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3059102 No.3059102 [Reply] [Original]

is this good or is this not good

>> No.3059106

No. It tries way too hard to be edgy. It's like a 14-year-old gothbaby's version of Zelda.

>> No.3059109

THE HEART OF DARKNESS
UAAAH
Huhahaha
VAE VICTUS

>> No.3059116
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>>3059109
>VAE VICTUS

>VAE VICTUS
>VAE VICTUS

>VAE VICTUS
>VAE VICTUS
>VAE VICTUS

>VAE VICTUS
>VAE VICTUS
>VAE VICTUS

>> No.3059126

>>3059102
>is this good or is this not good

I think >>3059106 sums it up, but an honorable mention should go to the game's incredibly shitty writing.

>> No.3059132

>>3059126
What shitty writing? It's better than most vampire games. Only Castlevania has a better vampire story.

>> No.3059142

>>3059132
The story is good. The writing is not.

I think the Soul Reaver series was better, but I haven't gone back to those games in years.

>> No.3059148

>>3059142
What writing? The item descriptions?
Everything is told from Kains, then limited, perspective and the writing is pretty good in that regard.

>> No.3059168

>>3059148
>"Vae Victis - suffering to the conquered. Ironic that now I was the one suffering. Not anything as pedestrian as physical pain.Rather the cruel jab of impotent anger - the hunger for revenge. I didn’t care if I was in Heaven or Hell - all I wanted was to kill my assassins. Sometimes you get what you wish for."
Purple prose, hammed up with over-the-top voice acting. Like I said, I really do like the underlying story, but it's so overwritten and melodramatic, even for a goth game.

>> No.3059183

>>3059168
And Kain stayed like that during the whole series. It's just Kain, and later Raziel who are like that. Everyone else is normal~ish.

>> No.3059204

>>3059102
It's still a decent enough action RPG but the gameplay is a bit clunky.

>> No.3059208
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>>3059102


Listen to >>3059142, OP. The Soul Reaver series is way better (in terms of both story and game play). You're better of playing the whole series up to Defiance and neither of the Omen games.

Also the fucking slurping sound drives me of the wall.

>> No.3059210

>>3059102
It's ok, but has very bad pacing and dungeons.

>> No.3059215

>>3059102
I remember it as a very good game, but with way too much loading screens. Havent played in ages tho.

>> No.3059227

>>3059208
*off

>> No.3059261

>>3059102
All the games has great story, especially voice acting, and is essentially why you play the later installments. It is however important to play them in the correct order and you should ignore anyone that says Soul Reaver is better and that you should ignore Blood Omen.

Order:
Bloom Omen 1
Soul Reaver 1
Soul Reaver 2
Blood Omen 2
Defiance

Blood Omen 2 is the weakest entry but tells you the consequences of Soul Reaver 2. Blood Omen 1 and Soul Reaver 1 has the best gameplay.

>>3059215
>way too much loading screens
The PC version doesn't have that problem.

>> No.3059391

>>3059261
listen to this guy op, Blood Omen 1 can be a bit of a drag at times but you won't regret it if you play the later games. Can always cheat to get through the game too if you just want to see the story.

>> No.3059423

Definitely play it if you're going to play Soul Reaver. I think it's pretty fun, and if you like ridiculous over-the-top camp you'll find the writing both awesome and comical.

>> No.3059442
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>>3059126
>>3059168
>not understanding that the hammed up pretentious dialogue was half the fun of the game

>> No.3059447

>>3059106
Tries too hard to be edgy? Jesus you're a fucking moron. This edgy meme needs to die.

>> No.3059487

>>3059168
>it's so overwritten and melodramatic, even for a goth game
Nah, it's bang on for a goth game.

>> No.3059601
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>>3059126
>legacy of kain
>shitty writing
now i've seen the absolute worst

>> No.3060058
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>>3059126
It wasn't shitty in any sense, but it's more of a slog than any of the other games in the LoK series.
>>3059102
Listen to >>3059261, OP. The game is pretty slow, but if you go through the games in the canonical order, the story gets really good.

>>3059116
That and the slurping sound when you feed on your enemies made me pissed the fuck out of me. Also
>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
Literally in majority of the dungeons. Why could they just scream like the women in chains do?

>> No.3060061

>>3060058
*made me fucking pissed

>> No.3060257

>>3059442
My keyboard was dead, its innards coated with the hot, bitter aftermath of the Ceylon Orange Pekoe that had erupted from my unguarded nose.

