

>>3124653
Grinding combats near endgame means that you are not very good at those. Each generation had games which were easier to complete than previous one, and even in first generation, you can take on elite four and champion without tedious grinding in grass, experience granted by trainer encounters is enough. Unless you prefer approaching every boss fight with grossly overleveled character that takes enemies out in one hit as only viable strategy, but then it's no wonder that you find end game being not fun.

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>>3124912
>I really wonder what kind of country had community of adult veteran JRPG fans in the 90s when Pokemon came out.

The USA had plenty of veteran ***RPG*** fans (including JRPGs which owe much to the American games of the early home computer era) in 1995 when Pokemon was first released.

>be me in 1986
>9 years old
>Zelda

>be me in 1995
>18 years old
>Pokemon

By that time I'd been playing Frontier: Elite II, Ultima VI, VII, and Underworld, MOO, Might and Magic...

Why waste time with Pokemon? Of all the games out there? It was designed to keep children busy indefinitely, with an accessible interface and whizzy noises and animations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Z_k50ltkY

>On top of that, community that was elitist enough to bring objective judgement on which games are for babbies and which ones are for those who seek true intellectual journey, also to look down upon pleb gamers who don't take their chinese cartoon games very seriously and dare to have fun.

Oh your poor feelings. Pokemon's objectively for babies, an electronic pacifier for the 7-12 set.

If you played with pic would you get all sore when I called that a baby game too?

>> No.3124994

Somewhere between XY and ORAS. Sun and Moon will determine weather or not I even bother with the mainline games.

I heard the recent Mystery Dungeon on the 3DS is good.

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>>3124994
>this guy only plays the non-mainstream Pokemon games

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>> No.3125421

>>3124974
So you've played western RPGs and complaining about Pokemon dumbing down JRPGs was just talking out of your ass.
>designed to keep children busy indefinitely, with an accessible interface and whizzy noises and animations
Interface and audiovisual side in first generation is pretty much bare bones, rectangles filled with plain text, no sprite animations whatsoever, 'whizzy noises' being short electronic bleeps. Pretty much peak of Gameboy technical possibilities, but certainly nothing wow inducing. Ultima VII is a real eyecandy when compared to Red or Blue.
Also, you find 'accessible interface' as game flaw? For fucking real? Are you by any chance also crying that nowadays those pesky fucking normie younguns dare to enjoy games with graphics while true patrician taste covers text only games with unsigned keyboard shortcut commands as only way of navigating through them?

>> No.3125428

>>3125392
which Pokemon game is this?

>> No.3126274

>>3125428
Pokemon GO

>> No.3127301

>>3109660
Tell that to /doom/, desu.

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>>3118867
There's lots of good designs in Gen 4 and 5.
Gen 6 kind of sucked, but there were a few decent ones.
Don't be stupid.

>> No.3128286

>>3128054
>The Pokemon I like are good designs
Not that I don't agree with you, although a lot will argue half the gen 4 mons you've singled out suffer from over-designed syndrome.

That said I recently hatched a shiny Aegislash and caught a shiny Braivary. You jelly?

>> No.3128564

>>3117526
Maybe you grew up.

>> No.3129206

>>3118528
>Sexually-designed pokemon
You're in the right generation at least. I think you're talking about Lopunny.

>> No.3129474

>>3128054
Genwunner poppin in, nope those are shit.

>> No.3129480

when I couldn't open ruby remake on computer

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when music became more interesting than videogames.

but its a recurring thing anyway, ive replayed yellow and crystal, with its remakes, a couple of times since and its been awesome to fully dive into them.

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>>3125421
>So you've played western RPGs and complaining about Pokemon dumbing down JRPGs was just talking out of your ass

Zelda is a western RPG? How about Phantasy Star and Final Fantasy?

In order to make your point you had to lie like a kike.

That was your whole post - trying to make me out to have said thing I never did so you can make your ass burn less.

Pokemon is a babby game franchise. This is not up for debate.

>> No.3129896

>>3124920
>Grinding combats near endgame means that you are not very good at those.

Grinding is the only thing in the game though.

Some people don't think grinding is *the* essential element to RPGs anyway. Mostly non-Japs.

>> No.3129998

>>3129507
all those games you've listed on one breath are western RPGs. Zelda is only jRPG you've mentioned in whole post, and whoa, playing one extremely mainstream game that everyone had heard of, when you were 9, surely makes you seasoned jRPG expert that can make judgements on which franchises contributed to the genre and which ones dumbed it down. You haven't even refuted actual argument about games you've listed being much more appealing to the eye and, by your logic, more fit for babby game title, but ignoring arguments is what to be expected from a /pol/tard. I really wish I'll have as much time in my life when I'll be 40 as you to hang around in a thread dedicated to franchise I hate, for DAYS straight, just to post baby pictures, brag about my mature, refined taste and look down upon people who were born later than me.

Your opinion is as hot as irrelevant in the face of statistics on age range of Pokemon fans. This is not up to debate.

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>>3129998
>Zelda is only jRPG you've mentioned in whole post

I mentioned Zelda because that was my introduction to JRPGs and millions of others could say the same thing. I also played Ys on the IIGS, Final Fantasies, Phantasy Stars, among many MANY other JRPGs by the time Pokemon came out. I did not list every single game I had played, but I did list a couple very deep Western RPGs that were of more interest to a RPGer than some game where grinding was the whole point.

>refuted actual argument

If you'd care to present an argument, I could probably refute it. All you've done here is complain about your hurt feelings.

