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[Anonymous No.3044742]

> No superlatives
> No things for sale
> No e-celebs
> No filter debates
> No display debates
> No trivial posts without adding other content

Everything else is fair game.

[Anonymous No.3044770]

That only leaves one thing
I want what you want geek boi

[Anonymous No.3044792]

>>3044742
Video games from now then are related but clearly different. This board is indirect evidence of that. You see hyperbole like "games have died" get tossed around, and while this isn't true, modern games' resemblance to their forerunners is often skin deep in regards to why older generations valued the originals. (see the Conker thread for an example)

Discuss.

I think the largest driving factor for the direction of gaming in the past 15 years has been the Internet for direct and indirect reasons. Because of the Internet, a wider audience can be reached, and thus game design has been redefined to conform to that; simply put, it's the best business strategy to appeal to as many players as possible. Furthermore the business model has changed from standalone releases to periodic updates and nickel-and-dime DLC. Lastly the inability for copyright and patent law to keep up with the Internet age results in stale IP. The result is the simplifications and homogenization of major games, reboots upon sequels, and flattering the player in engineered ways to keep them playing for as long as possible for Samus know's what ever reason.

[Anonymous No.3044883]

>>3044742

Is retro boipussy welcome?

[Anonymous No.3044896]

>>3044742
>superlatives
had to look this word up

[Anonymous No.3044903]

>>3044883
Maybe if you posted an image from FF9 instead of Dissidia.

[Anonymous No.3044971]

>>3044742

what about bloviating? can we bloviate?

[Anonymous No.3044973]

>>3044792
Fair enough. I agree, gaming's on life support at this point. You mention the internet as a factor, and I just want to add, I blame internet shills for advocating and perpetuating the bullshit -- bad games, bloated marketing budgets, the whole DLC business model etc. They're not solely responsible for those things' success obviously but I believe they're a factor

Only thing left to do now is delve into the classics and become experts on one's favorites. It's just a bit disappointing, when I was a kid I never knew these games I was playing at the time would be forever. Oddly funny the way Cranky Kong continues to emerge as a prophetic character for people like /vr/ (in my general opinion).

[Anonymous No.3044980]

>>3044971
keep it cromulent

[Anonymous No.3044991]

>>3044973
>gaming's on life support at this point.

Gaming has never been as big and it just keeps rising. I don't like the direction it's going either, but that's an objectively ludicrous statement.

[Anonymous No.3044996]

>>3044991
Not him.

>but that's an objectively ludicrous statement
I don;t know what market you're looking at but it's objectively a correct statement.

The current model for games is for games to not be games anymore. It's for them to be services. Season passes and the like.

[Anonymous No.3045028]

>>3044742
nice wonder boy III reference friend

[Anonymous No.3045031]

>>3044973
The shills are only filling the unique social engineering niches that the Internet provides to get by. They suck, but the Internet is so new that people still haven't developed adequate skill in differentiating opinions from 'opinions' on the net, so shilling works.

Don't get me wrong though, I think the Internet has done great things for gaming too. Awesome games in the early days of the Internet and LAN connected people in unprecedented ways. But the genie got out of the bottle through the net and found everyone, so to speak.

>>3044991
>Gaming has never been as big
Exactly. Large companies design their games to appeal to the most people possible, not focus on interesting games, precisely because it's more lucrative. What we get is watered down and recycled 'safe' games.

[Anonymous No.3045039]

>>3044996
Again, I'm not going to argue that I like it either. But gaming is showing no signs of dying, it's continuously rising. Kids play, adults play, everyone plays. There's more jobs available in the market than ever, it's overtaken hollywood in terms of money generated. And let's not forget there's kids growing up that want to become game developers, there's at least another generation of game developers coming up in the future. There are no signs of gaming dying at the moment. Even if the consoles died overnight the PC will still continue. If the biggest developer died (probably EA / Activision / Ubisoft) everyone else would still go on, this is not like the 83 video game crash where Atari was most of the home market.

Gaming is turning to shit? Sure. But it's not dying. In the least you argue that it's changing. We're still in the rise right now, the worst you can say is that we'll reach a critical mass and then start the decline, but in the present moment all signs point that it's still expanding.

Let's not turn into the old man that argues that it's dying just because we don't like it. You heard from your dad and uncles talking about the movie industry or what have you back in the day and it's still going.

[Anonymous No.3045043]

>>3045039
>And let's not forget there's kids growing up that want to become game developers, there's at least another generation of game developers coming up in the future.
And the games they develop are sure to be shit because how could they possibly not be, given what games kids today are being raised on?

[Anonymous No.3045048]

>>3045043
They'll be shit, and they'll enjoy it, and they'll pay for it. And we'll be pushed out.

Still, not dying.

[Anonymous No.3045068]

>>3045039
>>3045048
How is a video game as a service still a video game?

