DB/DBZ/DBS Thread

[Anonymous No.3094921]

What are some fun retro Dragonball games, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3094940]

Super Butoden 2 is my favorite Dragon Ball game period.

[Anonymous No.3095130]

>>3094940
Does it have any slowdown like the SNES is infamous for?

[Anonymous No.3095142]

>>3095130
no its a fighting game so it doesnt have to render a ton of sprites that slow things down. With the turbo speed enabled its fun as hell. Super butouden in OP pic is awesome too except the fastest speed on it is a little too fast haha its pretty chaotic.

[Anonymous No.3095172]

Super Saiya Densetsu is my guilty pleasure.

It's not even a great RPG, with many severe flaws, but yet I find myself replaying it at least once a year

[Anonymous No.3095183]

>>3095130

No, it even has a turbo speed mode.

>>3095172
Have you played the Goku-den games?

[Anonymous No.3095196]

>>3095183
Only one I got around to beating was the 3rd one. Saiya Densetsu is a remake of the first two, and the first two was annoying to deal with the grid system

[Anonymous No.3095197]

>>3095142

My main problem with Shin Butoden are the small stages. the SB games (and Buu Yuu Retsuden on Genesis) are great for their unique split-screen mechanic and how you can dash and fight your opponent at a distance (or chase them down), but the stages on Shin Butoden don't really allow for too much dashing, and that's a shame.
It's also sad that it didn't include a story mode (ironic for a game series called "Super Battle Stories", the only one who got a story mode is 2).

Otherwise Shin could have been the best since it has the largest roster.

[Anonymous No.3095215]

>>3095196

I think you're talking about the Famicom RPGs right?

The Super Goku-den games are different.

[Anonymous No.3095220]

>>3095215
Oh I was never a fan of those. Mainly a rock paper scissors mechanic and just replicating what happened in the anime.

[Anonymous No.3095232]

>>3095142
What's the code for turbo? L+R on P1 or P2 at the intro doesn't seem to work for me

[Anonymous No.3095235]

>>3094921
Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 is the pinnacle of Dragon Ball games

[Anonymous No.3095243]

>>3095232

L+R+start+select on controller 2

>>3095235

Not /vr/-related and also maybe the pinnacle of 3D DBZ games, but not as a whole. I still prefer any 2D fighting games over the 3D ones.

[Anonymous No.3095250]

>>3095172
>fight saibamen for an eternity listening to the most repetitive music ever: the game

[Anonymous No.3095251]

>>3095243
fair enough
as far as 2D dragon ball games go i was hooked to one called Dragon Ball Z Mugen on PC

[Anonymous No.3095256]

>>3095220
>Mainly a rock paper scissors mechanic and just replicating what happened in the anime.

More than I could ask if I was a DB fan at the time (or even now). It also has some sort of replay value because winning/losing scripted battles can make all sort of things happen.

Pic related is incredibly fun as far as gameplay goes though, literally breathtaking.

[Anonymous No.3095259]

>>3095197
Isn't Shin Budoten basically Ultimate Battle?

[Anonymous No.3095278]

>>3094921
None. They're ask button mashing slug fests, at least when the characters aren't screaming like they're royally constipated.

[Anonymous No.3095325]

>>3095278
>has never played any of them

Not retro but Budokai 3 is the best one. End of story.

[Anonymous No.3095336]

>>3095325
Tenkaichi 2 is also a damn fine game.

[Anonymous No.3095404]

>>3095278
>3095278
>>3095278
hot opinions, fagotron

[Anonymous No.3095450]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zQD0IjHdO4

[Anonymous No.3095451]

>>3095278
But slugfests and screaming is fun.

[Anonymous No.3095456]

Most underrated Dragon Ball game?

[Anonymous No.3095457]

>>3095259
It's basically Ultimate Battle 22 1.5. An improvement in every way and fixes a lot of issues the original release had, but still really not that good.

[Anonymous No.3095537]

>>3095451
You know what? You're right. I take it back.

[Anonymous No.3096251]

[Anonymous No.3096282]

>>3095259

Not really. Ultimate Battle 22 doesn't have the trademark split-screen mechanic seen on Butoden games and overall plays differently, has different stages (a lot more shitty), although the sprites used for the characters are the same, maybe with some differences.

Shin Butoden is a lot better than UB22, I'd say UB22 is the worst of the 2D DBZ fighting games.

>>3095450
Classic, I'll never get tired of that soundtrack.

>>3095456
Maybe, it's pretty impressive, not the most fun I think, but worth playing.

[Anonymous No.3096307]

>>3095256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixw6HOuHlwo

>the majority of these songs will never be remixed again in any way because Yamamoto eventually stole from the wrong side of the Earth

And yet if any non-Kikuchi song sounded like it did we only owe that to Yamamoto. Dude had talent.

[Anonymous No.3096331]

>>3096307

Completely agreed.

I won't defend him, since he himself admitted to have ripped off music, but honestly? the songs he supposedly "ripped off" don't sound exactly the same. I think it's really a stretch to say the Cell theme from SB2 sounds like that one Pink Floyd song, only the bassline at the beginning sounds somewhat similar, and only vaguely. It's more he's been influenced by the song, rather than completely ripping it off.

But I digress. Yamamoto is still a good composer, but most of all, he's an even better arranger and producer.

It's a shame, really.

The recent release of Super Butoden 2 on 3DS (which came with Extreme Butoden pre-order) has completely different music.

It's not bad, but it pales in comparison to the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C6t3LGnpCo

[Anonymous No.3096334]

Dragonball Advanced Adventure is pretty damn sweet if you're into platforming beat 'em ups. It even has a 1vs1 for people who are also interested.

[Anonymous No.3096454]

>>3096251
This was an amazing game.

[Anonymous No.3096462]

>>3096334
Easily one of the best Dragon Ball games ever. It's so awesome it ends up feeling short, since you play it all the time once you're hooked.

[Anonymous No.3096470]

>>3096334
>GBA

Get that outta here!

[Anonymous No.3097198]

>>3096334
Not even the best DB game on the GBA, mate.

[Anonymous No.3097203]

>>3095130
>Does it have any slowdown like the SNES is infamous for?

It's slow throughout.

Butouden 3 fixed that, but it also took the graphics down quite a few notches, and it was generally rushed with not even a story mode.

[Anonymous No.3097214]

>>3095259
>Isn't Shin Budoten basically Ultimate Battle?

No, they just took the sprites from UB22 and turned it into a Butouden game.

Unfortunately this made SB look like total crap when placed next to the beautiful spritework of the SNES and MD games - it uses animation cels with awful cut-outs, that look completely washed out next to the backgrounds. On top of that it also didn't play nowhere near as good as the previous entries. Arenas were small, moves did too much damage, and the game was unbalanced in general.

[Anonymous No.3097242]

>>3097203

Super Butoden 2 doesn't have any slowdowns though.

And I'd argue the game isn't slow, but it isn't as fast and energetic as, say, guilty gear or vampire savior or those kinda fast-paced fighting games, but depending on how you play the game it can be pretty gast, for example if you use a lot of meteor combo attacks, and the whole dashing aspect.
Plus it has a turbo speed mode which is the only way the game should be played anyway, regular speed is indeed pretty slow.