>I really wish I'll have as much time in my life when I'll be 40 as you to hang around in a thread dedicated to franchise I hate, for DAYS straight, just to post baby pictures, brag about my mature, refined taste and look down upon people who were born later than me.

It's not as if I hang in here 24/7 just waiting to torture you. I was simply making a point about Pokemon, one which mirrors that of OP. If he was born fifteen or twenty years earlier he probably wouldn't have bothered with Pokemon either.

An electronic pacifier is what Pokemon is designed to be. If you actually unironically enjoy it as an adult that's fine, but I'm not sure why. I listed a host of other games with a lot more going on story- and gameplay-wise but you simply discard this by impotently knocking my taste in games.

Pokemon is a kid's game, it's OK that it is. Your feelings about the matter aren't powerful enough to change this fact.

>> No.3130090

>>3130040
If you really want to make a point about being 'jRPG expert', you should've really started with listing jRPGs, simple as that, kinda hard to believe you when you list completely different games and when you drop two additional well known franchise names that everyone and their mother played.
>If you'd care to present an argument
There was an argument, but it's generally much easier to jump on single word in whole post than to read it as a whole; isn't it? First two generations of Pokemon games both look and sound very bland when compared to other games, namely both western and eastern RPGs of those times, mostly because of lack of representation of main series on non handheld consoles (unless you count Stadium games as ones, but those are entirely optional and not as popular). What drawn masses of people, both old and young, was mechanics based around thrill of collecting things and full customization of your party instead of relying on given set of characters that you have to deal with regardless of liking them or not, like most jRPGs usually done. Battle mechanics looks simplistic, but only if you overlevel, use only damaging moves and one shot everything, same can be said and done in most RPG games - playing around with predictions, buffs, nerfs and statuses is viable and actually required to complete more challenging parts of modern Pokemon games.
>It's not as if I hang in here 24/7 just waiting to torture you
But you actually do, not a single post of mine was left without response. Personally, I prefer to hang around in threads about games or consoles that I like and ignore those that I don't (maybe dropping a bait here and there, but not monitoring it for next few hundred hours), but it seems like some people like you just need to fuel their rage by waging pointless arguments and living in a delusion that they are making people buttmad with their retardation. So far, I'm only having a blast

>> No.3130165

>>3109148
Since Digimon

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>>3130090
>If you really want to make a point about being 'jRPG expert', you should've really started with listing jRPGs

I never made that claim, you're trying to portray it as if I did though which is shady and kikey. You made the claim that there was no place that had adult veteran JRPG players, which was false and I BTFO'd you.

I have played a whole lot of different Japanese and western RPGs. Anyway if you wish to portray yourself as an RPG expert even worthy of talking on my level you should really start by listing off all the games you ever played and also write me a couple papers on how they affected you as you grew up.

>There was an argument

No in fact you made no argument whatsoever, not even a hint of one. You merely whined about my passing judgement on your children's game. That's not an argument, it's just sniveling.

>First two generations of Pokemon games

Ah, now you're shifting the goalposts and talking exclusively about Gen 1 Pokemon? Why? What's this have to do with anything?

>What drawn masses of people, both old and young

But let's face it, at least 99% of Pokemon players are under 12.

>mechanics based around thrill of collecting things and full customization of your party

Why go for a tyke game instead of Tactics Ogre instead? There's no reason to even play Pokemon, the babby game, unless you're a little kid and can't play a more in-depth game.

>only if you overlevel, use only damaging moves and one shot everything, same can be said and done in most RPG games

Blah blah, you're still calling Pokemon an RPG? It's a game devoid of RPG entirely. Anyway your argument is weak, 'lol since you can learn how to beat other games and game the system that means Pokemon's just as good and deep haha' is not an argument.

Nothing you've said here is an actual argument. It's just reasons why little kids like you like Pokemon.

>But you actually do, not a single post of mine was left without response.

You're cute that's why.

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>>3128054
The few good designs that stand out don't make up for the mountains of garbage ones.

>> No.3130262

>>3130040
>I mentioned Zelda because that was my introduction to JRPGs
>his "introduction to JRPGs" was an action adventure game

No wonder you're talking like such a fucking retard.

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>>3130205
You know what? You win. I really can't argue anymore against someone who cals anyone that doesn't agree with him a Jew, ignores the numbers, calls anything that is too complicated to him a kiddie stuff in every sentence and plays a broken record of LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I surrender. Go to /pol/ and brag about BTFOing another hidden JIDF, or stay on /vr/ and raise your self esteem as a king of oldfags that enlightens younger people that they are enjoying wrong games and in a wrong way. Any option is equally fine and has no meaning. Remeber to respond to this post to claim your superiority and to have a last word.

>> No.3130272

>>3130205
>But let's face it, at least 99% of Pokemon players are under 12.

Not getting into this whole thing of yours, but when I was big into Pokemon during Gen 1 and 2 I was in university and a big part of the reason is because it was so popular there. The elements and raising combined with competitive battling was like nothing we'd played. Calling it a baby game is kind of hilarious.

>> No.3130275

>>3109148
Pokemon turned to shit starting with gen 2, generation 1 for lyfe.

>> No.3130281

>>3109660

this comment proves trolling is an artform.

i am in awe of the author

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We can all agree that Pokemon started getting progressively worse after gen 3 right?

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>>3130205
Some people hate /vr/ without visiting it because they are convinced it's full of retro hipsters that pretend to play vidya since 60s and shit on anything on the basis of it being popular, new or too simple for their superior tastes. Those people are correct. I don't even feel like defending my homeboard anymore.

