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/stg/ - Shmups Thread: Post Your Score Anonymous Thu Mar 24 15:36:40 2016 No.3087514 [Reply] [Original]

For anything related to 2D scrolling shooter games.

Let's discuss:
>favorite shmups
>recent acquisitions
>latest accomplishments

Previous thread:
>>2952754

Current happenings:
>Raiden V is out now on Xbone
>Deathsmiles released on steam
>Blue Revolver gets to alpha stage
>Dariusburst CS has SEGA content

New to the genre of shmups? Check out this page:
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/shooters/shmups-101-a-beginners-guide-to-2d-shooters

Shmup Collection containing over 9000 MAME romsets:
https://www.mediafire.com/?48812jiax8m1c#nz0227tzb9zor

Decide the greatest shmup developer of all time here:
http://strawpoll.me/4496713

For a realtime chatroom, head over to our #shmups channel:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?nick=Anon?&theme=cli#shmups

List of the hardest clears, ranked in order of difficulty:
http://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php?STG%A5%E9%A5%F3%A5%AF%B0%EC%CD%F7

Play Twinkle Star Sprites online with fellow shmup fans:
https://www.fightcade.com/game/twinspri

Video resources that explain superplay recordings:
https://www.youtube.com/user/STGWeekly

Highscore tables for several shmups (can track your own):
http://www.restartsyndrome.com/boardlist.php

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 05:20:32 2016 No.3088842 File: 29 KB, 320x239, delta7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have R-type Delta. Its a great game. It has a long difficulty curve. Graphics are fantastic for a 2.5 shooter on PSX.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 08:26:04 2016 No.3089007 >>3087514 >>>/vg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 14:46:29 2016 No.3089613 >>3089007 too much touhou, spam and memeposting in that thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 15:21:07 2016 No.3089676 >>3089007 Kill yourself danmaku scum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 15:48:56 2016 No.3089725 File: 176 KB, 320x224, RangerX003.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3087514 >X-Ranza That's not really a shmup...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 15:50:01 2016 No.3089729 >>3089725 Missed opportunity not using that ship for some shmup levels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:08:23 2016 No.3089761 File: 36 KB, 299x300, ikaruga-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3087514 Is this the most brilliant retro STG ever conceived?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:09:36 2016 No.3089765 >>3089761 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:11:02 2016 No.3089770 >>3089761 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:15:26 2016 No.3089782 >>3089761 No. It's the most brilliant game in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:21:23 2016 No.3089796 >>3089725 Don't run & gun games fall under shmups? Along with rail shooters, twin stick shooters, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:38:11 2016 No.3089829 >>3089761 >>3089765 >>3089770 >>3089782 Here's that (You) you wanted

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:42:46 2016 No.3089842 >>3089796 No, run n gun are run n gun. You shoot there too but that's not exactly everyting which makes a shmup. A shmup is more about dodging than shooting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:46:00 2016 No.3089859 >>3089842 >A shoot em up is more about dodging than shooting. What this world has come to?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:49:16 2016 No.3089870 >>3087514 I always liked parodius and fantasy zone but im probably in the minority

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:49:34 2016 No.3089871 >>3089859 Well, they still were the first shooting games regardless, so that's why people still call them shooting games I guess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 16:59:56 2016 No.3089881 >>3089870 Mr. Heli is the best cute em up and way too underrated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:01:48 2016 No.3089883 File: 503 KB, 640x480, Cannon Spike-2.jpg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3089842 Would that mean Cannon Spike is a shmup? There's plenty of dodging and bullet hell moments in it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:06:52 2016 No.3089895 >>3089881 I might try that one out, also i want to get into gradius and twinbee but do i just play the original or is there one i should start with?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:07:32 2016 No.3089896 >>3089883 I heard of this game for the first time now, but from what I've seen yes, it looks like a shmup to me, especially the boss fight I saw was totally shmup.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:10:00 2016 No.3089903 >>3089895 Just play whatever you like, but always play the Japanese arcade version if possible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:12:39 2016 No.3089907 >>3089903 Well yeah i mean i have mame so that shouldnt be a problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:13:53 2016 No.3089908 >>3089761 Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:13:58 2016 No.3089909 >>3089842 Wait so does that make space harrier a shmup?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:15:13 2016 No.3089912 >>3089909 Goddamn it, we all know what you're trying to pull here, it's one of those semantic trolls

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:16:05 2016 No.3089915 >>3089909 >rail shooters Space harrier is a rail shooter

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:16:28 2016 No.3089918 File: 255 KB, 1024x1458, sfz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will Star Fox Zero revive the shmup genre?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:17:53 2016 No.3089924 >>3089918 WiiU games are as retro as can be, this is now a WiiU thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:23:17 2016 No.3089931 >>3089918 That's also a rail shooter, not shmup

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:23:19 2016 No.3089932 >>3089912 No, i was just asking because his description is vague, i know its a rail shooter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:24:19 2016 No.3089936 >>3089918 Thats both not retro and also a rail shooter you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:28:23 2016 No.3089943 Who are your favorite western or JP superplayers, /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:30:25 2016 No.3089947 >>3088842 Just beat it with Cerberus, easy, though, third and fifth contact are a pain in the ass at hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:30:31 2016 No.3089948 >>3089943 I don't know a single one. The black guy that narrated a mushihime run on stg weekly was pretty amusing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU12DTKUMpk

Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:33:49 2016 No.3089952

>>3089932
My description is not vague at all. In rail shooters you also have to dodge of course, but not to the level how you must dodge in shmups, because in ral shooters the bullets or enemies always just come from the front and you just have to dodge them when they reach the screen, but in shmups the bullets come from everywhere and you must dodge them constantly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:36:30 2016 No.3089958 Omg you nerds arguing over semantics again. I hope you all catch aids and die. PEACE

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:39:53 2016 No.3089964 >>3089943 I don't have a favorite player because I'm not a dumb fanboy, but the run whch impressed me the most so far was the Ikaruga double play run from VTF-INO.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 17:46:16 2016 No.3089979 >>3089952 Ok, fair point, and i guess it is indeed semantics...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:09:47 2016 No.3090028 >>3089931 Aren't rail shooters just shmups but in 3D anyways?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:16:38 2016 No.3090037 >>3090028 I suppose, its semantics at this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:29:39 2016 No.3090057 >>3090028 Some of them, but the thing which really seperates shmups the most is the heavy focus on dodging. Rail shooters are more about aiming skills than dodging skills.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:44:29 2016 No.3090072 >>3089943 >Who are your favorite western or JP superplayers, /vr/? Sps,archer,syo,Kamui,Clover-TAC and ZBL-NAI off the top for Jp. For the west? Gus,BOS,Third-strike,tviks,Aquas and a bunch of others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:48:56 2016 No.3090084 >>3090028 >life bar no

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 18:53:17 2016 No.3090092 >>3090057 >focus on dodging. Stop playing shitmaku

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 19:00:45 2016 No.3090109 >>3090084 Star Fox Zero is supposedly going to have a one-hit-death mode.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 19:02:15 2016 No.3090117 >>3090084 >>life bar >no Tell that to Guwange

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 19:28:03 2016 No.3090156 >>3090109 Star fox zero is also irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 19:38:33 2016 No.3090174 Favorite developers? Mine so far are Raizing, Taito and Konami.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 19:57:49 2016 No.3090203 >>3090174 Psikyo, Hudson, Irem and Toaplan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:21:08 2016 No.3090241 >>3090092 In other games it's the same shithead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:25:04 2016 No.3090246 File: 376 KB, 854x930, joe0173.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TOE UH PLAWN

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:27:01 2016 No.3090252 >>3090174 Taito, Psikyo, Cave. Siter Skain gets an honorable mention.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:34:30 2016 No.3090263 >>3090174 Taito, treasure, Konami, capcom, and sega.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:37:32 2016 No.3090270 >>3090174 G.rev, Konami, Psikyo, Taito

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:38:33 2016 No.3090273 >>3089761 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:41:41 2016 No.3090280 am i the only one who can't play toaplan games with autofire if im not mashing the button im not concentrated and i die WAY more often

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 20:54:42 2016 No.3090297 >>3090280 You aren't the only one. Cho Ren Sha 68K's designer punishes you if you use autofire and says you should play manually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 22:17:57 2016 No.3090431 Is it better to use arcade stick, keyboard or pad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 22:44:33 2016 No.3090487 >>3090431 Yes, it is.