[Anonymous No.3097317]

>>3094921
LSW, need a remake/sequel

[Anonymous No.3099162]

>by /vr/'s rules, after the Nintendo NX releases Budokai Tenkaichi 3 will be classified as "retro"
>still remember seeing commercials for it on tv
Where did the years go? Also, does anybody else remember The Legacy of Goku 2 commercial?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kub7-xt1fLY

[Anonymous No.3099180]

>>3099162
>by /vr/'s rules, after the Nintendo NX releases Budokai Tenkaichi 3 will be classified as "retro"

What has the Nintendo NX has to do with /vr/'s rules? Tenkaichi 3 will still not be released in 1999 or before, so it won't be retro.

But yeah time flies, I still remember being a kid and playing Super Butoden 2 on my SNES and that was over 20 years ago.

As for commercials, I love this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKUnYYsFxDY

[Anonymous No.3099195]

>>3099162
>by /vr/'s rules, after the Nintendo NX releases Budokai Tenkaichi 3 will be classified as "retro"

Nope. That 8th gen thing was an exception for the Dreamcast, since it had a short, relatively retro life. Once 9th gen consoles come around, post 2000 games will probably have their own board (be it /v2k/ or whichyouwanna call it), that will eventually get spammed with generals about the mainstream stuff and if will even get a "retro" moniker then this board will most likely become /vr/ - Vintage Games or something.

[Anonymous No.3099205]

>>3099195

Well, we don't really know what Hiro has planned for the future. For now, the rule is 1999 and before.

[Anonymous No.3099216]

I like dragon ball games but I'm kinda sick of the story since pretty much every game covers it. Are there any /vr/ db games that focus mainly on what ifs and side stories?

[Anonymous No.3099221]

>>3099216
Supersonic Warriors on GBA

Gokuuden games on SNES offer a pretty forgettable deal of what ifness I recall.

[Anonymous No.3099230]

So how long until the topic shifts to Gohan/Buu/Piccolo fans talking about how disappointing super is?

[Anonymous No.3099257]

>>3099230
you mean the people who wont be happy no matter what happens?

[Anonymous No.3099274]

>>3099230
I'm really enjoying DBS.
inb4 "newfag". I've been watching Dragon Ball since it first aired in France in 88

[Anonymous No.3099316]

hmm i kind of want to try out those 2d fighting games
ive only played non retro db games

>>3099274
true
people who hate DBS wont be happy with anything or dont like DB in the first place

[Anonymous No.3099830]

>Tfw listening to this while playing DBZ fighting games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8JwUGR9Sok

Always gets me pumped up and ready to win.

[Anonymous No.3099845]

Anyone else sad they ruined Vegita's character in Dragonball Super?

[Anonymous No.3099849]

>>3099830
>not listening to the actual game OST

that said, that's an awesome song... it was actually played on the series, right? I can't remember in which episode.

The DBZ hit collection CDs have a lot of great vocal tracks that were unused on the series/movies.
I love listening to this and driving through the city at night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj93kgyYmeA

and this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C1u67MNEs

(this one was sung by TOM, better known for singing the 2nd opening of Hokuto no Ken, Tough Boy)

[Anonymous No.3099858]

>>3099845
He was ruined when fan popularity brought him back on namek; now he's a permanent beta.

[Anonymous No.3099861]

>>3099849
Not all DBZ games have good OST anon i'm sorry to say.

I always have to throw on my own Dragon Ball soundtrack whenever I played Xenoverse since nearly every song was the same techno bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3099869]

>>3099858
Did you miss the entire cucking yamcha bit?

[Anonymous No.3099885]

>>3099861

Oh I was thinking about the retro games... I only played a bit of Tenkaichi Budokai 3 (I think, on the Wii) and one on the PS3 (the one before Xenoverse), don't remember much about them.

[Anonymous No.3099894]

>>3099845
Dragon ball super ruined everyones character, though. Dragon ball super is only marginally better than gt. At least gt was paced well and had things actually happening.

[Anonymous No.3099947]

>>3099230
DB was an 80's/90's thing, it just doesn't translate to today's anime, even less since it's the definition of milking cow. Even with the plot largely unchanged, the production value would have been tons better had it been done 20 years ago. Not talking about the animation (not just that), but the direction, pacing, ideas and OST. Super's only saving grace is in the delivery of Nozawa, Horikawa and other stellar VAs.

>>3099274
>>3099316
Sometimes (more than once) I think it's better to leave well enough alone, but that doesn't mean things cannot be resurrected/expanded in an interesting (and non canon-breaking) way.

>>3099894
>Dragon ball super is only marginally better than gt

GT was good for what it wanted to do, which I don't entirely condone (second half was Z 2.0 and I hated that). Cool music too.

[Anonymous No.3099987]

>>3099947
>it just doesn't translate to today's anime
thats exactly what ive been thinking
the situation is similar to gunbuster and diebuster if youve seen them
>>3099894
>gt
>well paced
lmao what
you havent watched gt in a while have you?

speaking of GT how is the Final Bout game?

[Anonymous No.3099998]

>>3099987

What about gunbuster and diebuster? They're OVAs so they don't have to adapt to TV budget issues.


Final Bout is a terrible game, probably the worst of the retro ones, with an amazing FMV intro video and a great soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.3100000]

>>3099987
Don't bother.

I emulated it after hearing all the stigma to see if it really was that bad.

And god it is, It's hard to even describe but it's fucking garbage.

The moves are sluggish... the hitboxes are trash ect. The backgrounds are boring...

[Anonymous No.3100003]

>>3099987
>speaking of GT how is the Final Bout game?

Severely lacking, but fun enough when played in short bursts, and when you find the way to break it. Doing all the moves once or twice is also pretty fun. Music is really good although it reuses many of the past SNES games music, Yamamoto was still in his prime. Pan best character.

[Anonymous No.3100006]

>>3100000
nice quints

[Anonymous No.3100024]

>>3100000

[Anonymous No.3100051]

>>3099869
I was too busy laughing at vegeta for needing a wizard to hold his hand to reach the next ss level.

[Anonymous No.3100098]

>>3100051
Whis just gave him a place to train and a bit of help, but obviously he would have needed help, it takes 5 saiyans just to give someone god powers for a short while.

[Anonymous No.3100124]

>>3100098
I was talking about babadi.

[Anonymous No.3100195]

>>3099861
Mah nigga. I ended up downloading all Butouden OSTs and the show's OST and picked fitting tracks. It was hilarious when some oddly appropriate tracks played during specific fights (list was shuffled).

Like this played right when I was fighting Frieza, which was really creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkuT3e6FtEs

Did someone make any BGM hacks for Xenoverse yet?

To stay retro, I used to play a lot of Butouden 3, Ultimate 22 and Final Bout as a kid. I know, kind of the worst DBZ games, but hey, they were still fun for a little kid.

[Anonymous No.3100205]

>>3100195

Butoden 3 was fine, the problem is that it lacked a story mode so it felt kind of barren compared to the previous game.