[Anonymous No.3045081]

>>3045068
>SEGA
>SErvice GAmes
It was there all along Anon

[Anonymous No.3045086]

>>3045068
Ask every dried up MMORPG ~desu.

[Anonymous No.3045087]

>>3045081
You're taking it out of context anon. Yes arcades were a service. You paid for a virtual credits/continues in a game.

Now the model is release a game completely broke. Oh wait before that have a season pass and the game for $100+, Add in a digital deluxe set for more. Then slowly add shit in the game after release. Probably never fixing it anyway.

[Anonymous No.3045096]

>>3045086
MMOs still have a core game of grinding.

[Anonymous No.3045097]

>>3045087
They're still games, just shit games. Even Kuso games are still considered games. Desert Bus is still considered a game.

I don't like it, you don't like it, doesn't change the definition. Let us pray.

[Anonymous No.3045107]

>>3045097
Then how are modern games not shit?

[Anonymous No.3045109]

I think it's absolute bullshit to pretend that modern games are "just not good at all." If you judged retro games only by their shittiest offerings, you'd think they were bad too.

[Anonymous No.3045110]

>>3045107
But they are
I think we're going in circles here

[Anonymous No.3045113]

>>3045109
The difference is retro's "shittiest offerings" aren't in the top 10 most sold.

Garbage like Halo, CoD, etc.

[Anonymous No.3045117]

>>3045110
My mistake. I thought you were the anon grasping on to the tiniest shred of non rotted meat on the corpse that is modern video games.

[Anonymous No.3045124]

>>3045113

If you care that much about sales, I don't think we're going to see eye to eye.

For what it's worth, actual good games are still popular in Japan. It's not that games aren't good anymore, it's that shit games are popular in the west as a result of mass marketing campaigns.

[Anonymous No.3045125]

The Asscreeds and Cowadooties of today are just the Megamen as Street Fighters of the past. In any case I'd rather have them than indie trash that uses pixel art and nostalgia as a substitute for talent and actually trying hard to make a good game.

[Anonymous No.3045126]

>>3045124
It has nothing to do with sales. The shit games are what define modern games. They are the games people play.

[Anonymous No.3045128]

>>3045117
Well to be perfectly honest I still like some modern games, it's just that it's becoming an ever narrowing window of games that cater to my tastes

[Anonymous No.3045129]

>>3045126

Okay, replace "sales" with "popularity," still doesn't make a difference. If you want to shit on anyone with that in mind, you should shit on modern gamers, not modern games, because again every year plenty of good games come out.

[Anonymous No.3045137]

OP here. I was pointing out that moderns games are trending in ways the I don't like, but I'm not saying anything is garbage. As soon as that gets slung, the thread spirals into a muckraking contest like every other. Try to not go that route.

[Anonymous No.3045143]

>>3045137
But it is shit.

[Anonymous No.3045145]

>>3045125
I'd compare more assasin's creed to super mario than to Street Fighter

Now, Megaman and CoD are a very similar thing
>Yearly releases on a console generation
>After the fourth game, the games had the same plot progression and mechanics
>Both are also linear games (not exactly a bad thing but its also something in common)

[Anonymous No.3045148]

>>3045129
>>3045128
>>3045125
>>3045124
>>3045048
>>3045039
A hundred years from now you know what people are going to think about the turn of the 21st century? What they will see?

They will see what was popular. They will see our media was some retard on a thing called youtube using something called the internet. They called him pewdiepie.

The people a 100 years from now will see that people in the turn of century wasted time playing some odd outdated technology called video games. They'll see the one we all enjoyed was CoD.

This is the shit that's defining us and it's fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.3045157]

>>3045148
How are you Anon, are you okay
Have you called your mother lately
You know she worries

[Anonymous No.3045168]

>>3045157
I'm just saying man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o

[Anonymous No.3045181]

>>3045145
>megaman is linear
wut

[Anonymous No.3045186]

>>3045181
Besides one or two little secrets (i.e. assembling Beat in MM6), the levels are going from point A to point B with a nice variety of obstacles

[Anonymous No.3045193]

>>3045186
Can you not pick level order tho? On a small enough scale every game is linear

[Anonymous No.3045201]

>>3044883
>boipussy
ugh, why is this a thing. i fapped to po-ju like three hours ago so it's not like i'm homophobic but... why

[Anonymous No.3045354]

>>3045148
here i am trying to imagine that ppl did on 1916

best i can is 1930s sinatra was probably anonymously entertaining some small audience and a couple decades later would sing that the Telephone, Radio, and TV were passings fads, only love is here to stay... do you still have a telephone at home, in the sense the song describes? how long ago did you even tune a radio?

videogames are a fleeting fancy, but you can trust love anon, i love you, forever and a day

[Anonymous No.3045363]

>>3044971
We'd have to invite NESfag in to let him self-reply for 5 posts if we do.