Anonymous Fri Mar 25 23:11:35 2016 No.3090526
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>>3089761
It's garbage that gets overrated by Cube kiddies.

Radiant Silvergun was the much more complete package. You got tons of bosses designed by the Alien Soldier and Mischief Makers guy, amazing orchestral soundtrack, a ship with seven different weapon types, a deeper scoring system that lets you choose to chain reds or blues or yellows (plus secret dogs and grazing) instead of just either 3x blacks or whites, superb level designs that feel inspired by R-Type, and some of the most technically impressive 2D graphics of all time. Oh, and the stupid bullet absorption gimmick is only limited to your melee sword and pink bullets, as opposed to... anything in Ikaruga.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 25 23:12:59 2016 No.3090529 >>3090526 Radiant Silvergun is times more overrated than Ikaruga at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 00:04:00 2016 No.3090594 >>3090526 Silverguns scoring system is flawed because you constantly have to leave enemies out just to score better, which feels really dumb. Also, just because the game has more content doesn't mean it's better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 00:14:43 2016 No.3090613 File: 3 KB, 620x36, pic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally able to get to level 4 consistently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:03:02 2016 No.3090710 are there any good shmups other than fantasy zone or is it the only one

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:09:51 2016 No.3090727 >>3090710 space harrier

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:11:20 2016 No.3090731 >>3090710 Ever heard of Gradius or R-Type?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:15:57 2016 No.3090737 >>3090710 try Parodius and Detana TwinBee

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:29:50 2016 No.3090760 Gradius or R-Type, /stg/? Do you prefer your horis spacey and cybernetic or veiny and penis-y?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:41:39 2016 No.3090785 >>3090760 R-Type is also cybernetic though. More than Gradius in fact. Gradius is more naturalistically-organic in comparison to R-Type.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:41:53 2016 No.3090786 >>3090613 >international Nice try fighter

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:43:03 2016 No.3090787 >>3090786 Is there a difference? Should I play the JP version or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 01:48:06 2016 No.3090793 >>3090787 there's not

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 03:39:05 2016 No.3090939 >>3090760 Gradius because infinite loops > 2 loops. Also rank system.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 04:07:11 2016 No.3090979 >>3090174 >Favorite developers? Psikyo,cave,raizing,success,takumi and milestone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 05:56:18 2016 No.3091108 >>3090979 >Milestone Weren't they the ones who made those crappy Dreamcast shumps and then went bankrupt for money laundering?

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 07:55:31 2016 No.3091258

>>3091108
They weren't crappy at all i mean fuck me they had the greatest osts ever and made extremely fun games in an original style (doing things differently isnt popular with the stubborn autistic cunts that is the shmups community see vasara,psyvariar etc for more examples of great original ideas not getting attention because not the traditional muh dodges style). You don't have to like them but calling them crappy is stupid and yeah they went bankrupt for some shadyness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 08:00:21 2016 No.3091264 >>3091108 >>3091258 Their games weren't bad but at the same time they were somewhat generic. Radirgy and Karous had great style and music though. Shame the handheld versions of those two games are atrocious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 14:49:46 2016 No.3091803 >>3091264 Aren't they completely different games? Too bad the 3DS doesn't have one complete screen, it'd work well for STG's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 14:54:31 2016 No.3091808 Trying to 1cc R-Type. What are the strategies for level 5 and final boss?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:12:57 2016 No.3091840 >>3091808 >level 5 learn where the crabs come from, don't get trapped by the shield looking things' lasers >final boss stay in the middle-left, fire your pod into the boss' core, dodge the spirals if necessary

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:28:17 2016 No.3091871

>>3091840

Thanks, I meant level 5 boss though, I got the stage pretty much figured out.

I find that I'm much better if I don't take any speed powerups, but then Bydo fucks me up because I can't dodge his boulders. I saw playthroughs on youtube where he's damage rushed and stripped before he can move, but I can't reliably recreate that.

Also the final boss is exploited by staying in middle left, where the whirlpools can't get to you and not moving, but it sometimes happens that the troopers come at you from the wrong angle - is there a way to prevent that.

Trying to do the last boss in a legit manner is quite impossible for me I've tried. Hate to use that exploit and would sure prefer to do it in style, but all that madness is undodgeable. Same with junkyard, I use the horizontal safe spot, because it cannot be done otherwise.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 15:57:28 2016 No.3091919

>>3091871
>Also the final boss is exploited by staying in middle left, where the whirlpools can't get to you and not moving, but it sometimes happens that the troopers come at you from the wrong angle - is there a way to prevent that.

If you have the side pods, you can just ram into enemies that come from the walls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 16:45:37 2016 No.3092023 File: 326 KB, 320x224, cube-rush2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuck this shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:00:45 2016 No.3092059 >>3091258 my fucking nigga

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:15:39 2016 No.3092081 File: 2.14 MB, 480x360, cube.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3092023

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:22:25 2016 No.3092108 >>3089796 No, rail shooters and twin sticks are different genres. Shmups are their own thing. Ranger X is neither. It's not even really a run n gun, it's just an action game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:55:30 2016 No.3092178 >>3092023 why did you even move, you're safe if you stay in that corner

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:58:54 2016 No.3092183 >>3092178 No you're not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 17:59:51 2016 No.3092185 >>3092183 that entire corner is a well known safe spot though

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:04:15 2016 No.3092192 >>3092081 this looks no fun no fun at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:09:21 2016 No.3092206 >>3092185 There's nothing safe about it until enough cubes have built up to completely seal you off. Before then it's extremely likely that one of them will make it all the way across and nail you from behind

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 18:47:55 2016 No.3092275 >>3092081 That level is the reason i will never clear Gradius III, i mean yeah the other levels are dan tough but still doable, this shit is just bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 20:56:58 2016 No.3092526 >>3091803 What do you mean by that? Couldnt they just use the top screen or am I missing something here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:01:02 2016 No.3092534 Guys, the term 'shmup' sounds retarded. Let's use shoot 'em up. If you say shmup you sound like you are saying what you are, which is a schmuck

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:03:19 2016 No.3092537

>>3090710
Fantasy zone II (the system 16 version), gokujyou parodius (snes version), twinbee, and 1943 are pretty fun. Im not sure if it counts but sonson is also pretty good. I reccomend those in particular because save for 1943, all of those can be technically called cute em ups. Im saying this as someone who also holds fantasy zone in high regard. Also while not a shmup technically, space harrier is pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 21:40:07 2016 No.3092629 >>3090710 super fantasy zone

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 22:20:24 2016 No.3092697 >>3092683 >no hex score work on your milking, fampie

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 23:03:05 2016 No.3092770

>>3091258
I thought Psyvariar was pretty well received? I mean I used to get it recommended all the time years ago (like 2007-8 when I was first realizing how big the genre was) but now it seems the opposite. Personally I like 1 a bit more but both games are definitely interesting and make a nice variation on the typical dodging style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 23:12:06 2016 No.3092796 >>3092770 Grazing to score is a retarded gimmick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 23:30:31 2016 No.3092819 File: 133 KB, 800x600, r9a2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3090760 R-Type, because I'm a sucker for buddy pods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 26 23:40:44 2016 No.3092832 Why do horizontal scrollers seem so much harder than vertical to me? I can usually get to the third or so level within a few tries of a vertical shmup, but I don't think I've ever even seen the third level of a horizontal one.