[Anonymous No.3100223]

>>3100205
I remember setting it so that you fire Kamehameha with a button press, and we just kept firing it at each other. Crazy game.

[Anonymous No.3100353]

>>3100124
Naw he just wanted to use him for the power up, it's why he maintained control

[Anonymous No.3100462]

>>3095130
Super Butoden 3 is great as well as Hyper dimension.
The old NES RPG's as well as the Snes RPG's.
Also my all time favorite being Dragon Ball Z Legends for the Psx
along with Legendary Super Warriors and although not exactly retro Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure is the best I've ever played.
At least in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3100513]

>>3100462

The Game Boy RPGs are also good.
By the way you like Butoden 3, what about 2?

Also, Legends is great, yes.
Anybody knows if there's a significant difference between Saturn and PS1 versions of Legends? I remember reading Saturn performed better, but I only played the PS1 version. Might burn a CD-R to try on the Saturn if it really has a difference.

[Anonymous No.3100535]

>>3100513
Yes they are indeed!
Yeah I love the trilogy as a whole even Butoden 1
I bought them back in 04 and carved out slots in
the back of the carts to fit in my Super Nintendo
to play them without a adapter worked perfectly.
Have you tried the new game in the series Extreme Butoden?
It's really good. About Legend I don't think there
is significant difference in the Ps1 version compared to the Saturn version but I only own
the Ps1 version and have never played the Saturn version either so I'm not 100% sure.

[Anonymous No.3100539]

>>3100513
PS1 performs really good, never noticed a drop. However the PS1 version is really bare with the environment, Saturn version has much more detail with trees and stuff all around (which are indeed loaded in the PS1's VRAM but not actually used, now those could have been legit performance issues). If I remember well, it's the Saturn that has the worse framerate because of this.

Also, for the ingame music the PS1 uses really good midi renditions, while the Saturn goes full red book with amazing quality but it has fadeouts etc. The CDDA tracks are also in the PS1 disc, left unused.

[Anonymous No.3100540]

>>3100353
He couldn't go ss2 on his own, even after 7 years.

[Anonymous No.3100549]

>>3100513
>>3100539
By the way, the one your posted is my legit favorite GB Dragon Ball game, in only for the music, the fact that it has lots of text (which I can't quite understand) and because it shows power levels (most being accurate) that MAKE SENSE.

[Anonymous No.3100593]

>>3100535

I tried the Extreme Butoden demo. It looks fantastic, and it seems like it could be a fun game, I only played the demo a bit so I don't know, but it's not really a Butoden game, it shouldn't be called like that. It doesn't have split-screen.
But in a way it's cool that they're still keeping the Butoden name alive, I only wish they'd actually stick to the original formula.

>>3100539
So there's no "definitive" version I guess.

[Anonymous No.3100609]

>>3100540
" It is sometimes debated when he first achieved this form; there are quite a few hints he achieved it before he became Majin Vegeta, with practically none to the contrary, as Vegeta only states Goku to be stronger than Gohan once he, too transforms into Super Saiyan 2, holding complete confidence in his superiority over Gohan prior to becoming Majin Vegeta"

[Anonymous No.3101828]

Just started playing this one.

A few minutes in and I'm already having a good time.

>Roshi: "Oh Goku, that's your son!? I see you finally got to jiggle with it!"
>Goku: "Heheh! Jealous?"
>Roshi: "Hmmm..."

But it's kind of brutal, got Piccolo dead after 3 battles and it's game over. I'm still not sure how the card system works other than the number of stars is the number of squares you can move on the map.

[Anonymous No.3101979]

>>3096331
MAN, that sounds like ass.

[Anonymous No.3102235]

>>3097198
Every game posted ITT has garbage music but this. Legacy of Goku 2 and Buu's fury have better music than any retro or modern DBZ game.

[Anonymous No.3102346]

>>3102235
>Every game posted ITT has garbage music but this

Have fun being wrong

[Anonymous No.3102354]

>>3102346
legendary super warriors has an ok soundtrack but the others are just meh

[Anonymous No.3102357]

>>3101828
>I'm still not sure how the card system works
basically the higher the star count on the card, the more damage it does (Z being the highest you can get), and the symbols at the bottom represent defense potential. The main symbol on the card dictates what type of attack you will do, and if the symbol matches with the character you are using he will attack all enemies, not just one.

[Anonymous No.3102374]

>>3102235
>>3102354
https://youtu.be/3dzI-sOapxw?list=PL6CB14C1F9E98835D

[Anonymous No.3102390]

>>3102354

Well, have fun being wrong, most people in these threads agree all the Yamamoto soundtracks are god-tier, especially on games like the Butoden series and all the remixes of the songs on later games.

Maybe you have nostalgia for the early 00s DBZ games?

[Anonymous No.3102393]

>>3102357

Nice, thanks. And what about the "use card" command? It says I have 3 star and 6 star ones, and that I can't use them if I don't have all 7.

[Anonymous No.3102401]

>>3102235
dumb falcouner babby

[Anonymous No.3102404]

>>3102393
not too sure what you mean by this, but it was over a year ago I beat the game so I may have just forgotten.

[Anonymous No.3102409]

>>3095215

Speaking of soundtracks, this game has an amazing one, also by yamamoto of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV6z1oZXCCw

There's also an arranged CD of it.

[Anonymous No.3102438]

>>3102401
Where did I say the Japanese anime music was bad?
The games have shit music deal with it.

[Anonymous No.3102472]

>>3102438

Well, you can have your contrarian opinion, no problem, but be advised you're kinda alone with it. Most people here agree yamamoto's soundtracks are amazing, and for many games, their only saving grace (Final Bout)

[Anonymous No.3102596]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ETUWGhdimo

CHA LA, HEAD CHA LAAAAAA

>Mfw I like this shit better than flow's cover.

[Anonymous No.3102608]

>>3094940
>Super Butoden 2
If that game was smoother and faster paced, it looks like it could be really fun.

[Anonymous No.3102613]

>>3102596
Their cover of the original dragon ball opening song was pretty gud honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvoELuZ0vP4

[Anonymous No.3102617]

>>3102608

It IS really fun though, the game isn't really played like a Street Fighter game (although you still block the same way and some commands are similar). It's all about using the split screen and fight at a distance with beam powers, and if you're close to your opponent, it's meteor-combos.
It also has a turbo code that actually does make it faster and it's the only way it should be played anyways.

I still play this game with friends of mine on VS mode and have as much fun as back in the day, it's a classic to me.

[Anonymous No.3102680]

>>3102617
>It's all about using the split screen and fight at a distance with beam powers, and if you're close to your opponent, it's meteor-combos.

Nah, a good player will just get close and starts pounding on you with a flurry of combos that come out fast and have little recovery. You won't have time to fly away or counterattack. Meteos are not safe moves, they leave you wide open if you miss, unless you used it as a counter to some enemy autocombo and have a 100% chance at hitting (Broly's kick combo can be countered with a meteo like that).

Beam attacks are pointless, they are too easy to dodge, they are only useful if the opponent is in a dizzy - but if you get that, you might as well use a meteo.