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>>3130293
>retro hipsters that pretend to play vidya
resellers?

>> No.3130298

>>3113062
Y u lyin

>> No.3130309

>>3130205
>only serious, hard and complex games are ever worth being played
You must be fun guy at parties
>pokemon tactics are primitive and subpar to real rpg games because I say so
Not having any friends must be harsh, man, never having a decent battle against human opponent who is able think and all

>> No.3130327

>>3130296
Resellers know better than to visit here. Blatant elitism should become bannable offense though, especially when performed by people who feel superior about blowing hundreds of their autismbucks or whole allowance money on pieces of turds simply because they happen to be rare

>> No.3130357

>>3130289
best gen: gen you've started with
point of deterioration gen: two or three gens later

Most people who responded her happened to start with gen I and hate everything that happened after gen II or III, but those who started later, like Hoennbabbies, feel a burnout somewhere around gen V, Pokemon does not really get better or worse, it's just you can only do finite number of loops over the years after you became interested in it before growing bored out of it.
I've started with Yellow and got completely bored after completing Black 2, But I'm not going to blame designs or contents, it's just me moving on to other series and having no patience to breed/grind for competitive battles or catch them all again (more of 'them all' each game on top of that). Each new game is objectively more complex (maybe aside from ORAS, big step down for the sake of graphics) and has more fun things to do, it's just not appealing for those of us who started years earlier

>> No.3130368

>>3130281
art takes many forms and shapes too, you can gather several (you)s with single sentence like this absolute madman >>3109660, or craft long and elaborate shitpost like >>3130205. Every method is unique and beautiful in its own way.

>> No.3130392

>>3109148
After I beat Pokemon red. I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I could not stomach starting over in a sequel that is the same thing yet I was suckered into the Tony Hawk bandwagon. I was able to play Ruby but was not as hyped to reach the final battle.

>> No.3130406

>>3130309
>only serious, hard and complex games are ever worth being played
I never said that. Again you have to make crap up and say I said it to make your point. That's lame.

What I said, quite clearly, is that once you're a certain age a one-dimensional game like Pokemon loses any luster it may have had.

>pokemon tactics are primitive and subpar to real rpg games because I say so

Actually you are the one who implied this:

>Battle mechanics looks simplistic

Then you qualified your admission by claiming that it's really ok because of a bunch of bullshit you pulled out of your ass.

>ignores the numbers

What numbers again?

>calls anything that is too complicated to him a kiddie stuff

Pokemon's a kid's game, and that's OK, you're the one sitting here spouting complete nonsense now.

>plays a broken record of LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

It's not that I can't HEAR you, it's that you're not making any salient or sensible points, just appeals to emotion and accusations of snobbery.

>Remeber to respond to this post to claim your superiority and to have a last word.

OK, consider it done.

What's sad is that you could have tried to make decent points, and real arguments, but instead you resort immediately to accusations of snobbery, elitism, my (imagined by you) lack of JRPG experience, etc. Now you're mad because I won't have a 'proper' discussion with you? LOL, I bet you're a liberal too speaking of /pol/.

>> No.3130414

>>3130293
>pretend to play vidya since 60s and shit on anything on the basis of it being popular

On the contrary, I only 'shat' on one popular franchise - Pokemon, and I didn't even really shit on it, just pointed out the fact that it's for small children. It's not like Nintendo didn't know this going in and when your mom bought you Pokemon she knew it too. It was a tool to shut your kids up in the pre-iPad times.

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>>3130262
It was literally America's intro to JRPGs.

I played Ys three years after Zelda, and many other JRPGs as well, but OK there meme wizard.

My disdain for Pokemon as a simple grinding-centric time waster is BECAUSE I enjoy JRPGs, not because I have no experience with them.

>> No.3130439

>>3130406
9/10 impression of that guy, but you went a little bit overboard in few paragraphs and forgot baby picture

>> No.3130459

>>3130392
>I could not stomach starting over in a sequel that is the same thing

It's especially painful when you don't give a shit about the singleplayer, and only play for the multiplayer.

They should just open up the whole entire world right off the bat. I don't really care about beating the gymleaders, or stopping the evil Team Whatever for the twentieth time; I play for the multiplayer. If I wanted a singleplayer story, I'd play Final Fantasy.

>> No.3130470

>>3130459
>demanding every game to be MMO
WoW really ruined a lot of lives

>> No.3130483

>>3109148
after collecting all 150 in Blue. I played through Yellow for the having a pikachu novelty, but when they announced there were more pokemon coming I just wasn't as interested.

It's like painting a fantastic picture all over your wall and then being told you gotta go do someone elses, and someone elses until an arbitrary quota is passed. It went from fun game to series of chores in instalments.

I played bits of the latest one XY I think? that lets all your team get EXP even if they didn't fight and you got to travel fast really early in. So the franchise went in the right direction eventually.

>> No.3130517

I don't know... when was the first game released?

Sometime around then.

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>>3110872
Triggered

>> No.3131059

>>3129507
fuck off /pol/ stay in your containment board with the rest of the festering shit.

>> No.3131062

>>3130271
Typical jew, acting like you're the victim and expecting everyone to come to your defense.

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Happened to me just yesterday
>talk with younger brother
>pokemon comes up as topic
>says stuff about triple battles and characteristics
>have no idea what that is
>dude, everyone knows that, it's not even new
>only aware of mega evolutions because these were in videos and then realize stopping at silver was 15 years ago

>> No.3131072

>>3131059
Babby status=triggered

I stopped playing Pokémon after gen1. I tried to get into the later gems, but I just don't have the time or inclination to spend hours chasing 200 new Pokémon.