I should have prepared myself better for the torrential humour of this den of villainy, this Four Chan. I thought all the laughter had died within in me ages ago.

As I stared down at the wet ruin of my input device, I considered the chain of events that led to this travesty. It was a sorrowful afternoon, but as is the burden of all free men, I knew I had only myself to blame.

>> No.3060294

>>3060257

A+!

>> No.3060313
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3060313

>/vr/
>criticizing cheesy voice acting
U R NOT (red)E

>> No.3060515

>>3059102
It's good for the first few hours but the game just goes on and on and on and on.

>> No.3060579

>>3060515
Until it ends

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>>3060257
VAE VICTUS! *slurp*

>> No.3060954
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>VAE VICTIS
>Please help me kind sir
>those fucking slurps

Well I am in full on nostalgia mode now.
I recall enjoying elements of this game, like the atmospheric creepy sounds/bg music, I seem to remember I liked being able to turn into a wolf. Shit I can even hear that teleport sound effect now too. Its wierd how vivid this game is in my mind, wasnt even close to being a favorite.

>> No.3061016

It's ok. I got super stoked on it for like a week and then put it down and never got back into it again. Similar to Final Fantasy Origins, it is difficult to pick back up on a saved game file if you step away from it for too long.

>> No.3061067

I fucking love it. Some of the criticisms in this thread are valid, but the game is such a blast to explore despite some of its issues. Anyone that sincerely thinks Soul Reaver has better gameplay can fuck right off. It's by far the best Legacy of Kain game if you ask me (though I think the first Soul Reaver is a good time on the whole).

The combat is a bit on the clunky side, but thanks to the feeding mechanic, all the spells and subweapons at your disposal, and VAE VICTIS it manages to be satisfying anyway.

The writing is heavy-handed and bloated but that's largely the appeal of it. It's melodramatic, but it's a grandiose adventure starring a vampire. It's exactly what it needs to be. It avoids the pretensions of Amy Hennig's tenure with the series for the most part, marrying its gothic aesthetics with a simple revenge story.

The dungeons themselves lend themselves better to replays than many games of its kind given that the game emphasizes avoiding traps and fighting enemies over outright puzzle solving. The puzzles are light and generally unobstrusive.

The replies in this thread are pretty shit so I hope this post is a little more fleshed out for you, OP. Definitely worth a try if you're into Zelda-style games.

>> No.3061380
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I absolutely loved how hammy and overdone this game's tone is.

It's got so many gloriously evil characters, all with arrogant declamations and pompous trashtalking.

I particularly like the many well-executed stereotypes - the alpha wolf vampire Vorador, the animated-armour warrior Malek, the scheming Time-Streamer, the Necromancer, the other insane Guardians of the Circle. It's so satisfyingly exaggerated, whether it's the four-armed demons, the whoosh noise and lighting change when you use flame sword, or, er just almost everything in the game.

You get a lovely oldschool feeling when you find a secret area or use a new spell. Wolf Form, Mist Form, Bat Form and several other classic vampiric abilities such as Dominate Mind dare necessary to get through the game, and you can get hold of some really fun spells like Mass Hatred and Lightning Storm.

Flame Sword, Chaos Armour and Invulnerability spell are an OP combo, it would be a much more challenging game without those.

>> No.3061517

Music was pretty good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvVlZU3UW7I&list=PL3B36792A6F9E15D4&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjEGTapQ9b8&list=PL3B36792A6F9E15D4&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR-DKX6hFv8&list=PL3B36792A6F9E15D4&index=10

>> No.3061709

>>3061067

Bravo! I forgot about how over the top the narration is. The main vampire character is totally full of himself, dos it's pretty unique and pretty hilarious.

Anybody else notice how when there is too much stuff going on on screen, the game lags a little so you have more time to think about how not to take damage?

>> No.3063668

>>3061517
Yeah, but it was not nearly as good as Soul Reaver's Music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RMWWBXYbs

>> No.3063749

>>3063668
Both are pretty good.

I think I liked Blood Omen's music more overall. Both are really fitting for their respective games though.

>> No.3066340

THE HEART OF DARKNESS

>> No.3066506

>>3060058
>That and the slurping sound when you feed on your enemies made me pissed the fuck out of me. Also
>>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>>>PLEASE HELP ME KIND SIR
>Literally in majority of the dungeons. Why could they just scream like the women in chains do?