Anonymous Sat Mar 26 23:41:09 2016 No.3092834

>>3092526
He means that the screen isn't continuous. This is something I got used to after a while, but the aspect ratio would be almost-correct for a vert shmup if done right. For a lot of people the gap in between screens can create problems. Again, if you play long enough you can adapt to it like many things.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 00:16:34 2016 No.3092889

>>3092796
It's hardly a gimmick, it's the main gameplay element. If you'd look past what shmups 'should be' you'd probably realize that. People like you are why the genre died in the popular vernacular; you people want the same kind of games forever and ever isntead of playing something new/innovative. Saying grazing to score is a gimmick is like saying jumping in mario is a gimmick. I bet you rip on Ikaruga for being gimmicky as well, right? And to calrify, I'm hardly Ikaruga's biggest fan (because you traditionalists just /so/ love to shit on Ikaruga) but it at least tried something different. I like Gradius and R-type as much as the next guy, but the games have to experiment in order to grow gameplay-wise.

Now get the fuck out of my genre.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 01:25:51 2016 No.3092969 >>3092889 It's a gimmick because it's a stupid idea that only promotes boring ass milking in order to gain better scores. Next you're going to tell me that Touhou games are well-designed, eh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 01:27:14 2016 No.3092973 >>3092969 I agree with this guy, grazing is a horrible mechanic. I hate the Raiden Fighters series so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 01:56:09 2016 No.3093002 >>3092969 I literally hate touhou, lol. If I'm going to play danmaku (never) It would surely not be that. For reference my favorite shmups are Batrider and Darius Gaiden.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 02:17:35 2016 No.3093042 Mahou Daisakusen looked so refreshingly easy when I first started it. Then I entered the second loop...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 03:14:45 2016 No.3093138 >>3092081 Fucking tv1cks man. Guy is so good I can imagine him being confused if you were to complain to him about exceedingly brutal games like Gradius III being so bloody hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:01:31 2016 No.3093225 >>3092973 Viper Phase One is the GOAT Raiden game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIpGqRFfzI

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:04:48 2016 No.3093231 >>3092023 >>3092081 Was Gradius III the first danmaku?

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:43:17 2016 No.3093285

>>3091264
>they were somewhat generic.
In what reality were they generic? Did you even play them? As someone who played karous, radirgy and illvelo for high score I can tell you they are not generic at all although do capture the feel of compile (i think milestone had some ex compile staff).

>>3092770
Fairly i guess but hardly anyone actually learned to play it properly and it's a shame, i'd like to see them all on steam desu.

>>3092969
Oh look a pleb arises, grazing in psyvariar isnt anything like shiki,touhous or raiden fighters grazing at all as it's so closely connected to surviving and evey level up grants you like 2 seconds of invincibility to go nuts, fuck it why am i even trying to explain this to some spastic cunt who doesn't even play these games beyond beginner level...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:51:25 2016 No.3093301 >>3093042 Sorcer Striker is easier, so try that if you want a 2all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 05:13:33 2016 No.3093326 >>3093231 You have to wonder if the devs knew how bullshit this part was. I can't imagine any of them actually clearing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 06:16:52 2016 No.3093413 >>3093002 Batrider has grazing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 07:56:08 2016 No.3093539 >>3092834 I see what you mean. Although i saw a shmup running on both screens once and it didnt look all that bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 14:52:32 2016 No.3094349 >>3093413 It's insignificant though. The main scoring element is bombing and chaining medals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 15:15:29 2016 No.3094409 https://www-twitch-tv/stgweekly/v/56806349 Raiden V is up!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 15:16:57 2016 No.3094414 >>3093285 So it's casualized grazing. Big fucking whoop. That's even worse than regular bullet scratching lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 16:16:32 2016 No.3094562 >>3092832 Because checkpoints, huge hitboxes and more emphasis on memorizing levels. They aren't harder once you get past those first few tries and start to learn the games though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:03:37 2016 No.3094632 What's the best one on Genesis, and is Insector X good

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:04:23 2016 No.3094634 >>3094632 Trouble Shooter Vintage

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:41:15 2016 No.3094707 >>3094632 One of the Thunderforce games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:17:24 2016 No.3094791 File: 118 KB, 640x910, steel-empire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Great Euroshmup, or greatest Euroshmup?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:27:04 2016 No.3095272 >>3094791 My nigga. Nobody ever gives this game the attention it deserves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:47:07 2016 No.3095318 >>3094791 >euro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_B

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:54:41 2016 No.3095492 >>3094414 What games do you play then, o oasis of taste in this sea of plebs? Please descend form the heavens and give me your answer so we can all have the same fucking opinion. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:56:37 2016 No.3095496 >>3095318 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_B "Euroshmup" is a genre, not a reference to country of origin. There are Japanese euroshmups just like there are American JRPGs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:07:44 2016 No.3095515 >>3095496 So any shooter than you don't die with one bullet is a euroshmups now? then i guess Darius and Gradius II are euroshmup too

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:09:09 2016 No.3095518 >>3095496 So any shooter that you don't die with one bullet is an euroshmup now? then i guess Darius and Gradius II are euroshmups too

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:11:49 2016 No.3095527 >>3095518 I don't recall Darius and Gradius having mandatory health gauges... Or do you think a shield that you have to earn is the same thing as health?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:12:16 2016 No.3095528 >>3095518 Exactly, at least darius and gradius made your hitbox twice as big with the shields on though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:13:18 2016 No.3095532 >>3095518 I have heard people unironically call Darius an euroshmuck before.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:13:18 2016 No.3095534 File: 32 KB, 131x178, well.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:14:19 2016 No.3095538 >>3094632 Insector x on genesis is a remake, not a port. so essentially YES. Go look up some arcade screens and compare it to the Genesis and you'll see what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:16:21 2016 No.3095545 >>3095527 It's a similar concept, especially in Darius where you get the shield in about 30 seconds. Steel Empire doesn't feel like an euro shooter at all, the main draw in those games in buying stuff for your ship.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:21:10 2016 No.3095563 >>3095545 That's the main draw in Tyrian style games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:24:41 2016 No.3095573 >>3095534 Shouldn't laser give you a slight advantage at bosses. I don't know, I always play exy in doj (laser + shot powerups minus 2 bombs).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:26:10 2016 No.3095579 File: 77 KB, 500x496, bangaio-dc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3089761 No and It's not even Treasure's best game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:56:55 2016 No.3095654 >>3095534 >>3095573 Come to think of it that should give you a hint which is the unbalanced mode since the laser power up takes away one bomb in doj.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:01:23 2016 No.3095662 So to define a Euroshmup: >health bars >shops >poor level design >poor enemy design >usually shit music >usually generic visuals >ship physics/inertia >wonky collision detection Am I forgetting anything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:02:50 2016 No.3095668 >>3095534 I cheesed a 1-ALL with C-S, but I hear the "proper" way to play is with laser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:03:10 2016 No.3095669 >>3095662 Takes approximately 5 hours to clear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:05:00 2016 No.3095675 >>3095662 >poor >poor >poor That doesn't mean Euros are bad though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:14:11 2016 No.3095697 >>3095662 >unavoidable hits

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:16:27 2016 No.3095701 >>3095662 >poor level design >poor enemy design >usually shit music >usually generic visuals >ship physics/inertia >wonky collision detection These aren't exclusive to euroshmups.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:17:43 2016 No.3095703 >>3095701 but you see them most often in euroshmups

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:18:30 2016 No.3095705 >>3095662 >>poor level design So basically every vert ever?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:18:38 2016 No.3095706 >>3095703 You need to play more korean shmups then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:19:24 2016 No.3095707 >>3095705 lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:19:48 2016 No.3095709 I'm tired of dying on the fourth and fifth stages of DDP, what should I play to break up the tedium

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:22:28 2016 No.3095717 File: 102 KB, 1036x384, imgfight-14[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3095705 Someone hasn't gotten to playing Image Fight yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:23:17 2016 No.3095718 >>3095717 This hurts to look at, any fun?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:27:05 2016 No.3095723 >>3095709 Bee Storm, you get 8 bombs every time you die and the game randomly spawns a million more bombs just in case you didn't spam enough. You'll need a recent mame though, it won't work on shmup mame.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:35:27 2016 No.3095734
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>>3095718