Seriously play the game online against someone who knows what they are doing, you won't land a damn punch.

[Anonymous No.3102685]

best girl

[Anonymous No.3102697]

>>3102685
NOPE

[Anonymous No.3102717]

>>3102685
>>3102697

>settling for anything less than perfection

I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.3102737]

>>3102717
>perfect
>lost to worst saiyan
Yeah, perfect, my ass.

[Anonymous No.3102746]

the true best girl

[Anonymous No.3102767]

>>3102697
Videl is indeed the best girl.

[Anonymous No.3102768]

>>3102746
Kinda wish Toriyama hadn't forgot she existed for DBZ.

[Anonymous No.3102786]

>>3102737

>lost to worst saiyan

But he didn't lose to Vegeta, what're you talking about?

[Anonymous No.3102791]

>>3102786
I was talking about Gohan

[Anonymous No.3102795]

>>3102791
>>3102786
>>3102737
>>3102717
STAND ASIDE MORTALS, YOUR SMOKE AND MIRRORS WON'T WORK ON ME

[Anonymous No.3102796]

>>3102791

I got that, I'm just antagonizing you a little.

[Anonymous No.3102797]

>>3102680

Is there any videos of online matches?

[Anonymous No.3102805]

>>3102796
W-WHY, YOU!!

[Anonymous No.3102808]

>He doesn't main best Saiyan

AS I LIE HERE TRYING TO REMEMBER, WHAT KEEPS ME FROM, KILLING YOU!

[Anonymous No.3102810]

>>3102808
because broly is for tierfags

[Anonymous No.3102813]

>>3102810
>>3102808
>Broly in sagas
God help us all, what were they thinking

[Anonymous No.3102819]

>>3102810
Broly always is a fucking tank in many of the games though.

While his fans can be cringe tastic I like him in a sort of ironic way. At the very least he's good at fucking people's shit in alot of the games he's in.

He's the kind of character where you can get fucked if you aren't careful fighting someone good with him.

[Anonymous No.3102843]

>>3094921
We can all agree that the 23rd world martial arts tourney was better than anything else from DB or DBZ, right /vr/?

[Anonymous No.3102861]

>>3102797
I don't know.

All I remember is that I used to play it online ages ago until I found a guy who was so good that I literally couldn't let a single punch in.

[Anonymous No.3102885]

>>3102843

Never actually sat down and experienced the original dragon ball, does the manga still hold up? I don't have the attention span to watch the anime.

[Anonymous No.3102901]

>>3102819
He was in one of the PS2 fighting games and he had this grab super that does almost 50% damage, which is crazy considering everyone else is doing 25% and you can block it.

I think it was Budokai 3.

[Anonymous No.3102903]

>>3102901
He's always a major bruiser, almost any game he's featured in his attacks deal massive damage in exchange for his usually slow movement.

He can be dangerous that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.3102906]

>>3102903
He wasn't slow, though. He was just OP, the only character more broken was Omega Shenron since his ki is always charging to maximum without needing any transformations.

[Anonymous No.3102957]

>>3102885
I haven't read the mango, but I've heard it's better than the shows.

[Anonymous No.3102960]

>>3102885

The manga is amazing, go read all of it from beginning to end.

The anime is still good though, some scenes get really enhanced by the music (the original)

[Anonymous No.3102965]

>>3102960
Kai for DBZ is a must btw.

[Anonymous No.3103004]

>>3102965

But Kai took many of the original musical score out, and the editing is awful.

If you're gonna watch the anime, just watch the original Z. Kai doesn't even have the driving license filler episode.

[Anonymous No.3103008]

>>3103004
the kai OP
ugh
as someone who grew up with faulconer that kills me

[Anonymous No.3103016]

>>3103008
>as someone who grew up with faulconer

My condolences

[Anonymous No.3103028]

>>3103004
It follows the manga pacing. I prefer it to the original, because the original literally has a whole lot of nothing it's so unbearable nowadays. The filler is nice though, but it added very little in the grand scheme

[Anonymous No.3103226]

>>3103004
>We will never get Kai with Faulconer music instead of the garbage Jap track

for fuck sake

[Anonymous No.3103241]

>>3103226
all of his songs sound like the same generic shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2FwS58LpDE

[Anonymous No.3103256]

>>3103241
Better than boring ass Japanese classical shit. That kind of music fits dragon ball but Faulconer fits godlike fuckers blowing up planets and shooting giant energy blasts.

[Anonymous No.3103260]

>>3103241
>he posts one track from a filler episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MaiCJ9E6xE

[Anonymous No.3103314]

>>3103226
>>3103256

Kai is shit and so is the american nu metal music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxpa4KIXibM

[Anonymous No.3103319]

>>3103314
go fuck urself mate

[Anonymous No.3103331]

>>3103319

I understand how nostalgia works, but really, poor americans...
they also got into DBZ late and didn't get to see the original DB.

[Anonymous No.3103394]

>>3103331
I've seen the original Dragon ball and I still think Faulconers tracks fit DBZ better.

[Anonymous No.3103403]

>>3103394

You're not alone, I think most americans are like that. Nostalgia is strong as fuck.

The rest of the world cringe when they see DBZ with the US music though.

[Anonymous No.3103410]

>>3095256
Ye nigga. That was my first imported game.

[Anonymous No.3103416]

>>3103256
>>3103394
Could you imagine if Buu's Fury had a generic Japanese soundtrack? Even the Japanese version of the game had Faulconer music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkVV6yXpAQk&index=33&list=PL291CFB37D69E2BDB

[Anonymous No.3103429]

>>3103403
>cringe
Only pussy betas use this word, so of course you would hate the hardcore manly American music.

[Anonymous No.3103468]

>>3103429

We could go on forever, I've seen this on /v/ DBZ threads. Americans will never (or rarely) accept that the original score is better, and everyone else laughs at your nu metal tryhard soundtrack.

But who cares? Keep enjoying what you enjoy, not gonna stop you.

[Anonymous No.3104173]

>>3103004
>Kai doesn't even have the driving license filler episode.
that was a really funny episode for many reasons, especially piccolos fucking POSTBOY shirt and backwards hat.

[Anonymous No.3104685]

>>3104173
Piccolo a best.

[Anonymous No.3104694]

>>3104685
Best husbando.

[Anonymous No.3104709]

Is there an English version of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans on Famicom?

I'm doubting it because I can't find a full playthrough of this game anywhere. I'm pretty curious about the first DBZ game with an original story though. I know the OVA (both versions) are floating around everywhere but where's the game footage and screenshots?

[Anonymous No.3104715]

>>3103226
>>3103256
>There are people that unironically prefer the generic as shit murikan sound track, and I'm sharing a board with them
Wow, I think I'm gonna puke.

[Anonymous No.3104727]

>>3104715
The Japanese DBZ soundtrack is one of the most generic anime soundtracks ever made.

[Anonymous No.3104728]

>>3104727
Really, you think so? I disagree.