...fuck you...literally backwards.

>> No.3066730

>>3059261
>Blood Omen 2 is the weakest entry
I really wonder as Defiance was an absolutely tedious and unfun chore to go through past Kain's opening level.

>> No.3066810

>>3059106
>i'm so mature, i plays only games suited for 5 year olds

>> No.3066994

Only played this on emulator. My main impressions were wooden/stiff control (especially when turning) and muddy graphics that make it hard to see anything clearly. The anon that posted endless Vae Victus isn't kidding. It gets old within about 5 mins.

>> No.3067015

>>3059102
>Blood Omen
Masterpiece, will forever be remembered as one of the best story telling games ever made.

>Soulreaver
Mediocre, blatantly unfinished was rehashed into a LoK game from another game, story was basic and lackluster but not bad, had a decent amount of exploration. gained enough popularity to get a sequel.

>Soulreaver 2
Horrible game, shit story, linear gameplay, even more unfinished than the first game.

>Blood Omen 2
Another rehashed game, contrived plot barely fits into any of the other games plot, complete mess of a game both story and mechanically.

>Defiance
Desperate attempt to fix loose ends and plot holes, fails horribly. abysmal game was the final nail in the coffin that killed the series.

>> No.3067045

>>3067015
Isn't it weird how many times there's an awesome first game followed by a ton of sequels that don't hold up?

>> No.3067064

>>3067015
I agree with this for the most part. I don't think Blood Omen is necessarily the best for its storytelling (although it does very well in that regard thanks to Kain's monologue), though. I'm not sure if that's what you're implying, but I really think BO is the best and most interesting game in nearly every way. It's the most fleshed out mechanically and it's a lot more satisfying and interesting to explore.

I think the first Soul Reaver is pretty good, but I can see how you'd feel that way about it. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest.

>> No.3067723

>>3066730
I meant from a story perspective.

If I had to rate them from a gameplay perspective it would probably be something like:

>Good
Blood Omen 1
Soul Reaver 1

>Ok
Blood Omen 2

>Only play it because of the story
Soul Reaver 2
Defiance

>> No.3068039

>>3067723
>>Blood Omen 2: Okay
>> Only play Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance for the story.
Literally What?

>> No.3070753

>>3068039
I initially had that reaction, but after thinking about it, BO2 is actually more interesting and fun from a mechanical perspective; it just takes the story in a retarded direction. Don't get me wrong; I've never liked Blood Omen 2 as a whole game, but it actually has more going for it mechanically. Defiance had more fighting moves, but BO2 had all those spells and abilities.

Soul Reaver 2 was pretty middle-of-the-road mechanically but a good continuation of the story, and Defiance was mechanically a decent Devil May Cry type game but a horrible attempt to reconcile Blood Omen 2's weird retcons.

>> No.3070827

>>3067723
>Soul Reaver 1
>good

>> No.3072341

>>3070827
It has its moments. I don't like it nearly as much as BO but it's a solid game, though the bosses are all shit.

>> No.3073691
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>>3072341
Especially the final boss :^)

>> No.3074245

>>3059208
>Shitty graphics
>Shitty controls
>Shitty annoying puzzles
>Shitty protagonist
>Shitty enemies

>> No.3074271

>>3074245
>Shitty tastes
>Shitty opinions

>> No.3074278

>>3074271
>enjoying block puzzles

>> No.3074284

>>3074278
>not enjoying block puzzles

>> No.3074395

>>3059168

>There are people out there who are so painfully young they don't even understand the sheer melodrama of goth

Granted it might not be to everyone's taste but the writing/voice acting in this game is great. It wants you to play it while drinking red wine and wearing a trenchcoat and knee high boots.

Soul Reaver is much less hammy in this regard (and has arguably some of the best VA in gaming), but you are so goddamn pleb tier if you can't into Hammer Horror style gothic ham.

>> No.3074490

>>3074395
>Soul Reaver is much less hammy in this regard
It is, but I think it suffers for it. It's one thing to be somewhat shlocky but self-aware, it's another thing to still be shlocky but operating under the false pretense of being something intelligent.

I still like the story of the first Soul Reaver, though. The real problems with the story didn't start rearing their head until Soul Reaver 2.

>> No.3074667
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>>3059208
>neither of the Blood Omen games