It's like R-Type except you fling your bits like yo-yos instead of your shield, which can't be removed and is good for 1-hit only. It's hard as hell, but totally radical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cwuG_4c8o

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:55:54 2016 No.3095773 File: 2.09 MB, 320x240, silvergun111.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3095717 Or Radiant Silvergun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:57:50 2016 No.3095775 >>3095773 that looks awful pham

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:00:10 2016 No.3095779 >>3095775 List of people who asked your opinion: >

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:04:35 2016 No.3095787 >>3093231 Honestly some of the bullet density in this game's normal arcade version is bullshit. Hell even the SNES's butchered port does it at some points...maybe CAVE saw it and thought the slowdown on that version was intentional, hahah

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:06:41 2016 No.3095793 >>3095787 Not CAVE but Yagawa was definitely influenced by Gradius 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:09:37 2016 No.3095798 >>3095793 Pretty much every major shmup dev was either influenced by or respects Gradius. It was essentially the grandfather of shmups, not necessarily the first but the first to incorporate several ideas that later shmups would follow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:11:16 2016 No.3095804 >>3095705 Just because a game has environmental hazards doesnt mean it has better design. Good level design needs much more than just walls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:12:23 2016 No.3095810 Not this bullshit again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:12:48 2016 No.3095813 >>3095798 True, if I recall right yagawa's first game was a gradius 2 clone. Then there was the rank manipulation by avoiding items in Garegga.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:14:37 2016 No.3095816 >>3095813 This was his first game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQSNUKXuOFQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:21:38 2016 No.3095836 >>3095813 R-Type's lead programmer was also a huge Gradius fan and played it a bunch. Most Toaplan shmups feel Gradius-inspired, like Slap Fight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:22:54 2016 No.3095837 >>3095836 That's true. The power up system in slap fight is right out of Gradius.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:36:47 2016 No.3095859 >>3095836 Ironically the devs stated in interviews that they sucked at making vertis and that the reason the home ports got good (and in fact better than the arcade versions) was because other people would help making them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:37:49 2016 No.3095863 >>3095836 >>3095859 re: Toaplan

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:41:16 2016 No.3095871 >>3095859 >that they sucked at making vertis You mean horis? toaplan's strenght was vertical

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:42:00 2016 No.3095873 >>3095871 Yeah horis, my bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:43:42 2016 No.3095876 >>3095871 I thought the proper terms were tate and yoko?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:21:21 2016 No.3095925 >>3095876 Those are the Japanese terms. Are we speaking Japanese right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:39:05 2016 No.3095942 >>3095859 Wanna see sources on that. Buy yeah they only made Hellfire and Zero Wing which are better on home consoles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:41:13 2016 No.3095946 Do you prefer diagonal movement vectors being normalized or not, /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:42:06 2016 No.3095947 >>3095946 wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:44:04 2016 No.3095950 >>3095946 Even ZUN does correct diagonal movement, there's really no excuse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:54:14 2016 No.3095964 >>3095947 In other words, normalized means all input moves the same, whereas diagonals are slower than up/down/left/right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:14:20 2016 No.3097230 >>3095787 I think it's just because Ikeda is a hack that thinks more bullets makes your shmup better by default. Cave 2nd loops are pretty much impossible to not die/bomb in because of artificial difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:26:28 2016 No.3097445 Dariusburst CS is $25 on gmg right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:33:41 2016 No.3097464 >>3097230 People like to blame CAVE for bullet hell but I think it was a market preference thing. Who developed Dangun Feveron? Was that also Ikeda?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:46:08 2016 No.3097497 >>3095793 >but Yagawa was definitely influenced by Gradius 3. Not as much as he was inspired by Gun frontier.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:56:08 2016 No.3097518

>>3097464
>Producer - Takano Kenichi

>Graphics Designers - Ogiwara Naoki, Tanaka Hiroyuki

>Programmers - CRUSTY, Ichimura Takashi, Uchida Hiroyuki

>Sound - Yabuki Ryuichi, Quark Company, T's Music

No Ikeda in sight, which probably explains why it was one of the few good Cave shooters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:02:22 2016 No.3098112 File: 101 KB, 640x908, g3and4cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this the definitive version to play Gradius III?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:16:10 2016 No.3098252 What's the best ship in DBCS? I'm using Gaiden right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:18:47 2016 No.3098262 >>3098252 Next, Second and Gaiden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:58:59 2016 No.3098306 >>3098252 Night Striker, nothing else even compares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 02:52:48 2016 No.3098685 >>3098112 Pretty much and it has iv which is awesome.

Anonymous Tue Mar 29 09:52:18 2016 No.3099126
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What are some other games like Defender or Fantasy Zone? Where it's like a shmup, but you move freely back and forth in a continual level like this? Are they just called shmups or is there another name for them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 14:44:14 2016 No.3099710 >>3099126 Free-roaming shmups?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 19:29:37 2016 No.3100506 File: 97 KB, 450x600, gradiusv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Favorite Gradius V weapon layout? Mine is 2-way/double/ripple/freeze/shields.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 20:11:09 2016 No.3100618 Anyone here like the 194X games? (1942, 1943/1943 kai, 1941)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 20:13:56 2016 No.3100625 >>3100618 19xx is my jam

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 20:22:16 2016 No.3100648 What are the best shumps to play 2 players with? me and a friend want to 1cc a game together

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 20:36:34 2016 No.3100694 >>3100648 twinkle star sprites and change air blade

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 22:25:51 2016 No.3100927 >>3100625 Oh, i always prefered 1942 or 1943 myself...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 22:27:26 2016 No.3100936 >>3100927 How's 1943 Kai was thinking of buying it to add to my pc engine collection

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 02:01:23 2016 No.3101258

>>3095942
>We started this game because we wanted to see if Toaplan could make a great horizontal STG, too. But it was a series of one hardship after the other, and we experienced firsthand that the "exhiliration" Toaplan always seeked in its games couldn't be achieved in a horizontal format.

>I think horizontal STG requires a different kind of appeal. You need the technical know-how for dealing with terrain, and various other different game design ideas to make it interesting. We were inexperienced with everything and it was a real struggle, but we did our best and finished it. (Uemura)

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=42490

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 02:02:37 2016 No.3101262 >>3101258 Horizontal shmups confirmed technically superior.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 15:09:49 2016 No.3102191 I'm going to get Psyvariar Complete on PS2 since somebody in this thread said it's a good STG. Should I play Medium Unit or Revision first?

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 15:18:01 2016 No.3102206
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>>3099710
That sounds like a good name for them, but what are other examples of games like that? I can barely think of any besides those.

Bangai-O is a little similar, but not really.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 16:28:03 2016 No.3102323 >>3102206 Why was Dreamcast Bangai-O so much better than N64's?

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 16:58:30 2016 No.3102383
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>>3102323

What makes you think it's "so much better" on the DC? The graphics?
The controls are infinitely better on the N64, as the game was build to be played with that, and the game system is a lot more complex and challenging. Maybe if you like a simplified version of it, then yeah the DC one is better, but I prefer Bangai-O with combo-meter and progressive upgrades.
And still I think the 16-bitish graphics on the N64 are charming, can't say I like the graphics on the DC better.

I still like both versions though, have a lot of nostalgia for the DC one since it was the first one I played.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:12:12 2016 No.3102406 >>3102323 In the N64 you hold Z to charge your special attack. In the DC your special attack strength is defined by how many bullets you are grazing at the time when you pressed the trigger.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:28:16 2016 No.3102436

>>3102383
Less slowdown when shit gets real, extra unique content, and better music quality.

Also, "infinitely"? Stop exaggerating. There is nothing wrong with Dreamcast's controls, when you set it to A/B/X/Y for shooting it plays as good as N64's. If you want a game with really awful controls, check out Mischief Makers.