>> No.3131106

>>3131072
Don't take it personally, but I find it really rich to see people who browse 4chan and play vidya complaining about lack of time to play vidya. Just admit that other games are simply more appealing

>> No.3131112

>>3131072
I don't care about your opinion about the games, I care that because some disagrees with you, that makes them a jew, which apparently is just the worst because you think everyone is just as insecure about themselves and blame it on racial reasonings when really your failure because you're a fucking failure, and you would have always been despite race.

So if you're gonna do that shit, please keep it to the "I hate myself" board /pol/ while people you can rationally think will continue to the discuss games.

>> No.3131230

>>3131106
Not that guy, but I really only come here when I'm at work and can't really be playing anything but I can at least talk about it. When I'm at home or the like, I will use free time to play instead of read this place.

Although even though I find I have less and less time to play games these days, I try not to complain about it.

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>>3131112
Let it go, friend. Tumb/pol/s are impossible to reason with and function properly outside their hugbox and it seems like moderators have long given up on cleaning shit that spills out on every single board. There is no visible chance of /pol/ ever getting deleted and users IP banned like it happened with /fur/ in the past as underages that flow in there generate too much traffic and revenue to pass it on. Whenever someone blatantly ignores your posts and calls you a kike, it's dead giveaway to stop responding and move on, there is nothing you can do about it.

>> No.3131253

>>3131230
Same here, man, I get you. Although it seems like 4chan has passing fads where everyone either pretends to be NEETs and laugh at wageslaves while rolling in autismbucks, or pretends to be hard working men with social life, status, family and great income and laughs at basement dweller losers. Sometimes it's kinda confusing to figure out what fellow posters are actually doing with their lives.

>> No.3131276

>>3131253
>Sometimes it's kinda confusing to figure out what fellow posters are actually doing with their lives.

Why care in the first place what other posters are doing with their lives? That's what I don't get.

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>>3130271
I a the king of the oldfags.

Nah actually I'm not, just better than you and more seasoned and with superior taste in games.

What do you like to play?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdHj8HlobU

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>>3131112
It's your debating style that makes you into a Jew, not anything else. You're still doing it too.

Oh your precious little feelings.

>> No.3131516

>>3131507
>Claims to be old
>still thinks taste is objective

This place is sad sometimes.

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>>3131516
Good taste is universal.

>> No.3131531

>>3131521
Don't bother answering me, I don't care. But instead ask yourself how much of that is trolling and how much you legitimately believe it. Because if so, you are still stuck in the mentality of a child and that's not a good way to go through life. Good luck.

>> No.3131594

>>3109148
Gen III. But I still love Gen I and II games.

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>>3131531
Years of listening to Jewish lies have closed your eyes and ears to reality. And reality is,, thread got completely derailed and now 5 or more people are competing at pretending to be that /pol/shit.

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>>3109148
Never. There are still dozens of Pokemon I love. The only games j have ever disliked were x/y because they felt bland as shit. The only starters I don't like are ten 5's, but I don't hate them. I just really dot care for them.

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>>3131650
I forgot to note that gen 2 is Pokemon in its prime though. It's music and artwork make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

>> No.3131672

>>3131650
>>3131659
I also think Gen 2 was it's prime. I burnt out somewhere during X/Y but some day I'm sure I'll get back into it. I'm one of the people who's still been dreaming of an MMO one day.

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>>3131531
>But instead ask yourself how much of that is trolling and how much you legitimately believe it.

Actually none of it was trolling. I legitimately believe, as does Nintendo Japan and Nintendo of America, that Pokemon is a kid's game. There are many kid's games on the market and I don't see how this is controversial OR offensive.

EXCEPT...

That there are meme lord level over 9000 wizards about who unironically believe that it's a good / deep game, and even more deluded folk who think it's a good RPG!

There are so many *actually* good games out there to play, even if your thing is collecting / assembling a custom army / etc.

>> No.3131731

>>3131726
I do think it's a deep game though, there are a lot of variables in choosing your pokeyman team.

>> No.3131746

>>3131731
>there are a lot of variables in choosing your pokeyman team

By that time if you wanted deep gameplay with lots of variables in choosing your own custom team you'd have been playing Tactics Ogre.

Pokemon is not any kind of benchmark for this and people still enjoy Tactics Ogre relatively (99%) unchanged today on several systems because of its deep gameplay.

This is just one of many examples of course.

>> No.3131754

>>3131726
Not him, I'm >>3117468 The reason I always liked Pokemon and the reason it was so popular was that it was far more interesting than most JRPGs. The main game is always a cake walk, but battling other people got into some fun strategy that most of these games didn't have then.

I don't think anyone would have argued they were made for kids, but that didn't stop us from enjoying it. Heck, when you get down to it most games and almost all Nintendo first party games are made for kids anyways.

>> No.3131757

I never even played gold/silver, because my parents were cheap and wouldn't buy me it. By the time I was old enough to buy my own stuff we were already on Ruby/Sapphire and the deigns already looked like recycled garbage.

So my nostalgia ends with R/B/Y, and there are only 151 pokemon as far as I'm concerned.

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>>3131112
>>3131059
>being this triggered over a word

My sides. Hang yourself as soon as possible.

>> No.3131768

>>3131754
The two-player battle aspect, I would agree, is one of the neatest parts of the game and it's unfortunate that there weren't lots of other games that allowed for this.

I bought FFT for iOS in hopes of seeing another meme lord on the bus / train playing Tactics when I was a public transport commuter, but never did see anybody playing it. I would always sit near the back so I could scope the people's screens too.

