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What's a game that has fantastic gameplay despite its shit tier graphics?

>> No.3102969

define shit tier.
are we talking about 3d games only?
I don't think it's fair to count 2d games as shit tier.

>> No.3102976

>>3102969
Most likely 3D, since retro 3D titles are bad in appearance. There are some putrid 2d games though.

>> No.3102981

>>3102969
im referring to graphics compared to games that came out to its time. So any era is welcome

>> No.3102995

>>3102873
>>3102981
>im referring to graphics compared to games that came out to its time

So, pic unrelated then, because Mario Kart 64 had great graphics for it's time.

>> No.3103006

>>3102873
Graphics? Not artwork?? Game in picture is either???

>> No.3103068

>>3102995
I agree. They also look amazing aside from technically, especially the characters in the karts.
>From someone who isn't a big fan of the game.

>> No.3103087

ASCII games essentially have no graphics, do they count as 'shit tier' ? If so then Rogue is a good game that has 'shit tier' graphics.

>> No.3103096

>>3102995
>>3103068
Oh yeah, I wasn't discounting that. It was just a pic to make OP

>> No.3103205

F Zero X

>Worse graphics than Mario Kart 64 (arguably, at least it's all 3D, but less detail.
>30 vehicles on track at once and maintains 60fps.
>huge difficultly curve to keep you entertained.
>random track generator never gets old.
>64DD version adds even more to the mix.

I think it's the best racing game of that generation, but looks pretty shitty.

>> No.3103215

>>3103205
I can't beat final difficulty to unlock the 3rd menu screen, is it possible without cheatohs?
>random track generator never gets old.
x-cup is good fun

>> No.3103379

>>3103205
F Zero X is easily one of the best examples of sensible cutbacks in visuals having an enormous payback in gameplay.

>> No.3103582

>>3103205
F-Zero X looks beautiful to me, albeit simplistic. I like the style and aesthetic much more than MK64.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP7hdQXoNmw

>> No.3103586

>>3103215
>I can't beat final difficulty to unlock the 3rd menu screen, is it possible without cheatohs?
Yeah, plenty of people have done it. F-Zero X has a very high skill ceiling so it takes some practice and deeper mechanical knowledge, but it's doable for sure. The best players find it trivially easy.

>> No.3103624

>>3103582
>so right here we've got our new 3D game console straight from the R&D department, it can do incredibly advanced 3D polygons and textures
>how fast can we make this motherfucker go if we strip out all of that bullshit and just do the minimum graphics that players can understand?
>1000 miles an hour with 30 racers at 60fps sir
>FUND IT

And I'm glad they did.

>> No.3103654
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Always fun to play against a friend, in the same way that Foosball and Air Hockey never get old.

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>>3103087
I'm sure he means "shit" as in looking ugly, having graphical issues, and generally being made of pure laziness. Roguelikes can look good within their limitations.

>> No.3103771
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>> No.3103823

>>3103654
truth

>> No.3103828

>>3103586
Okay I'll continue trying. Just figured out 3 "kills" does something. I might need a new controller or some viagra though.

>> No.3103834

>>3103771
What¿ that game is absolutely my favorite rr

>> No.3103863

>>3103828
this might be helpful, although somewhat outdated.

http://www.fzerocentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=829

>> No.3104935

>>3103771
Fantastic gameplay? Hell yes.
Shit tier graphics? I guess.. I mean what do you expect from n64. I will say that the n64 fog helps make this game more fun since you cant react fast enough to on coming traffic. So it works.

>> No.3106908

>>3103205
This game is the best racer ever.

>> No.3106965

>>3102873

DKC1

>> No.3107675

I think Mario Kart 64 looks great.

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>>3106965
You got it backwards, mate.

DKC has great graphics but shit tier gameplay.

>> No.3107713

>>3107701
Obviously anyone who can see knows it has great graphics.

A few shit-heads around here convinced themselves they have superior inside knowledge and taste that prerendered is actually bad.

>> No.3107738

>>3107701
no dummy dkc has both shit graphics and shit gameplay

>> No.3107814

>>3107701
>>3107738
>bad gameplay
Why do people say this?my only qualm is finding all the fucking secrets.

>> No.3107842

>>3107814
Fucking TERRIBLE hit detection and hotboxes, wonky jump physics that let you (sort of) jump after rolling over an edge, and speaking of rolling, it feels strange.

In short, it's very imprecise for a genre of game that requires precision.

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>>3102873
Pretty much the entire Genesis library.

Many titles had great gameplay but shit-tier graphics and sound compared to its SNES counterparts, and often the TG16 as well.

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>>3108114
>and often the TG16 as well
U wot?

>> No.3108139

>>3108132
>seriously responding to the SNES shitposter
http://desustorage.org/vr/search/image/wQYwFlJpOn20deVQy37buw/
http://desustorage.org/vr/search/image/rTF5o9MmuxnCXlddc_iO6Q/

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Wing Commander I and II.

>> No.3108237

>>3102995
Who the fuck thinks mario kart 64 looks like shit? Looks pretty good today honestly.

>> No.3108249

>>3107814
The controls are spotty and the level-design is too boring.

DKC2 at least fixed most of DKC1's problems, although Dixie makes that game too easy.

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>>3108139
omg, we have been blessed with autismo's presence :) i thought he was a myth

>> No.3108275

>>3108132
Isn't the 16 displaying more colors in your shot?

>> No.3108281
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Stunts for DOS. Absolutely a fucking blast to play, has an awesome replay feature, and the track editor alone supplies you with endless fun. The graphics are pretty dated but the gameplay is solid to this day.

>> No.3108308

Any 8-Bit Sonic game

If the question was "what and has great gameplay despite of awful plot" then any Sonic 32-but game

>> No.3108330

>>3108308
>>3108308
The 8-bit Sonics handled like shit.

The 32-bit Sonics sucked.

The Genesis Sonics where the only good ones.

>> No.3108339

>>3107814

getting the secrets in DKC1 are pointless and completely skipable

>> No.3108508

>>3108237
you're fucking mental, m8.

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>>3102995
>So, pic unrelated then, because Mario Kart 64 had great graphics for it's time.
>because Mario Kart 64 had great graphics for it's time
>Mario Kart 64

>> No.3108690

>>3108508
I think it looks timeless, too, actually.

Still play it with m8s, emulated on my laptop hooked up to the 1080p screen. Still looks fantastic and vibrant to me.

>> No.3111048

Genesis games in general tend to have better gameplay than SNES ones, despite SNES having better graphics, the games had lag everywhere.

Genesis games overall were a lot more consistent than SNES even if they had worse graphics.

>> No.3111150

>>3111048
>SNES
>better graphics

muh sprite scaling

>> No.3111251

All /vr/ 2D zelda games

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ran out of colors to do the floor

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>> No.3111461

>>3103671
what game is that? And is it text mode, or just pretending?

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>>3111461
No the poster, but its Tales of Middle Earth or something similar to it. Here is a better gif.

>> No.3111737

>>3111048
>>3111150
>>3111254
>>3111258
>>3111265
>>3111271
>>3111273
>>3111284
>>3111287
damn dude get a job

>> No.3111981

>>3111048
>Genesis games in general tend to have better gameplay

it was usually the opposite. the genesis did have shit colors, though

>> No.3111991

>>3111461
Dworf Fartress?

>> No.3112050

>>3111981
Don't forget sound.

>> No.3112367

>>3111265
Shit-tier graphics for genesis? Really? In what universe?