>progressive upgrades.
>unironically liking shops in shmups
Get out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:37:54 2016 No.3102453 >>3102383 Everything was improved on the DC version except for the controls, but the DC version controls well enough anyways.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:49:19 2016 No.3102469
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>>3102436
>Get out.
Woah, hit some nerve there I think. To each their own, I said I still like the DC version as it was the first one I played, but I ended up liking the original better, I think the game system makes for a more satisfying game than the DC one.
And no, I don't think the face buttons on the DC are as good as the small C buttons on the N64 which are like having a secondary d-pad. I think the best way to play Bangai-O is with the d-pad and 3D stick though.

The extra content is nice but when it comes to the overall package I still prefer the original.

>unironically liking shops in shmups

>unironically liking shops in shmups

You unironically don't like grandma's shop? You'll make her weep, you evil anon!
Also, you don't like the Fantasy Zone games?
And I don't know what Mischief Makers has to do with this thread, it's not a shmup.

>>3102453
To be clear (again) I never said the DC version is bad, but besides the controls being better, I like the original's game system more, it feels more rewarding to upgrade your shots with combo-meters, and it's also a lot more intense since HP refills are limited instead of dropping out randomly when you shoot.

Anyway I think a fan of the game will want to play both versions, as both have good stuff to offer.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:07:01 2016 No.3102492

>>3102469
Nice blog, but the DC version is objectively superior in everything except controls, but even then they're more than serviceable. Doesn't matter if you think the old gameplay system is better, because Treasure wouldn't have changed the gameplay if they didn't think it could be refined and more balanced.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:14:50 2016 No.3102508
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>>3102492
>Nice blog

I didn't write anything about my personal life... are you OK anon? Long posts don't make it automatically a blog post. And my post wasn't even that long, don't be lazy.

It's OK, I think it's good that we can play both versions. I don't think the DC one is more balanced, I think it's just easier and less complex, but it's still nice and it has extra content, so it's worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:04:50 2016 No.3102618 File: 3 KB, 384x288, takumi.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Giga Wing 4 when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:11:27 2016 No.3102629 >>3102618 It's called Mars Matrix?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:14:48 2016 No.3102640 >>3102508 tiresome euro breaky brokey english mister please help me monkey type poster. go away

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:17:04 2016 No.3102645 >>3102640 wat How about YOU go away, pal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:20:04 2016 No.3102652 File: 221 KB, 441x280, Game_Paradise_Video.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3089761 いいえ THIS IS! IT EVEN COMES WITH A VHS TAPE! やった https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTf2IVMQIrI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8wetoiG-E

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:22:46 2016 No.3102654 >>3102629 No, that's Giga Wing Gaiden: Deep Space Edition What I'm talking about is a sequel to Yokushin Giga Wing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:01:28 2016 No.3102753 >>3100936 Im not sure actually, but from what i can recall its pretty good...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:20:10 2016 No.3102774 >>3102508 Great blog, would read again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:22:27 2016 No.3102778 >>3102508 Are the Bangai-O sequels on DS and Xbox 360 any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:28:39 2016 No.3102785 >>3102778 DS one is watered down and is more puzzle oriented than action oriented.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:32:35 2016 No.3102790 >>3102774 Thanks! >>3102778 If you like Bangai-O yes, the 360 one especially, the DS one is a bit weird, more centred on puzzle, might be disappointing to some but still worth checking out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:38:14 2016 No.3102803 At what point do I accept that I'll never 1cc these games and go back to credit feeding?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:44:08 2016 No.3102814 >>3102803 About a year or so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:48:42 2016 No.3102823 >>3102803 >credit feeding shmups No. Just no. You should give up and reset the game when you run out of lives no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:52:02 2016 No.3102827 >>3102823 That's what I've been doing, but it's starting to get pretty frustrating. I feel like I'm not making any progress or getting much better at the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:57:16 2016 No.3102835 >>3102827 read up on some routes in the game you're playing, no need to reinvent wheels if you're using an emulator, practice hard points with savestates what are you playing btw?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 02:43:40 2016 No.3103442 >>3102652 Game Tengoku? Is it actually good, or is it just meme-worthy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 02:46:47 2016 No.3103448 File: 189 KB, 649x484, no.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3102823

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 02:58:21 2016 No.3103471 >>3103448 Exceptions don't make the rule.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 07:08:05 2016 No.3103850 >>3102827 >I feel like I'm not making any progress or getting much better at the game. So start thinking about wtf you are doing more you fucking idiot.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 07:09:39 2016 No.3103854

>>3102191
>Should I play Medium Unit or Revision first?
Medium unit is a bit more limited as every bullet can only be grazed once whilst revision lifts the lid on limits and gos all out. You'l have to try both and see which sticks more, i enjoyed and played both alot fyi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 15:34:55 2016 No.3104660 File: 230 KB, 638x678, shmupsoda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 15:35:54 2016 No.3104661 >>3104660 Enjoy your kidney stones

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 15:39:53 2016 No.3104665 >>3104660 What if I like Pepsi and Gradius?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 15:40:11 2016 No.3104669 >>3104660 this is accurate on so many levels considering like soda there are people out there who enjoy all 3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 15:51:01 2016 No.3104682 Raptor: Call of the Shadows for DOS is one of the best top down shooters I've ever played. It's often overlooked because it's on PC though. That and all of the Windows ports have been bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 16:11:11 2016 No.3104710 >>3103442 You will overdose from high pitched uguu voices and every wacky arcade refrence possible. It also looks like a blast to play.

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 16:15:50 2016 No.3104718

>>3103442
You chain items like in psykyo games except you don't have to wait for them to blink bullshit.
Later on one of the background layers bugs out on mame, it's nothing unplayable but you'll have to emulate on ssf if you're super serious about accuracy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 16:17:55 2016 No.3104725 >>3104682 Is it related to Tyrian in any way?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 16:42:34 2016 No.3104763 >>3104718 >ssf damn when's yabause gonna get better compatibility?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:15:35 2016 No.3104851 >>3103471 You don't make the rules, either. >>3102814 I think I've been at Space Harrier for about a year, on and off. I think I'm somehow getting worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:20:34 2016 No.3104865 >>3104851 You do realise the only reason he had to credit-feed was so he could practise certain patterns that he would die a lot to, right? With MAME there is no reason to credit-feed since you can practise with savestates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:27:07 2016 No.3104879 >>3104851 >space harrier you do know that game has continues right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:45:32 2016 No.3104923 >>3104665 that's not the point, his point here is that each of the sodas kind of correspond with the franchise in question. at least that's what I took from it, I could be wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:46:36 2016 No.3104925 File: 12 KB, 220x200, ffffff.u3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3104851 >I think I'm somehow getting worse. I know that feel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:47:38 2016 No.3104929 >>3104763 Haven't tried yabause but it should work with frameskip.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:48:39 2016 No.3104934 >>3103448 That yerrow nigger cheated. His world record shouldn't count anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:49:39 2016 No.3104938 >>3104923 I think his point is that it's all the same shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:53:06 2016 No.3104947 >>3104660 Gradius is the original, R-Type is more sugar-coated for casuals, and Darius is a generic knock-off of the one true king of soda? Sounds about right 2bh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 17:57:06 2016 No.3104957 File: 73 KB, 547x275, thunderforce-cherryvanilladp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3104660 You forgot one, familia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:02:47 2016 No.3104970 >>3104938 that's also true...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:05:35 2016 No.3104979 File: 34 KB, 320x224, Fantasy_Zone.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3104957 Also this one

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:11:12 2016 No.3104998 >>3104979 fantasy zone sucks ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:12:06 2016 No.3105005 >>3104998 Your mom sucks ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:14:09 2016 No.3105016 >>3104998 you were born sucking ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:22:00 2016 No.3105034 File: 667 KB, 1000x494, 2hu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3104660

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:30:59 2016 No.3105060 >>3105034 that would be because you might as well fucking drink clorox if you play 2hu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 18:39:10 2016 No.3105093 >>3105034 good 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 21:10:54 2016 No.3105442 >>3105034 That's pretty epic, senpai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 21:42:22 2016 No.3105512 >>3104660 Actually that reminds me, I wanted to start playing the darius games, is there one in specific i should start with?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 22:20:58 2016 No.3105598 >>3105512 Gaiden's my favorite, and G is very good. The newest one is also really good, and it's still on sale over on greenmangaming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 22:24:07 2016 No.3105608 >>3105598 Oh, i played gaiden on mame today and i liked that one... I'll give the others a try as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 22:32:48 2016 No.3105620 >>3105034 no u

Anonymous Thu Mar 31 23:34:50 2016 No.3105780
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>>3102206
>>3099126
>>3099710

So... are there no other games like this? Just Defender and the Fantasy Zones? How sad, there's something really special about them to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 31 23:42:06 2016 No.3105806 >>3105780 Dropzone

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 02:25:59 2016 No.3106129 >>3105780 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkvy9hUmvW0

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:07:28 2016 No.3106184 File: 70 KB, 608x369, more.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are Cave shmups so terrible?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:10:44 2016 No.3106186 >>3106184 Not retro and No Bully. Play Dangun Feveron.

Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:17:47 2016 No.3106201

>>3106184
>otaku-pandering faggotry
>shitty level designs (or lack thereof)
>bad scoring systems, especially the Donpatches
>patterns that are either slowdown+static, or fast+aimed
>their non-Namiki-composed shmups have mediocre to poor music
>boss designs are giant, unpractical, ugly, dumb spaceship blobs

did I forget anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:26:53 2016 No.3106215 >>3106201 What's wrong with dangun? It has nothing of those.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:30:29 2016 No.3106217 >>3106215 it's basically toaplan on steroids if you aren't a fan of toaplan it's not that great tbf

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:34:37 2016 No.3106219 >>3106217 I actually dislike toaplan immensely, it's like their levels never fucking end. Except out zone and fix eight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:45:18 2016 No.3106231 >>3106219 the only compile-tier pacing i remember from a toaplan shmup was truxton 2

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 03:46:10 2016 No.3106232 >>3106231 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 04:28:51 2016 No.3106301 >>3104998 Word

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 04:32:02 2016 No.3106304 >>3106301 Stop trying to rile up shit you fucking nigger.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 1 04:33:41 2016 No.3106306 >>3106304 No

Anonymous Fri Apr 1 04:53:37 2016 No.3106326
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Why don't more people talk about pic related? It's Cave's most Toaplan-esque shmup right next to Dangun Feveron.

Best narrator, best music, best graphics from before Cave moved to pre-rendered bs.

>>	Suzanne Caldwell Fri Apr 1 16:30:16 2016 No.3107424 >>3106326 Because verts were a mistake.

>>	Joe Chandler Fri Apr 1 16:32:11 2016 No.3107428 >>3106326 Filthy, dumb, danmaku scum.

>>	Alejandro Ibarra Fri Apr 1 17:43:49 2016 No.3107606 File: 110 KB, 1000x748, fatty.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could not ignore his girth.

>>	Marissa Barber Fri Apr 1 19:26:02 2016 No.3107772 >>3106301 Bullshit

>>	Karl Arnold Fri Apr 1 20:33:23 2016 No.3107891 File: 519 KB, 960x720, 5b7467e9ea0b255f705f8b19be356a20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3107772 The winner has spoken!

>>	Henry Ramirez Fri Apr 1 20:35:40 2016 No.3107897 >>3107772 >>3107891 kek One of the better names I've seen today. Shame nothing can be done with the Ibara right above the Marissa.

>>	Glenda Powell Fri Apr 1 20:51:59 2016 No.3107919 File: 176 KB, 318x556, alejandro ibara.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3107897

>>	Paula Moreno Sat Apr 2 02:34:17 2016 No.3108390 >>3107919 Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 06:42:56 2016 No.3108687 >>3107897 Wait what the hell? i didnt put a name.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 06:44:09 2016 No.3108689 >>3107891 Ok i mean if it helps my arguement but i didnt put a name...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 06:57:29 2016 No.3108713 >>3108687 >>3108689 April fools!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 07:34:26 2016 No.3108742 >>3106217 >it's basically toaplan on steroids No it isn't, it's more raiden than toaplan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 07:43:36 2016 No.3108753 >>3108742 ...Do you not realize that Raiden's pretty much a Toaplan tribute? Listen to the Stage 2 theme from Flying Shark and then listen to the Stage 2 theme from Raiden.

Anonymous Sat Apr 2 07:48:22 2016 No.3108758

>>3102206
Depends what you mean by free roaming since you can have a top down free roam like some of Thunder Force II stages, Herzog Zwei, or Sinistar.

There is also Resogun which is pretty much Defender with more options at your disposal like boost ramming, screen clearing laser beams, and power ups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 08:04:22 2016 No.3108791 >>3108713 Oh, ok. I see

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 09:36:46 2016 No.3108981 >>3106326 I just played it on MAME, it's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 10:02:37 2016 No.3109051 >>3106326 US version is one of my favorites, the bomb system is completely botched in favor of the player that game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 11:51:38 2016 No.3109215 I'm glad these threads are on /vr/, I really didn't like going to /vg/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 13:10:03 2016 No.3109397 I always thought a rythm shmup combo would be interesting, like the enemies and hazards all behave in time with the background music.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 15:04:53 2016 No.3109665 >>3109397 Symphony exists, but it's not quite as exciting as I feel it could be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 15:09:48 2016 No.3109682 >>3109397 Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uIdWu1CzJ0

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 2 22:46:28 2016 No.3110926 File: 216 KB, 470x351, wat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I ask for source here? Reverse search did nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 3 09:29:17 2016 No.3112114 >>3109682 Not really, I just kinda meant something like gradius except the enemies move and fire in time with the music. I just thought itd be cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 3 18:54:49 2016 No.3113116 File: 67 KB, 450x605, gunbird-score.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got my first 1-ALL in a Psikyo shmup. How'd I do, /stg/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 03:54:27 2016 No.3114162 >>3113116 Good now go for a 2-all as thats when psikyo gets really fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 03:55:29 2016 No.3114165 >>3108753 >...Do you not realize that Raiden's pretty much a Toaplan tribute? Fair point i forget about that desu, now i look a right nob.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 13:31:02 2016 No.3114892 >>3103442 >>3102652 Game Tengoku is pretty fun. I wanna watch that OVA, too bad it was never translated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 13:52:58 2016 No.3114931 What's your favorite final stage theme, /stg/? Mine's this: https://youtu.be/CoQZMLAWaWo?t=565 Gives me a "you're almost there!" vibe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 15:51:47 2016 No.3115150 >>3114931 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kjD1AYEpV0 Chillest final stage theme of all time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 16:43:10 2016 No.3115249 >>3089725 Talk about Chekov's Spaceship, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 16:45:43 2016 No.3115252 >>3090785 Does Gradius have giant sperm and fannies flying around? With foetuses and everything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 16:46:36 2016 No.3115258 >>3114931 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7OyPCYSfLg the tension is fucking real here

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 18:09:12 2016 No.3115401 >>3114931 >What's your favorite final stage theme, /stg/? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KoapSL3lIE

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 4 18:33:57 2016 No.3115428 >>3115150 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_vq5KOjgdw Gotta love shmups with comfy music.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 09:56:44 2016 No.3116960 >>3115150 Comfy as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 10:09:22 2016 No.3116973 >>3106219 Sounds like you've only played Truxton 1-2. Play some Flying Shark and Fire Shark, those are very short and intense as fuck. Grind Stormer's a decent length too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 18:31:46 2016 No.3117936 >>3090760 R-Type > Gradius R-Type II = Gradius II Gradius III > R-Type III Gradius Gaiden > R-Type Leo R-Type Delta > Gradius IV Gradius V >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a fucking joke? >>>>>>>>>>>>> R-Type Shitnal