Did you have a corps of Pokemon players in your area that regularly battled?

>> No.3131789

>>3131768
>The two-player battle aspect, I would agree

Even in single player, easy as it is to over-level there weren't really other JRPGs of that complexity level.

All the action back then was at the actual college. Gen 1 had a bunch of people, but it was Gold/Silver when it exploded. Any time in the cafeteria there would be tables full of people playing, and gathering in halls. That was also when IV's and effort training was being figured out and talking about it constantly.

>> No.3131812

>>3131746
Tactics Ogre is actually relatively shallow for the genre.

>> No.3132204

is sun/moon are bad then i'm fucking done.

>> No.3132257

>>3109327

>kid

So owning a fucking gb classic makes you a youngster? I remember more grownups playing tetris on the clapper and in bed than a frigging console on a TV, I don't think that applies for that poster to be a kiddo
>buzzwords are the memes of text

>> No.3132262

>>3109519
>Not playing mtg back in the day

>> No.3132275

>>3109148
It was strange, I was so into the first ones, guy both and yellow, wart he'd the anime, got stadium, even the trading card game, but I never played any after gen 1. Later I emulated the remake, it was ok.

>> No.3132452

Around X and Y but I am going play the upcoming Sun/Moon

>> No.3132552

>>3132204

holy

X/Y was also great... only the megas were bs..

>> No.3132784

>>3109148
During White play through.
I realized that I was only playing it because of nostalgia and the story, and I finally left it behind me.
Still, I kinda wnat to finish stadium and maybe play colosseum and gale of darkness sometime, maybe pokepark.
But I won't touch a more recent pokemon game ever again.

>> No.3132926

Is there apatch for the real time clock for pokemon silver? I want to play some pokemon but rumors say about a holy patch that let's you change time without having to do the password bullshit, just changing time in the pokegear screen.

>> No.3133336

>>3131764
>He's thinks other people should be treated with respect
>He should kill himself
>Why do I have no friends?
>Why is my life nothing but pain?
>Truly I am pathetic.

>> No.3133536

>>3131253
There is all kinds of middle ground though.
People just love to go to extremes.
I am a hybrid with my own business so I play games all day waiting for clients.

>> No.3133554

Very recently actually. Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire were the first ones I have not even pirated.

But then I found out that you can transfer pokes from 3ds red blue and yellow to sun and moon.

I have bought a gameboy flash cart.

I have haxxed my 3ds.

Soon my original team from pokemon red will ride again! IT WILL BE GLORIOUS!

>> No.3134021

>>3109148
Played it for like 4 or 5 years, then the main games were repetitive and flat out annoying to play and boring. I only play the spinoffs now.

>> No.3134113

>400+ posts
You guys always cared

>> No.3134129

>>3134113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJqOfUnIUh4

>> No.3134142

Gen 2.

>> No.3134205

>>3121724
I took that pic and sold X&Y before Hoopa and Volcanion was released.
cba to wait for them.

>> No.3134235

I played pokemon in this order
silver>crystal>emerald>fire red>crystal>emerald>red

Only way i could enjoy pokemon again is by wiping 2nd and 3rd gen from memory and replaying.

What do ?

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>>3133336
>all this projection because someone isn't offended by Jew jokes on 4chan

I don't even know what's going through your mind .

Please don't ever leave your house and go to a comedy show. You might hear an offensive joke, then you'll have an asthma attack when you notice that most of the room is actually laughing while dweebs like you are treated like the plague.

>> No.3135749

>>3130357
This is post sums up pretty much every post in this thread. It seems that way with a lot of people I know IRL too. Most of them started with Gen II shit and they got burnt out around Gen V.

>> No.3135754

I kind of lost interest after Black.
HG/SS was pretty cool with some of the shit you could do and the story didn't feel as stupid as recent games.
Blacks protag didn't look convoluted either. Was easy to look at. Wasn't a fan of a lot of the new pokemon though. I only still play so I have something to do with my cousins when I move too far away and shit.

3D looks bad IMO.

>> No.3135764

After Gen 2 honestly. I have enjoyed a couple one offs, like Snap and Gale of Darkness though.

I tried playing X/Y this gen actually because it looked promising and different but turns out, still just the same old Pokemon.

Won't play a new Pokemon game again I think until they have a real open world 3d rpg with online elements.

>> No.3135783

Gen 1 > Gen 2 > Gen 5 > Gen 4 > Gen 3 > Gen 6

>> No.3135858

>>3109148
I still play, but both X/Y and OR/AS were way too easy and boring. The graphics are nice, but that doesn't really make up for the piss easy difficulty. Idk, maybe it's due to me being older and more capable of creating a good team, but the previous games just seem more fun and a little more challenging still.
I hope Sun&Moon is a bit better balanced

>> No.3135882

>>3135783
Gen 3 wasn't THAT bad. Also gen 2 is better than gen 1.

>> No.3135921

>>3135783
It's more like:
(in terms of original games)
Gen 2 > Gen 3 > Gen 1 > Gen 5 = Gen 4 > Gen 6
(Remakes)
Gen 4 >= Gen 3 > Gen 6

>> No.3136183

>>3109282
that's fucking grim

>> No.3136378

I stopped caring after gen 2 but I picked it up again after a few years.

I don't get why so many people don't like X/Y that much. I loved the exp share, it was nice to have a team of really high leveled Pokemon at the E4. If only the game was much harder (higher levels; also >only 4 Pokemon for each E4 member) it would have been really fucking good imo.