[Anonymous No.3104767]

>>3102791
>Budokai 3
>Equip Vegeta with Mind Control and Senzu Bean
>Purposely get beat up, then get evil and rape the fuck out of people will full health Majin Vegeta

Works everytime.

[Anonymous No.3104779]

>>3104727
but usa didnt get Kageyama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dghY-hHFiJU

[Anonymous No.3104840]

>>3104727

This. It's not exactly bad or anything, it gets the job done. It's just fairly generic orchestral music though. Even other animes from that period in time had better, more distinctive soundtracks than DBZ. I think part of the problem is that they kept the same kind of music after jumping over from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z. It's all very whimsical sounding and that fits the more light hearted adventuring of the original Dragon Ball more than the high octane, drawn out battling of Dragon Ball Z. I'm not entirely sure why people hold up the Jap OST as being so vastly superior to the American one, when the American one at the very least has a unique, distinctive sound of it's own that fits the action a lot better than the Jap music. I'm going to assume these are the same people who prefer Japanese Goku's high pitched, ear raping voice actor over the American dub's more fitting actor too. Maybe they think the original is always better, just because it's the original. Maybe they're just huge weebs who think that it's better by virtue of being more Japanese.

I mean, just look at this comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7op_0HLKl9c

[Anonymous No.3104846]

>>3104727

It's okay if you grew up in the US so you got to see DBZ with the changed music and you got nostalgia for it, but don't act as if the US DBZ soundtrack doesn't sound like generic action cartoon music from the 90s/00s.

the original DB score is a classic and the whole world likes it, you were the only part of the planet that got a different, radically different soundtrack from the original. Again, it's okay if you have nostalgia, but don't be a spoiled, uncultured swine, don't shit on it while defending the turd you got.

>>3104173
I also like the filler Gohan training episodes on the beginning of Z, and some of the Goku ones like the one where he dances tango with the snake princess, or when he falls to hell and meets the 2 oni.

>>3103028

Kai doesn't follow the manga's pacing, it still has some filler here and there, they didn't remove all of it. If you want "manga pacing", just read the manga. If you want to watch the anime, just go for the original. Also due to the whole Yamamoto drama, they took out a lot of the original score and a lot of the soundtrack feels repetitive and out of place at times.

[Anonymous No.3104853]

>>3104840
>Maybe they're just huge weebs who think that it's better by virtue of being more Japanese.

You seem to forget that the whole world grew up with the original scores, it's only in America where you got the different soundtrack.
It's not weeb if that's how I originally watched it in my country.

You can say the original sounds like "generic orchestra", but the same can be argued against the US soundtrack, it doesn't sounds original or unique, it sounds like generic rock music to me.

[Anonymous No.3104875]

What'd you guys think of Xenoverse?

[Anonymous No.3104889]

>>3104853

Well, I'm European, and we got the American version here too, so it's not just America. Not that it makes a difference anyway. I might not have picked the best example, but the American OST is certainly not just generic rock music.

As an example, here's Piccolo's theme in the American version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Tg_wjWT1g

And Perfect Cell's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw

And then there's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmU9e67EfmI

There's a degree of variety here that you don't get in the Jap OST. Say what you want about it, but it's more than generic rock. You can give me some examples from the Jap soundtrack if you want, but you'll probably find that it all sounds pretty much the same.

[Anonymous No.3104902]

>>3104889

Wait... so people complain that the japanese score is like "generic orchestra", but that piccolo theme sounds like generic orchestral movie music, except it's all done digitally instead of with an actual orchestra.
The others sound kinda weird, the Cell theme reminds me of something like Limp Bizkit... I dunno, can't relate that to DBZ.

Also, Europe where? countries like France, Italy, Spain, etc got DBZ in the early 90s where it was huge as fuck, and at that time, DBZ didn't exist in the US. I think the DBZ with the US soundtrack was something from the very late 90s/early 00s.
I didn't know they used the US soundtrack outside the US. Weird.

[Anonymous No.3104917]

>>3104889
That isn't the real Perfect Cell them its a remix.
This is the real one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkuZeWMYm0o

[Anonymous No.3104927]

>>3104902

I think you're kinda grabbing for straws now. Especially with the whole Limp Bizkit thing. Regardless, the point I was trying to make was that the American OST is more than generic rock, there was a variety of different sounds in there to accomodate the different moods it was trying to create. I'm looking up some of the character's themes in the Jap OST right now on youtube and it basically all sounds the same. It's reminding me of what rubbed me wrong about this soundtrack in the first place; it's very repetitive. Again, I'm not going to call it total shit. It's just that the music kinda blends into the background and doesn't do anything to really enhance the animation itself. Literally, every fucking song has the same plodding pace with the drums and then the horns kick in. When I think of this OST, all I can think of is those fucking horns blaring constantly. And I'm not opposed to the orchestral style either. The first anime that jumps to mind from around the same time is Gundam Wing. That has an amazing orchestral style score.

And I'm from Ireland. I probably would have been watching it around the late 90's/early 00s. I don't recall it being on TV over here any earlier than that, otherwise I would've been watching it. This would've been the same version anyone in the UK seen too around that time.

[Anonymous No.3104954]

>>3104902
Even the fanmade Faulconer orchestral remixes sound better than the garbage Japanese soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/user/AlecRozsa/videos

[Anonymous No.3104961]

>>3104927

I'm not grabbing any straws, just giving my impressions, just like you gave yours about the JP soundtrack. I'm also not saying the US one is bad, but doesn't sound like something I'd call original either, and to me it doesn't sound like DBZ.
>>3104917
Maybe it's the hip hop-ish beat that reminds me of Limp Bizkit and similar bands of the early 00s, when that soundtrack was composed.
It's not bad, but I can't relate it to DBZ. Again, this is a matter of nostalgia I think, we'll never come to agree with each other, so it's better to agree to disagree.

And well, this is new to me, didn't know the UK had to wait like the US. The rest of Europe, or most of it, got DBZ in the early 90s.
I wonder how it was in countries like Germany or Sweden.

[Anonymous No.3104967]

>>3104954

You're the only one shitting on the japanese soundtrack, at least >>3104927 is more respectful.

It's fine if you have nostalgia for the soundtrack you grew up with, but don't shit on Kikuchi's stuff, the guy is legendary. You're just embarrassing yourself.

But go on, keep posting /b/-tier dog reaction images and acting like a retarded 00s kid.

[Anonymous No.3104986]

>tfw no competitive-level DBZ fighting game
>tfw the closest we got was Budokai 3 and that was 12 years ago

[Anonymous No.3104992]

>>3104986

According to some anon who posted ITT, there's people who play Super Butoden 2 online.
Probably if there is a tier list, Broly and Goku would outdo everyone else, but I dunno, I only play with my friends to have fun

[Anonymous No.3105012]

>>3104992

Butoden sucks.

[Anonymous No.3105028]

>>3105012

Just because you're bad at it doesn't mean it sucks.

The problem with Dragon Ball is that since the franchise is so widespread and has lasted so long, there's a lot of different people from all over the place and of different ages discussing the same thing and there's a lot of cultural and generational clash.

[Anonymous No.3105035]

>>3104967
>But go on, keep posting /b/-tier dog reaction images and acting like a retarded 00s kid.