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 18:55:12 2016 No.3117985 File: 440 KB, 1024x2028, r-type_final.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3117936 >Gradius V >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a fucking joke? >>>>>>>>>>>>> R-Type Shitnal But does Gradius V have over 100+ selectable ships to choose from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 20:25:55 2016 No.3118165 >>3117936 Got your ass beaten by R-Typer difficulty huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 20:27:07 2016 No.3118171 >>3117985 Honstly, Final would be fucking great. Only reason I dislike playing it is because it has horrible slowdown when I emulate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 20:40:07 2016 No.3118204 >>3117985 >having to go through the same boring stages and slowdown to unlock a ship

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 21:37:07 2016 No.3118316 >>3104660 What is the Raiden franchise? Also Raiden vs Gradius vs R-Type

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 21:50:02 2016 No.3118338 >>3117936 >lumping Treasure's mistake in with the other Gradius titles Son...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 21:53:36 2016 No.3118348 touhou is harder

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 21:55:06 2016 No.3118353 >>3118204 >not autistically unlocking them all Do you even STG?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 22:11:52 2016 No.3118398 >>3118316 Gradius for consistency. Raiden is probably second though R-type has higher highs. Also, I imagine Raiden is Mountain Dew

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 22:14:03 2016 No.3118406 >>3099126 Strikeforce

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 22:16:32 2016 No.3118412 >>3105034 2hus should be ramune or cucumber pepsi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 22:47:08 2016 No.3118517 >>3099126 Mr. Heli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSoBXXfpSbU

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 23:09:28 2016 No.3118568 >>3118338 >hating the last good shmup ever made

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 5 23:13:42 2016 No.3118576 File: 217 KB, 646x800, OtomediusX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3118568 What are you talking about? Shmups are still good!

Anonymous Tue Apr 5 23:52:03 2016 No.3118654
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>>3118568
>>3118576
>Having your heads too far up your asses to acknowledge the glorious revivals of Darius and Raiden

Have fun being bored and miserable I guess...!

Both series were always the superior STG series to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:02:42 2016 No.3120739 /shmupg/ anon here, don't die yet guys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:04:44 2016 No.3120749 >>3118654 We're past 3 years into this generation and Raiden 5 for Xbox One still hasn't had one single hint of news.

>>	\|\|D.\|\|.\|\|\/\|\|.\|\|D Wed Apr 6 21:12:32 2016 No.3120764 >>3097230 They have to make them that hard so they don't get 2ALLed on the first day

Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:26:48 2016 No.3120797
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Kind of a shame Wings of Wor never got any real sequels and the team just went on to make the gayest shmups of all time.

It wouldn't even have been hard to come up with a story.
Imagine Wings of Michael, Wings of Uriel, Wings of Gabriel, etc. It could even take place in the same time period; different angels assigned to different demon infested parts of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:28:27 2016 No.3120801 >>3120797 Cho Aniki is better, you know it to be true, embrace your inner fabulous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:29:55 2016 No.3120806 >>3120801 Hey, I'm not saying Cho Aniki isn't great, but I miss the straightforwad good vs insurmountable evil atmosphere of Wings of Wor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:31:08 2016 No.3120807 >>3120806 Aren't shmup fans the least ones to care about graphics? You were the ones complaining 2hu games are too gay. Enjoy some macho men instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:34:03 2016 No.3120816 >>3120807 I only just came in, anon. There's more than one SHMUP fan. And graphics wise, boss design is a must, and there's nothing like a good Gynoug boss.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:35:11 2016 No.3120818 >>3120816 Think of those delicious dicks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:37:19 2016 No.3120824 >>3120797 >Gynoug II: Wings of the Seven >seven selectable characters based on the Archangels I would help crowdfund this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:38:57 2016 No.3120826 File: 10 KB, 256x179, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120818 Wings of Wor is no stranger to dicks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:41:37 2016 No.3120829 File: 75 KB, 600x440, gynoug-05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120826 Hell yeah also filters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 6 21:43:01 2016 No.3120832 >>3120829 >also filters I just snagged it off google.

Anonymous Wed Apr 6 22:53:30 2016 No.3120972

>>3120824

I can see it.

>Jegudiel

>weapon: three pronged whip that fires in a spread and does extra damage when within whip range

>special: Heaven's Reward - throws crown in the air, molten gold and sharp jewels rain down on enemies

>Gabriel

>weapon: horn that fires homing notes

>special: Left Hand of God - summons an enormous hand that destroys everything it touches

>Selaphiel

>weapon: thurible that fires arc shaped projectiles that go through enemies

>special: Penitence - thurible fires an enormous beam that follows the player's movements

>Michael

>weapon: very powerful flaming sword; only fires projectiles when upgraded

>special: Armies of Heaven - several lesser angels charge in, killing enemies

>Azrael

>weapon: erratically aimed sickles

>special: Third Heaven - Azrael throws off his cloak, revealing a horrifying mass of eyes and tongues, topped with enormous and intricate wings, before filling the screen with destructive light

>Raphael

>weapon: fish projectiles

>special: Cauterization - summons fire and fish from below the map

>Barachiel

>weapon: a white rose that fires electrified petals

>special: Divine Lightning - summons an electrical storm

Anonymous Thu Apr 7 06:27:35 2016 No.3121601
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>>3120972
>>Azrael
>>weapon: erratically aimed sickles
>>special: Third Heaven - Azrael throws off his cloak, revealing a horrifying mass of eyes and tongues, topped with enormous and intricate wings, before filling the screen with destructive light

He'd make a based boss, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 23:54:34 2016 No.3123202 >>3118654 I enjoy the fuck out of Raiden IV

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 00:32:52 2016 No.3123257 >>3118654 >rehash of an outsourced PSP shmup >Xbone exclusive >glorious revival Uh...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 00:40:58 2016 No.3123270 >>3123257 >Xbone exclusive >Image is of Raiden IV Uh...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 00:44:26 2016 No.3123278 >>3123270 Raiden 4 isn't a revival, it's almost 10 years old now. Raiden 5 is the current revival, but it's locked to a shitty console.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 00:48:06 2016 No.3123293 >>3123278 >Raiden IV Overkill is 10 years old How's life in 2025? /v/ still terrible?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 00:52:24 2016 No.3123306 >>3123257 Which was the outsourced PSP shmup?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 01:01:05 2016 No.3123321 >>3123293 >happy about a bad port of a decade old game You Steamfags crack me up. >>3123306 Dariusburst

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 01:28:10 2016 No.3123365 >>3123321 I don't know if you've noticed, but the only shmups getting released anymore are bad games and ports of ancient games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 03:57:54 2016 No.3123659 What's the opinion on Gradius IV?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 04:00:43 2016 No.3123667 >>3123365 Not him but I'd be fine with a truck load of Xbox 360 to Steam shmup ports.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 09:20:33 2016 No.3124000 Do people prefer DoDonpachi to Donpachi?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 15:01:44 2016 No.3124560 >>3124000 Don't most people prefer Dangun Feveron to the Donpatch series?

Anonymous Fri Apr 8 16:12:25 2016 No.3124694

>>3123659
It's one the most refined of the original formulae and honestly a great game. It was just to difficult for most people although it really isn't when you actually learn some strats so yeah it's top tier with gaiden for me but a bit meh for most ppl unfortunately.

>>3124000
Umm depends on your tastes. If you're more into the danmaku style then dodonpachi is your game but if you're more into Raiden/Toaplan style then definitely Donpachi.

Personally I prefer Donpachi.