1>2>6>4>5>3, main games only

I like them all but I just can't bring myself to enjoy the Hoenn region.

>> No.3138763

>>3135418
>Aren't jews the worst? Kill them all race war now.
>Fuck off.
>You mad? You triggered? Go to your safe space pussy bitch you can't handle my enlightened intelligence.
Just kill yourself man.

>> No.3138765

Why do you are so many peole complaining about the difficulty? Do you even try post game content? Like battle towers or whatever they are now? Shit where it's impossible to be overlevel and requires pure strategy?

>> No.3138780

>>3109148
Probably 5th gen. I wasn't really excited when the 5th gen games came out and I never beat any of them.

I enjoyed 6th gen though and I will be playing 7th gen.

>> No.3138813

>>3138765
Aside from Mewtwo and (of course) the whole of Kanto and Red in GSC I always lose interest after the E4 for some reason.

>> No.3138871

>>3109148
After gen 3. The ridiculous pokemon designs killed it for me. Besides, the gameplay is always the same.

>> No.3138901

>>3131059
>>3133336
Go have a cry, you whining pussy.

>> No.3138926

I never cared.

I was in my mid teens when pokeman came out. I always thought it looks like babbys first rpg.

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>>3138765
>Do you even try post game content?

The stuff that hasn't been in a game in the series since 2012?

>> No.3139128

>>3130470
>>demanding every game to be MMO
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not saying Pokemon should be an MMO, I'm talking about stuff like link battles and trading; features that have always been a part of Pokemon since gen 1.

>> No.3139143

>>3130470
I would fucking love it if Pokemon opened up the whole world and made the trainers, gym leaders, and various wild encounters scale to your badge progress.

Hell, I would love a Level 0 style hack where Pokemon stats were fixed, making you venture all over the world instead of grinding.

>> No.3139157

>>3130470
Wow looked like shit to me and the one MMO I ever played, Ragnarok was garbage and I hated it.

But I would play the fuck out a Pokemon MMO. Give me a massive open world where there are 700+ types of Pokemon roaming around in various grasses, forests, streams etc.

Have most of it just work like normal single player Pokemon but more open. But you see other trainers (players) out and about and can offer to battle them if you want.

Then have a bunch of competitive stuff like each gym be level capped and themed and have players compete to be gym master. So the Mulberry City gym is say Grass level 30 and various players can compete using level capped 30 grass types.

Or whatever, there are all sorts of things they could do. The real strength of Pokemon as a game has always been the multiplayer battles. Single player game is a neat adventure but it's always easy and doesn't require any of the pretty amazing depth the games have.

That's why an MMO would work so well with it, all you need is a big world where people can go to build whatever teams they want and then lots of opportunities for versus battling once you've got your teams ready. At this point that's what it would take to bring me back into the game.

>> No.3139175

>>3138926
Oldfag here, and I've noticed this a lot. It's weird, but the people who hate Pokemon almost all end up having been 13 - 20 when it got really big. In that age range where kid oriented things look really shitty. The ones younger than that got caught up in it and the ones older saw past the kiddiness at the depth that was there. But to that mid age range at the time it seems many people were turned off.

>> No.3139178

>>3139157
I believe the competitive base is a major reason why Nintendo doesn't want a Pokemon MMO game. It is ultimately aimed at young kids, and a bunch of try-hards who take it seriously screaming at little kids all day over how they didn't optimize their entire team will make for a community that is worse than even League or Path of Exile.

Nintendo often makes great decisions and it has multiple franchises under its name that straight-up print money, but they do not believe that games should be played at a competitive level, and should be played for the entertainment of the individual.

>> No.3139190

>>3139178
Huh... I never looked at it like that but you're probably right. It's sad because I think it would be really fun, but I agree looking at it like that Nintendo would be nuts to actually do it.

>> No.3139521

>>3109148
Second generation was the peak for me. I loved everything about it. I lost interest after that though.

>> No.3139527

>>3111564
>Not liking awesome crocodile/alligator starter.

Fag.

>> No.3139529

>>3139521
Also, I did play Heart Gold, Soul Silver and enjoyed that as well.

>> No.3139539

>>3139178
Yet they host annual Video Game Championships.

No, really. The only thing Nintendo can't seem to be able accept is online bullying and trash talk.

>> No.3139707

Gen 3.

I finished Sapphire once and never touched it again.

>> No.3140132

>>3139178
Yeah and besides, there's already a "tourney scene" version of Pokemon. It's the TCG.

>> No.3140147

>>3138926
Really? What's wrong with you? Are you documented as suffering from mental defect?

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>>3138763
>>>Aren't jews the worst? Kill them all race war now.

Where did anyone say that though? You started crying because someone was called a Jew, and that's it.

Although it's true, Jews like you really are the worst, and race wars are the greatest part of Pokemans. Jews also love race wars, which is why they race-bait Pokemans constantly to escalate them. Even Pikachus agree, so it seems you're in the minority. Don't like it, go back to Auschwitz. Not exactly a "safe space" but a lot of people there with sympathize with your feelings.

>> No.3140225

>>3139175
13-99 you mean to say.

>> No.3140230

>>3140132
I took my kid to a Pokemon tourney and it was 50% neckbeards and 50% children.

At first I assumed the neckbeards were parents - nope! They were entrants. My kid got smoked in the round robin by two guys older than I am and he hasn't wanted to go back since.

>> No.3140232

>>3140230
Oh, and I realize this is almost too stereotypical to believe, but the second dude had a katana-umbrella.

>> No.3140361

>>3140230
I'm surprised they don't make an age cut at those tournaments. Like two divisions or something.