Will do, friend.

[Anonymous No.3105036]

>>3105028
>Just because you're bad at it doesn't mean it sucks.

Assumptions much?

The game is a super sloppy, slow and shallow. It doesn't hold up to SF at all.

[Anonymous No.3105047]

>>3105036

If it's so slow and shallow and you're so good, then go online and try becoming the champ. Should be easy for you, right?

Not all games need to be like Street Fighter. The Butoden games do their own thing and that's fine. The formula could have been refined more, but SB2 is good enough.

If you want something more similar to SF, there's Hyper Dimension I guess.

[Anonymous No.3105074]

>>3105047
>Not all games need to be like Street Fighter. The Butoden games do their own thing and that's fine. The formula could have been refined more, but SB2 is good enough.

I guess you can't fucking read, because I said:

>tfw no competitive-level DBZ fighting game
>COMPETITIVE-LEVEL

"Good enough" is NOT good enough. And Hyper Dimension doesn't cut it either (fighting games on SNES? Eh oh el).

[Anonymous No.3105075]

>>3102404

Nevermind, the star thing was the actual dragon balls, I guess you start with the 3 and 6 stars ones and have to collect all 7.

I got a little bit of progress (as in, didn't got killed by the first couple enemies), I'm now trying to get a power upgrade by doing some card minigame but I keep losing, it sucks because it's pure luck, but otherwise it's entertaining so far. Haven't even meet Raditz yet, but I got the radar from Bulma so I know what direction he's in.

[Anonymous No.3105092]

>>3105074

Again, there are people who play SB2 online who can kick ass, so there is a competitive level. Whether or not you personally think it "sucks" it's subjective and, to be honest, completely irrelevant, you'd probably get your ass kicked if you tried.

>fighting games on SNES?

Gundam Endless Duel is pretty good.

And anyway if you want to shitpost about fighting games and "muh competitive scene", go somewhere else, don't ruin a Dragon Ball thread. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3105102]

>>3105092
>Again, there are people who play SB2 online who can kick ass, so there is a competitive level.

Jesus Christ.

People can be competitive in anything. Even shitty games can have competitive circles.

I don't give a shit about one game's fanbase, I'm talking about fighting games in general. A DBZ game that can hang with the best in the competitive fighting scene and isn't limited to a fucking no-name leaderboard on the 3DS. Thats what I want, not a port of a game that was shitty 25 years ago.

[Anonymous No.3105115]

>>3105102

For the record, I wasn't even talking about the 3DS version (I think it doesn't even has 2 player mode, and a worse soundtrack, it's a complete failure).
People just play online using the original Super Famicom ROM.

Anyway, I think it's better this way. if DB ever got a "competitive" game then all Dragon Ball threads would be ruined forever and instead of discussing the games we'd be discussing personalities from the scene, posting "funny" grudge videos of people flipping out and lots, lots of ironic, meta shitposting.

If you want to play SF, just go play SF.

[Anonymous No.3105129]

>>3105115
>Anyway, I think it's better this way.

Yeah, it's better for there to be no good DBZ games. Can't have a good game because that would shit up /v/ and who would want that?

I hope you don't actually believe this.

[Anonymous No.3105135]

none

[Anonymous No.3105143]

>>3105129
>Yeah, it's better for there to be no good DBZ games.

That's just your own opinion. You want a Street Fighter game with a DBZ skin. Try Mugen or something.

Also you seem to be moving goalpasts. At first you said you wanted a DBZ game that's competitive. I told you there's is a group of people who play SB2, but then you said that what you mean by "competitive" is that it has to be like SF and be popular enough to be at EVO.

Just go play SF my man.

[Anonymous No.3105169]

>>3105143
>Also you seem to be moving goalpasts.

No, it's called "clarifying." You didn't understand what I meant so I explained it.

>You want a Street Fighter game with a DBZ skin.

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

I don't want a SF clone with a DBZ skin, I want a DBZ game that is a good fighting game. So far Budokai 3 is the best we've got but it's very flawed and over a decade old.

>Just go play SF my man.

What makes you think I don't? But SF isn't a DBZ game, so it doesn't scratch that itch. Not sure why you're having such a hard time grasping that.

[Anonymous No.3105174]

>>3105143

I'm not the guy you've been replying to, but in fairness to him, SB2 just isn't as good as a Street Fighter game. Or most Capcom or SNK fighters for that matter. I actually can't even believe it has people playing it competitively. I'm not even a big fighting game guy, but a Capcom made DBZ fighting game done in that style would be awesome. It's pretty childish to not want this to exist just because you hate the competitive Street Fighter community. I'd buy a game like that just to play against the computer. Especially if they had a cool story mode like some of the PS2 DBZ games. I'm kinda surprised it never happened actually, especially back in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.3105223]

>>3104875

The grinding for basic-level skills sucks ass, and the inconsistency with encounters and grades is frustrating. Once you've got a decent character set-up it's pretty fun but there's not much to do once you've actually built it.

That and Blue Hurricane absolutely BREAKS the game.

[Anonymous No.3105236]

>>3105169
>No, it's called "clarifying." You didn't understand what I meant so I explained it.

I didn't understand because your own definition of "competitive" is very personal.
I just told you that there's people playing SB2 online competitively, whether you like Butoden or not is not my problem, but you kept arguing about how it "doesn't hold up to SF", that's where I get the idea that you want to play SF instead.


>>3105174
I'm not arguing SB2 is better than Capcom or SNK fighters, it's obviously not. But to give the Butoden games the credit their deserve, they are not trying to be like Capcom or SNK fighters, they have their own combat system, and if there's people who have been playing it online, it means that there's fun to be had competitively (even if it will never be popular enough to be at EVO)

I don't hate the competitive SF community, but I think you can't disagree that the kind of threads revolving around it generate a lot of shitposting and trolling. ("can't handle tha bantz bra")

[Anonymous No.3105242]

>>3105236
>I didn't understand because your own definition of "competitive" is very personal.

It's not personal, I just wasn't being specific. I assumed that in the context of the conversation it would be clear that I was referring to tournament play, but you didn't pick up on that so I clarified. Simple as that.

>you kept arguing about how it "doesn't hold up to SF", that's where I get the idea that you want to play SF instead.

I would have thought that my clarification that I'm referring to mainstream tournament play (rather than a niche community) would have spelled this out for you as well. I DON'T WANT A DBZ SKIN OF SF, I WANT A DBZ GAME THATS AS GOOD AS SF.

How hard is that to figure out?

[Anonymous No.3105253]

>>3102808
>Broly is literally a retarded super saiyan

>A saiyan with tard strength.

God help us all he's the ultimate killing machine. He's like Neal if he was a super saiyan, just switch out the raptor screeches for "KAKAROOOOOOOOOT"

[Anonymous No.3105256]

>>3104875
It's fun in short bursts much like most grindy games.

[Juana Hess No.3107091]

Anyone know if this track is from a Dragon Ball game?

https://my.mixtape.moe/tzquyb.mp3

I managed to find the source a few years ago, but I can't for the life of me find it again. It may not even be from a DB game, but I somewhat remember finding that it was.