>>3124560
errr what? I've heard equal praise for all of them desu but DDP really is caves flagship title and the father of modern danmaku.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 18:29:40 2016 No.3124990 >>3124000 I do, mostly because I prefer the stage layouts and music far more than in DonPachi. >>3124560 I don't know about that. I do, but it seems more people prefer DDP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 22:03:44 2016 No.3125456 >>3123365 >Strikers 1999 updates on the phone >first change I notice is a banner advertising their gunbird 2 "port" IAP out of the ass, but at least more people will get exposed to it. I guess ;_;.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 23:03:16 2016 No.3125584 >>3125456 How about an arcade perfect port of Gunbird for Steam, so we can flush that thing known as "Mobile Light Force"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:02:32 2016 No.3127505 >>3124000 Normal people prefer shit over both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:20:02 2016 No.3127551 >>3127505 >muh CAVE hateboner Back to >>>/vg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:22:31 2016 No.3127557 >>3127551 >Back to >>>/vg/ But /vg/ is 95% about Cave, silly

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:26:25 2016 No.3127565 >>3124000 Donpachi is more traditional Toaplan as you can get. Dodon got overshadowed by DaiOuJou, but it's still a fine game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:27:58 2016 No.3127568 >>3125584 >port More like emulation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:30:01 2016 No.3127570 >>3124000 >>3124560 >do people x Stop acting like /vr/ is a hivemind, the only shitheads hating on DDP are the same two or three trolls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:32:30 2016 No.3127572 >>3127557 Except for the one autist that has nothing better to do than complain about Cave being waifushit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:37:56 2016 No.3127581 File: 43 KB, 500x325, enemy_boss_pafe2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3127572 The girls don't even do anything, gee.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:46:12 2016 No.3127591 >>3127572 No, rather except the touhou enthusiasts

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:48:54 2016 No.3127594 >>3127570 >if you don't like what I like it's shitposting Grow up retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:50:52 2016 No.3127603 >>3127594 It's very much shitposting, look at this shit >>3106184

Anonymous Sat Apr 9 20:54:28 2016 No.3127612

>>3127603
There is nothing shitpost about this. He was asking why are Cave shmups terrible. That's a legit question.

If someone asks "why are Cave shmups awesome", and attached a smug cave loli to it, you also wouldn't call it shitposting.

Just because someone has a different taste than you, doesn't make it shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:05:00 2016 No.3127638 >>3127612 He was stirring intellectual discussion, I see. Really.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:08:36 2016 No.3127642 >>3127638 >why is x good/bad That's a completely normal question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:11:34 2016 No.3127646 Cave is not retro so stop discussing them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:18:02 2016 No.3127658 played ibara for the first time earlier, pretty cool shmup. why won't cave put it on steam?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:23:44 2016 No.3127673 >>3127658 Yagawa games not named Battle Garegga simply don't sell. Also not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:28:26 2016 No.3127691 What are you guys favorite Cave games? Mine are Dangun, Daioujou, and Deathsmiles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 21:33:17 2016 No.3127702 >>3127691 Jamestown

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:12:42 2016 No.3127785 Just blind 1cc'd Shienryu Explosion. Damn, that game was really easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:17:44 2016 No.3127794 >>3127691 Stop trying to bait people into a CAVE sucks argument. God I fucking hate you people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:39:48 2016 No.3127829 >>3127794 People are gonna shit on CAVE regardless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:43:24 2016 No.3127835 >>3127829 But they shouldn't because only four of their games are allowed by the rules, esp rade, dangun feveron, donpachi and dodonpachi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:45:56 2016 No.3127840 >>3127835 PGM should be fine desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:46:02 2016 No.3127842 >>3127835 And Ketsui, DDP DOJ and Espgaluda, because they're on pre-1999 hardware.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:47:46 2016 No.3127847 >>3127840 >>3127842 BULLSHIT THIS IS BULLSHIT FUCK OFF

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:52:30 2016 No.3127858 >>3127847 Why? We can talk about 2016 games that are made on Genesis and Commodore 64 hardware here. Why not with PGM games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 9 22:55:30 2016 No.3127864 File: 593 KB, 624x640, cave-tan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cave is love Cave is life

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 13:08:46 2016 No.3129162 >>3127646 >games that came out from 1999 and earlier are not retro, so sayeth I someone with absolutely no power or idea of what this board is about

Anonymous Sun Apr 10 15:53:08 2016 No.3129495

>>3127658
>why won't cave put it on steam?
It's a players game and unfortunately only like 1% of steam users actually play so it'l sell poorly and get lots of shit reviews from people who don't even understand the basics.

>>3127691
>What are you guys favorite Cave games?
Ketsui is absolutely god tier after that esprade,futari,ibara are all great. I'd like some proper time with a ported MMP and pink sweets before id raw proper conclusions on those. Donpachi is one i want to love so much but holy shit the first 3/4 stages are such a fucking yawn fest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 15:54:10 2016 No.3129503 >>3127847 >BULLSHIT THIS IS BULLSHIT FUCK OFF bruv your queef is so dense i can roll that shit in a rizzla n ting, put your tampax back on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 17:12:29 2016 No.3129712 Just bomb my shit up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 17:33:40 2016 No.3129756 Ikaruga was a terrible fucking "game" that tried to innovate in a genre that doesn't need innovation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 17:35:40 2016 No.3129760 File: 264 KB, 653x900, faintear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post your shmup waifu/husbando before someone else claims her/him

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 17:36:04 2016 No.3129761 >>3129760 Kill yourself weeb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 17:52:22 2016 No.3129791 File: 19 KB, 224x320, aine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3129760 im gay

Anonymous Sun Apr 10 18:06:21 2016 No.3129820
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Top 10 Dreamcast shmups of all time:

10. Under Defeat
9. Ikaruga
8. Triggerheart Exelica
7. Shikigami no Shiro 2
6. Psyvariar 2
5. Giga Wing 2
4. Border Down
3. Trizeal
2. Karous
1. Radilgy

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 18:25:14 2016 No.3129861 >>3129791 >"im gay" and? he said husbando for a reason. >>3129760 I'm claiming opa-opa, just because I can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 19:42:40 2016 No.3130034 File: 259 KB, 1714x800, KAMUI_top.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3129760 Claiming Kamui.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 10 21:06:03 2016 No.3130183 >>3129861 Enjoy your bipolar husbando, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 17:04:46 2016 No.3132109 So what's the cheapest, most bullshit shmup out there?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 18:34:36 2016 No.3132276 >>3130183 I will, its worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 18:36:02 2016 No.3132280 >>3132109 touhou.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 18:57:06 2016 No.3132306 >>3132109 yagawa shmups >>3132280 le touhou is hard meme xD

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 19:20:50 2016 No.3132324 >>3132109 Anything by Psikyo

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 19:37:15 2016 No.3132357 just downloaded gradius 3 and 4,please be good

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 19:45:44 2016 No.3132380 >>3132109 Psikyo for me, even first loops are kinda scary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 20:50:36 2016 No.3132493 >>3090526 Stop trying to trick someone into buying your over inflated garbage off ebay you underaged fuck. Get a real job asshole and stop mooching off your hot aunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 21:38:34 2016 No.3132595 File: 9 KB, 200x200, spanky-aka-whity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do any of you do co-op runs on Fightcade?The lobbies are always empty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 21:41:27 2016 No.3132605 >>3092832 Because they're filled to the brim with artificial difficulty meant to sap quarters away like the environmental hazards changing all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 21:41:54 2016 No.3132606 >can't get past stage 3 of Ibara help there's too much shit on the screen

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 22:50:09 2016 No.3132765 Who /TwinkleStarSprites/ here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 23:00:06 2016 No.3132786 >>3132595 I would like to but i'm good in few shoot 'em ups. Good thing the next fightcade update will include toaplan and taito games so i could play some darius.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 11 23:07:45 2016 No.3132804 >>3132765 Is the PS2 remake any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 12 02:53:20 2016 No.3133159 >>3132606 >>can't get past stage 3 of Ibara >help >there's too much shit on the screen You need to be quite aggressive with the trains and try to save at least 2 hadous for the boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 12 02:55:04 2016 No.3133160 >>3132324 >>3132380 There's nothing bullshit about psikyo though it just demands you learn it's method quite strictly. Strikers 45 2nd loop is the only one i'd say does have some trolling.

Anonymous Tue Apr 12 04:04:21 2016 No.3133232

>>3132595
I always look if someone is there but yea, they are always empty.
Once I played Last Resort with some Brazilian but he had no idea what he was doing.
An other time a Japanese invited me while playing Pulstar, but I was too late with responding. Would have been too laggy anyway probably.

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