>> No.3140470

>>3140230
>>3140232
Tell us more.

>> No.3140508

>>3109148
i replayed gen 2 on a psp emulator back in highschool and i realized more than half the time i was just holding down the speedup button and turbo a while grinding

>> No.3140515

>>3140361
There is actually. Juniors, Seniors and Masters. That guy is bullshitting us. Unless it was a local tourney in which case what the fuck was he expecting?

>>3140230
Make your kid git gud first before taking him to tourneys. Even kids metagame hardcore for these. I'm not sure what you were expecting.

>> No.3140567

>>3140470

Then he saw a unicorn and killed Hitler 2.0 with AIDS waves.

>> No.3140708

>>3140132
Fuck, you're dense.

There's a VGC too.

>> No.3140903

>>3140708
Cool the nerd-rage, asperger's. That doesn't contradict what I just said.

>> No.3140908

>>3123720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhY-dElllk

>> No.3141190

>>3138901
>>3140150
You are legit retarded, either go back to /pol/ or kill yourself. The sooner the better.

>> No.3141191

>>3140908
What is this garbage?

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>>3141190

>> No.3141571

>>3140515
>Unless it was a local tourney

It was

> what the fuck was he expecting?

The phrase "contest for children" comes to mind, and all you're saying is "Yeah and Homer beat their brains out!"

>> No.3141573

>>3141571
Wait, I'm just realizing that you're almost certainly one of these guys, aren't you?

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When Mega Evolution kicked in with the Kanto starter they gave you in X. That game is waaaay easier than the already easy previous entries, even without EXP. Share, no Megas, and no grinding. I realized I was more into finding clothing for the girl protag than actually finding Pokemon.

The designs were fine, but the world was flat boring and there wasn't anything interesting other than the few exploration quirks. Like the cave with the behind camera angle instead of overhead and riding the Rhydon through the snow.

The thing is I thoroughly White and Platinum. They were easy and the story childish, but it was at a fun ride with cool locations. Platinum has my favorite setting with variety of locations and fucking Spear Pillar. Climbing up Spear Pillar to confront Team Galactic then getting sucked into that other dimension was fun, if not underutilized. Also, the music was fucking great.

White's story was nothing special, but I liked the roughness of the 3d with 2d sprites. The music was great and seeing Plasma's methods was enough of a change along with N's encounters to at least come off as TRYING something new. Then wrap it up with a battle with legendaries against N... it was a cool set-up. Best part was being forced into using only 5th gen Pokemon until post-game, and the fast-paced battle system (X fucked that up).

Overall I'd have to say 5th gen is my favorite in terms of designs. I don't think they look like Digimon and are a cool urban parallel to the rustic, older designs. I've been playing the games as they came out in my free time. I'm 26 now and X just sucked way too hard to continue.

BTW favorite Pokemon? Going have to go with Quagsire over here. I had one that kicked ass in Netbattle with Seismic Toss/Yawn/Earthquake/Counter. He was a defensive, countering asshole. Good times.

>> No.3141654

>>3140508
>Sony fan
>short attention span

You don't say.

>> No.3141665

>>3140230
It is a competitive game, there will always be adults competing unless there is a specified age cutoff.

The fact that it is Pokemon instead of basketball or whatever just means that the adults competing are more likely to be neckbeards.

>> No.3141672

>>3116456
SUrfing Pikachu was awesome. I did the same thing, spending my whole 5th grade summer getting one and my file was erased too.

I think that was my breaking point to nihilism, honestly. Well, on top of other things in life lol

>> No.3141726

>>3116456
>>New Game
>>Options
Ooooh, that must have hurt.

But look at it this way; you beat it, you caught 'em all, and you have a story to tell. If the battery chose that moment to die, then maybe that was God's way of telling you that the game had already offered all the enjoyment that it could, and that you should quit while you're ahead.

>> No.3141765

>>3109148
Diamond and Pearl
As soon as I saw Rhytard or whatever his name was I noped out.

>> No.3141772

>>3109148
I still care about the franchise, but I stopped caring about restoring my old carts with fresh batteries after I couldn't break the solder on the tabs holding the fucking things in place. Would rather just emu if it's going to be a little bitch about being fixed.

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>>3141190
>butthurt kike whines about le /pol/ boogeyman again every time he gets triggered

Gas yourself.

>> No.3143610

>>3141212
>>3142512
Take your inferiority complex back to /pol/. Noone is impressed.

>>3141726
Also you stop tripfagging. Noone gives a shit about you beyond whatever you're currently posting so there's no need for it.

>> No.3145528

Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

Then someone broke into my apartment, stole my DS Lite and just yeah.

It had my emerald version inside the GBA slot too.

Fuck me. Can't even find real cartridges on ebay anymore, they are all fakes or stupid expensive.

>> No.3145536

i still like it. i hope they keep making games and i got a chance to play pokken recently and it was cool to see what that was about.

i like what the franchise communicates. to be fair with you though I never finished B/W and that was it for me.

>> No.3145557

When it turned into a bad anime simulator with none of the things that other anime simulators fun or interesting

I didn't hate D/P but black and white felt like a bad season of Digimon and X/Y were just straight up retarded. The series went from just being Pokemon to nintendo RPG lite featuring Pokemon and doesn't seem to be evolving from there.

>> No.3145679

After Red/Blue/Yellow. I tried Gold/Silver, but just couldn't get into it the same way I did for Red.

>> No.3146469

>>3109148
gen 3

My friend let me borrow it for a couple days and I just couldn't get into it like I did with the previous games. Kind of felt like I'd outgrown it.