[Marvin Brandt No.3107097]

>>3107091

This one >>3102409

Though that seems to be a bad midi adaptation you posted.

[Jonathon Flowers No.3107120]

>>3107097

Fucking amazing, thank you. I've previously looked through all of the SPCs available on snesmusic.org, but it looks like that game isn't up there, so that must be why I missed it. Thank you very much!

Also it's a MIDI indeed, someone made an example file for The Games Factory back in the day and used it as the background music. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.3109629]

rock the dragon
or
cha la head cha la

[Anonymous No.3109642]

>>3109629

Makafushigi Adventure

[Anonymous No.3109778]

Fun fact: Bruce Falconer redid the songs for MK Trilogy too.
The Pit theme is my favorite there.

[Anonymous No.3109786]

>>3109629
Shouldn't even be a contest. Of course rock the dragon.

[Anonymous No.3109797]

>>3109786

Take your early 00s cartoon network nostalgia elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.3109918]

>>3109629
both are good but head cha cha is much better. I like the second op better tho.

what does head cha la mean?

[Anonymous No.3109947]

>>3109918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSOjj8Q_9b4

[Anonymous No.3109995]

>>3102808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv4quigLXsA

[Anonymous No.3110752]

>>3104727
Nope

There's too many good tracks to list

http://hastebin.com/uzucexusof.txt

[Anonymous No.3110905]

>>3104840
I'm guessing you didn't pay attention to all the dramatic and tense tracks of the DBZ era.

DBZ's score is significantly different from DB's past the Saiyan arc, even though it is the same composer.

And bringing up Goku's (canon) voice acting as a negative and implying one can only like it if they're a purist or weeaboo is a quite ignorant thing to say.

[Anonymous No.3112686]

What is the best DBZ movie?

[Anonymous No.3112714]

>>3112686
The later movies are all pretty shit. But I like Garlic JR. The first 3 are really the only good ones.

[Anonymous No.3112716]

>>3112686

The Tapion one.

But personally my favorite is the lord slug movie.

[Anonymous No.3112775]

>>3112714
JELLY
AS
ALL
HELL

Please tell me you're going to dump that motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.3112825]

>>3112775
Sorry lad not mine.

[Anonymous No.3112848]

>>3112825
Well I hope whoever owns it already did. Laserdiscs didn't wish for immortality and their non-digital nature and the lack of error correction bits makes them especially prone to wear for what is basically a continuous composite stream. Only the (now worn) master films get better than this. And I think the audio should also be top notch.

Garlick is also my favorite movie and personal god tier score. Kikuchi didn't get more intense than this IMO.

[Anonymous No.3112868]

>>3112714
Sheeit, someone rescue that precious Laserdisc before it rolls off the table.

[Anonymous No.3112883]

>>3112686
Battle of the gods according to team four star.

[Anonymous No.3112929]

>>3112848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx2HeRt3X9M

[Anonymous No.3112932]

>>3112883
Fuck, really? It wasn't even directed by based Nishio, how can it be best anything?

[Anonymous No.3112938]

>>3112932
Something about it advancing the story finally, and being the first real dragon ball media in years

http://teamfourstar.com/video/dbcember-top-24-movies-and-specials-1/

[Anonymous No.3112939]

>>3112883
Botg was fucking awful. Gold F was slightly better.

[Anonymous No.3112953]

>>3112939
Not really, the only thing awful about either of them is how dragon ball super wasted a bunch of time retelling them without changing much of anything

[Anonymous No.3112964]

>>3112938
>Something about it advancing the story finally

It didn't really advance anything since it's set before the end of Z, nor did it really need to advance something after Buu and even Toriyama was good with that.

>and being the first real dragon ball media in years

Not necessarily a good thing. The 2008 OAV was more watchable even if it had nothing going for except comedy (something BOTG fans like to tout).

[Anonymous No.3113083]

i really would like super to make tarble canon

>>3112964
what do you mean by before the end of z?
botg is after buu i guess technically its before the end but that doesnt really matter
>even toriyama was good with that
what? good with what?

[Anonymous No.3113093]

>>3113083
>but that doesnt really matter

How so?

>good with what?

Good with ending the manga there, it didn't really need any expanding. GT was a nice concept though.

[Anonymous No.3114309]

>>3112686
Just rewatched some. I have to say The World's Strongest is fucking great. I dig the bad ass /m/ech designs toriyama and the animation is really good.

[Anonymous No.3114318]

>>3114309
The first 4 movies and 2 tv specials are great, the movies go tk shit with cooler and brolly though, the last 2 movies are pretty good though.

[Anonymous No.3114583]

>>3094940

I wish this game had a hacked version with other characters inserted in.

[Anonymous No.3114715]

>>3114318
>The first 4 movies

Lord Slug is easily one of the worst movies they ever made.

The first three were awesome but that fourth one is a pile of shit.

[Anonymous No.3114754]

>>3099987
The only thing from Final Bout worth experiencing for yourself is the dub of the anime scenes made for it so you can laugh at how bad it is and youtube has that shit covered.

[Anonymous No.3114774]

Oh hey a Dragonball thread

>sub vs dub shit flinging

Is it possible to have a thread without this garbage? Every fucking thread regardless of the board devolves into this.

[Anonymous No.3114783]

>>3105253
>A saiyan with tard strength

What do you think Goku is?

[Anonymous No.3114786]

>>3109629
Cha la head cha la is a better song. But when it's an action packed episode and not one where everyone's just standing around doing nothing Rock the dragon can get you pumped up more.

[Anonymous No.3114793]

>>3114783
Why, a saiyan with developed strength of course.

[Anonymous No.3114794]

>>3114309
I would honestly love to see Toriyama handle a more machine oriented series. Like hell, I'd even be fine with him being put in charge of a Gundam series.

[Anonymous No.3115151]

>>3114783
Goku can actually speak sentences other than random quips and can think something over than KAKAROOOOOT can't he?

[Anonymous No.3115187]

>>3114794
He got lazy and ran out of ideas.
Old DB/DBZ had
>Mecha, D&D supernatural chinese magic, capsules, swords, guns and the power pole
>Better choreographed fights with a variety techniques like Kaioken which had more risk/reward
>Mother fucking huge dinosaurs everywhere
>Lewd waifus and panties
>A variety of interesting characters not just Goku/Vegeta
World's strongest also barrows ideas from Akira and Hal 9000 which makes it great.

[Anonymous No.3115561]

>>3114715

Why is the Slug movie considered so bad, anyway?

I thought the first part was pretty cool, with the whole alien invasion thing, then the fights are fun, love that guy who can stretch his arms and dig underground and stuff.
Lord Slug himself was a nice throwback to Piccolo Daimaou, and that's why I think I love that movie (and villain) so much, the original Piccolo saga on DB is still one of my favorites.
And also it's a movie where Goku still doesn't transforms into SSJ, but uses the kaioh-ken which I think is also cool as hell.
I still remember I was confused when I first watched this movie though, because the title is "Son Goku the Super Saiyan", but he never transforms.

Anyway, I also like movies 2 and 3, but I never liked the Garlic one... maybe I should rewatch it since a lot of people praise it, but I remember it being boring. Never really liked Garlic or his henchmen, I also found the Garlic mini-arc after Freezer boring on the TV series.

[Anonymous No.3116654]

>>3115561
I give it credit for giving Goku a cool proto super saiyan form.

[Anonymous No.3116708]

>>3114715
I never understood the hate for lord Slug, I thought it was a fairly strong movie, not as good as the first three but way better than what followed.

[Anonymous No.3116714]

>>3115561
Garlic movie has some fantastic animation, really high quality. The fights are also fantastic, it definitely has a slower build up though so maybe it was just because you were a kid? I know I like it way more as an adult.

[Anonymous No.3117317]

>>3114794
You should go back and read his early stuff like Dr. Slump. Maybe not the mecha you're looking for, but the main character is a robot.

[Anonymous No.3117416]

>>3115561
This movie was released prior to Super Saiyan being a solid concept in the manga. Although it is mentioned a few times before Goku goes blonde.

[Anonymous No.3117593]

>>3114583

Me too, I want to play as all the characters from Butouden 1 and 3 with SB2's gameplay.
SB3 is pretty similar, or almost the same, as 2, I don't think it would be too hard to hack these 2 and make an ultimate game, but I don't know shit about hacking so I may be wrong.

But still I kind of like SB2's unorthodox roster.
Not being able to play as Goku from the start disappointed me as a kid, also the fact I didn't know who half the other guys were back then. But today I really enjoy the roster, besides all the best fighters from the Cell saga being there, and Cell himself, you've got Zangya and Boujack, it was the first time characters from a movie appeared on a DBZ fighting game. Not to mention Broly.
So with the unlock code, you've got 10 characters including Goku and Broly, and I like the variety, you have big characters like Cell, Boujack and Broly, middle ones like Goku, Vegeta, etc and smaller ones like Gohan, Zangya and Cell Jr.

Giving it perspective, it made sense that Goku wasn't playable by default because when this game came out, Goku had just died on the manga/series, so, plot-wise, it makes sense. But anyway you can unlock him so no problem at all, I just wish I knew that code when I was a kid and rented this game, or the turbo code. Still enjoyed it a lot, rented it multiple times.

And speaking of this game, I wanted to have a Butoden on 5th gen systems that looked like the sprites on SB2's story mode. These were so nice and detailed. A shame they went for that weird thing they did on UB22/Shin Butoden.

[Anonymous No.3117616]

>>3117593
Euro? It kinda amazes me that these were actually released outside of Japan.

[Anonymous No.3117639]

>>3117616

Latin America, what I rented was a bootleg copy in japanese, but yes SB2 was released in France and I think some other countries, maybe Italy or Spain.
SB2 was going to be released in USA, Ban Dai was doing the english version and the title was going to be simply "Dragon ball", with the old DB western logo. The whole latin america was hyped for this game, but I think Ban Dai cancelled it due to DBZ still being obscure in USA in 1995, maybe they thought it wouldn't sell, but it would have sold decently in countries like Mexico, Argentina, Chile, etc.

[Anonymous No.3118317]

>Download english hack of shenlong no nazo to give it a try.
>Mfw gameplay

They weren't fucking kidding when they said this game as hard. Either that or i'm a huge scrub.

Then again I might just prefer advanced adventure.

But this game certainly has some difficulty, so i'm not surprised not many back in the day bothered to beat this fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.3118339]

>>3118317
theres a gamecenter cx episode on it

it convinced me not to play it

[Anonymous No.3119284]

Should I play Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 3, or Super DBZ next?

Never played any of the newer 3D Dragonballs.

[Anonymous No.3121638]

bump

[Anonymous No.3124407]

>>3121638
bump

[Anonymous No.3124567]

I watched the first Broly movie last night.

Why does it feel like every DBZ movie ends with Goku getting power from everyone else and then killing the bad guy in one blow?

[Anonymous No.3124624]

>>3124567
Because that's how the plots usually end.

[Anonymous No.3124627]

>>3124567
You're in for a nice surprise with the last two movies, then.

[Anonymous No.3124684]

>>3100462
>Juckie-Chun
da fuck?

[Anonymous No.3124693]

>>3119284

BT3 is the best of that bunch. Budokai 3 is okay, a huge step up from 2 in almost every way, but BT3 is just awesome. Huge amount of content, some fun "what if" stories, and IIRC it's also got some GT content (even though GT's shit it's fun to have the characters from it).

[Anonymous No.3124728]

>>3124684
go watch dragon ball son

[Anonymous No.3124774]

>>3124728
I think he might be upset that it isn't Jackie-chun like it's supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.3124781]

>>3124774
In Japanese they use an "ah" sound for Jackie.

[Anonymous No.3125085]

I just discovered that this exists, it includes various DB/DBZ games including Super Butoden 2.
And unlike the recent re-release of SB2 with Extreme Butoden, this one has the original BGM.

[Anonymous No.3125110]

>>3125085
oh man
that looks amazing

[Anonymous No.3127064]

>>3124693
Guess I'll give BT3 a try first then. What about Super? I heard it was made by a guy that worked on Street Fighter.

[Anonymous No.3127953]

>>3095172
Same. I like how you can make the humans survive the nappa battle and go to namek with them. That special ending fight was a neat bonus too.
>>3095256
Wasted many hours back in early 97 on the saturn version and spoiling me the series from the freeza saga to the end with some end-boss pink alien faggot.
Kickass soundtrack, great roster and kicking enemies against mountains was satisfying.
Pissed that Super Trunks from Cell Saga(the one that was super fast) isn't playable aside that chapter. And how they took out dialogue in the west version before the chapter begins(when pics roll like recaps), characters dialogues on the character menu when battle and the ending theme with no lyrics.
>>3100513
What the other anon said, plus ki auras and the special attacks look MUCH better on saturn.
>>3099216
2nd Super Gokuden has a bunch. I done 2, one where Tenshinhan sacrifices doing the mafuba on Piccolo in the tournament. The other one was Gohan watching Piccolo killing his father while trying to kill Raditz, Gohan got insane, killed Piccolo, joined Vegeta and Nappa while destroying Earth. The problem is that everytime you get a what-if you start the game AGAIN from the 23rd budokai. So, the only way to advoid this is savestating before doing the what-if, watch it, re-load the savestat and go to the next one.
Shin Budokai 2 is about the Buu Saga on the Future Trunks'future. DBZ The Legend/Legends has little things like, you can beat Freeza without Super Saiyan, just don't let Krillin die. 16 will only appear in the android chapter if you play with Goku. Fat Buu will only appear if Goku and Vegeta take shit ton of damage and Goku gets back to base form to do the spirit bomb later.

[Anonymous No.3127964]

>>3114774
It's almost like the series is total shit kept afloat only by nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.3128085]

>>3114774


nobody was discussing sub vs dub I think, the dub version of dragon ball everywhere sans USA and UK (and maybe some other region, Australia?) had the original music score, not a thing of dub vs sub.