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>>3109148
Crystal was the pinnacle of Pokémon. Ruby and Sapphire were such disappointments in comparison to me that it completely turned me off the franchise.

>> No.3146568

>>3109148
I love gen 1 and 2. Hated it from Gen 3 on. Now playing Gen 6 just because I bought the 3DS, but the difference in quality is staggering.

>> No.3147219

>>3109148
Never. I still play.

I've played all gens, and Gen 6 is actually my second favorite. It brought back all that Pokemon Stadium nostalgia.

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>>3143610
>Noone is impressed.

Who is Noone? Also if you're not impressed, why are you responding to every one of my posts? You seem pretty impressed by the fact that not everyone on this site is a triggered autistic tumblrfag like you.

>> No.3150570

>>3150308
The fact you keep replying and bumping this thread when it's almost dead with maximum edge posts proves you're just a friendless loser whose desperate for attention from anyone who will have it to you. You're lucky I like this thread otherwise I probably would just ignored you and then you'd have to reflect your wasted life instead if googling "butler pikachu".

Here, have a (You) out of sheer pity.

>> No.3150574

when I got to sixth grade
it truly blows my mind how it's still this popular (not judging, just, I don't get it)

>> No.3150604

>>3150570

I actually used 'sage' in that post to avoid bumping the thread. I was ready to let it die but look what you've done now. Thanks for the (You) anyway, faggot.

>> No.3151089

>>3109148
Strange, I played a lot of jrpgs as a kid and watched the shit out of the show but when i got pokemon yellow as a gift from my dad, I genuinely had zero interest in playing the game, it felt boring to me and there were better RPGs out there imo.

>> No.3151104

Honestly, I loved all V gens up until VI. Then everything went to shit. X/Y and ORAS are extremely mediocre and just painfully easy, even with the exp share turned off. I know the game is designed with kids in mind, but College-Age kids are probably the second-largest (or fuck, maybe even largest at this point, I know very few college-age kids who don't own the new Pokemon) so some higher difficulty would be nice. I liked how Black and White 2 had the option for a Hard Mode, and although not much of a difference, I still appreciated it. The system for unlocking it was convoluted as fuck though.

Nuzlocke stuff makes the game more challenging but I never like to have to impose my own challenge on the game to enjoy it.

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>>3130212
That feels horrifically cherry-picked. Recent generations definitely have a different (and somewhat worse) style to new generations, but it's not that bad. /vp/ for a while did a "what if" where they redesigned pokemon as if they were in newer/older generations - and it's fairly accurate. Included in this picture are Gen 5 Suicune, Gen 4 Fearow, Gen 4 Farfetch'd, Gen 5 Electabuzz, Gen 4 Dugtrio, and Gen 1 Hydreigon and Magmortar.

>> No.3151212

>>3151089
>better RPGs
Pokemon is JRPGs stripped to their core. Grinding.

>> No.3151218

>>3151182

>That hydreigon and Magmortor

why aren't they real

>> No.3151251

>>3151182
There is very little there unless you want to get autistic about stats and stuff you can't see unless you datamine. But I stopped caring after yellow because I knew what it was. It was going to be sold over and over with new monsters and the same system. With added gimmicks.

>> No.3151254

>>3151104
or the madness that is known as grinding for shinies

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>>3151212
>needing to grind to beat Pokémon

>> No.3151271

>>3151262
You grind for levels. Shut the fuck up. That is what you do. At a certain point in the game you will have 1-2 pokemon that because your workhorse and win almost every battle for you because the NPC trainers are fucking laughable.

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>>3151271
Or you can beat the game easily without grinding. I have never had to grind for levels, not even as a kid. I regularly beat the games with a 10+ level difference between me and the Champion.

>> No.3151278

>>3151273
You still grinded at one point in the game. Sorry. There is no skill in pokemon. House wives beat pokemon, little snot nosed kids beat it. You grind. How are you 10 levels over the "champion"?

>> No.3151280

>>3151278
>You still grinded at one point in the game.
No I didn't. I was ten levels UNDER the Champion, is what I meant, that was poor wording on my part.

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>>3151262
Yes instead you can enjoy the amazing "story" as you "role play" as Ash.

Face it, grinding is the only thing in the game aside from autistically collecting Pokemon.

>> No.3151304

>>3151287
Ash isn't even in any of the games besides arguably Yellow.

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>>3141649
the best one right here

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>play crystal
>one of my favorite pokemon was removed from the region for no reason

It's the only third version that's somehow worse than the previous versions.

>> No.3151440

>>3109148
When the first GBA games rolled in. The number of pokemen in the first and second generation games was enough for me and and I felt like they had to stop (I didn't know how big a cash cow Pokemon was back then). Despite the technical upgrades I've never cared for anything past the second gen.

>> No.3152839

>>3130289
>Pokemon getting worse
Hardly any meaningful aspect of the game got worse over time. The real problem is that it's coming across as stale now since it hasn't budged an inch. Mega Evolution wasn't a great idea, but it was at least something to stave off the stagnation.

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>>3152839
>Hardly any meaningful aspect of the game got worse over time

Postgame has steadily gotten worse since it peaked at Emerald.

Gym Leader and E4 teams have also noticeably gotten worse from Gen V onward, pic related.

>> No.3154790

>>3109148
When i turned 14.

No really i stopped playing pokemon after black and white. I bought XY, i thought it was shit then i bought alpha saphire because i really wanted you play it with my fanboy little cousin, i was really disapointed by this one too